The Daily Zeitgeist - Olympics On Steroids, Gwenyth Paltrow Is Punk?!? 05.23.25

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

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What if my thing was that I've been trying to change my social security number for like a more aesthetically pleasing number and it's been a nightmare. Like smell boobs or something? Just like, let's talk. Yes. Yeah. I want the last four numbers to be 80085. And then that again.

Actually, it'd be back to 5800-0-0-8, right? Because you're turning it upside down. Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly. Right. Or Boobless, I guess if we're getting tired. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Oh. Damn. How many numbers is that? Because so social security is the... Damn, dude. How many numbers is that? I'm just impressed by that. Is it exact?

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B O O B L E S S. Ah, we're one short. Just one chart. Yeah. One put an area like, you know, you can do a boob, boob, bless. Yeah. You know, all right. That's plenty for you.

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And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello the internet and welcome to season 389 episode five of Dear Daily Psych- Hi, hi, hi. It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where you take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and it's Friday, May 23rd, 2025. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka I drink warm milk in the shower, above my chest stay my hands,

guzzle that shit for hours, alpha bros don't understand. That one courtesy of Fashionable Dinosaur on the Discord in reference to I'm going anti Grime set bros who are like all about like quick cold shower. Yeah, I'm all about returning to the womb via hours long warm showers where I drank some warm milk and yeah, that's fantastic. That's my pitch to you. People talk about drinking a beer in the shower, but drinking a whole gallon of milk in the shower is, I would say better. A whole gallon of warm milk until you fall asleep in the warm shower. Eight percent milk.

And it's actually good for the environment. There's a certain point at which you leave the warm water on for so long that it becomes good for the environment somehow. I agree. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined by today's guest co-host, a writer and actor and comedian whose newest special Daddy Long Legs is a must watch and available on YouTube. The coiner of the disgusting phrase plumpers to describe his thighs is Blake Wexler! Hey, this is Blake Wexler, AKA. I'm gonna Blake till the midnight hour.

That's when my legs come tumbling out. I'm gonna Blake till the midnight hour because these thighs, they are so round. Thank you. Believe it or not, this might shock you, but that came from my head. I wrote that. Really? Yes, the Lord did that. God did that. God is speaking through me. God through me that came from my head. I wrote that. Yes. The Lord did that.

God did that. God is speaking through me. God through my pen. That's right. Which is mightier. Some would say this sword I have. And that's also something that you just came up with right there. That is true.

God, today's a good brain day for me. Blake, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by someone who called you Blakey. How would I do that? In an email today. Love it. Which is now what I will be calling you. It's my mom and this guest. A very funny comedian, actor, and Emmy nominated writer who's written for Good Mythical Morning,

Reductress, Brockmire. You've seen them everywhere from the Edinburgh Fringe Festival to the latest season of Girls 5EVA. Please welcome back to the show, Titi Lee. What's up? I don't have a song today, but I'll just double down on Blakey. Blakey. I didn't even realize I did that until you said that. You know, I was so excited to see Blake's name.

I think Blake and I actually met on the Cracked Podcast. Right? Yeah. I think you guys were on a live episode of the Cracked Podcast at that UCB sunset. Yeah, when I was producing back then. Yeah. Wild. So fun.

And then there was one time- I think you were a guest, right? On that episode. Blake was a guest, right? Or I was producing. Was I on there? You were on one of the live episodes. I know we were was one time. I think you were a guest, right? On that episode. Blake was a guest, right? Or I was producing, was I on there? You were on one of the live episodes. I know we were on one together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Those were great. But I do have an anecdote. I recommend don't Blake my heart, my Blakey Blakey heart, sorry. And then I'll let you go. Oh, that's a good one. Don't Blake my heart. Oh shit, I gotta write that down.

I have an anecdote about Blake. Oh, go. I always remember. Because this was like a random, like pre-pandemic, one of those late night bar shows that were weekly that nobody comes to or whatever. Do you remember this at Public House? And then you were about to go on and I was like, you have to go last and whatever. It was like, I'm like, so sorry, whatever.

You're like, no, it's all good. And then you texted me, but you were trying to text your wife. Oh my God. But it was like so sweet. But you were like, I'm so sorry, honey boo. Like, I'm almost done. I'll. Like, like I'm almost done. I'll be right there. I'm missing you.

And then like, but it was funny because you had just like been like, oh, so, so fine. And then turned away and texted. And I just get this message like from Blake and it's like boo boo. Like I miss you. And it was so cute. I was like, you know, it was just a very sweet message, but I was like, I think this is not for me. That was actually for you.

I'm so sorry. I'm keeping you. Oh my God. That was actually for you. I'm so sorry I'm keeping you. I'm a pest. That's the moral of the story, please. Inappropriate with other topics. You're just like, no, that was just most to you.

No, no, I'm sorry. I just missed you after you got up on stage. Five seconds after talking to you. Sorry I misread the room. No, it is, that is a sweet thing of like, cause it could go either way of like, oh, you could get a window into someone's life and it is, the scene is not nice. And yeah, no, I had a great,

that was always such a fun show. It was in the back of the public house. And like, that was the only show I could walk to in LA. And it was still like uphill. So I'd be soaked when I would get in there, but I'm like, no, I need to walk to shows with it. It's within like two miles. But yeah, oh, that's sweet.

I forgot about that story. That's cool. But it made me realize because I'm, you know, like I'm just out and about. And now I'm in a relationship, but I'm like, those kind of moments give me like now with that, I'm in a relationship, like little markers of like, oh, those are like nice things to have, like keeping your partner updated. And when you're out, like doing shows like that. Because I feel like when I was younger,

I didn't have those models. And I was just thinking when I when you texted me at like, yeah, it's funny now that I'm married and I'm thinking about that. But just like, oh, that was such a like kind of little core memory of like, oh, that's like what a good relationship is. It's just it's like, OK, I'm going to be a little late. But, you know, just to update my partner, miss you will be home soon. You know, that's sweet. That was really nice. Yeah. You aren't like you, we'll be home soon. You didn't have to do that.

That was really nice. Yeah. You weren't like, I'm going to be late and I don't want to hear it. Okay. I'm going to be late and then I'm going to go to the strip club and then I'm going to go, I have to do drugs in the park. You know, like, yeah, I did go home after the show, but yeah, no, I guess it makes sense where you're like for us, like we're so used to being out late. But then, you know, if you have like a partner who doesn't,

who isn't, you know, like that's not part of their second nature is like, oh yeah, by the way, this, I could be home at this time or I could be home later. So yeah, that's cool. Thank you for telling that story. That is Blake's an inspiration to us all. Yes. Thank you. Well, I'm thrilled to have both of you here today. Titi, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the stories we're talking about today. The Enhanced Games are coming to Vegas. That is Olympics where you're allowed to do a performance enhancing drugs. Those are going to happen in Las Vegas in 2026.

Thanks to... Isn't that just wrestling26. Uh, thanks to wrestling. Yeah, it's like wrestling, but I don't know. They could have made it cool. Like, well, we'll talk about it. It's been all Russians. It's being funded by Donald Trump Jr. And it's like one of these, like those all the worst, you know, libertarian tech bros are into it. And before like really digging into it, I was like, I mean, you know, bro clocks, right? Every once in a while, this is intriguing. I am, you know, the question that is begged by all of the like, you know, performance enhancing drug testing around the

Olympics is like, how cool would this be if they were allowed to just like do, do stuff that made them like fucking vibrate off of the planet Earth. But I think there's some issues. Anyways, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about a punk band that just released an album that smells like Winifred Paltrow's vagina candle. We will talk about the next Mission Impossible movie, and just generally the politics of Tom Cruise movies,

all of that, plenty more. But first, TT Lee, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, gosh, this just happened this morning. So I Googled how to undo, delete and a contact on your iPhone because and this is I'm exposing me. I am like, you know, on those reddits when they're like, am I the asshole?

I'm a hundred percent asshole. I'm just gonna put that out there. But my- I am the asshole. A much less popular Reddit thing. I'm definitely the asshole here. And you know what? And I honestly, it's okay.

Sometimes you gotta be the asshole. And, but this is what I did. Cause my husband met with, and I'm not gonna get into the whole story, but anyways, he met with an ex who I said you should meet with her because she had reached out. And after a long time, I'm not talking and this was like whatever, you know, this was a childhood thing. But they met and then they like met for a while and everything was fine. But I when he came home, I realized I was like, and now I think you should never talk to her again.

Like, that's how I felt. Like, I didn't feel that before, but then I was like, sounded like that was, that's good. And then I said, you should delete her number. And he like, didn't want to, but I was like, he laughed and I was like, okay, whatever, delete her number. But then this morning I still was like, you should delete her number. So then I said, can you give me your phone?

And he was so trusting, he just gave it to me and I deleted it and he got very upset. And he was like, that was very rude, which it was, but I did want the number off of his phone. But then after I saw how hurt he was, and how betrayed the trust was, cause I don't think he expected me to do that, which I thought, I mean, that's like what I,

what do you think I'm gonna do? I'm asking, yeah. So then I did- You have your own phone. Yeah. You know, what do you think I'm going to do? I'm asking. Yeah. Uh, so then I did phone. Yeah. You know, like the Z of apps you don't have, you're going to delete that number off the phone. I felt very bad. So then I did Google it and you just shake your phone and it comes back. But I, yeah, the shaking the phone thing is so weird that they're just like the

way to like do jump back a step on your phone. It's just like shake it like a fucking. You motherfucker. God, yeah, I always feel violent. I'm like. I'm like. You always, yeah, there's no real like cool way to do it. To undo. Yeah.

So yeah, I'm glad that you're agreeing that you're the asshole in that situation. I will say. I will say when I put it back on his phone, I did say, because at first he was like, that's fine. And then I was like, no, it'll mean more when you do it. So I do still expect him to delete it at some point.

It will mean more when you do it. It's so good. I was going to say, it was a lot that you did, like a Mission Impossible style break-in to his ex's house to delete his number off her phone too. That was impressive. Yeah. Yeah.

And on that level, it kind of wraps back around to just being awesome again. Yeah. Right, right. We had to cut that part of the story for time, but there was a whole thing and the SWAT team got involved. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated?

Underrated? I wrote down two things. I wrote down sex dreams and landing page websites, which I just miss like going somewhere online, like, you know, when you like log on and now it's all social media, but I'm like, I just want to go to a page, like how kind of how, like how cracked was or, you know, you had a page that you just were like, what are they up to? You can hang out and see stuff. And it's not just news, it's things.

And yeah, I miss that. I don't know if there's a place everyone's hanging out, but I am not invited. So let me know if there's a website we're all hanging out at that isn't our own social medias. And then also sex streams because I don't know, I just, and maybe this is a married thing, but I feel like I have less sex dreams.

But then recently I did have one and I was like, oh, these are fun. And I think I had more of them when I was younger in my 20s and maybe I am just dating myself because I'm getting older. But I don't know, they're underrated. I feel like when we were younger, we're like, oh, sex dreams are funny. But now as an adult, you're like, I don't know, they add some liveliness to your night. Like why not watch a raunchy movie while you're in bed? Why not wake up and feel nice?

I don't know. It's a little different for my, my anatomy is a little different for you guys than you guys, I think. So it might have different consequences for some of you out there, but for me, I wake up and I wake up and I can just start my day. I don't have to do any laundry. It's like that term, sober people use a free lapse

where if you have surgery or something, you have to go under some medicine where it's like that, but with married people where it's cheating for free. Yeah. And you say who the sex rooms were about. No, no, no, no, no. But just in general who the sex dreams were about, okay? No, no, no, no, no. But just in general, like, it's just the idea of a...

Yeah, it's just fun to be like... Yeah, because I think when you're with someone, it's like different because you don't have the newness of like, like discovering something. So yeah. Yeah. Sex dreams are underrated. That's interesting. Yeah. Because you do just travel to a different world.

Yeah. Like, it seems real. And then you wake up and you a different world. Yeah. Like it seems real. And then you wake up and you take off your breathing machine. Get out of your cryo chamber. We all take off our breathing machine. We surface to the level of the black goo that we submerge ourselves in as we go to sleep at night. Yeah.

Rise from my coffin. Yeah. Exactly. I love the idea. Blake and I are constantly having wet dreams, like late thirties or early forties. I don't know what happens. I'm just kind of, yeah.

We only took one class in eighth grade about the male body. And that's, that's where we stopped. I'm burning through three pairs of boxers tonight over on this end. And you do mean burning. There's a problem. Yeah, it's a problem. on this end. Crazy. And you do mean burning. There's a problem. Yeah, it's a problem. It's bad.

Cinders. Yeah, dreams are crazy that we just have movies. And sometimes our brain's like, here's a porno one for you. Have a great night. Have a great night. Not old enough to watch this. What is something you think is overrated? OK, I wrote this down.

And I was like, people might get mad, but it just came from, because I didn't have time to like, I just like, this is from the gut. I think Sabrina Carpenter is overrated. Oh my god. I know, and I'm already like regretting saying it, but it is my truth. And I don't even like, it's not that I don't like her.

I just, I think there's this like stardom that happens now that I think she's great, but I think the level of stardom that happens now that I think she's great, but I think the level of stardom that happens in the few years to become these megastars because of, I don't know, digital consumption, it feels blown out of proportion compared to the artists we saw growing up that we tracked over a career and watched them really rise and hone their talent. But specifically Sabrina Carpenter. But she kind of represents that for me. I don't know because I see her everywhere and she's cool.

But like, I don't know. I'm just like, why is she that big? She's fine. I feel like I'm already saying this and I'm going to like get backlash. But you know what? I think she's overrated. I don't think she's a bad singer. When I hear her early stuff, I don't hear like,

she didn't find her voice for a while. And now her real thing is just kind of being like, she's got a look and she's funny, which I think is cool. But as a singer, I don't really know what her voice is. It is weird like who gets anointed the next thing, where I'm sure there's a, like, a hundred, you know, like, Sabrina Carpenter A, Sabrina Carpenter Bs, you know, like, like a bunch of different ones, so.

Yeah. But I'm, but I think she's great. I like her. I just, she's so big. Or maybe I'm, maybe I'm just getting a lot of it on TikTok, but I am getting a level of Sabrina that makes it look like she's like Brittany. And I don't feel like she's our Brittany. Like, I don't think she's there unless I'm being naive, but I feel like we saw, like, you know, like, and before Brittany, there's a Madonna and people compared

Brittany to Madonna and they compared her early. And I think she rose to that. So maybe Sabrina will rise to that, but I feel like she's getting that kind of exposure where I'm not seen as an artist. It feels like it manufactured, like the people around her like, let's keep making money off of this person,

as opposed to like, she's like, this is what I wanna do next. Yeah, no, and Jack, Sabrina Carpenter is a pop star. Who is a pretty pop star. She's not a carpenter? Sorry, I was over here Googling, trying to find some of her work. She's Jesus' dad's daughter. I'm a big fan of carpenters. Yeah, she has a nephew baby. She's related to Jesus.

Yeah. I like Nick Offerman and then I was trying to find out if this was another one of these carpenter types. I don't know enough about Sabrina Carpenter to hold a strong opinion. I know the song Espresso and Miles was just talking about the fact that there's a part of that song where she goes Kazama singer. See, I do like that. I like that line a lot. She has some funny. I think she's getting into, she's exploring her voice and that funny part is coming out more.

I think that's iconic. Yeah, it does feel like the 80s monoculture where it was like Madonna and Michael Jackson, and that's plenty. We have all the artists that we need. Then it's been just like a fracturing into all the pieces of those artists, just break out into different musicians and they all become big, and everybody buys all the albums and I don't know. It seems to be working out for them, but I feel you.

I do hope it's working out for them. I mean, I think it's working out for her, but it does scare me about the industry a bit because I think it's becoming more and more the same people behind the scenes making money and they'll just throw her away or put someone else new out there. Hopefully, she is savvy, but it does scare me a bit the way they turn people out.

Are you typically a fan of, like is Britney the previous version of this that you're like, this is how it's done? I don't look, I went to Taylor's, so I'm not here to, I'm not saying like, oh my God, Sabrina Carpenter, girly pop. That's not really what I'm trying to say. But I think, I don't know, maybe it's something,

wow, this feels like therapy. Maybe it's something more sinister I feel about the industry. It's like as it's falling apart and they're taking away from new independent artists, they are also slapping people like Sabrina. She's going to make a lot from it, but they're not necessarily have her best interests at heart. You see that with Chaperone, and she's more vocal about it, but it feels like there's something crumbling in the back and that scares me. Meanwhile, everyone's just like, money, money, give me more. But no, to answer your question, I love pop.

I mean, I had a podcast about Ariana Grande, so. That's right. Yeah. So Ariana Grande is the truth and Sabrina Carpenter is the white lie that people are telling themselves. No, I don't want to pit them against each other. No, I'm not trying to pit two women against each other. You're either team Sabrina or team Ariana. You can like both.

But Ariana's voice, I will say, is very consistent from the beginning. You hear her voice and it's like, you're like, that's why that needs to be recorded. Yeah, yeah. I hear her sing and I'm like, why she got to show off like that? Yeah, but she's a great singer.

Sabrina Carpenter, the only other thing I'm aware of, other than because I'm a singer, is there seems to be a meme linking her as like the Hillary Clinton via with the substance. Like if, if Hillary Clinton took the substance, she would be sprint carpentry. I have not seen that. And that is interesting. I see that a lot.

Sounds good to me. I see that a lot. I see that. It's everywhere. Guys, I see it everywhere. I see it everywhere. Anyways, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk about the enhanced games.

We'll be right back. ["Infinite Challenge"] Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Denity King alum Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.

Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York, and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise

based on her firsthand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamor. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there.

Listen to Amy and TJ Presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What happens when we come face to face with death? My truck was blown up by a 20 pound anti-tank mine. My parachute did not deploy. I was kidnapped by a drug cartel. I just remember everything getting dark. I'm dying.

We step beyond the edge of what we know. To open our consciousness to something more than just what's in that Western box. In return. I clinically died. The heart stopped beating. Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes. My name is Dan Bush.

My mission is simple. To find, explore, and share these stories. I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor. You're strongest when you're the most vulnerable. To remind us what it means to be alive. Not just that I was the guy that cut his arm off, but I'm the guy who is smiling when he cut his arm off. Alive Again, a podcast about the fragility of life,

the strength of the human spirit, and what it means to truly live. Listen to Alive Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Jay Shetty joins us. The people who need the most love

often ask for it in the most unloving ways. So when I see someone's behavior the first thing I try and think of is how is that a plea for love? Whatever behavior you see from someone it's them asking for love in some way and I think we see it in children the most where when a child's throwing a tantrum, they're simply asking for presence, love and connection. And I think we're all just big children who are still asking for love, still seeking that approval, still wanting that connection and that embrace. And also to meet everything with love, right? When you can come from a place of love, even when you're dealing with anger or frustration or any of the things that don't make you feel good to just return it with love is a beautiful lesson.

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Basically the Olympics on steroids, literally. My first thought on this is. They're like, it's terrible that our world is run by a bunch of men who are developmentally emotional and mental children, like it's bad in so many ways. And then like, there will be like the occasional fun thing that happens. And I don't think we should deny ourselves the ability to look at the fun thing and be like, well, at least this is a thing that we can look at in horror

and be entertained by. I don't think it's actually going to be entertaining, however, based on the execution. But just generally, I feel like I'm grouping this in the world with like Alcatraz being opened again by Donald Trump and military parade, just like things that like five to 11-year-old boys are gonna be like, oh, sick, you know.

It is interesting. He's so close with, I don't know if he still is, but with Vince McMahon, but like it feels like one of those like it's like entertainment sports, right? Which is like WWE did that really well for whatever, you know, all their controversies, but they're basically like, what if we could just do all of this? It's, you know, there are these strong men on drugs and make them do cool things. Right. Are crazy. Yeah.

It is a step away from like, oh, we could have a guy fight a gorilla. And you know, like we can have, I think this is like the gateway to that. A hundred guys and a gorilla. A hundred guys and a gorilla because they can't do that because even they, for some reason, can't find a loophole until like beating on animals. That's their next thing. That's the fourth Trump administration.

That's the fourth Trump, the fourth, uh, right. And it's, so they are like, Oh, okay. Like, why don't we just juice up these guys? When you said five to 11 year old boys, I thought you were going to say five foot eleven men Yeah, just men who are five foot eleven almost six feet and to get that extra inch They're gonna get jacked up on steroids and it's it's dangerous at the bottom of their feet Rising up Yeah, I don't know it's obviously That's how strong they're going to be. They're just going to be like, you can see them rising up as they. Right.

Yeah. I don't know. It's obviously intriguing when you see how adamant the Olympic committees are about like they're not being drugs and, you know, drug testing. It's like, man. So like what, but what if, what if not, what if we were able to just see what those people would do? I think the two problems with this actually being as fun as it seems like in theory, it would be one obviously is like really bad for the people's

health, blah, blah, blah. It's going to hurt people. A lot of athletes, uh, like we'll take it, take steroids off season, right? This is kind of a thing. I mean, maybe not Olympics cause they're so, they have to like be ready to be tested at any point, but I'm guessing with this league, people are going to push the limits and not just do it. This is, yeah, this is the main reason that I don't think it's going to work.

It's, it's that everybody already cheats. Yeah. Like the actual Olympic athletes, when you hear people who like understand how the sport works, almost in every instance, they're like, yeah, no, it's just, you have to be an incredible athlete and very good and sophisticated at cheating. Like those are the two things that make you a good Olympic athlete. at cheating. Like those are the two things that make you a good Olympic athlete. And so I think what this is going to reveal is probably just that like all

Olympians are already juicing or like already using performance enhancing drugs. Just they, they can't use them like right up to the starting gun, but they do use them and you know, there, there are ways to get around the testing. And then you're also having to choose from a pool of athletes who are just like willing to be like, yeah, fuck it. I don't got anything else going on, you know, once they, yeah, once you do this, you're basically giving up the dream. So I feel like it's probably not going to be, not going to be the highest level of athlete.

So I feel like it'll just like even out and you'll end up with people who are about as good as, it'll just be like the Olympics, but like- Regular people who wanna be Olympians. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone, the Olympics, but everyone's eyes are yellow or like whatever. And tiny balls.

Yeah. It reminds me of like, you know, those comedy shows where they'd be like, oh, everyone's stoned or everyone's drunk. Everyone's on mushrooms. Yeah. Yeah. You have to guess which one is. There is something like you said, like entertaining about like, okay, let's all get in the ring

and everyone's just going to like cheat and see what happens. But it's less about the sport. No medical supervision. No. Yeah, there's like, yes, exactly like the comedy shows, you know? Yes, yes. Yeah, like that video I did for Cracked

when Jack was my boss who was responsible for that, by the way. No. But yeah, it feels like it. It was my idea. I was like, which one of you am I gonna have to drug to get a hit video here? No. But it does. I was like, which one of you am I gonna have to drug to get a hit video here? But it does make me think like,

well, what if they did stuff like that for, like what if they did like science symposiums and everyone was on acid and mushrooms? Like that would be cool. Let's watch a bunch of like NASA people, space people get high and talk about space, you know? Much better idea. We're talking about steroids, but that's a good point.

Like what if there is a street drug? Oh yeah. Could you just be on Molly and be like, I'm going to do the triple jump. Like that's what it should be. Like it should be just any drug, but like they're specific because it's being run by like Donald Trump Jr is one of the funders. So they're like, we will be doing absolutely no illicit drugs and any enhancement routines will be done like strictly

like with doctor supervision, which I guess, again, yeah, like good, probably better for the health of the people. They have also like, you know, because it's being run by people who are generally pretty incompetent like Donald Trump Jr., like they don't know that this is the one like fun idea they have. They're just going to like do a bad job with this one as well. And so, um, the only, the only things that are like part of it so far are swimming, sprinting, and lifting, which don't feel like they're going to be much different to what like watching a swimming race where people are on.

Like even the best, it's not like they're going to be like watching a swimming race where people are on like even the best. It's not like they're going to be like launching out of the pool like dolphins, you know, it's just really like a normal swimming race at like 1.1 speed at best case scenario, you know. Reading is one. You want to see like, I don't know, something where there's a contact sport, you know. Yeah. I want to see like, uh, I don't know, something where there's a contact sport, you know? Yeah.

Like baseball in like, cause that's my reference for it was like in the early 2000s, it was like steroids were rampant in baseball. And if you look back on it, you're like, Oh yeah, that guy's on steroids. That guy's head grew. Like you'd see a before or after and it's like, Oh, his head is twice the size that you can't grow a head. It was funny because the, oh, his head is twice the size. That you can't grow a head. Yeah, go ahead. No. And I was just going to say that I don't know if like those, I almost called them

exercises, those sports that you outlined aren't like, uh, like you don't want to be a big, massive roided out guy in a pool. Like you'll sink, you know, like weightlifting makes sense, but I feel like that's their mistake is that if you're going to do this moronic thing, just make it all like big buff, buff daddy, you know, stuff like weird shit like that. And professional wrestling, there should be a professional wrestling like TT said. Yeah. Who acts the best.

Yeah. There should just be like person throwing where they're just like spin someone around and then try and toss them as far as they can. But just like, go with, like, don't, if you're going to do this, go full world wrestling federation or entertainment or whatever the fuck it's called. You know, like bring in Vince McMahon as a, as a consultant. Yeah. Donald Trump Jr. McMahon as a consultant. Yeah. Donald Trump Jr.

It does feel like, I don't know, he's like a walking restaurant idea from a cocaine binge. So, but I feel like this doesn't have enough cocaine energy, like in execution. Like the idea has cocaine energy, but then the execution is just like, and we're going to have like scientific, you know, rigor brought to this to see. Like they did a test swim, like they did some early preliminary things with athletes who were willing to do it. And like they used, you know, a enhancement routine and like somebody, one of the swimmers like came close to or like might have like

slightly beat a world record, but they also had like some illegal like wetsuit on. So it's just like, there's a lot of stuff. There's like a lot of things you can do. It's like, they should do a no rules one if that's the whole idea. Right. Yeah. Then we just like have rockets like on our sneakers. Yeah.

That guy's fast. It is interesting that they're trying to present it as like a competitor for the Olympics, because that's a lot of the news. On BBC, they were talking about how it'll be, they expect it, or the spokespeople were saying like, we think it'll be Olympics. And then you can also play it in this league. And it's like, I don't think, like you're saying, Jack, like, if it really is just all these rules, but you can dope up, I don't think it's going to have the appeal of the Olympics. But if it is so different where it's like anything goes fire, like sabotage your opponent,

you know, like, I mean, I probably wouldn't watch it, but like somebody would, you know, that's like, my God, death games. Yeah. Here's, here's another thought too, where it's like, I don't even know if I made this joke earlier. I'm not well in my head, but if I didn't say this, it reminds me of like, cause Russia got banned from a couple Olympics because all their athletes were doping. So I wonder if this is another way, like if this ends up being another way for Trump to

kiss Russia's ass, where all the athletes are just Russian athletes because they're juicing anyway. Many say they're the best. They're the best athletes. Yeah. It is like a very Trump world idea. And like he, the guy who is behind it is like, I've had the great fortune of, you know, just like doing all the ass kissing of like the Trump administration and how great it is for America. So. What sport would you, so if you could have like superpowers to be really good at one sport, which one would you compete in? Superpowers to be really good at one of these sports or any.

Yeah. Like a flowers for Aldrin on, I guess if you could do steroids, but I'm not, cause I don't really know if how steroids affect each sport, but let's say you're like suddenly good at one of these, you could cheat, which, which one would you compete in? That's a great question. I think it would probably be sprinting, right? Sprinting, swimming or lift weightlifting.

I mean, yeah, probably sprinting. Like that's just, I feel like that comes in handy. So, so much. Maybe weight, like being strong is like a real superpower. Like that's a, that's cool. Yeah. Like, it's awesome. You're always at the edge real superpower. Like that's so cool. Yeah, like you don't feel it because you're always at the edge. I feel like that's the problem with it. People watch you lift it.

But if you're lifting at your limit, you always feel tired, right? Like you're not like, this is easy. Like you're always going to be pushing yourself. But I would do a lot of shit. I would be like taking fucking couches and stuff all the time. Just you would just work for a moving company. That's all you want to do. It's like, I want to like, I can't really help.

Yeah. Around the house with moving things. I would try to jump, jump over multiple hurdles at the same time. Yeah. Did you really? I did. I was not very good. Uh, and then I ended up just quitting track to do dance, which was a much better

fit for me, but I was like, I had good form. So they would always be like, but I wasn't fast. So when I ran, I just would end up. I don, I had good form, so they would always be like, but I wasn't fast, so when I ran, I just would end up either having good form or sacrificing that and just hitting every hurdle and running. And I could do slowly, like I was like a dancer, so I was like, perfectly straight leg, bend behind me, but it was like slow and graceful.

So I did not place well, but hurdles is fun. I think I would do archery if I could do, cause it's just the feeling of- Lany Olympic shorts. Yeah. Yeah, if, yeah, I guess not place well, but hurdles is fun. I think I would do archery if I could do it. Cause it's just the feeling of any Olympic sports. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If, yeah, I guess not one of these running, maybe swimming. That would be funny.

It's the one that like has changed the most by performing fancy is archery. Everyone makes everything. Yeah. I do have new, I feel like the sport at the last Olympics that went up the most in my estimation was the pistol shooting, like the target shooting where that one guy just like did it with like a hangover and his hand in his pocket and jeans. Like the really like advanced people had like all this equipment on that like stabilized their arm and like these like weird future like Robocop glasses that were like

their arm and like these like weird future like Robocop glasses that were like only on one eye. And then this guy just like came up and with like, just looking like stepped on shit, literally like had the, had the energy of John McClane and die hard being like, my wife just left me. And then in the post-game interview, he was like, my wife just left me and she took the dog, she took the dog. She took the gun. She took the family gun with her.

But all my love into this gun. Yeah. Anyways, that would be a fun one. I don't think I, I guess probably useful to be good at in this modern day and age. Hey, speaking of this. You can shoot harder. Shoot hard. Shoot so hard.

Yeah. You can shoot harder. Shoot hard. Shoot so hard. Yeah. Let's talk about this new punk album. I'm not familiar with the band. I am familiar with the scent of the album though. You may remember. Intimately, personally familiar. Unfortunately, not personally.

I've just had to do it the way everybody else has and spend thousands of dollars to buy one of these candles. I actually didn't know the second, like I knew the first act of this story that Gwyneth Paltrow put a candle on the market in Goop that was called This Candle Smells Like My Vagina. I did not know that it sold out so fast that they're like a black market sprung up and it was like going for $750 a candle afterwards. How could you even trust that? Because like if you buy it from Goop, you know it's from Goop, but someone could just be like, this is the group candle. And if you've never smelled it before, how would you even know if it was a fake scent?

That's a great point. I think it was like a resale, like the way that like sneakers like have like a- You could just fake it. Like this smells like Gwyneth's vagina. It's like, how are you gonna know? You can check. It's a weird authentication job. You know, it's like,

can I please authenticate the sneakers? I have to authenticate these disgusting candles. That's what Chris Martin's up to these days. Coldplay. He just lines up. Last album kind of flopped. So I'm just authenticating candles. But yeah, this punk band is called, let me see.

Hoobastank. Yeah, Hoobastank. No. So she, Paltrow was recently talking about the candle at the recent manifesting summit, which I feel like Blake, you were at the manifesting summit, right? Or you were supposed to like give a keynote there. It was such a blur and it's such a fun weekend. And yeah, it just goes by so quickly.

I wish it was longer, but I was, I was there for all four days. You were there manifesting. Yeah. So we got a little insight into how the product came about. That product is so fascinating because we were messing around with different scents one day and I smelled something and I was like, oh, that smells like, you know, which I feel like you named the candle, this smells like my vagina. So you don't need to like...

What are you talking about? ...censor it when you're talking about it in the interview. But then she said that she feels like selling that candle was punk rock because women's sexuality is supposed to be shameful. And so she was like, I think it'd be funny if I did this, which sure, I don't know that selling a $75 candle is necessarily punk rock. So there's this punk group in Australia, Private Function. They have a new album that is the shrugging hands up emoji, like sideways smile.

And it has a scratch and sniff center that makes it smell like Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina. They literally had, they hired a perfumery from Paris to like look into this and make sure that it actually like had all the elements of the candle. And they're saying this is for class solidarity, you know, you shouldn't have to be rich to have something in your house that smells like Quentin Paltrow's vagina, which I respect. You've always said that, Blake. Is this a punk band? Yeah.

Sorry. Go ahead. No, no, no, no, no. Jack's right. I do always say that. Now, Titi, please, by all means. Yes, you've been saying that. Is this punk band female? Punk band or male?

Yeah, private. That's good. That helps. That does help. That does help. Yeah, that would not. That helps. That does help. That does help. Yeah, that would be great. It's just a sweaty guy. The guitarist said, this was potentially the greatest thing any, speaking of the candle,

the greatest thing anyone had ever done and everyone at Private Function was beyond impressed. We immediately tried to buy one, but due to the overwhelming demand, it sold out instantly. They now sell for over $700 each. $700 to smell Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina is quite frankly, classist. And we at Private Function think that every working class person deserves to have access to that smell 24 hours a day. So congratulations to everyone. Lucky enough to score a goopy record. You now own a scratch and sniff record that smells like one of Paltrow's vagina.

So, you know, it's beautiful. Punk rock is not changed. Have you scratched it a lot? Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah. I impossible to say, uh, because I just got mine. So I've only scratched it for like 24 hours in a row, but I wonder if the music, so you, if it's time with the music, like you can't do it.

You can't scratch it while you're listening to it. So there's no, there's no crossover function. It's just dual, dual utility. That's a good question. I put pants on mine because I'm a bit of a prude. So, you know, and I also left it out in the sun, so it doesn't really, yeah, but yeah, keep it, keep it in a cold, dark place. It's interesting that I never heard her quote about the punk rock.

Because I agree with you, Jack. It's like the whole idea of Goop is not punk rock. But it's interesting to hear a framework like that. Because I think when it first came out, I just had the same thoughts everyone else did, which is like, why? And she's just doing her weird woo woo wellness thing. But there's something, there is something interesting about the idea of like,

you know, neutralizing how people feel or not neutralizing, but like owning the idea that especially if she grew up in Hollywood when it was much more misogynist. Well, arguably, but, but just like, you know, people making that it's not punk rock, but because it's coupe and $75. Yeah, exactly. I like the quote. I wish it wasn't about a candle that cost $75, and I wish it wasn't made at the manifesting conference. Right, the manifesting summit. Which probably requires a lot of money.

Yeah, I think that's a the quote. I wish it wasn't about a candle that costs $75. I wish it wasn't made at the manifesting conference. Right, the manifesting summit. Which probably requires $3,500 to just attend at the lowest level where they throw food at you instead of feed you. But you are allowed to do drugs at that one. Yes, yes, that is true. The best. I like to go to the manifesting

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Like if they could just have no digital technology, would they? And 46% said they would rather be young in a world without the internet altogether. And I'm curious what, just to get everybody's thoughts on, would you take that? Like, I think I would. Would you take it all back now? Just like, hard reset to analog technology circa, like, I don't know, 1992? Was the question, was it be young without internet? Was that the question? Yeah, is it to live young without inner was that the question? The internet goes away tomorrow

I would not I mean, I think there's a lot of issues with the internet I do really love and I think it defines our specific millennial generation growing up with it I mean I went to computer camp when I was like seven at Stanford and so very much was like testing like it was cool to watch the internet unfold and see, you know, all, it's maybe gotten out of hand now, but there was something really cool about like plugging into the world as everyone was plugging into each other. That was very exciting.

And I feel like as a core part of our generation, but yeah, I didn't have TikTok when I was in middle school, thank God. And I wouldn't do middle school with YouTube or TikTok because yeah, so I think we had a limited amount of internet and that was good. So maybe, I don't know, maybe I would control the amount of internet. Yeah. I think we're the age two of like, we might be the best generation to ask this

for it because we are like right in the middle where we do like remember a more analog life, but we had both. Like I do think about for you, like with your kids, I think being a kid right now with the internet, like, you know, with social media and stuff is a fucking, that's so scary to me. And I don't know how you do it with like, you know, how you control that with your kids, Jack,

but I think being young now with the internet, like with the internet the way it is, I would be like, oh, that's scary to me. But I'm with you, TT, that I would still want it. Like I would still keep the internet, even with all that, all the awful shit. There's like a lot of ways that it cuts out the gatekeepers and, you know, all the like monoculture like bullshit where like just a handful of, you know, white

guys have all the power to like tell people, like make decisions about what people watch and stuff, but there's just so many, so many ways. It's, it's probably just a thing where we're like early stages of getting this right and we just, it's just very wrong right now. But- Maybe there will be like a reset, reset in terms of the way we use it, you know, because there was a lot of stuff like we did well. Like before YouTube became this giant conglomerate and that's, you know, it's all ads, you were discovering really silly songs and playing them for our friends. And just literally like, I remember college parties were just playing YouTube

videos for each other. And that, like, that felt punk rock at the time. Yeah. It was like, you know, I don't know, it was interesting. Like there was something we were discovering together, which I don't think is how people use the Internet now. So, yeah. Yeah.

is how people use the internet now. So, I don't know. Yeah. Have you seen that movie Hannah, where the guy like raises his daughter out in the wilderness with like no technology and stuff like that? I'm not that bad, but like I'm pretty, I don't really have my kids on screens very much because yeah, it just seems precarious. Well, you basically give children like a microphone to the whole world when you,

and a receiver, right? When you give them social media. And it's like, we wouldn't just put children or adults, but we wouldn't just put anyone on TV or on the radio when they're like five and just talk, you know? But that's what having access to social media and the internet is like for children. I think there are also better pop culture examples than the movie Hannah where the guy trains his daughter to be a killer. Oh, is she a killer? She's like a world class assassin, who just like doesn't have the internet. And I'm like, yeah, so I'm pulling that thing from it. And that's a real career. How do you control their use of internet? Um, wait, they're in school. Uh, your, your oldest, are you kids are in school? They're nine and seven. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they limited

outside of the home because I feel like once they're in school, they're sort of like, it's how do you control that? Yeah. You just have to like talk to your teachers and they, I mean, they're, they're generally not on the the internet like obviously they use like some screens for Education, but yeah, no, no fun answer to this other than just like yeah I wasn't allowed to watch MTV, but I would just like like we're gonna be that family like that That's I'm realizing like my cousins grew up in a house We're like they didn't have a TV and like they I would like tell my friends about I'd be like I have cousins who like don't have a TV like in their house

they just like don't have one and everyone's like what the fuck and That's like kind of I think what my kids are gonna end up being like because I'm just not gonna get them phones Or you know, I'll get them like flip phones and they won't walkie talkies be on the internet. Yeah. They'll be able to like make stuff, but they can't be like on the internet, on social media and shit, because just seems bad. I don't, I've yet to hear somebody who's like, it's actually really cool for them. Like it's really good for the kids.

That's the thing too, because like it gets rid of the gatekeepers, which is great. But then you see these like white supremacist Twitch streamer people. And it's like, well, not everybody needs a voice. Like that guy doesn't need a voice for sure. This person who's not a doctor who's giving medical advice does not deserve a voice. So yeah, that's, that's the part of it. That's the double edged sword. Um, great pronunciation of sword.

Thank you so much. I was allowed to watch VH1, but I couldn't watch MTV. Couldn't watch MTV. Yeah, that was the rule. That's a line that I feel like a lot of people are drawing back to. Seems hard to change. I could only watch PBS and not Cartoon Network or any of the other cartoons. But I do think that's why I love writing kids' animation,

and I still very much look at like cartoons right now as like entertaining as an adult and I think part of that is because it tapped into my independence whenever I was allowed to watch Cartoon Network It'd be like a friend's house or like my grandma's, you know, but just never at home and I don't know There's something about like I wonder what are these kids will be like when they're older and what they'll connect to about like, I wonder what are these kids will be like when they're older and what they'll connect to the internet. Yeah. Like I think parents who like wouldn't let people watch MTV were like wrong in our generation and I'm like going to be that parent. I'm going to be like no YouTube, but it just freaks me out a little bit. I mean, I'm also like at the very beginning here. So yeah.

Well, there are a lot of bad actors on the internet targeting children. And that I think that is a bigger problem than before, because with MTV, it's like, you might say like, oh, that's bad for the kids. But there was like, you know, curation and executives and people held responsible. And now there are like actual bad actors.

Actual Nazis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And propaganda and robots and things that are actively targeting young minds that don't know how to discern. Well, speaking of propaganda, we should talk about the latest Mission Impossible is coming out this weekend. It's the final Mission Impossible, if you believe. This is an ad, by the way. if you believe Tom Cruise. This is an ad by the way. This is a paid ad for you.

Thank you. You should get that AI function where you look like Tom Cruise. Yeah, this is actually just an AI version of Jack. It's not actually me. They just- I like this Jack. Yeah, it's a new function that they've added.

This one's so much better than analog Jack. This Jack's sick. But the first movie came out in 1996. This is going to be the final one. Obviously, the first movie was dated by landlines and floppy disks, but it was ahead of its time in that John Voight plays a complete piece of shit. So it was the first time that we got to see John Voight as the human monster that he actually is.

Now, that's a bad actor. Go ahead, Jack. Hey, and that is a bad actor before the internet. But people asked Tom Cruise, he's been like kind of all over the place. Do we think, did you guys see him eating popcorn? Did you see what it was like? No. He just like whips, like an individual piece of popcorn

at his mouth, like one at a time in like quick succession. And it's just like, yeah, try and picture the most intense way to eat popcorn that you could possibly imagine. And that's obviously what he's doing. I'm curious if that was a thing where they were like, hey, could you like do something weird with the popcorn? We feel like that will get people talking about you. Because he's also like, this is on the same tour where he's like climbing

rooftops and fucking like jumping out of planes and just trying to kill himself over and over again in fun, entertaining ways. But somebody was like, Oh, is this going to be, you know, this movie is made all over the place and like lots of different locations. Will it be affected by the tariffs? And he was like, we'd rather answer questions about the movie. Thank you. So, and so would we. And thank you.

But he, he's like weirdly apolitical. Like he's been in things that clearly have a political bench. Like the Top Gun movies are essentially funded by the Pentagon. And, but they're also like the second, they always like faceless, right? Isn't that a whole point he makes is like, there's like, I mean, it feels very like obviously American military propaganda, but he, he'll say, they're never fighting Russia, they're fighting. They're just like faceless enemy.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's how they, and that's kind of how the like Mission Impossible movies are. Like they just try and always have it both ways. But yeah, you're right. Like Top Gun Maverick was, they specifically like didn't even say what the other country was.

They're just like, and we have a target behind enemy lines, you know, the way that people would talk about a thing. They wouldn't, they wouldn't, we don't want to get specific here. No. Isn't he not allowed to read the news though? I mean, is that, I mean, is he still with, is he still with Scientology? Like I remember. Don't say it, don't say it.

I'm totally joking. I just explode into a bunch of Thedons or whatever the pose aliens are. Focused energy beam that just comes from Tom Cruise, just from his sheer magnetism. My understanding was he doesn't really have access to the same information we do. I mean, he obviously has, you know, a very bubble life and I think he's okay, I hope. But I hope, blink. But but yeah, my understanding is you're not like plugged in. Yeah, I think that's probably it's, that's why I think it's that's why I think it's interesting to think about the political content of his movies. Because so like he made Top Gun, Top Gun, by the way, named after a real military Air Force program that was literally created during Vietnam in order to improve the Navy's kill ratio in the Vietnam War. But then a couple of years after that, he starred in Born on the Fourth of July, directed by Oliver Stone, a complete anti-war movie that Oliver Stone specifically

cast him because he thought it would be funny to put the guy from Top Gun, which he called a fascist film, in an anti-war movie. But Mission Impossible specifically are, I don't know, they have this weird thing where I think the show that they're based on was specifically inspired by this guy, Robert Mayhew, who was basically the CIA's fixer. When you're the fixer, which is the guy who does the dirt for an organization famous for doing the world's dirt, doing capitalism's dirt, like you have to be, like there's just all sorts of, you know, hiring the mafia to kill Fidel Castro, quote, lining up sex workers for foreign dignitaries. There's a new book that claims he was involved in the assassination of Bobby Kennedy. And the first Mission Impossible movie

was made with the help of the CIA's public affairs office. Specifically, they were like, Holy shit. We'd like to be involved in helping you shape the public's perception of the agency. Then when you look at the content of the movies, it's always this weird thing where they are both an intelligence agency, but they're also fighting the American intelligence agency. It's always somehow a double cross,

so that they can never be seen as just being the CIA. It's always like, well, we've got to sneak in here and do the skunkworks. There's always that map, the sort of like, oh, they said stand down, but it's like, no, I'm gonna do it anyway. And yeah, I'm gonna do it anyway. Let's get Langley on the phone.

And he's like, he's really like, when you think about it, he's like kind of punk rock. He's so punk rock that that was the word I was trying to think of. He's punk rock. It'd be funny if just one of the things was just about him shooting John F. Kennedy. Top guns. If just one of the things was just about him shooting John F. Kennedy. Oh, God. Top Guns. I'm sorry, I'm laughing. Imagine that movie. You don't know who the target is.

You're root for it. You're behind enemy lines, but those lines are in Dallas. Yeah, just Texas. You know? Yeah. That's the big reveal. That actually would be pretty good. That's kind of sick.

Just like an Ocean's Eleven style caper where they're just trying to plan the Jackass assassination. Do you think we should shoot one more? Do you think we should shoot one more? Yeah, let's get a second shot. Let's get shooters on grassy knoll. Just make sure they're in grassy knoll covered clothing. But yeah, the franchise first post-911 movie, he is arrested by the IMF and forced to endure enhanced interrogation.

So just have it both ways. Also at the end of that, the IMF, that's the name of his agency, I think, want to plant a super weapon in a Middle Eastern country in order to justify an invasion. So basically just like the bad guy is the George W. Bush administration. But yeah, it's... So were those also working with the government or they sort of took off? I don't know.

Like, yeah, at that point they probably didn didn't need funding or consultation from the CIA, but it does seem like when you just think about the overall impression that you get from the movies, it's like, yeah, the CIA has got some bad guys, but there's also good guys working to like... You get a sense of pride, essentially. Because you want them to win, but you're also like, oh, you know, we all don't like authority But at the end of the day the authority, you know still accepts him once they saw that he was right or whatever Like when a CIA agent's kid catches them like disposing of a body in their backyard

The thing that they like will tell their kid is it's complicated, you know They're like, well, it's a complicated world where like this, this person was a bad guy that, you know, before they have to like kill their kid. No, grab a shovel. No, grab a shovel. And I'm going to put you in the same hole. I wonder because it's interesting, this administration is much more hands on with like media and press. And I do see us going closer to like how China is where they regulate everything that comes out. I think it would be naive to assume we didn't do anything like that before.

I think you're right, Jack, even without funding and I think with big movies like this, there's probably some level of like transparency like the government or CIA watches it. Because I imagine even if something gets close to something that's actually happening, they probably would be like, you have to kill that storyline. But it does scare me a bit how much we're going into this world where everything's going to be monitored and changed. Or maybe we already are, but that's literally... We talk about free speech, but that's literally all these countries

that regulate art and media. We're just doing that. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely, we've like turned a corner where, you know, with the like CBS News thing that's happening right now, where the, you know, it's that they can't reach out and directly kill a story, but they can use the machinations of, you know, Trump being able to do corruption without any, any consequences whatsoever. And just being like, I'm going to make it so you can't, like,

do, do the merger that you want to do if you write a bad story about me. And then like, yeah, it's essentially, it's essentially the same thing as having a government propaganda office or like somebody who's just reviewing everything to make sure that it's friendly. It's a good world. So yeah, this is in many ways, just pointing this out is like nostalgic for a time when like you, when they weren't just like, yeah, no, we want to make a movie where the CIA is the hero, which is probably where we're headed for. Well, TT, what a pleasure having you as always on the podcast.

It was lovely. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, actually I'm doing a Hollywood fringe of You Live in LA. I have a discount code. I'm going to do four shows in June. That's my solo show I took to Edinburgh last year. It's called Good Girl Gone Baddy. It's mostly comedy.

It's about me discovering my drag identity after my little brother died. There's some emotional parts, but a lot of fun, a lot of dancing, and there are boobs. So don't bring your kids. The code is ZITEGANG, all capital, and you can find me online. So you can, well, don't find me in person. Or find me in person at the show, whatever. Find me online so you can, well, don't find me in person, or find me in person at the show, whatever. Find me in person at the show. Find me online to get tickets at Theresa Lee Bott on Instagram.

And I'm not really using any other social medias, but if you find me, you can follow me on the other ones too. There you go. That sounds good. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Well, okay, you know, a work of media, because I just watched the Penguin's documentary on Disney, which I highly recommend just generally getting into Penguins. Every once in a while, I get into an animal and just search those videos on TikTok. And it's just like a nice way to like

look at animals and connect and learn. I don't know, that's like my discovery channel, but there's the doc on Disney Plus. I think it's been out for a while, but it's called, I think it's literally called Penguins. And they follow these penguins around. But the part, if you watch the whole thing, watch till the end during the credits, because my favorite part is at the end

where they show the crew filming it. And you see just, Cause it's beautiful. And you know, you think they must have all this high tech equipment that zooms in and whatever. But then they show the behind the scenes and it's literally the crew is just like hanging out with Penguin in this vast Arctic. And the Penguin just like walk up to them and walk past.

And it's really cool to see how it was done because you really realize like, oh, they were right there hanging out with the penguins. They just get to hang out with the penguins. Yeah, so just watch the credits part. That part's fun. You'll get it. You'll get it.

Oh yeah, and then this thread. Okay, wait, this is the one that I found that I was gonna say. It's, okay, from at Mimi Blair, everyone is born owing 150,000 bad art pieces to the God of bad art and you can't make good art until you pay off all your debt. So yeah, people who made a lot of art as a kid are good at it now. They paid off their debt.

I like that. That's pretty cool. I like that. Blake, where can people find you? Is there work in media you've been enjoying? Yeah. Also, go see TT Live. TT is one of my favorite people.

The best. So go see those shows. And then I, for the love of fucking God, follow me on social media if you don't. And at Blick-Wetzler on everything. And then also I did a bike ride to raise money for autism research and awareness. And a lot of Zeitgang donated.

So I just wanted, like I saw all the donations and I know people shouted out Zeitgang. So there are at least like five or six, seven people from Zeit Zeitgang donated. So I just wanted, like I saw all the donations and I know people shout it out, Zeitgang. So there are at least like five or six, seven people who from Zeitgang who donated. So thank you, I saw that, I really appreciate it. And then Stand Up, I'm doing Stand Up. And on August 1st, there's a Blake and Friends in Philly. So my favorite local comics are gonna be on that.

On August 22nd, I'm headlining the first ever comedy festival in Philadelphia. So I'm doing one of those shows and then August 29th to the 30th. I'll be in Wilkes-Barre and then there'll be other non Pennsylvania based shows at some fucking point. And also I have a piece of media that I would like to read where I guess like the Airbnb person wrote tomorrow, we're unveiling Airbnb's next chapter and then at Tanya Sabrina wrote water BNB fire BNB That's Tanya Sabrina who's very funny comic Tanya underscore s a b r i n a

That's me. There it is. I do wonder what they're... I mean, it's going to be incredibly disappointing, but... Just a totally fucked company, also. The ways they fuck everyone. Everyone. Their hosts. They're... Alright. Anyway, that's all. I have a feeling if I had to guess, it involves AI. But we'll, yeah.

That's interesting. The AI in Airbnb is gonna be capitalized. House AI. That's right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien on Blue Sky at Jack Obey the number one work of media I've been enjoying at Tim Ross Comedy. Tweeted, give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day.

Teach a man to fish, buy the pond, tell him he can't have the fish, but he can fish for you and you sell the fish and give him a very small cut. And then he'll say stuff like, I am hungry and my teeth hurt. Nobody wants to fish these days. That's great. As the old saying goes, you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're also on Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist and on Instagram at The Daily Zeitgeist.

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