The Daily Zeitgeist - Olive Garden Prom, Steak-Umm Literary Theory 4.24.20

Episode Date: April 24, 2020

In episode 616, Jack, Miles, and Jamie are joined by comedian Karl Hess to discuss what Joe Biden is up to, how the billionaires are just getting richer, sacrificing the weak, protesting being safe and healthy, a former Labradoodle breeder joining the U.S. pandemic task force, Steak-umm's Twitter account, and more!FOOTNOTES: Biden campaign says it has refunded donation from Louis C.K. American billionaires have gotten $280 billion richer since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic Billionaire Bonanza 2020: Wealth Windfalls, Tumbling Taxes, and Pandemic Profiteers ‘Sacrifice the weak’ and ‘Give me liberty’: Signs at coronavirus protests across US Dozens rally at TN capitol, call for Gov. Lee to re-open state immediately The Quiet Hand of Conservative Groups in the Anti-Lockdown Protests Special Report: Former Labradoodle breeder was tapped to lead U.S. pandemic task force The Trumpian Truth Trap Americans Trust Governors Most Among Economic Players Olive Garden is sending kids to virtual prom Easter Advertising Evolves; Steak-Umm Shines as a Beacon of Truth: Friday’s First Things First friendly reminder in times of uncertainty and misinformation: anecdotes are not data. (good) data is carefully measured and collected information based on a range of subject-dependent factors, including, but not limited to, controlled variables, meta-analysis, and randomization Steak-umm Exploits Millennial Angst to Sell Frozen Cheesesteak Filling Meet the minds behind the bizarre, truth-bombing Steak-umm Twitter account Brand Twitter Is Absurd, and It Will Only Get Worse A Juicy History of Steak-Umm WATCH: Ned Doheny - What Cha' Gonna Do For Me Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with guns in church voila you got straightway they try to save everybody listen to spiraled on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 130 episode 5 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top. Fuck Fox News. Fuck the Koch brothers and fuck the open America movement. It's Friday, April 24th, 2020. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Life is like a quarantine here with COVID.

Clorox face max distancing all the days blur let's solve this illness before we restart business covid outside bad bad inside good good covid danger watch behind you there's a stranger too close behind you careful you don't grab on to some covid all right rich jefferson bringing the heat uh i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray! We're inside we FaceTime together. Cold brew hot tanks forever. Find me on Twitter or PSN. I'm hosting with Potatoes

O'Brien. Now we're isolated more than ever. Know the Zeit gang has each other. Oh damn we got no Coachella. Oh damn we got no Coachella. Ella. Ella no coachella ella ella hey hey hey um great little drum loop and garage band for early adopters of garage band you probably recognize that whole beat was made in garage band but you know whatever shout out to the producer wasn't really yeah that Yeah, that... What a song.

Iconic. That shit's on there. I think all they did was add a slight open hi-hat on the maybe and of four. Anyway, but yes, that was right there. Bill Banks. Shout out to, at Listen to Blazer, Taylor Jonathan Blazer Lang for that one. Well, speaking of iconic, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by our quarantine

co-host Lil Zam herself, Jamie Loftus! And I said, what about isolation, shelter in place? She said, it feels like Contagion the film, and as I recall, first time round, we both kind of missed it.

And I said, well, we'll have to watch Contagion the film. That was mostly about Contagion. I like that one a lot. It's from at Stephen Walron. Been sitting on that one for a couple days. Really, some Grammy winning stuff is being dropped by the fine scribes of AKAs. Truly, truly. And we are thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat by today's special guest.

He is the hilarious and talented Mr. Carl Hess. Oh, my God. Great to be here, guys. Thanks for having me. It's so good to see you, Carl. You got the choir beard going. You've got a plant in frame. Yeah, this is like my full choir beard.

I'm coming out of choir like a shipwrecked man. What year is it? Auditioning for the lighthouse. Pre-show we did accuse you of having a fake plant, but you've confirmed that it's a big plant. Yes, I came into a lot of accusations flying around that this behind me was, someone said fake. Those are big naturals, folks.

I'm not coming into the Zoom chat with any fake plants. Wouldn't do that to you. Wouldn't do that to the listeners. Nothing wrong with a fake plant, but it's just, you know, it's good to know. Exactly. And you keep it out of your Zoom background. A fake plant is between you and God.

You don't share that with the world. Have you ever complimented someone's succulent and they knew it was fake and they didn't tell you? And then you looked at it closer and then you're like, hold up, there was a succulent at a yet-to-be-named person's home. And I would look at him like, that shit looks fucking delicious juicy succulent it's verdant yeah like what the fuck and then like yeah i don't know it's it's been pretty pretty

chill pretty chill that was the moment to say ah it's fake cut to months later i'm like it doesn't it always looks the same i look and it's fake i didn't say anything because i didn't want to that's a relationship built on lies yeah this is so passive aggressive because this experience is me. It was you. That's so fucked up, Miles. Jesus. Carl, did you know that there are 10,000

fiddle leaf figs in people's homes in captivity, but only 4,000 in the wild? I've heard that. I'm working to rehabilitate him i actually run a halfway home for fiddle leafs and i take in at-risk fiddle leafs and i rehab them you know give them the nutrients they need put them back out on the street put them back on the streets of brooklyn yeah i just i just put it in the middle of the park right all right carl we're gonna get to know

you a little bit better in a moment uh first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about uh joe biden uh said no thanks to some louis ck cash um okay feminist alert yeah yeah whoa ally much we're gonna see how american billionaires are doing uh now in the uh economic slowdown caused by COVID-19. My first concern was, what about our billionaires? They're our best people. Are they going to be okay? We're also going to look at the Open America Backup Movement. They had, I think, the best kind of image from late capitalism of the weak with their sacrifice the weak like the weak as in the not strong sign in tennessee uh so i want to talk about them we want to talk about uh some of the trump administration's medical experts uh we're going to talk about uh trump's just steady

hand uh at the till just a steady hand of leadership. We're going to talk about Olive Garden prom. We're going to talk about Disney. We're going to talk about Stakehams Twitter account. I'm going to talk about January. I'm going to talk about January Jones at some point.

I keep forgetting to put it in the doc, but I've been putting off talking about January Jones and it's time. We need to do that. It's time. Okay, so forget everything I just said. Can we actually scrap everything? I'd really like to talk about January Jones. Let's scrap the Joe Biden,

Louis C.K. piece and talk about that. Yes, I agree. Oh, and we're also going to try and figure out what movie we're going to watch over the weekend for our rewatch. But Carl, first we like to going to try and figure out what movie we're going to watch over the weekend for our rewatch. But Carl, first we like to ask our guests, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I have been finding simple joys in constantly searching for more and better Ghanian coffin dancer memes. Oh, yeah.

Whoa. I'm but a simple man. I'm but a simple man. I think it's the meme of our time it encapsulates uncertainty fear of death but also joy in the face of adversity the guys have just so much style it's fantastic and it's like the the meme is like evolving like it started as like a simple fail meme and now it's meta and it's being worked in in all these various ways. It's really bringing me joy

in these dark times. That whole subreddit is just the way people are... The form is taking on new manifestations by the hour. People need to pour their creativity into something. Everyone's locked something. Everyone's

locked up. It's like, this meme, we're all on board to make this the best thing we can. For people who aren't familiar, it's a video that starts off with really raucous dance techno music, and you see these establishing shots of these Ghanaian pallbearers in the most dapper outfits, Gucci frames on, mean mug in the camera. like as the track builds you slowly splice in another viral video let's just say it's maybe someone on like a rope swing who smacks into a wall and as that fall yeah as that drops building they show the moment and right at impact the drop comes in they don't really show you the awful part. They just cut to the pallbearers dancing with a casket. And it's just the set up punchline.

It's funny every time. Every time that drop hits, I'm like, oh, let me just sail away to Pleasureville Holla right now for a second. This is totally new to me. This sounds electric. Oh, my God. Wow. It's unbelievable. It's taking over most of Idiot's brains. Guys, get into it. Electric. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Wow. It's unbelievable. It's taking over most of Idiot's brains.

Guys, get into it. Get into it. Wow. If you want to go on Reddit, just call it r slash Ghana says goodbye is where a lot of people are just aggregating. They were just on a talk show, too. They're reveling in their new cultural celebrity. Yeah, because the thing that people don't realize, I think it looks so just unbelievable because in Western culture,

we usually think of our own suffering and the loss is the focal point of a funeral where Ghanaian funerals are on the weekends sometimes. Yeah, culturally, it's amazing. Just full-on banger parties, yeah. I love that. And so to see it all, you're like, wow. Yeah, I think it's actually a much healthier way to like,

I feel like I'm always being like- Oh my God, put me out like that. Dance me out. Right. When people go like full celebration of life, you're like, yeah, oh yeah, that is like the correct way to do that. Thanks for like that one last laugh you gave us.

You did something stupid and made us laugh. Are you watching some right now, Jack? No, I haven't watched it yet. I just watched the original video and I'm really prepared. I'm ready to. You're ready for the journey you saw the swag you saw the drip unbelievable drip yeah uh carl what is something you think is underrated you know i've been doing a lot of cooking uh in the quar i think a lot of people are and i I got a CSA box, you know, where you get the vegetable farm box. And, you know, so cooking a lot of vegetables specifically.

And, you know, everyone's giving beans a lot of love on social media. Beans are, you know, bean discourse in food Twitter is big. Everyone loves beans. They're the star of the quar. But I think underrated is cabbage. Oh, hell yeah. Like beans are finally becoming sexy after being relegated and kind of being like boring who cares about beans for a while cabbage needs to be next on that trajectory because cabbage is amazing it keeps for so long it's so versatile it absorbs

flavors so well it's delicious it's great for you it's like when is cabbage's time to shine soon it's a great meat sheet, you know? Oh, my God. It's amazing. You do anything. Saute, grill, bake. Raw. Eat it in the morning.

Eat it in the evening. Eat it at supper time. Cabbage tastes like wet paper. Cabbage is a reflection of the person who prepares it. You stare at it. That's true. I think I've only had, like, grandma cabbage that is very bad. I've never had great cabbage.

Oh, if you cook it properly. Oh my God. There's plenty of like, if you, if you use it in some kind of braised dish, it just, it becomes a flavor napkin. The other part is I have like a mandolin and I take raw cabbage and I just

slice it up to get, you know, if you eat like Japanese tonkatsu, like you get, you typically eat it with like razor thin raw cabbage. What I do take cabbage, little canned tuna, maybe packed in oil with a little bit of balsamic vinegar and some salads or something.

And then maybe you got an amazing cabbage salad going with just a can of tuna. Oh, it's crunchy. It's satisfying. You got to get a mandolin. If you don't have a mandolin yet, step up your fucking game. Step up your medieval instrument game. Not the instrument. The kitchen. not the kitchen yeah the kitchen the thing that every person inevitably horribly fucks their hand up

oh you'll cut yourself it's it's a cruel master the mandolin is a cruel master but it teaches yeah it does i feel like i'm uh just watching a a date go really well between miles. I'm really hitting it. I love cabbage. So do I. I love cabbage. Though, we're playing Zoom footsie like crazy right now. I'm texting him on the side. I'm like, dude, this is so hot right now.

But it's like a core date too, where you're like latching onto the smallest thing and being like, we have to get married. We have to get married. We have to get married. We had an instant connection. Right. How'd it go? He loves cabbage.

What is something that you think is underrated that Miles will enthusiastically agree with? Ooh! Or sorry, overrated. Is that wrong?

You know, what I've, more core thoughts, I feel like large-scale social Zoom hangouts are overrated. They're never really fun. There's too many people. Maybe like a one-on-one with your friends or one-two catching up. There's like 10 people.

You're like, we're drinking together. It's like, what are we doing? This isn't a party. It's laggy. Everyone just changes their backgrounds constantly and gets drunk in their own little corner. No one knows when to talk. It's like, this is not a party.

This is not a substitution for fucking hugging your friends and drinking together and revelry. And like half of them have kids that are running around too. So you're just, I'm like, oh, okay, great. Now you're flexing. They're holding the kid up. You're like, I don't want to see this. What are you doing?

Or you'll be shocked at how casual they are about their kid in the back and i'm like dude i think i think your kid's about to crawl off the steps and they're like nah it's fine it's like he's good he's good yeah he's good he's tough he's tough he's tough then you record that and turn it into a ghanian coffin dancer meme that's what yeah right there when baby's looking just down the light of steps. A lot of looming babies in the group Zoom calls for sure. What's the sweet spot for a Zoom hang? What's the most? What do we cap in it at?

Four total, I would say. Yeah, it's like a podcast. I think it's similar to a podcast because Zoom doesn't do well with multiple people talking at the same time. And that also kind of fucks up podcasts. And I mean, it does perfectly mimic my parties because I only attend parties where there's a conch that only one person's allowed to talk at a time. But I can see how it gets weird for people who are used to normal parties. You gotta go Lord of the Fly style or nothing. Yeah. He always cosplays

as Piggy with his Asmar. That sounds like... The conch shell thing sounds like something that would happen at like Jared Leto's... Jared started a really cool thing this week. I really like it. You do coke at Jared Leto's house. He has you guys like, look, dude, it gets way too out of control. None of y'all can talk unless you're holding a con show, okay?

So that's the only way we're going to have this thing from staying on the rails. You do a conk bump. Day 41 of him not knowing what COVID-19 is. The really scary thing about Jared Leto is that, like, we talked about how he kind of might have, like, a cult-ish thing starting. And people reached out and were like, yeah, but he's, like, really cool and, like, really nice. So, like, if you pay any attention to him. He's actually really charismatic in person, so it's not a cult. Yeah.

Right. And he's, like, one of those people that, that like looks you in your eyes and like you can tell they care about you and like they actually care about what you're saying. Oh, you mean like a charismatic leader? You mean like Tom Cruise,

which is every person's anecdote about working with Tom Cruise? Yeah. He goes around to everybody on set. He shakes their hand. He says their name back to them. He says his name is Tom. Then he thanks everyone

and like will do like the hand on that like double hand clap. Right. It's like, wow. Like a normal man. Yeah, exactly. He doesn't have to do that. That sounds like a four-year-old.

But he also has this energy, though. If you look Tom Cruise in his eyes, he has this power. He makes you feel like the only person in the room. I don't know. He's dialed it in. He's dialed in that trait. No, but see, he remembers your name at the end of the conversation. So that's the thing. He knows

all the names. George W. Bush, the other king who has that ability that we've learned. People love George W. Bush. It's embarrassing. People love him.

Leave that fucking bullshit in the ground where it belongs. He does paintings now, guys. He's a reverse Hitler. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false, Carl? Longstanding thing that I've disagreed with. Everyone says on a first date, don't go to a place where you eat wings because it's messy and that's not the kind of food you want to eat when you're having initial social contact with someone who

you want to see if you want to date but that is completely wrong you want to get wings on your first date because it tells you so much about a person how they approach the wing if someone leaves meat on the bone do you think they're gonna fuck good do you think they're gonna put in the work the tongue and mouth work to fuck good and make you come no they're not and you can tell a lot about someone by the way they eat a wing are they lazy do do they care do they care about themselves do they care about you you can learn that in three wings why would you not go to get wing? You can learn that from the order. And again, Carl, I mean, you're

speaking right to my heart, honey. I'm about to pick you up right now for a wing date. The Zoom date continues. He's killing it. Jack and I are actually just gonna get out of here. I think that we've done what we came here to do. Bring two lonely dudes together in a weird way over wings

and cabbage. He sexualized wings in a weird way over wings and cabbage. He sexualized wings in a way I really liked. The way he said flavor napkin. But yeah, what do you say? What about if they order boneless wings? Now, see, I don't want to jump to conclusions. I'm leaving immediately if boneless is involved.

Because I want to be like, wait, are you ordering that because you think about the whole wing thing? It's too sloppy. You want to do a fork and knife job. That's why you ordered boneless. Or is that truly order boneless wings?

Because those are, like I say, those are wings for cowards. Right. You want to know if they're ordering it because they're like, I'm scared to eat off a bone in front of you. And then it's like, no, no, no, no, no. Please be you. Do you. By all means.

By all means. All right. Well, guys, let's talk about Joseph Biden. Joseph Robinette. Is that his middle name? Yeah. Robinette. That's his middle name? Yeah. Robinette.

That's his middle name? What? Yeah. Robin J. Joseph R. Biden. It's like some weird Robin thing. Robin Thicke. Robin Thicke. Yeah, Robin Thicke.

Joseph Robin Thicke. It's a Robinette. Yeah, it's Robinette, but for the purposes of this show, he will now be known as Joseph Robin Thicke Biden Jr. Perfect vibe. known as joseph robin thick biden jr perfect vibe so biden returned a 2800 donation uh to louis ck uh i don't know i don't know what to feel about this other than uh not care how about you guys yeah well i think just i think it's just one of those things where it's like, yeah, when you have a candidate who has sexual assault allegations against them, maybe when people start going through their donor list, you probably don't want Louis C.K. there. But at the same time, they're being really quiet about it.

A campaign spokesperson would only just be like, it's been refunded. And they're like, but do you want to further discuss the reason reason they're like no it's just been refunded no what are you talking about we just didn't like uh his last special it's just oh it's just like every angle you come at it is gross it's just like well great if one molester refuses to take money from another molester i don't know the the world is still fucking like pile of ash like what do you like what do you want i don't know i don't yeah i don't know if it's like one of those things they wanted people to know happened that they didn't want people to know yeah because no well but it's just weird because no matter what i at least for some people who would take the allegations against biden

seriously like this thing just feels it just looks weird no matter like you're saying no matter how you're talking about it's like yeah it could be a stunt it could be a pr stunt right like that's how grim the biden campaign is like we need to get some action in here also and just embarrassing for everyone that like anyone that even like louis ck like who's horrible had to be outed as a biden donor like it's just like it's all fucking bleak oh god so grim is he in hiding like currently what what is uh what do we think their strategy is for the biden keep him away from the camera at all costs he's doing some appearances the last week he's been on like talk shows they're just like not picking up traction or whatever i mean like in his defense just in in terms of the flow of,

if you have the nomination wrapped up, you'll take a little bit of a break from the trail to just kind of reset yourself for the main push and figure it out. Senior spring, coast for a little bit. But it's still like there's a fucking national emergency going on. I've been encouraged that he's been doing like more than i expected which is just like more than he did before bernie dropped out basically but like i mean he's done like a few of those live streams i haven't watched any of them but

he's done some pretty hard to watch there i mean it's like i guess he's like at least trying to look like he might be doing something so i'm like all right i think i mean the I guess he's at least trying to look like he might be doing something. So I'm like, all right. I think, I mean, the only thing- That's good to know. I didn't know he was trying to do that. I thought he was still in that weird green screen. He's like semi, he's around. The bar is low. As long as his eye doesn't start bleeding, it's like, okay, he's holding it together.

Cool. Right, yeah. Yeah, I think just, and also because now they're like okay well since we have our chance to basically compare you uh to directly to trump during all this and give some people some kind of juxtaposition to use going into the election but yeah i think the only thing i'm care about to hear is what whoever the vp pick is going to be uh because if there are people saying it could be amy klobuchar it could be whoever. I'm like, I don't know. Please don't do that.

The least you can do is pick a woman of color, okay? Right, yeah. Right. I've honestly not been paying very close attention to what Joe Biden does. It bums me out. Nor should you. At the same time, man, I mean,

it's not like some clubmentum could hurt, you know? Right, right. You get that clubmentum on board. It's just chugga-chugga-choo-choo. He did that really awkward appearance the other day. I don't even remember what it was on, but he was just like, yeah, he was doing a jokey VP announcement.

He's like, yeah, I choose Julia Louise Dreyfuss. I'm like, go away. Oh, get out of here. I choose Selena. I'm like, is the. Get out of here. I choose Selena. I'm like, is the joke that she's a horrible person and you're like, what are you doing? I just can't. Julia Louise.

It's going to be a long time until November. It is. I'm like, I just compartmentalize. It's like, I choose Catwoman herself, Selena Kyle, as my vice president. What the fuck, Joe? What? I mean, it's like, go to bed.

No, I'm going to choose Black and Halle Berry. Sleepy Joe. It's a funny name. Trump is good at one thing, making up insulting nicknames. Sleepy Joe is on target. And that's what it could devolve into? Or is this going to be which old man has the nastier mouth? Of course.

I'm sorry, those pony-faced dragon ninja warrior insults are just going to confuse people. His 1920s slurs? Yeah, like, oh my goodness. Yeah, you street urchin. Okay, what? I do like,

Carl, you said senior spring, and I think that's a good way of thinking. Oh, he's coasting. I think the more they keep him out from doing anything substantial, the less he can fuck up. He's already got the nomination. What are we even doing?

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i don't know yeah again the media is doing a great job i've not where have the pieces been have been like where the fuck is tom steyer and bloomberg who were acting like they had fucking answers to everything and their big dick wallets could unlock the secrets of the matrix etc where the fuck are they like shut the fuck up and i think and again this is good this isn't gonna happen because when you have like these larger news networks they can't suddenly like put the focus on like their bosses but that's really what this is all boiling down to is like the buck stops at a certain point because they can't take the national discourse like, yeah, man, my boss is trash. And the companies that advertise with us, they can fuck off because they're fucking people over.

But let's talk about Trump. He's confused. That's why shit like QAnon conspiracy flourishes, because there's like the official narrative is so garbage and it's clearly so divorced from any reality that anyone's living. It's like, of course, people are going to start investing in some weird friendship. It's like at least it's something. At least it's something that's engaging them where they are. Yeah, I fully agree. I mean, it's going to be whatever happens.

It's going to be invisible or derided by the mainstream media. by the mainstream media but i i think somebody has to lead a more tethered to reality version of of whatever uh revolution is coming because the the other option like you said is q or it's gonna be these people who are being uh astroturfed through libertarians and cynical billionaires. Yeah. The sacrifice the weak thing is really a true sign of where I think some of this distress is coming out, at least the distress on the right. So the billionaires are shrewd enough to re-aim the people's anger and frustration at poor people, people who are out of work, sick people, scientists, and doctors. That's where they're aiming it now.

And it's working. It is working. I mean, it's like we're crowdfunding half the fucking country right now just to help people. And and i i mean i i feel like there should be some sort of media i mean it's never going to happen because billionaires own most media outlets but there should be some sort of like kibosh on uh celebrating when a billionaire gives a like what seems like a large amount of money to relief for anything because it's nothing to them. Right. And it totally ignores

what you're talking about, which is that they're profiting off of this and then they're giving away less than a percent of the profit they're making off of this pandemic happening. And it should be treated the same way that we don't mention or don't like glorify school shooters.

Like don't congratulate a billionaire on doing something. Don't give them that kind of attention. That's literally what they want. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it always helps that narrative of like they're so generous

because they gave away 0.03% of their wealth. What have you done to help? Did you do that? Well, that's exactly. I don't know, proportionately. Actually, yeah, more than you. Mathematically, more. Technically, so fuck you. It's ridiculous.

Like, and yeah, I mean, I feel like that, like there are, I mean, Bill Gates definitely comes to mind of like someone who like has given a lot, but it's like that a lot of his reputation is built on like, oh, he's a giver. It's like, well, he fucking has a lot. Phil it's like that a lot of his reputation is built on like oh he's a giver it's like well he fucking has a lot like philanthropy is a scam same yeah like same for like elon musk will do that every once in a while and like it give and i can't i mean i just fucking can't did you see the thing with the ventilators where he's like i'm sending these ventilators i'm helping everyone they're like not ventilators or cAP machines. They don't even work for COVID. And he's like, job well done. Time to hit the road.

He sent 500 cabbages to a hospital. You're just like, what? Fucking useless. Send it to me, Elon. Send it to Carl. I do feel like Gates is probably in a different category than Bezos and Elon Musk in that he gives away at

least a significant portion of his money whereas Bezos is like I grant one million dollars which is like 0.001 nothing but the big thing that these the billionaire class has done is in the background since 1980 the taxes paid by billionaires as a percentage of their wealth has dropped 79%. So they've successfully taken over the political system so that they no longer have to pay taxes. And then anything they do to help people because there's no longer a safety net to help poor people or sick people when there's a fucking pandemic, they then get to pat themselves on the back, but they're really giving significantly less

than they have any right to give. I'm an accelerationist now. How bad is shit going to get? The silver lining of this is, let's see how bad shit gets until it breaks because if this isn't going to do it, what's going to fucking do it? Yeah, right.

It's like, then just cut to the chase. What the fuck? I just think it's going to go in the direction of anti-science, anti-doctor, rather than anti-phobia. In America? Yeah. It's hard. On some level, I see that possibility. But then it's like one of those things where we all know on some level, right?

Like, if you can't fix a car, you're not going to try and fix your car. You will concede that someone with that knowledge exists and that they can probably help you. And those are like, that's like kind of a fundamental thing. Most people have, except for like some quirky relatives who claim to know how to do every fucking thing. But like, I think on some level too, when it push comes to shove i feel like someone would it's going to take a very specific kind of person to like reject expert help and when it comes to a moment that they themselves need it and then be like yeah yeah i don't need that because we see people like it's like a lot of fringe like religious groups that get into shit where it's like so anti-science like no man i just had to get more snake bites and then my cough would go away like right that plays out but i think

on some level most people know like fuck i want to go to a doctor like a doctor help me helps me feel better like that still exists i'm i i don't know like what exactly that effect is gonna have because it's not like saying the treatments they have given us are no longer effect. I guess that's really where it has to go for that sort of trust to break. Yeah. Yeah, I should be less focused on those people probably because they are still

a statistically insignificant part of the population. That's true. I guess I'm being swayed by some pretty startling imagery but when it comes to the amount of money that is being put behind trying to organize them that's what scares me a little bit well i guess what i'm saying is it's it's it's of course astroturfing works 100 that's how you take like a fucking 95 5 issue and turn it into a 30 70 somehow like overnight right and yeah but the but i think the difference is the the sentiment right of the tea party wasn't that like we need to have fucking less government overreach in these death panels it's like i hate that the

president is black that's why i'm right yeah that's they don't they never said that right right but the bottom line is that's what they were only there fighting for because when push came to shove and they were going to take their Obamacare away look what the fuck happened they were screaming don't take it away so it's just like right now it's put more black and brown people at risk by forcing them back to work or put

poor people who I don't know at risk back to work it's about the economy and then they get into a confederate flag lifted truck and you're like okay and but they're not going to say like it's because i really feel that there are fundamental issues with our medical system and how the doctors are actually in the uh the scientists are approaching this it's it's another thing like we're they're using the shutdown now but it's always gonna all roads lead back to some form of xenophobia white supremacy and they're good at weaponizing that anger right all right well let's look at who is specifically working so we've

talked about how there's different people in the president's cabinet who are tied to these uh protests like that that is essentially being pushed by the same people who are working for Trump in the White House and working on his behalf in the 2020 election. But let's look at who he specifically... He talks about how he only puts the best people on everything. And this being the biggest problem in the history of the modern world, you'd think that that would just be where he goes into the well and pulls out the very, very best people. Oh, man. He just took that dipper

and dipped it into the celestial waters. And what he brought back up was something straight out of a fucked up nightmare. So Alex Azar, who is the Secretary of Health and Human Services and former pharma ghoul, like CEO, like pharmaceutical. Anyway, that's who the head of HHS is. He appointed his most trusted aide to run the day-to-day response from HHS to coordinate all those day-to-day things around the pandemic.

So great. the pandemic. This is so great. But read this. I just want to read this excerpt from like the early days of this task force when his most trusted aide was leading the way, a man by the name of Brian Harrison. The HHS role was to muster resources from key public health agencies, the CDC, FDA, National Institutes of Health, Office of Global Affairs, and the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response. Harrison decided, the sources say, to exclude FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn from the task force. Quote, he said he didn't need to be included, end quote. Okay, so that's the guy who's doing that. You look a little bit deeper,

this man has no public health policy experience, no public health experience, no science medical experience aside from working with this man. And when you look a little bit more into his biography, you see that he ran a small business in Texas, end quote, in his personal biography. And when you look deeper into personal disclosure forms, he sold a business that he ran up until he joined the administration from 2012 to 2018 called Dallas Labradoodles, from 2012 to 2018 called Dallas Labradoodles,

a company selling Australian Labradoodles. That's what this dude, one of his businesses was. We're so beyond satire. Yeah. How do you mock this shit? What are we doing? This is horrible writing. Oh, no.

Right. If this was in a script, you'd be like, I don't know. We need to rework this. We got notes. It's a reach. Yeah. right if this was in a script you'd be like i don't know we need to rework this we got notes it's a reach yeah so he was in charge of like cutting people in and out of the loop when it came to yeah or just saying as health and human services because we're you know we have a major role in this coordinating with everyone you're gonna help coordinate this response cut out the fda commissioner the food and drug whatever i mean this is and who knows what the fuck kind of petty bullshit's going on where it's like whether he actually believed they

didn't need to be included or there's just some stupid personal politics shit trying to be shady but at the end of the day we're putting people in charge who have no business being in charge not to mention the doctor who was supposed to lead all the vaccine research was basically ousted because he kept saying yo knock it off with the hydroxychloroquine shit there's nothing scientific that suggests this is worth it let's put the money into like how we actually do things in science next thing you know he's like oh i found myself on the outside of that group now they have yeah they're like a hole opened up in the floor and he's just where'd that guy go what guy real quick that guy brian harrison the labradoodle guy i just want to make it clear that it's not like he had one wacky job on a resume that was otherwise full of experience

in public health policy he has none nothing to do with science or the medical field he's just no just a rando. He's just a good guy. Well, and worked with him at a company. He's been in the private sector. He's just a private sector guy who happened to hitch his wagon to the star of Alex Azar, and that's where he ended up. Wait, really? What do we know about the Labradoodles?

Were they good? Where are they at now? Were they good boys? Were they good boys? What do we know about that?radoodles were they good where are they at now were they good boys were they good boys what are we going where are the labradoodles good boys the apparently when uh the when reuters asked health and human services specifics on how much he had sold the business for 225 000 is what that business is worth when he said that is not a lot of money for a business to be worth right who knows maybe it? Maybe it was all inventory. I mean, I don't know what the process is. Is the inventory dogs?

Is there a fertilization technique? We don't know. I mean, look, we don't know. Did he sell a quarter million dollar worth of dogs? I'm willing to continue investigating this. I would also love him to come on and we treat him like it's an episode of Shark Tank. We need answers. We need fucking answers. And what

are your operating costs right now, Brian? Uh-huh. Okay. And the boys, were they good? So I've had a hard time just following what the president, like what his stance is,

what his plan is for various things. And it turns out it's because he just changes his mind. He just says, psych, every time he puts out a big notion. I don't know if he's just lying. It's like he's saying, nah, just kidding, pump faking. Or he's just like Toni Morrison's stream of consciousness beloved storytelling, where he'll just say whatever is coming to mind at the time without making sure it's connecting. Violence against Tony Morrison.

I mean, look, I love that. And the reason I bring that up is because I remember my mind being blown. I'm like, to my teacher, I'm like, it goes all over the place. And shout out to Miss Nelson, my AP literature teacher. I was like, that's what it's supposed to be, the stream of consciousness style of storytelling. But it's about something at the end. It's going somewhere. It is going somewhere.

I just meant stream of consciousness. However, okay, no Toni Morrison slander here. But every week there's been something wild that the president said. It was total authority over the states. What's the constitution? I'm number one authority then there was a thing where he said like i told the navy to shoot down any iranian ships who want to step to us the navy was like we have not heard any such directive come from

anywhere not the pentagon not anybody i've not even know what this man is talking about we don't have orders like that then uh yesterday we're talking about the immigration ban how and we were like how can he what does that mean how can you do that well now we find out that's just another fucking bullshit thing because now they're just saying oh they're just putting a hold on green cards for 60 days like i think really we're seeing how desperate this whole pandemic is like normally he'll say some shit and he'll typically follow through somewhat in some way but like the frequency of these ones where he's just like pump faking like it's like he's like He'll say some shit and he'll typically follow through somewhat in some way. But like the frequency of these ones where he's just like pump faking, like it's like, he's like,

he's like been in the same, like lying and making idiotic, grandiose statements, like got him to be president. Like he doesn't have another mode, but now that he's into like a legitimate life or death crisis, he's like, can I just keep doing the same stuff?

What? I don't know what, he's a fucking idiot. I keep doing the same stuff uh what i don't know what's uh he's a fucking idiot i mean what metal to the metal and uh there's a new gallop poll that suggests that some people you know we talked on yesterday's episode about how old people uh since they're the most at risk might uh it might be getting real for them because they're starting to not prefer him in polls against Robinette. But now it just seems like his numbers are going in the wrong direction

in this latest Gallup poll. Most people prefer their local governor over him by quite a bit. 68% say they had a great deal or fair amount of confidence in terms of their ability to make the right decisions for the state from an economic basis because they're asking like, what do you think about that? Is your governor killing a state? And most people are like, no. 68% were saying that

and only 47% felt that they had any kind of confidence in anything he was saying about the economy. That's a good perspective to have. It's like, you heard the news stories about Trump's popularity is up, but it's like you know you heard the news stories about oh trump's like popularity's up but it's like trump's not really that popular no no to an extent like he's like you're the character you select when you're playing a video game and that's about it right for a president uh he is unpopular but for trump he is at like near the most popular he's been

since he took office I mean I guess we'll like know when we know but I'm I want to be optimistic that like he's got a base that he's never going to lose like there is that chunk that you're like you're not going to change their minds don't waste your time but it

seems like there are a lot of people especially old people who voted for him in the first election out of frustration whatever it is whatever latent shit they have going on that would not vote for him again and it's just a matter of like but is it enough people i think there's also like the enthusiasm gap though it's like you like you said trump has his hardcore base they'll vote for him no matter what but it's like no one's enthusiastic about biden in 2016 like half the what. But it's like, no one's enthusiastic about Biden. In 2016, like half the country stayed home. It's like, that could happen again easily.

Who cares? Like, no one's energized or enthused or brought into this process by Biden. And it's like, who's enthusiastic about Robinette? No one's going to, like, risk their lives, especially if by November where we're at, like, risking your life to go out and vote for Joe Biden is a very depressing prospect. Oh, my God. I've always said Joe Biden is the Robinette to Obama's Batmanette. Oh, boy. There it is.

The California Raisinettes. With the skin of a Raisinette. skin of a raisinette uh i mean i think the thing though when you look at even the with trump's numbers you know with in terms of trust of local governors over him in states like you know wisconsin pennsylvania michigan that were like vital to him winning those are a lot of the places too where his support isn't as good anymore because they're looking at a state where like they're going toe-to-toe with my governor who I believe actually knows my state and cares about what's going on here. And it's like, why is this guy coming at my governor when I actually do believe we need to be safe? And on top of that, you have Mitch McConnell saying, what about more stimulus cash going to states that are truly cash-strapped?

And he's saying, well, then maybe they should just go bankrupt. And people are saying, go – I'm sorry, what the fuck fuck that is not a good campaign ad for the gop right now especially you're like you do know this is your country right like right right yeah yeah did you know that mitch mcconnell's kids hate him like hell yeah right he has like liberal like daughters who are liberal activists and just fucking despise him uh which i was thrilled to learn i've briefly fell down a hole of looking at paul ryan's teenage daughter's tiktok and by briefly you mean hours hours. Time is a construct. By briefly, it's on a loop on a television behind you. She had this whole long-ass story about how she was skiing,

because of course she was, and she hit Mark Zuckerberg on the slopes. She ran into him? Yeah. She says it was him, and then people in the commenters are like, you're a liar. It's not him.

It's the lowest stakes controversy. But all these people's children hate, and they're all on TikTok. Look up GOP kids on TikTok. It's my dark web. Does she acknowledge she hates him, or is it more of a tacit? No, there's nothing explicit that I saw saw i didn't watch the whole feed but there's but there's some stuff you could just like sense in her tiktoks well it's hard to tell i mean it's like i don't know how much she politically differs from her dad or just how much she's just

like a teenage girl that's like so my dad oh and you're just like jack clearly needs you to just say that she hates him and it's clear you You can tell from her dances. She hates daddy so much. Yeah, you can tell. More importantly, is she good at dancing? She hates. Right. No, she's a storyteller. I'm going to stop promoting her TikTok now.

One of those TikToks. There, yeah. Oh, one of those dancers. A narrative TikToker. Yeah. I'm not a dancer. I'm a storyteller. I'm both a dancer and a storyteller. I tell

a story through my dance. I'd hate to narrowly define my art as just dance or storytelling. You see them dance, you're like, oh, that's why you said that. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Olive Garden prom. Hello, everyone.

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It reeks of hey fellow kids kind of like marketing that it's just hilarious. So I love Olive Garden. Yes, it is the spot for teenagers to feel like they're balling to be like oh let's go like if you're 15 6 my mom drop i have enough to eat at olive garden we will pretend we can tip after this meal and then when the bell comes everyone's like what no right yeah it's a good like and i went on like an anniversary date quote unquote in high school to Olive Garden. To the OG?

Holy shit. Yeah. Exciting. Thank you for the hospitality. I don't know. And you're like, ooh. So apparently they refer to themselves as, quote, the unofficial pre-prom restaurant, which actually kind of tracks with my own experiences of being like, yep.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Hit the Olive Garden, the OG. So now they're doing like, again, doing their part. Because in these difficult times, now more than ever, they want to bring us together. Amid coronavirus panic, Olive Garden throws prom. I'm so glad they have my back.

I feel good about it. So with hashtag Olive Garden prom, basically they're saying like, kids can take a picture by themselves. Someone takes a photo of you in your prom outfit and then their date do the same thing and then if you submit it together with the hashtag someone will stitch the photos together and make it seem like the last unfurloughed employee okay that's a really mean thing to do i hope that they're i mean i hope that their hourly rate is good for doing that horrible task this is also what's even worse is some like they have an app where you can do. They have downloadable prom breadstick bouquets, which feature.

So those are like ones they can lay on top of the photo with things like Cavatoppy Queen or Prince of Parmesan and Breadstick Bay. This is still less embarrassing to me than John Krasinski's weird YouTube channel, so I don't know. Yes. Wow. I got roasted the last time I made fun of John Krasinski's weird YouTube channel, but guess what? It's fucking weird. I'm with you on that one. I can't bring myself to watch it because

I'm like, I don't want to hear from John Krasinski outside of me watching The Office High. You definitely don't want to. He did a prom episode of his creepy YouTube channel, and I'm just like, I don't need this. I will say all these food companies are getting in trouble for taking small business bailout money. Shake Shack took all this money, and then they had to give it back.

Ruth's Chris took it. Olive Garden, not taking that bailout. They're just helping teens during this troubling dark time. We're in this together. Cheesecake Factory, they're like, we don't taking that bailout. They're just helping teens during this troubling dark time. We're in this together. Cheesecake Factory, they're like, we don't need the bailout. We're just not going to pay rent. And you're like, oh, sick. They're like, what are you going to do, landlord?

We're the Cheesecake Factory. Yeah, you can't. They're untouchable. What are you going to do to us? I know I'm being overly sympathetic to them, but I would go to Olive garden prom before i go to john krasinski prom if it comes to that that's where that's where my loyalty lies everybody's gonna have to choose a side when the revolution comes yeah that would tip off the revolution

cheesecake factory getting evicted that's when people fucking rise up yeah that would be the end comrade cheesecake factory god people love that john krasinski show so much the do they some good news it but uh it makes sense it's so it's so transparent on its surface why people watch it like it's he it's like any idea anyone would have you know what people could really use right now something you can watch that doesn't isn't gonna stress you out that'll put a smile on your face and then you can go back to your cruel world. But I'm just too cynical to be like, I don't want that. I want

to watch more Oz. It's got to be better than Jack Ryan. Exactly. Exactly what I'm saying. Speaking of, hey, fellow kids, marketing tactics. So, Stake'Em, you've probably heard, like this damn near killed

twitter persona stake them damn near killed them they have this twitter persona where they're like really dark and they're like friendly reminder in times of uncertainty and misinformation anecdotes are not data like saying things that are actually true in sort of an angsty way where it's like, huh, that's so weird that it's coming from Steak'Em, the company that sells shitty fake meat. Well, it turns out

it's the work of the marketing firm that they hired, which is probably pretty obvious. But the firm's owner got their 28-year-old son, Nathan, to write the tweets. Whoa. According to Nathan, he tries to embody the, quote, brand features like how it was a family-owned frozen meat company built by the working class, which isn't true. We'll get to that. And he says he tries to personify the brand using,

quote, his own thoughts and an, quote, adaptable human-esque style. That's so... So his dad is just like, Nate, you're depressed, right? Write something down. Hey, here, here. Get off TikTok and get into my company's account.

Hell yeah. I'm going to give you the login for the Stakehams Twitter. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Go. Just tweet what you normally would. Just tweet what you normally would. I'm surprised the account hasn't tweeted something. Do some of that millennial bullshit.

Yeah, like something about his bitch ex-girlfriend. At some point, isn't Nathan going to slip up and forget he's logged into the Stakehams? The meltdown is coming. At some point, isn't Nathan going to slip up and forget he's logged into the Stakehams? The meltdown is coming. Well, it's definitely going through his stage mom or stage dad of the company owner, his dad, his employer, who's like, come on, Nate, this is shit. Can you imagine what the relationship is like between them? What is this shit?

This is what they like, dad. Everybody's sad. Pelting him with legal notepads filled with tweet-like drafts that he's like, none of these are good enough. It's like, oh my God. These are not human-esque enough.

More human. This isn't steak-ums. It's like the dad says, I hope that they still live together. They have breakfast together. And he's like, Nate, I've really been loving your work, but I would love if you mentioned steak once. Just fucking once, Nate.

So their ultimate goal is obviously to sell steakums, which that's literally like poison so that that's one thing that like i hadn't really thought about what steakums was i just knew it as like a what is it not is it for people it started when a uh person who's like family business was uh meat shipping realized that they could form the emulsified meat product that is comprised of beef trimmings left over after the animal is slaughtered and all the primary cuts,

such as tenderloin, filet, and ribeye are removed. So this is like the leftovers. The emulsified meat- We're leaving all this money on the ground. The emulsified meat is pressed into a loaf and sliced frozen and packaged and then they turn it into steak them yeah so the son of a meat packer invented a log of beef byproducts which his dad promptly threw at him shouting nobody is ever gonna buy this shit and then they sold this quote this quote unquote family company to Heinz back in 1980.

But I do like that Steakham started with a terrible father-son relationship and is now ending with one. Company tradition. Then there was someone who tried to start a rumor that that guy Nathan was the son of David Koresh from the Branch Davidians. Wait, what? That's amazing. Yes, so in Waco in 1993.

That could be fucking true, though. That awful ATF FBI raid that ended with 80 people dying. They were saying that someone was trying to say that Nathan was the son of David Koresh. And people were like, yeah, that makes sense. Yep. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. That tracks.

I have an entire epic screenplay that I wrote in my early 20s about the son of David Koresh. Yeah, you did. Can we do a Santa University style table read of it? I don't know where it is, but let's put some time in. You know where it is. It's in a safe deposit box. I don't know exactly where it is. That's in a safe deposit box. Exactly where it is. That I mailed to myself.

Release the manuscript. Yep, yep. Can somebody track down who spread that rumor? Because I'm going to sue them for trademark. That was my idea that David Koresh's son goes viral. That's the first piece of terrible advice you get when you try to become a writer. Yeah, exactly.

And then just mail the script to yourself. And then you're good dude copyright no that's right 15 years later yeah so i i am kind of obsessed with david koresh and waco and that whole thing and uh there is a new mini-series on i was watching it yeah i haven't is it good is it good i haven't watched it uh it's funny because there's so many people from boardwalk empire in it like michael shannon they got michael shannon nookie's brother and then the other blonde guy who was like the polish guy anyway i don't know any of that i'm terrible with the names i just remember their character but it was weird for me to watch the character actor crop yeah i was like this is all boardwalk anyway i very quickly quickly started blowing through the episodes.

I'm like maybe at episode four right now, and I'm still kind of enjoying it. You know who's going to end up like David Koresh? Who? Jared Leto. Whoa. Jared Leto, yeah, yeah. That's where it's hiding. Jared Leto is actually David Koresh's father.

I heard that. I'm clear. Jared Leto is secretly old. I like that on Twitter. Jared Leto is secretly old. I like that theory. The series is well acted and it's told in a cool way because I was pretty interested in the whole Waco Branch Davidians incident

and had watched all the news documentaries and stuff about it. But this one's kind of cool, the dramatization, because they start with the day the raid happens and then they like just smash cut to like nine months later so they give you they kind of sandwich the whole thing for you nicely in the first episode hell yeah should that be our rewatch nah fuck nah also it's made it's

made by uh the guys who made that like daniel craig racist movie where like oh he's in a foreign country is it daniel craig like he's in a foreign country but like it's basically very straight up like white people versus terrorists um that's jack ryan jack ryan yeah yeah yeah right right right that's starring the some good news network guy yeah yeah i like that guy yeah yeah uh yeah, yeah. I got to find it, but the writers, directors of that are the people behind some really whack shit. All right, so guys, let's talk real quick. What are we thinking for our rewatch over the weekend

that we can go deep with people on? I'm feeling very indecisive this week. I don't know. Miles, it's your decision. I was going to suggest National Treasure, but we just did that on the Bechdel cast. I would talk about it again, though. Do it again. Well, let's not cannibalize your

takes there, since they can find that gold on your show. No, she's got takes ready to go. I'm like, these are the same ones from the show. These are stale takes. Should we do Men in Black? I know we were dancing around that one. I'm like, these are the same ones from the show. These are stale takes. Oh, these are stale takes. Should we do Men in Black?

I know we were dancing around that one. I'm down to do Men in Black. Yeah, Men in Black is widely available too, right? It's on Netflix, I think. Okay. Well then, Men in Black it is. That's a good one. Lots of people have seen it.

Lots of people will be able to rewatch it if they want to go deep again. Barry Sonnenfeld. Barry Sonnenfeld, who is just a network favorite. We love him. You love him, folks. You got to love him. Dude, I loved this movie so much

because I was such a Will Smith fan as a kid. I had the screenplay that I would read over and over and over again that I bought at Bookstall. Wow. Precious. That is amazing. Honestly, I would used to tell people all the time,

I make this look good. It's a great line. It's still good. You know what the difference between you and me is? I make this look good. Then he puts on the sunglasses. That was like the more swaggy version for like black kids Rather than saying like somebody stop me

I make this look good By far the better option I was the mask kid I was like nailed it I was also mask gang Do not go in there smoking What do you guys know about Cuban Pete? Oh, he's the king of Roomba Pete.

There's so many kids whose entire sense of humor was Jim Carrey impressions in the early 90s. Oh, yeah. Checking in. Checking in. Hello. Hello. All right.

Well, so Men in Black it is. Everybody rewatch that this weekend. We will be back on Monday to talk about it and just analyze. Pick it apart, eviscerate it. Carl, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Where can people find you and follow you? I am on Twitter and Instagram at Carl Hess. That's K-A-R-L-H-E-S-S.

Nailed it. I also have a food podcast called Yelling About Pate. If you want more cabbage takes, talk about a cabbage a lot on there. That's at YapPod on Instagram, Y-A-P-P-O-D. All right. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes. I really like this one from a guy named Cullen Crawford, at HelloCullen.

I really like this one from a guy named Cullen Crawford at Hello Cullen. Just do a show where Elaine Seinfeld and Kramer were murdered in jail and Costanza has to readjust to society. Genius idea. Genius. That's so good. Jamie, where can people find you and what's the tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on twitter.com slash jamieloftishelp or on Instagram at jamiecrestsuperstar. And I'm going to shout out the goddamn January Jones video.

It's so good. Oh, shit. I was not following January Jones on Instagram because I didn't know I should have been. But my friend Cassidy Olson at Olson Cassidy reposted something that January Jones had posted, which is her trying to make one of those like celebrity stay at home videos

about like how gardening has helped her, which would have sucked. But her eight-year-old son is directing the video and he keeps like making her stop and start over and it just like devolves into gray gardens in the first 30 seconds where she's in this like robe and he's like cut i need more emotion and she's like i disagree i don't think i need more emotion like she's like taking his direction so seriously how old is like all right is this one he's eight and she's but january jones she's just a weird direction so seriously. How old is the son?

He's eight. And she's, but January Jones, she's just a weird lady. Like, and then when I looked at her Instagram, I'm like, oh,

she's a weird lady. Like she's like posting all these videos of her sweeping her house, wearing masks. And you're just like, I don't know what's going on with her, but she takes her son's direction so seriously. And by the end, he's kind of like broken her a little bit.

And she's just like, I just don't know what you want me to do. Like, I think his name is like Xander. end he's kind of like broken her a little bit and she's just like I just don't know what you want me to do like I think his name is like Xander because he's like some rich kid but he's like she's like Xander I just don't know what you want me to do he's like do it again do it right it's so good you have to watch it Xander Dane

yeah of course Xander Jones if you don't say action right now xander day and jones uh miles where can people find you and follow you and what's tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram playstation network miles of gray on my other show for 20 day fiance talking about 90 day fiance with sophia alexandra uh some tweets i like tweets I like god damn this one just cuts right through my spirit it's from Reductress it says

how I'm staying sane by jogging and telling everyone about how I'm jogging that's about me right about the now guys you gotta jog let me tell you baby it's so meditative. And also one more from Reductress.

Quiz, have you made the Bon Appetit focaccia yet, or do you live with someone you can fuck? Feel that. Feel that. At TweetPotatoes314 tweeted, Priest, the groom has chosen to write his vows. Me, hi, everyone. I'd like to perform an

acapella version of the song that most perfectly encapsulates my bride, the beautiful and amazing Grace. Audience, aww. Me, into mic, yeah, it's been. And then Ada McVian tweeted, daily reminder

that turtles are not inside their shells. They are their shells. And it's a picture of like a turtle skeleton. And apparently they are, like there's not a shell really. And Natalie Rotter-Lateman tweeted, imagine getting this reminder daily. This reminder daily.

You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on miles what is that gonna be today gonna go out on a bit of you know some yacht rock just some easy listening vibes to take into the weekend i've been you know i just just something to put on around the house put your bathrobe on do some vacuuming some dishes

whatever slice of cabbage uh this is from ned doheny okay uh and he's not he's not the biggest artist back in the day but i remember i had this album because it was something i found in my parents garage when i thought i was kanye west sampling all kinds of weird albums uh but it ended up just being a real easy listener um this is ned doheny uh and the track is called Whatcha Gonna Do For Me? I can't believe Ned Doheny with a name like that didn't catch on as a rock. Yeah, like Kenny Loggins, Michael McDonald, and Ned Doheny. Ned Doheny. And I was like, damn, I thought maybe he had something to do with the Doheny,

like the powerful Los Angeles family, but not even think he was just like clever yeah oh wait no this just in I'm just looking at the uh Wikipedia article for Edward Doheny the oil tycoon uh he is in fact the grandfather of Ned Doheny so there's no such thing as yacht rock by your own bootstraps well the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for this morning. We'll be back to tell you what's trending this afternoon. And then on Monday to talk about Men in Black.

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