The Daily Zeitgeist - OJ SimpsTrend Not Alive: OJ Simpson, Monkey-Related Box Office, Fart Walks, Humane AI, Ripley

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

In this edition of OJ SimpsTrend: Not Alive, Jack and Bryan The Editor discuss, the passing of O.J. Simpson, the box office going… bananas, the 'Fart Walks' TikTok trend, Humane Ai's dumb AI doodad,... and Neflix's new series 'Ripley' splitting opinions on B&W cinematography!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties
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Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:00:56 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of oj sims trend not alive whoops whoops let's uh he's not alive anymore or aka cancer if i did it yeah cancer if i did it another good one good one um my name is jack and that over there is brian the editor hi everybody it's me i'm back um if you if you noticed noticed a little shift, some little energetic difference in the show,
Starting point is 00:02:06 Brian has been moving. He is back. It's wonderful to have you back. How are you doing? Great. It's great to be back. Moving is fun, right? Moving is a fucking nightmare.
Starting point is 00:02:21 What? It could be worse. But yeah, I'm in a new city and uh i'm very much enjoying being back in a city because i was living rurally and uh it got real boring so you're living in one of those spider holes that they uh like the one they dug saddam out of yes i was living in saddam's spider home actually and that you know you get what you paid for there uh obviously you know the the name recognition does help um but no speaking of dearly departed 90s uh icons um we got saddam we got oj uh now has uh fled this mortal coil you don't flee it you shrug it off sloth it off i don't know slough shed slough off this mortal coil oj simpson died on wednesday and we just found out today this morning and uh almost immediately norm mcdonald went viral
Starting point is 00:03:26 uh just a an 11 minute compilation of old weekend update jokes uh that really took me back to a time when it was like brave to be like this guy fucking murdered some people right and it's always like the time to murder yes and the audience was like hey like people just didn't didn't really know how to deal with that um what were the people what were the holdout like i i guess i don't remember that time that well what were the people who were like booing those jokes booing exactly were they like that give them a give them a break it was just a few pedants in the audience who were like look he was like acquitted actually even though highly fucking suspicious still i don't know i mean whatever this was like during the trial this
Starting point is 00:04:19 was like when he was on trial i think a lot a lot Oh, you mean those? Yeah. I mean, look, a lot of Naked Gun fans in the audience, I guess. A lot of Northburg fans. I was one of them. I loved OJ and Naked Gun. And I was like, why is he on trial? It's a great performance. He did really good work in Naked Gun. And I'm not going to let his subsequent murdering of two people change
Starting point is 00:04:46 that fact. Yeah, separate the art from the artists, you know? Thank you. That's the place that I'm fine fuck Woody Allen films, but please don't make me change my opinion of OJ's performances in
Starting point is 00:05:02 Naked Gun and what was the disaster movie that he did? Skyscraper? Was that him? I feel like he did a Tower of Terror or something. Towering Inferno? I don't know. Yeah, I think that's right.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Also, just to make sure you know that your uncles and aunts who you stopped talking to a couple years back are okay a lot there was a the usual chorus of people suspecting that the COVID vaccine was behind his death still how I'm like dude it's
Starting point is 00:05:34 2024 give that shit up yeah on CNN there was one anchor who like gave this anecdote about how like humble he was during his 2008 trial like they were like when he was yelling i'm not black i'm oj yeah like at that time and that's how you knew he was a good guy but it was just like they were just treating it like another celebrity passed away you know
Starting point is 00:06:02 and i remember and he came up to me and was just so humble and so... There's nothing that will humble a person like committing a double homicide, you know? Because it really makes you realize, wow, I can go there, you know what I mean? Nothing more humble than making a whole joke book about how you theoretically might have done the murder that you were acquitted for yeah very humble yeah i did it yeah but there yeah
Starting point is 00:06:34 it was just a it was a weird morning of tributes a lot of like you know football players being like hey one of the greats like not even opening with say what you will about, but just focusing on his on-field achievements. The Pro Football Hall of Fame even issued a lengthy press release that talked about his athletic career, even his second
Starting point is 00:06:58 career in acting and broadcasting. And then I guess they just stopped paying attention at that point hey look Jack you can never take his athletic achievements away from him oh wait they did actually
Starting point is 00:07:12 and that's what made him so mad so cut him a break that Heisman heist which can we get the Heisman heist the Heisman heist the Ocean's 11 Ocean's 32 wasn't that his number anyways um monkey persons having a moment this is just something Ocean's 11? Ocean's 32? Wasn't that his number? Anyways, MonkeyPerson's having a moment. This is just
Starting point is 00:07:28 something that occurred to me too late. On tomorrow's episode, you will hear one of our guests talk about their obsession. You'll never guess who this guest is. Their obsession with a human Z, like a chimpanzee human
Starting point is 00:07:44 documentary. Okay, it's Chris Crofton. We end up spending a lot of time on that. I come through and talk about how there's this new Sasquatch movie coming out, Sasquatch Sunset, Sunrise. I'm surprised it's not Harry and the Hendersons. Yeah, I just found out about that one.
Starting point is 00:08:03 But there's a damn movie coming out this weekend called monkey man um that i totally forgot to mention and also a new planet of the apes movie i think super producer victor was pointing out and kong versus godzilla kong versus godzilla um monkey human hybrids having a moment. As I mentioned on tomorrow's episode, this is nothing new. This goes back to the earliest human art. We are obsessed with
Starting point is 00:08:33 animal-human hybrids. So, yeah. Just wanted to let you know. It is our job as the Zeitgeist to let you know what is having a moment and it is monkey human monkey man's uh so hot right now all right i have a i have a question for you brian if tiktok's so bad uh why did hashtag fart walks just go viral uh you're gonna have to paint
Starting point is 00:08:59 me a word picture on this one jack okay so why did fart walks go viral on tiktok people tend to think of tiktok as an app for young people with no attention spans uh but incorrect as evidenced by a 70 year old cookbook author who just went viral for promoting an idea called fart walks um the self-proclaimed queen of fiber. Fartwalks! It just makes me want to yell it from the mountaintop. Sorry. Yeah. So this person has been documenting her nightly ritual
Starting point is 00:09:36 of going for a walk after eating. I'm pretty sure they didn't invent that. Not just for exercise, but specifically to let out farts. Not just for exercise, but specifically to let out farts. And it does have a little bit of kind of foggy pseudoscience mixed in there because she claims that it also, like, keeping farts in gives you diabetes. Okay, I knew there had to be some sort of weird TikTok bend to this. This is nothing uncommon. You know, it's like taking a walk after you, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:07 meal does feel like that's generally accepted that it does kind of aid digestion. Yeah. It's settling down there, but she, she gave it a snappy name. The snappiest fart walks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:23 She's been doing this for years, but a recent fart walks post went viral has been viewed nearly 10 million times. Um, I'm a fan of fart walks just generally. I've, I know this feeling, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:38 one doctor, uh, did point out that like when you're moving, your GI tract is also moving and that helps things move move about and you know it helps your body expel gas so yeah uh there there is science to it um keeping in farts does not netness like farts are not the cause of diabetes as far as we're pretty sure yeah that's let's throw that away with the, what is it, the humors? Let's just put that away.
Starting point is 00:11:08 The biles. Yeah, the biles, different biles. What helps you avoid the bad vapors and keep you in touch with the good vapors when you go for a fart walk. But yeah, anyways, shout out to TikTok and fart walks. Yes. Yeah. Anyways, shout out to TikTok, uh, and, and fart walks. Uh, please, you can't ban it, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:28 because it is an important medical reason. Never, never. Yeah. What's next? Uh, all right, let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:11:37 We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers,
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Starting point is 00:14:53 We're back. And there is a supposedly exciting piece of technology called the AI pin that is... Its stated purpose is to replace the smartphone with an ai assistant that lives in a device that you keep pinned to your chest like a star trek communicator um instead of a screen the humane ai pin why why is it humane uh we don't know uh project lasers onto your hand um so that you can yes the best the best surface to project an image your hands you're you're well you you know the ups and downs and
Starting point is 00:15:35 topography of your hand like the back of your hand so it's um get get used to reading off of it uh but that the idea is you can do everything a smartphone can, but without your head buried in a screen. All right, so a couple problems. First of all, the biggest, richest company in the world has been working on screenless computing with their Alexa product. The other biggest company in the world has been working on it with
Starting point is 00:16:06 siri um those products are both uh bad but i have kids who are of the age to be in very intrigued and also like they don't get to use screens so like they're anything to interact with the computer they will uh ask questions of siri and alexa um throughout the day and uh the answers uh stink those things stink at their job they're uh generally they're good at certain things um a couple yes they're it's very like using your voice as an input method is, um, not great for too many reasons to list on a short podcast. It's just to, to put this forth as the future of, you know, the thing that might replace your smartphone,
Starting point is 00:16:58 um, or even something as a companion to your smartphone, just never made sense. The rabbit are one never made sense the rabbit r1 never made sense uh because your what is the rabbit r1 it was another thing they they released um well not released they showcased it at ces humane showcased their product at ces a few months ago and they're both similar products similar but different but they're both months ago. And they're both similar products, similar but different, but they're both equally useless because what they're offering is,
Starting point is 00:17:30 hey, you know how you have a phone? Well, here's a less useful version of that, basically. Yeah. And, yeah, it's really baffling to throw this much money into something that's clearly going to end up being a waste in a couple of years. There's no way it gets traction. It costs $699 and $24 a month for the subscription. Um,
Starting point is 00:17:55 no, the never going to happen. Like if they were going to, it is basically an Apple watch, but instead of being on your watch, it is, uh, it's like an Apple Watch without a screen. And on a
Starting point is 00:18:10 pin that you pin to your chest instead of on a strap that you put around your wrist. But it's like they made it the same shape as the Apple. If you're going to do that, I would suggest not making it the exact same shape as an Apple Watch, just an Apple Watch without a screen.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I don't foresee this taking the tech world by storm. Voice inputs are so... Like, okay, how are you supposed to put in passwords? How are you supposed to do banking with your fucking voice? It doesn't make sense. Yeah. Like, it's just not very
Starting point is 00:18:41 well thought out. And also, just when they were trying to sell this the guy uh who who created the the ceo is one of the most uncharismatic people i've ever seen do a keynote um so he didn't really sell it that well as ces uh yeah it was it was yeah wait the CEO of a company called humane is not uh a charismatic human being he looked he looked like he had just had twins and had to like break away just to do the keynote he looked so tired he looked so exhausted one review said the ai pin is the solution to none of technology's problems and another review noted that uh it doesn't work much of the time and is constantly warm which is what i exactly what you want like this thing which is sending and receiving uh rf signals right over your heart yeah so i guess don't have a pacemaker yeah do
Starting point is 00:19:48 not do not use this product for the pacemaker all right uh netflix viewers are being criticized for an opinion that uh i might happen to in some universe agree with at some level. Um, so there's this new remake of the town of Mr. Ripley. It's called Ripley. Um, it is like,
Starting point is 00:20:15 uh, like what if this very good movie was series length? Um, but it stars Andrew Scott, hot, hot, uh, priest from season two of, fleabag so you know
Starting point is 00:20:30 good actor in a role we've seen before sure that's worked before it's very funny that this is coming out right after salt burn so everybody can wash all that salt out of their mouth yes it's uh set in the 60s and all shot in black and white and critics are saying best looking tv show i've ever seen the cinematography is beautiful it looks like an art film like that it definitely has that sheen to it people non-critics are losing their goddamn minds over the black and white cinematography calling it um annoying what the critics have their say and then the people are like so fucking annoying it's weird to expect to me to expect the general public to have a rationale but i'm i can't help but wonder what is the rationale behind like why is it annoying to you to not have color and what's
Starting point is 00:21:26 so annoying about black and white i don't to people generally i don't know personally i like color um i sure not this is not an informed thoughtful take uh i i like a lot of black and white photographs. But when I'm watching movie, ooh, I like color movie. And it's because I've been watching movies since I was two years old, a time when I had the belief that black and white
Starting point is 00:22:00 movies are from a different time and are inherently worse. And the actors are bad bad and they all talk like this and they don't talk like any human being I've ever seen and so I just have this like built in irrational bias against black and white movies the guesses
Starting point is 00:22:18 from the people commenting on this for why it's black and white make me feel very stupid for agreeing with them on this uh they're like uh they only did black and white to keep the budget down like shut the fuck up i'm trying to picture my favorite black like eraser head i'm trying to picture eraser head in color and i'm like that movie is not gonna hit the same in color it's an impressive claustrophobic film the black and white really helped sell that well they couldn't they also couldn't afford uh
Starting point is 00:22:51 yeah it's for a raise your head yeah you have to pay per color each yeah each movie yeah color like when you look at those movie budgets like when you go to cvs and you want color prints you have to pay more right so So movies are the same. Yeah. I think part of the problem is that Netflix does not have any black and white movies like on, on it, you know, except for the one they won an Oscar for Roma, um, which everybody loved. I don't know what's so different now.
Starting point is 00:23:23 They got rid of everything from before. They have, I think, a total of 43 movies made before the year 1970. So they treat old movies like shit and then are hoisted by their own petard. They're annoyed that they are getting these dumb film takes uh when they give us the good movies give us the good black and white movies if you're gonna make your show in black and white and expect everybody to be down sorry i'm picturing i'm picturing people
Starting point is 00:23:57 the same argument with those sections and oppenheimer was like oh i guess they're just trying to save money on like half the movie by shooting it in black and white. God, they couldn't even afford color for the whole movie. It's crazy that they were... The broke-ass fucking Christopher Nolan. Yeah. Anyways... Weird take. Weird take that I happen to agree with
Starting point is 00:24:17 because I'm an idiot. Alright. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Thursday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
Starting point is 00:25:13 wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

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