The Daily Zeitgeist - One Small Trend For A Man, One Giant Leap For Meowkind 05.28.24: Trump Trial, Google AI Overview, Libertarian Party Convention

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

In this edition of One Small Trend For A Man, One Giant Leap For Meowkind, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, CNN's coverage of the Trump hush money trial, Google's AI Overview's massiv...e hallucination problem, Trump's icy reception at the Libertarian party convention and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 are you feeling all right feeling a little sick no i'm i'm getting sick uh-oh is it that it's the period where you like kind of know you're getting sick that was yesterday and i was like i went to bed early drank a lot of water and then this morning like my lymph nodes are popping off and i can just my throat i was gonna say something but i thought it'd be creepy what those lymph nodes are popping man you can see them oh yeah you know you can't you got some great lymphies popping you can see no live poppy oh yo check me in my new instagram handle at lymph node poppy got those and by that i mean the lymph nodes are popping dude your immune system is active your immune system and i'm a horny oh i can tell this motherfucker is full of yellow look at this look at this full look
Starting point is 00:01:03 his white blood cells are fucking going crazy. Sitting outside of a fucking doctor's office. That was going to say even lower budget outside of a CVS. Look at this guy. Look at this guy. Look at this guy. Oh, yeah. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Somebody got a throat ache. Okay. Let me find out. Throat ache. Hey, can I holla? Canroat ache. Holla, holla. Hey, can I holla, can I holla, can I holla? What the fuck? Hey, let me feel under your armpit really quick.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Let me see if those lymph nodes are you acting. Yeah, now that's what I'm talking about. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers,
Starting point is 00:02:10 church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.
Starting point is 00:03:21 What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president
Starting point is 00:03:47 was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate
Starting point is 00:04:10 a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of... The Daily Night, guys! or wherever you get your podcasts. 24 um so the check you're there yeah 20 it's called 24 yeah let's go let's go with 24.
Starting point is 00:05:08 i'm jack that is miles that is the episode where we uh check in with you after a long weekend tell you what what's trending what's going on with us what's going on with the world you know what's going on with the world all kinds of stuff all kinds of stuff i don't know man huh how are you doing other than i mean we were talking about your nodes up top um dude my nodes oh my god dude these nodes feel like chodes dude they're so thick right now yeah yeah that lyric it's just like two live crew it's one of those things you're like you can kind of feel like it feels like your throat's dry in the beginning and you're like yeah and you're like okay maybe that'll go away if i drink so much water and it just never does and you're like all right let's see in the morning and then this morning just just more more more discomfort in my throat yeah as
Starting point is 00:05:59 we've discussed you you know you're sick like about three days before I do on my sickness schedule. Oh, yeah. My body, I'm just like, oh, I can't move anymore. I can feel my sickness from three planets away, I think as Kendrick Lamar would say. I can feel your sickness from three planets away. I can see your thickness. I can see your thick nodes from three planets away. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Oh, man. Is that a kink you think i don't know just being like the thickest nose popping i think that's actually not i mean if anything it would be because you're like i like the underlying health issues more right the i the the idea of a bulging lymph node yeah bug chaser that's the thing but anyway yeah anyways uh so we get we're gonna get into uh stories from the weekend uh first we're gonna get to know you a little bit better by telling you things we think are underrated and overrated and uh why don't i kick us off with um something i'm realizing is underrated yep uh which is teeth um veneers the need for teeth yeah i apparently need i knocked them all out over no uh i was just
Starting point is 00:07:15 we've talked about the power of uh teeth acting teeth acting tenactin i think we called it uh when rami malik got an oscar uh for playing freddie mercury and that's right he got an oscar for that yeah and many uh people suggested leo did not get an oscar yeah i don't think he even gotten got a nom for his teeth i wonder if people for those gomps well no noppers for those gomps no nompers for the gomps I think your teeth need to become more like prominent for it to work
Starting point is 00:07:53 is my theory yeah you can't like make your teeth into like little baked beans like oh like if the if the fake teeth are smaller that doesn't get you points you have to go bigger yeah you have to go bigger yeah you have to go got it got it got it yeah like leo was all gums and then like little brownie like nubbly teeth uh that's not what we're looking for and so my friend john and i were talking about
Starting point is 00:08:17 veneers over the weekend we're both trying trying to save up to get them um i'm just gonna come in one day like hey man dude it'd be jamie loftus's worst nightmare i know so jamie yeah jamie's brought this up before i think she's the first person who told me about it but i hadn't really like done the google uh but it is confirmed that lauren michaels will offer free veneers to people on SNL who he deems like ready for the big time and in need of teeth. Like in need of a tooth upgrade. Amy Poehler in her
Starting point is 00:08:54 book like talks about how he offered to get her new teeth. I'm pretty sure Pete Davidson at some point got his teeth capped and then like promptly started dating Kim Kardashian. In my mind, Lorne sure pete davidson at some point got his teeth capped and then like promptly started dating kim kardashian yeah yeah i like in my mind lauren michaels just has a dental chair in his office it's just like come on in yeah he's like i taught myself have you seen people are doing that shit
Starting point is 00:09:18 that's like a big thing i've seen on tiktok at home dental work yes unlicensed veneer applicator people oh no who watch a couple videos and they're like oh yeah i can drill your old shits down and then throw on some caps i do not recommend that however okay my friend pointed out that ben affleck's normal human teeth were deemed like a major problem by michael bay when he was making armageddon he was like trying to shoot him like from under like like the hero shot you know yeah and he was like he's he i'm pretty sure there's a quote that says like he's got these little baby teeth that like and you look and it's just like no he's just got teeth man he's just got like normal human teeth yeah um so he went to jerry bruckheimer who was like oh we gave
Starting point is 00:10:07 cruise veneers for top gun just give him veneers so like there's this long tradition of producers and i feel like it's like a little secret hack that they have to just like turn someone into a movie star because like if you look at tom cruise's teeth before tom gappy gappy and like he's got like a snaggle tooth and i saw the outsiders yeah yeah and it's like it just turns them in my brain like ben affleck from that point forward like armageddon he went from being like indie guy goodwill hunting to you know batman essentially um when he got he got his teeth capped and it's just like i am stupid and this like works on me like i'm just like well there's a movie star look at that yeah right you know i don't know what it is it's like when somebody gets a haircut you're like i
Starting point is 00:10:59 don't know what it is about them it's like i got a fucking haircut it's like i got veneers it wasn't even a haircut oh veneers really like i don't know it's like a subtle thing that just transforms people so i spent a lot of the weekend just like kind of looking at before and after pictures of soccer players do this too also like a lot of yeah yeah like just in general it's like the second you get you know i think because we live in such an image conscious world that like a lot of people are you know look at their teeth a certain way and like if the opportunity because this shit their shits are like i think like almost two grand a tooth or something like that yeah because didn't shohaze like dude get like veneers like 60k and i was like yo what kind of fucking veneers did you get bro yeah um but like it like
Starting point is 00:11:45 yeah it's it feels like the thing a lot of people when they come into some glow up money they want to glow up the glow up the grill and it's not something that i'm like looking for because i don't think like i really knew it was a thing that you could just get a new mouth full of teeth like for until i think jamie loft has like started pointing it out so it's just i think it it's both like something that we don't check for so it just like goes under the radar and then it's also something that i think we're more accepting of because like everybody's had like what most people have like braces or you know invisalign or like something to affect their teeth so they're like yeah like they got they got their teeth fixed.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Like that's, you know, that's the dream. Except the second, like one of those veneers gets a little impact and then you're, you look like you got a bunch of broken piano keys in your mouth. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Although look, I'm guessing most people aren't boxing veneers or something doing high impact sports with it. Yeah. Maybe don't do that. Yeah. I don't think boxers get them. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:12:46 but yeah, hit me up, uh, you you know at lymph node poppy uh i got lymph node pics and also do some you know under the table veneer work yeah come to my garage yeah uh how about you what's something you think's underrated fuck okay so we were talking about you know that i've just been thinking a lot about the bird thing like what's your favorite bird and i was at the beach this weekend and like these crows i think i was i was smoking a joint like i think in like what was this crow territory and i was like what the like they kept like kind of getting close to me and like crying cawing and shit and then like they would get up in the kind of circle and kind of come back around and try and punk me and i was like all right dude i'm like this is too much so i left yeah and they were trying to punk you yeah and i was like yeah yeah yeah and i was read it to intent
Starting point is 00:13:32 on this one jack unlike you i'll be honest here i fully pissed my fucking pants in fear of the crows they were fucking bullying me and i did not like it which reminded me i was like now while i do like the intelligence of a crow i really think my favorite bird is a hummingbird yeah and i think the reason they're over or underrated is because i just realized i think 90 of the fucking slow-mo videos i take on my phone aren't of like formative life moments of my child or my own life but they're a fucking hummingbirds yeah because i like to be like yo watch me get watch me slow it down so i could really watch see what these wings do yeah and how are you successful oh yeah yeah yeah you are wow there's a video i gotta find it there's one where her majesty thinks i'm taking a video of her and i'm really just i'm
Starting point is 00:14:23 just i'm capturing a hummingbird behind her. Right. And I'm like, oh, and she's like, let me see. And she's like, what the fuck is this? I'm like, look at the fucking hummingbird, like really slow it down. Yeah. That's going slow. And you can still barely count how many times the wings beat.
Starting point is 00:14:46 like it's just like such a boomer habit that i have or it's like the like this one technological feature on my phone is only used for one thing like i can't be used for anything else it's like i couldn't even fathom using slow motion for anything other than capturing a fucking hummingbird hovering yeah um and you know look they weigh mere grams their hearts beat like something like 1200 beats per minute so they can be they could they could have their own crank series starring jason statham based on that heart rate um they're the only bird that could fly backwards hover fly upside down they apparently have a a penchant for remembering faces so that's another that's another one yeah oh shit i didn't know again this was with ai google ai so i'm just gonna preface everything i say that's what google ai told me they may be completely fucking up yeah but i think
Starting point is 00:15:32 it's true there's this onion headline that i think about all the time as i'm like trying to get a video of a hummingbird the the headline is hummingbird back at feeder again grandmother reports yep yep yeah yeah i don't know though i i do stand by hummingbirds like if you if an alien arrived and you were like here's what's cool about our planet i feel like you'd want to show them hummingbirds like hummingbirds don't like they're so fucking cool they don't make sense it's crazy yeah no 100 i mean yeah so anyway uh i'll i'll try and upload some some sick hummingbird videos i got yeah yeah yeah there's some good ones dude where it's like look at the look at the look at the frequency of the wings beating oh my god and if you could just like get some like your your neck area in the background of one of those or two of those.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It would be good for perspective so I could see how small it is. Like I said, man, check out my OnlyFans where I do take requests for videos like that and I do honor them. I do honor them. I got a couple of overrateds. Packaging everything like it's an iPhone.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I got an ice cream scoop uh because so our old ice cream scoop this was fucking weird like it was like a kind of dusted gray metal like kind of oh yeah like standard like almost like pewter or something yeah yeah yeah but like what as i was scooping ice cream uh like the gray started coming off on the ice yeah like really nasty like and i still ate the ice cream um which is weird yeah it was like i don't know because it seemed solid it didn't seem like it was like a paint but it yeah i i don't know so i threw that shit out you still ate the ice cream probably i did still eat the ice cream probably okay uh like five uses and i finally was like you know what this is probably
Starting point is 00:17:32 bad yeah it's giving me a weird base of the skull pain every time i eat this ice cream but so i sprung for one that was like a little more you know in the 20s uh dollars the previous one i think was like 10 not 9.99 i was like i don't want one that sheds as it does the job metal shavings yeah yeah i got like a shiny one like chrome looks like a you know trailer hitch uh but it arrived in this like sleek black box that like had a photograph of it like that then there was like a white package underneath with like a life-size photograph of it and it just like it was truly like they were just like just make it do do exactly what the iphone does right packaging there's like so many like boxes and boxes and like they had packaged this ice cream scoop like they wanted people to do
Starting point is 00:18:33 unbox right right right yeah like for someone's youtube channel yeah i don't know it just seemed like such a fucking waste just like throw a oh it is tag on the end of it and you should see fucking weed there's weed that they package like fucking iphones now in california like the amount of waste is fucking mind-blowing yeah um yeah it's it's bad in japan too like like in japan people they fuck we love boxing shit in boxes upon boxes upon boxes when it's like i got this this fucking little plate. And it's like, Oh, it comes in 16 boxes.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Right? Yeah. And what? No, no reason. It's just like somebody, I, I assuming it's just the influence of the iPhone and people premium,
Starting point is 00:19:17 man, we want a premium experience, premium experience. So you're like paying for those boxes, which in turn, you know, bring about the end of the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I just think there are certain things that it should be illegal. Like there's nothing about unboxing a fucking ice cream scoop where it's like, oh, fuck, I'm glad they did this. Like this shit could be like when you buy like, you know, cheap toys when it's like just in like a polymer bag with like a cardboard thing. They bury it loose. Yeah. Yeah. Just put a just hang them them just pull them off the rack like if it's if it's not something that you open and everyone's like oh wow like i don't know a fucking computer sure like i feel like if it's gotta it's gotta cost at least a thousand dollars to start fucking around with packaging like that yeah um that's just me and then the other one is just also iphone related but in watching the
Starting point is 00:20:07 nba playoffs uh i've noticed that all ads take place in a world where we only use smartphones like with other people it's like a communal activity where you're like showing them yeah we're gathered around a single phone we're laughing we're smiling we're passing the phone back and forth looking at each other's phones and pointing right um because the real way we use phones is just like fucking scowl yeah just shoulder to shoulder ignoring each other slack jaw dead-eyed chin to chest yeah chin to chest so they've invented like a fictional universe where people are using phones like it's a game that we're all playing together yeah and these people all like in these images you posted they're it all looks like they're looking at some kind of amazing like video message from like like oprah or martha stewart or some shit like you're doing great i wish i was you
Starting point is 00:21:06 you have all the right answers like yes uh-huh rather than like probably big ass smiles on their face yeah yeah that's a neat trick man just everyone i'd challenge you to smile while you look at your iphone or whatever phone you have so that is my message and it's really an underrated just smile when you look at your iphone keep using it watch what happens when you're in a big group of people keep using your phone just uh it's called parallel play among four-year-olds uh when the kids just like play together and ignore each other but like you like go through the trouble of setting up a play date and then they just ignore each other and play with toys independently um that's what we do as adults now i'm almost curious if there's a like if this is like a good move to like get attention if you're single like at a bar
Starting point is 00:21:56 is like be that person at the bar who's just having a fucking ball on their phone yeah that has to be interesting to somebody like sure oh what's what are they about like they're having a good old time what are they looking at maybe i can get maybe i could tap into that and then just see i do notice a lot of people wearing headphones who are just having a grand old time like oh yeah i like to imagine they're listening to our podcast yeah yeah they are they are almost especially especially with my next overrated they're listening to our podcast yeah yeah they are they are almost especially especially with my next overrated they're gonna get real yeah uh so what do you think is overrated the podcast let's take it back to the real world uh yeah just overrated i mean i can't help but realize this
Starting point is 00:22:37 and i think most people do uh joe biden's supposed red line uh as it relates to netanyahu and his government and the genocidal campaign in gaza because over the weekend the idf continued their uh to launch attacks in rafa with the worst coming on sunday night when they bombed a tent camp where displaced gazans were told they would be safe and around 45 people were killed with over 100 injured according to most reports some reports seem to indicate that the bombs that were used were potentially those 2 000 pound u.s made bombs that biden put a what i'll call a soft pause on on delivering he put a thought out that we might pause them yeah exactly and i think it should be known though too regardless of whether what happened that shipment the u.s has armed is Israel to the point that even if they stop shipments, they have they have a lot of munitions.
Starting point is 00:23:29 So the 2040s, like, yeah. So and I mean, the images from this are are even worse. This is what's fucking bone chilling. The footage that I saw was worse than even like what a movie could even. was worse than even, like, what a movie could even depict in terms of an attack on defenseless people. And naturally, most of the world, except for Israel's closest allies, were beyond, quote-unquote, disturbed over this massacre. This is a quote from a spokesperson from the State Department. Quote, a spokesperson from the State Department, quote, the devastating images following the IDF strike in Rafah last night that killed dozens of innocent Palestinians are heartbreaking. Israel has a right to go after Hamas.
Starting point is 00:24:10 But as we've been clear, it's like, what the fuck? That's literally following that? Because that wasn't them going after Hamas. But I like that rhetorically we're putting that in the language to kind of keep people like, oh man,
Starting point is 00:24:24 the war, it's so horrible. But as we've been clear, Israel must take every precaution possible to protect civilians. That was not done. Right now, the administration is, quote, taking a look at whether or not the annihilation of innocent people, including infants, crosses his supposed red line. So what is the red line exactly because again all we get are rhetorical responses from this administration nothing of substance just in presentation oh he doesn't like what he's doing oh behind the scenes he is pissed he's pausing he's pausing the delivery of certain arms um but i mean this is it it's things are only becoming worse and it's only putting way just unnecessary levels of
Starting point is 00:25:14 political pressure on joe biden like i didn't come that i sadly i'm not sure he's going to be able to rise to the occasion to address this um because i mean the next thing right because we've already seen there's the icj ruling um there's the icc pursuing warrants uh for for israeli officials um and now there will be a un security council meeting emergency meeting where algeria is expected to present another attempt at a ceasefire and again this will be a moment to see what exactly the biden administration's you know what what the standing is here because they will either do the thing where they'll just outright veto the shit or they'll be like oh we have notes so then when
Starting point is 00:25:55 you read it it basically doesn't resemble anything like a ceasefire order um and you know that will only send a message to net yahahu uh that it that this can continue it's just um yeah i don't know just it's just the levels of it that like there's and then yahoo like immediately was like yeah uh we made a bad mistake we're sorry we're looking into it like he's yeah just no we'll do an operational investigation yeah what the recording about how he talks about the us behind the scenes is just like yeah i don't joe biden can't do shit what's he gonna talk about i'm like luca donchic like talks to talks about like the players he's going up against he's just
Starting point is 00:26:34 fucking care i don't know dude i'm doing my thing to me yeah fuck out of here and it feels like that right um and all the while i mean like you know for netanyahu i'm sure making uh making it more difficult for you know because biden is so unwilling to do anything makes it more likely for trump to enter office which netanyahu would absolutely love that because let's not forget he moved under trump the embassy was moved to jerusalem as a way to be like not wrong like whatever you want um yeah so uh just uh just a confusion abounds and this is again another moment where uh i sadly i'm not holding my breath for for biden to change course here but jesus if you're if you're at all serious about the quote threat to democracy that donald trump uh presents then maybe you should also do your fucking best to, you know, make a case for yourself for people to want to vote for.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Yeah. Listen to the popular will of the people who you are trying to get to vote for you, even on international matters, which they, you know, they generally are just like, yeah, more on that later. We're doing whatever the fuck we want yeah because while there are people who are like i'll never vote for joe biden there are also groups that are saying like we're holding out until this this guy does something yeah uh to potentially exercise some kind of leverage um so yeah i don't know we'll maybe we'll get more rhetorical hand-wringing from the administration. Like, oh, golly, I wish I could have just, you know. And we're watching, you know, hell on earth unfold in front of our eyes. Truly.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling,
Starting point is 00:28:59 first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:29:30 When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about
Starting point is 00:30:01 that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of
Starting point is 00:30:49 that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
Starting point is 00:31:12 This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back meanwhile on CNN I turned on CNN for like five minutes this morning
Starting point is 00:31:35 and the way they're covering that trial the Trump trial like I just just a snapshot but like I've heard it compared to the coverage of the oj trial but they cover it like the bronco chase like the way they're getting like minute by minute updates like live feeds current aerial shots of the courtroom like that the judge has left the courtroom for a snack break like in a time ticker box next to like a bunch of like reports of like,
Starting point is 00:32:08 well, Trump's has entered the courtroom. Trump has left the court. Like a picture of Trump in the courtroom was like, so there was like six boxes on the CNN page, which I guess is like not that abnormal, but it's just like, they have live feed
Starting point is 00:32:26 of an empty hallway where trump may soon emerge like live feed of jake tapper looking at the feet of the courthouse and giving like a running commentary on like when trump may emerge and it's just yeah i don't know the overall effect that makes trump seem like a massive celebrity like oh yeah like 100 they're trying to sneak shots of him walking in and out of the courthouse like it's just straight up paparazzi like the lowest form of journalism yeah um i mean and yeah why not but let that be the attention that's eating up minute by minute coverage on sienna and when again you have real actual terrible history unfolding before our eyes that's why i turned it on i was like what is sienna and like acknowledging what's happening and right in rafa and uh you know this is and i
Starting point is 00:33:20 actually heard like a boomer recently referred to it as like the trial of the century, I think, unironically. Oh my God. Some people are buying in. God, we all know Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard was the trial of the century. Come on. Did you see the internet? Yeah, exactly. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Well, CNN, keep doing it. Keep doing your thing. Keep doing your thing. CNN. I do want to talk. So Google AI overviews had a big weekend did they like go wide with it is that what was happening yeah i noticed it last week where suddenly you got that little the new like ai logo which is like those like stars you know i mean
Starting point is 00:33:59 like it's like shorthand for ai stuff yeah i started being like do you want to know this i'm like no that's straightforward question yeah so google describes ai overviews as quote letting google do the googling for you which is like the dumbest shit ever but basically it's like we will summarize the findings so you don't even have to like go the websites. We're just stealing the content from the websites. Well, how do you do that? Because when I Google something, this is something I've had to learn, is that all the things that show up
Starting point is 00:34:36 don't all have the truth in them. So I have to discern which ones do. Well, it's AI, so it's smarter than you. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's smarter than any of us okay yeah it's smarter than any of us so it's going to be able to tell the truth all right let's uh let's ask it a real underhander so um quick roundup of some of the ai overview how do i how do i keep pizza cheese from falling off the crust miles i'm so glad you asked uh so they uh sourced a reddit post by someone named
Starting point is 00:35:09 fucksmith from uh 11 years ago and their answer was and so this isn't like so if you normally you google something and then you use your human brain to judge. Okay. This is clearly. That's a joke post. That's a joke post. Here we go. Like three posts down. Google is pulling the most relevant information using AI super brain. And the definitive answer they like put in paragraph form at the top was add some glue. Mix about one eighth cup of Elmer's glue in with the sauce.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Non-toxic glue will work uh it's not it's not necessary they're not saying not please remember to use non-toxic glue they're like non toxic glue will work um but i mean you could also use like fucking model airplane glue and uh just have yourself a real time what the fuck hold? Hold on. When did this add? Oh, this is funny. So I asked Google again how to keep cheese from falling off pizza. The first thing it shows up is from AS, the Spanish news website. And it says, how to actually stop cheese falling off pizza.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Don't use glue. Like referencing the fuck up from the Google google ai had okay they're they're working the answer wasn't oh so you think you're a tough guy huh because that has kind of been their response uh we'll get to that but we do want to um cover some of the other answers uh it suggested that humans eat one rock per day uh because of an Onion article that made that claim. The Onion article, I think, was like, geologists suggest humans eat one small rock per day. Good Onion headline. The Onion is going to single-handedly destroy the Earth.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I mean, how can you not? This seems like a fixable problem just like don't index reddit shit posts and the onion but they haven't figured that out yet um it said astronauts have met cats on the moon which i actually that that one would be dope um okay but it uh so they yes astronauts have met cats on the moon played with them and provided care for example Neil Armstrong said one small step for man because it was a cat's step Buzz Aldrin also deployed cats on the Apollo 11 mission
Starting point is 00:37:35 I'm sorry where? where were they deployed? on the moon on the Apollo 11 mission they were okay they both deployed them. And did you not know that's where the one sponsor for me came from? Do you know what's wild? You're saying it with the confidence of the AI, and it's actually unsettling my brain. No.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Okay. There were cats on the moon with them? So they brought cats. Have you not seen the videos of the cats in space? No. There's cats in zero gravity's no zero gravity it's hilarious it's fun um that video was taken by neil armstrong with an iphone and uh when he got to the moon he landed and he said one small step for man because because it was a cat step. So the step that he was taking was actually small for a man.
Starting point is 00:38:28 A lot of people misunderstand. Yeah. Okay. It's why people say that statement is famously misunderstood. Yeah. Cause we said one giant leap for a meow kind. Yes. And he also did say that.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Um, yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Yep. So this one was actually pretty surprising to me, but also like very interesting, you know? Uh, so backpacks are just as good as parachutes at preventing death or major injury while jumping out of an airplane. Um,
Starting point is 00:38:58 well, what do you mean? Just like by landing on it? Um, that's unclear, but yeah, I mean, I think must be like landing on it? Like without using... That's unclear, but yeah, I mean, I think it must be like landing on it because it's according to a 2018
Starting point is 00:39:09 study published by the BMJ. Parachutes are no more effective than backpacks at preventing death or major injury when jumping from an aircraft. The study involved 23 people who were randomly given either a parachute or a backpack and then jumped
Starting point is 00:39:26 from a biplane. What the fuck? How is that even a real thing? Oh, yeah, no. That's, I mean, would you rather they not test parachutes? I guess.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I guess that's the thing, Google. What are we using as our effectiveness metric? Is it that it will slow down the pace of descent when it's deployed? Preventing death or major injury when jumping from an aircraft. In this case, a biplane. Right. But how are we gauging that?
Starting point is 00:39:59 Does it just mean you just have a backpack on and you jump out of a plane and then just depending on what happens, you're either dead or alive? 23 people. Kind of a small sample size but you know still uh noticeable it's hard to get people to volunteer for this one for some reason and a certain number of them uh i don't have the specifics in front of me give it a backpack a certain number of them given parachutes and yeah i i'm not saying it's not counterintuitive miles i'm just saying that what the study indicated uh and again this was from the bmj like the the in the overview is capitalized so it's like the bmj a british medical journal i'm assuming uh yeah they found they found out the kind of an inconvenient truth for the parachute industry i'll say
Starting point is 00:40:46 yeah they don't want you to know that wait i'm like now i'm like a re because like npr reported on this oh my god oh here's the one important the drop in the study was about two feet total got it um all right what the what i don't i don't understand like i have to really read this article to understand what they're getting at here but why you're okay great two people just hopped off a helicopter that was on the fucking ground and you're like you have a parachute on you have a backpack see yeah so i don't understand what's your complaint this this seems like uh technically true and it is the data that should have been when somebody's asking whether to jump out of an airplane with a parachute or a backpack i think
Starting point is 00:41:31 i think they nailed it i think we nailed it on this one so i'm just going to move forward um a lot of people don't realize that a number of dogs have played professional sports i get okay the the parachute thing was to basically question like what the gold standard for medical research is where like a study that like randomly assigns one group to try like a specific intervention or go without one and be part of the control group yes and so these people the reason they even did this to come up with the conclusion that backpacks are no much safer is to point out like potential pitfalls and research shortcuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:08 So it was like the onion of medical research. Yeah. They were satirizing medical research and it was like such a pithy point that, um, medical professionals linked off to it enough that Google, uh, was just like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:23 man, this appears to be the number one uh piece of research on this subject um that's so fucking frustrating yeah and i think that was clear in the in the answer so i don't know why we're making a big deal about it sorry listeners i fucking completely had to go take a tangent there to really fucking just did my head in i had to really understand what the fuck was going on there. Suggested a number of dogs have played professional sports. That's true. Quote, yes, a dog has played.
Starting point is 00:42:49 There's no rule that says a dog can't play in the NBA. Vernon Maxwell. You know what I mean? Exactly. Austin Reeves. That was my question. Did this come up because people were like, I mean, Vernon Maxwell got that dog in him. You know?
Starting point is 00:43:08 all got that dog in them you know um in response to another search by the new york times uh asked if a dog has played in the nhl uh the answer was yes pointing to martin pospicio a center for the calgary flames so unclear whether um whether or not they were just being like i mean technically he does have that dog in him. Yeah. Another search by Dazzlebox showed that apparently, according to AI, a dog has played NCAA basketball but hasn't played in the Eurobasket League. Referees generally have leeway to keep games fair
Starting point is 00:43:37 and dogs are ineligible by default. Oh, well done. It's just like, just the the way it answers questions yeah it's just a they've spent all this money and research to create a like kids trying to sound smart while having not done the reading right yeah and yes so uh so referees are there to ensure fairness and therefore do not allow dogs to play in Eurobasket, however, and heretofore the NCAA, yes. Okay. Yeah. I just asked if how often I
Starting point is 00:44:19 should scream at my teen son for not having enough followers on Instagram was the question I put in there but okay yeah um thank you it seems generally have leeway yeah that was that's how all my essays sounded in the beginning of high school right yeah oh yeah just horse shit artist horse shit uh like aspiring artist it confirmed Google is breaking antitrust laws. Someone said, does Google search violate antitrust laws? Yes. And gave specifics to the U.S. Department of Justice.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Justice Department and blank blank. Seemed to back conspiracy theories like that Obama is Muslim. Tommy Vitor from Crooked searched how many Muslim U u.s presidents have there been and uh the response uh in an accent for some reason said there has been at least one muslim u.s president barack hussein obama oh no um yeah wow yeah this is it's nonsense i mean that already just this is like so disqualifying as a
Starting point is 00:45:26 technology you know what i mean we're like you're asking stuff that most people i get most not most but many people reflexively could tell you that obama wasn't a muslim president right um or at least they had to do a lot of uh their own research to confirm that he is you know what the fuck do they think like what's even their excuse like obviously because no tech company is like yeah you know what it's kind of an l right now yeah sorry um no it's actually our fault uh they suggested that the dumb answers are the quote byproduct of mischievous users attempting to break the product with obscure queries that do not have many high quality sources
Starting point is 00:46:10 what the fuck I mean but the there aren't high quality sources about the Obama thing or cats on the moon yeah no it's obscure fuck off the Obama thing is like not obscure like that's a great example of like how this thing goes
Starting point is 00:46:25 awry right um yeah yeah i mean that's why again use it for fun stuff don't use it to ask for fucking information be like hey make up a movie about ben affleck's harrowing trial of going from little corn teeth to big old veneers big old big old veneers but you got in there you know what i'm saying yeah lord you got chicklet teeth look at him he looked like walter mathau in the dennis the menace movie when he replaced it with literal chicklets but like do like that kind of shit is more interesting than even like as like i was saying i was looking for like hummingbird things and it was just all stuff that you could have found just from like finding a website about hummingbirds c plus answers like that yeah yeah yeah i'm asking right now does
Starting point is 00:47:10 ben affleck have veneers says we don't have definitive confirmation bro we just saw them michael bay has confirmed and ben affleck has come out like no okay interesting so it says we don't have confirmation, then point one, Michael Bay revealed that he paid for a quote, set of teeth for Ben Affleck. We paid for a set of $20,000 pearly white teeth. Affleck's original teeth were described as having baby teeth. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ben Affleck has also confirmed it, because Kate Beckinsale had Michael Bay was like, I need you to get in better shape for Pearl Harbor. She's like, I literally just had a baby. He's like,
Starting point is 00:47:49 yeah, I don't give a fuck. You need to get better shape. And she talked to Ben Affleck, who was also in that. He was like, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:55 he does that to me too. And he also made me replace my teeth. And she was like, well, at least I got to hang on to my teeth. He made me change my blood type. The last time we worked together. He said I'm acting like a real
Starting point is 00:48:08 B-positive type diva. It's fucking up the vibes on set. He said he only works with old necks. I mean, that's some shit. There's this anecdote from an old Cracked article about Kurosawa.
Starting point is 00:48:23 He changed the direction that a river was flowing for a shot. And one of his movies, like directors are really on some next shit when it comes to perfectionism. Wow. Yeah. All right. Also, uh,
Starting point is 00:48:39 I just, I don't want to miss this fact that overview suggested that the golden gate bridge is the best one to jump off of. So Rolling Stone asked the search engine what bridge is best for jumping off. And the overview was like, oh, the Golden Gate Bridge is one of the bridges in the world where people have jumped off the most. About 245 feet above water. Some say 98% of falls from this height are fatal. Oh, I maybe was asking more for like a thrill
Starting point is 00:49:07 kind of thing exactly that's that seems like a big miss not that obscure like something that would be just generally yeah because you're inherently dealing with like self-harm and shit like that and then if you're just like so matter of fact but yeah that's the best one next yeah it's i mean so i did see i i am seeing more and more people just generally asking the really dumb questions like what is this technology that nobody asked for and why are they investing so many billions of dollars in it um and the answer of course is because they want to replace humans basically like yeah if you can just summarize the content of the website like people won't need to go to the website nobody will ever advertise on that website
Starting point is 00:49:56 that website does not exist and then i don't know like what the end game is maybe google just employs people to write shitty answers to all the questions uh well anyway i'm glad i'm glad every every ai story is just reinforcing the idea that it ain't it ain't doing what they think it's doing yeah um or at least it's not as impressive as i think it is god they're, they're excited about this, though. Tell you what. All right. Let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:53:49 national convention sniffing around huh yeah it's just like you should vote for me why wouldn't you vote everybody should vote for me and it didn't didn't go that well what the fuck i mean i just like the first time anyone who was ever president showed up at like a third party convention to be like hey he's ready for the green party now yeah what the fuck okay uh cool cool cool cool cool um he was booed heckled uh even after telling the crowd that he's a libertarian now that he's been indicted he's like i wish i could get away with crimes right that's what you people are into just libertarians right didn't he say like yeah now i'm definitely i'm one of you guys yeah i'm a criminal like
Starting point is 00:54:38 that i'm a confirmed criminal right yeah yeah so this is uh one of those stories where i'm like man i hate both of these sides i hope they both take an l here um because like these are like one of the big things that they object to was like his over doing it on covet restrictions yeah you know why did you fire fauci these were the worst people from the beginning of the pandemic like when we were all trying to figure out what the fuck was going on and there were libertarians gave maga the idea yeah that this was something to get fucking up in arms like because all those people who were out there at those first things you just i mean obviously they were like the maga people but the intellectual engine was definitely like more libertarian types like they can't do this actually yeah they can't do this
Starting point is 00:55:29 right can't make me get anything put my exactly yeah um he should have ended the fed years ago oh boy okay yeah the end the fed and the fed so that peter teal can have as much money as he wants and control everything uh one person the crowd held up a sign reading no wannabe dictators but was dragged away by security nah now i'm no expert on libertarianism yeah but that feels off that feels counter to what um it like they were like no you can't object to him for good reasons you have to keep your objections to the very specific terrible reasons that we hate all politicians right yeah someone had a sign that said maga equals socialism hell yeah man to the worst place fucking possible here let's hear some of the booze that that were coming out of this this wonderful event and the fed and the fed okay
Starting point is 00:56:44 that's nice that's nice only if you want to win only if you want to win maybe you don't want to win maybe you don't want to win thank you D-Roy thank you
Starting point is 00:57:03 only do that if you want to win. If you want to lose, don't do that. He's talking about voting for him. Keep getting you 3% every four years. Thank you very much, everybody. God bless you. God bless you. Yeah, keep doing that.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Yeah, keep doing that if you only want 3% every year. Everybody's acting like, oh, Trump got fucking owned. And I'm not sure that's what I saw. Like, he just got stood up there, took the booze, and was like, you guys are fucking losers. Like, kind of perfectly in character for him. Yeah. You know? I mean, I don't think he even filed the paperwork.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Or that's what he said later on. He's like, the reason i didn't file paperwork for the libertarian i'm just like why were you okay dude this is everyone's fucking losing here everyone has lost everyone claimed he would have won the libertarian nomination but he didn't want it which is why he didn't file the paperwork but all the libertarians are still going to vote for him anyways obviously obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're just, but I feel like,
Starting point is 00:58:07 look, this is a, wow, man, just get another 3%. Do that. Why don't you get another 3%? You losers.
Starting point is 00:58:14 They fucking. Yeah. Yeah. A match. You wish you could vote for me, but you can't, I don't want your votes. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I mean, look, they did at least the guy they did nominate, uh, knows what a genocide is yeah at least when he sees they but nominated what's his name oliver yeah they nominated a guy named chase oliver who is an anti-war activist and pledged to end the genocide in gaza during his acceptance speech although and i'm sure he's he's probably got some other wacky
Starting point is 00:58:43 perspectives as a libertarian oh shit but yeah the other thing that was like wild was that there were a bunch of people at rubber chickens that said like debate rfk because trump refused to uh-huh and then so like people were trying to like take the people's rubber chickens in the audience like the secret service it's just again it was jokes pawn jokes get the chicken get it get it out of here get the chicken right now get it out of here i'm not getting out of here you're a chicken yeah what do we think we've talked before about how it'd be cool if every person had like a magical word that set them off like in the back to the future universe where you can call marty mcflagg
Starting point is 00:59:23 oh yeah and like that's suitably dumb that that would probably work for trump and like call him future too is basically about him so yeah call him a i don't know what you call him um queen's trash or something like that i feel like yeah yeah yeah like something something like that is good so thank you thank you i love trash i never recycle fuck you um well chase oliver is also for ending qualified immunity wow mandatory minimum sentencing uh where is the death penalty ah come on yeah come on man i don't know where i was just looking at criminal justice uh let's see war on immigration return to an ellis style island of a process of yeah um yeah anyway let's let's move on yeah
Starting point is 01:00:21 all right well those are some of the things that are trending on this Tuesday morning. After the long weekend. We hope everybody had a good long weekend. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
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