The Daily Zeitgeist - Olympic Dance Off! ‘Euphoria’ Too Hot For Real Teens 6.26.19

Episode Date: June 26, 2019

In episode 421, Jack and special guest host Daniel Van Kirk are joined by Ridiculous History podcast's Noel Brown to discuss break dancing being provisionally approved for Paris 2024, the media 'Trump... slump,' rape accusations against Trump going unnoticed, Trump's verbal attack on Iran, NCAA refusing to pay their athletes, Lee Elementary creating a Lee-off, best ice cream shops per state, the hottest tattoo's on men with super producer Anna Hossnieh, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. BREAKING APPROVED AS ONE OF FOUR PROVISIONAL SPORTS FOR PARIS 20242. "Trump slump" hits big media3. Hideous Men Donald Trump assaulted me in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room 23 years ago. But he’s not alone on the list of awful men in my life.4. Trump says attack by Iran on anything American will be met with 'obliteration'5. WATCH: Shabazz Napier: "Some nights I go to bed starving"6. California Schools Face Potential NCAA Ban If Compensation Bill Passes7. Bruce Lee Elementary? Twitter weighs in on plan to rename Robert E. Lee schools8. The Best Ice Cream Shop in Every State9. The ‘Euphoria’ Teenagers Are Wild. But Most Real Teenagers Are Tame.10. The 34 Kinds Of Tattoos That Look Insanely Hot On Guys11. WATCH: Tierra Whack - Toe Jam Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever
Starting point is 00:01:28 you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 88, Episode 3 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, Fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Wednesday, June 26, 2019. June 26, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Darth Vapor, a.k.a. Han Yolo, a.k.a. the Millennial Falcon, a.k.a. Jabba the Slut, a.k.a. Brobuffet, a.k.a. Admiral Jackbar, a.k.a. Lit Visto, a.k.a. Princess Leia, all courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi main and I'm thrilled to be
Starting point is 00:02:46 joined by today's acting co-host, Mr. Daniel Van Kirk Hello everybody, I'm glad to be here I am Daniel Van Kirk, aka Danny Van Kirk aka Daniel Vaniel Caniel aka DVK aka the boy who went on tour
Starting point is 00:03:03 Daniel Vaniel Kirk the boy who went on tour what is that? Okay. There it is. A.K.A. The Boy Who Went On Tour. Daniel Daniel Kirk. The Boy Who Went On Tour? Yeah. What is that? I'm leaving tomorrow for tour. Oh, okay. I'm on tour starting Wednesday, the 26th. That is, you made it sound mythical.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Oh, yeah. I was going for like a Harry Potter thing. There you go. Well, Daniel, it is great to have you, man. Thanks. It's great to be here. Yeah, it's been too long. It's been too long.
Starting point is 00:03:27 My last time was just with Miles. I know. So on my next visit, we'll bring it all back together. That'll be amazing. And Anna will be cool. Well, yeah, exactly. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the host of such amazing podcasts as Ridiculous History and Stuff They Don't Want You To Know and the producer of many a great podcast for this very podcast network.
Starting point is 00:03:53 He is Mr. Noel Brown. What's up, Noel? Hey, guys. Hey, man. Hey, thanks for having me. Hey, thanks for being here. I think I canceled on you like twice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Due to like travel fuck-ups and horrible scheduling. And I'm really glad to not be an asshole and be here with you on this very day in this very seat. Yeah, this is going to be a very passive-aggressive conversation. I can feel it. It's simmering. Wow. Yeah, good point this time, Noel. Seriously. I figured I'd cop to it right up front, just clear the air a little bit. Yeah, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. Damn, we're talking about breakdancing has been provisionally approved for Paris 2024, the Olympics. Olympic breakdancing. We're going to talk about what that must be like. mm-hmm Olympic breakdancing we're gonna talk about what that must be like there is a story in Axios today about a what they're calling a Trump slump people's lagging interest in the Trump administration so we're gonna talk about that we're gonna talk about California wanting to defy the NCAA by paying
Starting point is 00:05:04 athletes or allowing athletes to make money off of their likeness or their jersey. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about how ICE has stopped updating their list of people who have died in ICE custody, why that is foreboding. We are going to talk about Boeing. We're going to talk about the Lee High School Lee-Off that is taking place. I'll explain why those weren't just a jumble of nonsensical syllables. We're going to talk about the best ice cream in every state,
Starting point is 00:05:38 the fact that euphoria is not an accurate picture of teens these days, kids these days, as I like to call them. And we're going to talk about, we're going to check in with super producer Ana Hosnier because she has written an article for BuzzFeed under a pen name. It is called The 34 Kinds of Tattoos That Look Insanely Hot on Guys. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:02 So we're going to get her to give us- Let's get tribal. Let's get tribal. Exactly. It's just barbed wire around the bicep. Yeah. Just three variations of that 34. Yeah, with a sparrow on it.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah. But first, Noel, we'd like to ask our guest, what's something from your search history that tells us something about who you are? So the last thing from my Google search history that tells us something about who you are so the last thing for my google search history was i actually went to my youtube search history because i couldn't figure out how to find my google search history because i'm apparently a luddite but my last uh youtube search was lord and lady douchebag full skit and that's because on ridiculous history we had uh wayne fetter, who hosts a comedy podcast on the history of stand-up, talking to us about Dick Gregory.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Dick Gregory was on this SNL sketch where it's this period piece of these horrible, opulent white people. Dick Gregory plays the footman, and he introduces Lord and Lady Douchebag. That's the only clip I could find because it was only about 30 seconds, and it was unfortunate. That's what I searched for. And it lived up to your expectations, your hopes and dreams? Well, like I said, it wasn't the whole skit. I looked for the whole skit.
Starting point is 00:07:13 The internet denied me. It only gave me about 25 seconds, but I did get to hear Dick Gregory say Lord and Lady Douchebag in that kind of like over-the-top accent, so that was fun. Dick Gregory is great. Dude, I had no idea. Wayne really hipped us to. Dick Gregory is great. Dude, I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Wayne really hipped us to a lot of stuff about this guy that I had no idea. Like, first of all, Hugh Hefner is who gave him his start. And Hugh Hefner kind of continued to support him even as he got into like really serious activism later in his career. Really interesting story. If you want to check out that episode, it's I think two or three episodes back on the Ridiculous History feed. No plugging your own shit here, Noel.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Come on, man. What is this bullshit? What is something you think is underrated? I think video stores are underrated, and sadly they're disappearing, as we all know. Like VHS stores? No, I don't know. I guess you don't have VHS anymore, but Blu-rays and DVDs.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I like to be able to kind of have a curated experience where I kind of browse through sections and find new stuff. Yeah. The process of going to the video store and browsing was one of my favorite things to do. It was like what most of a date night was, was just looking around and arguing over what movie you were going to watch. Yeah, and especially if there's like a cult section or, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:28 like a midnight movie section or, you know, any kind of like curated kind of staff picks. I'm a huge fan of that. And we have one left in Atlanta called Videodrome. It's fantastic. Videodrome? Nice. What is something you think is overrated? Well, this is a hot take and kind of a companion piece, but I think think is overrated well this is a hot take and uh kind of a companion
Starting point is 00:08:46 piece but i think netflix is overrated it's like i'm paying 10 bucks a month to just watch the office on on a loop that's really literally all i use it for these days right a subscription service to a dvd of the office basically that's right yeah which is sad too because i actually own all of the episodes of the office on dvd I stream it on Netflix and I pay for the privilege. It's a sad state of affairs. Yeah. It's interesting. They make a lot of stuff that I feel like wouldn't get made now, like sort of medium tier movies or movies for adults and like rom-coms.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Always Be My Maybe doesn't seem like something that gets made in Hollywood today. But I don't know necessarily if it's because Netflix exists that the movies have just gone that way and if those movies would be getting made. I don't know. I'm always kind of grateful for them for creating some of the shows that they create. No, I 100% agree, and that's why I said it was a hot take. This is just me having my get off my lawn moment. kind of grateful for them for creating some of the shows that they create but no i 100 agree and
Starting point is 00:09:46 that's why i said it was a hot take this is just me be having my like get off my lawn moment about like the fact that for honestly when i browse through netflix i find it like so overwhelming that i end up just like scrubbing through all of these like you know thumbnails and i never end up watching i always go back to the office like there have been a handful of things that i really loved like romo is fantastic and a lot of these films. I think you're right. But the experience of looking on Netflix is infuriating to me, and it makes me just kind of really stressed out.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Yeah, it's a little overwhelming. How about you, Dan? Any Netflix shows that you've been enjoying? I just started that new The Jon Favreau Chef Show. Oh, yeah? I find it to be pretty good. I like it a lot, as well as the show Street Food. shows that you've you've been i just started that new uh the john favreau chef show oh yeah and i find it to be pretty good i like a lot as well as the the show street food that first episode in thailand just makes you want to go get on a plane right away yeah so i really enjoy that i think they they do pretty good job with uh like true crime docs and things did you guys watch abducted
Starting point is 00:10:41 in plain sight noel did you see that doc? I did not, but I actually just started watching Wild Wild Country. Have you guys seen this? Oh, yeah. It's about the cult in Oregon. Yeah, man. Get out your red clothes and go to town. Oh, my God. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:10:54 They like build all this infrastructure. They have like a shopping center that only sells red clothes. It's, oh man, it's- Rajneeshi. I'm about halfway through. Yeah, that documentary is crazy abducted in plain sight i've said it uh on the podcast i do the dumb people town and i will say it here as well watch that and then tweet at me when you get to minute 22 that goes for you too no jack have
Starting point is 00:11:18 you watched abducted in plain sight at minute 22 of the first episode episode? It's one. It's just one documentary. Oh, okay. It's one documentary, standalone movie. And at minute 22, I might get some rage tweets. Oh, really? You will not believe what you were watching. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I will be enraged at you or at the movie? At the movie. I talk about it in my standup. I go, for anybody who's ever wondered the question or asked themselves the question, can you blame the parents? Turns out you can. So that's what I've heard. You can definitely blame the parents.
Starting point is 00:11:52 That's why I haven't watched it is because I've heard it is just, it might as well be called dumb white people. Dude, it is horrific. But other great shows like Mindhunters about how the FBI came to classify serial killers is really good. Yeah, I thought that was pretty good too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, so all this is to say, no, you're overrated as bullshit, man. I know, I completely agree. Netflix is great. Like I said, no, Netflix is fantastic. No, I don't want to be like a Netflix stan and I'm sure they do all sorts of, they're a giant mon stan. I'm sure they do all sorts of... They're a giant monolith.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I'm sure they have many things to do with bad trends. They also do a really interesting thing where they'll like offload... Like studios that have movies they know are going to be shredded and are not going to do well, they'll offload them on Netflix. Like all of these Adam Sandler movies and stuff. They literally just take them off studios' hands. But at least we got Bright. Yeah, exactly we got bright yeah exactly which was a monster hit by the way unintended yes yeah uh and finally no what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false
Starting point is 00:12:58 this is really hard and it's really funny considering that i host a conspiracy podcast but like i don't know i felt like that was a little too on the nose, but there's this viral video of this woman peeling garlic that's been making the rounds and people are just kind of like posting it sight unseen. Like this is, you know, the truth. This is how you peel garlic. It's the only way she takes this little paring knife and just sticks it underneath the piece of garlic, just pops it right out every single piece, like completely not damaging the garlic. It's just like, it's, it's like magic to watch. But there's all these videos of people like trying it, trying to figure out how it's done.
Starting point is 00:13:29 She never explains it. And it turns out either she has some kind of magical, you know, knife skills or like, you know, garlic abilities. But like, even like, I think one of the hosts of the America's Test Kitchen tried it and ended up slicing her hand all up and saying, do not try this. This is not, this is not a real hack. But I'm still fascinated because the video, it's not like a deep fake video of somebody like, you know, peeling garlic. Who would go to that trouble? But I do think it's a lot less.
Starting point is 00:13:53 That you know of. That could be. Yeah, that I know of. You know, it's very true. Or, yeah, like you suggested, maybe she has magic garlic skills. That would be the worst superpower to possibly have but very very niche yeah niche superpower it's like you're a reverse vampire where you are only supernatural when it comes to garlic um yeah i i retweeted a video i retweeted that video and then i retweeted
Starting point is 00:14:21 a reaction to that video which was uh somebody just doing kitchen hacks where it's like they put salt and pepper in a napkin and hit it with a hammer. And then it turns into a well-toasted bagel or something. It's all just bullshit kitchen hacks that are completely impossible. But I think it's good satire of the kitchen hack genre. And there's nothing better than to have somebody on a podcast describe good satire to you. So that's what we're doing here. That's how it's done. You can actually take garlic and put it in a jar and like close the jar up and then just shake it up all to hell and then it kind of peels itself. So why do we even need this knife hack?
Starting point is 00:15:09 That sounds dangerous. Let's just shake it up in jars. Wait, what? You can put dry garlic in a jar and shake it up and it comes out? Yep. What the hell? No. That's a proven kitchen hack.
Starting point is 00:15:21 That sounds magic to me. Yeah. Oh, it feels magic. I recommend everyone try it at least once. It's very satisfying. All right, guys. Let's talk about Olympic events because the Olympics are coming up, I guess. Oh, yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Another year. They're always coming up. Tokyo 2020. We're all getting ready. Who cared more about paying off the Olympic committee than they did their own infrastructure? Exactly. And I think it's 2024 is Paris. Who's 20?
Starting point is 00:15:50 2028 is Los Angeles, I believe. We're all going to Airbnb our places. That's my career goal is to not live here in 2028. Somehow find a way to not live. You guys remember Sochi? Sochi. I have fond memories of that Olympics with the wild dogs roaming the streets
Starting point is 00:16:11 and crumbling infrastructure. That was a fun Olympics. Now, one thing about Russian wild dogs, I've seen multiple viral videos where dogs in Moscow know how to take the subway. And Russian wild dogs seem much smarter than other wild dogs. Can you confirm? Dude, they can open doors like the fucking velociraptors in Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:16:34 They're testing the fences. But anyways, Paris just did a process where they provisionally confirmed various sports for the 2024 Olympics. And we got some bangers on the list, guys. We've got sport climbing, surfing, skateboarding, and get ready for it, break dancing. Yeah, exactly. So this seems on its surface cool to me. I cannot be against breakdancing having a more mainstream audience. At the same time, it does seem like it's going to be one of those judge-based Olympic events.
Starting point is 00:17:16 That's what I hate. Yeah. I hate judge-based Olympic events. Yeah, where it's just like, well, what you see here. Where it's just like, well, what you see here. And then you have the really snobby retired ones who are like, that is bullshit. After somebody does something that seems miraculous to you. Right, right. And you're just like, well, that was a clear point deduction because her toe was pointing down instead of parallel to the ground when she landed.
Starting point is 00:17:40 That literally superpower miraculous jump on on fucking ice skates. Let's just widely speculate here, guys. So do you think that in breakdancing, Olympic breakdancing, outfits are going to play as much of a role as they do in figure skating? Oh, they have to. They have to. And what would be your fancy breakdancing outfit? Big pants and track suits.
Starting point is 00:18:06 The most bedazzled track suits. Yeah. Like the old retro ones. Are you picturing the Adidas ones? Like with an old bucket hat? With the stripes down the side. Yeah, but I'm picturing that, but decked out like figure skating outfits. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:20 With sequins and shit. With sequins. Wait, does this also mean that you could have theoretically Adidas or Nike official Olympic breakdancing shoes? I mean, breakdancing gear and breakdancing athletic wear is a whole new market that seems like it's... The officially licensed breakdancing gold chain. I wonder if after you, when you finish a routine, you know how gymnasts do that arms in the air thing to the, I wonder if you do the arms folded, crossed all the way thing that Run DMC used to do on album covers and that my parents do if they're trying to act like they're rappers. and they're here to say the crossed arms yeah walking down the street just the other day when uh here's my question as well let's speculate this is there because i don't know the answer is there age limits for gymnasts well and would there be an age for this that's that's the question that i had on this is like is it such like is it like
Starting point is 00:19:27 those olympic sports where your body breaks down at a certain point you can't keep doing it or is it so skill-based that you know somebody can still do it into their 50s just because it's all about knowing how to spin around 45 times on top of your head. And also what, what will music like, what will it be? Modern music. Will it just be up to the performer? And then also,
Starting point is 00:19:54 cause I feel like every four or five months I see another video of like a nine year old girl crushing some sort of break. Right. Yeah. So it will, she, is she eligible for the 2024 team i hope so yeah um yeah i i i'm only picturing like in my mind's ear uh it's that
Starting point is 00:20:15 that's like the song for every single performance uh but that can't be true um yeah the article that i was reading about this too said they also wanted they they wanted to know some other sports that were worthy considering and they listed disc golf which i'd be fine with ultimate frisbee right and paintball yeah paintball paintball would be really interesting you're essentially just you're essentially just pretending war with other countries right right yeah and i guess the whole point of the olympics is is not to do that right that's just like okay who like because then you would use your own military soldiers for your paintball soldiers, wouldn't you? Yeah, probably. Why is there no high production value multi-cam paintball
Starting point is 00:21:09 tournaments on TV? It seems like that should be a thing. That would be a lot of fun to watch. There has to be. ESPN Classic has to have some Saturday at 4 while the World Cup final is happening and they can't compete with it.
Starting point is 00:21:26 They just put on the Johnsonville-Brot Cornhole Championships, which is a gem to watch. When is Cornhole going to be an Olympic event? I mean, the fact that it isn't is really disappointing. I don't think it's left this country yet, though. I do wonder if it's like bowling boring to watch because the people are so good that it the same thing just happens every single time like they don't even touch the board it's just like going i'm gonna tell you i deep dove guys into some
Starting point is 00:21:57 cornhole championship when you when you're on the road yeah doing shows a lot a lot of times you're just i'll just stay here in the hotel, I guess, and watch TV until I have to leave for the theater. And the great thing about it is how defensive they get. So you do get this element of like, they make it harder for each other based on how they throw, and they don't all put them right in.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Oh, they don't? No, no, no. I'm sure there's some that are going to get better. Also, when I said it hasn't left this country, I could hear people in at least Canada yelling. I'm sure Cornhole's made its way to Canada. We invented it! You didn't. Ohio did. But I'll argue on that all day. Or if you're in Illinois, it's not even called Cornhole. It's just
Starting point is 00:22:33 called Bags. That's what we call it. They call it Bags? It's just called Bags. In Chicago, Rochelle, Illinois, everywhere that I was born and raised, it's just Bags. You guys want to play Bags? You brought your Bags set? Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. I hope want to play bags? You brought your bag set? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:46 That's awesome. I hope Cornhole makes it in. Paris would seem like the appropriate place for Cornhole, right? Yeah. I mean, that is the culture leader of our cities and the culture leader of our Big Ten parking lot football, drinking games. Agreed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Um, no, any, any sports that you want to see given a go at the Olympics? Anything you haven't? I don't know. I mean, I think you guys covered some of the more odd ones,
Starting point is 00:23:16 but like, I'm really fascinated with curling. Like I know this is already a thing, but it's basically like a giant, like large scale game of shuffleboard on ice where someone's sweeping the ice in front of the curling stone or whatever. And the whole culture of it is fascinating. And it's like a very zen thing, and not much seems to happen. But I can't look away.
Starting point is 00:23:37 It's a very interesting sport. I kind of want to know more about the history of curling. Noel, you brought yourself back here because you should check out the losers on netflix there it it uh it's a documentary series that goes over people who failed in their like athletic attempts and one of them is all about curling and talks about this i guess it's like the most prestigious tournament that they do in Canada and goes back to the days when you could do it, like they would have their tournaments,
Starting point is 00:24:08 you'd have a cigarette hanging out of your mouth and a beer in one hand like while playing and interviews all these old guys and you can obviously tell by the title that somebody doesn't win, but it's extremely good
Starting point is 00:24:18 and if you enjoy curling on a cultural and historical level, I would recommend The Losers on Netflix. Is it available on DVD? I will only watch it would recommend The Losers on Netflix. Is it available on DVD? I will only watch it if I can watch it on DVD. No, no, I thought your rule was you would buy it on DVD then watch it on Netflix. On Netflix, there you go.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Yeah, you know, I'm not being very consistent today, but you're right. That does sound awesome. Is it other sports? Like, it's like a whole bunch of different... Yeah, yeah. That would be so fucked up if it was just called The Losers and it was just about curling.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Implying that everyone that curls is a loser. But they're just like, yeah, it's called The Losers. There's a great one about a boxer. There's another one about this soccer football league in the UK where if you lose so many times in a row, you get kicked out. You lose your team. Your town loses your team. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And the story of these just perennial losers trying to not lose their town's team uh it's really really good i recommend that uh series on netflix i'll definitely check it out begrudgingly all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
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Starting point is 00:26:18 We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do,
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Starting point is 00:27:10 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:28:40 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:29:02 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Axios had an article yesterday about how cable executives and media executives of all types are complaining that they're hitting a Trump slump.
Starting point is 00:29:35 They're seeing a drop in ratings on cable TV and, you know, articles, they said digital demand for Trump-related content, number of article views compared to number of articles written, has dropped 29% between the first six months of the Trump presidency and the most recent six months, according to data from traffic analytics company Parsley. company Parsley. And the COO of the New York Times said that their Trump bump, subscription bump ended in mid-2018, which I don't know. On the one hand, this doesn't seem like the worst thing in the world, but this reminds me of the story we talked about a long time ago on TDZ where a historian wrote about the fact that when hitler first started to rise he was all anyone would talk and write about but by the time you know the holocaust and world war ii started nobody was even writing about the nazis anymore because everyone was just like so exhausted yeah um so i don't know i think so it almost implies like a weird kind of acceptance or just people like giving up yeah i mean cable tv networks still reach a majority of americans
Starting point is 00:30:55 with political news coverage began pulling back on trump campaign rallies late last year because they weren't driving ratings uh that's according to Politico. So on the one hand, it's like, yeah, that's good because a big complaint was that he was covered wall to wall during the 2016 election. That's what helped him win. But on the other hand, he is the president and he's doing horrifying things. And there are horrifying things happening that people, I don't know, I think are just beaten down by at a certain point. And I mean, I think some of the things they're talking about are the more outrage driven stories. And it's not like people were ever clamoring to read more news about, you know, human rights abuses that are being perpetrated by the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:31:49 But, yeah, maybe maybe they can use some of that extra bandwidth to cover like the lives of the people who are being fucked over by this administration. Well, dude, even this most recent rape allegation just seems like it's gotten a pass in the media. I'm hearing nothing about it. I've had to deep dive Google to even find out more about who this person is. It just seems like he's done it so many times and has so successfully shrugged it off that the media is just over it.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I don't know. It's very depressing. Yeah, I realized that live while we were recording yesterday's episode. I was like, oh, yeah, the president of the United States was accused of rape by a well-known writer and a trusted writer in detail. And we hadn't even talked about it on that episode. It's the bed of nails, man. If you step on one, it'll ruin
Starting point is 00:32:46 you. If you lay on a hundred, you can survive. It really seems to be working out for him in that respect. Anyways, I keep thinking, it made me think of the phrase, they let you do it, which is what he said to Billy Bush. When you're a star,
Starting point is 00:33:01 they let you grab them by the pussy or just walk up and start kissing them because that, like, he walks up and starts kissing her and, you know, literally does what he brags about doing in that Billy Bush conversation to this woman. And it's rape. That's what it is. Yeah. I don't know. It's wild that that is not more of a thing that people are talking about. I think you're right in all that.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It's harder than you would expect to find people talking about him. But it's so clearly in his character. Like we've heard him literally boast about this is something that he can get away with on tape, and that didn't torpedo him. Right. 16 allegations haven't torpedoed him. This one's not going to torpedo him. I don't know what it's going to take.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I'm so at a loss every time I hear some little thing. Oh, this will be the thing. And it's never the thing. The guy is bulletproof because he's so despicable that nothing sticks because he's just that bad that everyone sticks because he's just like that bad that like everyone has accepted him for all his awfulness and nothing is gonna the people that love him are gonna love him despite that maybe even for that it's bizarre yeah it's crazy town yeah i mean the uh we've talked before about there was this new yorker profile of a group
Starting point is 00:34:21 called women for trump and they they're founding like the day that they decided to become a group was the day after the access hollywood tape so there are some fucked up weird nonsensical feelings tied up in in all of this where you know some, like you said, I think, do want this version of relations between the sexes or whatever it is. I don't have an explanation for why someone would start a women for Trump group after the Access Hollywood tape. People who like to fight. Yeah. after the Access Hollywood tape. People who like to fight.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yeah. Another story that seems to be flying under the radar is that the president of the United States has promised to obliterate Iran, literally said if they touch anything of ours, or what was it, if they attack anything? Yeah, if they attack anything American. If they attack anything American, he will obliterate parts of the country.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And that's not really getting much coverage. It's crazy to me. Yeah, it's just people are bored by it. You're right. And there was the whole thing, too, where he tweeted out the fact that, oh, I decided not to bomb them because they shot down our drone because it would have lost like 100 and something lives. But that he broadcast that out, it just seems like he's just such a bizarrely impulsive,
Starting point is 00:35:53 just not a tactical bone in his body. I mean, it's just like, it's all braggadocious. It's insane to me that he would telegraph that out there. And people are literally saying like, well, which is it? Do you want to annihilate Iran or you just want to like talk about it and then pull back? Like he doesn't even have like a tactic at all. It's just very strange. Yeah, I've never thought he was anything other than he has the exact right form of mental illness for this moment in time. mental illness for this moment in time like for whatever reason narcissists are dominating the culture probably because they're able to just use social media in really successful ways but yeah did you see that the president of iran said that he was quote afflicted by mental retardation
Starting point is 00:36:39 yeah trump i think that's what set set trump off today. Jack Holmes in Esquire did a really interesting article about what you were just talking about, Noel, where he was saying that we constantly get told like, well, those are jokes or those are tweets or what he says is a policy, but then he literally tweets out his stream of consciousness on his stance on Iran and 10 minutes before possibly killing over 100 civilians, he decided to not do it, which means did he not ask the question on what the loss of life would be until right before they were supposed to execute these strikes? And so it's a really interesting read in Esquire by Jack Holmes that i think anybody should pick up that speaks to one what is currently being said and also this idea that you are seeing policy and like national security decisions and foreign policy being just told on twitter like we're just going to do this
Starting point is 00:37:38 now we're not going to do that right yeah yeah it's like the primary process you're just seeing a window into the human brain of the president of the united states and you know all the should we shouldn't we that's that's going on we people just have access to that i'm i guarantee it's not usually this messy and erratic like even when we don't have a window into it, but that is at least partially what's happening. And I think with regards to the question of whether they hadn't covered it, like the potential loss of human life, like that seems like the sort of thing
Starting point is 00:38:16 that he would just completely gloss over. I mean, they've even decided they have to like stop giving him security briefings on a daily basis. That's insane. Well, it's not like he's paying attention to them anyways. I just hope that in the future there becomes some kind of policy where it's illegal for a sitting president to have this much free expression. I know that sounds weird. The way he manipulates, he can manipulate the market with a tweet.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And then his Wall Street buddies can make a fortune shorting the stock market. And then he'll say something and it'll kind of like write itself. Like, I think there's so much so many, you know, so much fallout from what he does that people aren't even fully considering. Right. It should not be allowed. It's insane. And the way he like deletes his tweets supposed to be part of like public record and he literally deletes them. That's illegal. But he does it all the time, and no one's calling him on it. It's just mind-boggling.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah, agreed. Let's talk about NCAA athletes. Oh, man, I saw this yesterday, and then I'm glad we're getting to talk about it today because California looks like they're going to end're they're gonna end up going toe to toe helmet to helmet head to head lacrosse stick to lacrosse stick is that what it's even called i don't know i think that's what most people uh lacrosse stick to lacrosse the idea rochelle rochelle illinois didn't have uh lacrosse it didn't make its way to uh agricultural northern
Starting point is 00:39:40 illinois um the ncaa president uh mark Emmert, suggested that a California bill allowing in-state college athletes to be compensated could end up meaning that the NCAA would ban all California universities from post-season tournaments or play. That would be like the NCAA or... The NCAA tournament? You just wouldn't allow California you can't compete for the championship no wow because the NCAA as as most people know does not want any athletes making any money off of their likeness or what they do on the field of play and except for you know what let me change that they do want somebody making. That's them and all the schools, just not the people who are actually bringing all of this revenue in. And that goes for anything from the water polo team to the volleyball team
Starting point is 00:40:32 to the obvious football and basketball team as well. So I think they've already gone through the initial level of passing this in California, at which point that made the NCAA write them a letter saying, don't do this because we might just have to ban you that would make all your students ineligible if they're making money off of being athletes and i hope that california goes all the way with this and then calls the bluff of the ncaa yeah i mean it would be interesting to see if ncaa would you know if people would still or i guess if networks would still want to uh you know spend as much money on these tournaments oh i mean think about the money like if i think it's espn that's the pac-12 deal so you don't think espn is going to go to ncaa and be like are you you know how much money we paid you for this
Starting point is 00:41:23 and now i mean it would just and then imagine if in a couple years four or five other states do this especially in the big 10 uh those states that have like minnesota wisconsin or illinois and because the big 10 i think is the most profitable of the television rights to whichever i think fox or whoever currently has the big 10 games outside of the big 10 network so it just comes down to that old that the thing that's been going on forever you have kids that have you hope i mean are trying to get good degrees but they're in school they're athletes and not all of them are on the football field like some of these people are devoting all of their time to fencing or like i said water polo or tennis and they have no way of making
Starting point is 00:42:08 money wasn't it ohio state where they sold jerseys right they were selling jerseys selling their own jerseys and their own they right they got like banned or their coach got fired and they had had to like be suspended they weren't allowed to continue to play. Or they traded them for tattoos maybe too, I think. I think that's one of them, which is harder since that's not a staple good that people survive off of. But, yeah, I mean, Shabazz Napier, I think, had said a couple years back that you go to bed hungry sometimes because you don't have
Starting point is 00:42:46 if you're coming in to your ncaa career uh and you don't have a lot of money and then you're being like like your income is being very strictly policed by the ncaa yeah like by a bunch of guys who are making tons and tons of money off of you. It's just a, it's a fucked up situation where, um, yeah, it's not,
Starting point is 00:43:12 it's not just that they like push you or that they ask the university not to pay you. They like pay attention to everything and make sure nobody is giving you any money. They came in and buy you lunch. Right. A potential coach couldn't even buy you lunch. I heard that, I think it was Tom Waddle,
Starting point is 00:43:32 former wide receiver for the Chicago Bears. He has a great show that he does out of Chicago called Waddle and Sylvie on ESPN 1000. And I think it was him. If it's not him, I'm sorry. I'm not crediting the right person. But they had this idea of what if, and guys uh noel and jack tell me what you think of this they had this idea that you you have a revenue share for ncaa athletes that pulls in everything
Starting point is 00:43:54 obviously your your top tier sports are going to end up contributing the most to that and that goes into a fund for all ncaa athletes when you graduate, you get a certain percentage of whatever that fund is from your four years. If you leave, let's say you go to major league baseball or basketball or football, you leave early via the draft. You forsake, you give up your steak, your, your slice of the pie in that, which you just signed a deal to go be an NBA player. You should be fine with giving up that but even if it's something as little as 10 grand 10 grand when you graduate college could really help you get somewhere either where you want to move or where you want to go or if you want to travel and get
Starting point is 00:44:36 some more life experience whatever you want to do that makes me ask a question like what what is the logic behind not paying them there has to be some like reason they think it's important for them to scrap. And is it so they're more devoted to the sport? What's their reasoning behind this whole system? The one thing the NCAA is saying right now about California is that paying players will give California an unfair advantage in recruiting. And then you would also get into a situation where the richer the school, the more money they could offer the players. So you would create where your Notre Dames, your Texas, your huge profile schools, Alabama,
Starting point is 00:45:14 would then be able to upfront offer more money to a recruit than another school would. But I would dare tell you, they're already paying. recruit than another school would. But I would dare tell you, they're already paying. As opposed to the super even playing field of college football, where Alabama has such a huge advantage over everybody else. I think it was Alabama. It was some school. It might have been LSU. And I don't remember if I saw this on a documentary or if it was personally told to me. but there was a player who every week someone in his family would wake up to their front door having a box or a bag on the porch and in there would be chips to a local casino there you go and then they would take those and cash them in and that's how
Starting point is 00:45:58 they were paying this player and their family throughout the football season was someone would just leave casino chips on their smart yeah it's like some mafia shit right there um but yeah i mean i think what it is is the idea of you know amateurism and athletics like you know you don't want this to become a a business where these kids are like you know traded from one school to the other and there's the idea that there's like a purity to these kids going for academics but that's you know completely idealistic and it's not how things operate even in the reality like even in the hypothetical version of everything went according to their plans successful schools would still have a huge advantage
Starting point is 00:46:51 over other schools. And they do now. Yeah, they already do. And I think it really comes down to the fact that the people who control the money are the NCAA. And they also are the ones controlling the rules. So they get to fuck the student athletes over because it's their system. And the student athletes,
Starting point is 00:47:12 you know, are only there for four years. It's not like you can unionize as a, exactly as a college athlete. So yeah, I think, I think that probably has something to do with why they get screwed over, but, uh, all right, we're going to take another quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
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Starting point is 00:49:27 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:49:58 She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
Starting point is 00:50:13 This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:50:38 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:51:12 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And there's a little bit of a Lee-off going on. So there's a high school named after the Confederate general, Robert E. Lee, that has finally decided to change its name because, yeah, what took you so long? But they don't want to waste the money of having to rewrite the name. So they just want to change it to a different Lee. I guess like all
Starting point is 00:52:06 their sports uniforms just say Lee. Or like Lee High or something like that. Right. Yeah, exactly. So they've opened it up to the community to find out what Lee should the school be named after. Now that they have that last name, the L-E-E, people have suggested like Stan Lee, Spike Lee, Harper Lee. But the one that makes the most sense to me is Bruce Lee. How fucking cool would it be to go to Bruce Lee High? The Bruce Lee Dragons? The Bruce Lee Dragons, dude. It would be so great.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I mean, even the Stan Lee would be great because then you could be like the Stan Lee superheroes. Stan Lee Spider-Men. Yeah. The Stan Lee Venoms. I put forth the Christopher Lee Wicker-Men. I mean, that's a great one, too. That was a great one, too.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Or number three on the list of people with the name Lee, Lee Majors. Come on, guys. There you go. I mean, Spike Lee would be great. Even Ang Lee. Yeah. Yeah, Ang Lee. I mean, I think, Spike Lee would be great. Even Ang Lee. Yeah. Yeah, Ang Lee. I mean, I think, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Like, the great thing about Bruce Lee is that he's, like, iconic for an entire category of culture. And, you know, he's, like, modern but also mythical. I don't know. I just feel like. And he already has so many great quotes that you can paint on walls above lockers. Right, exactly. Like, the whole be like water thing imagine the murals the mural game alone man
Starting point is 00:53:32 but you'd have to be the dragons right yes the Bruce Lee dragons yeah I'm trying to think of like the gym would be called the dojo or enter the dragon yeah be fucking great I would love that yeah you you'd promise me when i when i don't get to be here co-hosting with you anymore will you follow up and tell
Starting point is 00:53:55 me where this school lands on the name i have to know it's even if it's even if it's lee smith the 1980s chicago cubs pitcher whatever they land on, I want to know. Yeah. I mean, people have suggested, like, I guess the lead singer of Rush has the last name Lee, and people are suggesting that. You can't top Bruce Lee, Jack. You can't top Bruce Lee. And then I wanted to talk real quickly about,
Starting point is 00:54:21 have you guys been watching Euphoria? No, it's like teens doing it's like fast times at richmond high doing drugs 2019 right yeah i heard there were like 36 uh penises in one episode like in one scene like fully you know fully shown yeah i guess there was i can't even picture what led to that like what is the scenario that requires it must have been like a locker room situation that's's the only thing I can imagine. Or somebody wanted a world record. That's possible.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Yeah. I think it was a lineup, actually, of 36. No, that's not. It was actually, it was a locker room scene, and we're bringing in our euphoria expert, super producer, Anna Hosnier, who has been watching it. Hello, Anna. Yeah, now, I who has been watching it. Hello, Anna. Yeah, now I haven't seen the show.
Starting point is 00:55:08 No, I'm joking. But I'm really good at just kind of guessing. Right. No, but you like it, right? You're saying it's good? I do. And you know, the weenie scene, as I like to call male genitals, the weenies, it was actually a very funny exploration
Starting point is 00:55:24 of kind of like male like toxic masculinity it was it's very funny because it's just like this dude who just can't deal like he's just like so broed out they're like all these dicks in the locker room like how inappropriate like he's just the worst he's the worst dude ever he can't deal with anything um and it explains why he's like so deeply like a toxic monster and hey guys guess what your father your father ruined you um but i mean who didn't know that but anyway yeah it's a great i mean it's an interesting show because it shows all these young kids and then like the reasons why they're on drugs or like why they like to experiment
Starting point is 00:56:05 but it's also like i wouldn't say it's like based in reality because there's so there's so much like she buys her drugs from like an like a really like thugged out like eight year old like it's like really weird and like over the top it's like over the top but it's also i think the concept of euphoria is you're living on this other planet like in your head. And it has vibes of that where like things sometimes doesn't feel real. But I think that kind of adds to like the aspect of the fact that you're on drugs. So like nothing's real. And and some argue like, oh, it glorifies drug use.
Starting point is 00:56:41 But then like you also kind of see see these really shitty aspects of it. Like, you see her like the girl. First of all, Zendaya. Yeah, you've been. Amazing actress. You've just been making that noise over and over again every time. I don't know where she's from or anything previous to this. I do remember some newscaster made racist comments about her hair once.
Starting point is 00:57:02 But that's about as much as I know from her. But seeing her come in very fresh from my perspective um i think she's killing it yeah i mean like you see like the real dark sides of like kids fucking fighting with their parents like things where you like kind of feel it from your own childhood like oh yeah i was like you know yeah psycho as well still am yeah i mean the stuff that terrifies me most about having kids is that they will one day do things half as stupid as I did when I was a teenager. Yeah. They'll threaten to kill you just out of pure madness.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Wonderful. I mean, it's not like they're really going to. I mean, hey, look, I'm not here to judge if your child kills you. But like, you know, like in I remember, you know, as a kid who abused drugs, like in my most vulnerable, like true insecure moments, like I've said and done things that were incredibly not OK to my parents. Like I've screamed, I've thrown shit like I've just lost my fucking mind because I just want to go get high. And my parents are just trying to be like, no, you're 17. No. And then it's like, I think it captures
Starting point is 00:58:06 that very well. Yeah. I mean, so the New York Times wrote an article about how this generation of teenagers, like our current teenagers are actually the, like they use drugs less than any group of teenagers in recent history. They smoke less, they have less sex, they're getting into fewer car accidents, getting into fewer physical fights. So their point was kind of why are we making this show Euphoria that is like the most boundary pushing show about teen sex and teen drug use
Starting point is 00:58:41 when like this is the least sexually active and drug dependent group of teenagers but i like one of the things that the show talks about is how i think it says uh teenagers like your love language today as a teenager is nudes and like it's needs uh but that like that doesn't necessarily mean you're sexually active just because you're like sending nudes but that like that doesn't necessarily mean you're sexually active just because you're like sending nudes back and forth also I think that would fall under gifs right yeah right because it's quality time
Starting point is 00:59:14 gifs yeah acts of service yeah there you go affirming words and physical touch yeah so maybe affirming words and gifs that's where nudes fall into yeah but and it is like yeah even if they aren't abusing the drugs that people our age did like suicide among teens is rising the incidence of certain mental health problems is going up uh vaping has taken off in a way that is alarming public health officials
Starting point is 00:59:48 um so it sounds like they're saying that like there are issues here that you could highlight in a teen drama right but the idea that the issues are how fucking drunk and crazy and drug and adult they're getting is not really where the spots are. Yeah, exactly. Like one of the things that people have pointed to is that because people kind of grow up these days with helicopter parents who don't let them like out of the house and don't let them like go out
Starting point is 01:00:17 and make mistakes for themselves, they're safer, but that also fucks with your ability to like solve problems for yourself and that's a cause of anxiety and depression um that's crazy because i feel like everyone i grew up with was so on drugs that's weird so was it like millennial it kind of slowly petered out with millennials when we all started od'ing at 27 and then like yeah the younger generations were like whatever like i can't i don't know what
Starting point is 01:00:46 anything young is anymore but like i mean i have a i have a 10 year old daughter and she's basically like already a teenager like she's she's kind of addicted to social media she's not vaping yet but like she's kind of addicted to social media all her friends are there's that whole like comparing yourself to other people culture that we all probably suffer from too but with kids i think it's even more like pointed. And, you know, I think it's,
Starting point is 01:01:06 it's definitely a cause of probably some of those increases in suicide rates. Cause there's, everything's kind of broadcast out there. Like what other kids have that you don't have, or like how cool other people are and the way you compare yourself to it. I think that's absolutely a bigger part of it today with younger kids than drugs.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yeah. Yeah. I do find myself sometimes I'll be like, I'm going to sit down and smoke some weed, but then I start literally scrolling through Instagram and then I forget younger kids than drugs for sure yeah yeah i do find myself sometimes i'll be like i'm gonna sit down and smoke some weed but then i start literally scrolling through instagram and then i forget to smoke the weed i was gonna make this joke but i wonder how much of it's true is yeah is in a freakonomics way where you like oh this is actually tied to that i wonder how much screen time has to do with the lifestyles of teenagers now. Like being less drug dependent.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yeah, or just more. Because you get high off likes, really. I mean, those endorphins are real. If I could break 100 likes on a photo, I probably won't smoke weed for like three days. You know what? Something kind of weird. I don't know how much this ties into this,
Starting point is 01:02:02 but I recently put out a post on Twitter about my opinion of these um child detainees and i wished to myself that there was a way to turn off like notifications because i could feel myself being like oh i'm glad that so many people that i like or know or respect are liking this this opinion I have. But that felt shitty to me because I didn't want to be getting positive released endorphins off of something that I was just trying to say, hey, enough of this shit. Do you know what I mean? But it's still, it happens to you regardless. That you can say something for altruistic reasons and then end up getting a selfish benefit from it.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Yeah. Which feels shitty. Yeah. And another thing they point to in this new york times article is that the fact that kids from a very young age have access to like all the pornography that's ever been made uh on the internet uh probably has something to do with the fact that they are less likely to be immediately sexually active in their teenage years. All right, let's stay on this same tip because, Anna, you wanted to talk about the article
Starting point is 01:03:13 you wrote for BuzzFeed called The 34 Kinds of Tattoos That Look Insanely Hot on Guys. Talk about comparing yourself to immeasurable ideals. This is going to be like the Andy Rooney part at the end of 60 Minutes. We just let Anna go off on an article. I found this article because I clicked on
Starting point is 01:03:37 the 20 tattoos tattoo artists are sick of doing. I had never heard of any of them. I was like, what? Why are they so over these? What would those of any of them like i was like what like why are they so over these what would those be they were like cats with crowns i was like oh who i thought you were gonna say like simple state outlines well that too like skylines yeah what are you basic just kidding yeah no i am basic if you became a tattoo artist like you kind of just have to realize people are gonna come in and be like it says faith you know like in some like weird language it's like what did you think was going
Starting point is 01:04:09 to happen everyone you open a burger shop guess what you're gonna get asked to make a lot of burgers it's a weird thing to be like i am so sick of these skylines it's like get over it you're a tattoo artist try and make it better for yourself anyway so then you know through that because buzzfeed is filled with lists lists my love language i found 34 kinds of tattoos that look insanely hot on guys which unnecessary the most unnecessary thing because none of it matters it's like nothing reminds you more that we're all to die in like 30 years than a list of hot guys with tattoos. How was your date last night? Horrible. Except for the fact that he had the hottest tattoos.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I literally just told him to show me his forearm and then I just masturbated and I left. He's portrait of his grandmother. Yeah. It's the hottest tattoo I have ever seen Well anyways so you know some of the options Were like triangle tattoo A triangle? That's all it said? Just a triangle?
Starting point is 01:05:14 Wait like the Triforce from Zelda? Sure Like any sort of triangle tattoo Just all triangles? Pants creamed I literally thought you were reading the next tattoo and then straight line whoa because what else tells you your literal sexual orientation for the woman to understand that you're down a fuck a vagina than a straight line. Panties implode. Okay. Song lyric.
Starting point is 01:05:46 What? What? I am so horny. All right. Wait, that's one of the hottest? These are hottest ones? Yes. I mean, if you do have a line
Starting point is 01:05:53 from Gordon Lightfoot's Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald on your forearm. I like his earlier stuff. Sundown? Noel, you've gotten very quiet. Do you have all of these tattoos? I have zero tattoos, actually. I've been like toying with getting one but maybe i'll look at this list and make it happen
Starting point is 01:06:10 yeah you know like you can get yourself a nautical inspired one like have you been on a boat i have been i have set foot on a boat yes i've got my sea legs wait is that in one of the lists too nautical like an anchor because you're so anchored why not just the nautica logo wait an inspirational quote is one of the that's a hot tattoo dude oh my god it's just everywhere wait but does location matter like if it's a nautical theme does it have to be in a particular place there'll be like a lower back anchor or like does that make a difference it doesn't matter no nothing matters i think that's what we've learned here today one of them was like a tattoo that peaks out that was like one of them it's just like from the sleeve yeah like anywhere that's just like oh so this is just a badly written
Starting point is 01:06:57 article it's peeking out from an otherwise conservative outfit so like some of them are a nautical tattoo and the other is one that peeks out. Yeah I just imagine like Ben Shapiro with like a tattoo peeking out of his like neck. Does he have a neck tattoo? I am horny. I think that's what they mean. Right. Like Yadier
Starting point is 01:07:18 Molina's neck tattoo. Yeah. That's so hot. It's really yeah and then you know other ones are like coordinates to where like long longitude latitude like where do you have to be is this like memento can you not remember where your family lives like what's your deal you're so hot is your entire personality based off this goddamn fucking tattoo wow yes wow well thank you for writing that article yeah none of these tattoos matter you guys nothing makes article. Yeah, you crushed it.
Starting point is 01:07:46 None of these tattoos matter, you guys. Nothing makes you hot except for, you know, like being nice to your mom. And that's about it. Like just be nice to your mom and other women around you. That's the hottest thing you can really bring to the table. Your tattoo doesn't matter. Your body is rotting away within climate control. So like don't even think about it.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Just like be nice to women. Wait, even if we're on drugs, we have to be nice to our mom? What if think about it just like be nice to women wait that's it even if we're on drugs we have to be nice to our mom what if i got the tattoo be nice to women oh shit wait i'm passing away be nice believe women would be good believe women that might actually be kind of attractive i think i'm dying from how horny I am. I'm going to get that tattooed. That's actually a great, just believe, across your chest. Peeking out. Yeah, just peeking out. What does that say? Noel, it has been a pleasure having you, man.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Where can people find you? So you can find me and my pal Ben Bolin on two shows. One is Ridiculous History. We just kind of go through sort of off the beaten path. We're little history nuggets. It's like 35 minutes apiece. I think there's probably about 200 or so of them out at this point. And then we do another show called Stuff They Don't Want You To Know.
Starting point is 01:08:56 I always describe it as like a critical thinking approach to conspiracy theories. So it's not like we're true believers. We never really make a conclusion per se it's more like here's the science here's what crazy people on the internet are saying here's what the cult members are saying you know and now what you know we have a discussion about it and there's three of us so we do that both of those shows we do twice a week they're very good shows uh and is there a tweet you've been enjoying yeah i was actually trying to find but i'm pretty fun this one uh frederick nichi has an account i assume it's the frederick nichi uh but this one is uh i think this would just be a really good tagline for a product the casual confidence that is white denim oh yeah
Starting point is 01:09:38 that is a strong move that requires a lot of belief in self. Daniel Van Kirk. Yes, my friend. It's been wonderful having you here as Acting Miles. Where can people find you, follow you? You can follow me on all social media at Daniel Van Kirk. You can go to my website, danielvankirk.com to keep up to date with everything that I have been doing and am going to do. Speaking of, as I alluded to up top, I am on tour right now. So Wednesday the 26th I will be in Chicago, Illinois. And then the next day the 27th, Madison. 28th in Kansas City, Missouri.
Starting point is 01:10:15 The 29th in St. Louis, Missouri. I'll be having some of that Ted Drews. And on the 30th I will be in Indianapolis. That is the current leg of my Together tour. More dates are going to be announced soon on the other side of Lake Michigan, Ohio, and everywhere around there, as well as the East Coast. So go to danielvankirk.com or at danielvankirk on social media to figure out when I'm coming near you. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? There is a tweet that I have been enjoying. My first thought, I guess because maybe I'm narcissistic, is one of my own, which just said, read the article.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Yeah. We're in a time where you don't need much to have an opinion, but it would be nice if you at least just read the article. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Tweet that I've been enjoying. Let me look that up. Should have been doing that before. been enjoying let me should have been doing that before um could i say while you look that up that i i just realized one i really did love was a simultaneous tweet between um uh what's brian
Starting point is 01:11:13 cranston and aaron paul at the same time they both tweeted out two pictures of donkeys with the word soon which to me means in some form or another whether it's the Pinkman movie or Better Call Saul these two are getting back together and I can't wait to see what that means yeah that'll be interesting maybe they're saying they're going into being drug mules it could be as well
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Starting point is 01:12:10 I'm going to also tell people where they can find you. Oh, I'm at Anna Hosnia on Twitter. Yeah. She said, um, and you can listen to my podcast, ethnically ambiguous on this exact same network.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Um, okay. I'm going to recommend the song toe jam by Tiara whack, podcast ethnically ambiguous on this exact same network a good one um okay i'm gonna recommend the song toe jam by tiara whack because she's really an awesome rapper and singer and songwriter and she really uh she gets my big toe jumping jumping up in your boot and this song is called toe jam and um oh it's true i have made my toes dance to this before, just out of pure fun. Now, do I have fun? You know what the answer is? Yes, because that's what I do. I'm on drugs.
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Starting point is 01:14:27 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour.
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