The Daily Zeitgeist - Olive Garden Voter Suppression, Real Eyes Realize CGI 07.24.26

Episode Date: July 24, 2026

In episode 2097, Jack and Miles are joined by super producer, Anna Hossnieh, to discuss… Zuck - What If We Tried NOT Freaking People The F**k Out About Sh*tty AI? Zoran Speech Is Very Popular? Republicans Are Using Olive Garden To Justify Vote-Stealing, Are Society’s “Eyes Adjusting” To CGI? And more! I’m a Mom of Two, and Olive Garden’s Returning $100 Pasta Pass Is My Ultimate Dinner Hack Olive Garden: "The Never-Ending Pasta Pass is only for use by the Passholder whose name is printed on the Pass." How the G.O.P. Turned Olive Garden Into a Voter ID Talking Point Olive Garden becomes unlikely face of voter ID fight after restaurant's policy goes viral FOXX on Voter ID: Heck, you even need to present a photo ID to utilize the Olive Garden’s never ending pasta pass. White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson: "...that's weird, Olive Garden takes pasta pass security more seriously than Democrats take election security." Top Republican rages at needing a photo ID for Olive Garden pasta but not on voting day Scalise: "Anybody that gets on an airplane has to show a picture ID to vote. Nowadays, if you want to go to Olive Garden and get unlimited pasta, you gotta show a picture ID. This isn't complicated stuff." The SAVE Act: An attempt to restrict voting rights What Does Olive Garden’s Never-Ending Pasta Have to Do With Voting Rights? Diners furious at Olive Garden after ‘Never-Ending Pasta Pass’ sale went off the rails Secrets That Olive Garden Doesn't Want You To Know Olive Garden’s ‘pasta passes’ for sale on eBay for as much as $4,500 Olive Garden says no way to $500 unlimited pasta passes on EBay LISTEN: Cafe by TusabeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You know, John Ossoff? Uh-huh. He's, Trump is trying to, like, create a new nickname for him because, you know, he's running in Georgia. And so look at John Ossoff. No.

So looking at him, this is what he said recently about him. He goes, he had a speech in, uh, in Georgia goes, I fought Ossoff before, as you know,

and we won, had a great success against this guy. He reminds me of, Pinky Herman. Did you see Pinky Herman? Pinky Herman? Pinky Herman? What a timely reference.

What the hell? I love that he went big. He said Pinky Herman. And then, but what's funny is he got it. He got it right later on. This one's going to stick. I call him peewee Herman. I call him.

He goes, if the new one sitting Pinky Herman, he goes, I call him peewey Herman. He's a peewee, Herman. Herman lookalike. Okay. Wow. He calls him. So he, so actually Trump

calls him peewee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder in his mind, he's like, everybody knows Pinky Herman. You may know him Pinky Herman. You might know Pinky Herman.

You might know Pinky. But famously, I know him as peewee. Yes, yes, yes. I named him Peewee Herman. A lot of people don't know that. Used to be known as Pinky.

People called him the great basketball player, Mayor Jordan. I call him Mayor Jordan or his heerness. Just me. Pinky Herman is such a, like, mobster name from the 1950s. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Pinky Herman also sounds like a thing, like, if you, if, like, the one white kid at an all-black high school get called, they're like, what a Pinky Herman? This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. The Dream of the 90s is alive in podcast form.

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You probably know me from NYPD Blue, The Longest Yard, or Spike Lease Black Klansman. And on my new podcast, delivering happiness with Nick Tatourl, I deliver pizza to a new guest. I've shared a slice with everyone from Seth Rollins. What are you doing my belt? To Bill Burr. I don't think I've ever met somebody so exactly out of their mind as I am. And now we even have more great guests. coming up, including the great John

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This is a production of iHeartRadio, as a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new non-news history version of the Daily Zekeyes dropping each Monday morning. where you do a deep dive into the zeitos through the lens of a different icon. Last week we did Bjork.

That's my impression of Bjork. She sings like this. Killing it. I've already forgotten everything about that. David Lynch is this week's episode coming up on Monday. The dude. The Dutorino. The Pope of Dope.

Does he ever call himself that or that was just the guy he's based on? Anyways, we're talking the Balsk. Get your best. Balscon, go polish up on your, uh, your Lebowski-ness. Uh, it's a fun episode. Looking forward to y'all hearing that one. These are the episodes that drop on Monday with icon in the title. You can go check it out. They have a slightly different logo. Uh, it is Friday, July 24th, 2026. It is shout out, Austin, Misako, Yoshki, Cameron, Brandon, and all my other cousins, but it's National

Cousins Day. Oh, okay. Shout to all the cousins. Also, shout on another icon we covered. It's Amelia Earhart Day. Oh, hey. It's National Tequila Day. And we haven't covered tequila as an icon, but we should think about it.

I mean, I'd imagine you could probably connect a lot of terrible decisions. Like somewhere in someone's biography. Oh, yeah. And then off that tequila bender. Tequila. Thank you, Anna. And National Marine Week. Shout out Marine Life.

Shout out marine life. Yeah. You know? We've been brought with, dude, I touched a sea cucumber this week. C cucumber? Wasn't a sea cucumber? Yeah, it was a Cic cucumber. How you say, cucumber?

Cucumber. In English, in Spanish, cucumber? No, it's not. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm Elaria Baldwin, and I'm from Espania by way of Massachusetts, the Commonwealth. What else do we do? We saw Manatee. We saw some green turtles.

which we learned were green because that's their fat content. Because they ate a lot of algae. Yep. That gives them the fat to make them green. Bullies of the ocean. They're the bullies of the sanctuary. The sanctuary.

The little nature sanctuary. They also, they are in a separate enclosure. And as they were feeding the sharks. Someone might be listening to this show for the first time. We're in the Bahamas. This is the Daily Zich guys.

We're in the Bahamas. This is the Daily Zikeis. We're in the Bahamas. This is the Daily Zygai guys. We're in the Bahamas, and we got to go see this little nature sanctuary. There's a part of the pool where you can swim up and look in at sharks and sea turtles, and the sea turtles are in a separate enclosure from the sharks. And I assumed, like an idiot, that it was so that the sharks didn't eat the sea turtles.

No, they have nurse sharks. They're not a threat to the turtle. Sea turtles are the ones that they said, you're not stuck in there with the sharks. they're stuck in here with us. Because apparently they just eat all the food. They eat all the food. Whop-ass? They're really fast, apparently.

There's my, yeah, I love a turtle. Turtle. Love marine life. One of my favorite Jamie Loftus facts that she shared with the world from her research is that the turtle, turtle scene with Dana Carvey in that movie Master of Disguise was filmed on 9-11 after 9-11. had happened. Dirtle. He had to summon that performance

after watching the towers come down. Something slightly haunted behind his eyes. Yeah. He had to be like, let's push through guys. Wow. Anyway, Jamie Loftus.

Get out of a chemistry test. It's amazing. You're a little relieved. You're a little thankful. Yeah. Well, let's see. Who am I?

I'm Jack O'Brien, a.k. Don't trust a fart. A tiny little fart. You guys don't really understand. Because if you trust a fart, a tiny little fart, it might go off and kill your pants. That one courtesy of New Chris,

in reference to the Taco Bell lettuce, explosive diarrhea story. Thank you for keeping it alive, listeners. To achy-breaky heart having a real run right now in the Discord. And I will say it is a bit of kismet. It is a bit of national share consciousness because we got a, we got an icon coming up who interacts with achy, breaky heart in an interesting way.

And also David Lynch interacted with Billy Ray Cyrus. Billy Ray Cyrus. Billy Ray Cyrus blamed David Lynch for breaking up his family. He's like, David Lynch had never brought me out to Los Angeles, to Holly Weird. My Lee never would have become famous and started smoking pot. Wow. And my wife would have never left me.

Yeah, yeah. I love that. That's like similar to the Italian Charlie Kirk artist. Like everybody's so cheap. It's like, yeah, it's everybody else, right? Yeah, it's everybody else's fault. It was David Lynch. Yeah, sure, sure.

Also, he was in a action movie called Radical Jack the year before he was in Mulholland Drive. So I'm not going to blame David Lynch. Have you seen Radical Jack? That feels like something you'd say out of like name loyalty? I have the DVD for Radical Jack somewhere. in a box and I had it throughout my 20s trying to get a nickname started and it didn't work out unfortunately.

Oh, dude, what's that? What's that DVD on the show right there? Do you want to pull that on that? That's kind of crazy. That would be like a cool nickname for somebody. That kind of looks like me on the cover, huh? Hmm. Weird.

Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, aka Secret Asian man. Secret Asian man. Zach Morris is part Asian. And so is Miles. That's pretty cruel. Shout out to Ty Torres on that one.

I used to actually think Secret Agent Man was Secret Asian Man, which is ironic. Is that not a, is there not a fake song? Like a parody song? Oh, you know what I'm thinking of the book of misheard lyrics that I had when I was a kid called, Excuse me while I kissed this guy. Yeah, I remember that one. It had a picture or a cartoon of Jimmy Hendricks kissing somebody. on the cover, kissing a man.

Like a drawing, right? Yeah. Yeah, I remember that book. Yeah. I was... Urban Outfitters book section. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like my bread and butter.

I love dumb joke books like that. Anyway, Ty Torres, Secret Agent Man, also shouting out the... On latter-day, acknowledged Asian icon, Zach Morris. Yeah. Well, Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the original day one super producer

of the Daily Zikeas, many of the first-rate podcasts on this network, such as this is important Las Culturistas. You've heard her on a streaming corner on this show. She is the mind behind the iconic phrase. That's prestige casting. TM, trademark. It's Ana Hosdie.

Ana. Hey. All right. Hey. I woke up just for that. I literally had my eyes. Been trying. Yeah.

Guys, we're basically holding together with cellophane tape and rope. Just trying to get through this. This is our last day, Bahamas week. This is the final episode. Literally about to catch a plane out the Bahamas. Yeah. Just want to thank Bahamara again for having us for, you know, second rate podcast. We were receiving first rate treatment. It felt odd. I was like, no, this surely can't be for us. I just kept apologizing to everybody. Yeah. I'm so sorry. I know, I know. Shout out to Bree, who's been engineering all these episodes. Yeah. Shout out Cuevo. From me, those who I saw at the resort at the high limit table.

High limit table. I told Jack this. He sat at the high limit table and he was trying to get chips. So he brought his cash and had a clear garbage bag and just dumped a bunch of cash on the table. That's for show. That was for you. That was for an audience of you. I was like lurking in a bush.

Like, oh, my God. It's so quivo. That's so quavo. My favorite sitcom. That's so quavo. shout out to super producer Justin who woke up super early this morning

on the West Coast to be here to listen to us do a secret agent man this is the episode it's Friday it's Friday it's Friday so Anna we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell listeners a couple of things we're talking about

today are we going to check it with Mark Zuckerberg? He's like, enough with the hate. This is the thing we're seeing with like the DSA. This is the thing where it's like they see some, they see people reacting to a thing in a certain way. In the case of, you know, socialist candidates, they're reacting to it in a way where they're like,

I kind of am attracted to that. In the case of AI, they're like, I kind of don't like that. And the powers that be, the mainstream media are like, we need to make an effort to educate people about this because they're stupid and we just need to need to jingle our keys in a certain direction to make them understand that AI is good for them. So Mark Zucker, they got Zuck on the case.

He's desperate, dude. He's trying to make it work. And I think the apocalyptic stuff isn't working. So maybe he's going the other way. Yeah. Optimism. What if AI was your friend? I, as a person who has totally,

normal interactions with people understand friends. Yeah, that's why I like to displace people from a Hawaiian island so no one can look me in the eye ever. I like friendship to be turned into an online commodity. That's kind of what I made possible.

On the other side of that, we'll talk about that Zoron speech that was very popular for some reason that we can't understand. We're going to talk about why the Republicans have talked about Olive Garden like eight times since they've been back in a session.

We are going to talk about whether society's eyes are adjusting to CGI. If you look at the movies that have tanked this summer versus the ones that have done well, there does seem to be a pretty bright line that the ones that are doing well are practical effects and the ones that are tanking like Mandalorian and Supergirl and shit like that. Namely, probably most explicitly, live action Moana are heavily CGI. Sure. In a way that,

so there's a lot of theories going around. Jason Parzian had a good video about that, basically saying society's eyes have adjusted. Like, that is one thing AI has done. It's like created enough slop that people are just like, yeah, I don't, like, this looks like shit to me now. Yeah, yeah, right, right. Anyways, all of that, plenty more.

But first, Super Producer Ana Hosni, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I was talking to you about this yesterday, but I was looking up how Matt Damon had a female stunt double in the Odyssey. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. Her name is Devin Dalton. Devin Dalton. I haven't seen the movie, but I guess,

there's scenes where he goes up against some giants. And so she was used because she's shorter than him, obviously, in those scenes to further force the perspective of the height difference. But also apparently she's like really buff because Matt Damon was really impressed by her arms. And I was like, he's like, can we get her for all the scenes? Yeah, he got to. His quote is. That sounds like a terrible pickup line where he's like, your arms are amazing.

He described Dalton as having the greatest arms I've ever seen. And recall being stunned by her muscular build when they first met the catering tent. Just so emasculated, he was like, hey. To be like the person who doubles for me in a movie has the most amazing arms I've ever seen does suggest. I would feel good. Yeah. That would be the sort of compliment that I would never pay myself. It was like a running joke and only murders in the building, like as a way.

way to like make fun of Steve Martin's character that his stunt double was a woman Jane Lynch. That was like the whole thing. It was like making fun of him like he's not even like a man isn't even needed to be his stunt double. He's not a woman to do it instead. So I don't know. I just thought it was silly. Especially at that age. It's hard to tell the difference, you know. Yeah. But I thought this was funny. We seen it this weekend? Oh, I'm going to try and see it as soon as I land in the dirty jurors. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, did you hear the Cinerama Dome? Being saved by Almo Draft House in Sony? Almo Draft House.

And Sony, they're taking it over in the old arc light. So that section by our office will be. I feel like that story has happened a couple times. But like this time's true. Yeah, because there was a rumor Tarantino was going to get involved. But now the-Tarantino got the Vista, right? Yeah, but the Almo draft house is now like we're stepping into the Cinerama dome. This is a famous theater on Sunset Boulevard right by our offices.

Nice. And we like Alma? You could watch 70-millimeter films there. Yeah, it's where I saw. Weren't they like sort of union busting for a minute there? I think so. Almo. Yeah, yeah.

Aren't they all? They all do. I don't say that to be like, I'm celebrating the business, but more to be like that huge landmark that basically died during COVID, like lockdowns. Because it's just been chilling there. No, you're right. I mean, like movie theaters famously don't like union. So that's okay, I guess.

That's okay, guys. And yet we still go. Yeah. And we still go. Or else are we going to see our 77 millimeter. It's just weird. This is a crazy thought I just had, but like heartbreak feels good in a place like that sometimes. You know what I mean?

They're not being consistent with that line at AMC, I've noticed. The last couple of times I went, she didn't do it when we saw. I don't know what line you're talking about. Disclosure. It's so stupid. What can you talk about it? I'll tell you one thing I think is underrated. Yeah.

You're dang tattoos. You keep getting cool tattoos. You're covered with really cool tattoos. tattoos. Thanks, Dad. Okay. What do I find underrated? You know, actually, I've had a bit of a come around is the gin martini. I used to drink a gin martini when I was younger. I used to be very into gin, gin and tonics, gin martinis, just drinking gin like a sicko. Beef eater out the bottle. On my back and a bus stop. I had a strong gin come up growing up. But then I like really switched later in life to vodka martinis.

Something happened to you in Bahamara, huh? I'm back on the gin, baby. Back on the gin, baby. Can you tell from my, like, truly poor energy right now that I've clearly been back on the gin all week? Back on the gin, folks. I've been on, I've drank so much gin. I've drank a lot of, I've drank a lot this week.

But, yeah, the gin martinis, well. It didn't like you drank a normal amount. Yeah, that's, I mean, I feel like the, I think the, For what I would normally do at home, I'm not usually drinking this much. I'm not having a peanut colada at news usually. I was kind of impressed. I mean, this is, don't listen to me as somebody who used to be a problem drinker. I'm like, you guys need to pick it up over here.

I was hanging out with you and your kids. I'm not going to be like pounding drinks with your children. And then we got to like work. And then it's like, yeah. Yeah. But I also. Hangovers don't feel good in a place like this. I've been maintaining a steady drink.

all day, though, because of the lounge has wine, like I've been getting pinocoladas at the beach. Yeah. You know, it's... At aloham. They gave me champagne at the spot. Like, it's just like, look, I'm just... Yeah, champagne at the spot. Don't worry about it. Oh, my

God. What if I brought my own? I'm just saying, like, it's been, I've just stayed, I've maintained it. I found a cup of alcohol in my shower. Which I'm not proud of. It was wine. It's not like it was... It was wine, but still like, I was like,

why is this in my shower? This is back home in New York? No, this was yesterday. Oh, okay. This was our shower yesterday. I went in the morning to my shower and said, why is there a glass of wine in here? I'm not the best person to the...

Chardonnay. That seems very normal. Anyway, anyway, back, gin martini, is my right? I was a big fan of the shower beer in my day. Yeah, shower beer makes sense. shower chardonnay is a problem. Shower denet.

Shower dene? Shower d'ne? Honey, you're hiding from your kids. There's a bar of soap in the just the funniest character as a like, no, this is my shower today. Oh no.

Oh, dear. It has drinking wine in the shower. In one of our meetings, say like, shartanay. Shartanay? Yeah, maybe. Is that something? Is that what you're just asking?

Is that something? What do you think? Shartanay? Shartanay. Is that good? You like to? Yeah. Bree's face just that was like, are you guys speaking to me right now? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's our culture expert, Brie. Cut it. Didn't make that one. Then knock it off.

Yeah. You need people like this around you or else you're going to completely get untethered from reality. Yeah. You start saying shartanay on a podcast. Yeah. If you've noticed. We have been recording around people for the first time in a while. Or the live episodes, even, I'm always like,

Jesus Christ, what are we doing? Oh, like when it's not our cocoon of our normal crew. And I'm not just in front of my computer being like, I'm fucking killing. When there's an audience. Anna. Yeah. Anna. What's something you think is overrated?

No. Overrated. Drinking too many gin martite. No, I'm just thinking, what is overrated? I had something, but I'm going to real, like, I can't even speak. I said, I'm going to be real.

I'm a bit real with you. I can't even speak anymore. You know, sometimes that, that AC chill you get. When you're in a warm location and you're going back and forth between the heat and the AC, like,

of AC. It's so weird when you're like, I'm freezing. all of a sudden. I was sweating before. Yeah, but I'm like, that AC is not for you. Yeah.

That AC is for the people who have been sitting at the tables. Do you think it's a real thing where my mom would be like, this is how you get sick. My mom was like, I'm going to get sick in here on the AC. I'm like, more like, I think that's your old boomer take

because you do not grow up with AC. Shouldn't go to bed with wet hair. You shouldn't go outside of wet hair. You're going to get sick. Easy. You shouldn't sit under an AC. next machine what are they called air conditioner with white hair machine yeah yeah AC Slater yeah no I just like was getting really cold in in the hotel and I was like this is so

silly that's how you know we're on island's time yeah we don't believe in air conditioning I'm like god it's so cold you guys it's like open a like literally just open your balcony door and you will be warm again you're a son child you need to be out in the sun yeah my grandfather didn't believe in air conditioning so I see We would stay with him during the summer. Well, back then it didn't matter. There was no heat. There was no apocalyptic climate change.

But my mom is the same way because, you know, growing up in like post-World War II Japan, like, there was no AC at all. Yeah. So she's like, use the Uchila, which is like a hand fan. Yeah. So like I remember when in the summers, I go to my grandma's house, they weren't. They didn't even have, like, they had an AC, but they're like, we're not using that. Use the hand fan. Yeah.

My grandfather had a, like the little temperature. units purely decorative. Not attached to anything. Why have a decorative AC unit at that point? Well, he just hadn't used it and had had the house for like 30 years. Oh, so it came with the house. Yeah, it came with the house.

Absolutely not. Rip it off the wall. I had to create a hack of just like soaking a bath towel and wringing it out and just laying that on top of me as a blanket to sleep. Classic. Easy. All right.

Well, that's been takes from the silent generation. Gin is underrated. AC overrated. You're right. That's how you know I've been on the island for too long. I've lost my fucking mind.

Maybe we're on the island from a lost. What's the M-night Shyamalan thing where like time, time moves differently? Oh, where the beach? The beach. Oh, man. The old person. People did age or didn't age.

I forget. They did age. That was the whole thing. I will say, though, like, the drinks on this resort are really something else, man. They had like this strawberry margarita that took me out. This pinocalada

that took me out. I'm just talking about frozen drinks that are just taking me out. It's also funny how like chill they are about us drinking in the ocean. Because I get, I was, my wife took a daffery into the lazy river yesterday. It was great. And that's incredible. I know.

I was like, you can't do that. She was like, Watch me. She's like, shut up. And then I looked around and like three other people had beers in the lazy room. Like, all right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I guess that's, yeah. I was kind of tipsy when we went into the wave pool the other day. Yesterday? Was that yesterday? Oh, yeah, yeah. The waves almost took us. Because at one point I was like really viving. Then I looked around me and I was like, I'm surrounded by children.

Yeah. Should I be this drunk in a lazy river? Or not lazy river. The wave pool, like surrounded by children. My husband is calling out to me. No, come back. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, bitch.

Yeah, my shot. It's like a real problem, man. You're in the Miami Vice. You're pretty good. They miss a collada and a decorier. The red and the white. Pain killer. They're just like, girl, get out of the water.

Some of get a yellow burn of coconut. What? I mean, these are like truly island problems. You're just like losing your mind after a while. Where's that guy who had the pineapple? And then he's going to put the Bahama ma'amah in there. Bahamamana. Bahamana.

Your child just looking at. You're like, Oh my gosh. Dad. What's wrong with him? Should we take a quick break? Yeah. All right.

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Hey, has anybody done that yet? Is that something? I don't know, actually. Chartine. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Is that something? All right. Swish.

Throw it down, big man. All right. I'm sorry. Continue. What do you want to talk about AI? I'm talking about Bill Walton. We didn't record the Bill Walton thing earlier. I'm terrible at my job.

I'm terrible at my job. Before we started recording, there was an anecdote. I was with my dad when he ran into Bill Walton. How old were you? I was like in my 20s. Oh, okay. Yeah. My dad knew Bill Walton.

My dad worked in basketball for new listeners. and Bill Walton said, how are you doing Jim? I'm like, great, you know, things are great. I can't complain. He was like,

how about you, Bill? And Bill said, awful, I'm terrible at my job. And this was when he had just taken over as a commentator on the national news. And I think about it every day.

I'm terrible at my job. It was a time when everybody was kind of making fun of him, but like the internet didn't exist really. He couldn't have really known that. He probably getting direct feedback. Yeah. Hey, Bill, you're kind of terrible at your job. The director from the truck is like,

Hey, Bill, come on me. Can we try it a little less terrible next time? Hey, any notes for that one? Be less terrible at your job. You're bad at it. All right. Don't know how you got this and we're live. I'm going to go to sleep, standing up in my hotel room.

Is that what he does? No, it just feels like a thing. Bill Walton gets terrible news. goes to his hotel room, turns the lights off, just stands like a horse. Huge fan of psychedelics, that guy,

you know, so we can tell with that headband, dude. Oh, yeah. All right, let's talk about, uh, Mark Zuckerberg.

Mark Zucker nerd. Uh, yeah, he's got, we were just talking about like the, you know, last AI thing. Oh my God.

It's broke out of containment and it's hacking and, yeah, but, but, you've seen the latest thing they're worried about? What?

China too good. Oh, China, China AI, too good. Too bomb. that two bomb, they're like, they're doing it without spending trillions of dollars. What the fuck is going on? They're training it on ours.

I did have that question for Ed Zittron when he came on. I was like, is it possible that AI could be, like there's a version of AI that doesn't burn down Memphis that is like used for useful things? And what we're seeing is just the fact that the American economy, like we've seen what this version of hypercapitalism does to industries that used to be good, imagine an industry that is starting in this fucking swamp water that we live in, you know? Like, and, you know, is there a possibility? Like, I saw a poll that said that Europeans are like more favorable about AI and like other countries are more favorable. Maybe outside of this like, you know, shitty environment where

everything is just used to funnel as much wealth as possible to the wealthy. Maybe it could be, maybe there's a theoretical possibility. And so China's introduced models where they just like stole shit from the American models and are like, we're going to make this open source and everybody can use it. And the AI executives are like, no, stop it. It's not fair. Yeah, it's not fair. Sue them.

Well, yeah, so right now, I guess Meta just brought this ad that's more preaching AI optimist some. This is what is being said. Quote, some people will have you believe AI will make us less connected. That's just going to leave us behind. We couldn't disagree more.

Call us optimists. Call us streamers. Just as we've always done, we're betting on people. And then in a post, Zuckerberg posted, quote, meta has always believed in giving people the power to share, connect, and shape your world in ways you want.

As we enter this next wave with AI, we continue to believe the future is for everyone. We're focused on giving every person the tools to reach your full potential and making sure the benefits of technology are distributed to everyone. And then it goes on to be like, hey man, look, quote, we bet on people when we connected you to the ones you lost touch with. And again, when we connected you to the ones you couldn't be near, 22 years and 3.5 billion people later, we're doubling down because while technology will change, our intention behind it never will. And you're like, okay, so this ad still does fuck all to address

people's actual concerns about like, I don't know, safety, the environment. Right. No explanation. Again, it's just like completely assuming everybody's an idiot. Like there's also this cloud ad or Claude, whatever, however the fuck you pronounce that. Cloud. Cloud. Cloud.

Cloudy with a chance of meatballs. There's an ad where it's just like shows a house on fire. And then it's like, people are worried about AI. And then it just like starts showing increasingly sunnier images. And then it's like, but it's going to be good. And it's like no explanation for like how this is not going to make the world a worst place. They're just like, ding, ding, ding.

It's just, they're all just like, they're all just like, they have like this thin veneer of positivity. Yeah. With no explanation. Yeah. They really, they're relying on the whole, you know, long time notion that technology is bettering the world and bringing us further into the future. Yeah.

But without acknowledging all the, you know, more drastic size. that AI needs to operate. So it's like we're just sort of, we're fucked, you know. No, I think, I trust, I think Zuckerberg, let's see where Zuckerberg. Yeah, let's see what Sam Altman's cooking up. Then I will just say, so, goodbye, I'm off to have gym.

No, that's really, I also like, yeah, the meta of it all just not even acknowledging, like, 22 years, 3.5 billion people, It's like. Genocides, we've helped spur on with our misinformation. Videos we've like over. Insurrections. Live stream violence.

We've sold all your information. What do you want? Yeah. Hey, we're just doubling down on that. Meon Mar. You're like, what? Yeah. Does this add four people in the year 2008?

Yeah. What you know us for is connecting people, right? Right. Forget all the rest. Don't worry about that. Stop Google. Stop Googling. Stop it.

You don't even know how to spell Rohingya. Can't actually Google because now Google's AI. So there. So you can't even look up Rohingya. All right. The other thing that just feels very much like that some ideas seem to be escaping containment. And containment being like the world of mainstream media and mainstream politics and And one of those ideas seems to be just everything that Zoran is doing.

He had said he was looking into the legality of arresting Benjamin Nangyahu. He ultimately made a speech that was like direct address to camera being like, so apparently it's illegal, but like we would and the U.S. should. And it's a sort of thing that wouldn't have gotten by anybody with a political, political advisor, and it seems to be extremely popular. Yeah, I mean, because he was like, look, we've been looking at what legal avenues we have to, or authority would have to enforce a warrant. We don't.

The federal government does. So I encourage them to do that. And then he's like, but I like, I was just like, towards end, he's like, quote, I want to be equally clear. Benjamin Netanyahu is not welcome in New York City, nor is any other war criminal at large. Yeah. Yeah. Just very plain English respecting people.

Like, he's like, so here's what I've said before, and I'm going to double down on the thing I said, so you know I mean it. Right. Essentially. Whereas the other, like, mainstream, you know, there, like, with regards to the AI thing, it's like spending billions of dollars, putting happy images together to try to create this, like, smoke screen that I just feel like everybody can see through. Yeah. And then, like, people, you can just break through it by it. Like, it is, I'm more optimistic now that I probably was like one or two years ago, because it does seem like some people have discovered this one trick that doctors and,

you know, mainstream politicians don't want you to know about, which is just like telling the truth and using plain language and just not moving off of that when they try to threaten you and put you on, like, secret enemies of the state lists like to have with Zoran. It would be cool if we could like citizens arrest and Yahoo. Yeah, you can't do that for the international criminal for the ICC. Police Academy. International citizens arrest.

Paying citizens arrest. Yeah, but I mean like to that end, right? Like there's like all this push to change the opinions or like present AI in a different way. And there was a Wall Street Journal report too that was talking about that Israel had like set aside $700 million budget to quote change their public opinion around the world. That was their 2026 budget, and like 50 million of it is going to, like, U.S. firms, like, one of them being ran by Brad Parscale, the Trump guy, which I'm like, dude, you are absolutely rinsing them.

Brad Parscale doesn't know anything about it. He knows how to shit post. He got fired like halfway through the campaign. So you're going to, but again, like, it's this whole idea of like, okay, we're going to try and just use propaganda to sort of change the opinion when you can't use propaganda to sort of change people's, like, understanding of. humanity. Yeah.

You know, it's like, you know, the best thing would be is to cease all of this. Yeah. It's, we've just been inundated with marketing for so long that I just think that people are immune to it at this point. And like they, they're not changing the game plan. Right. No. They're doing.

They're trying to have their stolen land and need it too. Yeah. Like, they're not, they're not evolving with our opinion. Right. They're just trying to be like, well, we're going to stay fixed. And maybe we can just do a bunch of light shows. to convince people that what is happening is not. And I think that just, again,

speaks to this disconnect of like the three worlds we're living in simultaneously. It's as if they haven't seen inception, dude. Netanyahu announces inception technology. Like, it's right in front of you, dude. You have to intercept us for us to start falling in line. I'll get you the inception machine. That is the dream.

That is the dream of marketing. that out loud. I think I should have given them that. Cut to us being incepted by Israel. It was just bra-d-b-b-b-b-l-b-l-l-l-w-l-h-l-h. I hear-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-hephits.

It's the new saxophones. Let's talk about Olive Garden, real quick. Last week, Olive Garden revived their never-ending pasta-pass promotion. God, they love alliteration. Yeah. Giving 10,000. lucky customers a special VIP card

granting unlimited access to never-ending pasta bowl menu for 13 straight weeks at a cost of just $100. This seems like this deal is too good. This deal is too crazy. 13 straight weeks. 10,000 people 13 weeks, $100

unlimited pasta. I'm sorry, this does seem like a piece of sponsored content. It's not, it just doesn't It doesn't make sense. Think of the marinara you could eat with that. It's like if the Willy Wonk, if there had been 10,000 Willy Wonka golden tickets, I know this does probably go back to my Marinara. But you actually have to, the pasta pass is separate VIP card from the Marinera VIP Pass.

Yeah, yeah. You have to each. Oh, you're paying for that. It's like printer ink where they like give you the printer for $10 and then the printer ain't $100. No, Cion. You're not printing. This is for never ending pasta like noodles, loose dry noodles.

Yeah, sorry, bro. Yeah, yeah. want sauce? You need a sauce pass. I could see that make you finally snapping. God damn it, I've got enough of this world. That's not.

Enough of this world. Falling down with Michael Douglas, but it's Jack because he had to pay for mariner at all. Anyway, the corporation finally does a cool thing, you know, is like... I mean, it is nice, obviously, like, for the amount of food you can consume

for that much great. but to be more... That's too much. But people are like, are they flipping these cards? So this is the issue. Because we live in hell, this has become a major political talking point.

So they've had to make these passes because they've done this in the past. These passes were being sold on eBay for like thousands of dollars. Right. Because that is the value. Again, this is what I'm saying. This is too good a deal.

$100 for 13 weeks. of unlimited pasta? Like, what? What are you talking about? You could feed a town. It's too much, too good deal. It's like early movie pass. We're like,

this doesn't make sense, although they're limiting it. They're limiting it, so it doesn't actually completely, you know, bankrupt. So they've had to make the pass as non-transferable, and pass holders must prevent a valid photo ID along with the pass at the time of the ordering.

So, first of all, so much for when you're here, your family. Oh, your family? Not him. That ain't Hospitaliano. Oh, hell yeah, dog. But since this deal coincided with Trump's election conspiracy theory speech, right-wing accounts started claiming that Olive Garden takes pasta security more seriously than Americans

take elections. And because they're just utterly jam-packed, full of shit, just like that, that's like, okay, I can see how that's like a good tweet or, like, talking point that would, like, be fun for some Republicans to retweet. It's like become a major talking point for the Republican Party. Oh, it's just like the faux outrage. Like, oh, like the same way when like Trump be like, you got to show your ID to buy groceries.

Yes. There's always some dumb thing he tries to connect to daily life. And it's like, they got better security when you're trying to buy tangerine. Yes. And it, so they're like, it distracts from the fact that it like also just that you give it to seconds of inspection and it like doesn't make any sense. The Save America Act isn't about security. It's about disenfranchising tens of millions of American voters because you don't get it. You can't vote just by

showing an ID. You have to like your photo ID like most states photo ID does not give evidence of residents. So there are only five states of citizenship. Yeah, only five states. issue photo IDs that indicate American citizenship. So people would have to show passports and birth certificates. So the thing they're actually drawing attention to is the opposite. Like, no, Olive Garden is actually doing it the way that we currently do our elections, which is just with, you can get it with the driver's license. Do them?

Yeah, cool. Great. Also, it's not trying to do away with fraud. The reason that they're having to, ask for ID is because of capitalism, you know? Like, because people are selling the thing. It's, yeah. Well, and also, like, to the Save Act, like, the House just passed a version of, like,

a reconciliation bill that has some of that stuff in there. And again, like, the Senate, Republicans, like, look, dude, we keep telling you, there's no votes for this. Yeah. Like, you have budget hawks in here who think it's way too much money. You have other people who are, like, it's not enough money for the military. also I don't know where Mitch McConnell is so like I can only lose like one person

and I'm actually counting John Federman on our side for the math year yeah yeah so it's also Olive Garden this deal is not like a paragon of efficiency one Olive Garden employee told the press that they have no idea how it's going to work when the passes are activated at the end of August yeah and I doubt any fucking server

at Olive Garden is going to bother to be a hard ass about it. They get the pass, whatever, dude. Fucking let it rip. I also just love this anecdote because everything becomes 9-11 now. The way the story, Olive Garden devotees are suggesting that there were

never any pasta passes available at all, and the company just faked the whole thing for free publicity. So they have like truthers. Miles Tamboli would never. Olive Garden never ending pasta pass denials. Come on down. where you're going to be family,

but there's no unlimited pasta. I'm sorry, it's... Be realistic. You don't even need that much pasta. We don't have that kind of money. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we will ask the question, are society's eyes adjusting to CGI?

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that he has some diva demands. Yep, yep, that he was out here. He was like, hey, man, can you take this military chopper to get my kid to golf, golf practice? That'd be pretty cool. Yeah, basically making his poor planning, everybody else's emergency. Yeah, exactly. And it sounds like now, Jades will roll.

J.D. Vance has suspended a Secret Service agent suspected of leaking his diva demands to the press. Oh, who could have saw that coming? Amazing. That's certainly, I'm sure that's good for morale. What, I mean, it's funny because, like, for the people that, like, did the reporting on that, they're like, I feel like they're telling me this because they're trying to raise this as an issue and it's not being heard. So the last resort is to make it a news story. Sure. and then just being like,

okay, well, you're suspended guy. Yeah. And using the full force of like the intelligence apparatus to probably like hunt this down to like figure out who it was. All right.

But enough about politics. Let's talk Hollywood. The Hollywood reporter recently published an article suggesting that audiences have been sending a clear message to filmmakers this summer. People want movies to look real. And they want movies that seem like they actually took effort to make,

which is, it makes sense. I mean, so like, in terms of evidence, right, Christopher Nolan's entire career. I literally knew you're about to bring up Christopher Nolan. Go ahead. It's, Anna, he's our greatest filmmaker.

Most of our conversations. He does practical effects. No, practical effects are incredible. I just think it's funny that we just can't stop talking about Christopher Nolan to save our lives. I just think it's funny that you think it's funny that we talk about him when he's our greatest filmmaker. But obviously The Odyssey is doing big business right now. You know, I'm finding that The Odyssey is getting, people either like it or love it or hate it. I have a friend who hated it. And I'm like, I've only heard like it to tepid liking it.

One person told me it was like the worst movie they'd seen in a long time. I was like, what is happening? Are you sure they didn't watch the Elon Musk-Grock version? You're like, why is Dave Portnoy in this? With Daisy Ridley. The casting of Dave Portnoy, a vaguely Dave Portnoyist guy whose face keeps changing. That approach from Elon Musk does become especially funny because people are specifically saying that they think the reason people want Theodicy and other Christopher Nolan movies is because they use practical effects. Other examples that I'm going to tear myself away from Christopher Nolan here for a second. Project Hail Mary highlighted old school techniques. They used a puppet instead of CGI for Ryan Gosling's alien sidekick.

Backrooms made a big deal about how they actually built those wacky sets, those wacky backrooms. And everything and obsession was done in camera. Yeah, they had no choice for that budget. They had $700,000. They only have $12. Well, then get more ketchup and mix it with water. this whole scene we did with construction paper. But then on the other side,

a bunch of CGI heavy blockbusters have flopped, including, like, at first, this seemed like just another, you know, here's an interesting thought piece, but by the end of, like, JM did the write-up on this, I am, like, sort of convinced that this is a major thing to look out for in terms of, like, determining whether a movie is going to succeed or fail. Like, The Mandalorian and Grogo directed, by John Favro, who's like the guy

who's famous for being like, yeah, we did the whole movie in a single like conference room that we just green screened out. Like he did the Lion King remake and the Mandalorian TV show is all done in a single trailer. Masters of the Universe,

Supergirl, all very CGI heavy. And Moana... Good Lord. Moana is... So 90% of the movie Moana is set outdoors. The whole thing was shot on sound stages in Atlanta for tax reasons.

There is a clip of the scene, You're Welcome. I just watched it. So Your Welcome is one of the most iconic, like Disney songs of the past couple decades. It should have been like

their whole focus is like nailing this scene. It looks like stepped on shit. It's like, it's going viral because people are like, look what they did. It looks like AI slop. It looks like AI flop. And that's what people are saying

is like, nobody ever liked bad CGI, but now the internet is just flooded with AI slop and so you kind of it puts you on, it puts you like on

the defensive when you watch stuff now because you're like, what is this? What is this? Yeah, we've like built a new muscle that's looking out for this bullshit and being like, well, this seems like shit. The biggest, as I watched that clip of The Rock trying to do any kind of choreography. His performance is part of the problem.

It's fucking awful, man. And like, the thing with animation is, like, you can ris the fuck out of your characters, dancing, having good facial expressions. He looks like a wrestler. Trying. Like, and he's so stiff. It looks like it is his first acting job.

And first time, like, dancing. Like, he's so stiff. I got to say, man. When I called out, I was like, it was before the live action Moana came. out. There were posters, blanketing LA, and one of them was the rock doing

his, like, yell. But like, it's like the still image where he's like, he's like out of his mouth wide open. It was like, he was like doing too much. I was like, there's something off. Like, the balance is off in this movie. And then you see the clip of your

welcome. Like, I don't know if you were able to see it on X, like, or on Twitter. It's, so his performance is terrible. The lighting is terrible. There's like these flowers floating through space that just, it

looks like, it looks like the, you remember legends of the hidden temple? Yeah, yeah, of course. Where like people would like go on green screens and like play a video game and you could tell, like it just looked like absolute shit. Like it looks like bad video game graphics.

Yeah. I mean, I think it's a combination, right? Because it's like the things you mentioned earlier aren't like dug up bottom of the barrel IP nonsense. So they're just been like, we're out of ideas, man. Make the computers do something fun with it. And so it's like that on top of like... I mean, I'll say the Odyssey is the original IP. There it is, man.

Actually, for me, it's the Bible. Well, actually, no, the Odyssey is older. No, the Odyssey is older. All right. For me, it's Homorabi's Code. There you go. That's Nolan's next movie. But yeah, I mean, so the...

Yeah, AI Slop has become so widely derided. Like, this is, and it's not being derided. It's not just like people being mean girls on the internet. It's being derided because it looks like shit. And it just like it doesn't work. And then this all kind of came to a boiling point when they released the Avengers Doomsday trailer as like the same week that the Odyssey came out. Oh, right.

And people were just like this looks, somebody said it looks like it'd been filmed in a cupboard. filmed in a cupboard is so stupid cutting cutting but yeah Jason Pargin frequent guest on this show has a TikTok video where he says that people's eyes have adjusted to this specific method of filmmaking

which he calls everyone is clearly in a green room method and I do think that is always something that when you go back I would talk about this a lot on the cracked podcast talking about the thing with where people's IQs have like been going up over time and people wonder like how that's possible when we're like reading less and doing things like that.

And I always point to when you look at the trailer for the original diehard versus the trailer for the much worse movie Die Hard 5 or whatever the fuck was called. Live for your diehard. Not even that one. I think maybe that is the one. The one where he goes to Russia. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Like the original diehard, they have to hold your hand as you go along.

They're like, John McLean is a cop who's in L.A. for a crisp. Right, right, right. And they, like, just tell you the whole plot as it's going through. And by the fifth one, there's no narrator. They're telling you what happened, what happened in, like, these, like, really fast cuts. They, like, have a sound cue where the sound, like, the song from the original diehard, like, plays in a moment as doors are opening to remind you of the first one. It's like

very complex math that you are just automatically doing because it's, we've been through like decades of like watching fast cutting like internet videos or MTV and stuff like that. So I think like there is just like

our brains are processing images and media so much faster and differently and like that's a thing you can't counterbalance. You can't change like, Once people have seen enough AI slop, it's just going to change the way their eyes see everything in a way that, like, Hollywood's not going to be able to get around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so you just have, they're just going to have to go back to fucking making good movies. Yeah, well, it's kind of like after like Jurassic Park came out. Yeah. Like, you'd look at stuff that came up before and you're like, oh, actually, this stuff looks like crap now that I've seen this. And with Jurassic Park, like, good balance of practical and computer, which I think is genius. Yeah, definitely. They were like, yeah, this is CGI. And everyone was like, whoa, CGI is amazing.

But it was like CGI in very specific moments mixed with like the sick triceratops. That was like on its side. That was just a giant puppet. Yeah. Build giant puppets. Also, I mean, this is actually kind of, I feel positive, optimistic about this because it does say that at the end of the day, like, people are valuing human craft, like an effort. more where they're like, uh, yeah, I mean, that looks cool to see like a spaceship, but like,

I don't know, man, like this massive shot that I can tell there's like a ton of people in it, and like they built all this stuff. Yeah. It kind of connects you for me, like as a kid was like the quote unquote magic of movies. It was like, dude, it's not just like this, all of this stuff comes together because of a huge effort from many people trying to make this thing look different. Yeah, it's like just, like even at a sublingual level, like our bodies are rejecting AI at some level. And they just still, they've been at it for decades now with CGI, and they still can't give it the same gravity that having actual people in a location has. And also, J.M. makes a really good point that it's also about the performances. Like, that performs by the rock. Yes, it sucked,

but it probably doesn't help that he's in a room by himself like in a costume pretending to be on a beach that isn't there in a wig whereas like maybe if he was in Hawaii like you know

do it like on a beach like these like intangible sort of things of like your environment that help I think also too the rock's just not this was just the dumbest idea to catch the rock I get that he did the voice

that's why he did it for the voice because you didn't have to on him to do all the other shit. But yeah, it's like that, there was that season of Netflix arrested development where they're like, we're bringing the whole cast back. Yeah.

But they can't be in a room together. And so everything is just everybody like vignettes and stuff. Doing vignettes, like basically a series of direct-to-camera reality TV shots. Why couldn't they be in a room together? Because it was like people were busy. Oh, God.

I thought they all hit each other, which I didn't. They weren't paying enough to be like, guys, we're putting that back. down, let's get it back to you. They're like, I can do it these weeks. Yeah, exactly. Great. I think it's interesting, like, every, you know, movie or film or TV show about the industry,

like, their way of, like, making fun of what the industry has become is, like, that actor or someone is complaining to their agent about, like, being, like, just hung up in front of a green screen for hours. Right, right, right. I mean, like, can we, someone bring me down? Yeah. Right, right, right. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think that sort of all goes to speak to the sort of majesty. of the fast and the furious franchise. Yes. Speak on that. Bring it back. They got people driving cars. There you go.

I don't think so, honey. So much so that we lost the lead actor because he loved driving cars so fast, man. All right. It was in his blood at that point. And that's practical. We're ending on that. And that is commitment to practical craft.

Superfrius, a producer, Anahoseney, wonderful being in studio with you. Sorry, I sort of faded at the end there. I started to really start zoning out and thinking about Moana. Yeah. Look, it's early. I got lost in the Moana talk a little.

I'm not even joking. I started to be like, there's a live action. And I started Googling the images. And you're like, oh, no. It's looking funny. Yeah. Anna, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I'm just at Hosni, Nia, H-O-S-N-I-E-H-H-H-H-H on Instagram.

If you want to follow me on there, that's really the only place I social media eyes. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know, I produce some other shows, but who cares? Yeah, is there a work of media you're going to enjoy? Yeah, I sent you guys this last night. I think it was last night, I met him in daytime, who knows? But that's all kind of a blur, you know what I mean?

Just pictures of our kids being really cute. The picture of Miles Tamboli? No, no, no, no. A teen reporter searched for his community in the Epstein files. The adults freaked out because this kid, Ben Mueller, he had an assignment for his journalism class and it was to tell a news story. So in the form of an extended Instagram slideshow. And he's from Marin, which is, you know, quite wealthy.

And so he, like, just assumed that his area probably had some ties to Jeff Epstein. Jeff Epstein, the financier. Yeah. The New York financier. Yeah, so he spent five hours going through the federal database with like links for, you know, cities around Marin. And he found thousands. Jesus. But like, yeah.

And so like, you know, he posted a story to his student-run publication and it was like a carousel slide show. And yeah, you know, more than. Citizen journalism, you know. Yeah. And I guess, you know, it got like 4,000 likes. The comments were like crazy. and yeah. Yeah.

Let's just say the adults at the community were not happy. I'm not into it. Please, no, please don't. So now there's sort of like a free speech sort of thing going on and, you know. And the kids are like, I'm just doing my homework, man.

Yeah. I just love it. You can find that on Wired. Do you want to go read more about it? I think that's such a funny flex to be like, Hey, man, watch it. Or I swear to God, I'll search your name in the goddamn files,

you're rich motherfucker. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you as their work in media? You've been enjoying. Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. If I'm talking about 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé, I'm talking about footy soccer on footy. Footy with Chris Martin and Jamel Johnson.

A work of media I like is this meme that was posted by at griff.b.b.com. It's the Dylan, you son of a bitch, meme, you know. going arm in arm on the Carl Weather's side, it says two-toed sloths. On the Arnold's side, it says me. And when their hands meet, it says, have eight white claws and sleep in a tree. Stupid. Good.

A good execution of a classic. Yep. A couple tweets I've been enjoying Grace at Grace Fish Love tweeted. I don't know. I think the elephant really ties the room together in reference to elephant in the room. And then Sophia Benoit, one follower, no dash tweeted. Christopher Nolan didn't have the balls to let the audience actually hear the siren song, parentheses, promiscuous by Nellie Furtado, featuring Timbalint. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien Blue Sky. Jack will be

the number one Instagram. Jack underscore O underscore Brian. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zikeyes. We're at the Daily Zykeyes on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it and there at the bottom. You will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, this is a track from the producer to Sabbe, who's, you know, like straddles, Mozambique and Togo. So the beats are very like Afro-Housy.

This track is called Cafe. this is just feeling like very much the environment we're in right now. So check this one. I was called Cafe by Toussabe, T-U-S-A-B-E, S-A-B-E, one word. All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zykeyes is a production of I-Hart Radio for more podcasts from My Heart Radio. Visit the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do up for us this week.

We are back on Monday with the The Dude episode of Iconograph and more. Podcasts about the news. We will be no longer in paradise. Nope. We'll be on non-island time. Yep. Yep. It's bittersweet.

It's bittersweet. But again, thank you to Bahamar for having us. Thank you to Bree. Shout out Bree, who's been the newest member of the team. Bree, if you're ever out in L.A. or New York, you hit us up. That's right. We're taking you out. We're chilling.

we'll go have Mountain Dew we'll go to the Cinerama Don't have in and out all kinds of American things That's right All of America is the best American has to All of Garden In and Out Mountain Dew

70 millimeter film Well actually they got that here So anyway I would say also you have better seafood here Maybe we'll just come back and meet you here Bree Yeah we'll just do it that way But if you ever there

Please come back and we Yeah it's been a great week It's been very week It's been very sure special to do something like this. Should we give some more shout out. Should we shout out Nancy, who got us here? Shout out, Nancy.

Shout out Carlisle. Shout out his cute daughter, who we met briefly. Shout out Chris. That was in the building yesterday. Shout out, Bow, our tennis pro. Shout out Bo, the tennis pro. You know, shout out Luther. Cool.

Luther, all. Luther. His lemonade and his ice coffee. I got to go find Luther after this. You better. Wow. Who else? Who else can we shout out?

Your butlers. The butlers. Shout out the butlers. Yeah. Shout out my, mys. Yeah. At the Espa Spa. Okay.

Everybody. Everybody's been so great. Shout out Victor. Shout out Justin. Shout out Brian. J.M. Pallavi. Everybody who's just.

Andrew, who guested yesterday. Yeah. This is giving last episode of the show. It's last episode of the show in the Bahamas. That's right. Shout out the explorers club. Who knows? Who knows?

Shout out Kevin at the Flibingo K. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody. Key, Flamingo Key. Don't be out here sounding like a tour. Yeah, Kevin at the Flamingo key. Yeah. Great, great showman.

Great showman. Shout out Aqua, the flamingo who kept coming for Jack. Yeah. Just mugging, frame mugging Jack. Yeah. Jack's not the breast. No, I said I wasn't going to say his name. But they removed Aqua from the area because of you.

Yeah. I was like, damn, Jack, that's what that is. I was the best. I guess we can't have two Alphas. out. And it felt like one of those things you're like, damn, this dude seriously has a relationship with these. That's such a complicated.

Yeah. Like, you're like, oh, I thought it was fine. He's like, no, I was worn in Aqua before. Aqua knows what he did. I told Aqua not to do that. I told you. It was very funny. Kevin's relationship with the flamingos are friends.

Incredible. Yeah. He's not impressed. We'll see you next week. Bye. Bye. The Daily Zite Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long. Co-produced by Victor Wright.

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