The Daily Zeitgeist - Oppression Looks The Same, Dumb Mad Max 5.14.21

Episode Date: May 14, 2021

In episode 909, Jack and Miles are joined by Slate's Aymann Ismail to discuss police brutality towards communities of color and the parallels within the IDF's abuse of Palestinians, 'bipartisanship,' the gas shortage on the east coast, the perks of being vaccinated, the legend of Buttfucker 3000, and more!FOOTNOTES: After Ferguson Unrest, St. Louis Police Bought Stink Weapons to Launch at Protesters U.S. Police are Being Trained by Israel—And Communities of Color Are Paying the Price A Palestinian Perspective on This Week’s Violence “If you don’t get qualified immunity now, then we’ll come back and try to get it later, but I don’t want to sees us throw out a good bill because we can’t get a perfect bill,” says House Majority Whip James Clyburn on police reform. #CNNSOTU  Ray McGuire Mayoral Endorsement Interview Manchin to support measured voting reform in lieu of sweeping Democratic proposal Officials warn people not to fill plastic bags with gasoline amid panic over gas shortage Ohio’s million-dollar idea: Lottery prizes for vaccinations Shake Shack's Offering Free Fries for Vaccinated Customers in NYC Judge Has No Patience for 'BUTTFUCKER 3000' in Zoom Court WATCH: "Buttfucker 3000" Enters Judge Jeffreys Courtroom Zoom Session LISTEN: BINKBEATS Beats Unraveled #2: Getting There by Flying Lotus Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Lead with the vibe. lead with vibes lead with the vibe uh well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat yeah by the brilliant the talented the legendary amen ismael yo what's up people what's up what's up what's up legendary dan legendary bro this is i mean you are the first uh you are the first uh guests that we've had who will admit that they were at the riots on January 6th. I keep thinking about how sick it would be if they came for me. I mean, just the headlines. I would be so good for my Twitter profile. Right.

They're like, yo, I'm a report. What are you talking about? A journalist? They're like, OK. Yeah, right, bro. That would that would for sure land me a spot on Joe Rogan's podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Absolutely. a spot on Joe Rogan's podcast Yeah? Oh hell yeah

Absolutely I'll be like it's cause I was Muslim they did that to me And he's like smoking weed He's like yeah man that's fucked up Anyway Thanks Joe Where do you reside normally? I live in Newark New Jersey

Brick City The home of Shaquille O'Neal. Yeah. And my man fucking, as I like to say, my first fake ID was Redman's birth name, Reggie Noble. Oh, wow. Big highest respects to Brick City. But so when you went down to the Capitol, you were just like, I need to see what is going. I need to go see what's going on.

No, I thought it was like my last chance to catch a trump rally you know this was supposed to be his last ditch effort before the vote was certified before it was official that biden had won everybody had to shut up and just handle it so i thought okay this is my last opportunity to go and and kind of get some closure talk to some trump supporters who were there as trump supporters otherwise i would have to go to like nRA rallies or, you know, anything else. So I was just excited to go and catch like the cosplayers one last time. Right. Yeah.

And then they went for it. Oh, man. I mean, I still think about that day a lot because of how naive I was to not see it coming. But at the same time, I guess I just knew that something was about to go down. I still think about it a lot. And I wasn't there, man. I think a lot of people do. That's why you were there.

That's like D-Day of the culture wars. All right, man. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the actual we talked about, like ideological similarities with the right, the mainstream in America, basically, and the coverage of Israel. But we're going to talk about just more connections there and even like the weaponry pipeline. That connection. Yeah, like we're literally, we're getting the same tactics used on us over here. Yeah, exactly.

Just so you know. Yeah. Yeah. They train our cops. Yeah. We'll talk about bipartisanship. Where'd it go, you guys? Come on.

Where'd that ship go? Do you miss it? No, I mean, it's all bullshit for the sake of the way you talk now like it's some virtue and shit come on guys where'd it go huh i remember a time when newt gingrich and i could just sit down and have a meal together we'll talk about uh the even dumber version of mad max like mad max is not like a a version of the future that is particularly known for its erudition. But we are kind of descending into an even dumber version of Mad Max. So we'll talk about that.

We'll talk about Buttfucker 3000. No context needed. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Eamon, we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are or where you are okay okay let me let me pop open my google right now and i'll be do it blunt i'll be real i love it okay the last thing the last thing i searched was gg hadid israeli the hadid has been fucking dunking with their infographics it's because on the daily mail they

had like a picture of like gaza blowing up and they said the hadith sisters are attacking israel and i was like oh my god they're like they're out there they're doing the work i was like i need to know more yeah oh wow yeah they were in the streets like that that's daily mail i guess had a little wrong they weren't so accurate they didn't they didn't actually set a different kind of agenda with that headline for sure yeah yeah so i i needed to know more right and it was it just merely because they were like pointing to the fact that they were posting information about what was happening like on their social media i think they were just announcing to the world that they were half palestinian and so they're taking it personally like these are two palestinian women are they're half dutch half palestinian and they're just saying we empathize

with the people who are being killed on the ground the palestinians and daily mail was like oh is that is that anti-semitism i feel like for for anti-Semitism right now is really on the highest it's ever been. Just to completely misconstrue something like what's happening and be like, oh, no, no, no. Come on, come on, come on. Don't talk spicy now. You might be getting into anti-Semitic territory.

It's like, no. You can stand the solidarity of these people against Zionism and still be not anti-Semitic. I was just scrolling on twitter non-stop so i don't even i don't think you can think i'm reading news anymore i'm just looking at headlines like everybody else doom school i was up until three o'clock last night just looking and refreshing and trying to get a sense for what the fuck is happening in the world and the more i'm on it the less i i know it's crazy yeah and it just and it unfortunately it's like yeah it feeds into already just all the shit that we're experiencing too and

can yeah become even a more of a tremendous way so yeah what is something yeah what is something you think is overrated twitter okay i mean we're on it how many users actually are even on twitter like when we think about the like the discourse of what had what's happening on america and what people are talking about usually i would think about like what people are talking about on twitter and what's trending or whatever but there's so few users when thinking about how many americans there are let alone how many people in the world there are. So it almost feels like there's just this playpen in the middle of the playground where

people are just being mean to each other. And sometimes, I mean, I might be speaking for myself here, but I might be thinking, okay, well, now we need to like work on this and figure this out instead of just letting people be angry and venting. Just beat the shit out of each other. Yeah. I would say it's overrated and and i'm somebody who's like refreshing trying to get my follower counter up i'm trying to get the numbers up i'll be honest and it's not like uh you know and i think it i could trace it back to the moment where i had a photography job i was like shooting something

from microsoft at art basil in miami and the i guess the person job i was like shooting something from microsoft at art basil in miami and the i guess the person in charge was like hey how many followers do you have and i was like let me check i don't know 12 and it ended up being like six and he was like okay okay and then they replaced me they got some other photographer who was worse just had more followers oh shit so after that point i'm like i can't let this happen again i gotta get i gotta get the followers up bro that's even like worse than like a college degree you know what i mean where it's like oh you ain't got a college degree well sorry you can't get this job and now it's like wait oh you can't get this work because your followers aren't right come right on what the fuck

does that even what does that have to do with your ability i know and as a journalist it almost feels like you get into this because you want to tell the truth and you want to you want to get your perspective out there and then you end up having to like fight for followers and play this clout game so that you can actually get your work seen because a lot of people won't even look at you look at your work unless you have the right amount of followers right yeah it's a it's pretty stupid does that like affect you know because we talk about how much you know the format of ad revenue on you know media sites especially news like how clickbait and getting clicks can be like a certain like publications north star

essentially on how to like create more numbers more traffic more engagement to the site do you like from your perspective, do you think sometimes that does have an effect like on the journalists themselves? I know it's one thing for maybe the editors to be like, okay, we got to start talking like this or whatever. We want more headlines like this, but like you're saying too, because Twitter and follower accounts are such a big deal like that, that's also having this other effect on the work that people do. That's a good question. Yeah, I'm glad you made the distinction between editors and journalists. It's hard to say for me that your work is affected by what's popular because a lot of journalists are just chasing their heart and they'll do like the easy stuff on the side

so that they can, in a way, subsidize the bigger pieces that they want to do. A lot of journalists have quotas where they need to put out subsidize the bigger pieces that they want to do. A lot of journalists have quotas where they need to put out a certain number of pieces. But there's this new system emerging and I'm starting to see more and more outlets stick to where instead of looking at the number of pieces you put out, they're looking at the traffic you generate for the website. And they're using that metric based on how much they can sell an ad for on the real estate on the site right so they take those numbers and they use that to sell ads against so that's what's making the money so you know for someone like me where i have like a certain number

i have to hit i can put out the easy ones that i think are just gonna you know like i could do one on covid which right is like guaranteed to get a certain number. But then I have the other side ones where I can spend a month on the side because it means a lot to me. But that won't get to traffic, but I'll be proud of it. I just put out this piece a couple of days ago, actually, about the pollution in my neighborhood and environmental justice. So I'm from Newark, New Jersey. It's one of the most toxic places in America. We have four Superfund sites within a a three mile radius of where I live. Superfund sites are spots that are too toxic to build on. So they just bury huge amounts of carcinogens under the ground

and they just leave it like that. So I wrote a piece about the pollution and I know that people are tired of it. You know, nobody's going to really want to like spend a lot of time on this piece because it's depressing as hell. And I get that. But I'm happy to put that out. And that makes me feel like I did a good job this month as a journalist. But at the same time, I'm also going to run a piece about this doctor who's going to bars and trying to convince people to get a vaccine shot for a free pint of beer. And I think that's pretty clicky. So I could do both.

It's cool. Right. Yeah. Your thought piece on Buttfucker 3000 was pretty cool people just don't yeah that story again about someone who doesn't these digital court hearings are a mess i don't know why they think we've talked about the other with the group of the jans six people who like their homies like zoom bombed the fucking hearing yeah he're like, he's innocent! That's amazing.

Yeah, I mean, I've been on the... Yeah, me too. We were talking about the two, like you dude, if there's a way for the homies to crash your court hearing, you better fucking be there. That's on whoever organized that shit. Use a VPN, bro. They can't find you. Go to the library or some shit. Right.

I was just going to say, as somebody on the editorial side, like you definitely They can't find you. Go to the library or some shit. Right. Oh, man. I was just going to say, as somebody on the editorial side, you definitely know who's been on a couple of different editorial and pitch reviewing boards. You definitely see people who just pitch to whatever they see succeeding, whatever they see getting published, whatever they see getting likes. And then it just becomes this funnel. I mean, it's similar to Twitter, right?

It's like, you know, anything that is that reward-based, like that's going to inevitably kind of start funneling into sort of a self-fulfilling type of, you know, these like little funnels of information of like what people want to hear. And I mean, I used to be a little bit more positive about how the internet and social media and things like that were changing it so that there wasn't just this board of all-knowing people who were the keepers of what got published in a magazine or in a newspaper. I think we kind of have to go back to that.

They don't all have to be white guys in their 40s and 50s. address that but like still have people who are just focused on what their duty is as as a media outlet as opposed to what is hitting right now like you're gonna but that that assumes we have a future where uh there is still media like that hasn't been taken over by facebook so got a couple problems to solve there yeah let's get tamika mallory on that board or nicole hannah jones yeah yeah i curious to see what that would look like what is uh what's something you think is underrated plants i love plants man i think plants i have so many so many plants and i want more and there's something i think on this topic it's there's something I think on this topic, it's, there's something really powerful about having to wait for something, you know, especially on Twitter where everything is about the immediate

likes you're pulling down and refreshing like a freaking slot machine and everything's just, you get everything right away. So I think there's something really powerful in slowly watering a plant, taking care of it, checking, checking the soil, making sure it's not dry and waiting for a month for that first sprout and then propagating taking the leaves and soaking them in water so that they can sprout new roots there's like something incredibly meditative about waiting you know so i i think plants changed my life it was because of covid man because covid i i had to stay home like everybody else and it drove me crazy and i felt like i needed something to pull me away from the screens

because i was going from tiny screen to medium screen to big screen to medium screen to small screen just right so i needed to i needed like an activity in my in my city environment where there's really not a lot of space. So I needed something to do. And I joined like this plant club where they gave you a bunch of free plants. And that like really hit me, man. It hit me right in like three seconds. I sat down, I was just staring at it,

like the little seed and waiting for it to pop out. And I was like, this is dope. I want to do this all day. Just staring at dirt. Propagating. I got notes. I got notes on this plant. It's taken way too long.

We need a little bit more action up front. Maybe just a little tease. Just give me a little bit up front. Where are the LED lights on this plant? Right. I don't know. Where's the smoke machine? I don't like this one.

But yeah, I was, we, we propagate in my crib. Because the second, like my mom, she loves succulents and stuff. And so when she first put us on to like, no, just lob it off and get that thing going. And then you can keep exponentially multiplying. And now we're like kind of addicted to it.

Like we got so many clippings soaking in water that like at a certain point i'm like what are we gonna do with all these but it is nice to like even the process yeah there's some meditative aspect to it because there is feedback like it's it's not a process devoid of feedback but it takes time and i think being able to sit within those like intervals without the feedback is you know where the zen comes in dude i put it i put a couple leaves in some some cups some glass cups so i can wash the roots and wifey it was like her favorite cup so she took it and put it in like this plastic uh cup that you can't see through and i flipped out i was like what are you doing i need to see the roots i need to see the roots i have to see what's going on. I need the feedback.

So I'm still addicted, but, uh, yeah, I'm working on it. The best is when you see a leave coming out and you're like, Oh, this motherfucker about to unfurl on.

Oh man. Go on. Then that just, I just got a shot of dopamine. When you said that. Yeah. It's funny. Cause yeah,

my partner should be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo should be like yo yo yo yo it's gonna happen either today or tomorrow and you're like oh you can see his bust you know he's trying to bust open oh come on now do your thing that was the the horniest description of plant life

i'm not gonna lie we have a bird of paradise all over the place that is look it is a little erotic because we had a bird of paradise where the, you know, like the, when the flowers come out, they undulate with all this fucking energy, you know what I mean? And you're like, Oh, this thing. Cause it has to,

you know, it miles is getting gross. It blossoms. You know what I mean? I'm making my next court appearance. Undulate 3000. Undulator 3000. What was that song by that like kind of electronic?

Oh, Tessellate. That's what it was, not Undulate. But it was like, all right. That was a weird way to describe sex. But yeah, I really like the point about time, like mixing up the things you're interacting with, the living things you're interacting with, and like the timeline they're on. Like that things you're interacting with them like the

timeline they're on like that they that that just like slows you down a little bit like and if you have a relationship with something that moves at the pace of like days as opposed to you know seconds uh that's cool that's cool i hadn't really thought about it that way you get some plans man yeah i should uh yeah fortunately we've been saying that for a long time amen you know I hadn't really thought about it that way. You get some plants, man. Yeah, I should. Yeah. Fortunately. We've been saying that for a long time, Amen. You know.

Yeah. Well, there's the. Really, I've been saying, hey, let me grow weed in your garage. You're not using it. But you keep saying no. But, you know, whatever. The point remains. You know, you should get you should get into plants.

The electric company is starting to pay attention, Miles. I said, I'll bring's and I got the carbon filter so your neighbors won't even know it smells. And I'll insulate the roof of your garage so if the cops come through looking for the heat, you know, markings. Keeps knocking down the power grid. They're not going to know. Yeah. Yeah. What are you going to do? All right.

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Like I've always I've never for a second been like, oh, man, like I wonder what's what's really the deal with Israel and Palestine. I've had a pretty clear understanding from the beginning, but I've over the last few days, it really came into focus just how identical nearly people's situations are in terms of seeking freedom, liberation, equity, justice and what the responses are and what the strategies are for oppressors to sort of keep these marginalized groups where they are and to keep people ignorant. And, you know, for example, like the media doing the same thing, you got people like the New York times or other, you know, most mainstream media in the, in the West is not going to say illegal occupation or ethnic cleansing much in the same way. They were not going to say systemic white supremacy or violent police uh to obscure what was happening in this country you have leaders like joe biden who are gonna equate rock throwing

to like leveling residential blocks and say oh man shame on the shame on the palestinians i got no smoke for the israelis what for real yeah not even okay wait like say that the rock throwing is the is the worst and exactly why you know in the build build up to the primaries and things, I'm like, no, this is not a leader who's because, you know, you know what time it is with Joe Biden. He's never going to say something negative against Israel. That's not going to happen. But that's also why that's a president who is not really interested in the liberation of oppressed people. In fact, he's on the side of the oppressors. You got Netanyahu doing the same shit that even Fox News does,

which is show old dated footage of some shit that happened a few years ago and be like, can you believe what's going on? It's like you're showing a two-year-old clip. Just like when they were, when they were like Fox News is showing clips of Ferguson and saying that's what's happening in 2020.

And it's just all of this thing. You see children are taught that the history of Palestine in Israel is just so complex. You know, it's like, let's not really even get into it. It's just all of this thing. You see children are taught that the history of Palestine and Israel is so complex. You know, it's like, let's not really even get into it. Also complex. That's in the same way you have children in this country being like they think the Civil War was over commerce and trade. Yeah.

It being so complex, it being like an intractable like problem with no solution. That is that was the main message that I got throughout my life about israel and palestine it's a cop out it's just a cop out it's a cop out it's like an ancient battle it's not ancient it's 40 years old right and yes while there are some complexities you look at what's happening right now and the forces that are at play now and it's not not that complex. It's not really. I mean, you're looking at, they are slowly trying to kill these people very systematically. It's just all there for everyone to see, but it's because we have a media apparatus goes, no,

I don't think, I don't think so. And you have leaders be like, no, no, no, they're firing rockets and stuff. So I think,

you know, that's, that's a bad look for them. It's really, it's awful. And it turns these moments and turns our history into these nebulous amorphous topics that can never have a reckoning because they're too complex to talk about and then so this is what i was talking about this next thing so then i was watching the footage right

because the violence that's happening in israel now you have palestinians who are taken to the streets to protest because yes they are they're advocating for themselves and their people and they're being met with these pacification weapons that i'm like oh this shit looks a lot like the u.s look at that thing spraying the water on everyone then i'm like wait then i'm reading about it's called the skunk skunk and it's it's it's it's meant there to spray this like odorous water liquid that you can't wash off your skin to stick to your hair the. They will just blast whole towns for daring to protest, like punitive measures.

Be like, okay, well then we're going to make it smell like shit. And on top of it, the way to get the stink off is with a soap that police have exclusive access to. So this is what we're talking. Then I remember this headline from 2015. After Ferguson unrest, St.is police bought stink weapons to launch at protesters this is made by a company called odor tech which is an israeli company and i'm like that's right because many activists know there's the pipeline of pacification tactics

police brutality or whatever these technologies are it's it's we pass them back and forth the israelis perfect this shit on the palestinians and then they come to the like hey this shit works and and what they say it's been field tested yeah meaning it's been deployed against human beings in gaza or palestinians whoever and then we buy them and i'm like jesus christ man we're it's the we're the we're on this we're fighting the same fucking people now maybe the ways we got here very different but they're the way they look at us the way they use the media to dehumanize whether it's black people being dehumanized through media for decades or uh arabs being dehumanized through film and media for

decades it's like all the same shit and i just i just crushed me again to just look at it all like that and i'm like fuck it's so true though And it's the craziest part for me is that we know we're all religious people, right? We're supposed to have read these texts and learn these lessons, right? And if you read the Bible or the Torah or the Quran, God is never on the side of the oppressor. In fact, a lot of these are basically instructions on how to resist oppression and fight fascism, right? Jesus was a socialist, right? And so these kinds of conflicts are ancient, right? The one, like we've been kind of fighting as humans against the oppressor for as long as they've been humans. And, you know, that's really interesting that you brought that to Ferguson because I was there as a journalist and I saw a lot of people waving Palestinian flags or wearing the Palestinian kufayas, the scarves, the black and white pattern scarves.

And this is something you see at any like uprising in America and any of these like revolutionary stuff and so what i think is really interesting is thinking of the palestinian israeli conflict thinking about that conflict but also looking at the lessons from like jesus christ and like what jesus would have done if he was there or looking at muhammad the islamic prophet and like what he would have done if he was there or even thinking about like malcolm x or martin luther king or gandhi you know we have all of these examples that we want to uphold and think of and idolize and create statues for. But we don't think of what they would do in these contexts. We still see so many people who are religious taking the side of the oppressor. And there's this really fantastic quote from Malcolm X that I always see floating around. quote from Malcolm X that I always see floating around. If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing

the oppressing. And I think that is incredibly valuable in a time like this, where we do live in a society where we aren't just neutral. In America, we are participating in the oppression of the Palestinians. And so we need to be very careful, very careful about what we're reading, what people around us are reading, so we don't fall into the trappings, not falling for the lie that this is an equal fight, this is just a conflict. And that throwing stones is the same as leveling

a civilian residential building. People fanboy out about, or fangirl out about Hunger Games, like they'll watch the Hunger Games and then go out and root for the Capitol. Like I feel like that's America. But that's like the genius of that media, too. You know what I mean? Completely fucks up your perception of what it is and where your place is in it. And it's touching, too, because, you know, there were mural.

There was George Floyd iconography in Gaza. Yeah. You know, like because to your point, there there is a level of solidarity that we see with each other's struggles. But you'd hope that again, like this is what this becomes really funny because you have all these brands. Right. That were so in on this shit in the summer. They're like, yeah, the fucking racial injustice is so and fucking crickets right now when you're watching some shit like this go down and not to say like well this has nothing to do with the united states it does we're giving them how many billions of dollars every year 3.8 absolutely yeah and what i'm sorry we're giving

them 3.8 billion dollars but then we're over here being like, oh man, we're going to means test your fucking welfare checks because we're not really in the business of helping people, if you found out. It's more financially suitable for us to be in the oppression game, which makes sense because there's a lot of money to be made there. And I think that's what hurt so badly about seeing Andrew Yang yang saying that he was taking the side of the israelis on twitter because you know as a as a minority in america as a hyphenated american i expect other hyphenated americans to understand that we are all in the same fight and that when we fight for each other's freedom we're fighting

for our own freedom and yeah you know uh that's why you saw so many non-Asians post about like stopping Asian hate and showing up to their rallies because we know that our fates are intertwined. And so to see Andrew Yang saying that he's in solidarity with the Israelis, it was painful. It hurt way more than seeing like Ted Cruzz or or ben shapiro taking that side because you you expect that out of them they don't understand and they're unwilling to understand but somebody who is supposed to have just just like you said been fighting and making noise about the oppression of a black body people you expect them to understand that this is the same battle yeah and i think that's where you know unfortunately the the political dimensions of that is what's factoring into people's calculus on where to

extend their empathy rather than just being playing it like a human and saying oh this isn't yeah like just just seeing it for what it is like no i can't the dudes and with all the heavy mech gear and shit, I'm going to side with them. And, you know, somebody was trying to make the point that we expect the Arab governments to make the most noise about this. But they've been like totally silent and in a lot of cases have taken the side of Israel. And, you know, they're in a lot of ways, it makes sense for that because these are oppressive regimes, dictatorships, presidents for life who are, you know, constantly trying to pacify their own communities and their own countries. And so as an Arab, I don't expect Saudi Arabia of all people who are one of the most oppressive regimes on the planet to take that

position because they won't understand. They don't know what it's like to be fighting for your survival in the same way that the Palestinians are today. But what I do find really interesting is that the country whose leaders are making the most noise right now is Ireland. And that makes perfect sense because of what they've been through to get their own right to self-govern from the English. So, yeah, it's so obvious to me that it's all the same fight, but I'm really happy to see that most people are starting to realize that. It also starts to make sense of the U.S. foreign policy of upholding these dictators, always having a dictator in place in these countries. Like if there's a democratic uprising, they'll put it down, even though they're supposed to be pro-democracy. They'll put that down in favor of, you know,

an authoritarian because essentially like that's who's who they need to to be on their side is just the people in power. And it needs to be people who are completely insulated from from the concerns of people, you know, of the actual people of their country and just be, you know, all about oppressors and the struggle of the oppressor as opposed to the struggle of the people who they're even i mean even like the things that you hear about like zionism and manifest destiny right this idea that it's like no this is our shit honestly and if like people are in the way like then sorry you know like the way barry weiss was talking about trying to somehow acknowledge that children were dying but then use the rationalization that, well, this is part of the actualization of like the dream of Zionism becoming a reality, that that's a byproduct of that.

And you just look at our own history in this country to the amount of indigenous people that were just completely there's genocide. We're kicking people off of their land and making way for these other people coming because yeah you know god told us this is our shit now yeah i'm gonna move she called it unavoidable the death of children was unavoidable in the mission of zionism and so it's amazing that she doesn't take the next step and go well that's that makes zionism incompatible with civilization then you know right or what religion says hey the death of children is inevitable y'all right for us to get our to get get the bag like no those things don't work together right do you think there is some like lie that's like they they've

told themselves or do you think they're just ultimately like, no, I deserve to exist and people who I'm who are of my ethnicity deserve to exist and other people don't. Or do you think there's like some way that they've like I'm always curious about that. Like someone like Barry Weiss, like does she know that she's straight up treating people like they don't deserve to exist because of their race and religion. Yeah. There's a couple of lies. There's a lot of lies actually, but I think there's a few that stand out to me as maybe the most significant. The first one I would say is that Palestinian children are taught at a young age to hate Jewish people. I don't think anyone thinks that it's necessary for Palestinian children to learn to hate the IDF by anyone other than the IDF.

You can't expect kids who are growing up in actual modern day ghettos. Gaza is often called the largest open air prison. You don't expect kids who are growing up in that prison to love the prison guards. And so I think there's this lie that someone like Barry would tell herself, like, well, if only those kids' parents would stop teaching them to hate Israelis, that they would come around and the violence would stop. Israelis that they would come around and the violence would stop. It's like, no, she won't admit to herself that the violence now is a result of Israeli conquest. You know, another lie that I think plays a really huge role here is that there is that this is like in a continuation of a 4000 year old story. continuation of a 4,000-year-old story, right? That this is somehow, if you look at what happened to the Jewish populations 4,000 years ago, that you understand why they're so violent right now,

because they see the violence right now as justified because of what their ancestors have been going through. And you're right. If you look at it from 4,000 years ago and you look at how Jewish people have been nonstop oppressed everywhere that they go, sure, you can understand why they're so desperate for their own state. But at the same time, who are you carrying the violence out against? Because the people who are dying right now are not your oppressors. They can't be your oppressors because they don't have any means to oppress you. The third lie I think is really important. This idea that if Palestinians put down their arms, there would be peace.

But if the Israelis put down their arms, there would be no more Israel. This is a justification for the two-state solution and that Palestinians and Israelis at a fundamental level are incompatible and could never live in peace because of the ways that Palestinians are anti-Semitic. That's the lie. The truth is, before the creation of Israel, there were Jewish Arabs living all across the Arab world. Arabs living all across the Arab world. And there's also the idea that if Palestinians didn't use their arms, that there would be peace. I think Sheikh Jarrah, the neighborhood where the evictions were happening and that sort of sparked this last round of violence is very significant in the fact that they've been experimenting with non-violent resistance and that they have been trying to go to the courts and prove that the homes that they

live in have been long-time residencies for generations. But the documents that they have are invalid in the Israeli courts because the Israeli courts have made them invalid, right? And they have like these non-violent protests where they chain themselves to their buildings. They try and like organize and they have both jewish israelis and arab israelis come together to to try and resist the bulldozers who are coming in to clear these homes to make ways for settlements and they don't work they don't work these people are still being ethnically cleansed so if the non-violence resistance doesn't work how can you justify saying that if only they stopped the violence, we could have peace? Because there are Palestinians who have stopped

the violence in the West Bank and they don't have peace. In fact, they're losing ground and they are the ones who are facing an existential threat. If the trends continue, if the settlements continue to get built, there will not be any more West Bank. East Jerusalem will no longer have its ancient Arab Muslim character. So it's insane. It's insane that they would believe that if only they would experiment with nonviolence. Well, look at Sheikh Jarrah. Proof that it doesn't work.

Again, that's why I'm like, it's the same thing marginalized people especially black people go through in this country too which is essentially this idea that there's no acknowledgement that the status quo as it is is the violence to begin with too it's just more like well what see they're on the streets if they just didn't do that or if they just stopped resisting no no you're failing to acknowledge the environment that that has been created because of this systemic oppression. And if you can't acknowledge that, then it's a disingenuous conversation about how to get to an end point. If you can't even see that this environment is violence itself. Thanks. And yeah, you just hope that that's this is can reach a tipping point. I mean, you know, used to be like five years ago.

If you had something to say about Israel, like you were just panned categorically. And now it seems more and more, I think people as they educate themselves or just see things for as they are. And I think probably get in touch with all the different forms of oppression people experience

and saying, oh yeah, this is not good. Yeah. Things do feel different this time, don't they? I mean, we had CNN interviewing forms of oppression people experience they're saying oh yeah this is not good yeah yeah things things do feel different this time don't they i mean we have cnn interviewing uh palestinians in palestine getting their perspective and that's something i've never seen before right we usually get like the israeli ambassador or uh an israeli pr rep to argue the targeting points. And that's it. We never hear from like a Sheikh Jarrah resident and CNN had him on for like 10 minutes. And I do think to prove what you're saying

about this all being the same fight, I think this is a result of the work that Black Lives Matter activists have been putting in all summer and last summer. Yeah, I think so. So, you know, it's become undeniable from a marketing standpoint that if you are in the news business and you aren't talking about these perspectives, you aren't reputable anymore. And I think that's something that's changed in the past couple of years. And that's why I think outlets like MSNBC or CNN who have never talked to these people are starting to. It's amazing.

or CNN who have never talked to these people are starting to. It's amazing. Right. And yeah, you have like people like Ayman Mulkhildin, who's like also actually during the time he has the news desk, he's like, I'm going to spit it from the Palestinian side, y'all, just so you know, Mehdi Hassan is also doing that. So it's interesting that these people have been elevated into the mainstream media and now actually being like, I'll talk some real shit for a second. And they're keeping their jobs. It's interesting that these people have been elevated into the mainstream media and now are actually being like, I'll talk some real shit for a second. And they're keeping their jobs. It's amazing. Yeah, exactly.

And but it's incremental. But yeah, I think like we're saying, like we're I think a lot of people now are as they get more aware of what history is and what oppression is, it's harder to just do these like really disingenuous pivots and and like you know manipulative news coverage to completely obscure what's happening yeah we're not out of the woods yet but it's it's changing for sure yeah i think we're i mean i don't know if it was on mic but we were talking about colbert earlier talking about how progressive biden is as he's like putting out all this fucking pro-israeli bullshit like i i think the mainstream is still way behind but it does seem like you know hopefully we're moving in the right direction yeah i mean i'm curious what's nike gonna come out with their ad with the palestinian kicks

yeah you know what i mean like that's and and not just the habibi sbs dunks that came out you know what i mean like something real and i think that's that'll be a real turning point is when like like brands enter this conference because it was one thing for them to be quiet on like the blm stuff but i'm curious if that if we'll see the crossing of that rubicon i think i think that might be on the horizon because you know uh lionel messi and uh cristiano ronaldo two of the biggest soccer stars are very pro-palestine you know, Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, two of the biggest soccer stars, are very pro-Palestine, you know? Right. And there was this FIFA event planned where Barcelona FC was supposed to play a game in Israel proper.

And Messi came out and was like, I'm not doing that. Because it's a way to raise awareness to the fact that Israel in a certain point, basically shot Palestinian soccer players in the legs so that they can never participate in sports again. And if you're listening and that sounds unbelievable, Google it, it happened. They, these soccer players were shot in the legs and in the feet so that they can never play sports again. And how could you support a universal expression of sport like soccer, which is like the religion in most countries in the world. And at the same time,

create space to play soccer in a place where they will shoot you in the legs. If you aren't the right ethnicity or the right religion. Right. Yeah. And I mean, it definitely helps me have like, like Maradona. I remember he was,

he was famous. He was like, in my heart, I'm a Palestinian. Right. You know helps when you have like like maradona i remember he was he was famous he was like in my heart i'm a palestinian right you know and you have people like that too like it it helps soccer players or you know athletes kind of get on the right page but yeah it's definitely it's glacial it's like everything but it's it's interesting to see sort of like the traditional smoke screens be less effective than they normally are. It's interesting that athletes, I mean, like the shut up and dribble types, like what want to shut them down extra hard because they're people who don't come up through the typical like vetting process of, you know, mainstream journalists and mainstream entertainers and politicians. journalists and mainstream entertainers and politicians. And so they are people who get this huge influence and their ideas haven't been vetted or even paid attention to by the powers that be, right? So they're sometimes the only influential voices that can get out there and say the thing that isn't approved by the oppress know, the oppressors, basically. All right, let's take a quick break.

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That was like the day that people were like, oh, shit, maybe Biden is what that is the thing the fulcrum that shifted that was like the day that people are like oh shit maybe biden is gonna win this thing like was south carolina that was huge yeah and you know all this is saying now he is speaking the language of the liberal that won't fight for what is needed and using this well don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good rhetoric to explain incremental reform. Because right now, look, Biden wants to have his police reform bill on his desk by May 25th because George Floyd apparently was the only black man to be killed by police. So he felt that was like a significant day. And rather than actually saying, I want substantive reform rather than some kind of big spectacular gesture on the anniversary of his killing. It's it's it's turning this process into just like, well, fuck, how many Republicans can we get?

And I just want to play this this soundbite from Jim Clyburn, because it's just it's really frustrating to hear from somebody who you think understands what the stakes are when it comes to police reform. Well, you know, I will never sacrifice good on the altar of perfect. I just won't do that. I know what the perfect bill will be. We have proposed that. I want to see good legislation. And I know that sometimes you have to compromise. But let me say this. I have been saying from the beginning, we have well-trained police officers. We've got to do a better job of recruiting police officers. Okay, bad apples, bad apples. Got it, got it,

got it. It's bad apples. It's not the whole fucking tree is bad. But anyway, Jim, the way the thing they were talking about was qualified immunity because that's something the Senate is stalling on. They don't want qualified immunity to be abolished. Okay, because that is the practice that protects police from being sued and if that's off the table what then you're still giving the police carte blanche to do

whatever the fuck they want so how is that gonna do anything so again this is another frustrating moment recently well you know republicans are gonna do this and we know it's not perfect but we need the good bill and that brings us to to Joe Manchin, who again is now saying he doesn't know about this voting rights bill, if he can support it because he wants bipartisanship and he wants Republicans to offer amendments to get this over the line. You remember the stimulus bill? They offered amendments and didn't fucking vote for the thing. They played your dumb asses. Right. So now you're going to let this shit happen with voting rights. I mean, Joe Manchin, not that I expect more from him, but again, this is why we need to blow up the filibuster if it's going to happen. But if we're talking in the

strict, narrow context of the legislative process, they're fucking up so bad and they're completely ceding ground to a group of people who have no interest in furthering anything. If the Republicans had their voting rights bill, it would be that nobody could vote except them. Right. Right. All right. Let's let's take a quick look at our stupid future. So, like I said, Mad Max, I think a lot of people think Mad Max is our future. But I think we need to take that just a couple clicks stupider because at least Mad Max, you know, future desert pirates know what to store gas in.

Um, they had to, so there, there was this hack that froze up a fuel pipeline that led to a gas shortage in the Southeast of the United States. And because that became a story there was a run on gas and like people were stocking up on gas and uh to the point that gas stations ran out of gas on wednesday i believe they started having to issue warnings telling people not to pour gasoline into plastic bags.

Like if that happened in Mad Max, it would just... You'll get the plastic bags! They wouldn't do that. At least they know how gasoline works. I don't know. I mean, that pipeline getting hacked is fucking freaky yeah yeah like this shit really fucked up all that supply but again it's just like the worst part of like american consumer culture which is like it's all fucking mine get the fuck away

yeah yeah i need the fucking gas it's like okay look you know this country will ruin a fucking whole third of the earth to get some gas. So I think you could relax that the gas will. I don't know if you've seen the history of this place. The gas will flow, but it's not. There's even a guy who accidentally, I think, blew up his car, too. I'm sure. He smoked a cigarette near it because his whole fucking car was filled with gas canes. Yeah, he had a gas bindle stick over his shoulder.

It was just full of gasoline and a bindle stick. It's just a fucking hefty bag on a broomstick. I love how capitalist this whole thing is, man. I mean, these people are probably thinking, okay, the prices are about to soar. Let me get my hands on this valuable resource and sell some if I need to or just like hoard it. I'll just be moving weight, moving Ziploc bags of gas.

Yeah. Oh my God. Like what you need, man, what you need? Like a quart? Oh, you need a quart? All right. So in Newark, we have this corner called Broaden Market. And this is like where all these people just like sell

whatever is on their little trolley carts. And for like this whole past year after COVID, there's people selling you know hand sanitizer and these ziploc bags like massive amounts of like hand sanitizer and ziploc bags and now i'm like wondering if i need some gas if i could just go there and get some right if they got it for you is that the bus side uh i i prefer my hand sanitizer to be artisan artisanal batch, uh, batches, handmade,

homemade batches. Yeah. Earthen clay pot. Yeah. I mean, this is just like, it's not just the climate change that's going to kill us. I feel like there's going to be a lot of people,

you know, you do see this in the post-apocalyptic movies that it's also our species inability to think critically in the face of in this case discomfort and fear yeah so there's a second storyline that i feel like kind of ties in with this and that is how we're trying to get people to vaccinate themselves from the global pandemic that we're still living through we are uh make it sexier for me. It can't just be that I'm going to be safe and inoculated from the virus. What else though? So there's the lottery, which I'm not mad at. There are, I think, six people in Ohio who got the vaccine. You don't even need to do

an extra signup thing. It's just one of the people who got vaccinated uh is going to get their name is going to get pulled from a hat and they're going to get a million dollars wow there's another state that's just paying you a hundred dollars there's a county in like if you just pay they're like all right here's your here's your c-note yeah that's okay i'm moving. Yeah. And California Lodi is giving people like $50 or maybe it's just $25. But the gas company is basically like, we'll give you a $25 credit if you just let us know. My favorite, though, is the Shake Shack Mayor de Blasio New York City agreement where they have teamed up to make it so that you get free crinkled cut fries if you go to one of the participating ones it's not all shake shacks in new york's in manhattan uh and if you buy one of two sandwiches which i think is which i think is just so perfect

like right the the just best version of big D Democrats, like kind of means testing a thing like being like, so you have to prove that you were actually going to shop at Shake Shack and buy one of these two sandwiches. And if you can do that and bring one of these two forms of ID and proof that you got vaccinated, then we will give you a free small crinkle cut fries, baby.

That's, that's $3 by the way, they're giving you $3. And like, I, if, if you told me that they were doing this just completely without any access to the vaccine,

it's not like I'd be like, yo, everybody go to the shake shack. Like that's not a good deal, man. That's not a very good deal at all. I don't know. This is so fucked up, though.

You know what I mean? Like, the idea that they're like, we're going to give people a million dollars to get vaccinated. But then, like, what about the fucked up healthcare system? Right. Are they just going to toss out a million dollars like that? What about the people who are being crushed by their medical debt like you know it's just such a it's so fucking bleak man like the whole thing is just so many levels of like turning your blinders onto a situation and just merely doing like all right

here's the carrot let's ignore the wasteland we're dangling it in but if you had a class action lawsuit like for americans against the trump administration's bungling of the covid response i feel like you could get a million dollars for a lot of people like just legally like if if there were was a just uh judicial system i guess but i mean like they you know those people deserve their million dollars but so it's just that many many more people deserve it and it shouldn't just be the lottery version of course some stupid person who's they're gonna be rewarded for being a holdout i mean now i'm in my like boomer fucking student debt cancellation bag i'm like well i had to get the vaccine and i i didn't do no promise of a

million dollars i don't think they're just doing it to people who, who sign up now. I don't think maybe. Oh, I'm okay. Like if, if you have been, then you're eligible.

I mean, either way, I think just this, it's so it's weird that it's like, we're using people's greed to motivate them to act collectively, like in what's better for the great common good. It's just, it's Americaica baby there was

this doctor in new york who was just going table to table at a brewery asking them if they wanted to get a vaccine shot and if they said yes you would get them a free beer i think that's hilarious like did she have the vaccines in her bag she had them on her and she said yo come over here and get i'll give you a free beer. You can get this free beer. Let me just poke you with this needle. The manager's like, hey, what the fuck did I say? Get the fuck out of here. Hey, she's not a doctor. She's not a fucking doctor, everyone.

She was like the health commissioner. I think that day, she said that she vaccinated over 150 people. Fine. Beer is fine. She put the numbers up. she put the numbers up she put the numbers up you can't argue against that yeah right push your t you got the numbers on the board she put the numbers on the board that's it yeah yeah so there's probably like 75 alcoholics out there

who have been vaccinated twice and they have like no idea don't remember just rolling around behind like putting out their other arm they're like wait you have three Band-Aids on this arm. Oh, really? No, it's my first one. Hold on, you got a weird wig on. Hold on. You got a fake mustache. Norm.

God. Ah, you got me. You got me. Can I get the beer, though? I'll still get the shot if I can get the beer, though. I'll get any shot you want man hey let's do a shot right now you want to do a shot doctor which one you want to do jaeger what do you want to do all right and real quick i want to talk about a new legend there was cat

lawyer but we got a new legend in the game of fucking up a zoom entrance uh a zoom call so this man showed up to a court date and apparently he didn't have the like self-view set up in a zoom uh or just like didn't know how to use zoom he looks like he's like in his 20s or 30s like so it's kind of surprising that he's this bad at technology uh but we probably should just play the audio he Well, yeah, okay. But what you're going to hear is this judge reacting to the fact that this man's display name is Buttfucker 3000. Right, right. And I will say this ahead of time. I don't think this was a mistake. He thought he was being fucking funny.

And he says, don't be shit. Yes. Watch his face, especially when he's like, oh, it says. Hold on. Okay, we're going to watch the clip, and then we'll talk about it on the other side. Good morning, sir. What's your name? Judge is pissed.

Silence from the 20 people in there. Me? Yeah, you. Yes. Nathaniel Saxon, sir. Your name's not Buttfucker3000. That's your yo-ho. Logging into my court with that is your screen name.

His face drops. Why don't you say that as your screen name? His face drops right away. I'll discuss that in a little bit. What kind of idiot logs into court like that? What's your name again? Nathaniel Saxton, sir, but I don't believe that I typed anything like that in. Well, that's what it says. See see that's where i don't believe him this to me looks like if i was a teacher i'm like oh you didn't know you think you fucking funny get the fuck out my room i don't know man and then so he comes back later with nathaniel saxon and he

says that it's he's just so bad at describing it. And so he says that it was like the name of a wireless speaker and it was an inside joke. But he just looks so flustered and is like, I know who me. I know it's just he had big like white guy. I'm sorry. I didn't know I couldn't do that energy. Yeah. Some level where he was like, oh Oh Cause he It reminded me of like You know that

When we used to go out And eat And the bit I would do Talking about I forgot my wallet And I'd be like Oh shit Oh no

My Fuck I forgot my wallet Like It felt like Big fake ass I fucked up Like energy

But either way The reality is That's That's a fucking You don't want to be That guy anymore So Yeah You try you don't want to be that guy anymore. So, yeah, you try. You try.

I mean, to be fair, you got me to pay for lunch like 18 times before. Oh, hell yeah. So, I mean, I might just be very gullible, I think, is what we're learning here. No, Jack, I'm really forgetful. And you're just a good man. I thought the that's right. I thought I thought the pasta counter lady was real. And now I think this dude was actually mistaken.

And pasta counter lady ended up being a part from like that. You see that article is from a production company, like some magician runs. Oh really? It's like, they're all, so many of these videos are coming out of some, like this magician's production company. Oh, hell yeah. You know what? So it wasn't a real life thing. It was a set up.

Set up. Damn it. Once again, fooled. Alright. Well, I don't know how to deal with that information. Just deny, deny. Fake news, fake news, fake news.

Maybe he's actually magic. Oh, shit. It's been but that's what, maybe he's actually magic. Oh shit. Eamon, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Where can people find you and follow you? Eamon.com is the name. You can go to Eamon,

spelled A-Y-M-A-N-N.com. And it's sort of like my link tree style website. And then slate.com. That's, that's who pays my check. Yeah. Yeah. There it is.

Yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Taylor Swift updates, Twitter account tweets, update, as most of you know, I haven't been very active

in the past couple of months because I was in prison. Sad face. I'm back now, though. More Taylor Swift updates coming soon. Based. And Ali underscore Anzal says, oh my God, why?

And then Taylor Swift updates replies dot dot dot, I refuse to join the IDF. LMAO. LOL. Back to getting these Taylor Swift updates off. Damn. Miles, where can people find you? what's the tweet you've been enjoying you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray and also my other podcast for 20 day

fiance check us out on twitch.tv slash 420 day fiance uh you know to get in on that let's see a few tweets i like this one is from Monkeepy Quinn. Quinn Welsh Wilson tweeted, We are closed. Nobody wants to work anymore. All they want to do is repeated gunshots and cash register noise. Shout out to MIA. All they want to do is get some money okay uh it was just like seeing it in text

another tweet i like uh also just along that lines of the nobody wants to work anymore at brad bat tweeted nobody wants to work anymore has big time girls don't want to date nice guys energy yeah and i'm like oh yeah you got something there and then one more fuck sake at begora bejesus tweeted interviewer how do you explain the four-year gap in your cv me oh that's when i went to yale that's very impressive stupid but you gotta love it uh let's see some tweets i've been enjoying steph mccann tweeted wait no why are plane tickets so expensive you're going that way anyway just give me a ride uh a uh jocelyn silver tweeted at dinner with my mom's friend who just informed me that she used to buy

Quaaludes and do heroin with Lisa Frank which I think is just a true story and fucking cool and then Paul McCallion at Orange Pulp tweeted people who say frozen bananas taste like ice cream

do you think I'm a fucking idiot I hate frozen bananas so like ice cream. Do you think I'm a fucking idiot? I hate frozen bananas, so that just really resonated with me. You can find me on Twitter at Jack O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have

a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We'll link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you should go check out. Miles, what song are we recommending today? This is a

track by Binkbeats. He's a musician who does full-on recreations of electronic tracks, but he plays all the instruments and like affects them so they sound like you know a dilla track or a flying lotus track but he's actually playing everything um and this is a track where he's doing a track by flying lotus called getting there but this is the bink beats cover you can get this on spotify but i would i'm what i'm going to

do in the footnotes check out the YouTube video because you will see this man play everything from like the bells to like the electric piano and the drums and even the vocals. And he's recreating this track and it's just dope. If you're a musician, you're just going to feel so jealous because he's so literate on so many instruments, but it's still dope to watch.

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