The Daily Zeitgeist - Once Upon A Zeit In ShaoTrend 8/27: Trump, Martin Shkreli, Wu Tang Clan, Rotten Tomatoes

Episode Date: August 27, 2024

In this edition of Once Upon A Zeit In ShaoTrend, Jack and Miles discuss Trump's low-energy vibes, Martin Shkreli being ordered to give up all copies of Wu Tang's "Once Upon A Time In Shaolin", Rotten Tomatoes introducing the "Verified Hot Audience Badge" and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeartTrue Crime Plus, only on Apple Podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Once Upon a Trend in Shall Trend. Oh, that one courtesy of Miles and I just needing to come up with a trending title. Hey, come on, man. Make it sound a little more mystical than that. I mean, from our writer's room.

We read from the scrolls we've been writing on for hundreds of years now to find the perfect short show title. We found these scrolls buried underground and they were written in our handwriting. Oh my god. Wow, that would be kind of... It's like a Michael Crichton movie premise. Okay. Like a bad one. I'm not saying it's like good. I'm not saying it's Jurassic Park. Yeah, but it's Crichton.

He's got some misses out there. Yeah. Why am I on trial here? My name is Jack. That is Miles. And these are some of the things that are a trending. Donald Trump is, he seems very low energy these days. So low energy. Yeah, we got some clips of him speaking where he, like, we talk on tomorrow's episode, like, we play a couple clips that, like, made me so sleepy I fell asleep on tomorrow's episode.

Yeah, they're very, I mean, he just, like, doesn't, I mean, I think we talked about last time how, you know, former aides are like, this dude's, like, phoning it in. Like, we've seen him, like, give up, and this is kind of what it looks and like like we've seen him like give up and this is kind of what it looks and sounds like uh for trump the old give ups uh but yeah the energy is very low even when he is trying to be racist or misogynist it just doesn't have damn that used to be the thing that brought it out of him you know yeah exactly uh just here just to give you an idea this is him ranting in detroit while like no talking. Again, because he has such high energy. He ignored the pleas of the mayor and the police chief to deploy the National Guard in Minneapolis. And said, you're not highly trained soldiers.

You're 19-year-olds who cook. That's what he said. You're 19-year-olds who cook. That's pretty famous. Who what? Cook? I don't even know, dude. Let the National Guard cook. Let let him cook let them cook so yeah the energy again historic lows for him um and that

could always change but anyway uh but according to the insiders at mar-a-lago trump is big sad and the only thing that sort of brings the vibes up in the building for him and his inner circle of donors is when they see themselves on TV and themselves. I mean, Trump on TV. So the campaign recently spent about $50,000 to run these 15 second spots on the big news network, specifically in Palm Beach County, where Mar-a-Lago is. That way, old baby fart can see his rotting corpse face on the tv and get excited about it um and apparently this wasn't the first time this happened in 2020 uh in the lead up to the 2020 election his flunkies did like a 400 000 ad buy in dc or something like that in dc because he was sad about his poll numbers yeah that's wild yeah but yeah his campaign is like claiming they're doing it to keep donors

happy but of course that wouldn't have made sense in 2020 when they did it like all around the white house right well i think the other thing though too is like it that ad buy does fuck all for him like campaign wise like i get palm beach county is a county, but you are in the state of Florida. So this is purely for Mr. Herdy. Yeah. Like, there's a thing in Los Angeles that it has, like, the greatest billboard economy in the United States because they buy billboards for movies and various projects that they know the movie star is going to be driving by so that the movie star sees themselves up there is impressed by it and is like damn my agents and the studio are doing their job you know so yeah right the the billboard game in los los angeles is wild like some beautiful like crazy designs uh well done by uh by them that's

what's always wild too is when it's award season and they're like for your consideration and you're like bro like one percent of the cap of the pot not even one percent of the population has any sway over like for whose consideration it's for an audience of one the person on the billboard um and these are ads for the you know the person in the political ad uh i yeah there there's this other story about how his campaign rallies might be harming him like they were talking about this campaign rally in pennsylvania where they like interviewed a bunch of the people in the crowd and they were just like i don't know man like he just seems seems off like here's this one quote i voted for him in 2016 and had a trump flag in the front yard i voted for him again in

2020 but didn't put the flag in that time i've been thinking of voting for him again because biden's been so bad for the economy and kamala won't be any better but after listening to that i'm actually afraid of trump being president again i don't know what he was talking about half the time perhaps he was always like that but he seems worse more unstable um i feel like that combined with the surrounding him with ads of himself. Well, yeah, I'm starting to think that like the best, we don't have a political analogy for him,

but I do feel like he is giving Elvis like, or, you know, celebrity who becomes so famous and insulated that, who becomes so famous and insulated that and isolated from reality that they just like start to like he's just up there repeating himself like fat elvis at the end of his career you know like just like kind of grunting through it just going through the motions um can't differentiate like a good performance from a bad performance just is like sort of feeding off of the crowd's adulation and like kind of holy uh you know adoration of him like you know which that that's not going anywhere because he's filling such a weird

need for these people and so he just like goes up there and like basks in that but and doesn't realize that like he's just giving the very least at this point right and i mean that but at least elvis gave us that one final show where he like killed it with unchained melody you know right where you're like oh this motherfucker dying he's dying and he's leaving it all out there i mean maybe i guess sadly maybe trump's version of unchained melody is just unchained election fuckery yeah um i mean yeah he's i i think that i mean the long speeches that are rambling and like everyone's like what is that like falling asleep uh happens to dictators also like you hear that shit about dictators all the time

but like trump really like and it you you can tell that like you know super famous person whose fame is driving them a little bit crazy one of the hallmarks of that is that they stay holed up in a home that they've built that has a name uh a la graceland or neverland with michael jackson prince you know uh prince's best case scenario he kept it together for a long time and like kept making good and like it was like a vibe to get in there rather than like yeah man everybody's been there bro right yeah yeah but yeah like that's kind of what i'm starting to feel like is the energy and we have seen like you said like this this might not be permanent we've seen him like ebb and flow as his adderall usage you know kind of yeah but i think what's kind of different right is like we're so used to

being like you never know how the like suddenly a thing comes out in the news and now the wind is back in his sails but this feels like so different than the other times like i'm i don't know really what to compare it to like in past things where it truly trump yeah yeah it just feels like it's like withering in this way that's different than like less popular or controversial like it feels like the life force of like his campaign or visa V him like I know the supporters are still dedicated but through him it feels like watching like a like a orange creamsicle melt in the Sun or something mm-hmm yeah I mean the access Hollywood tape was a real low point and it was closer to the election than we currently are i feel like so sure um but

then like even then right that was one of those things where people who were like uh wanting him to lose were like oh he's not going to come back from this yeah this is it's different than like can he weather a controversy like because we're past that phase of normalizing all of his shit right so now it's sort of like it's more like is this motherfucker for real like like that's kind of like even now what his supporters are saying like i don't even what where am i what is this again it was weird yeah it feels weird it feels like the energy's off uh and you do uh hate to see it couldn't happen to a nicer guy couldn't happen all right let's uh Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Martin Shkreli and his Wu-Tang album. What is it? Legend of Shaolin? Once Upon a Trend in Shao Tren. Once Upon a Trend in Shao Tren. Of course. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

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We're back. And, uh, Martin Shkreli back in the news. Uh, he's most famous for, you know, price gouging hiking the prices of

like life saving medication to a degree that was like cartoonish like 100xing it in some cases 5000% is one of the worst ones yes and then becoming famous and becoming extremely

rich from doing that uh with all that money he bought the one-of-a-kind wu-tang album once upon a time in shaolin at auction for two million dollars in 2015 on the condition that it quote not be released publicly and treated like a piece of contemporary art uh he this is is going to surprise a lot of people, did not do that. Ah, fuck. After he was forced to hand the album over to the US government, which is just weird.

The US government was like, give us the Wu-Tang album. Well, I guess it's securities fraud, so yeah, they're there to take your shit. But it is funny to be like, knock, knock, Shrelly, we're here for the Wu-Tang album. Like oh right the wu-tang album so it eventually made its way to a cryptocurrency collective who bought the album for 4.75 million dollars so it is going up in price it's yeah doing what there is a and co planned for it to do and the crypto guys then sued shkreli because after he got out of prison he held a wu-tang official listening party on social media bragging that he had made copies

and hidden them in safes all around the world which is that's that's that's called bullshit um i made it so if you kill me copies of the album will be played live in Times Square yeah right exactly you don't want fucking I got a dead hand trigger or whatever that thing what is it called dead hand system type thing he's like when I'm gone

like it will fucking stream everywhere bro you probably have a burned copy on a hard drive or you know whatever you have you burned copy on a hard drive like that's right you know whatever you have you ripped it on a hard drive and then yeah maybe you could have put it on dropbox and therefore it is around the world but trying to act like some bad guy it's like and it's in five different safes around the globe that you will not be able to find yeah he also streamed part of the album to celebrate trump's 2016 election win

and there's still clips online of him previously streaming a piece of the album to sell uh at that time so uh a judge has ruled against him which judges seem to like to do rule against martin it's like one of their passions one of their hobbies they've ordered him to hand over all of his copies of the album by august 30th uh he's also prohibited from possessing using disseminating or selling any interests in the album including its data and files uh so martin shkreli it turns out ah man again couldn't have happened to a nicer guy yeah what if that album is good like what if the album's like yeah it's basically on par with cuban links like it's i mean you have to be on par with like honestly at least i mean i mean there's only really if we're talking about bonus like the good wu-tang albums like the first two the first first two, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it that? I don't know.

I mean, if it was like a bunch of stuff, like Lost Cuts that weren't on 36 Chambers or like Wu-Tang Forever, there could be something good. So is it still the Cryptocurrency Collective who is the owners? Because that's wild. I believe so. I mean, I guess it makes sense because crypto, the whole idea is like creating a one of a kind digital, uh, you know, money. And this is one of a kind album. Uh, it's about creating a, and I am an expert on this. It's about creating a digital one of a kind money.

I'm holding five bitcoins in my hand right now. And they're heavy. Oh yeah. You feel that weight? Um, rotten tomato has added a verified hot badge so they're changing up their website and instead of just offering certified fresh for movies uh that are overwhelmingly praised by critics there will now be a certified hot badge for movies that get a positive reaction from us normies from the losers the swill you know so to be verified hot how do you get

rotten tomatoes verified how do you get twitter verified you got it just to be like to basically be like no this motherfucker saw it rather than like people review bombing yeah yeah so rotten tomatoes and this is what i'm why i'm always saying consolidation is good and always just deregulation. So Rotten Tomatoes is making so easy. They're owned by Fandango. So what they can do is they can ensure that the only people who can vote for a movie have a Fandango ticket to that movie. And therefore you're only getting the finest, most proof positive viewers of a film right so you can't it guards against review bombing not really it just guards against it

makes people pay 15 to review bomb but as we know super fans but then wouldn't there oh wait so but there would have to be like just regular hot or bad right and those are people you can't verify if they actually seen it and then there's verified hot because you know like these people have no i think vote on a movie at rotten tomatoes these days you need to have like bought a fandango ticket i could be oh oh oh so like they're just uh guiding everyone to fandango basically yeah you want to leave a review you want to leave a racist shitty review you better buy a ticket from fandango to do it star wars aren't women wait hey folks let him cook he bought

it from fandango they uh he's verified so you you need 90%. And so movies like It Ends With Us and Fly Me to the Moon, which were not adored by critics, are now verified hot. And if only this had happened earlier, maybe people would have gone to see Fly Me to the Moon, a movie. I heard it was bad it's the it is the most baffling like movie premise for me since uh the buzz late year movie where they were like what don't you want to know the origin of the toy of the guy who based right whereas this one is like hey man are you a loom like lunar landing conspiracy theorist and want a rom-com? Yeah. It's like, what?

That's Venn diagrams really shrinking your audience. Yeah. It's confusing. But yeah, I mean, there's obviously the concerns about review bombing because even with the Fandango provision, toxic fans still review bomb movies and TV shows. still review bomb movies and tv shows recently the star wars show the acolyte was attacked by racist fans because star wars is just always in the midst of like the equivalent of a religious war oh yeah yeah yeah well and the problem is too like they're shitting out so much like as a beloved star wars fan yeah they're just shitting out way too much content like to the point and if the quality is just like, bro, fine.

Tell me about the fucking Jedi that was made of bologna that I didn't hear about before. Do they have a whole show? Great, great, great, great. They've also tanked the ratings for a 2008 horror movie called Acolytes. So, apparently you don't need all. Every movie doesn't need a Fandango purchase. Yeah, this horror film. You're like, well the black jedi wasn't believable you're like what wait what this is a horror film i don't know i like in my use of rotten tomatoes uh usually i go to metacritic i think it's the superior site but

i generally ignore the audience reviews um sure do you do you give it any credence no clear water revival i've i talk about this a lot i think we have very similar strategies i need to hear it from motherfuckers i know yeah like because i i you know sure there's no i can see something is doing really well but it even if something is like universally beloved i still need someone who i know has seen it unless it's a movie i'm just gonna go see regardless i need somebody i know to like co-sign that that's i use word of mouth like from my personal connections more than anything so it's like it's in the same thing with like yelp to like review sites like that like reviews are just a weird phenomenon like the internet reviews that are just so hard to parse through and know it's like look are you do you hate your

life and you ended up at this dry cleaner on a specific day or you know are you a shitty husband and your birthday dinner for your partner went awry and you're taking it out on the restaurant because you had a lack of thinking you know what i mean like there's so many times when you read very forceful bad reviews and things like that or even positive ones or they're just kind of doing somebody a favor and be like yeah yeah man i'll throw a positive review out there it would be amazing like just putting it in that context if yelp contained 80 reviews from people whose full-time job it was was to review like local businesses like that would be

incredible that would be like one of the great resources that humanity had created like that we just got good like high quality reviews we have that for movies and they're trying to turn it into Yelp is like sort of my thinking like we have

a wealth of information and like writing and thinking being done about movies and TV shows. And we're not, we're not respecting it. We're just, we're like, yeah, but what does, what do people think about it?

People are wrong. People are wrong. A lot of the time it turns out. All right. um people are wrong people wrong a lot of the time it turns out all right those are some of the things that are trending on this tuesday august 27th uh shout out to my parents who's 48th anniversary it is today so shout out to y'all damn how they do them what's their secret i don't know i don't know a lot of't know. A lot of walks on the beach. I don't know how.

They don't know how. They take a lot of walks on the beach and shit? They spend so much time together. That's beautiful. They are a beautiful thing. Alright. Those are some of the things that are trending. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.

Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Happy anniversary! I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

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