The Daily Zeitgeist - Omicron Optimism? Santa Loves Selling Guns 12.07.21

Episode Date: December 7, 2021

In episode 1044, Jack and Miles are joined by voice artist and musician Shahjehan Khan to discuss Omicron Update: Initial Numbers Show Less Severe, Dems not sure what to do about Islamophobia…, MSM Headline Tells You Everything You Need to Know About Democrats Right Now, San Fran Suspends Tax on Cannabis to Help Dispensaries Compete With Drug Dealers, The Right Has Been Using Santa Claus to Promote Guns For Decades and more! Omicron Update: Initial Numbers Show Less Severe Dems not sure what to do about Islamophobia... MSM Headline Tells You Everything You Need to Know About Democrats Right Now San Fran Suspends Tax on Cannabis to Help Dispensaries Compete With Drug Dealers The Right Has Been Using Santa Claus to Promote Guns For Decades Sheriff's Office Slammed for Post of Santa Getting Concealed Handgun Permit: 'What is your message to children?' 10 More Deranged Depictions of Santa Claus Santa was seen with firearms even when he wasn't in a gun ad. While there isn't anything scandalous about Santa shilling button-down shirts, it is shocking to see St. Nick threatening suicide if he doesn't get said shirts. When Santa Claus Was Deployed in Wartime Lobbyist Portrays Armed Santa Listen: The KominasKing of the World PodcastMushroom Music Instagram @taruntspoonListen: Rollin Stone by Red Astaire Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 214 episode 2 of the daily zeitgeist production of iheart radio and this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness of course it is tuesday december 7th 2021 world trick shot day we've all been waiting for it folks yeah it is finally here nothing else happened on december 7th that's that's all i got. Yeah. Did you have something? Oh, right, right, right. National Cotton Candy Day.

Right. And was that a date that'll live in him? Oh, right. National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, yeah. Someone has a birthday like today. And I was like, I said a day that will live in infamy.

And it went straight over their head. I remember one of the first times i met them and for ever since then i secretly judged them for their lack of like historical recall well especially if it's your birthday how how do you yeah not have that just at the top of mind maybe that's how good a birthday they have like they're able to completely block out everything it's just like it's my everything yeah it's just a traveling uh parade of birthday yeah all right well my name is jack o'brien aka whoa i shaved up there whoa no more lip hair your kid's safe. I'm not a creep, I swear. Whoa, no more lip hair. And that is from Adam Dodd, and it will be the last mustache based. I shaved a week ago.

I think it's probably time to stop singing about my mustache. Okay. But thank you, Adam Dodd. Had to let that one out. Well done, sir. but thank you Adam Dodd had to let that one out well done sir and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray it's Miles Gray

the great lover of holiday films aka Doob's McDuck aka It's a Wonderful Leaf aka How the Grinch Smokes Spliffage aka Miracle Cron 420 Street aka The Christmas Chronicles aka Reefer Games starring Bud Hashfleck and Chartres Therbom

Stoned Alone and Stoned Alone 2 based in New York Shout out to Matt Dick though on Twitter Wow has there ever been I mean I'm assuming there's oh Harold and Kumar Christmas movie right? Is there another? oh, Harold and Kumar, like Christmas movie, right?

There's one of those. Is there another? Did Cheech and Chong ever do a holiday movie? Maybe they did. You know, generationally, I only know like the big hits for them. So if there was a deep cut Cheech and Chong, my apologies. Yeah, yeah. It seems like holiday themed, like the way that great music artists all have their holiday album or not

so great you know a lot of it seems like all directors should do a spin on their normal movie we should have a kubrick oh right christmas movie uh you know everybody should get that yeah because if artists and their management are allowed to do these blatant cash grabs or being like hey you know who needs a fucking uh christmas album 98 degrees no they don't but they want to sell some records then yeah like get fucking uh denis villeneuve to be like okay dude do a christmas movie right now sicario christmas yeah just make them all lifetime or a hallmark channel just you know they don't have to be anything special. Well, Miles, we are thrilled

to be joined in our third seat by a voiceover artist, actor, and musician who you can hear as Mateo on Rom-Com Pod Season 1 in his internationally

acclaimed South Asian-American punk band, The Cominas. And they've been featured in, I don't know, Rolling Stone,

Guardian, Paper, CNN, Mike, and, you know, no big deal. You can also hear him as the host of the acclaimed podcast King of the World, which is a seven-part podcast about his journey as a Pakistani-American Muslim teenager coming of age post-9-11. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Shah Jahan Khan. Thank you so much. Pleasure to be here, guys. As I was mentioning, I think before we started recording,

from the floor of my parents' bedroom in northern Massachusetts. But they have a beautiful bedspread. Yeah. I believe my mom, you know, put this thing together herself. So here we are. Nice. I'd love to see it. And I fumbled the pronunciation.

It's Hun, right? Hun, yeah. Like, you know, you got something stuck in your throat there. There it is. Did you grow up in Massachusetts? I did, actually. Yeah. My parents have been here since the mid-70s. I came rolling around in the early 80s. I was born in Boston, but grew up in an extremely boring suburb called boxborough massachusetts boxborough boxborough with a b not foxborough where um the uh patriots that i don't give a shit about play football but yeah boxborough with a b boxborough bro yeah i'm one of the rare like i guess i want to say not that rare but i guess rare bostonians that really doesn't care much about sports.

So, yeah, that's true. Like, so you don't have any Celtic pride, Red Sox pride. You're just like, are you just generally not interested in sports? Because I see that also being a reason why you're like, no. I mean, my mom tells the story in the on the first episode of my show, The Show King of the World, where she's like, you know, it's a very serious conversation about like growing up in a very white town and stuff. And she was like, you know,

it was a very high pressure environment. Our school mascot was like literally called the Colonials. That was the name of the whatever football hockey team. But yeah, she was like desperate for me to get into sports. I started figure skating

and I kind of wish I had stuck with figure skating, but that was really the only thing I was like, all right. And I was like, not, I did, I did soccer and track, you know, kind of like you sort of do them cause you're supposed to. Right. But yeah. Man, figure skating is such a, like, that's just such a translatable like thing. I don't know.

When I see people who have a background in hockey or skating like when they get out on a rink like they're just something comes over them it's like it's like when you see a bird that really enjoys flying and they're just like you know it's just like yo they really like they go to another place i was pretty good but you know it's like i think about that a lot and i feel like the reason i didn't continue with it if i'm honest was probably homophobia at a young age you know what i mean like because it was like me and maybe one other guy at the time in the team and you know all the like kids in acton and boxborough like whatever it was like hockey and if you weren't into hockey

right i was a frail young uh mushroom haircutted pakistani teenager so i wasn't really gonna be playing hockey yeah but i i did i tried to i tried to like collect the hockey pucks in the rink to like pretend that you know right but i'm out here guys again are you wait but when you get on a rink do you ever do you have to get free like jack's talking like, I need to feel the wind on my face. It's funny you mentioned that. I didn't go for a long time. And then I think maybe five years ago, my wife, Lauren, and I, we went.

You can skate, like, in downtown Boston at, like, the outdoor frog pond in the winter. So I did that once. And then there's also, like, a rink by our house. And when you don't do it for like 20 30 years or whatever like it requires some balance and core strength and but it definitely came back to me like i was able to like i think like in that first hour like start skating backwards and stuff and at the time there was actually like a group of 15 or 16 year old whatever like hockey's figure skating stars doing all the like axles and shit like all around us so we were just trying to like hobble you know

like around the thing without falling so it did come back to me though i like to think my life would have taken a different turn for sure i grew up playing hockey and again i was just a bizarre black and asian kid in the late 80s with a mushroom haircut at a certain point okay you know was it was it a middle part oh hell yeah because it was like a surfer you know because a surfer do it happen but then my mom wouldn't take me to get a haircut so then that turned into some other shit uh like after a few months with no haircut but you know with being on the ice like every time i go to like someone's like roller skating party or like ice skating party half the time i ignore everyone just to skate as hard as i can to remember like come on little legs do what you know you get those memories yeah

damn i wish hockey did have i would probably watch hockey if it incorporated like axles and double axles and shit like if that's how they like my wife up. My wife, the only sport she actually, she's like a punk rock neuroscientist, but she likes hockey. That's like the one sport she's like super into. Is she from like New England as well? Yeah, so she's from Nashua, New Hampshire. Got it. Oh, okay. I took my kids to a, like, it's kind of like a children's science museum over the weekend.

like it's kind of like a children's science museum over the weekend and they had a skating rink set up for sock skating which is just you take off your shoes and slide around on your socks oh i thought you were going to say you like attach a skate to like your bare foot or like i was like that's pretty that's way but you had to pay to take off your shoes and slide around on a slippery floor. Okay. Which just made me feel very much like, damn, LA. Right. Is this what we've come to? Yeah.

I've heard of rooms that people pay hundreds of dollars in to sit and meditate to, you know. That's true. Wait, could you actually skate though on that? Or was it just a stupid quirky name for a slippery ass floor slippery ass floor but i mean people were having fun nobody was like it just seemed like people were you know like sliding around nobody you couldn't get up enough of a head of us head of steam to like really break your arms on yeah was the night was the night called like glide or something yeah right that would be a one night event all right well we are going to get to know

you a little bit better in a moment uh all right i hope you don't regret it i don't know can't wait but first we do uh want to tell our listeners a couple of things we will be talking about a little later on we're going to talk we're going to do an Omicron update because initial numbers show that it might be less severe, which is something we were talking about last week. We're going to talk about Islamophobia in Washington, D.C. The Democrats seem unclear on how to handle it. We're going to talk about, there's this NBC News headline that I'm just going to read. If Roe is gutted, Democrats are unlikely to make it law, but they'll run on it. So just wanted to check in with that being the current Democratic Party. on cannabis to help dispensaries compete with the good old old-fashioned drug dealers and we'll talk about using santa claus to promote guns it's been it's a long and storied tradition shockingly so we will talk about that uh all of that and plenty more but before we get to any of that shit shaja

han we do like to ask our guest what is is something from your search history? You know, I guess I can give a shout out to my, a good friend of mine, Aruj Afdab. She's a Pakistani American singer who recently has been nominated for two Grammys. So I just was, I just was Googling her latest, whatever, you know, pitchfork something said about her. That was very nice. So, yeah, I'm glad it's not something uh more embarrassing like the thing that i did write down was the overrated underrated so i was like i was gonna say that raccoons are overrated because i was having this argument with somebody yesterday so i guess like i was it's good that raccoons weren't in the search history there

is what i'm trying to say. Yeah. It's, it's, I was going to say, it sounds like you were searching a fellow internationally acclaimed recording artist. And I just, you know, Miles and I always talk about how, like, it's just good to have someone else who's internationally acclaimed on. Because sometimes we have a guest on who isn't internationally acclaimed like Miles and I are. And it's a little awkward. Yeah. Especially internationally acclaimed guests that are just like chilling in their parents uh yeah yo but like honestly you could pass off the background even though you are literally sitting with your back to your parents but you could pass off that background as like a like fake background because you know because it's the lighting i've got three lights i've got the natural light from the uh the window over there yeah so i take this shit seriously

absolutely uh what is something you think is overrated so overrated i was saying i think raccoons because i was having this debate with some folks was it yesterday or the day before and they were trying to tell me that raccoons are cute and they're just rodents, right? They're rodents with like little hands and they're terrifying. So I think raccoons are overrated. It's a very New England appropriate topic, perhaps.

I don't know. Do you guys have raccoons? You must have raccoons. Oh, yeah. I see them always cruising at night, you know? Yes. Like there's one in my like near my neighborhood who walks with so much confidence it's fucking scary right just like so slow like cars are like almost hitting it's always on the same street like around like later at night and i'm like here's that fucking punk ass raccoon

whatever the opposite of rocket raccoon is like slow slow boat raccoon i don't know i mean like i feel whenever i see videos of like people who have like 200 pet raccoons just chill with them part of me is like i would like to be able to enter their world and maybe soften my stance rather than being like this thing that tries to fight my cats i don't i don't need i'm good do you have some that are fucking with you right now like are they not current well what's the root of this anger what i realized also that i was i was having trouble distinguishing for some reason during this particular argument about rodents between raccoons and skunks but i think i think i hate both equally i'm pretty sure there sure there's a skunk that kind of roams around our street.

We live on the coast in Boston, so near the airport on the beach. Yes, there are beaches in Massachusetts. They're probably not as nice as yours. But then at night, raccoons sound like little banshees, basically. And the first couple of times, I didn't know that that was a raccoon. I literally thought it was a dying baby or I don't know. It was horrible. Wow, it threw you out.

Yeah. Man. Also, bald raccoons are pretty scary looking. They're, like, little. I don't know if you've seen any of these pictures. Like, a raccoon that has this parasite that robs it of its coat. Oh, it looks like a hairless raccoon. It's a mushroom cut. It looks like a hairless raccoon. It's mushroom cut.

It looks like a hairless raccoon. Yeah. Well, it kind of looks like, yeah, its skin is like elephantine. Oh, my God. And it's just a scary, like its face is really like mean looking without the fuzzy wuzzies kind of hiding it back there. Wow. I'm not sleeping tonight.

Yeah, check it out. Everybody Google it. I will. Bald raccoon. Yeah, bald raccoon. I just don't like the bald slander. You know what I mean? Like, why we got to go after the hair?

Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like, we can't all help it. You know? I used to have a mushroom cut. Clearly, I don't right now. You can see. I did, too.

All right, so you know. The genetics robbed me, and now I'm some animal to be compared to a raccoon. That's what I was getting at. I'm glad you guys. That's why. Oh, yeah. We were.

Hey, guys, check out this link. I just found a bald raccoon. I'm going to send it to chat. We click it. I'm like, this is my Twitter avatar, bro. What the fuck is this? I'm not trying to make a terrible joke. Yeah.

I mean, they are pretty like they can be tough to because they have the opposable thumb they can be tough oh that's right they're so fucking smart apparently they're like their capacity for problem solving memory like lasts for years yeah so like the second they figure out how to like open some shit or navigate some kind of obstacle that shit isn't a hard drive and it's like now anytime they get in that the same situation it's like yeah yeah so i think that's probably why they're such a you know nuisance to a lot of people is because of their their hands and their their memories i don't be up at night dreaming of this deviously intelligent bald raccoon tonight. Thank you very much.

In the lab. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Frozen kebabs from your parents' freezer. So my mom has this dude at a local Pakistani market who she buys like, I want to say, two to three hundred kebabs at a time um a pakistani uh market who she buys like i want to say two to three hundred kebabs at a time from him and she stores them in a freezer so anytime we come over she she just gives us a bag of kebabs so i had a couple before this podcast not gonna like i was trying to think

of what to what to talk about and uh so i'll go wait frozen kebabs. Look, I love, I love frozen food. I love kebabs. I like hearing the combination of words. Are they like pre-grilled or it's raw? They are pre-made. Yeah. They're all set. You just throw them in the microwave for 30 or you can, you can even like broil them or something, but they're fantastic.

They retain their moisture. These are like chicken, chicken kebabs, like chicken tandoori kind of kebabs. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For a place called Punjabi Grill. I love it. In Framingham, Massachusetts.

Shout out, uncle. What's the, like, okay, envisioning 300 at once. How many, how long does that last? Like, what's, how many kebabs per meal per person are you thinking with this? It depends how often I come over to get them. You mean like at my parents' house? Or just in general, like if you had 300 on ice,

how long would that last you if you were regularly, you know? In our fridge, if me and Lauren are having those kebabs, they're not going to last very long. I mean, we probably, like we don't have space for the, you know, we live in like a one floor, you know.

So we maybe grab, I would say 10 to 20 at a time, but they're so good. And there's such a perfect pre or post pretty much anything food and they're like pretty healthy. Right. So I'm going to go ahead and say maybe like three to four days tops. Woo. Yeah. Yeah.

Love it. Get it. Yeah. Yeah. I have, I should say this is kind of a belated sort of update, but we talked a lot a while back. Miles, I think you talked mostly about the air fryer being a good addition. The air fryer has changed. Someone else did, but I voiced my interest in it.

I'm because I'm, I'm air curious. Okay. We did get an air fryer in the past few months, and its ability to bring frozen foods of all sorts back to life is pretty incredible. I've heard some incredible things about French fries and chicken wings also. Yeah. I also don't have an air fryer. Frozen chicken nuggets are... It's like all I eat now. Yeah, it's basically the... How many kids do you have? None eat now. Yeah. That's basically the,

how many kids do you have? None. Two. None. Just not. I love the dinosaur shaped ones though. Those are so bomb. Yummy.

Yum. Yum. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to the dino nuggets. Yeah. We, when that mom,

uh, talked about going through eight gallons of milk a week, I think it was actually more than that. I was like, oh, that sounds excessive, but don't ask me about frozen chicken nuggets because we're putting up numbers on those. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, man.

You're just starting to feed your kids in Tiger King, just throwing shit on the back of a fucking tractor trailer, like, here, here, here. Just fucking have at it. Do you ever find yourself in Framingham, Massachusetts, walk in there and look for us, her uncle and be like, yo, Shah Jahan told me about these. Yeah. These chicken kebabs. Yeah. So, you know.

So I can drop that name. You're comfortable with that? You can't. A hundred percent. Actually, you know what? You should probably drop my mom's name, Tina, because she's the real celebrity. Okay. Oh, shout out, Tina.

Okay. Shout out, Tina. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if our listeners who live in that area, they're going to go like, yeah, dude, moms named tina because she's the real celebrity okay oh shout out tina okay shout out tina yeah yeah i wonder if our listeners who live in that area they're gonna go like yeah dude shout out tina she sent me here like what he's like giving her all these kebabs like yo thank you for all the business like oh i forgot to mention you'll have to pay for them yeah no not at all not at all i give you like a free sample no hell no i don't expect any real business owner to be like oh tina here's free food but be like damn tina okay keep sending he is a very sweet man though so you never know yeah he goes broke he's like tina you know i can't say no when you say people like bleeding me dry well don't put

him out of business like yeah yeah all right let take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine through powerful in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives forgive me for i have followed will be more than an exploration it's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history, people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys, I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.

soon women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.

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watching with bated breath to see what the initial reports were from the hospitals. And, you know, fortunately, they are following the path that we were hoping they would, like where a lot of viruses evolve to become more spreadable, but less intense and less deadly, because that is actually better for the life of the virus. Because if it doesn't knock you down or kill you, then it's able to be passed on to more people. So the initial findings were that it was very widespread based on the wastewater sample, which is gross, but, you know, shout out to whoever did that work because it was crucial. But now the hospitals are reporting that the hospitalization rates are lower, the intensity and, you know, length of stays is shorter, fewer people are dying. There was a very worrying report for,

especially for people with young children, that it was spreading like they were seeing way more pediatric COVID units, seeing patients. There's been no deaths in those pediatric units. So the initial indications are that it might be a less intense strain, which is great news, but also we're waiting to see because COVID has proven to be unpredictable and brutal. There still needs to be time to really fully see how much we see from hospitalization, that time it takes from infection to hospitalization to really fully see like you know how much we see from hospitalization that time it takes from infection to hospitalization to then potentially death but i mean yeah i think most i think all the like epidemiologists are like it's what we're seeing is good but i'm not saying fucking relax yet because at the end of the day the the plan is going to be the same no matter

how bad this variant is which is be vaccinated and do as much as you can to keep yourself safe yeah and i think it's just you know and i think the big worry now is that even though we're talking about omicron is that delta is still the the prevailing variant that's infecting americans as we go into the winter and there's going to be another surge and they're just saying don't keep your guard down still it's still the same thing and you know when you look at how much of a percentage of americans that are still unvaccinated like that still means millions of people as potential vectors and networks for infection to keep happening so yeah still yeah ongoing but at least it's at least the first things aren't just abject screams of horror coming out of these other places.

Yeah, I think that's where we're at. There are millions of possible scenarios. Many, many, many, many of them were very bad. And this suggests that we might have avoided some of the worst ones with this very specific variant. But yeah, the publicity around the Omicron variant did seem to lead to a spike in people seeking the vaccine so if we can keep that going if you're somehow a listener of this podcast and haven't gotten the the vaccine yet ignore what we just said don't let that dissuade you go get the fucking vaccine yeah yeah using anecdotal evidence in a pandemic isn't the

the best analysis method uh say that because i think a lot of people who are hesitant but would normally do something that's good for their own safety will say things like well the people i know like we're fine right and that's not the point if they were fine it's to be able to stop infections from happening and if you are if you're vaccinated then you can prevent you know the expanding infection rates yeah it's killed more americans than every u.s war combined like that's like so just try and get your head around that and still not take it seriously yeah but it's sad it's still not gonna happen you know because there's even a there was this recent study that happened that United States conservatives are the only group, only conservative political

group on Earth who isn't like actively fighting against using masks. They're like, it's really strange. Like even you go to other conservative like political parties in other countries, they're not on like this, like I'm not wearing no mask. It's like a very uniquely American conservative thing. We have a lot of uniquely American conservative. Yeah. Let's talk about another one, because I guess this isn't uniquely American, but there has been a lot of Islamophobia lately in Congress. Lauren Boebert's comments about Ilhan Omar over the Thanksgiving break have taken up a

lot of attention as, you know, Democrats are trying to figure out like what to do. Do they censure, remove her from committees, buy her a pink AR? I listen, you know, it's like, obviously, I'm not just piping up because I'm like a Muslim person, but like I, i you know we've heard so many of these kinds of things before but like i found myself the other day in the car just playing the message you know of like what whatever message was sent to to ilhan omar and it was just like it just made me really sad man that it was like and also because you know obviously because for the last year i've been working on this show and stuff and we have like a we talk about islamophobia and stuff a lot but but yeah it was just something about this one in particular where i was like you know it's still

it's like still a thing yeah and it's just so awful every time and sometimes you you know you get desensitized to it but you know every now and then it's just it just really kind of hits you there well i think if anything democrats have become desensitized to it but you know every now and then it's just it just really kind of hits you there well i think if anything democrats have become desensitized to it yeah oh yeah there's a lot of like what do we what do we do about lauren boberg i think to most rational people it's clear you address this bullshit and you do what you have to to make her account for her recklessness and her hate her hateful words that That's what you do. That's all it is because that should be everyone's response to hearing something like that is shutting it the fuck down

rather than being like, well, you know, I don't want to make martyrs out of them or whatever. And you're hearing a lot of stuff from Democrats where they're saying like, you know, the big problem here is they said they promised to retaliate if and when they regain control of the house in 2023 so like we got to be real careful here and there have been congress people who like that's the dumbest fucking excuse to say we won't do what's right out of fear for the reaction of the ignorant and small like that's if you're doing that then

what's the point of any kind of leadership? And I think the other thing too, is like the Democrat or the GOP also knows that keeping this kind of stuff in the headlines helps to completely derail any kind of agenda, because every week the headlines have to be talking about how racist or hateful the GOP is this week, rather than like, Hey, we have huge problems with income inequality, with access to health care, with all these other things that should be getting American people's attention to for them to have, again, because we have no imagination for anything to to get people to realize their potential benefits if, you know, there are certain certain kinds of policies that

can be passed. But yeah, at the at the moment, their calculus is we don't know how they're going to respond. We're afraid that if they get power, then they're going to use it against us or this idea that we can't give them more attention to campaign off of. And I think what's hard is some Democrats, like I'm saying, have become desensitized because one of them said that, you know, I don't know if we need to be removing her from committee assignments. He said, for me, the line for censure is if you're fomenting political violence. And I think the voicemail that Ilhan Omar played. Oh, it's legit.

It's pretty clear what has happened just in general. Lauren Boebert or not, or just a general tone of like the low hum of Islamophobia that's in the background of the country, that it is causing this kind of stuff. So it's, and then like they pivot to things like this one said, it just needs to become a campaign issue in the midterms, just to point across the aisle and say, Americans, do you feel like this conference is ready to govern? That's an actual congressman saying that the strategy is just to be like, we've joked about this, just gesturing across the aisle as a as a campaign platform rather than leading, rather than introducing ideas or trying to create something, you know, tangible. Yeah. I mean, that's just interesting to think about the conservative

party in America being unique and what has allowed them to be unique. And I think it's the lack of an option that is holding them accountable. Right. Like they just control the entire agenda while the Democrats are happy to kind of eat off of them, you know, just run as the not the republicans option and it's literally killing people yeah it's like using this thing in your mind comparatively where you're like well at least i'm not the worst student in class yeah and when there are only two students in class like that that's a very fucking dangerous better okay yeah but like that's like, yeah, I get straight D's, but this dude gets D's and F's. More F's than D's. So, vote for me. Yeah. Huh? That's not gonna do anything, and I

think that's what's really, just what's really sad, because you have a lot of members of Congress, like Rashida Tlaib, who's also Muslim, and saying, they've said they're gonna, if they regain control, they do want to strip committee assignments from me because I don't back down from shit. And she said, I'd rather get pulled from committee assignments and shut up because I'm not doing that.

And yet you still have a lot of Democratic leadership that's not really coming out here being unequivocal about how they are going to address this. And it just, you know, it makes you sad because you're sitting on the sidelines while someone's out here clearly articulating hate speech about another member of Congress. Yeah. And I mean, we our next story is basically the exact same story. But with regards to Roe, like Roe's on the verge of being gutted under a government with a democratically controlled Congress and White House. And what's that? I'm sorry. I'm just I'm so used to saying the full trinity of Congress just to keep showing them how much they control. Got the DOJ, the Senate.

Yeah. Yeah. And like, you know, I guess you could argue the management is basically a fake Democrat. And so they don't have the Senate. But, you know, Collins has said she supports encoding Roe as law, but we're not hearing about plans to work with her to nuke the filibuster to protect Roe. They are instead talking about letting them gut Roe and then letting people die and then running on that. That is the strategy. You know, people will die because of this. It is wildly unpopular politically to gut row,

but they will not do the thing that they could be fighting to do because it's too good for fundraising. But that's the thing. I don't know if it is, right? I mean, I know that on a sensational level, you can be like, we got to do something. But more like more and more people are getting very frustrated, too, to say, like, well, what are you doing? Rather than just saying, like, they're going to gut Roe v. Wade.

We're controlling both chambers, kind of. And the White House. What are we going to do? And it's it. I don't know. Like, it's just more disheartening, I guess, for me, but I'm maybe more, I know, I'm more politically engaged than the average person. But to see that and to try and trade off of that seems like not the best way to demonstrate like why you're going

to like lead things well, without at least showing some effort to do that first, like, it almost seems like, we'll just throw our hands up and then campaign off of that because it is bad but let's not let's not let's not put it in people's minds that we might be able to do something about it yeah you know like and also just like and this like the last stories about our like islamophobia in this country and this one's just about patriarchy and misogyny and like i'm completely unable to even like articulate that in the coverage around all of this like it's very just turned into horse race talk again like on the news yeah no i think the democratic party is like in a death spiral i think the democratic party is in the worst shape it's ever been in i truly do I believe that. While they have the president

and both houses of Congress, because like they ran as much as they could on like being the alternative. And now they're the alternative. They're not doing anything other than gesturing to the other side. Like people can't ignore that.

And I think they're just locked into this losing strategy because that's how the people who are in power came to power. That's all they know. And there's also this buffer of an entire industry of political strategists and political advisors who are based on understanding, like, fundraising and all this bullshit. So they are entrenched and they are a hive mind of really intelligent people working to make sure that the politicians, the Democratic Party, doesn't realize this and doesn't, like, understand the danger of, like, this current strategy. doesn't like understand the danger of like this current strategy so yeah like just you know just like how republicans they've they have like an evolved accelerated evolution because they're

doubling down on like their worst thing which is just like hate you know like at the end of the day like that's what it was all about and with a lot of democrats their whole thing has been not really solving shit ever. So doubling down on that is just leading to like more of this like diffuse, weird, confused, like where's the line with Islamophobia? Where's the line with reproductive rights or human rights and things like that? And they're just like in there and they scratch their heads looking at polling numbers, just like crater. And they scratch their heads looking at polling numbers, just like crater. Right. Rather than knowing that there's like an omni, like we're experiencing an omni crisis.

Just fucking pick one thing to start doing. To lead on. And people will be like, hey, that's doing something. Whoa. Wait a second. Yeah. What the hell is this guy talking about? Yeah. For some reason, I just had a flashback to the first season of Handmaid's Tale, you know,

which part of it like takes place in massachusetts also but just kind of like watching that and thinking about you know knowing that these things have been in place for so long that there have been you know little efforts to chip away at this kind of stuff and seeing it in a way like come to life like you guys said before our very eyes is not the greatest feeling yeah and it makes you feel really uneasy when you have a supposed party who's like you know oppositionally or maybe yeah logically opposed to it and they're just watching the the tidal wave come in and like not even saying anything and yeah like because you know i think traditionally it's been like the party of

like the good and the right or you know right at least the party of like not upsetting the dinner table yeah with a hot cake and then unfortunately we're in the worst situation like the good and the right and or you know right at least the party of like not upsetting the dinner table yeah with a hot cake and then unfortunately we're in the worst situation where we need people to speak up and it's just crickets and i think that's why the atlantic this week has like put out a huge sort of series of articles about like hello fucking democracy is about to get just skull fucked by the amount of partisans that are being put into electoral board positions for the republicans to be able to do their very like clearly articulated plan which is to negate election results that they don't like and like joe biden's been like oh man that's uh that's

that's scary like oh what so yeah i'm glad you brought up the handmaid's tale we we talk about that particularly season one a lot because that's the season that's actually based on the margaret atwood book and that book is a collage of details from historical like societies how historical societies have oppressed women it's not it's not like some far-fetched imagining she's said like no i just did research on how history has done this and use that to build a scenario in north america basically yeah no i mean my i think the thing i liked the the most about it was the the three kind of time periods that they were sort of seamlessly going between you know as far as like you know this is what shit was like before right before shit got like really fucked up and now we're here in the

present and yeah yeah and it's like yeah it's like not that far from where we're at. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. It's weird that like I wonder if he was like, well, they wear clothes that are different to how we dress actually that it just goes over like, oh, yeah. OK, so we can't even do metaphors or like very heavy handed ones for people to sort of get the picture. Yeah.

But again, I mean, like, that's why it's, we keep finding ourselves in a position where a lot of people are like, this is bad. Why aren't people doing something about it? And rather than just letting it end there, I think you should look at this data to say, there's going to come a time. And for most people, there already is a time where you're going to have to rely on other people that you may have to be a person to provide assistance to someone to uplift them or give them offer them safety because as it looks like legislatively speaking there isn't much to protect people in need and i think that's i think that's another scary realization people probably don't want to make is that there there is a lot

more of like relying on each other that we're going to have to be doing. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. For anybody who's of the just vote variety of Democrats or liberals, this is why I think people are frustrated with that answer. That doesn't make sense anymore. Because we did that how many times in a row? Yeah, yeah. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about weed hey hey i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil

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So, I don't know. I find this interesting because it's the unofficial black market putting pricing pressures on, like, the official market. And I feel like that's happening more and more. Like, we saw the, like, Stunks subreddit cause, like, big swings on Wall Street, which isn't exactly the same. But, like, I don't know, it has the similar, like, unofficial moving the official. And it also made me think of the i saw a sign on like the side of the road which is you know that's where we're getting our news from this

is a second rate podcast so just just in case but it was like you know how miles in la there's like the signs of like phone number and it's like for i buy houses for cash yeah i buy houses for cash i'll help you put up your christmas lights and like it's just a big phone number i'm starting to see ones that say they will give you cash for diabetes testing strips oh i've definitely seen a bunch of those yeah where i'm at too yeah i can think of one in particular at this uh in revere, Mass, right on the road or either. Yeah, because they're, you know, cheap to people with some insurance or, you know, cheaper and then criminally expensive to people without. And it seems like the black market is taking advantage or like, you know, filling that

need. Right. So I don't know. This is more of like a zeitgang. It'd be interesting to hear about other examples of that happening because I feel like it's going to be happening more and more as financial inequality

continues to expand and like the corporate world and their governmental benefactors or employees, I guess, get more and more out of touch. Like black markets will continue to play a more and more important role it feels like right because like a lot of these like i know they say they're trying to

compete with like illegal drug dealers or like illegal cannabis businesses which they have those all over california those are typically spots that are going you know extra legally not regulated and aren't collecting taxes so they're usually way cheaper than like the flashy like MedMen dispensary that looks like an Apple store. Because, you know, at the end of the day, when you add all those taxes up, it's almost like, wait, weed is more expensive than when I was like, just buying it from someone else. I mean, the packaging is wonderful. But I know that also to grow legally, I mean, there's a lot of bureaucratic

loopholes and fees and licenses to pay for that keep a lot of like sort of old school growers who are helping the illegal market. It's not helping them transition to a legal business. So you're going to have these other things because people are like priced out of doing business legally. And then on top of it, you see that there there's a cheaper product yeah it's uh it's it's like it's a very familiar thing that i think a lot of people especially in la like buying legal weed for the first time like it's like really expensive i didn't yeah i know i've heard that so many times from people yeah and yeah and i mean but it's funny this this this story is being used in so many different ways like on fox news they're like san francisco's like the weed robberies are so out of control.

They got to stop their cannabis tax and stuff. Because there have been some like, you know, dispensaries being robbed. I think that happens in many cities that have dispensaries. You know, it's a target with probably a lot of cash and, you know, other goods that you might be able to resell. with probably a lot of cash and, you know, other goods that you might be able to resell. But, yeah, it's funny when you search this headline, like the many different dimensions that people are saying.

The Fox News, San Francisco crime surge prompts city to suspend cannabis tax to help dispensaries versus drug dealers. Yeah. I mean, but I think they have to compete with. It is a little bit hard to compete right now, I think. Yeah. And I feel like this is like one way the like cutthroat american way of like finding this is like not not that this is dual power in any sense but it's like there are going to be people finding alternatives to the official way of doing business because that has become so inhumane and

just fucked. So unfortunately, it's usually just to like make money. It always, it never ceases to amaze. I don't know that it's still there, but there's, you know, a pretty big prison on the Mass Ave kind of Roxbury line called South Bay in Boston. Yeah. And right when kind of when all this stuff was starting over the last few years, you would see kind of right across the street. It's this heavily sort of gentrifying area where they're trying to, you know, where a lot of the homeless services are, where a lot of the methadone stuff is too.

And we're obviously the city's literally trying to just like kick all those people out and stuff. But I remember seeing those, the signs for those very big kind of corporate, you know, corporate cannabis, like up there, literally just across the street from the prison. And I always thought that was just such a like ridiculous kind of dichotomy thing there. And as somebody I'm, so I've been in, in recovery myself for about, uh, going on 11 years. Nice. But, you know, as someone who doesn't use cannabis anymore, I'm definitely not one of the like, I support that like wholeheartedly to me as far as like, you know, if it comes to like, hey, you're not trying to do opiates. And so you're like using cannabis and stuff like for by all means, go for it. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. by all means, go for it. Yeah, absolutely. I'm just generally rooting for anything where the thing people are doing to get around whatever capitalist obstruction there is is actually not hurting anyone. Because there are definitely other ways people can go about it.

Was it LA or was it san francisco forgive me if i am remembering this incorrectly that uh decided to retroactively commute the sentences of people that were incarcerated did it first it was okay is la doing it as well or so back in september the da said they were going to dismiss about 60 000 past convictions okay and continue to i think go through because i mean i think that was also part of you know i think a lot of people pushing for it in the state saying like if if you're going to do this like you have to address all of the people that have been put in prison but if it's now legal then like fucking address that because it's been disproportionately affecting people of color. And then now look at the people who are primarily profiting off of the legal cannabis industry and it's not people of color.

Yeah. All right. Well, let's talk about how the right is using Santa Claus to promote guns. This has been a headline over the weekend. headline over the weekend thomas massey a congressman from kentucky posted a family christmas portrait in which everyone is posed with an assortment of like assault rifles yeah and smiling and it says merry christmas ps santa please bring ammo el paso ammo yeah which is cool no magazines in their gun in the gun so maybe that's why they're maybe they just want to be really safe right yeah there you go see see if it direct you know right although i like how thomas massey's holding a fucking m60 yeah like and for my little girl see you can't get a big gun here

hold this uzi yeah the uh the young picture woman in the picture is holding an uzi but el paso county sheriff's office tweeted a photo of photo of Santa Claus applying for a concealed handgun permit. They had to run that back, issue an apology. Yeah, people were like, I don't think the idea of Santa needing a handgun is as uplifting as you think it is. As we had originally envisioned it to be. And so they had to be like our bad sorry i'm surprised the text of that tweet was like you know how fucked up it is out there right even santa's trying to get a ccw this wild so wild west folks stay strapped your local police of force

epso intended to highlight our staff in the concealed handgun permit office not to be insensitive i'm sorry wow sam correlates to the month of december and we thought he would help to recognize our hard working staff that's all you can just say thanks to our hard working staff in our office yeah yeah but hey guess who came to receive his concealed handgun permit today? Yeah. Was the text that they tweeted with the picture. So this has been like a long-term thing, actually. The idea of a gun-toting Santa is like pretty appears to be a rifle and told parents that santa would be speeding over rooftops loaded down with steven's firearms for the youths of the land so it's not just like a fun juxtaposition of like this fun christmas thing with deadly guns that

trigger the libs like this this is Santa giving kids guns. Like, Oh my gosh. Yeah. I'm trying, I'm trying to think of the Muslim equivalent, like, you know, after,

after Ramadan or something on Eid, like you, sometimes we, you know, we would traditionally give, I mean, to keep up with American capitalism. Yes,

we do presents and stuff now, but that's not really what you would do at Pakistan or, or, you know, wherever. Uh, but like you would, you like you would you there's this thing called ed so you give cash and envelopes so in my head i'm thinking like oh what are you just giving little like bullets or whatever i don't know right yeah and then imagine the outrage right because a lot of people pointed to the fact that like imagine that christmas photo but it's a family of color a muslim family a black family like then what's what are the headlines going to the fact that like, imagine that Christmas photo, but it's a family of color, a Muslim family, a black family. Like then what are the headlines going to be about that? Yeah.

Oh, my God. There's a guy, John Snyder, who's a gun lobbyist who would routinely send out Christmas cards featuring Santa brandishing a firearm, threatening burglars and poised to gun down a dynamite wielding quote terrorists who for some reason is attempting to take out a single christmas tree dynamite oh okay yeah in 1985 even his supporters were a little bit put off by a card in which san aniel's next to a slumbering baby jesus holding a rifle yeah and then in 89 he sent out a card featuring the Archangel Michael shooting a drug dealer in an alley lit by the Christmas star. We were just, I was in Connecticut visiting someone for over, whatever, it doesn't matter when I was there. And, you know, going to one of these like super America gas station stops or whatever. I'm sure people are familiar with it, taking a road trip.

And I remember one of the licensed place we saw was kind of like that. station stops or whatever i'm sure people are familiar with taking a road trip and i remember one of the licensed place we saw was kind of like that it was like a family gun thing and it literally just had like all of the guns from like just small it's just like yeah yeah dude yeah but you look that guy actually just anthropomorphized his own guns here's my baby callie wow it's like sir that's a revolver is it just like i guess i was talking about road trips a little bit but is it just a total i i think it's irreconcilable right that whole thing i don't know like i thinking about all the road trips i've done touring through the country just especially you know when you leave the cities like yeah it's like it's such a big this country is such a huge place and it's like I don't know when

you're in the middle of like Wyoming or whatever I don't know yeah it's a very specific type of you know cognitive I don't even know what to call it but i think it's basically that we it's one of these like freedoms in quotes that we have you know our lives are not actually free in america even though we define ourselves as like the home of the free and it's like this is one of the freedoms that they have like grafted their you know identity as americans onto because you know and there's probably part of them that recognizes that well the fact that you work for a corporation that doesn't care if you live or die and that you need to work for them to avoid dying because of like the way health insurance works

in this country like they probably recognize that that's not actually like a free society so like that that's where i think the just outright kind of mania around this comes from and kind of the inability to recognize like why people would be offended or like put off yeah i remember i mean not too long ago uh we had uh at one uh there was like a birthday thing for my my wife who again she's from nashville new hampshire and you know she's been she's pretty like i don't know not a fan of guns but like a friend of hers that was there, just it wasn't even like he just was like, oh, no, no, it's just it's just different where we're at. Like it wasn't even like it didn't become necessarily like as maybe antagonistic as I would have normally intended it to. Because at that at that moment, the way that he said it, he was like, yeah, you know, we have two kids at home.

We got a couple of guns and then everybody has guns on our block but like in that moment even saying this now like i can't believe i didn't say but at that time i just was like oh it's just a different different way of being i don't know yeah i'm not i'm not a fan i don't know yeah i don't know yeah different people have different relationships to weapons you know especially there's the people who like there's white people who are living in fear of like a brown america and that's a motivator yeah you have a lot of minorities who realize i'm not sure law enforcement will protect me so i see no reason to just look at these maniacs who are you know

gooned up with guns and wait for a you know, a law enforcement agency that I'm not really entirely sure will protect me. That drives another one, I think, so that everyone has so many roads towards it. Yeah. But yeah, like to the point of like, I think people swap out their lack of freedom with just saying, well, at least I can have a gun. Yeah. And like, if it all goes to hell, the gun will make things better. If I have no health insurance, I can go. I've seen a movie where a dad used a gun to get their kid like treatment at a hospital.

Oh, yeah. What movie is that? I don't know. But I remember seeing that. No, I feel like. No, that was a movie. Yeah, for sure. Like with a big time actor.

Not like. Right. It's like, I think that. Not produced by Ben Shapiro. Right. The moral of this is that, like, see what like that's an actual lack of recourse that is driving people to certain directions and i think that's what's really frightening too is that rather than being fixated on whether or not you can have guns like really sort of try and understand the stresses

that you're experiencing because it might not just be this boogeyman that you've made up in your head. Or you got the dude who's on the street next to me who has that fucking terrorist hunting permit nine 11 Oh one sticker on his truck. Right. You know, and I, when I go for runs and I pass that thing, like what,

what am I supposed to, I don't know. Yeah. Wow. Your neighbor. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. There was a, actually in our town over the summer, this was not a story, man, in the news. Like it may have been for 24 hours. There was a 28 year old PhD student named Nathan Allen who stole a plumber's truck, uh, with the intention we found out later of crashing it into the jewish temple that's at the end of our street he didn't make it there he crashed into like a house he got out of the the truck with it with a like whatever handgun he like and he had he didn't have shoes on or something

and he like this is 2 p.m on like a saturday he walked past everybody else shot and killed the two the only two black people that were like on the street corner where I like go for runs all the time. And then like the, you know, and, and, and they found that later they found like a backpack with guns and ammo.

And like, he basically, who knows, knows what the hell he was going to do. But this was like a white supremacist terrorist attack in Winthrop, Massachusetts. Yeah. And like, it was my

parents here in where i'm sitting in bill rick i didn't even like care about it yeah so wow yeah i mean i think that's the again always part of like a pattern we see in the news is to say like when there are like clear hate attacks that are perpetrated by white people it's they'll find many reasons to either cover it very in a such a nebulous way that you're missing the point or just in a very reduced way because it you know it doesn't feed into i think what a lot of american people think white terrorism could be yeah and just back to the gun thing, there's this trend, apparently very popular, of staging photo ops at gun clubs where kids can get their picture taken with Santa while holding an instrument of mass death. being on trial for uh manslaughter like will these people like come to their defense because they bought their kid a gun and like that's basically what they're on trial for like i don't i don't know it's kind of a a weird one because there's a lot of mistakes along the way and i

think they'll just point to i don't know i mean yeah we'll see what they start saying but and i think just this whole santa thing it's just kind of funny because it just made me realize, like, even in I think you should leave Tim Robinson. There was a whole fucking bit about Santa being a gun toting, like murdering cop. Yeah. Well, Santa plays a gun toting murder. He's not actually. It's like that's it's like it's a cosmic gumbo. It's kind of a cosmic gumbo, right?

It's kind of a cosmic gumbo, the way that he, you know, he inhabits the role. You'll forget it's Santa when you're watching the movie. It's actually pretty... Don't refer to me as Santa, okay? I'm a fucking actor. It is a theme. Yeah. Well, Shah Jahan, it's been such a pleasure having you on TDZ.

Thank you so much for having me. Really appreciate it. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me at Shahjahan, S-H-A-H-J-I-S-T-A-N on Instagram. I just made a Twitter. It's not very good. I mean, you can go there if you want. You can also find me at ShahjahanKhan.com. And please subscribe to our series, King of the World. Yeah, yeah. Anywhere you get podcasts. Do it. Go now.

Right now. Right now. We'll wait. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? I actually, there's this tweet by my friend Tarun. He's a kind of a prolific electronic musician out in Vancouver. And lately what he's been doing, I'm sure you guys seem like you use the Internet from time to time. Maybe you've seen this where people put like sensors.

I'm putting it in the chat here on on plants and like make music out of like the signals that they get from plant it's super nerdy wow so he like threw some stuff uh this particular one i think he put him on a couple mushrooms and just like turned it into some like weird crazy shit so wow he's an awesome dude tyrone he's out in vancouver he started this band delhi to dublin and stuff and really cool guy that's super dope yeah we'll link off to that in the footnotes i like that you know it was nice and nice and peaceful it's been uh it's been a fucking crazy ass year so i uh was just zoning out to some some mushroom plant music yeah miles where can people find you is there a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram

at Miles of Grey and also the other show 420 Day Fiance I talk about 90 Day Fiance and weed too, with Sophie Alexandra Some tweets I like, first one is from at SoloDeath1 It says, nothing in life will radicalize a person faster than a medical diagnosis in america

which is true we see a lot of memes on the internet too of people getting like bills and just posting their medical bills to like help people understand like yeah i had a panic attack and now i could have bought a fucking maserati so what the fuck is this another one is from at the hype with four wise tweeted so did you make her come nah man i don't make women do anything i'm not controlling all right sorry and you were you were taking your your love of all things reality tv to the stage. To the stage. Coming to the stage. Yes, exactly. On December 9th, this Thursday,

going to be doing a Will You Accept This Rose live show. You might recognize people like Gareth Reynolds or Padgett Brewster or Carl Tartt. They're there as we compete for Arden Marine's heart. And you can get tickets at Moment House. So look for the Will You Accept This Rose link there. We'll have it in the footnotes. So, you know, come through. Watch it. It's going to be, yo, like Anna has put in work. It's going to be a production.

Okay. It can be all kinds of bits, segments, coverage. You're going to love it. So come check us out and come see me in a very interesting outfit. And I will be there talking shit in the comment section. So be like like where's Jack What's going on

Why does Jack O'Brien keep saying Where's Jack Be like dude change your handle If you're gonna troll You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien Some tweets I've been enjoying Kylie Brakeman tweeted me signing a PDF document This is exactly like the TV show

Succession. Like DocuSign. Yeah, exactly. I identified with that. Oh, J.M. McNabb, our writer, J.M. McNabb tweeted, Podcasters, please stop pausing to

collect your thoughts. It makes me think I'm getting a phone call. That's just good advice. I do, like I get a little, my heart rate rises a little bit. Every time there's like just dead air, I'm like, uh-oh, someone's calling. I have to talk to a real person and not just stay bathed in a parasocial relationship. Oh, and Trash Jones tweeted, I live in constant fear of being asked to share a fun fact about me.

I think that's about it. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you

might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy okay this is a really interesting uh like reggae dub sort of remix of erica badu's on and On by this artist called Red Astaire. And it's funny because if you look at the album cover, it looks like a Red Stripe beer label, but it says Red Astaire. But this is Red Astaire with Rolling Stone. And this is kind of dope. I love hearing mashups like that where the vocals absolutely work, even though if it's a little forward thinking,

but you're like, oh shit, this goes. Did you ever see the mashup of Vanessa Carlton with Rage Against the Machine filling in the name? Yes. That's the one that haunts me. Yeah, it does. They didn't even change the pitch. No.

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