The Daily Zeitgeist - Oops... All Overrated / Underrated! 1.16.26

Episode Date: January 19, 2026

A round-up of some of our favorite "Overrated/Underrated/Search History" segments for MLK Jr. Day!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this special episode of Dernadilly Zeitgeist. This is going to be the Oops, All Overrated, Underrated, and Search History series featuring some of our favorite guests, giving some of our favorite opinions from the past few months. We'll be checking in with these sporadically. just mostly silly episodes full of the treat part of the episode, the not about the news part of the episode. And yeah, we hope you enjoy them.

All filler, no killer, I guess you could say. And if you have a favorite overrated, underrated from the long history of the show, my memory doesn't work that well. But if you have one from a long time ago, let us know in the Discord or in the comments, and maybe we can do an all-time, oops, all over under search history. Anyways, without further ado, here they are. Oops, all overrated, underrated, and search history. Bye.

What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay. This morning, it was like big news in my circle of friends that the Legends of Zelda movie that we're finally against our first looks. Oh, really? I'm a big Zelda nerd. I've played all those games to death. It's the only game I can really play.

I'm a big dungeon freak. And, yeah, me and my circle of friends, we love that shit. And so, yeah, there's like the first images. Dungeon freak sounds so much nastier than what it is. I got to really, yeah, what you're talking about? A whole vocabulary is a dungeon freak. Oh, yeah. He's like, when I say D&D.

People are really going to be looking for my name in the files. Okay, so first looks. I'm looking at something that looks like the, Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings. Yeah, it's pretty much it. Yeah. A lot of green flowing fields. It's still pretty exciting.

Some shit that is like, Hollywood's promise to New Zealand that we will boost your tourism industry once every decade. It feels like what we're seeing here. That's cool. It's live action, you know? That'll be interesting.

They said, oh, wow. They're describing it. West, the director said they're aiming for something quote, akin to a live action Miyazaki, which I'm here. Who's directing that? There's a lot of opportunity. Yeah, is it Hayao Miyazaki? No, but, you know,

the vibrations, we're going to copy. I used to hate like video game adaptations, and then I saw that movie Uncharted with Tom Holland. And I was actually, this is, this feels like a meal. Like, this feels like a whole meal. I really enjoyed that one. Are you one? Like, Super Mario

and stuff. I was like, man. Well, yeah. I mean, I get like the animated version. They're just trying to keep it like to very video gaming kind of stuff because it wasn't the John Ligua Zamo Bob Hoskins live action Mario Brothers we got in the 90s. I mean, that was so good. Are the fans, how are they, because obviously, I mean, I feel like Nintendo fans are less toxic than like console or PC gaming fans. Are there people enthusiastic about this casting? Yeah, pretty happy, man. I think everybody just didn't want it to be like some big name celebrity where they were going to just try to force it like they did.

Yeah, because they continuously do. How are they going to get Chris Pratt to do the voice, though? Is he just overdubbing them, like in VL afterwards? All right, I'm going to give you the directors. Mama Mia. And I'm going to give you the director's filmography, and you're going to do a bit of a Britney Broski face, Miles, where it's like, ugh, mm, okay, all right?

Yes, the kombucha face. So he is best known for directing the Maze Runner film. trilogy. But then he made the fourth kingdom of the planet, fifth, or fourth planet

of the apes reboot. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, which I've heard is like interesting, at least. Yeah, I see that. And it's all right?

Yeah, I don't, look, bro, I don't, do whatever the fuck you're going to do. You never know, because I know directing movies is,

you might make a whole bunch of shitty ones and then suddenly make a good one. So off of this and Aiman's excitement, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to say really positive about this.

I do really like the no-name performers, though. It's a perfect pairing, man, if you think about it, because all the monsters in Zelda are like non-humanoid. They're like pig ape thing, creatures. And so it actually kind of makes sense. It actually makes me more excited now that he did the play in the Eastmo. I'm just waiting for when they're going to, because I know right now they say this woman, Bo Braggison is playing Zelda,

but I know they're going to put Sidney-Sweeney in that role eventually, right? Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what else it is? I haven't been excited about anything, in movies for so long. And so I'm just really allowing myself, I kind of forcing myself

to be really excited about this one. I love that. May it not be a disappointment. May it. What was the last time you got really hyped over a movie? I was pretty psyched about one battle after another. I was really psyched over weapons and I never saw it.

You still have seen weapons? No. You have to see weapons, right? I know. I was just like, I remember seeing the trailer. I'm like, yo, this shit fucking goes. And then cut to like,

you know, life, lifeing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm glad also, it seems like it's aimed at theaters, right? Like this is going to be a theatrical release. They're not just going to be like, now on Amazon Prime. No, no, no, no, no. Okay, that's good.

That's good. No, no, no. I think I heard, I was really excited about the Miss Piggy movie. And then I think I heard that it's going to be a streaming thing, which is crazy. Like, you need to put that on, you need to put that on, out of theater. That's fine, because I just. showed my kid the Muppets Christmas Carol. He was fucking love.

He normally doesn't like seeing like live action shit. He likes animated shit. He was feeling. Oh, nice. Yeah. Is this going to be like a live action Miss Piggy? Live action Miss Piggy? Yeah. I haven't even heard about this.

Emma Stone and Jennifer Lawrence and Miss Piggy. This might be relevant to one of our upcoming icon episodes. So stay tuned for those. Emma Stone. Yeah, yeah. Like, what's something you think is underrated? So I know that I saw, I remember that this question was going to be coming. I have a few answers.

My first answer is a thing that I love. I feel like it's so interesting to talk about things that's overrated and underrated when I feel like all of these things are relative, where, you know, especially today when your algorithm will, you know, propagate and perpetuate the things that you like or that maybe you don't even know that you are clicking on and engaging with and you say to somebody you're like, why are, why is my computer, why does my phone keep showing me this? It's like, well, because of you, you know, you have revealed something about yourself. And there's less of a monoculture today.

So like, I mean, one answer that I would say for myself personally, I love advice columns. And I think that most people don't think about or care about or read or engage with advice columns or podcasts as much as I do. We're out there. I'm not the only one. I'm not innovating it. But I think, based on my tastes, I love advice columns and would love to and think that they are thus because of that underrated. Yeah. They're definitely having a resurgence of the podcast space.

Like it is a type, like a format that has been coming back, I think, because it's a way to engage with other people that isn't the news, you know, like which people are just like, ah, I want to. hear about like messy drama that like isn't about the fact that the world is dying. And so let me hear about the politics of your workplace. You know what I mean? Oh, absolutely. And there's some that are so specific like specifically with the politics of workplace. Like there's a podcast, I think she used to have a podcast, but definitely has a column. Alison Green and her column is called Ask a Manager. And like I'm not even, I don't work in a quote unquote workplace. You know, I don't have HR. I don't have, you know, a boss and a grand boss. And yet, ultimately, at the root, all of these questions are like, you know, questions about guidelines of how to live as a human being, how to get along with

other people. Like, there's, you know, relationships. It's all very human and relatable, even if the question is like, you know, my boss did this specific thing. Shouldn't I get paid more for, like, I know one of the questions we address later. Oh, also just real quick, do you think that, I know we're going I get into this later. Do you think that Jeff Bezos is following the target model of like, hey, everyone, when I come out surrounded by lightsabers, smile. If you're within one million miles of me, smile. Or is he like, look scared. What bowed, tremble before me because the way, like, everything I've heard about Amazon, like being an Amazon executive is that people are openly crying in their offices, like, because of how, like, brutal it is to work there, like, at the high level,

not just, like, on the, you know, factory floors. So I wonder if he has, like, a different kink where he's like, you better not smile. What the fuck is that? I think he is knowing which side. I bet he makes no rules. It's just, like, everyone who doesn't do what he already wants is gets a little fired. Yeah, yeah, people get fired so quick at Amazon. A little fired. That's funny. But, yeah, advice columns. Yeah, I mean, I just think that we all, you know, in life at various points, are trying to figure out what to do in, you know, in general or in specific situations. You know, some of us have friends that we go to.

Some of us, you know, might look to various community enterprises. You're a part of, be it, you know, a religious affiliation or, you know, just your group text or what have you. And, yeah, I think, and I'm not saying that I get all of my, how I live my life from advice comments. I just, I do love, there's some element also of sometimes a person writing in is the unbeknownst to them villain of the story. You know, the, am I the asshole without realizing that they might in fact be the asshole? And sometimes to see, you know, a person who is the, the wronging party, the more harmful person in a situation complaining, you know, the one percent being like,

hey, the 99 percent has taken one percent of my one percent, you know, in my, mind like what what can i do about this and to see you know come up and it's delivered or just you know a deliver it's just yeah it's there can be it could be i i have to be careful because i don't want to just slide down into a realm of judgment because i i want everyone to live their their best happiest most productive you know most peaceful healthy life and you know sometimes for me, that involves a little bit of Schadenfreude. But I'm much more, I'm much more into Freud and Freuda,

which is taking joy in other people's joy, which is I like to see when people figure out what to do and learn and improve and atone and make amends. So yeah, advice columns, like, you don't have to be into them, but I, I'm not advising anyone, but I advise myself to continue enjoying advice columns, the underrated answer to your question. And that's like the best advice columns do, it's not the specific advice, right?

It's like the train of thought. I feel like the best advice columnist can even just get to the point where like, I might be wrong, but. Right. And then. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I feel like the, for many people, like the OG advice columnists were Dear Abby and Anne Landers.

And so certainly I did read them growing up. But at a certain point, I feel like there's so many people occupying the space. Like Dan Savage was my first like advice columnist who I loved reading as like I think I found him in college. And so I've been reading him for, you know, two and a half decades and listening to his podcast. And he brings on experts when the question, if the question is about something relating to drag, he'll bring on, you know, a drag performer. If it's about trans rights, he'll bring on a trans guest. If it's about, you know, racial issues. I don't know.

Like, Andrew, have you been on the show? I have not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I feel like, you know, he'll bring on people who have expertise. in a thing if it's like, he's like, I'm a white person, I'm a man. This is a question about, you know, not my lane. I'm going to bring somebody in whose lane it is. And there's just some people who have expertise and like are really like adults in that

they've put in the time and work and effort. And so it's a really, it's a really cool thing. And then every once in a while, like there will be, I mean, obviously, sometimes the advice will apply. Like I remember, I don't remember who the guest was, but I was listening to the Dear Prudence podcast several years. years ago. And this is the, I've seen this other places, other times, but they offered this idea, which is just never compare your insides to someone else's outsides. If, you know, if you're looking at

somebody's social media feed and be like, wow, why are they, why is everyone happy except for me? Well, because you're looking at the photos that they took 1,000 shots to get the right one and you're comparing it to your, like, you don't know, every time they were like, Damn it. Didn't get that one. Damn it. Didn't get that one. Just standing there. Smile on their face. Going back. Smile on their face. Going back. Checking the stone face. They're doing the target thing to themselves. They're like, okay, smile. We're in four feet of this phone. Smile. You can do it. Let's get it. But yeah, we know our cockpit. You know, we see every dial and lever and button and, you know, emergency light. But for everyone else, it's just the outside of the plane. We're like, that plane looks like it knows.

is what it's doing. That's a fighter jet. Look at that thing. Wow. I'm a lover, not a fighter jet, but you know. Also, alternately, if you're a, you're probably not listening to this if you're this kind of person, but if you

have the exact opposite personality as Mike, you could also find advice columns that just tell you women are the problems for all your problems. So that is also available. Also available. It is an art form like many others. Like, I'm a stand-up comedian and stand-up comedy is not a monolith.

Obviously, you can find people, you know, there's obviously the alt-right comedy verse, which is, you know, who's the forces strong with them these days, you know, the Darth Sith lords of comedy. And but then there's also, of course, your, you're Maria Bamford's and a parna nonchurlas and Tigna Tegnataros and Sarah Silverman's, you know, the, the kindness bosses of comedy, you know, the self-reflective, you know, discussing their own mental health and how we can all sincerely, I mean, humorously, like hilariously, address things, you know, from the inside, the people who are worried about having imposter syndrome who shouldn't have that,

versus the people who don't have that worry, who could stand to wonder if they have it, possibly. But yes, and advice columnists are, I'm sure, no different. Certainly, if you want, I bet there are some alt-right podcast advice columns out there as well. I myself have not stumbled a couple of course. across them yet. You know the thing that needs to be like distributed more than even money I feel is self-doubt? We just need if we had an even distribution of self-doubt in the world, it would be so, everything would be so much better. Yeah. You know, there's this, there's this,

absolutely, there's this thing that I love from the Talmud, which is, you know, a collection of Jewish teachings and wisdom and what rabbis said about what other rabbis said. And there's this one thing in it where a rabbi says, I have a piece of paper in my pocket that says, this world was created for you. And I have a piece of paper in my other pocket that says, you are nothing but ash and dust. And so this world was created for you. You're nothing but ash and dust.

Those are both true, valuable things to remember. Like, if your head gets too big, remember, you're also in the grandest scheme of the universe. You're not the center of it. You're not everything. There are other people. There are other beings. Like, there is a whole world, you know,

an infinity of universe that you were, be not a part of until you were born and won't be a part of for another billions of years. You are, if you think you're everything, maybe consider that you might be also a little bit closer to nothing. Whereas if you grow up and have the messages given you, you are nothing. You are not worthwhile. Be like, well, this world was created for you. You are the center of your own conscious experience. You deserve to be heard.

If you, like, you know, I don't mean to, not to make this only about gender, but certainly people in our society socialized as women, girls, female. people in our society, you know, the, the ideas like, oh, you know, you're rewarded for being quiet, for acquiescing, for going along, for listening, for not taking up too much space, whereas, you know, little boys and men and boys to men, of course, are taught the opposite to be like, yes, yes, exactly, not boys to men, but, you know, the especially, and it's not only, I'm sure it's every privileged group, it's not just men, it's also white people, it's also straight people, it's also able-bodied people, it's also cisgender people.

You know, when you are the majority or the salient appearance in society, like for myself, I am many of those things. I am, you know, I am straight, cis, white, able-bodied, you know, an American citizen from birth. You know, I have many privileges that I wasn't aware of until I started learning about them. And so for me, I was given growing up by my family and society, the thumb really pressed down. hard on the side of the scale that said, this world was created for you. And so when I started doing comedy and being an adult and meeting different people and who had different perspectives,

I was like, oh, listening to other people, also valuable for its own sake to have other people be heard and also learn more myself about experiences that are not my own. And so, yeah, if you have started your life somewhere or if you're at a point in your life where you are, like, not heard as much, then it feels it's important for you to learn to hopefully advocate for yourself and speak up and find people who affirm you and value you and support and endorse and celebrate. But for, you know, for I'm a man and there's a lot of us out there who could stand to learn the lesson. And not, again, not just men and not all men.

But yeah, the, the self, if you've never self-doubted, consider self-doubt. Try it. Try it. Try self-doubt. It's a Super Bowl commercial for self-doubt. We got the Jesus one from the past two years. What about maybe some self-doubt? What's something you think is underrated?

Serial. As you could tell, I'm excited. I have cereals on the brain. I'm so excited by cereal, you guys. Like, right now, let me tell you about the one I'm most excited about right now. There is a new cereal. Kellogg's is doing a promotion. A new one.

Oh, my God. They be dropping new cereals every day. every week. This is huge. This is big. This is big because, like, yeah, we hadn't had a new candy that really, like, made a huge indent. And then everybody's like, oh, nerds gummy clusters are actually the best thing.

And they were not wrong. Nerds gummy clusters are fucking awesome. They actually are the best new candy, gummy clusters. They really went hard on that one. But I haven't, like, paid attention to the newest innovations in the cereal game. Okay. So this one I'm super excited about. I'm almost, like, sad to.

to open the gates on this cereal I'm trying to gatekeep. There is a collab. You liked it before anybody else did. We'll acknowledge that. Yeah. Before it was cool. There's a collab with Kellogg's and Stranger Things. And they're...

No. Collab. Collab. Yeah, I said collab. No. I said, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Yeah. They released a serial called Google it. Dema Gorgon Crunch. Dema Gorgon Crunch. I just can't. Is it like, does it taste like way older than it should be? You have to eat it upside down. Oh my God. Of all the things we didn't need, I know you're excited about it. The string collapse, sorry.

No, I love it. Well, this is how they distract it. This is how capitalism gets us. They're like, no health care, but. Demogorgian crunch. It is so goofy. If you Google the box, it literally has the demigorgian creature, posing on it as if he's a serial mascot. Yeah, like, fun. He's smiling. It's funny. It's funny. Yes.

It's deeply, I kind of do need this. You know what I'm saying? Wait, so is it honeycombs and lucky charms? Is that basically the vibe? I think they're ego. They used to make little ego cereals, like little waffly,

they're like waffly, syrupy tasting. And they have a stranger thing marshmallows inside. I think it does remind me of like a simpler time for my childhood when like serial was like there was like we needies cropped like with olympians you know like it was a bigger deal to have these cereal boxes be something special yes yes yeah the design is definitely doing that like the design the cereal box looks old like it looks like yes absolutely they're leaning into that sort of retro thing that stranger things does they're having

fun hey demagorgon crunches for kids it's also funny to me that this beast that is killed, I haven't followed all those stranger things, but killed people. So many children, right? I don't want some, it's some Demogorgon crunch. A prolific child murder. Drinks the blood of children is now

being like, come on, Damagorgon, give us those martialos. We're going to have like the clown from it do a crossover with Captain Crunch. It's, it's deeply absurd and I'm here for it. Is it good? You've had it? I haven't had it yet.

I just bought it yesterday, and I had to go hunting for it. I'm sick. I hunt for like these rare serials. Are you on like the new serial forums or something? Yes. I follow a couple of the serial blogs. There's one called serialistly. Um, there's a couple of others. Very well done. What is your favorite classic cereal? Favorite classic do you if you, I hope, hmm, are you going to count this as okay, classic? Yeah. No, no, no, no, I'm going to go classic. Demogorgon crunch before that. Cinnamon toast crunch. Cinnamon toast crunch, I think is...

They really figured it out with that one. But there's a couple I love. How about y'all? What cereals do you like? There was meth in it, but, you know, it's... I thought that that was, like, the most sugar that I could pack into a spoonful of cereal. And then I had Raisin brand crunch. And Raisin Brand Crunch is so sweet.

It is. It is. Right, exactly. Like, it is, you know, the best sweeten cereal is like sort of border somewhere between, like, food and dessert. And, like, this one just, like, blew through that wall. It is dessert. Which is why, it just, like, burst through. I was obsessed with Reese's puff cereal.

Yeah, it's delicious. It, like, becomes cake. Once you pour milk on it, it becomes a cake. It's so good. Cut it open, it falls open. You're like, no cake the whole time. The whole time. don't have cereal culture anymore.

We don't have like Saturday morning cartoons. We can't mail things in from the cereal box. We don't do the puzzles on the back. I used to read the cereal boxes. It's the best thing to read. I'm such a boomer. I could still read cereal boxes. Oh, good.

And the content has gotten worse. I got to say. Oh, really? It's pretty boring. They're not even trying to like give them bad ideas or anything. I just like the trivia and stuff, you know? There's got to be a crossword. Must be a crossword.

There's got to be, find all the blanks, like find all the apples or whatever. You've got to have some hidden images. That should be a law. That should be a law. Yeah, we should be governing the content on the back of cereal boxes. A maze.

We need a maze. Like, come on. Fuck the adequacy of our meats. What's going on with the cereal boxes? Again, I will let go of health care if the back of cereal boxes are great. That's fine. were you referencing Elon Musk when you were talking about adequacy of the meats?

Yeah. Or the alpha zombie. Bionic. Let me see what that Demogorgon. Let me see what that Demogon do. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll do overrated and get into the news.

What is, what's something you think is overrated? Shoot, I always forget my overrated. Take your time. Take your time. Like, look down to see, like, did I write it down? Is that what you're looking at him? I know I have it written down here somewhere. This is a receipt.

Okay. Okay, I got it. Okay. My overrated is I'm a little late. Squid games. I'm just, I'm a little late. I think we can all, you know, you're not late. You're right on time to take a step back and reevaluate.

Yeah. It's just, okay, listen, it's never late because it's Netflix. Okay, sure, sure. Yeah, it's ever present. And it just showed up on my cue and I went on this rant. I didn't know that I had last night with my husband where I just was like, how can you as a nation connect with a film like Squid Games so deeply? Right.

And then just move on. Right, right, yeah. Like, like after Squid Games came out, That should have been the warning about Trumpism. Right. I love that we're putting an ass on the end of Squid Game. Yeah, I was going to say, from you're talking to hanging out with Jack's dad a lot. Yeah, my dad, my dad would always call Brad Pitt, Brad Pitts.

Squids game. You know Squid's game? No, squid game. I'm basically a person. Oh, you mean just sort of like, yeah, because it was the thing, it's the biggest Netflix show. Everyone's like, damn, that's hitting on some shit. And then it's like, all right, back to the minds. Yeah.

Damn, they would rather die than not be able to pay for health care. That's crazy. That's crazy. Anyways, let's go back. Yeah, completely connect with this film. And, yeah, anyway. They did a great job then co-opting it and turning into a reality competition show. That's the thing.

Is there all these off-utes now that I am on time for? There you go. I did watch season two of Squid Games, the show, the competition show. Like, I just think we should pay. more attention. Yeah, that's, it's like one, I don't know. I feel like, you know, I totally get that. I guess my hope of it is if we stack up enough of these pieces of media that just incrementally are raising people's class consciousness, it will get, it will reach a tipping point, like a match tipping point where people who, because I feel like there are a ton of people who had never thought about this shit and saw a squid game.

Oh, yeah. Oh, interesting. Isn't that like, kind of like here in a way? And you're like, okay, go on. Or were they just like, yo, it's fucked up in South Korea. Yeah, South Korea's fucked up, dude. I don't know if I want to go there now. You know, that's fair.

Yeah. I do kind of live in a bubble. Right, right, right. But no, I totally get though, too, of like, we have so many moments. We're like, yeah, come on, baby. Come on, y'all. Let's do it. We see it now, right?

We're all seeing it. And it's not enough time. I mean, we're so far past. Like, maybe my overrated should have been that question of like, will there be a civil war in the United States? I just want to be like, have you been around in the last couple years? Like, who have you done? He has his own military.

Sure, sure, sure. I didn't realize, like, this is the thing that happens where, like, I usually quit on TV shows pretty early. And so I stopped after the first season of Squid Games. I just was like, I think I know where this is going. And it feels like they're just like drawing it out. And like, I didn't think they really stuck the landing on the ending of the first season. that she was like getting more popular. Like the season three debut was like broke all the all the

season three already? It's season three. The third and final season and it broke all the records. I'm just fine with that first season. You see, I am ahead of the curve. You are. You know what? In that way, we salute you.

Absolutely. That was in July. But, you know, we're. Look, we got a lot on our plates right now, you know. It's a busy town. But yeah, I do wonder, like, how much of it is people being like, we get what's going on here. Like, what a interesting way to depict the brutality of everyday life under neoliberalism. And then how many people were just like, I like reality TV competitions.

Yeah. What if we could kill you? Wait, do they kill them like in the movie? No, they don't kill them like in the movie. Yeah. Just emotionally. There's just little paintballs that go off. Yeah.

Boo. I wish they'd shoot them in the chest. We do love a reality show where the contestants get killed. That's always been a very, very popular thing. What's another one? I'll watch the shit out of that. Running man. Oh, you mean like just the idea of a, like the idea of it is like, wow.

Okay, here's my beat. I'll watch the shit out of that. I'm fine with that. The violence. But afterwards, I, I'm going to get behind some goddamn legislation. I'm going to fuck shit up. I'm not going to sit on my ass.

Well, not while you have people like AOC saying, we shouldn't primary Hakeem Jeffries. He's good. What is going on with INRD? She's like, I don't know about this city council guy trying to run for it. I'm like, you, look, I get it. You're trying to ascend in the Democratic Party and you're not trying, but like, ma'am.

But like, as she's ascending, she's descending. You know what I mean? It's like a dolly zoom in a movie Where it's like, are they zooming in or pulling out? I can't tell the background's certainly moving. Either way, the effect is unnerving. What is something you think is overrated? A fancy lip balm.

Just swather vasseling on there, man. It's so cheap. Yeah. And it works so good. I have experimented with a lot of lip balms because it's, I get dry lips in the winter. and I, you know, kind of bought into the hype of, like, doing lip scrubs and lip masks and all these sorts of things. Like, man, have you ever just tried to, like, put a bunch of weird, like, I don't know. Like, they have things where it's like a silicone thing where you slap that on your lips and it like has some like grease on it that's supposed to be.

It's like a, it's a lip mask, right? Like a sticker that you put on your lips? It's not a sticker. It's like a, it's like a silicone thing. And then it's like, but it's wet. It comes in a whole package where it's like moistened with some serum. It's like an actual material that you lay upon your lip. It's sort of soaked in a liquid.

And it kind of like, you know, it's like a baloney. It's kind of like the consistency of baloney. Or it's like, you know, like when baloney's in a package and it's a little wet. Oh, yeah. A lot of wet. Why is baloney wet or why the lip thing? Why, no, why, why is baloney way? Exactly.

We're going to cover that in the icons episode. Yeah. It's like, it's got a like bacterial, like the liquid that they put on cold cuts is crazy. Like it's like the primordial ooze. Yeah, it's like a spray of bacteria that fights off like bad bacteria. Right. So you're just like, it's like wet with bacteria. It's kind of gross.

It's the thing that they kind of write out of. That's another. Our reality. So we're not grossed out. That's another thing that if like your, if your meat is sort of glistening like a unicorn shimmer, like a rainbow shimmer on your meat, that's not usually a good thing. No, when it looks like a gasoline rainbow.

Yeah, that's usually bacteria. I looked this up because I was like, I had a piece of like roast beef that looked like that and I immediately went that like iridescent thing. And it's it's called diffraction. That doesn't seem good, Miles. It's, I don't know. It's just, no, it's like the way it's cut, it just creates these grooves that reflect light differently. It wasn't because I was like, this shit's

fucked, isn't it? It's fucked. It's like, no, no. It's like, no, no. It's okay. Yeah. Well, I think for roast beef it is, but I think for like cold cuts where you, it's like a uniform texture. I'm not, is that always the case where if it's like shiny and glittery? I feel like roast beef, it's like it gets a green sheen. Turkey gets a blue shiny thing on it.

Just gross to me, maybe the. What I will say is don't take food safety advice from me. I get food poisoning at least three times a week. So I should have caveat in my point about diffraction. Yeah. If your fish is bioluminescing, I know that means you should probably not eat it. That's good, right? If your fish is bioluminescence, it might be diffraction.

Fucking food safety, Foxx, or he? You should have just gone into that. But, okay, so lip mask, similar to, like, I've talked. before about how my wife will put on these Korean face masks and without warrant she doesn't warn me and then I just come into our bedroom and she's sitting there

and they're very scared like they look like the face masks. They look like the face mask from strangers, the strangers, you know, just like blank. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like she's in the Jabalwaukee. Is yours just a mouth version of that? You just got like a little.

It's the, I've only used it a couple times because it's not it doesn't do anything. It doesn't do anything. But it's like, it's like a larger pair of lips. That's fun. You know like the wax lips like that

nobody has anymore? It's kind of like that. So it's a little funny. I used to do that all the time with baloney when I was a kid. Turn my baloney into lips. Like this kind of. Oh, they do a little lip thing.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Now you know what you would look like if you were a cartoon character. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

But yeah, don't work. Vaseline works really well and it's super cheap. And you can get it in like a little squeeze tube. You don't have to carry the big honey pot of Vaseline around like my mom used to. It is fun though to get the big jug. That has like a penny in there. I got to lube up my lips now and just dip a hand in there. Yeah.

What is something you think is underrated? You know, they say romance is dead, you guys. And I agree because what is underrated is the thing that no one's doing anymore, which is where when men would very romantically kiss women from like their hands all the way up to their biceps and back down. Yeah, they don't like that anymore. No, consensually, we need to bring that back. Oh, you think the gals don't like it? I think they're, I think they're like, where did that go? Yeah.

You're talking Pepe La Puee-style. Yeah, you're talking Gomez Adams. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm talking Gomez. Peak, Raul Julia. Classic. Cartamish. Lovers.

Yeah. Is there anything more romantic than Gomez-Ams? Rather than, yeah, you're just like, I'm just going to kiss closer to the thing I ultimately want. Is that cool? I'm not going to say it. You start down here. Yeah.

The neck miles. The neck. Yeah. Man, so many smooches. That guy was averaging on average. Dang. Bro. I just realized.

I'm going to have to tell Her Majesty, we got work to do. Yeah, you got to get those. I haven't been loving you the right way. Loving you. Yeah, I think you're right about that. I think that's a good, you know, a good move that I'm going to try with my wife today. I mean, yeah, give me a little credit.

Yeah, when your love life really explodes. She did like I got chapstick all over clothes. Yeah. At first, she's going to be like, what? I hate this. And then it's the animal lust between you. will be undeniable. Undeniable, yeah.

It's actually big, messy swirls of Vaseline around my mouth because I've got real dry lips. Just wanted to be sure, babe. I wanted every kiss to be pleasant. Bridger, what's something you think is underrated? Do you know what I was thinking about

was buying rocks? I don't know if you've ever had to buy rocks, but recently I had to buy some rocks and the experience was incredible. It was so, every element of it was so not what I expected. I had to go to like a landscape supply center and it felt so far removed from L.A. The two people just knew about landscape, like they knew about rocks and dirt. They didn't.

And then I bought a pound of, or 75 pounds of rocks. It cost $20. Wow. I mean, I would have assumed that's like $150. $75 pounds of anything for $20 is an amazing deal. So it just felt great to be like walking away with this thing I could barely carry. And I had spent $20 on it. And they knew, you know, they knew about every type of rocks.

It was just very sick. Okay, what kind of rock, though? What are we talking? These were, well, of course I got the absolute just cheapest rocks. I had to buy some, I was looking for white rocks because our dog has been eating all of the dirt in our house plants. So I was like, I'm trying to cover it with rocks. But they didn't have entire. So they're kind of like a beige, sandy colored rock.

Got it. That are each about the size of a large potato. Okay, right, right. Because I couldn't, we didn't want rocks that she could swallow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or even take up in her mouth. So as of right now. Plain ass rocks.

Do you ever like now walk around and it's like, that's like the quarter right there? Right. There's free money everywhere. There's free money sitting around here. I finally found my way out of the showbiz. No, I really, I would recommend buying rocks. It's very nice. You find a nice local landscape store and go buy yourself some rocks.

There you go. $75,000, or 75 pounds for 25 bucks. Can you imagine? I can't. That seems wrong to me. I know. I was like, well, this doesn't add up in any way. They could have charged me whatever they wanted.

Right. I feel like that at that point, you're almost like paying people to just like take them out of there. You're just so heavy. Could you like just get this out of here? We'll give you half off. Just like, please get these rocks the fuck out of our rock store. Or like a gym situation. Yeah.

Did I ever tell you guys about my, when I lived in Brooklyn like many, many, many years ago, my idea for a gym, which was just a warehouse with a huge, huge, like 40 foot tall pile of sand in the middle of it. and for $50 a month you could climb the pile or for $50 a month you could punch the pile and for $75 you could climb or punch it and that's the only rule of the gym. What about like moving the sand into a different hill of sand?

Oh, you're talking about a different level of membership there. That's really, yeah, yeah. You want to go to help build the second pile? Now you're talking about luxury membership. I just wanted to build a gym that was an enormous pile of sand in a Brooklyn warehouse, which I guess doesn't really exist here.

The most difficult thing to attain about that now would be the Brooklyn Warehouse that you could put sand in. That's right. You got to move elsewhere, man. Harlem Warehouse. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.

We'll get into some news. We'll be right back. What is something you think is overrated? Family vacations are overrated. This is, obviously we're coming off of holidays. What happened? Went to Sedona, which is also overrated, sorry.

Oh, really? But maybe it's, but as an energy vortex, you can't deny. But as an energy vortex, here's the problem with Sedona, and I apologize to everyone who's in Arizona, but the fact that you and Sedona are in Arizona is probably the first problem. because this is like, it's a total desecration. There's like hotels and, you know, condos being built right up into Sedona. And it was like, okay, if this were in California, I'm like, Gavin would at least have this be protected territory. We wouldn't be able to, you know, be right here.

Anyway, that's not what I'm, I just feel like vacations with family, like I was with my 80 year old mom. And she was like, your kid is loud. And I'm like, yeah, she's three. She's a toddler. You know, like, why is she so loud? I just feel like I've gone on vacations with friends, and you're so much more polite to your friends. You're so much more sort of understanding to your friends. You, you know, you just kind of like you don't grill them about their life choices the way your family does.

And I feel like that's underrated or overrated as family vacations and underrated are, you know, being with friends, the family you choose. Yes. That's actually the theme of, I've actually noticed that that's the theme of my favorite series of films, The Avengers movies, that really you can have found family. Yeah. Is that what I mean? Fast and furious, too. Fast and furious. But you have to have like a special.

Every movie. Yeah. You have to have a special power, right? Right. At least that. I mean, like, I get that too. It's like, because any interaction with your family, it's usually, at least with my Asian family, it's, there's no like talking. Like, you're always just going to get dragged on some level.

is how you talk. And that's like normal. Yes. Well, how come you haven't done this? I'm like, didn't you say you're going to work out? Wasn't that a thing you were going to say? You don't look like it. I'm like, well, you know, a lot's happened.

They're like, is your son okay? He seems skinny. I'm like, what the fuck? What? It's fine. Thank you. Yeah, there's no. You can't just have a normal, like, we can't just talk about a book or a movie or a show

or like any, like normal-ass conversation or, you know, it, oh, oh, God, yeah, it's, it's a, is, It's bad. It's always like, if you weren't doing what you're doing now, what would you do? Do you think you could have made some better decisions? Have you? Yeah. And it's like, first of all, there are no jobs.

Can I just say that, mom? And also, I'm doing pretty good. Yeah. What the fuck? I try to bring a family vacation energy to a friend vacation. I like to start asking people questions about their five-year plan and shit. That's interesting. I feel like you have less.

hair than when I saw you last time. Another thing said straight to my face. Why don't you call me more? Yeah. I see exactly. Friends don't do that. I love that. Yeah. All right. Great, overrated. Underrated Francesca. Sedona caught some strays despite being one of our

finest energy vortex. Oh my God, dude. The Sedona method? I just, come on. I was there for like a day and I just remember like so many people talking about it being an energy vortex. It was a long time ago. Maybe they've moved on from that. It's a big Salem witch trial. Everyone's convinced there is energy vortex. So everyone's sort of like suspect, you know, we're all, yes, there's energy here, you know. It's kind of like a mass delusion. Yeah, I like it. Also very sacred. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. I've seen the plans for the latest best Western that they're building into the side of that Adobe village. Absolutely. Absolutely. the ancient sea cave. What is something you think is overrated?

Okay, so frivolous leading to like an honest moral compass point, half billion dollar movies are overrated. Nobody's lived, that we're almost there. Listen, I tried to watch the new Mission Impossible, and it was very difficult to watch. It's a challenging film. Kaelin, it's a challenging film, and I'm glad you brought that up. Deeply challenging to sit through.

And it is just my opinion. If you love these, I'm not coming for you. But when I looked up, most expensive films, all of them are torturous to me. It is a long list of like the New Jurassic Parks and the Avengers, and they've all slipped up. They've lost something. You've lost something.

And having too much is sometimes bad. So the heartfelt, overrated thing is being super rich sucks. Having enough money is awesome. Right. Again, 44, it finally happened to me. I can drive that Subaru. I do own a home. Is it a manufactured home in 29 palms? I don't want to talk about it, but I have enough money. And that is beautiful. Being super rich seems horrible and late. You have to make a series, a cascade of awful decisions, one worse than the next, and nobody edits you. So from movies, I led to life, as is so often the case. Too much is a bad thing. You can spend too much money on your movies. and it is awful. Yeah. You start getting studio notes

when you get too rich. You got a lot of studio notes coming in. I feel like everyone's note got into Mission Impossible. I feel like every single post-it that anyone took an idea down on is physically manifested into the film. They scrapped nothing.

They added nothing. I looked it up and broke back Mountain made the same amount of money in cash dollars as $1,14 million to make, made something like close to $170 million. Mission Impossible Costs roughly $400 million to make, made something like $598 million.

So is it insane that it made that much money? It's like it had to. The stakes were so high of what it had to make back and it did, but you could have made like 28 Brokeback Mountains. Is Brokeback Mountain for everyone? Absolutely not. If you made 28 films with $14 million, would there be one that everybody enjoys?

That is actually good, probably. Right, right, yeah. Just in trying to please everyone, they please me, not at all. Yeah. So if you enjoy these films, I'm really happy for you. Keep on enjoying them. I don't have to be right about this, but I do feel like the more expensive the movie is, the more likely I am to drift away and start IMDBing and Wikipedia and during it.

It's, I think that's spot on, though, because, like, A, also, I don't know anyone who, like, earnestly rides for the Mission Impossible franchise. Like, I don't be like, I watch them all out of habit or, like, me. I'm like, if I'm on an airplane, sure. Sure, exactly. And the last three or actually four Mission Impossible films have only been seen on a plane for me. Because I'm like, I can't, I'm not going to the theater to see this anymore. But I think who was making this point about those movies.

I might have been on the Hollywood Handbook podcast, but they were saying that like they can't remember which of the movies they've seen. Yeah, I think it was the Hollywood Hamble guys. And like, that's my problem with Mission Impossible. All the movies are indistinguishable from one another. I don't remember which one is which. Or it's some weird detail. I'm like, where's the one with Carrie Russell's weird eye?

Okay, yeah, I remember that one. There's the one where Sawyer from Lost gets off in the first scene. I remember that one. Then there's a one with Philip Seymour Hoffman. He's too good for this. That's also the third one with Carrie Russell's eye. Oh my God. Yeah, you've only got one.

I think you've only seen one of one, but you just don't realize it. There's the JJ Abrams mystery box one. There's the one where Tom Cruise runs a lot. He's on that motorcycle in that one. He's all the same movie. He's underwater for 40 minutes. He's in a plane for 40 minutes. He just, like, watching a man who desperately wants to die while making a movie is becoming difficult.

Yeah. And I think the other part, too, is because, like, in the 90s, saying something like, they spent a hundred million dollars making this. Everyone was like, holy shit. Wow. We got to see this. James Cameron built a Titanic. in Mexico.

Yeah, we're going to go fucking watch. Yeah, I think I'm going to go see that one. But I think after, I think we hit the peak after the first Avatar film. And that was the last time you could be like, guys, this costs so much fucking money, you have to see it. And then they kept shutting more and they kept making avatars.

And you didn't need to do that. You didn't have to do that. I just feel like it's like being super rich or like having enough money. Having enough money lets you breathe free and clear. We all know that like, that's what you're striving for. You don't want to be super rich. You don't want to be the Pallinger guy cooked out in the middle of like a Wall Street

Journal interview. Like you want to actually just be able to breathe and enjoy. Just enough versus excess is basically what I'm saying. And this was made manifest by the new Mission Impossible for me. I can't wait to see it. You're going to have so much fun. Make sure you watch all the other Mission Impossible's first or it doesn't make sense because.

It sucks. It fucking sucks. I watched it recently on a plane. I was like, what the fuck? Do Variety says top 10 movie of the year? It's a top 10th movie of the year. Variety was also like... Oh, it's the number 10 best grossing. It cost 400 million dollars to make, and it's number 10 on the top grossing list of this year. Right. Yeah. Ah, Jesus. Okay, I'm done you screaming like an old woman, but I do appreciate you allowing me to share this point of view. No, we agree. What is something, Blake, do you? you think is underrated?

Underrated? You heard me. Coats. So it was under, underrated. You heard me right. I didn't stutter. No, no, you won't.

You refuse to. Jack's trying on a new attitude. It's pretty embarrassing. Yeah. Yeah, I'm thrilled. You were comfortable enough to try it out with me that I test this out. I think it's great.

And please continue this throughout the show. But so when you did this. We're a family here, Blake. When we're here. Yeah. We're a family here and I will be emotionally abusive. Yeah. For that exact reason.

That's right. To keep with the theme. Underrated vents under, like arm vents on a jacket or a coat where sometimes, you know, it's winter here on the East Coast. And if you can unzip underneath, like, or it could be like, the back is too hard because you don't want to be, you know, seen the back zipping. But you do sometimes go from a cold temperature inside, but you don't want to take off the whole coat. So to have these vents, it can allow you to still get some air circulating without like, you know, because my face, I'm a, I, my face gets so red often when I come in from like cold weather to like restaurants.

The temp change is too much. The temp change is tough. And Guinness, which is irrelevant, which is another thing where if I drink Guinness, my face also turns red. But no, I think these are, and it doesn't seem like that big of a lift to put these in more jackets. You know, like they're not unfashionable. You can't see the zipper really. So just, yeah, throw those in there. Yeah.

I like that. Yeah, as a sweaty or gentleman now and again, I support that. Has anyone ever tried it on T-shirts? Because I feel like I could use those like everywhere. So I could stop sweating through my T-shirts all that time. Did you ever own pants that you could zip off the, the bottom part of the pants and have shorts. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I think I did. Big time. Yeah. Do I have them? Do I have I ever? Are you wearing them? Am I wearing them? I have some from, you know, my kids are Cub Scouts.

And so that's a big part of the Cub Scout wardrobe is having pants that unzip around the knees. And then you go, but like don't hide the zipper. So you're just, you just have like zippers around your knees. They look terrible. I wore them at my wedding. You look. great. You look great. I have a hat that I zip the top off of when I want to wear a visor. I've randomly, I've never worn a tank top in my life until like two years ago. It changed,

it's, it changed my entire existence, I think. I haven't gone there yet, but I'm thinking about it. The tank top. Dude, in California, like in LA, it just gets so hot and sunny that at some point you're like, okay, it's like a convertible for my, for my shoulders. Let's do this. And I thought the fun bit you get to do is I always worn my, I do warn my wife before I wear it not to get too turned on. That's a fun little bit we have. Yeah, yeah. Just text her before she comes up, just so you know. Heads up. Yeah. You might want to avoid the living room. In case you have somebody coming home with you, just don't. Yeah. Don't let them in. It will all be too horny. Did you guys ever have, just speaking of convertible clothing? My wife and I realized that we both had this.

same idea for an invention when we were kids. And I feel like 80% of people had this idea for an invention, which is shoes that grow with you, like shoes that adjust and like grow. Whoa, interesting. I think in like my third grade science project was like, guys, I've got the invention that's going to change the future. And then I think I've like read that like people in history tried to make it happen too. It's just like it doesn't make any sense. Like, in theory, it's okay. And then practically, it's like, we have to, like, put so much shit into that. Like, just, it just makes more sense.

Yeah, we need a new material. They'd have to spend what they're spending on AI to get that to work. Right. Yeah, exactly. One day, though, one day. I think it's worth the investment. I'm picturing it almost like a, like, a bus, like one of those longer buses where they part of it. It's not all metal.

It's some of it's, like, rubber, which, and I, you know, I was, I was studying. buses for the past six years and this is in my thesis, but part of its rubber, like accordion style, you know, so I wonder if that's how it works. And we don't have to workshop this right. No, it's a good idea. Because mine included like a wheel that you would turn to like get it to expand out. Like a like almost, yeah, like a roller skate key or something. Yeah. It also, kids all know what that is, right? We're still roller skating. We're still rolling skating. They can't stop roller skating these little kindergartners. It also changes the Ernest Hemmingway poem.

Right. Exactly. That's what I'm trying to avoid is for anyone to ever have baby shoes that were never worn in any way that wasn't completely tragic. All right. And that's going to do it for this special Martin Luther King Day edition of Oops, All Overrated, Underrated. We'll be back tomorrow with a whole ass episode. and we'll see you then. Bye.

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