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Episode Date: January 14, 2022

In episode 1064, Jack and Miles are joined by poet and podcaster Chelsey Weber-Smith to discuss Something something voting rights something something not enough votes, McConnell vs Trump, Someone Needs to Start Making a Prince Andrew Documentary Right Now, New Havana Syndrome Cases In Paris and Geneva, SoS Blinken Throwing Up Hands and more! Something something voting rights something something not enough votes McConnell vs Trump Someone Needs to Start Making a Prince Andrew Documentary Right Now New Havana Syndrome Cases In Paris and Geneva, SoS Blinken Throwing Up Hands American Hysteria PodcastListen: Mangueiro by BaiucaWatch: Miles' Sick Tech Deck Kickflip Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now, this, well, this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday, January 14th, 2022, which of course means that it is National Hot Pastrami Day. Get that cold pastrami out of here only the hottest pastramis and uh ratification day yeah all right the treaty of paris ending the revolutionary war you know the beginning of this fucked up experiment that we're in man i didn't even know that was a thing before you just said that it's such a like small part of like u.s history because everyone just seems like 1776 man that's the only date in the revolution but i get it this is when they said no more no more shooting at each other right you

guys okay well my name is jack o'brien aka jack skipped dr j's last game to watch Jaws 2 on TV, O'Brien. That's courtesy of Paul Garaventa. Thanks for bringing that back, Paul. I actually did do a little research because I think I said that it was the last time my grandfather played Dr. J. It was actually Dr. J's last home game in Philadelphia. It was, I just read, Dr. J gets 30,000 in final Philly home game. The last quote of this article. This was a very different night. 76ers coach Matt Guka says, a salute, a send off, and then Doc reaching his milestone.

You'll probably never see another night like this in NBA history. in NBA history. So that is what I skipped to watch a TV edit of Jaws 2, a movie that I could rent on VHS anytime. But, you know, I was who I was.

Right. But I feel like my life is... Yeah, life is full of those moments. You're like, what the fuck was I thinking? Like, if I had the chance to choose between those two things, I would have done it

completely the other way. But you had your priorities straight back then. Yeah. And also between those two things and i would have done it completely the other way but you had your priorities straight back then yeah and also i'm not sure i would have uh switched it if i had to do over again oh okay hell yeah you know i was real into sharks uh anyways i am thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray Drink pee Drink pee My friend Drink pee Drink pee Again

I won't get Omicron Nah nah nah I won't get Omicron Okay so shout out to Rando Dixonart On the discord for that Nirvana-inspired AKA. Yeah, obviously, Vaccine Police telling out here, drink your pee, man. Wow.

Keep yourself safe. The Discord is bringing it. Yes. Some fire AKs coming. It's inexhaustible at the moment. I got to just chip away at this thing. Yeah, and I don't look at the Discord. Just time.

Limitations. It's a time thing. I just feel like I would spend so much of my time in there. So my Twitter, AKA heads out here, just roasting me instead of giving me that, uh, just, just be like, Hey, remember that time you were extremely suspect as a six year of our favorite guests on TDZ, a poet and podcaster who you can hear on the American Hysteria podcast exploring the fantastical thinking, irrational fears of Americans throughout the years through the lens of moral panics, urban legends, conspiracy theories. Please welcome the brilliant and talented chelsea weber smith thanks for having me and i would have chosen jaws 2 thank you i think that was an act of love yeah jaws 2 2 right you recognize that it's not the original jaws it's just jaws yes okay yes i do which was at the time i thought a superior jaws, just because the shark was bigger, I think. And there were like some, at one point, the shark blows up a water skiing boat somehow. So those were the things that I was into.

Yeah. Get that Spielberg shit out of here. That's what's important. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I picked basketball over romance once, the Valentine's Day dance in high school. My friend and I i we just ghosted our dates because vince carter was going to be in the slam dunk contest and we had to see that that was the right choice okay that is my like flashbulb memory like for like my friends and i

i'm always curious like where were you oh yeah the dunk contest when Vince Carter did that reverse windmill 360? Denise Lazaro, apologies, you know, for talking the homie and then I going to the dip. But we knew it was going to be a whole event. And it was. Well, shout out to Melissa, my cousin Melissa, coolest person I know, who stayed home and babysat me while I watched Jaws 2. Chelsea, what's new? What's good? How have you been? You know, yesterday I was just working in my office and I hear what I think was like a bird fight. And I'm very interested in the neighborhood birds right now because I don't have anything else to do.

So I grabbed my binoculars. I went outside and it was actually two tiny kittens. So now I'm taking care of two tiny kittens that are like four weeks old right now. And that's what's up the whole day since then. I was going to say that bird fight is the British term for when dudes are like cat fight in America. They say bird fight. What's a bird? How did it? What's a bird fight sonically like that?

You're like bird fight. And you're like, damn, it's kittens. Well, for example, like some sort of predatory bird and the crows. You got like like it was like a very high pitched sound that almost sounds like a woodpecker like that. Like and then but it was yeah the tiniest loudest screams of these two perfect tiny kittens so oh you know what do you do now you adopted these kittens i mean i would say foster i think yeah yeah okay right i'm like the you know i'm like the grumpy old husband that's like well we can can't have these kittens and then later they'll be my

babies. Right. Attached to you. Right. I've seen those videos on TikTok before where it's like, Grandpa didn't want a dog. And then it's like, now they sleep together every day on the recliner. Yeah. We've got to set an example here. Otherwise, all these kittens

are just going to be coming to our backyard getting into fights. Yeah. Where does does it end every once in a while there will just speaking of bird fights and the crow example you'll just see like a crow just bombing through the backyard with something horrifying and in its beak and like a whole squadron of birds following it that's i feel like that's pretty regular these days yeah well you know they're taking over man i saw a crow and i saw this crow was eating like chicken bones and as i walked by he picked up one of the chicken bones and laid it across the other and like a perfect X. Yeah. That's how they let you know? That's bad, right? That's not good. Those birds are so smart, though.

That's not a good thing. I know. Yeah, crows are super smart. Can't they use tools? Like, there is a species of crow that they're like, it can use tools. Yeah, yeah. Crows use us as tools. Yeah. They use us as tools. They're like, oh, these dumbasses

always drive over this part so we're gonna drop the nuts let them one of my aunts in japan she used to feed these crows out her window all the time and at first they'd always be loud or whatever and then she's like you know like let me just give them some like scraps when i'm cleaning up and like they would come and eat and one day she was uh like frying something and like left her oil on and it spilled over and it started like and she fell asleep in the other room. And like she had like an oil fire in her kitchen starting up. The crows flew into her house and started cawing, like trying to wake her up. And like when she got up, she prevented her whole house from burning down because these crows came through with the fucking warning.

That's fucking bonkers, Miles. That's wild. That should have been the first story. The first thing you ever said to me was the story you just told me five years into our friendship. Yeah, sorry. Look, I can't give up all these gems off rip. I have a few stowed away. That's fucking awesome.

Wow. I guess they're loyal yeah yeah these crows are chelsea we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about uh we're gonna talk about how you know something with voting rights something the democrats are serious this time and uh you know that's something not enough votes yeah i don't know. We'll talk about McConnell versus Trump. Whoever wins, we lose. We're going to talk about.

So Prince Andrew got dropped by the royal family, kind of lost all his ceremonial shits. And I'm just making a pitch to the world right now. Somebody needs to get close to him and be like hey you got to tell your story let's start doing a documentary andrew because like i'll explain yeah right stop but i think it would be a one of the great historical documents just watching this person who has never encountered reality before it's like it's like if christopher guest did to make made gray gardens or something right exactly it's this odd in there now

we might not even talk about that that was basically my pitch right there yeah christopher guest go go man i also just want to talk about there's new havana Syndrome cases. I just want to check back in and see, Chelsea, if you have any updated thinking on Havana Syndrome and just talk about where I continue to be with that story. All of that, plenty more. But first, Chelsea, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? All right. What do we got? So, well, mine is Westboro Baptist Church,

Bill O'Reilly and Coulter would be the one that came up because our next episode is on the Westboro Baptist Church. So just been like, just steeped in it, you know, because we're trying to understand, not just throw things like, well,

God's actually loving, but be like all right where how did you guys get here what's your thinking what is your philosophy that allows you to do this because everybody's philosophy allows them to feel like they're doing something right so we're just trying to understand their whole thing and then also kind of tie that to outrage and outrage culture and how this is like one of those rare moments where the Westboro Baptist Church united us in our outrage, both the left and the right, by protesting funerals of AIDS victims and soldiers at the same time and kind of fusing them together. So we're like exploring all that. We're like exploring all that.

And then I kind of came across something interesting. And that was this conversation between Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly back in like 2010 when the Westboro, maybe you guys remember the Westboro Baptist Church was going through all this litigation because they protested this particular troop's funeral. And then they were sued by the family. And it became this like huge, huge, huge news story that year. And everybody was kind of paying attention to it. And eventually the family. So, yeah, the family sued them. It was overturned. They won.

It was overturned, went to the Supreme Court, and then the Supreme Court upheld their right to protest outside of these funerals. Right. And everybody was super mad. And then the argument was free speech. So I was watching Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly be very, very, very outraged at this offensive stuff and be calling for the Westboro Baptist Church to be silenced and that they had caused enough. What is, it's a tort of outrage is the law and it's intentional infliction of emotional abuse. So the conversation was,

are the Westboro Baptist Church causing enough emotional abuse to no longer be protected? And so I just find, I found it very interesting considering what I imagine are their opinions on other types of emotional abuse. Right. So it was just kind of funny. And there was like this great moment at the end, you know, because Ann Coulter is such

as, you know, she's just, she's so awful. But also she's got like that ability to be so snide that it's kind of funny. And at the end, and if she's being snide to Bill O'Reilly, it's this hard thing where I'm like pulled back and forth between who i hate but then she gives him after she explains why bill o'reilly she finds him to be correct that they shouldn't have been able to continue what they were doing and then she says at the end like the law totally supports your position bill and then he starts talking like well thank you thank you and then she just goes shockingly enough she gives this like shitty little smile and it's just roasted this video is just like so interesting so yeah that's my we're just like steeped in this weird

calvinist cult yeah thing and it's not exactly a cult it's just such a crazy story like watching all of them on howard stern right like they weren't just this church they were pop cultural super villain icons for a second like they were so much more than we remember i think when did that louis thoreau documentary come out i would say what was that early 2010s yeah okay right right right because that's when like that was sort of my first glimpse into watching them sort of speak, talk their shit. And you're like, whoa. Yeah, and be like a, be in like a, like watching them be a family is so odd, too.

Yeah, right. Because they are just a family, essentially, right? Yeah, and they're all lawyers. Like, it's a church with 70 members at most. Yeah, it's just not, it's not this, like, very, like, you would almost think of it as like a uh what like a very puritanical but they're like allowed to listen to music and wear whatever they want within reason and like they're allowed to do all these things that you wouldn't expect and it's like oddly normal like to go to public school and then during lunch they leave public school where they

actually do have people that are their like friends and then they just stand outside the school with you know science like all these awful signs and then they go back to lunch you're like all right mom i gotta go back to class it's exactly that yeah and so it's just this bizarre like really trying to get past just like the outrage of it and get like i mean that's what our show does and just like dig through the minutia of all of it. And it's been really, really interesting and how, you know, they were used by people like Jerry Falwell to be like, well, they're the real bad people. While Jerry Falwell is actually causing them, but not saying it in a mean way. Right.

But doing the same means and ends. They figured out like how to, you know, control a big portion of the discourse with just a handful of people and like some well-placed lawsuits like they were the original shit posters just they're you know completely devoid of any kind of coherent ideological content they were just doing shit to anger the mainstream media and get get coverage basically they did they were good at it they had a belief though jack i mean we we also took the bait man you know it's wild so right yeah yeah it's a strange thing you know to let 70 people be so powerful it's wild you know yeah i mean yeah right now we're letting like 40 50 of them be very powerful in

the senate so yeah what is something you think is overrated um i kind of struggled with this one but i feel like going and doing stuff is mine because i found that i'm much more of a like through this whole pandemic thing i found that i'm much more of a loner than I thought. And that's why I'm talking about bird drama in the neighborhood. That's what I'm saying is like I just go on these like there was that tweet in the beginning of the pandemic that was like nobody could do anything. So it was like, I guess I'll just go on another shitty little walk. And it was just like, yeah, that just never ended for me. And, you know, I know the local there's two eagles that hang out and on our football field and they kill seagulls on the football field.

It's very American. And I'm like walking by and they, yeah. And their names, and I looked it up and their names are Jay and Bay. That's what they were named by whomever names, like local like the local bird whatever society community so they like track these eagles so like i knew that the eagle went and had like special eagle surgery and the eagle was fine and yeah their names are jay and bay and uh you know we got a squirrel that we give some nuts to it snowed recently we made sure we took care of the hummingbirds. I don't know.

I was never like an animal person that much before. And now I just like, it's so much simpler. Yeah. Well, animals don't have political takes, so it makes it a lot easier to care for them. It's really not. Well, well, yeah. Not always. Except for that eagle.

Yeah. It's named after Joel Walsh of the eagles. It's pretty glaring, the metaphor. So the Eagles got interventional surgery to protect and improve their health, and then they used that to murder a seagull? I mean, I guess. They're doing their thing.

They do their thing. But it's not just once. Did anybody try and do emergency surgery on the seagulls? Or were just because the eagles are... They're the throwaway. Yeah. Got it. They're the jabronies.

Right. Yeah, science has officially recently... Designated. Designated seagulls as jabronies. A jabronie species. Yeah. Species of jabroni, actually. It's not a bird.

Yeah. I always see those takes about a lot of people being like, you know, the weirdest thing about pandemic or the thing that I've learned to do is to say no to things I don't want to do anymore. I mean, yeah, period. do anymore. I mean, yeah, period. Yeah, like that's been, man, the amount of like socially, like social pressure that I'd be like, yeah, I guess I gotta go do this thing, or I guess I gotta go meet up here. Now I'm like purely like, nah, you know,

like for me, just for like my own you know, sanctity and safety and sanity, I will, I just need to be chill by myself for a little bit. Yeah. And I think we have more empathy for people canceling now on us. like oh yeah i'm like no no worries no worries no worries no no tight tight tight tight yeah yeah yeah

be chill be chill but that's beautiful because that was a very stressful thing in life the codependent thing of needing to do whatever you said you do and now uh everybody has finally admitted how much we like to be able to cancel now i'm gonna look after myself and my needs yeah i'm not gonna i'm also not gonna lie to you and say i want to be here i'm gonna be honest when i want to be there yeah no i will continue to be lying but yeah i have definitely uh definitely, I will stay lying and maybe pick it up a little bit. But definitely the whole thing about avoiding situations where, yeah, like I was talking to my therapist about like, I think my social anxiety is getting better. And then I was like, wait, no, I just haven't been in situations with people who make me feel social anxiety for a couple months anyways uh what is

something you think is underrated this one's for miles and that is i'm getting back into tech deck tech deck is severely underrated and kind of disappeared except for in like weird pockets of youtube so i've been like trying to brush up, got this sick deck. My room's too dark. I'm in like a terrifying room for them. But yeah, I don't know. That's, I don't have like a lot to say about it. It's except that it's,

if you're a fidgety type, it's a really nice way to, and I, you know, I love doing little things where I can slowly improve and it's just simple, you know? And it's like, I can slowly learn new things and it's not, you know, I love doing little things where I can slowly improve and it's just simple, you know, and it's like I can slowly learn new things and it's not, you know. So that's another thing I do because I don't hang out with other people. So I'm reverting to 2001.

Our mini finger skateboards. Yes. Sorry. I always found confusing because my brain just immediately like turns that into some form of technology that i don't know about but oh no no we're going back in time here you ever get it you ever uh you ever mess with the tech deck jack no no i got i was too heavy into pogs straight through to you know modern day but yeah the one time i landed like a real solid trick on a tech deck luckily a camera was rolling and i'll never like i i only have one thing like only one piece of footy for my skate tape

uh but it's sick dude it's a nollie you still have it yeah i can find it's on my instagram and i i think i said it to fuck with me you know i got it by jay-z teaching rick ross perfect perfect now that was the first thing that he told me about when I met him. Yeah. It was that tech deck trick. And you're like, oh, what? You're like, dude, a nollie kickflip on a tech deck. What?

Yeah, I feel like it's coming back, man. Because it's like we got this early 2000s plague coming back of all kinds of shit. And I don't know. I think it could happen. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. Jackass is coming

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Marina Del Rey, baby. Oh, is that Marina Del Rey? No. So it was like an official daily show with YouTube, but our office was like across the street from the space right down there. Oh, okay. I got it, got it, got it. All right.

Well, let's start talking some news. Something with voting rights. Biden's pissed. Biden's going to do something about those voting rights. There's even been mention of filibuster reform to pass some voting rights stuff. But what's the latest, Miles? I mean, it's the same thing, right? And the Democrats are just watching another agenda item go before their eyes.

And this time it was, you know, it's about voting rights. They're like, all all right fuck the build back better shit okay let's try something else maybe people can get behind voting rights maybe we can get one or two republicans no uh so on thursday the house passed their voting rights package which is like you know more early vote days all all mail-in everything making election day a holiday same day voter registration, that stuff. Like also the John Lewis Act, which is sort of about making sure the DOJ had time to review, like certain proposals to like maps and things like that from states before they were implemented.

So, you know, but this has followed the pattern of every single thing we've seen with this current Senate, which is it'll pass the House house and then it goes to the senate where fucking gandalf is up in there because it shall not pass that's just the vibes in there and there's no movement on filibuster reform either we've joe mansion and kirsten cinema they've made it clear they don't want to reform shit not even to like help their party maintain power right okay so you know So, you know, there are, there are headlines like you're saying like Biden will huddle with the Senate Dems or Biden to make case for voting rights. But I'm really failing to see how this passes the Senate. It's not like any of the Republicans are going to join in on this or into the concept of fairness, but the way that I guess

like the way they're hoping to do something, as I've heard it described, I think Elizabeth Warren was like, it's like flying a plane and then building a landing gear mid-flight republicans are against making it easier for people to vote and then hope that then they'll come back around and be like yeah i like like let's let's reform the rules because i've seen enough now right it's very a lot of like senate mechanics but essentially it's a what we're looking at is somewhat of a hail mary pass or a hail satan pass right it's like doing what elizabeth warren said if you had done that like three previous times and every single time it crashed into the same spot in the mountain and you were like well how about this idea it's like you just described the thing that you have done over and over again that has failed every single time. Yeah. It's more like Laura Lee in Yellow Jackets taking off in a plane.

Wait a second. No spoilers. No, I'm not saying it. I'm just saying. That's, anyway, we've got a lot of plane energy flying around the zeitgeist at the moment, and it all seems to be very similar.

Yeah, I mean, all these things sound great. They seem like they should be transparently good, fair things that the mainstream media would be able to get people behind. I don't even know how you like argue against giving people a day off to vote. Well, some some people say like, well, you know, like in in my state, we have we have more early voting days than even like blue states. So I don't this is all just a bunch of panic stuff. And it's not about fairness. It's about power.

And on a certain level, yeah, it is, because I think the Democrats, it's like, yeah, if everyone votes like and they're not being like fucked over at the poll or prevented, chances are we look decent in a lot of elections. at the poll are prevented, chances are we look decent in a lot of elections. But yeah, this is this is just the gridlock that we're experiencing as we watch, you know, leadership completely not fit for the task of just, you know, maintaining voting rights. And sort of the fruits of the labor of conspiracy theories, I would say, where you can kind of put all of this under like lack of election integrity. Right. You can spread the same panic about the it's just like they just laid this really fucking scary groundwork for this kind

of stuff and i think it works on so many levels yeah of them being like oh oh right because everybody thought the last right you can just kind of like put anything under an umbrella of fraud right yeah yeah voter fraud voter fraud all right well let's talk about mitch mcconnell versus donald trump because that i mean they're not seeing eye to eye on stuff such as voter fraud mitch mcconnell has allowed that uh we had an election in 2020 where the votes were counted and and that is i guess like probably the core kind of difference between or where the votes were counted. And that is, I guess, like probably the core kind of difference between or where the kind of rift started between the two of them. Right. Yeah. I mean, just in general, right. Like Mitch McConnell has had his grip on Senate Republicans for a while,

and it's something that gives his whole life meaning. Like, you know, Trump had an agenda, but Mitch McConnell also had his like, you know, conservative fantasy agenda to getting all those judges confirmed. He did a lot of work, like with his view of like, this is how I want to fuck the country up. And yeah, sure, it'll help Trump on some level. But this is what I, Mitch McConnell, am looking at doing. And, you know, I think with McConnell being on the Hill for a long time, he didn't like, you know, when Trump would bark orders at him, he was like, yeah, maybe like, it was never always like, yes, sir. Like there was never this like fealty, you know, that you never sensed that it would be like he would, they would fall in line on certain things. Other times they would be at odds. And I think that's where you'd see some conflict because I think, you know, now, as you look at what's happening as it relates to 2024, Trump is clearly frothing at the mouth for another stab at this thing that, you know, as the momentum begins to build for Trump, we're seeing like his little attack dogs come out and try and, you know, where what's Mitch McConnell's deal? Like where who's he who's he for, really? And can we support this guy if he doesn't support Trump?

I'll just let you hear it. You know, his his moment on Hannity of Senator McConnell. People know how I feel. How do you feel about it? Well, elections are about the future. If you want to be a Republican leader in the House or the Senate, you have to have a working relationship with President Donald Trump. He's the most consequential Republican since Ronald Reagan. It's his nomination if he wants it, and I think he'll get reelected in 2024. I like Senator McConnell. He worked well with President Trump

to get a bunch of judges, including three Supreme Court justices, on the bench. They got the tax cuts passed working together. But here's the question. Can Senator McConnell effectively work with the leader of the Republican Party, Donald Trump? I'm not going to vote for anybody that can't have a working relationship with President Trump to be a team, to come up with an American first agenda, to show the different. All right. Thank you, Lindsay. We've heard enough. So essentially what he's saying is he's trying to say, Mitch, your position as Senate leader, minority leader is at stake. That's the risk here. If you don't throat the trump boot

i don't know if i can vote you i don't know where the votes are going to come from you know to to keep you as leader um and when is that vote happening that would happen after the midterms got it like yeah so that's why they're you know depending on where certain election results fall you'll have votes on leadership again and they'll take that into the next session so i think that's his whole thing is just sort of it's all this you know posturing about again it's because mitch mcconnell on certain parts he will he will you know maintain his own sense of reality that will run counter the maga version and i think that's what we see is like the purge happen when you speak out of turn or you acknowledge the results of the election. Yeah, it's just cold shit.

Who would be the new speaker? Right. Lindsey Graham. Got it. I mean, think about it. You know what I mean? You're not going to go out there and be like, I don't know, because who's going to. I mean, he's been maybe Ted Cruz, which would be so hilarious to me. But all of the people who are like very loyal to Donald Trump, there's I mean, yeah, it could be any one of them. But it seems like Lindsey Graham may have an eye on that position.

But I think at the end of the day, it'll be interesting to see what happens because Senate Republicans mostly follow Mitch McConnell more than they do Trump. They're not as like outwardly MAGA as their counterparts in the House. So that's why, like, there's this little bit of a power struggle or, you know, whatever it's ended up being. But stay tuned. I do believe everything he said. I think Trump's going to get elected. I think he's the most consequential Republican since Ronald Reagan. I think that probably like anybody who tries to stand his way at this point you know even though mcconnell was somewhat successful at like providing some friction before i think anybody who tries to stand his way at this point is gonna get

fucking swept away you never know maybe we get like a space cowboys thing where it's like the old old dudes for one last one they're like let's let's go against them and maybe we get smashed out but let's try it because we also have egos too we also got to figure out who who trump's vice president is going to be because or vice presidential candidate i guess i shouldn't fully award him the win he's's definitely going to have the nomination, but like, you know, he's going to be running against Mike Pence. There was a really funny Wall Street Journal article yesterday that was like, it's Pence's nomination to lose. But you'll notice if you read that article that the person who's making that claim,

doing it anonymously, nobody's willing to say that shit with their chest and it was also like sourced to a friend of pence so yeah well and his former staffers they've been probably some of the more cooperative people from the administration for the january 6 commission so i don't know if well yeah because that's his only path is if trump is like in prison basically for that's his only path. And that's what I'm saying. Like, because I don't I don't think every single Republican is just like giving up on their own, their own, you know, visions and fantasies of being powerful. You know what I mean?

I'm sure a lot of people like, man, fucking Trump for real. Like, oh, fucking this guy. I could do way better than him. And I'm curious. And I can't imagine that you won't see some version of that now, whether they're not, they're successful. I mean, that's a completely different question, but I don't, I won't discount people's pursuit of power to not end up bringing them into conflict with Trump, even if they're Republicans. Yeah. All right. Uh, and really

briefly, we have an update to the story we had talked about yesterday that Prince Andrew's case is he will face trial in Manhattan for sexually assaulting a child. So after that, the royal family stripped him of all his, I don't know, military titles, I guess, and royal charities. A stinging rebuke by the British royal family, according to The New York Times. yeah a stinging rebuke by the british royal family according to the new york times but the palace said that andrew will continue will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen so they are he's he's basically they're like have adam which is pretty wild but you know like this is like i said yesterday this is a like this person might as well be you know who's the is it phineas gage the guy who like got the bar through part of his brain and like scientists yeah i think that's him yeah they loved studying changed like completely

didn't he like yeah he changed his personality changed because a bar went through a certain part of his brain and they were able to like understand things about how the brain operates i think prince andrew is like a societal cultural version of that in that like he might as well be a like lab experiment who was like raised in a world of people who have never told him the truth or told him like to shut the fuck up he's never like experienced reality in his entire life and now they're going to be these like sunbeams breaking into uh this world that he's existed in somebody needs to get this shit on camera yeah we were talking about how it should be like a jank style interview show just to watch sort of crumbling happen and uh my family my granny and you can tell but because i said granny and my mom both born in england my granny is like in her late 80s so she's like all for the queen. It's like loves the royal family.

So it's just been interesting to like watch her have to react to all. Cause it's like so much shit, you know, what'd you say? Right. I said, is this your prince? Yeah.

Yeah. You know, and she's mad at Harry and Megan, you know, and she's, it's just like, of course, you know,

and, and it's, it's very, it's just very interesting to come from a family like when i was growing up and diana died i had not heard much if like diana wasn't a positive person to us you know because she was talking shit on charles so it's just this insane drama that is so fucking bizarre and it's yeah mom and gran or team windsor all the way, huh? Well, no, my mom's not. My mom was raised here and knows it's all pretty ridiculous. But, you know, we all we she's the matriarch, so we don't talk too much shit.

But she yeah, no, she's just very, very loyal. There's like a strange loyalty that is like beyond our politics because it's not so charged. It's just this like this very steadfast loyalty that older people have to the crown. And it's just it's just like it's not religious. It's just whole last vibe, as I would say. They're basically the Booger Shells of governance. Yeah. But yeah, we got to get some cameras in there and just fuck this shit up, finally. So they turned on him. Somebody needs to go in and be like, yo, you need to tell your side of the story because nobody else is going to if you don't. And I mean, like, they're so perfect. And then just like, pause.

Like, they're so perfect yeah and then just like pause like they're so perfect like think about what's gonna happen to you now that you no longer have their protection like what would happen if they didn't have that protection andy i can call you andy right look man we all have friction with our moms you know i'll tell you a story about my mom man i remember one time she threw my playstation out the window because i was playing too much final fantasy 7 and not focusing on my studies. Broke my heart. What? I'm sorry. I was playing with the bones of child slaves of Africa, but fashioned into a chess set.

Yes, yes. Ah, yes. A PS PlayStation. But like being like, you know, I mean, does your mom ever get under your skin? He's like, oh, mother. You're like, go, go roll roll roll roll i can also see elizabeth doing like the you know uh jessica walter from arrested development being like i don't care for andrew much yeah and i mean the stories you hear of i think this would be true of

like prince charles as well if he like just got left out of the family, if like one day suddenly they were just like, and you're no longer the Prince was, uh, how's it going? How are you feeling about that? Like the stories about him that you hear that like the off the record stories are truly incredible about Prince Charles,

like thinking just that he's like one of the smartest people on the planet and like everyone's like and he like can't like really put two sentences together in a very coherent way but like he is very uh confident in everything about himself and his worldview so yeah i just like i think it would be important to history to the humanities to how we understand you know privilege and celebrity and all that shit if we could just get in there especially like even if it's completely disconnected from the reality as we see it just to purely hear this person articulate their perspective, worldview, and philosophically how they've been moving through life. Yeah, exactly.

Another planet. And then leave a hot mic on him. I just watched the Jinx again. Just leave a hot mic on him and let the camera roll. You think you know anything about production? Hey, man, where are all these necklaces? You know he's one of those people that stands in a room when there's when there's nobody there and just kind of like shuts down and stares forward and like the clock hands spin behind him and he just doesn't do anything until somebody comes in and

he just reanimates a lot of footage of that yeah we saw what he thought was a good excuse and it was the type of excuse that like my kids come up with on the spot when i'm like when i come in and they've broken something it's like oh it couldn't have been me because i don't have arms and then they hold their arms behind their back or some shit like that's that was basically like couldn't be me because i can't sweat right that that provided documents about that or the falcon wars uh great soldier though great soldier all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7m films and

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Havana Syndrome cases in Paris and Geneva. Secretary of State Blinken is like, we just can't figure this dang thing out. Probably start a war, huh? What do you guys think, huh? Anybody? Just, just, huh? Float a weather balloon.

See what, see what people think. I didn't go for that one either. Still best explanation I've heard read is in that New York Times Magazine article. They basically just like laid it out. They were like, here are the people with expertise on these sorts of situations. They all think it's a functional disorder. Here's what a functional disorder is. They wouldn't know that they are experiencing a functional disorder. They would assume that it like just kind of laid it out in a very straightforward way. But yeah, I think it's very, you know, this reminds me a lot of COVID at this point in the sense that like the people with medical and, you know, scientific expertise on the subject matter told us what it was. Like that article, that New York Times Magazine articles from 2019 and like early 2019, people

told us what it was. They told us how to address it, how to fight it. But like that's been rejected as too boring. And so people are just sticking with it. Yeah. I mean, it's i think exactly like uh covid we're looking at uh situations where to solve it it means going against all your capitalist urges right you know like to solve covid means like you gotta fucking start giving money out to people

you gotta start giving relief to find a way to get a hold of this thing rather than being like i don't know man make people work and if they have covid they can come in after like two days i don't give a shit like let's just keep we'll just burn this whole thing out and just like with this it seems more of a yeah like we're trying to sort of orient this story as justification for like aggression uh towards some other country like and like look i mean they've been Havana syndrome, syndroming the shit out of us. And it doesn't seem that people aren't as interested in like violent conflict anymore.

I think more people are like, how about like fucking equity? Something like an equitable situation here. Oh man, I don't know a ton about this. Like what's going on with this? Because there are certain stories that because of the job that i do i just i'm like i can't handle that right now because it's too much of what i do so yeah i'm like scrolling through some of this stuff but yeah

i'm kind of like not knowing enough about what's going on with this i feel like i'm doing a bad job of uh of my own job here. But no, we used to know what Havana syndrome is. Yeah, I do know what Havana syndrome is. I'm not sure what's happening like currently right at this moment. Sure. So, I mean, I think it's all part of the same thing, which like a functional disorder is basically a stressful event or, you know, illness or even injury leads to a certain like pathway getting locked in neurologically into the brain. And it takes on sort of a life of its own. That's more

of a neurological disorder than it is. It's not being caused by anything physical, essentially. And so the reason that most people who are familiar with functional disorders are think that and it has a lot to do like the current understanding of functional disorders has a lot to do with like the mass hysterias throughout history and like the things where people where an illness would spread even though there was no physical cause right right right right yeah i mean placebo is so powerful yeah and it's like it is so that's why so many things work like medically work is because if you know that when you have a placebo it's like it just it is a real thing and that's obviously what is when you're having like a mass hysteria you're just, I don't

know. I mean, we don't know what the cause of it is, but even in Seattle, there's this crazy story that is so ridiculous. And it's that people started noticing chips on their windshield, like rock chips. And then so many people started noticing it that it became this question of like, what is happening to our windshields? And so many people were finding these chips out of their window. And it just turned out that it was just that people were now looking harder at their windshields. And so they were seeing these things. And I think that that's like a crude example, but it's like the way we can just manifest symptoms. It's not at all abnormal i mean we do we all did it in middle you know elementary school middle school there's just like these these things that

spread like there's like the story of the kids who couldn't stop dancing right one of them is dancing and that's like throughout time like throughout history is yeah just like this inability to stop dancing and it's just really it's really really really weird yeah i highly see i think you would really enjoy this new york magazine i'm gonna i'm gonna dive in yeah it goes into the history like the history of this and how like it was very popular in the you know 19th century but then i think then it was called hysteria, and it was tied up into all sorts of, like, you know, sexual politics, and then Freudian theory came through, and, like, kind of, but now it's, it really seems like it's, they do kind of understand it a little

bit better now, and it's not that much of of a mystery and they know how to cure it if the person is just willing to address it as a functional disorder and that it has like a neurological basis but the thing like the reason that i think this is kind of pretty obviously or not obviously but my assumption is that this is the explanation is is that these neurologists are saying these people, like, even so, it starts with different things. Sometimes people hear a weird sound. Sometimes people just, like, suddenly feel very dizzy. You know, it's always a different sort of mysterious physical attack that the government is trying to blame on, like a foreign spy agency. But they're saying even if that happened or even if like they got hit with a like bag of bricks in the head, like those that a physical injury to the brain heals after a certain amount of time. And like these like functional disorders tend to linger and sometimes get worse and like get because they are like, you know, addiction and, you know, other sort of neurological disorders

there. They have to do with like pathways getting locked in in the brain. And so, you know, I think that's probably pretty controversial because there are a lot of people who suffer from chronic pain and chronic diseases that are probably told that their suffering isn't real. I just think this one in particular, they have looked at it from every angle. And the causes, like the idea of it being a physical attack doesn't make sense. Like scientifically, they can't explain it. And then there is this very good neurological explanation. It sounds like in a really weird way. Do you guys know anything about like the Dyatlov Pass story? Like the stranded Russian hikers in the 50s because there's like one theory that i think is really interesting but then it's been

you know just disputed and whatever but it's about infrasound and it's like that certain like vortexes that can form in like mountains can actually cause this particular you know this particular sound that you don't perceive and it can cause like panic attacks and it can cause all kinds of physical somatic symptoms and can actually make you kind of go a little bit nuts and it just like probably isn't that but there's just so many things we don't understand too about the ways we're affected by things and it's just right yeah it's really strange but i've always found that explanations of or i've read theories that like a lot of hauntings throughout history are caused by infrasound and like the way that it affects our perception and like if you pass through a beam of like this infrasound which

isn't something usually that you can hear but it's something that like affects how like everything seems to you essentially. Yeah. And yeah. But yeah, to your point, like, I mean, the news media like this and COVID have both like just made me feel really like, I don't know, like the news media is not served by orderly communication of a clear explanation. In the case of the Havana syndrome, I think there's probably a steady pulse of energy coming from the military-industrial complex to keep this in the back of the news cycle. But I also think that the media is just so served by continuing to put out versions of the story that aren't true, even when there is a pretty obvious explanation to just, and COVID's probably

the best example of that that we have. But yeah, it's a bummer. Yeah. Big bummer. But I think one thing that I think is a slight positive is that I feel like, you know, as I think we kind of suspect, it seems to be really aggressively being pushed by like the American, like the Department of Defense or Secretary of State of being like, this is like a whole, this is like an international conflict that's happening.

And it's not quite getting that sort of traction to start being like well we need to figure this out who's responsible we need to we know we need sanctions or things like that it's not quite getting there and maybe it will but at the moment it doesn't seem compelling enough because i think most people are like what yeah yeah i don't think i don't think this story i don't think we're through with this story, unfortunately. Like, yeah, I mean,

right. Cause it's still there. Like we're still getting updates and yeah, they'll eventually, I think push will come to shove and we'll have to see a real, uh, I guess debate around it or just what the, you know, Pentagon says is happening and what has to be done.

Yeah. So I don't know. We'll see. Well, Chelsea, as always such a pleasure having you on the daily. Thank you so much. And what has to be done. And then I am at Chelsea Weber Smith on Instagram. And then the show is at Mayor Hysteria on Twitter and at American Hysteria Podcast on Instagram. There you go. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying besides Miles' Instagram video of him nailing that? Yeah, that was sick. Got it already.

Okay, so I'm bringing it back around to the beginning here, and I'm going to go ahead and use Ann Coulter's tweet. And it's an article about Trump and DeSantis, and it says, mean girl attacks someone prettier. And I enjoyed that. It's just a picture of Trump's like smug-ass, stupid-ass face, you know, like smiling like a

in that muppet way he does and yeah it just uh it was just uh it was fun for me even though i hate ann coulter too is uh what what she got a zinger in there you know i don't know that's why i found this tweet is because it was like i found this video from 2010 during her like peak relevance and then i was like what's she up to and she's just talking shit as usual yeah it does like it did seem like at a certain point she was like all right well like i can't go along with this like this guy's clearly a dangerous idiot and i know she was one of the few people who just kept who stuck to that and just was like all right i guess i'm gonna disappear from public then i'm giving her a uh huge helping of the benefit of the

doubt that she has in no way yeah we're being real nice yeah i should not have read her tweet but i did miles where can people find you what is the tweet you've been enjoying uh i got two tweets uh the first tweet is from anthony olivera at uh mia koopa tweeted at least a beanie baby was something you know if i feel that you know in the era of people paying so much money for you know these nfts it's like you know at least it was something you know you could look at shout out to ty anyway um and another one this is just great uh great i love a bit of video editing well this is from manny at manny fidel uh said this is from an interview from the today show that kamala harris did uh with craig melvin where he's asking about like the covet

strategy and manny tweets this answer from kamala on whether we should change covet strategy sounds with Craig Melvin, where he's asking about like the COVID strategy. And Manny tweets, this answer from Kamala on whether we should change COVID strategy sounds like me in the 10th grade trying to bullshit my way through a class presentation. And, but here's the thing, it's juxtaposed later on where he's, Manny's saying, I knew it sounded familiar. So let me just play this cut. It's going to be a side-by-side with her answer of, like, don't you think we should change course? And her fumbling alongside what this is evoking for the tweeter.

It is time for us to do what we have been doing, and that time is every day. If it is to be said, so it is. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. If it is to be said, so it is.

So it is. And yeah, what it is to be doing, we are as such every day adjusting the course. That is wild. Art imitating life or life imitating art? We don't know. It always feels like her videos like slowed down a little bit or maybe that's just lately i don't know her video seemed slower to me it's because you said but all that lean jack yeah watching wait now you seem slower too yeah

what's happening everything's chopped and screwed now. Let's see. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and a tweet I've been enjoying on the subject of the Royals pixelated boat tweeted the way Wikipedia describes your children. If you're the queen is disgusting.

And it's just a thing that says issue. They call they call their kids issues, which is gross. And then this issued from her. You ever think about that? You ever seen that? No. I feel like Prince William should cut his hair.

That's my last important thing to say. Wow. Buzz it on the side. Buzz it on the side. He's going to look better. I haven't seen him in a while. But yeah, I agree with that take. Go look. He's trying to grow better. I haven't seen him in a while. I agree with that take. He's trying to grow it out.

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oh this is going to be a track from bayuka b-a-i-u-c-a and it's called mangueiro uh m-a-g-u-e-i-r-o and it's like kind of like a dancey tune but it's got a like some interesting like chant sample like over it and i kind of fuck with it it sort of starts off you know i don't know i just i just like the vocal sample on it along with the beat and if you like you know uh south american vibes you'll dig this track too so this is manguero by bayuka all right well that is gonna do it for this uh friday we're gonna be back on t. We are off for MLK Day on Monday. But until then, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.

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