The Daily Zeitgeist - Oscars So Homogeneous, Bernie vs Warren? 1.14.20

Episode Date: January 14, 2020

In episode 548, Miles and special guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by comedian Alyssa Limperis to discuss Cory Booker dropping out of the presidential race, Secretary of Defense Mark Ester claiming he didn't see any evidence about Iran planning an attack, Trump accepting money to put enlisted members of military at risk, Bernie Sanders getting more endorsements, a private meeting between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie, how meaningless the Dow being up is, the 2019 RITZ Crushed Crackers recipe contest winner, Oscar nominations, and more!FOOTNOTES: Sen. Cory Booker exits the Democratic presidential primary, making the field less diverse Trump's "Many embassies" speech WATCH: Mark Esper says he "didn't see" specific evidence showing Iran planned to strike 4 U.S. embassies Trump claims Saudi Arabia has already deposited one billion dollars “in the bank” in exchange for US troops being sent. He then goes on to talk about South Korea paying $500 million for US troops defending them against North Korea. Bernie Sanders’s Latest Endorsement: Sunrise Movement Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources say 'Inequality in a nutshell': Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says the Dow's record high is meaningless for many Americans 2019 RITZ Crushed Crackers recipe contest winner updates a classic Oscar nominations 2020: See the full list of nominees A Conversation With The Creator Of #OscarsSoWhite Oscars Almost So White as Diverse Nominees Overlooked After 2019's Historic Wins The Awkwafina Oscars Snub Is Even Worse Than You Think Oscar Nominations Presenter Issa Rae Calls Out Female Directors Snub: Congrats to 'Those Men' Universal Has Abandoned Its Academy Awards Campaign For "Cats," Shocking Everyone Who Heard It Was Even A Plan WATCH: Chris Gaines (Garth Brooks) - Lost In You Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 116, Episode 2 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. This is the podcast where we look at America's cadaver, open the skull, look inside, have a nightmare based on what we saw because it's our shared consciousness. And officially, off the top, we want to say, for the record, fuck the Koch brothers, as in the Koch industry. Okay? And also, fuck Fox News. Wow. Yeah, brave.

Brave as you'd say. My brave friends. It's Tuesday, January 14th, 2020. My name is Miles Gray A.K.A. The phone rings In the middle of the night My co-host

Yes, when are you gonna start to get high Oh, Daddy Jack You know I'm stoned all the time Cause Miles, Miles gonna get high. Yes, Miles is gonna get, he's gonna really get stoned. I just had to take a little bit of creative license at the end there. Thank you to Hannah Soltis. Back at it with that Cindy Lauper.

Gorgeous. Girls just want to have fun. Thank you so much. I can only sing in falsetto. I have a terrible regular voice. I really spend a lot of my time focusing on my falsetto. Girls just want to have fun. Thank you so much. I can only sing in falsetto. I have a terrible regular voice. I really spend a lot of my time focusing on my falsetto. Stop nagging yourself. It was great.

I'm nagging myself because I'm doing pickup artists with my own sense of confidence, and then I'm hoping I'll fall in love with myself based on the nagging. That's good. That sounds... We're like two years out from that being an actual book. Yeah. It's a way people would be like, nah, nag yourself. Start nagging yourself.

Anyway, who is that? Who is that? Who is that? What's that spooky voice I hear? Oh, well, it's none other than my fantastic guest co-host. You already know. It's Jamie Loftus. It's substitute teacher day.

Don't be shocked that my takes are so tight. I'm still, I'm still Jamie from the Zype. Look, how did I fumble that? Go on. I've got some other ones. Okay.

A.K.A. Zanvita Peron. Oh. A.K.A. Queen Elizabeth I. A.K.A. Alexander Hamilton. A.K.A. Zanvra Day O'Connor. Zanvra Day O'Connor. Wow, the Zamboni brand is strong. Well, now especially that I've mounted one.

You know what needs to happen? We should maybe... You're right. We should let that slide. No, that's fine. No, I'm kidding. What were you saying? I was just more focused on my bad idea than your joke. Is that I would love to see a pimped out Zamboni where your face is airbrushed on the hood and shit. Oh my god. Official Zam Zam.

I feel like I would have to die first for that to happen. No, no, no. That would be like Rest in Paradise. I know, right? And then I would have to die first for that to happen. No, no, no. That would be like Rest in Paradise. I know, right? And then I would get the hairbrush Zamboni. That would be good. And then it's immediately washed off. Oh, yeah, after one game.

Then next day, like, yeah, we need a fur. One game. They're like, no, this is a fucking dignified vehicle. Let's get this woman's mug out of here. Well, I mean, let's just put that tragedy to the side for a second of you not being on a Zamboni. And let's take a second to welcome our guest, the just amazingly talented, hilarious person who I felt like I thought I had met her, but it's only because of Twitter, you know, how that happens.

Please welcome Alyssa Limparis. Thank you so much. Now, I would have prepared a song. I would have prepared a song. You're talented enough. Just go off. Go off, honey. Whatever you want to do. Oh, my gosh. What's a nickname that you had in high school uh well you know my last name is lim paris

and people would have a lot of fun with like like yeah lim paris biscuit limp yeah like pimp like yeah it wasn't accurate i was i didn't even know what like a penis was like it was like i was not it wasn't like what is the heck yeah i didn't even know what a penis was. It was like, I was not, it wasn't. You're like, what the heck are you guys talking about? Yeah, I didn't even know what pimp was. Right. I was like, pimples? Oh, no, I have acne. But yeah.

Where'd you grow up? I grew up in Seekonk, Massachusetts, but it's like right on the border of Rhode Island. Yeah. East Coast. Yeah, Massachusetts. That's right. How's that? Is that close to Scituate?

Yeah, all right. Okay. That's a nice one, because people usually say Boston. I like that you came in with Scituate. Yeah, Okay. That's a nice one because people usually say Boston. I like that you came in with Situate. That's a nice local ref. How about Milford? Okay. Okay, I'm good.

We got a fucking local in the house. Maybe I played a couple periods of hockey over in Newton. Oh, in Newton. Okay, Newton. And you know what? Now that I see it, we're drinking. Newton's rich? Newton's a little bit rich.

The only reason I know Milford is because I play trumpet, and there's a valve oil called Alcas, like valve oil, and it's made in Milford, Mass. And in my mind, I would say Alcas, Milford, Mass. There's number one export is trumpet lube. Trumpet lube. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. And also, I want the listeners to know, we're drinking both sparkling water and cold brew

from the one, the only. yes, Kirkland Signature. That's where we got clothes as a kid. People are worried about Amazon taking over. Kirkland is already. That's right. My hometown, Brockton, was called Shoe City because there used to be a lot of shoe factories back when things were made in America. And now there's one shoe factory left. So if you've ever worn Foot Joy.

Oh, really? Don't they make golf stuff? Isn't that for golf? Yeah. That's the one shoe. That's the one thing left is you surviving foot joy. The irony though, it's a business that appeals to like one percenters. It's so true.

Like it's where we're like, it's not like a boot for like arc welders. It's like, Hey man, you want to like fucking exploit some working people on the golf course? It's Massachusetts parasite. Basically. Yeah. Well, shout want to like fucking exploit some working people on the golf course? It's Massachusetts parasite. Yeah. Well, shout out to the great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I would never say state. No. I don't want that smoke. Before we get to know you even better, Alyssa, and the great Commonwealth of Massachusetts,

let's tell people what we're going to preview, what we're going to talk about. Cory Booker has dropped out. Yep. That's the end of that. Four embassies. That whole argument that Trump had as to why he had to put everyone in the world in jeopardy. That that story is just falling up. It's disintegrating upon reentry into reality.

Also, just, you know, some some back and forth with Bernie and the Elizabeth Warren campaign. Just there's there's all there's all kinds of things going on. Like he's he's surging and now other stories are coming out. There's all kinds of things going on. He's surging, and now other stories are coming out. People are mad. Look, a lot's going on. We have these primaries. People are stressed. And I think we're seeing knives come out a little bit.

People are starting to be like, is it time to start throwing dirt? Are we there yet? We'll see. Get your little right rise out. Also, we're going to talk about the winners of the Ritz Cracker competition. I did not know. You know award season is in full swing when we're talking about Ritz Cracker competition. You can't even get it.

That's what everyone's talking about on Twitter this morning. Everyone's losing their shit. Issa Rae was like, I can't believe it. She's like, congratulations to these crackers. Sorry. Sorry. Congratulations to these crackers. Sorry.

And yeah, we'll talk about the Oscar nominations and many more. So first, Alyssa, what is something from your search history that, you know, is a little revealing about who you are? Well, I was thinking about this last night. I couldn't really sleep last night. And I Googled. This is something I did Google. Not the actors' names. I Googled, are Dwight and Jim friends in real life? And it's like

that is, that's like a 4 a.m. search. It's like I don't know. Who cares? Can we guess? You're then Googling from the reality of the show? Exactly. So like it's not even it's not even like the editing of the actors names

it was just like oh you know I wanna I gotta know I think they're not are Krasinski and Wilson a real duo yes right

are they well see because the reason I looked it up is because I have never watched The Office like all the way through the end

like I used to just watch it till when Michael left and recently I watched the end and I was like, it's really sweet. You really see the two of them.

Like they, I think, yeah. They create a bond. Yeah. And then I was like, Oh, I wonder if they're still pals.

I mean, there were, you know, every interview, I feel like that question you never get. Every answer you always get is like, yeah. Oh yeah.

That's it. It's never like, Oh my God. They went to Aspen. They go to Aspen together. Every day. They rode motorcycles across the United States together. If there's not pictures of them at lunch.

Exactly. I don't believe it for a second. I'm like, show me the lunch pics or you're not real friends. I agree. Well, it seems like also, I don't know if I'm wrong, but I feel like Rainn Wilson came out of being a theater actor. Yes. And then Krasinski was just more of like, I feel like they started in different places.

Oh, is he also from Massachusetts? He's from Massachusetts too, true. Where? I don't know. Somewhere rich probably. Okay. I don't know where. Anyway.

Him and Chris Evans are from like, Similar parts. Massachusetts. Oh. Ooh. Do tell. So yeah, I mean, I feel like they seem like sort of different people from their origins. Don't you feel like we all look that stuff up too?

Just to, you just like, it's like you want to believe this it's like searching like it's dr mifflin yeah it's like you just want to like like believe in like this yeah the second i realized they were shooting like in la i was just like i was like i'm driving up and down those streets i'm finding it it was yeah i mean i wasn't devastated because i grew up here so i knew nothing's real on tv oh you grew up here so I knew nothing's real on TV oh you grew up here yeah cause that's how even when I found out

like wait Seinfeld wasn't shot in like the streets of New York City I was like yeah Gilmore Girls hit for me

I'm like they're not in Connecticut Stars Hollow fucking Burbank Burbank for the whole time friends yeah it's

I know yeah nothing's real nothing's real yeah I wish they weren't the one part in the post michael scott era of the office i really liked when james spader's character robert california came in he's so the halloween episode where he was like slow incepting everyone like figuring out their fears so he could tell that ghost story at the end i think is really a remarkable episode yeah he's a i I got James Spader's remark. Yeah, he's such an insane talent.

He has such a good creep vibe. Totally. Yeah. I never saw his episodes. Yeah, he's just... Oh, yeah. It's like sort of right after Michael leaves. It's like they settle on him taking over for Michael

after like the little cameos from like Will Ferrell and Jim Carrey and like Ray Romano. Everyone was there for three episodes, and then they decided on a boss. Is that how that works? Yeah. The CEO or something. I watch it so disjointed now.

Exactly. What's something that's overrated? Yeah. Okay. So I know we're past the season, but I got to say I'm happy the holidays are over. I'm not a big fan of holiday food. I don't go crazy over like Thanksgiving food, Christmas meals. I don't, nothing excites me

about those dinners. I'm glad to be eating my snacks again. I'm glad to be back on that. Yeah. Is it, so I'm guessing this is born out of a pattern where Christmas time comes around and then you're subjected to like the same three meals every year. Exactly. Why are we still eating the same meals? So I get it. I don't eat turkey aside from Thanksgiving Day, but I love stuffing. That's like the one thing I really get excited about on that plate. It's really not the turkey. And then Christmas, I've never really had a consistent Christmas.

What's Christmas meal for you all? Yeah, Christmas, I'm Greek. So we have this like, my boyfriend was at my Christmas this year and he was like, none of this food is food any human would eat, like, on a normal day. He's like, this, it feels like it was food from, like, a different era. Wow. This is like, yeah, heavy, really, like, heavy cream sauce, sauces, and, like, lasagna. It's like, wait, none of us would eat this.

This will wipe you out. Like, normally, yeah. Yeah. That's, like, meant to do that. So you're hibernating. Yeah, it's meant to do that. Yeah, it's true. Yeah.

I don't really know. Yeah, I like Thanksgiving food. I like gravy. I like potatoes. I like stuffing. My favorite food when I was a kid was corn. Yes, corn. On the cob or just kernels?

From the can, baby. Oh, corn, yes. Okay. A little sweetness. Give a little Jamie her corn. Yes. Give a little Jamie her can of corn and send her on her way. Get like a full ass plate of corn and just like go to my room.

Oh, would you legit have a meal like that? Yeah, I still do sometimes. Sometimes you're just like the little, what do they call them? The green giant steamer packs. I have a whole ass thing of corn.

It's good. Any butter? Just straight corn? it depends. No, I kind of like corn in the raw. Wow. Minimalist.

I'm not like the girls you know. I've got a secret honey like a a holiday or especially like a christmas meal that's kind of chaos i feel like every family has a different yes approach well especially if you have like if you're not american like you have any kind of immigrant background so shout out to elas and to the greek people uh and then also katina pio um what does that mean like should we get a drink or something? Yeah, sure. I know the song. My Greek friends would always sing that.

And I was like, what does that mean? He's like, so it means like, let's get a drink. God, songs are the best way to learn languages. Oh, yeah. Because it's like melody, even though like I don't even know how to pronounce it. And then that's like the one bit of common ground I'll have with people. But yeah, like for me, like my mom will make just any random Japanese dish because half the time she doesn't know it's Christmas.

Do they know it's Christmas time at all? No, they don't because they're not Christian and they live in another part of the world. Right. Yeah. I was just thinking about that song to take a tangent about like, yeah, it's yeah, most people wouldn't know that it's Christmas time. Right. But yeah, I just wouldn't know that it's Christmas time. Right. But yeah, I just, yeah, I don't have anything consistent I eat for Christmas aside from

maybe there's like a, we'll go out to eat, but. Yeah. Nothing like that. I love getting back to normal routine. I love a routine too. So it's like, yeah, I don't like the switching of the routine. Oh, so it's, holidays are almost chaos for you. That's how I feel.

Holidays are almost, like, it's fun, but it's, I felt so happy getting back here and being like, I'm going grocery shopping and I'm like, yeah. Right, right, right. That's how I feel. Holidays are almost, like it's fun, but I felt so happy getting back here and being like, I'm going grocery shopping and I'm like, yeah. Right, right, right. Going back to my things. How long were you at home for? I will say I was home for a while.

I like, I was home for probably like three weeks. Okay. Two in New York City and you know, the suburbs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

A lot of time. What's something that's underrated? I love listening to FM radio. I don't think anyone listens anymore. People are like, the music's bad and there's commercials all the time. And I agree. Both those things are true. But I indulge in it.

It's kind of nice to not have to worry about like, when I'm on Spotify, I'm like, I got to find the coolest music. I got to be listening to it. The radio, it's like, just give me the song I already know. I'm dry. I'm stuck in traffic. Let me just belt out this like you know 30 year old song yeah mr brightside's having a revolution i can you listen to the radio oh you'll hear mr brightside

about four times it's that what a song what's staying power it really won't quit it won't win and it shouldn't could be any age yes it could be you could tell me it's you came out in the seventh like or like this year yeah yeah no it's i yeah but yeah people are always like oh there's just shit on the radio i'm like yeah great i love it i that's right yeah so for yeah because it takes the pressure off of you to provide a soundtrack for yourself exactly choose the truth yeah make the truth and then yeah you just get to look yeah the reason like you hear the same things over and over is because the way they do ratings is like people wear this like they used to wear a monitor like a nielsen like pager you had that would find out what station you were tuned into so because of

that a lot of people who work in offices that just play radio over their like speakers in an office it was like sort of artificially favoring like top 40 stations because that's sort of the most broad radio station you could play in an office. So then other stations are sort of like, well, we also need to be able to make sure that we're playing a hit. So no matter what, if you fucking tune to it and it's not one of the 9 million ads you're hearing, it's a fucking hit and you're going to stay for the chance to get that little bit of a metric bump. Oh, so true.

Yeah. But what's, wait, what stations are you listening to now to get your, your throwbacks? Yeah. Do you heart radio? Well, I have to say. For the record, yes. I have to say off the record. Okay, off the record.

This is off the record just between the three of us and all the listeners. I love country music. So not only am I listening to top 40, I'm listening to top 40 country music a lot of times. The top 40 country. I feel like that's like almost. So Lil Nas X. Lil Nas X. Yes.

Yes. Who are your favorite artists? Yeah, I love Little Big Town. I love Old Dominion. I love Zac Brown Band. But really, I grew up on country music, so I also think it's probably a thing of nostalgia being in LA, being on a different coast, being like, oh, a lot of things are unfamiliar here, but this is something.

I'm in a car and listening to this music. I could be in Massachusetts right now. And it's Chris Gaines. And it's Chris, yeah. Coming through the speakers. Yes, yes, yes. That's Garth Brooks' alter ego? Is it?

Wait, what was his alter ego? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's it. Okay, I just want to make sure. He's got an alter ego? Yes. Like Lady Gaga? Yo, he had like the swoop bang

and everything. That's fun. That is fun. I like that. Yeah. I didn't know they did that in country music. They do like a Beyonce, Sasha Fierce thing. Oh my.

Yes. Oh my God. He put out the whole, he was Chris Gaines. What the fuck is going on? That's my favorite thing about Kurt Rooks. The one with the two of them, that is incredible. What a weird thing to do. And he's got the little shit beard.

The little, yeah, soul patch. That's what they call it. Weird to want an alter ego and then go in the most disgusting facial. He was like, what if I was fucking gross? It's more of an alter emo. What is a myth, Alyssa? What is something that people just get wrong that you know the truth about I'll tell you what there is no cure for hiccups

but time and every time you get hiccups everyone in the room starts going you gotta stand on your elbow close your one eye yeah close your block your nostrils it's like no this is just my pain now and I have to see it till it's end and that's it there's no cause if there were it's a lung spasm technically

isn't it yeah it's a lung spasm technically isn't it? Yeah it's a lung spasm. Or a diaphragm is spasming or whatever. Yes and it's just got to do what's done is done. I used to do every fucking remedy. We all do. Up until not even joking maybe seven

years ago. And when it hits and it's like bad sometimes you're still desperate. That's what it is. It's such a desperate thing that happens that you'll listen to. Drinking upside down? You're like, sure. Fuck it. I would just be in like my chair and I would just put my head down and just sip water and I'm like, yeah, that did it. I know the drinking

upside down thing. It's like no one's ever been able to success. We all go down. And it just makes you choke. Yeah, it makes you choke. Yeah, and then you're choking Maybe it's a prank that kids were told just to be like, look at you idiot. You almost drowned yourself. Right, or parents being like, just makes you choke. Yeah, and then you're choking and hiccuping. Maybe it's a prank that kids were told just to be like, look at you, idiot. You almost drowned yourself. Right, or parents being like, just shut them up. Get them on their fucking head and let them drink upside down.

Or just stop breathing. That's another one. Just stop breathing and it'll stop. My family was big about pushing the fear element. They're like, you just have to be afraid. Yes, that's a big one. Oh, right, the surprise. The worst kind of people will take the fear angle and they'll be like, oh, if I fucking like stabbed you right now, you would stop hiccuping.

Or like my cousin would like hit us around. Are you hiccuping? Slap, slap, slap, slap, slap. He took fear as abuse. He heard fear and was like, yeah. Yeah. To incite violence on your cousins and be like, I'm helping. Helping your hiccups.

I'm helping. Also, what if I stabbed you? That's a classic. That's a classic. My cousin might be like, I'm helping. Helping your hiccups. Also, what if I stabbed you? That's a class. My cousin might be like, I'll stab you with a big. Really think about that shit. Yeah. It makes you think. Oh, that's horrifying. He's doing great. Oh, good. No, I'm kidding. That's cousins.

That's what cousins do. He's a professional hiccup doctor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just stabs kids with big pins and then all of a sudden they're not hiccuping. Who hasn't been stabbed with a bigic pen, though, to be honest? I don't know if I actually have. Or actually, a mechanical Bic pencil I've been hit with. I've accidentally stabbed myself with a mechanical pencil. Accidentally?

What do you mean? Well, I think in whatever you're in class, and then you're like, oh, you know. Oh, like you were just pounding your thigh with your fist? I pounded my thigh and thought, and then I kind of- Tenderized your quad? Tenderized myself, yeah. Wow. I care too much about-

Blade tenderized, that's what they call that in the business. Okay, so on to some news that isn't as big as Chris Gaines' soul patch. I'm not even joking. Probably like 20 years ago. That's going to change my day. Yeah. Chris Gaines? Just knowing about that.

I'm not even joking. Probably like 20 years ago. That's going to change my day. Yeah. Chris Gaines. Just knowing. And also knowing you and your imagination. Who knows what kind of creative work will come out of you even being introduced to Chris Gaines.

I agree. Right. Like, oh, my God. Wait, actually, Jamie, you could be Chris Gaines. I mean, you should. I think you are the person to bring. Put a little soul patch on. Sweep your bangs a little.

Not to like toot my own horn, but I could look like Chris Gaines. Do a whole motherfucking solo on that horn. Because I believe in it. Cory Booker, he has suspended his campaign. It's lights out. What does Rosario say? I don't know. I mean, he just had a video where he was very gracious and was like, you know, we tried our best. And I will support whoever the nominee is in the end and everybody down ballot.

Thank you so much for your time. That's a very Cory Booker. Like, he's like your soccer coach as a kid, you know? Right. Like, you lose everything and he's like, yep, that's okay. We tried our best. Hey, you know what, though? Let's go get pizza.

What I'm proud of is we went out on that field and we left it all out there. Exactly. And we would lose 10-0, 11-0 every time. But we tried our best. Hey, we didn't score a single goal. But do you not feel proud? Proud of you guys. Totally.

I mean, he'll be back. Yeah, he'll be back. I mean, I think he was a great, like he's's as an orator, had good moments where he was really sort of connecting the dots of some of the, you know, emotions around certain issues and and connecting that with certain policies. But I think at the end of the day, like when you look at the kinds of candidates who are really getting the attention, anyone who's trying to be just even, you know, even near the middle right now, isn't quite getting this sort of enthusiasm. And I think he was hoping for every person that dropped out, he would get a little bit more, a little bit more. And I think it just never materialized into. He wasn't willing to go as far left as some candidates and also wouldn't go as far right as Joe Biden. So you're just sort of left in this like no man's land.

Right. Especially with Trump. It's like especially this election. It's just not going to happen. Like where he's trump's so fucking extreme that like yeah you need to go we need someone like bernie because it's like yeah bernie's a response to trump you know or enthusiasm well anyway king he's a king the well the point you have the pendulum going one way yeah like it's only just creating more force for it to go the other way sit in the middle it's like yeah the pendulum will blow right by you.

I liked... My headcanon here is that Cory Booker was pacing around the offices being like, we cannot drop out before Marianne. We gotta... We have enough money to outlast Marianne. I'm not dropping out before Marianne.

I'm going to wait a week so it doesn't seem like that's what I was waiting to happen. She dropped out last Monday and now Yes. Right, right, right. She dropped out like last Monday and now he's like, okay, fine. Okay, it's been enough time. I feel like. That was the mantra in those campaign offices. It's just like, just not before Marianne.

Yes. Marianne was down to just herself in her campaign office and he's like, she's still not dropping out. What the fuck is going on? What the fuck is she thinking of happening? She's got like magical bugs working for her. She might. She might have. Wait, we might have to investigate that.

Marianne would employ fireflies. Jamie, every bug is magical. Every bug. There is no bug that is not magical. That's right, sister. What keeps the lights on here? Love. It really does.

Yeah. But also cash. Yeah. So actually, if you're going to send love or cash, please send cash. But also, but love works, but just not as well. Well, we'll see. We'll see plenty of Cory Booker in the future. Yeah. Yeah. So actually, if you're going to send love or cash, please send cash. But also, but love works, but just not as well. Well, we'll see. We'll see plenty of Cory Booker in the future. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I think this sort of underlines the lack of diversity. I think especially when considering the support that African-Americans give the Democratic Party, there are a lot of people like, why? Why isn't this field of candidates look more like the people that totally who have been supporting the party?

field of candidates look more like the people that totally who have been supporting the party and i think it's you know eventually there'll be a candidate that ticks all the boxes but i think for cory booker you know his love of wall street and big pharma not not exactly what is needed considering the stakes and what wall street and big pharma means to working people who cannot afford prescription drugs or get an increase in wages. Yeah. But we'll get to that later on. So until then, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi.

On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like David Duchovny. You know, New Yorkers have a reputation of being very tough, but it's not. It's not that way at all. They're very accepting. Jeff Goldblum. Are you saying secret fries? Secret fries. What? That's what you're saying? Yeah. And Kristen Wiig. I just became so aware that I'm such a loud chewer. My husband's just like, sometimes I'll be eating and he'll just be looking at me. I'm like, I'm just eating.

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of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like, why? That was one of those moments where you're just like, oh, wow. It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you. No worries. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we should check in with the president who, you know, last week was trying to explain to the entire world why he put everyone at risk

with his just very impulsive, impetuous decision to assassinate Soleimani, the general in Iran, but on Iraqi soil. So he says, so that authorization of military force counts for this, even those voted on how many years ago? You know, he's had a lot of trouble getting support because even the briefings he gave was pissing off senators who are Republicans who normally love every single thing he does. But the utter lack of clear explanation around the logic to go ahead and do something like this. And just the lack of like notificating, like, oh, my God. Notificating. Like notificating people.

Of course. Well, I'm cancelled. There you go. No, you're still lib, dude. Listen to how they talk. Notificating? I'll tell you what. Look, if you get cancelled, I'll make sure you get that Zamboni. Thank you so much. As far as Zamboni, right?

Cansbony. Yeah, Cansbony. Anyway. I'm sorry, I just ruined everything. No, no, no, no. You can also really tell last week when you were listening to any interview with any Republican that there was not a legit reason. Because they were all kind of like, the way they were talking, I was like, oh, that's

how I would talk about it if someone asked me right now. Right. Well, there were some definite, there were some thoughts and it's like, what? Yeah, no. He didn't say anything. There were some thoughts and it's like, what? Yeah, no. He didn't say anything.

At a rally, though, too, he, again, there was all this confidential information, classified information, couldn't share because as we see it, it sounds like there was no fucking reason. Of course. And also we found out that seven months ago he had basically greenlit some kind of attack. So there was no imminent threat. So let's just, I mean, I don't know why I'm thinking the president would be honest and take accountability in this instance, but he doesn't. And at a rally, suddenly he gave this information out where he was like, oh, this guy was planning all kinds of attacks, y'all. But he directed the recent rocket strikes that wounded four American service members, badly wounded, and killed an American citizen. That was just before we happened to hit him. Soleimani was actively planning new attacks,

and he was looking very seriously at our embassies and not just the embassy in Baghdad, but we stopped him, and we stopped him quickly, but we stopped him and we stopped him quickly and we stopped him cold. Boom. So again, taking, I don't, I don't know why he thought he was doing a WWF like taunting session,

but that's when he's playing to his crowds. But again, you heard there, he said, Oh, it wasn't just that one. It was many other embassies. And then that had a lot of people asking,

why didn't anyone hear this? Like what? This never came out until at a rally when the pressure's on because it's so clear that the administration has been lying. So then on Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark Esper, he went around to the shows and I don't know what happened, but he decided to tell the truth out loud to a journalist on TV. He was asked, you know, they were saying like, when he was asked about what the president was talking about with all this embassy talk, he was saying, well, the president believed

he probably and could have, there could have been attacks. And then like any good journalist, they unpacked that. That sounds more like an assessment than a specific, tangible threat with a decisive piece of intelligence. Well, the president didn't say there was a tangible. He didn't cite a specific piece of evidence. What he said is he probably he believed. Are you saying there wasn't one? I didn't see one with regard to four embassies. What I'm saying is I share the president's view that probably my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies.

All right. Embassies are the most prominent. They went from. So, my man, are there receipts there? Not that I've seen. But and then he tried to do the thing of being the homie and being like, but like, I get that he was stressed, that he might like that. He was hungry. He had a bad day.

Like, I get it it literally sounds like justifying the act like the actions of like a 10 year old kid you're just like well he kind of gets this way sometimes so i understand why that would be the reaction but i personally cannot account for right you're like no so this is again i mean that's that's an interesting split from the pentagon and the administration and a lot of people thought, well, is it possible that the president saw intelligence that our own defense secretary didn't? And most experts that I've seen and read who have written about it have said there's absolutely no way. If anything, the Pentagon would have seen things like more than Trump has. And then they'd pass that information along. So, again, this is the recklessness. And just a reminder of like the shitty, like the truly global,

like full scale global armed conflict levels of mistakes this president can make. This is where we're teetering on at the moment. But don't worry, because I just want to also share this interesting clip just to show you how Trump even looks at how our military operates and why we send troops and deploy them in certain places. He had an interview with Laura Ingraham, fine, fine turd, and basically like informed her that the army and our armed forces are basically now like like security for hire. And he was just talking about how like, oh, yeah, like theis the the koreans they've all they've all put money in our pockets we're sending more to saudi arabia and saudi arabia is paying us for it you know we're doing something that nobody's ever done i said to saudi arabia we have a very good relationship with saudi arabia said listen you're a very rich country you want more troops i'm going

to send them to you but you've got to pay us. They're paying us. They've already deposited $1 billion in the bank. We are going to help them, but these rich countries have to pay for it. South Korea gave us $500 million. They never gave us it. They gave us $500 million. I said, you've got to help us along we have 32 000 soldiers in south korea protecting you from north korea you've got to pay and they gave us 500 million dollars what the so right now it's like my man like what if we just left like you would get overran dude maybe you need to give us some money for that also like just are are are we running a mercenary operation now? I mean, we kind of are. I mean, it certainly sounds like it.

But out loud being like, okay, you put your billion dollar down payment on, and then we will put American lives at risk based on whatever you need them for. I mean, it's so bald-faced at this point, too, where, yeah, he's describing a business transaction that involves human lives but it is yeah

and some mobster shit basically yeah it's like how you would picture like a backroom deal to sound but it's just being like spoken in public

yeah I know it shows you how comfortable he gets with Fox like where he can just he'll just out loud articulate the transgressions that he's committing

yeah but in a way where he knows like they're not gonna question that. No one's going to push back on it. They'll be like, oh, thank you so much for letting us know. Thank you for honoring us, President.

Well, that's the crazy part of someone like him where it's like he's just done so much horrific stuff that there's like you're – once you've done all that, you're allowed to – it's like you – Yeah. You build the base of crazy over and over and over and bad and evil and then now it's like, oh, that's just – now we just assume that's what he is. So if he does anything outside of that, it would almost shock us. Yeah.

Yeah. That's why I keep telling ourselves this is not normal and it's horrifying. And all we can do is pray for a good outcome in November to try and right the ship. Because it's this is to me, this is like really the really frightening part because now we're talking about like just launching attacks willy-nilly without any consideration you're seeing the the fallout from that which was the jetliner from the ukrainian airliner getting shot down and the just unnecessary loss of life from anyway do you remember then he tweeted literally like all is well while it was happening? Yeah, with the rocket.

All is well. It's like to tweet all is well after like, yeah. Well, just because, yeah, there was the missile strikes that came out of Iran into Iraq were that no lives were lost. Not to mention, but you know, how terrifying that would be if you're like, hi, we have to get into a shelter now. Because like when you look at what happened to those buildings, if people were there, it would have been cash flow. Yeah, and it's like a complete lack of care for any Iranian lives. And it's just all, ugh, it's bad. So let's talk a little bit about November because that's sort of the only remedy we have at the moment. The only area for optimism at all. Well, considering McConnell is basically going to, sounds gonna sounds like at this point it's gonna be a sham trial um i'm not seeing much movement with him saying that they're going

to have witnesses suddenly yeah but that's still developing but i don't have much hope in that uh but bernie sanders is really been surging in the last few weeks i mean he's now gotten endorsements from like the sunrise Movement and Dream Defenders and really sort of solidifying the support from the progressive wing, the left wing of the party. And cool celebs. Cool celebs. Ariana Grande. Emily Radikowski.

That was a fun one. That was a fun one. Which one? Emily Radikowski endorsed Bernie. In what way? Just in a tweet? Titties? I don't know. Were they titties? I don't know. She had her breasts out? No, I think that maybe tits out for Bernie

is a good movement though. I do think that. Weren't you talking about that? Well, I was like, let's get some pasties and figure out what we can do. Right, right, right.

But yeah, Emily Ratajkowski, Ariana Grande, Cardi B, Lizzo, everyone's. I mean, yes. All the cool kids.

Please. The more people you can make aware, fantastic, of what needs to be done and people need to turn out in November. And it's great that the endorsements are coming now. I feel like sometimes celebrity endorsements come closer to the election and then there's enough time still to get it. Well, I think because it's really important that we try and have a nominee selected as early as possible. So to get that machine fully running versus the knife party that looks like is a brewing slightly because we're three weeks away from Iowa. You know, Bernie and Elizabeth Warren are basically in a statistical tie when you take in the margin of error. And I'm glad to see that those are the two people that are the front runners and not Biden and Buttigieg. Like we actually have people who, you know, to varying degrees have the same commitment to helping working people.

And now, you know, a lot of people thought Elizabeth Warren was going to be the recipient of a lot of these endorsements, too, because towards the end of last year, she was she was she looked like the one who was going to overtake Bernie, overtake Biden and be the nominee. And now things are very unpredictable. But now we're starting to see a little bit of, I don't know, not shade because this isn't like really very malignant or malicious in terms of what she's trying to say, because there was a leaked script from canvassers that came out from the Bernie Sanders campaign. She sort of described it as being trashed, like that she would tell that Bernie would, she was hurt that Bernie would have his volunteers trash her. But the script basically said that if they were voting for Warren or if they were interacting

with a Warren supporter, that it was something like, oh, that's great. She would be my second pick. I like her. But do you know that her base of support is very homogenous? It's like very much college educated, high income people. And she's not necessarily adding to the base of support, which is something that will be necessary going November. That was sort of the gist of it. And that was the trashing line.

Well, that's the thing. I'd seen that script before. And it feels like, I don't know. I mean, it's like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren for, it seems like a very long time, have had basically an agreement that it's like we're not going to trash each other in the way that politics normally would. But I don't know. I mean, it's like that didn't feel like it is factual information. I feel like it is factual information. Like it's not like the sort of like tear down TV ads of like Elizabeth Warren, toxic for the – like it's not that kind of – I almost see it as a positive like to be like, oh, yeah, I respect that choice.

That would be my second choice. It's not like it's saying like, oh, we would never even – Yeah, yeah, yeah. That feels like trash to me is when it's like, oh, God. It's like, no, she would be my second choice. It's like, you know. Well, I think any differentiation between the two candidates is going to be taken as an attack or whatever. And I'm sure there'll be plenty from both sides at a certain point doing that.

But, you know, when Bernie was asked about it, he was sort of like, I'm friends with her. And have you ever he's like, we have a huge we have a large national campaign of just a gigantic machine running. I don't know if that person, if I have people in field offices who are sending canvassers out with that script. He's like, that's personally not at my, that's definitely not in my direction. Right. And he's like, and I've never said a negative thing about her, like with my own words in a public statement. So he's like, why are we doing this? I could never be a politician.

I can't. Can you imagine? words in a public statement so he's like why are we doing this i could never be able to i can can you imagine i would be the worst anytime anyone said because i would i would be like that i would anytime anyone said anything i'd be like well they trashed me yeah i'm shattered as a very sensitive person who could never be in politics i'd be like ah what what i'm done for. CNN every other day like, oh my God. That was so mean. I don't get what I did. I'm not expanding the base. I don't even think that.

I'm so sorry. But I don't know. It seems to me like that was a bummer to happen. And this week there's already been this story that's come out of CNN that people on Twitter are freaking out about. The headline is Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win. Sources say whom star these sources. We do not know. these sources we do not know uh so i mean i i it doesn't seem that seems very out of character or out of context for to be reported by cnn but i think that like because uh bernie and warren have sort of been generally like not wanting to trash each other now there's just like media narratives coming out that's like just trying to pit them against each other anyways.

But that's just because like, you know, like people who are would would prefer for the Buttigieg's and Biden's of the world to be in power have a vested interest in turning these two progressives against each other. Yeah, there's and yeah, those people are shitting themselves. They're like, they're like, um, they hate Bernie, hate women like they're it's it's there. Like, um, they, she, Bernie hates women. Like there, it's, it's, there, there's a really good, um, Twitter thread that came out over the weekend from Patty Harrison, who is the best. Um, but she's basically just talking about like her, like her background of like growing up in a conservative family and just, uh, having the ability to be patient and talk to just literally different progressive people with different opinions. And instead of like the worst possible thing that can happen is for people who are really passionate about Bernie and people who are really passionate about Elizabeth Warren to like eat each other.

Yeah. And like we've seen this before to like I mean, there were definitely bigger political differences between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. So it just makes it all the more frustrating to watch like we're all basically on the same side here exactly and there are like minutiae things where it's like there are things I don't agree with about but it's like not enough to like attack totally someone who feels that way that's just like the most counterproductive we're letting the right win if we do that. And the candidates seem aware of that, so it's like...

And I kind of like to think the voter base does too. I feel like there's been a lot of Twitter, or at least on Twitter, it does feel like people are not turning on Bernie because they're not like, oh, Bernie. Everyone's seeing it. You never know though. It's all those people who might just take a headline as truth and not really explore that and then be like,

oh, okay. But when you even think, I mean, Bernie's campaign had a statement where they said, it's ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn't win.

It's sad that three weeks before the Iowa caucus in a year after that private conversation, staff who weren't in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course. After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by three million votes in 2016. So I don't know. Like, again, I think it's interesting to see.

don't know like again i think it's interesting to see we've already seen like a few weeks ago when it was clear bernie was starting to really bubble people going like well the medicare for all things gonna trump's gonna win because of that so i think we're gonna see more and more hits from the center uh trying to disrupt this like surge and progressive um and now that it seemed like the the media the or the ostensible media strategy of like leaving Bernie out of media coverage has failed and people have only become more passionate about it after realizing that. Now it's like the strategy is changing and like, OK, well, then if we have to talk about him, let's, you know, find our angles. I just made a fart noise with my mouth. Oh, sure. sure sure with your mouth yeah sure

and but there's also this other uh poll from the des moines register that was asking like what level of enthusiasm everyone had for their candidate yeah um and when it came to like you know are you enthusiastic uh extreme enthusiasm which was the most uh for buddha judge supporters 26 and also biden supporters 26 of their base said they have extreme enthusiasm. Warren, 32 percent for Sanders. It's 49 percent. Yeah. So there's a lot of that's what it feels.

But this is sort of what I think, you know, for people trying to pit these sides against each other, you do stir a little shit because, you know, campaigns do get a little, you know, people get they pick their sides. Totally. And I think that's really an attempt to exploit those sort of, not divisions, but difference in who their candidate is to ultimately make it toxic enough that they'd be like, well, if they get the nomination, you would never support them, right? Right.

And it's like, we see how that goes when people make that decision. It's, yeah, just be patient with each other, everybody. Unless you're like, unless you've got friends who are like, we're judging Biden. Yeah, don just be patient with each other everybody unless you're like unless you got friends who are like buddha judge and biden are yeah don't be smart and hot and then maybe get a little bit smart and hot are smart and hot but who's hotter biden or buddha judge i mean i buddha judge but like all right i'm just just want to take the temperature of the room i was thinking about people judge the other, not because I wanted to, but because Seth MacFarlane signed a $200 million deal with NBC. So I was just thinking about, I'm like, well, some of that money is going to go to Buttigieg. The Seth MacFarlane-Buttigieg triangle is my favorite thing.

He loves him so much. I don't think he, for the last couple of times where Pete Buttigieg has come up, Seth MacFarlane doesn't also come up. They're one and the same to me. They're best friends. They're in the wine caves together. Hey, good running mate. Buttigieg MacFarlane? I mean, now we're talking.

I think basically you're like the same man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now it's, yeah. Jesus. One thing I know that Bernie Sanders did say, he said he wouldn't have another old white man as his running mate. So you can count on that.

Good. Yeah. For people who support Bernie and support Warren, be patient and kind with each other. And we're all in the same boat here. Totally. Chill out. It's okay. The bottom line is if you support either, it's because you understand that there is a failure of this government to support the working people and just people who are not fantastically wealthy.

Yes. And I think that's the thing you have to keep your focus on. Because, again, when you have things like these, all these reports about like the Dow Jones was surging and 22 percent in 2019. Right. Unemployment is so low. It's like, who gives a fuck? Like, I don't know anybody who's like, oh, thank God the Dow's up. I'm like, now my child can have braces.

It's so true. The people who care about the Dow are a minority of people. No one I've ever met is benefiting from that news. We don't ever get to a show and we're like, hey, Jamie, great to see you, by the way. Did you see we're up some points today, baby.

When I open with the Dow joke. Oh, the crowd's on my Dow rips. We won't see the Dow today. Oh, yeah. I like to start off, let's just check the Dow really quick. You guys can see. Can you guys see? Fort Wayne, Indiana, losing their shit over the Dow.

And even like, and then when you look at it too, wages have only gone up 2.9%. Even after all those tax cuts when AT&T's like, oh yeah, this is going to be great for our employees. They're, they're already firing people and shifting jobs out of country. Yeah. This is why like. We only have one shoe factory left in Massachusetts. And it's for golf.

And it's for, and it's for all you rich fucks. It's, you know what, you know what? But this is, again, this is what I think people need to put into their mind's eye because of all these things that i'm sure on the right they're going to be like oh yeah well what about the dow and about this like you can even tell them are you benefiting from right right have your wages gone up are you are you in a place where you feel like very financially uh stable and not like within you know three bad incidences happening or maybe even one that you could completely turn life upside down for you. And I think that's the thing people, you know, let's keep that in our mind's eye.

Yeah, so everyone be good to each other. Hey, yeah. Yeah. And say hi to somebody. I've been trying to do that more. Say hi? Yeah, like when I walk by somebody on the street, if I catch eyes with them, sometimes people look away.

Sometimes I'm like, hey, how you doing? I love to say, yeah, I love to say hi. say hi do you i do yeah like because i walk a lot and i'm on the button like if there's a lot of opportunities what do you do how do you do hi you well so hey i have like a system where genuinely like when i'm walking to the bus stop near my house to come here like you i'll do that thing where i'll like see if we lock eyes the first time i'll look down and look back up and be like, hey. It feels less threatening that way. I don't want to just, like, lock eyes.

Hi. So I'll be, like, get the, I'll be like, okay, a consenting look. Hi, I like Zambonis. Hi, my name is. Holy shit. Hi, my name is Little Jimmy. You want to talk? Little Jimmy.

Your name's Jimmy. My name's, yeah. I like to open and close the loop. I don't... You know what I mean? If I'm going to do an interaction, I don't almost... I like to do a, hi, good morning. Keep going.

Yeah. I'm not looking for a... You know what I mean? Nice. Morning. Keep going. Yeah, just an acknowledgement. An acknowledgement.

Yeah. Yeah. I like that. It helps, you know? Makes everybody feel acknowledged. You're like, we're humans. Yeah. I feel like, especially LA, everyone has their head fucking down.

You're in your cars. It's nice to be seen. You in your cars it's nice to be seen so you're telling me so nice to be seen yeah and then when we were like yeah when we remember we're all like we're all just we're all in pain we're all hurting we're all on the same plane you know we're all like we're all human beings like I do think yeah there's something nice about acknowledging people on the street of like oh yeah you're like we're all a person yeah versus like yeah someone who I would just create a backstory about

as I walk by to not get them. But still do that, still do that after you say hi. Yo, wild man. My mother though, the queen of giving people backstories who she's never met.

Really? Like they're fucking, they have like full on three act arcs. Absolutely same. She's a, from, I think I mentioned this a while ago,

from a person she thought, someone was crying like in front of her house on a curb. And she thought the woman was really into the Twilight films. That is such a leap. Leaps and bounds. One giant leap for mom kind. Yes. All right.

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Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial

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And I love that word now. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And let's just really, just want to mention this Ritz Cracker competition thing. Because I like Ritz Crackers. I never buy them.

But when I interact with them, I'm like, how much fucking grease are in these things? That's the thing. And that's what I like about it. Like, if we compare just a Triscuit to a Ritz, I mean, Triscuit, you're gulping for water. Triscuit, yeah. Ritz, you got a drink and a food in the thing. That thing is wet with butter. Oh, yeah. You could like, you can

use it to like spy on people. Like you could just put it on the wall and it'll render like a visible hole through it from the grease. Like in that Simpsons episode where Homer's trying to gain all that weight. I had a co-worker in Boston years ago that I ended up making a series of maybe kind of mean cartoons

about him. But his whole thing was, his name is Nick, we're friends. So, okay. of mean cartoons about him but his whole his whole thing was his name was nick we're friends uh so okay okay so but what he his whole approach to socializing with us was he would have us rank things and having us rank crackers was his favorite thing and he had like a kind of a funny voice and he so we would be like standing behind the bar those working at bar and he he would just like we had nothing to say to each other. And then he'd be like, hey Jamie! Like, Triscuits. Ritz. What else was there? Like Merry Kiss Kill, but with

crackers in it. Saltines. Saltines. Rank them! And then I would just sit there and then I'd rank them and then put Triscuits last because I'm important. And he'd be like, no love for Triscuits. And that was his whole thing. And he'd write it down. He'd have you rank everything. He actually has a whole spreadsheet of data that he's been mining.

He's the best. He had a whole blog about reviewing turkey club sandwiches that he would get from like Subway, Macy's. Like he would get all sorts of- Macy's? There used to be somewhere in the Boston metro area. Yeah, like a cafe in the basement. That's very suburban. I hate these long ass posts like

the crispness on the Macy's turkey sub. Wow. That voice, you're killing it. He sort of speaks. He's a little curvy. I love that. I relate to that. Just a pure obsession with one thing and then dedicating a lot

of your life to it. I'm like, yeah, I could see myself falling down that hole. The singularity of that vision. These greasy crackers are just something else. So, okay, so there's a competition where – because my mom did cook with them a lot. Oh, yeah. They were – yeah. There is a Ritz Crushed Crackers Recipe Contest. Yes.

Okay? And there's – they have a culinary professional category where it's like you're a legit chef. And they also have one for culinary students. The grand prize winner was the pork you pie. What? Okay. So it comes from the chef and owner of a Tex-Mex restaurant in Chicago, Kim Dalton. This recipe, okay, it's a savory and sweet pork and cheddar mock apple pie.

Oh, no. With a crisp and buttery Ritz crumb topping. This is why I don't like fancy food. It's like, who wants that? I don't want an apple pie with pork in it. Yeah. I mean, I guess mock apple pie. Is that fancy?

I'm curious if it's, there's, I think it's maybe just a pork pie with cheese and maybe hints of other, I don't know. I don't know. It won. It must have been good. Yeah, I guess so. Don't knock it till you try it. Wow.

So, tepid, tepid response for that one. I'm like tepid. I mean, sometimes things that sound gross actually taste good, so I won't rule it out. There's been worse things. Right. That's what I'll say of this winning recipe. There's been worse things. There's been worse things. Yep.

I eat nasty stuff. I guess chicken pot pie. I'm like, already? That's a little gross to me. So then when you're like, oh, you're going to take an even grosser meat and slap it in there? I'm out. Good for Kim. Good for Kim.

Well, this is what Kim says. She says, it's really good. She was inspired. She would say that. Well, it was inspired by a vintage recipe she saw on the back of a Ritz crackers box. So it's like an old one, but she then sort of took some creative liberties with it. Okay, so pandering to Ritz. So I'm sorry.

Let me go again. It's really good. It's kind of a classic. Okay. I think that should end the debate right there. I do feel like if I described that meal to my grandparents, they'd lose their shit. Yeah, that's true. That does, like, as an old-timey recipe,

I think that would hit. Pork, you pie. What she also says is the Ritz crackers are, they're added instead of apples. Okay. That's what it is. So it's not like an apple pie. So it's more of a just in your mind keep pork and cheddar.

Okay. Both Ritz crackers. Right. Now it's a little bit. Now. And now we're talking. Now we're talking. Now, Kim, we're getting on a flight.

Okay. And in the culinary student category, the grand prize winner was a millefeuille. How do you say that shit? Yes, I know what it is. I just remember the movie Carpool with Tom Arnold. That's not spelled the way. And there's a moment where they spend three minutes. There's like a joke where they don't know how to say millefeuille.

Millefeuille. This is a very, what is French I'm guessing? It's two words and there's a hyphen involved. Doesn't it mean like a thousand layers or something? Millefeuille. Oh, yeah. This is a very French I'm guessing? It's two words and there's a hyphen involved. Doesn't it mean like a thousand layers or something? Yeah. Like that's what the meal M-I-L-L-E

like millenniums. Millimeters. Anyway, instead of the puff pastry for this, using Ritz crackers to serve as the pastry because it's like a very layered pastry dish.

Okay. This sounds good. And was a student of the Institute of Culinary Education in Pasadena. Okay. Let's drive over. And that just seems like it was a pretty straightforward recipe.

But hey, the students, they're getting it done too. I would have Fernando's dish in a second. Yes, I think there's... Because Kim, it's almost like flashy, flashy. We got pork. We got apples. It's a pie. It's old. She said, no, no, no. This is just a classic with Ritz. Classic with Ritz. Bye. Gotta go. it's almost like flashy flashy we got pork we got apples it's a pie it's old Fernanda Diallo she said no no no no

this is just a classic with Ritz classic with Ritz bye gotta go where's my grand prize money Kim Dalton I'll guess

Ritz nepotism wow she married into the Ritz fortune she married into definitely she's Mr. Ritz's niece her maiden name

Nabisco okay okay Kim Nabisco dude Kim Nabisco sounds like the weirdest villain is a great spy name, Nabisco. Okay. Okay, Kim Nabisco. Dude, Kim Nabisco sounds like the weirdest villain. Kim Nabisco is a great spy name. Kim Nabisco. I like one time as a joke for like three months at a place I was working, as my emergency

contact, I had the phone number for Nabisco. What if I had died? Was it an 800 number? Yeah. I'm surprised no one went like, hold on. No one's checking your emergency contact. Also though, like- They don't care if you live or die.

God forbid something happened and they called an abyssal and you just played the cruelest prank on yourself. And I just died. That is a funny way to die. Don't you think it's kind of- That is very funny. I don't know. It's super tragic, but kind of hilarious.

What is she allergic to? Okay, let's roll up our sleeves. Here we go. And talk about the Oscars, because the nominations were announced on Monday. And wow. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. The Joker, 11 nominations, okay?

A story of a white guy who literally paints his face even whiter. Has anyone actually, I haven't seen, I didn't have it in me to see it. Me neither. I haven't seen it. I'm sure it's fine.

I just don't, I don't know. Maybe it's bad. I'm sure Joaquin Phoenix is great. You know, he's a very compelling actor. He transforms.

He fell in love with that Scarlett Johansson computer. He fucked his phone in that movie. He fucked his phone. He fucked his phone in that movie.

We liked that for some reason. Yeah. Did he get nominated for that, didn't heansson computer he fucked his phone in that movie phone in that movie we liked that for some reason yeah did he get nominated for that didn't he i think he did get nominated for fucking his phone phone fucker was the name of the movie nominate this guy for all sorts of things he's very talented yeah i uh but but but at what like joker was nominated for everything and like no women and people of color were nominated. Except for Bong Joon. Yes, which is good. As director. That's it. For a lot of stuff, which is great. But yeah, everyone else where,

Cynthia Erivo was nominated and then- Right, yep. I think that was the only person of color nominated in any of the acting categories. I believe so. Meanwhile, to add insult to injury, Scarlett Johansson's nominated twice. Twice. So yeah, really- Also the, Scarlett Johansson's nominated twice. Twice.

So, yeah, really. Also the fact that Awkwafina literally won the Golden Globe. Yeah, and was snubbed. And wasn't even nominated. So, you know, Oscar's so white. Remember that hashtag? That was, what, five years ago, maybe? It was like 12, 13.

Was it five? Oh, my God. Yeah. And, you know, in response to that, the Academy was like, you know what? Huh to that the academy was like you know what didn't really even think about that one how white this shit is and they said you know they were they had they were announced unprecedented changes to its membership and voting rules because they want to make the membership and like voting just more diverse we were here we are five years later and

we've yet to see, of 20 acting nominations, yeah, Cynthia Erivo is the only person of color who's nominated. And there was like, and you always see like the horrible Twitter responses of like, well, were there performances there? And it's like, there were some,

Awkwafina literally won a Golden Globe. J-Lo. Yeah, J-Lo was nominated. People loved her in Hustlers. Yeah, Lupita in Us. And even though that's like a genre flick which typically but it's like yo she had a that performed Daniel Kaluuya was nominated

for Get Out like there's like there's a precedent for that but you want to nominate Scarlett Johansson twice twice that to me is actually the real fuck you that's a slap in the face yeah is it just like a room of people or is it a I don't even know how it feels like it's got to be a it a how i don't even know how it it feels

like it's got to be a contained uh do you have any insight into that i mean i know that the that um like people vote there's an increased but it's still like i i think that the percentage i was reading today was they were like well you know there's twice the amount of people of color in the academy there used to be but it still comes out to like 16 right and the academy was bragging about like well like there's almost one third of female nominees in this year's cat and you're like yeah that's not that's not parody you stupid ass like it's yeah i i was most annoyed i mean i like greta gerwig a lot and i think she like deserved a nomination but i wanted like lulu wang to get and like Farewell is so fucking good,

and just, that movie, like there was just a bunch of movies that were shut out entirely. Yeah. It's such a, I thought The Sandman should have gotten a nomination. I saw Little Women.

You saw Little Women? Over the break. What'd you think? I thought it was great. I thought, yeah, it's so good. I mean,

I'm glad that- Tim Chalamet, wow. Man. The boy, the boy can flutter and dance like a person from the 19th century. That boy is sharp, sharp, sharp looking. Yes.

He could just cut you. He could. He's got a sharp looking head. With his eyes, with his chin. Right? With his cheeks. Chin, oh, angular. He's dating Johnny Depp's daughter, right?

He is? Yeah. Who's Johnny Depp's daughter? I didn't know. Someone famous? Yeah, she's famous now. Is there anyone's kid who's not famous? Does someone's kid just work as a PA? Yeah. Who's Johnny Depp's daughter? I didn't know. Someone famous? Yeah, she's famous now. Is there anyone's kid who's not famous? Does someone's kid just work as a PA?

No, there's no one who's famous. Actually, I do know someone who's famous whose kid works as a PA. Really? Yeah. What'd they do? Nothing. They just got a good head on their shoulders. Oh, good for them.

Nepotism is so funny to me because if you don't think it's funny, you cry. Yeah, and it's weird like typically like in the Academy Awards period films like of Little Women would do well true yeah yeah and I don't understand like and

I remember seeing the one back in the day wasn't Renona Ryder and like the last one that came out which is pretty good which is good I got like way more into like the Greta Gerwig one was very accessible.

I feel like even for like younger people, like it was written in a way that didn't, I'm like, I don't know any Louisa May Alcott stuff. Yeah. But anyway. This was, yeah, this was such a bummer. And like the Academy is like, well, we let more women and people of color in.

So what's, and it's like the percentages are still so fucking low that it's like. Yeah. They didn't even nominate Beyonce in the song category. It doesn't make any sense. I mean, I don't know if the song was good. I didn't see anything about Lion King.

The original songs are always bad. That's the point. But now it's Diane Warren and Randy Newman like every fucking year. That's another thing I'm mad about too is that Universal. Mad about too. Mad about too on Spectrum Originals. Mad About 2. Mad About 2 on Spectrum Originals.

Spectrum Originals sounds like the worst. That's the thing. There's a Mad About You series on Spectrum Originals. Oh, wow. That was a cruel joke that came to haunt me in my real life. Okay, go on. Everyone's got a streaming service now. But they also, I lost all my bets. I did an uncut gem style bet on Cats sweeping the Oscars.

But Universal, they took, which is kind of funny, they took everything from Cats out of consideration. So it's not even a snub. Wait, wait, so. They would have gotten an original song nomination. I don't know why they did that. They were going to present it for consideration and then were like, actually, no, no, no.

Yeah, it was on there for a consideration website. And then after the first weekend of Cats and they made $6, they were like, actually, no, no, no. Yeah, it was on there for a consideration website and then after the first weekend of Cats and they made $6, they were like, never mind, and they just took everything. But it's like,

they had a Taylor Swift song that was like a C-minus. That could have gotten an Oscar nomination. In 2020, Taylor Swift's worst song could get a nomination.

because if Cats started getting nominations over some of these other films, it would have been dark days for those people in that film. Well, either way, the Elton John song is going to win. But it's just, ugh. And then I thought, I don't know.

Bombshell got a bunch, not a bunch, but Bombshell got some nods, and you're just like, oh, great, white feminism in the movie. It was interesting. Directed by Austin Powers. What? Oh, you're talking about the bombshell? Don't you feel like it just came out?

I'm like, I thought that, yeah. It feels like it came out yesterday. Very minimal marketing. Yeah, well, because it's not very good. Well, one thing, though, that was great was when John Cho and Issa Rae, again, add insult to injury, you have two people of color presenting the awards to...

Okay. When they announced the director's nominees, Issa Rae summed it up by she said, and congratulations to those men. I like it. Appropriate. I wish there was more that could have happened. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I don't know what it's going to take.

At this point, I'm just like, well, Parasite better win a big fucking award. Or what was the point of this year well it's also weird when like films get you know nominated for best picture and other things and then not best director I'm like you think there's a consistency about you'd imagine that if it's the best picture then the director must get some credit unless you're saying like the film is good director whatever it was really all about the script you're so true that's and like I don't always understand when people sort of get, I feel like they're sort of hand in hand. But look, everyone has their own way of looking at this whole filmmaking thing.

I don't. And it's weird. The winners from the other award shows leading up to this have kind of been all over the place. It's like the critics choice, which no one gives a shit about, but whatever. Zendaya had a good outfit. Did she? Yeah, she had a great.

She did. She looked like she was very cool. What's a good outfit? It was like a space plate. Hardened like plate. Zendaya had a good outfit. Did she? Yeah, she had a great What's a good outfit? It was like a space plate. Hardened like plate. Yeah, it was like hot pink. It was amazing. Did you ever have those dolls

when you were younger where you got to put like the jelly sort of thing? Yes, it was like that. It felt like a real life jelly shirt. What were those dolls called? What were they?

I don't know. But it was definitely like that. It's an amazing outfit. What is that, like a molded plate? Exactly. That's not like painted on. That's like a rigid piece.

That's like a Star Trek, like, okay, let me measure your exact breast size. Boink. I feel like they must have made it on her. Right. Because it's like, how do you? You just need to make a paper mache cast and then do something. It was great. Shout out to the Women's College Scripps at their cafe.

Her Majesty was a barista there, and all the baristas had to get breast molds that they put up in the cafe. Wait, that's so cool! Oh, that's the best. Arts. With the Critics' Choice Awards last night, or two nights ago Sam Mendes and Bong Joon-ho tied

for Best Director. There's a lot of different... I love a tie. And you'd think at Parasite with how well that film is being critically claimed, like none of the acting was good enough? People were like pulling for a supporting actor for the man who plays the dad in Parasite. And that didn't go through. Is that because of the foreign language?

Like is there some crossover there like where it would have? You have to think. But it made it in so many other huge categories and didn't get like pushed to like it was it's nominated for best international film but like it's true because screenplay roma had the same thing too where people are not hmm snubs on snubs i mean i think that's also the thing where it's like we have the the as time goes on and we see the lack of actual acknowledgement of a lot of these achievements we at a certain point we have to let these awards go too.

Because they're not actually a good indicator of what the best performances were. Truly, yeah. And that's where I guess we'll have to have a reckoning with our love of awards. I do like to get mad. Demi and DigiWeave had a great tweet about how much she likes to get mad at shit like this. And I do like to get mad about it. But I'm never going to watch The Irishman, so whatever. My first one, the first time I got so

pissed at the Academy Awards, I think it was 1998 or 99, when Saving Private Ryan, Steven Spielberg got Best Director, but then Shakespeare in Love was Best Picture. Oh, right. And that was a Weinstein grift. That was a fucking Weinstein grift. My little 14-year-old self, who was just hopped up up on war porn was just like, that's fucked up, man.

This movie's powerful. I hope that Laura Dern wins and then she makes more fun Baby Yoda jokes. That would sustain me. She went on Colbert and was like, Baby Yoda's my boyfriend. She's just upping the ante. It's fun. She's the best. Good for her.

Very diverse dating background. She's not with Baron Davis anymore, right? No, she's single right now. But people say that she's fucking the puppet. Okay. Well, okay. More power to you. More power to you.

Alyssa, thank you so much for coming by. Thanks for having me. It's been wonderful. What a joy. So fun. Yeah. Where can people find you, follow you, support you, consume your content, give you money? Yes.

All of those things at Alyssa Limp on Instagram and Twitter. Same thing. Come check it out. Amazing. Amazing character work. Thank you so much. I appreciate that a lot. Thanks for having me.

You're like one of the few feeds where I can be like, no, go follow now. Reliable. Yeah. Follow now. She doesn't miss. The woman has never missed. Never missed to the point where I thought I knew you. I don't know why. Not even in a weird way where I'm like,

oh yeah, that's the homie. I was just sort of like, yeah, Alyssa's coming by. And then I was like, wait, this is the first time. And is there a tweet that you like? You want to shout out a tweet? Anyone's tweet that you think is hilarious or poignant? My, where is is it let me find it my good friend may wilkerson so funny also and also a great follow at shut up may and she tweeted my dog and i both have anxiety so whenever i'm pacing my

apartment she follows me around like we're marching in a mental illness pride parade i love it I love the image of the two of them they're both so like tiny too so just the two of them like scooting around the apartment

pacing is very sweet that's the best yeah Jamie yes how about you you can find me on Twitter

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coming up in the next couple weeks in San Francisco. There's no more tickets to my show, but there are to the Bextel cast. In New York, tickets to the Bextel cast at the Bell House

on the 24th. And my solo show is almost sold out on February 10th. And in Philly, our Bextel cast shows are sold out, but you can come see me

do Boss with Miss Girl on February 8th. I think that that's everything. And I want to shout out a tweet that I was just talking about from Demi Adichiewebe at Electro Lemon. Complaining about the Oscar nominations is a grand tradition as old and fun as watching the Oscars themselves. I love it. They absolutely fucked it up. Can't wait to watch.

I'm going to be so fucking mad. Get fucking mad. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then he tweeted a clarification that he's serious hell yeah let's see

me you can find me at miles of gray on twitter and instagram also check out my new podcast with Sophia Alexandra

420 day fiance where we talk about 90 day fiance but like hi so you know that shit's wild it's also like a game show too so really tune into that

if you like the show and even if you don't chances are you're gonna like it um also we should say some tour dates because the daily zeitgeist we will be live uh on january 25th at the gateway theater in san francisco with uh guest demi adige we bay and michael swain uh on the 30th in portland at mississippi studios on Studios on February 12th Brooklyn, New York at the Bell House also that guest

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Chicago, Illinois, Sleeping Village, and the 28th of February, Toronto, Ontario, Internationale at the Great Hall. Love it. I'm looking forward to that. Just because the Great Hall, it can't be a disappointment. It must be fantastic. Now, it's a tweet I like. It's from Dana Donnelly, at Dana Donnelly.

Yay. It says, and this is perfect because we were just talking about The Office. It says, one time on a first date, a guy told me, you might just be the Asian Pam to my white gym. Like, okay, no.

Obviously, you're Michael Scott and I'm one of the waitresses from the Benihana Christmas episode. Damn. She's so funny. Kulop is one of those women in Christmas episode. Damn. She's so funny. Gulab is one of those women in that episode, too. Yes, I remember that. But it switches in the middle, if you notice, the waitresses change, the actresses change from the Benihana to the actual Dunder Mifflin office

because there was some kind of thing with the actress who was playing one of those servers. I didn't know that. I noticed, I don't see, I watched. Someone listens to Office, ladies. Someone watches so much goddamn Office, ladies. Someone watches so much goddamn Office. I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on. How did I not see that?

One of the, yeah, I felt like very achieved. Anyway, you can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page. We also have a website. Come on. Yeah, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our

episodes and our footnotes. Also, you know, look, let me tell you something else. The Daily Zeitgeist, it's a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeart, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get them things. And let's actually, now we have to think about what we're going to write.

What are we going to, how do we end such a wonderful episode? Oh, maybe... Is it a song? Yes. Can I pitch that we try to... Can we try to find one of... What's his name?

Oh, what's his name? I forgot already. Chris Gaines? Chris Gaines! Let's see if we can get a Chris Gaines hit. Oh, wow. You know, it's not often where something so organically is being determined in this room. This has been his first airplay in years.

This is huge. I don't know if you can find Chris Gaines on... Maybe he didn't even... Maybe it wasn't even he released songs as it. He just... Whoa, it's weird. At least on Spotify, Scrubbeth. Wow. What's going on, Big Garth?

Oh, no. He's got... There's one on YouTube Big Garth? Oh, no. Yeah, exactly. One of Garth Brooks really is. There's one on YouTube. Chris Gaines, Lost in You. Here we go. Do we have the... Oh, here. Well, that's...

Fuck it. Without even knowing what it is, we'll play a... I can't believe we're even going out on Chris Gaines. But Chris Gaines, Lost in You. For a sliver of a moment. All right. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Actually, we'll talk to you later today also because we've got the night guys going.

Anyway, see you then. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. I suppose. But there's something about you when you're around. Baby, I have found I get lost in you. What is this feeling? I've never known.

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