The Daily Zeitgeist - Oscars = Thirsty Uncle, Madison Cawthorn = Confederate Terminator 2.23.22

Episode Date: February 23, 2022

In episode 1090, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of Snack Time Lindsay Adams to discuss Trump’s Twitter clone a shit show, Speaking of losing…Madison Cawthorn very worried about sub...verting voters now, The Oscars’ “Fan Favorite” Category is Already A Dumpster Fire and more! Trump’s Twitter Clone A Shit Show Speaking of Losing…Madison Cawthorn Very Worried About Subverting Voters Now The Oscars’ “Fan Favorite” Category is Already A Dumpster Fire Oscars: Twitter’s Top Fan-Voted Film Will Be Recognized During Broadcast LISTEN: Body Movin (Feat. J. Rocc & Karriem Riggins) by J. Dilla Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
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Starting point is 00:01:36 making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 225, Episode 2 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio.
Starting point is 00:02:09 This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Wednesday, February 23rd, 2022, which of course means it is National Banana Bread Day. Oh, wow. Banana bread. Big fan when it has chocolate chips in it. Do you eat it without though? I mean, sure.
Starting point is 00:02:29 It feels like a little bit of waste of calories to me if you're not going to go full-fledged. Make it a dessert. I got you. I see you. I like just the way as if someone put it down in front of you and like, oh, there's no chocolate chips in it. And you're like, oh, is that a problem?
Starting point is 00:02:45 You're like, no, it's fine. You know. Whatever. Walnuts or whatever the fuck. Kind of a waste of everyone's time at this point. All right. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I see T's of green, black, A-E-U, orangeants And vowels too And I think to myself
Starting point is 00:03:06 Should I google this Wordle That is courtesy of Radio Georgio Once again Accusing me of cheating at Wordle Because I'm so good at it Also so good at Pasting a gif In after I post my Wordle score
Starting point is 00:03:24 Apparently I did the link thing and super producer has been shitting on me non-stop ever since that was hard for all of us jack when they're like it's just so much easier for me but the gif things built into twitter oh it is yeah but it's not on work when you're posting a is? But it's not on Wordle. When you're posting a Wordle score, it's not. Okay, look, that's why I don't fuck with Wordle. The thing you should be making fun of me for is posting my Wordle scores,
Starting point is 00:03:54 not my old man ass. But it's become so prevalent that then I have to put everyone down. Yeah. I just don't have the bandwidth for that. Well, I'm thrilled to be doing it. As always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, it's Miles Gray, still high off of a huge blunt of OG Kush and recent nuptials.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's Miles, a.k.a. Mr. Her Majesty Gray! It's so great to be Mr. Her Majesty. Comes with a lot of respect now So I appreciate that Shout out to my wife My wife Great Well
Starting point is 00:04:29 Great That's wonderful We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat By a brilliant and talented comedian Actor Dessert queen And podcaster Who you can hear on our podcast Snack Time
Starting point is 00:04:42 She co-hosts the comedy show Good Heroine and the Sunday Show with TDZ favorites Dave Ross and Ever Maynard, respectively. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Lindsay Adams! Lindsay! Welcome, welcome. The brilliant and talented, excuse me. Yeah, you're excused.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I mean, thank you. Where are you from? Where are you at right now? I'm in LA. Okay, okay. Yeah, I'm in LA, which explains why my landlord doesn't communicate. Right, in general. Yeah, in general, just doesn't. But yeah, I'm in LA. Got it, got it, got it. And before we got on air slash mic slash recording, you are originally from New Jersey?
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, I'm originally from New Jersey, moved to Chicago, started comedy there and then moved out here. Nice, nice, nice. You got a big, are you big like Jersey, like you hold it down for Jersey? Yeah, I love Jersey. I mean, I love and I hate Jersey. I will be brutally honest about, I mean, I worked at a tanning salon for years. Hey, okay. So, I really just. Huge. Then get more Jersey than that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:54 However, I mean, yeah, of course. I love it. I miss the food. Wait, what do you, okay, so. Any desserts in particular? Yeah. Yeah, like really good cannolis. Okay. Like really good cannolis. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Like really good cannolis. Also like the bakeries on the East Coast. Yeah. Maybe I just like pretend they're better in my brain. Right. But I do think they're better. Like what? Is there a specific thing?
Starting point is 00:06:21 You're like, see, this is why these LA bakeries suck shit. Is there a specific thing you're like, see, this is why these L.A. bakeries fucking suck shit. Well, in New York specifically, that Supermoon Bakehouse is my favorite place. I love that sequence of words. I know. It's very cool. They do a lot of filled croissants. Honestly, they're so dope.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And I'm not sponsored by them, to be really clear. I'm absolutely not. But I'm such a I'm not sponsored by them to be really clear. I'm absolutely not but I'm obsessed with them and I haven't found a place in LA that does like filled croissants. Have you ever been to Starbucks? They have this one with like a little chocolate in the middle. I worked at Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:06:59 They got ham and cheese in one of the croissants so don't tell me you don't know how to fill a croissant out here. No, I mean, I think it's either that or you go to like some newfangled like Michelin starred French baker place. And you're like, this fucking sandwich is $19 because of the bread it's on. You're like, are you talking about tartine? Yeah. And the other one that was at the Grove for a while.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Oh, that. Fuck, I can't remember the name. That they were doing like the croissant way or whatever. The croissant hybrid thing that they were serving up. The cronut. The cronut, yeah. Croissant way? I like that.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Croissant way is honestly better sounding. I say that whenever I get like a breakfast sandwich with the croissants as a bread. I say, I could get a croissant way, bro. That's better. All right. Lindsay, favorite thing to fill a croissant with and also your take on banana bread. Perfect question. I like a traditional almond croissant, but I like when there's a fruit filling.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I like like a raspberry or a strawberry filling of some sort and then i love banana bread it's classic am i completely cut off from the world like where i've only known a croissant to be filled with almond chocolate ham and cheese cheese and like some form of like a spinach kind of thing like don't in my mind when you said strawberry i was like where you get a one with fucking strawberry i know okay so yes that is not normal however it's better got it so like supermoon for example they just do wild shit like their instagram really cool, but then their food is actually really good. Okay. Supermoon, holler at us.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Send us some croissants from New York. Right. Please. We are not sponsored by them, but that's because Supermoon is fucking up, personally. I know. I'm like desperate. I just call them every day and I'm like, please. What's your podcast game like, Supermoon?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Send me free food. Oh, my God. You're not lying. This Instagram is like pornographic. Okay. It's crazy. And they do wild flavors. And it just like gets me hot and bothered.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Got it. I had to put the phone down. I know. Don't get a boner. Can't. Can't. Try not to. Medically.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Can't. Don't worry about that. Not a problem. Croissants are known for doing that. Yeah. Well a boner. Can't. Try not to. I can't. Don't worry about that. Not a problem. Croissants are known for doing that. Yeah. Well, tell that to my doctor. All right, Lindsay, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Later on in the episode, we're going to talk about Trump's Twitter clone, Truth Social. It launched. It has taken the world by storm. That's what we're all doing. That's what we're all using now. Oh, yeah. So we're going to talk about how just flawlessly that went. We're going to talk about Madison Cawthorn.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I was very worried about the sanctity of the vote for an authoritarian fascist. We're going to talk about the Oscars fan favorite category. They heard people complain that Spider-Man No Way Home didn't get nominated for enough things, and they put their heads together for, you know, I would guess five seconds and came up with the worst possible way to address that. So we'll talk about that. And we'll talk about celebrity shilling for crypto. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Lindsay, we'd like to ask our guest,
Starting point is 00:10:32 what is something from your search history? Oh, man. Yeah, the thing, it's funny because, like, I mean, I don't, obviously can't give, do you want me to give, like, a one-word answer? Or will you listen to me? No, we will listen to you. For some reason,
Starting point is 00:10:48 what Google always autofills mid-century table. So my, my search history is always like mid search of mid-century table for some reason. In reality, I think like the, the most recent thing that I searched was Italian food Los Angeles. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:09 It's always food. It's literally always food. I love that. Yeah. You've mentioned Italian food twice, which traditionally Italian food not known in America, at least for having the best desserts. I could be wrong about that. No, you're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:27 You're totally not. So tell me, are those separate interests of yours, Italian food and desserts? Or is where are we at? I think it's like a nostalgia thing. So it's like I technically prefer French pastries because I'm a fancy bitch. But I, yeah, for some reason, I mean, I like Italian food because it reminds me of growing up and like that mix of flavors. You know, it's like interesting how like in terms of food, sometimes it's hard to tell if you like it or you're just deeply emotionally attached to it right yep that's like taco bell i mean really i mean the more i think about i'm like it coincides with like some of the greatest moments of my life
Starting point is 00:12:18 like what oh man when you went to taco bell i mean i also not sponsored by taco bell but i i bore the fuck out of before she was my wife my fiance when we passed the taco bell i'd always remember the story about how i had a homie who worked at the drive-thru and when he was there i'd just be like yo and if he said yo back through the thing i was like it's we're eating free boys and that was like i felt like a fucking god like i i was like it's we're eating free boys and that was like i felt like a fucking god like i could be like yo you hungry like if my boys were gonna talk about let's go the dates they were speechless when that we got all these things we never ordered so like what what were the things that you oh like the like the caramel apple empanadas
Starting point is 00:13:02 yes like mexican pizzas i'd be like yo it's just me like yo let me just get a couple things Like the caramel apple empanadas. Yes. Like Mexican pizzas. I'd be like, yo, it's just me. Like, yo, let me just get a couple things. And then your boy, he just hooked it up with bags on bags. I'm like, do you like know the manager? I'm like, no. It's just people sticking up for each other. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:13:17 That was the voice of an impressed young woman in the car with you impressed by your access to Taco Bell. Yes. Yes. That's what i said the the bar was never lower for me hence the greatest time of my life that's a real that's like a real hookup for sure yeah yeah yeah but for me yeah i guess but the more i think about i'm like every time i eat it i do feel bad and like sometimes i'd be super high to like really go and get it but i still i still love the flavors interesting interesting take
Starting point is 00:13:47 so for you what is it for you is it what like going to like the feast of san janeiro and stuff all the time and like having that be part of like a social calendar no i it's literally snacks like i know it's i'm not i swear to god i'm not trying to promote my podcast, but like the emotional connection to like a good example is that when I was a kid, we would always get a Carvel ice cream cake for my birthday. And that was like the thing. And I like fucking loved it. And I was like the holy grail. And then this past summer, I was like, I'm an adult. You know, I can just have a Carvel ice cream cake whenever I want. Right. Because they sell it at the grocery store.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Right. So I was like, I'm going to buy one. And I bought like a huge one. And I started eating it. And I was like, this tastes like fucking ass. And I was so bummed. But I was like, I mean, I'm going to eat it. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:44 For the crunchies. but it sucks that it doesn't taste good yeah one of the few foods where you can like actually taste the chemicals in the food dye like i feel like when you got that like blue icing mixed in there there it has a very specific taste that i don't feel like you get anywhere else with anything that's edible, at least. No. I mean, I worked at Dunkin' Donuts, Baskin Robbins in high school for a minute. And I know I had a lot of jobs that I got fired from. And I worked there and their ice cream cakes are like actually pretty dope. And their ice cream cakes are like actually pretty dope.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah. 31 flavors is, you know, typically the one that would open my eyes. Carvel, I don't know. I felt like because you got at the grocery store, it just felt a little less like meaningful. I know. I called my mom and I was like, what the fuck, mom? I was like, literally not acceptable. Right. Oh, literally not acceptable. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Oh, and Italian food. Have you found anything in L.A.? Like, because obviously you're searching. You need it's a need of yours. What do you know? So how do you how do you scratch the itch here? You know, I've tried a couple different places. I have two friends that gave me gift certificates to, oh, God, Osteria La Buca. Yeah. I mean, and so they were like, you have to try this place because they know I like Italian food.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And so now I'm going to try it and we'll see. I mean, like, we'll find out. It's not bad. There's a funny story about that is that they, it was like started by these two brothers and their mom. And then they had a falling out. And then one of the brothers and the mom went down Melrose and started Asteria Mama. I tried that.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah. And that's the, that's the, and they all say like the, what you have here all comes from the mom who gave Asteria LaBuca all their flavors. So stop fucking with them. Come to Mama Direct. And like, it's just like a warring family situation between these two Italian restaurants. Controversial opinion.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Just because your mom made it doesn't mean she was a good cook. Okay, we're having to confront a lot of things right now. Yeah, I know. It's like your mom made it, blah, blah, blah. And it's like my mom burns shit every time she's like i'm not even just because it's like mom's recipe doesn't mean it's absolute trash right okay i like that yeah so that's my that's my take on that but oh chinese food dumplings from the East Coast, specifically. The way that they, like Chinese American, essentially.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Like 99% sure it's not authentic, but it's doughy as fuck. And like $4 on the street. I miss that. Yeah. What's something you think is overrated? I had a couple different things that I thought were overrated. I mean, I think that fast food is overrated.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I'm so sorry. I know you mentioned Taco Bell. I think it's overrated. I think it's pure nostalgia. I think that you can get better. Sorry, my cat is just really taking umbrage, but I think that you can get better stuff and i'm not a snob but i just i think it's overrated what do you what's your feeling like if you
Starting point is 00:18:14 what's your thought process you're hungry fast food is an option you go i can do better than that at one in the morning okay when we're not in York either. No, but like legit, we have 24-hour groceries, like grocery stores. And like I don't like you're like ready to come at me. My soul is leaving my body because I'm just thinking of me being so fucked up and needing to eat. And I'm like, yeah, I need to make, I need to go to the store and get some shit to eat. Okay, but I'm sober. So that makes a difference in my food choices. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:46 So it's like, if I'm coming home at 1 a.m., I'm like, I will not waste my time with fast food. I would rather, like, get a bag of chips and, like, some salami. Yeah. Okay. Ooh, good salami. I like loose lunch meat. What can I say? Yeah. No, no,ami. I like loose lunch meat. What can I say? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:05 No, no, I can't hate on that. What percentage of fast food in America do we think is consumed by somebody who is not under the influence of something? Like if there was suddenly all out 100% across the board prohibition of all substances, what would happen to fast food sales? I would eat more fast food if I couldn't smoke weed. Really? You think so? I'd be like, let's just kill ourselves a different way then. Let's injure ourselves a different way.
Starting point is 00:19:36 It's all about destruction. If I can't create, then the second best thing is destroying. I don't know. I feel like late at night there would be less fights uh at fast food places that's for sure that's like a nailed on event like a saturday night jack in the box there's always there'll be some trouble jack the box feels like they have embraced the uh fucked upness of their consumers more than maybe any other brand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I mean, they're just like, we're literally silly. Like, we're silly. Right. And please don't take us seriously. Just eat the food because it'll be fine. Have our late night munchies box with like 19 tacos and cheese fries, please. We know what you're up to. Exactly. Just get home safely.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I just saw a Jack in the Box ad for the first time. So it was for, it was back in, like, the early 90s when they were bringing on a Philly cheesesteak and they, like, sent this button-down, like, nerdy guy to go look up, like, how to make the best Philly cheesesteak. And he comes back and the jack in the box mascot is like walking down and the guy like is no longer buttoned up he has like a mullet and he's like yo jackie oh right i had never seen that but that's what all my cousins in philly call
Starting point is 00:21:00 me they're like oh jackie what's up are Are you from Philly? My whole family is, but I never lived there. I didn't realize that was a universal thing. I thought it was just because they've known me since I was three. That's so funny. Just had a moment where you're like, I know this voice.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I know that man. Me? You're watching this TV and you're pointing at yourself. Lindsay, what is something you think is underrated? I know that man Me? Like you're watching this TV and you're pointing at yourself Me? Lindsay what is something you think is underrated? Black licorice Wow I know Another controversial opinion
Starting point is 00:21:35 I know I know Okay go on I want to help open my eyes Because they have been closed for too long. So if I'm being a bitch, it's that molasses is an elevated taste that only adults will understand. So if you don't like it, you're not a real adult. But the reality is that I get why people think it tastes like ass.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And just to be clear, when I was not sober, I was drinking bottles of Robitussin. So I don't know if that correlates to my enjoyment of that flavor. Right. But I just like it. It's weird and gooey. And like,
Starting point is 00:22:20 I don't know why the flavor works for me, but it does. I'm like a molasses fan. Is it because the DXM fried your taste buds or something from all the robo trips? Exactly. Exactly. That also describes my personality as a piece of trash. But like, it's, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I like it. My mom liked it growing up. And like, she would always be like, give me the black jelly beans. And I was was like this is disgusting you're disgusting and now i'm like i love it it's gross and great and i am like an evangelist for it right yeah interesting i mean you're not alone obviously yeah no you're not the first person to say that i'm not alone but it's actually in large quantities toxic and could kill you. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And I think they did that on purpose just because they're like, anybody who likes it this much, we need to take them out. Exactly. Too much. Yeah. It's like it feels like it's almost like cilantro, right? Where like. Yeah, I think so. People like fucking love it or they hate it.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Yeah. And like that anise anise flavor anise i could i could tell i could yes it's pronounced anise anise uh or anisa from uh the challenge mtv the challenge i'm just also thinking of like i like fennel you know what i mean so it's weird how there's like like on this like sort of they're close to each other on this like flavor spectrum but once you cross fully over that part like oh god like fine i'll do it because i've never had absinthe before but it's just for the story that i'll i'll take this flavor but i don't know like i'm curious if there's like if people are genetically predisposed to not liking that flavor well that's
Starting point is 00:23:58 what i feel like but at the same time i don't like the little seeds in sausage. Right. Really? Yeah. Like those fennel seeds? Yeah, I think they ruin sausage. As a texture more than a flavor, right? Well, a little bit of both. Just because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:16 My tastes don't make sense. It's not like it carries over. But my sweet and savory receptors are very different. Right, right, right. Yeah. Zeitgang, let us know what are, because I've heard the same thing about coffee. Obviously, like you said, cilantro. I have heard that about licorice.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Like what are the other genetically predetermined like flavor profiles that we just can't escape? Yeah. Although I've definitely like gone in and out on coffee. i don't know if i buy that's really i didn't know coffee was a controversial line yeah like people get like disgusted by it yeah yeah yeah like don't like the smell of it there's but i think that's definitely a smaller grouping And I also think like to the to the point about robo tripping being like locked into the pathways in your brain connected to licorice. I think coffee being locked into the pathways where you're just getting a massive wallop of caffeine probably helps. Right. Sure. Absolutely. where you're just getting a massive wallop of caffeine probably helps, right? Sure.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Absolutely. I recently switched to matcha, which I love to talk about. Oh, did you really switch? No, I hate matcha. I know. But are you getting all the benefits that everyone was saying? You feel less like you're flying at light speed? I felt like I had the flu for a couple weeks after I made the switch. So that was good.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Put me in my place. But I definitely noticed that I went from thinking it smelled and tasted like shit to now really liking it. And I think that's probably a similar thing. Whereas if I went back to coffee, it would be same deal. Interesting. Yeah. That should have been my overrated because I just think it's, I literally have to pull over on the side of the road and throw up because I gave matcha another chance.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Yeah. Wow. We need to begin to map out people's flavor preferences because it feels like, whereas I hate licorice, I love matcha. Yeah. I'm just like trying to map everything. I'm like, where does it all come together? What color are your eyes? So you're going to start putting phenotypes and stuff. Blue, green. Okay. Yeah. Geneticist holler at us. Yeah, exactly. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. A quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:30:39 This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I mean, it's all anyone could talk about. Truth Social has launched and, you know, changed the meaning of social media and truth absolutely yeah yeah so this is trump's twitter platform that he's like i don't i don't need to play with your ball i'm i have my own ball at home like my own shitty ball that doesn't even
Starting point is 00:31:18 work as a ball you're like that's made of socks man you didn't even clean the socks it looks like a giant dong, too. It's a ball. It's a ball, and I don't need yours. That's a good impression, though. Many people say that LeBron plays with this kind of ball. That's how he learned to play. So he launched True Social.
Starting point is 00:31:37 He had to do it on President's Day because he is our past and future president in his mind. And it wasn't ready. shocking who'd have thought uh and you know what it went as bad as anybody could have hoped for to be honest like there's all this fanfare president's day he's back with his own shitty twitter unfortunately if you have android you're shit out of luck and also you can only get it in the App Store if you like pre downloaded the app, because that's how much of a fanatic you are for all things MAGA, or probably most of them are probably journalists who are like, just ready to be like, yep, ready to see how this thing falls apart. So let's say even then you got to the point where you were able to download the app.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Oh, you try and register an account, you get an error message that says something went wrong. Maybe retry later. Some people did for hours on end. So then even if you got, if you're one of the rare people who got to the point where they could register an account, you still couldn't use the app. Like it didn't even take you to the interface. It just basically said, you got another message that said, quote, due to massive massive demand we have placed you on our wait list we love you and you are not just another number to us but your wait list number is below and people did a screen cap it was like 155 683 like that's and people were like this is great all the patriots are overwhelming the system it's like no no this is called a disastrous
Starting point is 00:33:04 fucking launch that's not enough patriots to overwhelm a system by the system. It's like, no, no, no. This is called a disastrous fucking launch. That's not enough patriots to overwhelm a system, by the way. 150,000 is like your system should be able to handle that. It is too many. It's too many. Too many and yet not enough for that to be an excuse for why your product doesn't work. Right. And some people notice like when they had their, you know, number, even though Trump said, we love you and you're not just another number.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I'll remember your name, Donald Jr. That those people, they've slid further down the list as time went on. They're like, how is that possible? Like, I thought my place in line was fixed. I'm somehow I've gone back 10,000 spots. Oh, wait. They were giving them new numbers as it went along. They would check back and the number would update to something worse than it was before.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Oh my God. They're like, this is so fucking bad. No one could use it. A lot of people just were pointing out all these security weaknesses. You could navigate to this beta version of the site and just register your own handles before anyone else could to try and park them. And they're like no this is this is all bad the other sad part about this is there's no web version of this so you know like on twitter you can go to twitter.com there isn't shit like this for truth like you can only do it in the
Starting point is 00:34:18 fucking app so effectively this shit was completely lights out darkness where did he find these developers though you know what i like he was like i think like truly i feel like his kids did it they were like we can literally do anything we've never had a job that's real and we can absolutely code this website they're like dad we're professionals at copying other people's work that's how we got out of school so exactly this is right up my lane dad let me do like a couple fucking bumps really quick in the kitchen and i'll come back and i'll have a fucking totally new fucking plan okay dad yeah i love the idea though of there being like a liberal behind it who was infiltrating and was like get this going to work. Right. Or just really playing dumb the whole time.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Like, I don't know, Mr. It is. It's it's I swear I had everything double checked, triple checked, just like you had said. Sure. Maybe if you pay me more money and then just collect all that money from him and light it on fire. Right. Well, the thing that most people point out is that, you know, Devin Nunes, the disgraced congressman who was, you know, the head of the Intelligence Committee during Trump's first reign. He's technically in charge of this venture because he left to run like to become like the CEO or CEO of like Trump Media Group Strategies or whatever the convoluted name is.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And when he was asked about this, his defense was it's really not going to be ready until like the end of March. What? Then why? Okay. See you later. Oh, also the logo is an exact ripoff of another company in the UK. So they're already having to backpedal on their marketing shit. I mean, he, you know, we've talked before about this theory that like famous people kind of tend to be frozen in time at a point that they like reached their peak fame. And obviously he has kind of gotten increasingly famous as he became like the modern world's Hitler.
Starting point is 00:36:18 But he first peaked in the 80s. And I just feel like there is he he everything around him seems to be like dumb people on cocaine just driving the bus right everywhere like that that really feels oh like it's just a group of 80s like 80s coked out henchmen with bad ideas is the only group he can look at and be like they get it they. And everybody, like, he turns people into, like, you know, his son used to be somebody who, like, just hated his dad. And, you know, just through sheer tyranny of will and, like, his force of personality and then the fact that he was accidentally became the most powerful person in the world. accidentally became the most powerful person in the world like that like sucked in his son and now his son's this like coked up like just absolute 80s super villain he's like litmus test to hire someone is he puts him he's like you're gonna sit down in this theater and you're gonna i'm gonna
Starting point is 00:37:16 put something on and just watch a little bit of it and i'll come back and we'll talk about what you just saw and he puts on soul man from 1986 and he's looking through a camera like they love it okay good this guy's good this guy's good he thinks this is hilarious he's in baby i can't believe that like nothing has taken him down like like so many grandpas are sick i mean is that too dark but it's like how is this man not died i just so many grandpas are sick i mean i don't know what to say there's so many i mean i'm just relating ages but it's like him mitch mcconnell it's like how are these men still fucking alive right why did they why did you take my grandpa god yeah and leave these shit bags fucking blowing in the wind.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Why are the wrong people died? And we all agree on that. I mean, yeah, maybe I think the the only thing that people have to potentially, you know, lick their lips and rub their mitts together for a little bit of warmth is just all the lawsuits that keep completely backfiring. Like every attempt at appealing is just like, no, no, you ain't claiming privilege over nothing. Exactly. But then again, we won't know till we know, will we? No, I trust nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah, I had that down here. I don't know if you guys talked about the, you know, his attempt to get everything no dismissed or there were so many last week the things he took multiple l's last week but no not this recent one we haven't spoken yeah now so the very final thing it had been rejected by everybody and he got it elevated to the supreme court and they kind of rejected it so now we will find out you know the or at least the house committee is going to get get all the documents and i do feel like this could be the most significant challenge to him becoming president again in 2024 is if like a crime is revealed and he's basically not allowed
Starting point is 00:39:21 to run because i think other signs are pointing to him being able to bounce back. Well, I think that's why it's interesting to see like other MAGA affiliate types who are like kind of puffing their chest up and like kind of waiting. Like Ron DeSantis would be like, yo, the second this dude slips up, I'm fucking, I'm in there. Like I'm taking it up. And like there's already more and more stories about like how you know trump is increasingly not like liking how you know
Starting point is 00:39:52 desantis is ascending uh so quickly but yeah i mean that also speaks to like why i'm sure some people uh in the republican party were kind of saying like no that was an insurrection that was an insurrection suddenly that maybe they know like the last stop is the documents are going to come out. It'll be a pretty, it'll be pretty clear like why it shouldn't work. But I don't know. It's been pretty clear why a lot of things
Starting point is 00:40:16 shouldn't work in this country yet. We don't have many changes. So I don't know. Stay tuned. By the way, speaking of January 6th, the most 80s shit I've ever seen outside of a video of the actual 1980s is the backstage video of Trump and his family dancing to Gloria as the insurrection is beginning. That Gloria song. There's just such powerful cocaine energy in that video.
Starting point is 00:40:43 It's unbelievable. powerful like cocaine energy in that video it's unbelievable kimberly guilfoyle especially is just like dancing like an extra in the club scene in scarface oh my god 100 her jaw is about to fly off her face exactly that was exactly my thought yeah it's like what are you are y'all chewing on something babe are you okay because you look yeah, yeah. I'm fine. Just have a bad tell. Have a real bad tell. I could see her dipping secretly. They are dipping.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Oh, yeah. I do cocaine pouches now. I just put them right there. They're like snus. I didn't understand. That was how I've always done it. I'll never change. Straight into your gums.
Starting point is 00:41:21 That's weird. Over time, it's actually much better yeah and you don't have the sniffles in front of everyone you still fart though yeah but yeah i think speaking of 80s bad guys madison cawthorne who has been the rights to shiny little poster boy they love him he's the fascist with bad fashion sense but for conservatives it's fantastic the white supremacist with gleaming white teeth you love to see him up there wearing his like hunting jacket on the Capitol, like we're right before he rah-rahed a bunch of insurrectionists to march on the Capitol, literally wearing a hunting jacket. I'm like, okay, I think we get what you're trying to do because there are multiple garments you could wear. But in this instance, you're putting on that hunter vibe. There are multiple garments you could wear, but in this instance, you're putting on that hunter vibe. And yeah, this guy has been, you know, in the news for a number of things. We touched on his like weird sham marriage that was arranged in the weirdest way when he met his wife.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Was it like in a Russian casino? And then they very quickly split up. But he still has the gall to say, like, you know, we have to worry about the integrity of the American family or mayor's sanctity of mayors like you couldn't even go eight months. Don't. OK. All that to say that his rah-rah rhetoric on January 6th has now gotten him into a little bit of trouble because a group of voters in North Carolina are using this pesky little thing in the 14th Amendment to remind the elections board in North Carolina that they actually have the they can assert the power to keep him from running from office again, because this little clause in the 14th Amendment bars anyone, quote, that has engaged in insurrection or rebellion. It prohibits them from entering elected office. Yeah, he says he's being unfairly targeted and it's just the thousands of hundreds of thousands of voters are going to have their just votes completely negated good fuck you the
Starting point is 00:43:14 irony of suddenly you're up there being like this election stolen because this guy didn't win that leading you to well if if they enforce the rules then they're gonna negate the will of the voters right tucker carlson body yeah and the his loophole that he wants to like get is that well they gave confederates amnesty after the civil war which first of all big mistake that they did do that but second of all that was in 1872 was centered around the civil war and like a massive population and not like a single person who's opportunistically trying to like seize power after trying to overthrow the government yeah badly like that's it that's the thing that i just keep coming up against is like they they did like their
Starting point is 00:44:12 intention was as bad as anything has ever claimed they just it was not a real threat because they they were bad at it but like that that doesn't mean we should just disregard their intention right right i mean yeah if only like i knew people who didn't get like shoplifting charges for very awkwardly trying to leave a store with like handles of bacardi right they're like oh come on kids you really thought you were gonna just wear a big old boxy coat in here and walk like waddle on out of here ah you poor you little scamps get out of here no they fucking got wrecked like legally i remember but you know that's uh you know that's that like you said we made the mistake in 1872 of being like you know what nice try you lost and also so many people fucking died over you insisting that slavery was the only financial system you
Starting point is 00:45:04 wanted to operate with it so all good all good we don't want to we don't want to ruffle any more feathers and i like that his idea or the way his lawyer asserts this like you know like this amnesty thing with confederates is like this wasn't like like you said it was for the civil war it's not some like reverse john connor where confederates like went into the future to create a bill to like excuse a future insurrection but that's how they're looking at it i guess right that that is such a big turning point in history that like lincoln being assassinated led to his racist ass vice president taking over the presidency and just being like no harm no foul y'all we're good no harm hey they had us in the fourth quarter there yeah absolutely no harm harmless yeah
Starting point is 00:45:54 all good exactly that's wild you know it's like anything when you're trying to boundary set in relationship pet training whatever when he says when there are none you're gonna then be shocked down the road when it's like but i told you i didn't like that it's like yeah but you didn't really make that like clear in a tangible sense so that we're completely incentivized to keep doing what we want to do right yeah i mean i think there's a direct line to from what you know that decision to pardon everybody in the civil war to what we are still dealing with today yeah and also like treating the grievances of like the hurt south after the civil war being like we got oh man they're really they're really aching after that they're having a
Starting point is 00:46:38 hard time they had a hard time and guess what they're still having a hard time yeah yeah yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about dumber shit. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine.
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Starting point is 00:50:10 These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. I should clarify, the Oscars are not dumber than madison cawthorne they're just probably less impactful let's say less impactful okay all right the oscars very dumb so the nominees came out and everybody was mad that spider-man No Way Home not nominated. Jimmy Kimmel, famed film expert and cinephile, Jimmy Kimmel, dropped a statement on
Starting point is 00:51:29 their ass. The biggest snub today in my opinion, and I'm actually even angry about this, I'm kind of embarrassed to say, is the unforgivable omission of Spider-Man No Way Home. So, the Oscars are listening. You know, Kimmel hosted the Oscars. Kimmel speaks, they listen.
Starting point is 00:51:46 That's right. Exactly. This story weirdly reminds me of like how progressive ideas are treated by the Democratic Party, where they will allow them to succeed to the point of getting passed, but then they will just completely fuck with the execution to the point that they're like, well, that didn't work. Because you fucking meddled with it. Right. You did a
Starting point is 00:52:16 half-assed job and meddled with it. So anyways, last week the Oscars made an announcement targeted at regaining some of their cultural relevance in the favor of Jimmy Kimmel, saying that they would have a fan favorite category. Yes, this year. Not to make it seem like an afterthought, but yeah, the nominees they've already announced. Also, let's add a little asterisk.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Also, you can vote for your favorite movie on Twitter. No. And the winning film would be announced on the show. They would not receive an actual Oscar, but maybe the Oscar producers can try to buy an old Blockbuster Entertainment Awards trophy off of eBay and hand that out. Like a moon man, if you can score one of those.
Starting point is 00:53:03 But yeah, it's so half-assed. It's guaranteed to produce a bad result. Well, have they been on Twitter? Have they ever been on Twitter? That is my question. It does not seem like they have. So the second they opened up voting, know that zack snyder fans wanted the snyder cut out there as the number one movie unfortunately that is an old movie
Starting point is 00:53:34 so director's cuts of old movies aren't eligible for the academy awards and so van fans started voting instead for army of the dead which did come out in 2021. That's the Vegas zombie movie slash video game playthrough. And he encouraged it. He was like, yeah, no, that deserves to be Oscar nominated. Great. But the number one slot at the moment is the Cinderella musical starring Camila Cabello, which makes sense because she has a huge following on Twitter. The power of Gen Z.
Starting point is 00:54:11 That is the power of Gen Z. Yeah. Just put like BTS in your film and just sweep the awards every year. You know? Yeah. For five seconds. I mean, that looked like the most ass musical i've ever seen you know be sick though is you get like you pit swifties bts army all the fandoms together because they're
Starting point is 00:54:34 all in like if the studios are like on some fucking galaxy brain shit to like we need to put these fans like they need to have parts in films this next year so we can implode this category or that's just my very puckish idea of like i want to see them fight no that's a smart idea that is how the world works now right exactly but this is worse than doing nothing right like if you're not willing to take it seriously enough to have the Academy members vote on like best popular. Like this is an idea we had suggested as like at a separate category for. So you have like best film and best movie. And like it can be a straight down the middle, you know, like a movie like The Fugitive could have won best movie of the year.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Well, you know, you still have your best films that make Academy nominees feel like they're honoring the art. But this is instead just fucking punting it to people on Twitter who don't even go see the movies that they get excited about.
Starting point is 00:55:39 They're the ones who made Hollywood Studios put tons of money and marketing and two snakes on a plane. And then nobody went and saw it. I mean, I wish the government would be as receptive to upset over the voting process that that the Oscars were when we're like, this is not fair. And they're like, OK, great. We're just going to scratch let's let it be chaos what's because their version of advertisers works differently than an award show that needs to have
Starting point is 00:56:11 eyeballs to get it whereas there's like yeah yeah we're completely fine off with all the lobbying money that floods into the coffers of congress to make stuff happen so yeah i mean we don't really need to care about anything because As long as the corporations are happy, then we're good. Then we're good. Right. Totally good. This is how the NBA nominates all-star starters, right? So, like, it's not totally fucked, you would think.
Starting point is 00:56:37 But I guess movies, for whatever reason, like, movies overlap with... movies overlap with because it's not like they've nominated like players who have no right being an all-star game have they maybe they have i should just like oh like who's a meme all-star pick i don't know yeah i i don't i typically don't find myself being like okay they're really like they got brian scalabrini in there okay Like, I don't think there's been anything like that. I think probably because they're, like you said, they hear an idea and then they do it in the worst fucking way possible by just being like, all right, then let Twitter decide. Like, that isn't a place where people are going to, like, everyone there is already, you know, very, like, turnt up on whatever they're into. Versus, like, if you had a website versus like having a website where you go to like Oscar fan favorite and you have a very like structured voting mechanism because there you can. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:44 That's why I just feel like they're like you said, they're trying to like do it in the worst possible way to then also be like, see, and this is why we don't even do it. I mean, people don't even know what the fuck they're talking about. Absolutely. That's absolutely what they're doing. Also in the running is a movie I hadn't even heard of prior to this, uh, Minamata, which is, uh,
Starting point is 00:57:57 has Johnny Depp in it. And people are like the, the depth stands are out here trying to get him you know finally some recognition for his action career hashtag let's do it for johnny yeah okay what the fuck is the movie even about do we even know don't i just looked it up and it's a 2020 drama film so first of all we got the wrong year based on the book of the same name, stars Johnny Depp. I don't think the people,
Starting point is 00:58:29 like based on Eugene Smith, an American photographer who documented the effects of mercury poisoning on the citizens of Japan. Wait, what is he doing in Japan? It's a white savior. It's a fucking Japanese white savior it's like last samurai except this dude got a camera yeah i'm glad it got buried but also who is rooting for it like i want to meet
Starting point is 00:58:52 these people the death heads the death heads yeah i'm curious now now i is that him with this makeup on? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. I don't... What is wrong with people? His hair looks wild in this. Oh, it's because he has a bandage on, on his forehead. I was like,
Starting point is 00:59:14 this guy's got the worst toupee on, but it's one of those things where the bandage was bluffing up his hair on the front. All right, Minamata. Well, cool.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Let's do it for Johnny, huh? One of the votes for the film was accompanied by a photo of johnny depp posing with a guitar so like it's pretty unclear that anybody who's voting for this movie has actually seen it right right yeah so well mainly we're here for johnny depp's music career like that that's one thing TDZ can get behind. We are huge fans of Johnny Depp, the rock star. Right. I mean, how could they have done... Like, I'm really trying to think of how you make it work in a way that we wouldn't absolutely shit on it out the gate. Like, is it that you need a neutral third party venue to facilitate the voting
Starting point is 01:00:07 do people go to like their local theater and fill out a fucking ballot like used to at mcdonald's for the all-star game like what how could you even do this oh i think you need the academy to vote on it like i think the academy votes on a separate category that is popular film. You either give it a cutoff of how many people saw it, or it's just kind of treated as a different thing based on
Starting point is 01:00:36 plot structure and how wide the release of the movie was. Or do you create some kind of fucked up metric that's like a combination of box office you know write-ups whatever that like you could measure the impact and be like we don't even have to vote like the the numbers are there this was this is the movie yeah yeah i mean i think i think all the all those things are are worth looking at but throwing it
Starting point is 01:01:03 to a twitter poll, probably not. Or I think our problem is we're trying to save something that just needs to fucking die. Yeah. I'm on board with that. Yeah. Like, I just don't think, like, awards, people have gotten more and more, like, put off and salty around the results of award shows. Like, understandably, because at a certain point, like, you use this, like, winning a Grammy or an Oscar to be, like, the absolute height of a given industry.
Starting point is 01:01:30 But when the sort of powers that be are completely unable to, like, acknowledge the evolution within an industry, then you're like, you're only good at, you were actually only good at picking out movies for, like, 40 years. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Now we need something different the the oscars last year were viewed by 9.23 million viewers which still seems like a lot to me based on like how many people saw any of the movies that were that's less people than watched kat valdez and bastian get married in the J-Lo Owen Wilson flick. Marry me. They had 20 million on the stream. Right. Yeah. No, that's a good touch.
Starting point is 01:02:13 That's a good specific touchstone that I think everybody relates to. Marry me. Yeah. Marry me. I watched it. I couldn't believe what I was doing. I watched it too. What?
Starting point is 01:02:24 Yeah. I had to. I'm so excited everybody on twitter was like yo i don't understand like what are we doing watching this i'm like i that's all i needed to hear i'm like if someone's like what are we doing i'm like i need to see what we're doing because i want to know my husband and i watched it which shocked me because he has like such strong taste in movies and i was obviously hyped because like they know what they're doing they marketed it to people like me like i am the target market so it's like i'm obviously gonna go see it but i'm not a dummy this movie sucks right right right
Starting point is 01:02:59 i mean that trailer i was like sure right yeah The funny part is it's based on a graphic novel. Yeah. I saw that in the credits, too. We were like, I'm sorry, what is this graphic novel? It literally blew my mind. Because in my head, J-Lo was just like, I want to do a movie. Let's do Owen Wilson. And it's going to be me singing.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And the studios were like,'ll sell yeah but like there was a somebody wrote a graphic novel bless it i mean jack i mean maluma too i mean as bastian it was groundbreaking i mean they knew like if you like like any kind of like like latin, you like Colombian music, like reggaeton, any of that. They're like, we're going to put these icons together and just watch them not be great at acting. Although, you know, Maluma, I'm not mad at his acting as Bastian. Yeah, I agree. I wasn't, like, completely turned off. How's Owen Wilson holding up?
Starting point is 01:04:05 A man. I mean holding up? A man. I mean, yeah. A man. Yeah. I was having a discussion and people were like, that's a wig, right? Like, isn't he like a total silver fox? Because wasn't he like in Loki had like Loki had a bunch of gray hair? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Oh, interesting. I've never thought he was hot. He has old school Owen Wilson hair now. Yeah. In this one, right? Exactly. He's got that wonderful shaggy cut that we came to love in 2004. But yeah, it just feels a little, it's just weird because also the stakes, like narratively, it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And that's what I also love about it is like, I'm not even sure what the narrative forces acting on the characters are where it's like, JLo's like, I was supposed to marry my husband on a worldwide live stream. And I found out he was cheating like seconds before. So I decided I'm going to marry this guy with a sign and I'm going to make it work. Right. And clearly like with a sign that nobody has that. You're right. Nobody has any motivation that makes any sense because the shot of Owen Wilson holding the sign, it's very clear.
Starting point is 01:05:14 He doesn't know what he's holding. Yeah. And she's like that one. Sure. Why not? Like exactly like that one. Perfect. And the fact that he gets on stage and kisses her in front of his daughter.
Starting point is 01:05:27 It's like, you're so weird. I hate you. Like, your daughter never said to you, like, I want, like, you just got divorced from your wife. She's never like, when am I going to have a new mom, dad? Right. And then he doesn't let her meet her. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:05:42 He's like, sorry, she's got a lot going on, honey. Just go. He's like, I don't want to confuse things. And it's like, well, what are you talking about? You had foreplay in front of her. Right, right, right. Because they sucked face in that first kiss. It's one of those films that I'm just so glad it came out when it did
Starting point is 01:06:05 because it's like the it's like such a good bad movie where i was like yeah i agree i i got i was angry at stuff like in a funny way like laughing at certain things and it distracted me so you know great well it's fun are you amca list members again not plugging brands no but i mean i can't recommend it enough because it's like going into a movie like that is you can fall asleep if you want to right i watched it on peacock i was fully asleep like yeah because you can't smoke weed at amc oh got it sure yeah yeah that feels like a movie that would have come out on like in theaters. So the fact that it was available for streaming, I feel like a lot of people probably watched it streaming just because. Direct to Blu-ray.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Yeah. Direct to Blu-ray. That's, you know, it's great to see a couple of kids out there just trying to make it work. I remember I was rooting for them in anaconda to hook up and they didn't yeah like vocally i watched that with you it was kind of distracting but come on come on kiss her kiss her man oh why do you there's there's a great profile of owen wilson and ben spawn during the making of The Internship or The Intern, whatever that movie is, where, you know, it's clear that they got famous before the advent of any sort of technology and, like, don't understand the world that the movie is set in. Like, they might as well be making a movie that is you know set 300 years in the future
Starting point is 01:07:45 right so i'm always fascinated by anything with owen wilson because he exists in a in a separate reality oh yeah he totally does also i there's also weird like anamorphic lens things like they were using a fisheye lens for a lot of it that was very disturbing to watch i'm sorry what like okay if you have fisheye lens you see things distort like curve on the outsides of the frame right there's so many subtle one dude not even there are ones where you're like the window blinds are all curved on the edge of the frame and you're like what are they doing is it's like to make the performers look a different way like i see this happening more and more Or if they're using like just old.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Anamorphic cinema lenses. I don't know. There's you know. So there's so many things you look at. And you're just like confused. And you're like I. All right. Keep going. Keep going.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I know. But Ariana Grande was my favorite part. What? All right. Are we. Are you talking. You're still talking about marrying me right. Wait.
Starting point is 01:08:43 When is she in it. Are you serious. Did I fall asleep then? This is actually the most upset that one of our guests has ever been at one of the hosts of the show. Are you literally kidding me? No, I mean, it's fine. I know she plays like the the stupid pop star that like says, oh that like says dumb shit to Owen Wilson. It's like, I'm going to make you feel bad about your life. That's right. Yeah. Big role. Big role. Big role. Huge.
Starting point is 01:09:16 And she was in Don't Look Up as well, right? She was in Don't Look Up as well. Did I get that confused? I got it confused. My bad. Oh. I obviously didn't pay attention i love the reversal like that oh yeah fully my bad all the movies blend together yeah no they all do everything's
Starting point is 01:09:37 a mono film at this point oh man she should have been in it but that's such a great testament to like why filmmakers don't want their movies released on like streaming and probably shouldn't is because it's just like, wait, was that in? Nobody cares. Was that in Love is Blind or the new Judd Apatow film? Adam McKay is like, what the fuck? They're confusing my fucking film with Marry Me? Yeah, because it's that bad. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I like Don't Look Up. But I... Right. Sure. Well, Lindsay, it's been such a pleasure having you on the show until a few minutes ago when you just got really mad at Miles for...
Starting point is 01:10:21 So sorry. I got really upset. Ariana Grande was in a movie. She's not... I got really upset. Miles for getting Ariana Grande in a movie. She's not really upset. I'd like to formally apologize. Truly a pleasure through and through up to and including that moment. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on Instagram at Lindsay Adams is popular.
Starting point is 01:10:41 And you can find me on twitter at lindsey's face and i am on tiktok because people love my cat unfortunately wow okay and it's at lindsey adams is popular and my podcast snack time and everything else that i do yeah what give us one thing about uh that's been revealed on Snack Time that we would not suspect. I would say, I mean, the most recent episode, I posted a clip, but there's a story about Tom Arnold getting stabbed by Roseanne over snack wells. Wow. Yeah. I mean, hell yeah. Inside hot goss.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah. Over snack wells. Do they still make snack wells? No. Well, maybe. I don't know. I feel Goss. Yeah. Over Snackwells. Do they still make Snackwells? No. Well, maybe. I don't know. I feel like they were bad. Whatever happened to Snackwells ladies?
Starting point is 01:11:32 Remember, weren't all those commercials like these women who were like, yo, we're the Snackwells lady? Yeah. It was like deep diet culture of just like, it tastes bad, so it's healthy. Right. Right. I remember the commercials were so fucking in your face i was like begged my mom to get me snack wells because they looked good in the commercials and my mom's like what the like i'm throwing the tv away no we talked
Starting point is 01:11:58 so much about marketing toward in the 90s towards kids and how it was just like green ketchup pour it in my mouth right yeah snack wells was like that was the number one food that owned the fat-free wave but like just loaded down with sugar like they just found that hack they were like yeah no there's no fat in here it is made entirely it is like a sugar cast mold of a cookie yeah yeah exactly oh god look at diet culture is fucking the world up product by product yeah um is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying um i have been enjoying this. This is very random, but it got it got advertised on my husband's Facebook marketplace page. But they're DJ Fuego LA. I don't know. I know this is so random, but he does. He like put together. I know. I honestly wish it wasn't as random as it was, but I'm obsessed with him now. And he has this like robot that he created called Fuego Tron.
Starting point is 01:13:17 And he goes to quinceaneras and like straight up like dances hard. And so like I've just been on his instagram watching the videos it's uh his instagram is dj fuego la and like if you click on the party ones it's so funny it's so funny to watch this weird robot dance and like he has an led like screen that says like fuego tron like it like scrolls out it's so i just it's just i enjoy it i don't know what else to say i love party bot content yeah oh my god it's like on stilts and shit yes hold up oh Hold up. Oh. He's going to like run over this kid. Get him dancing. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Because that's the real treat. Bring Fuego-tron up to your party. Yeah, it's not a party. It's a Fuego-tron show. Yeah. I'm just like, please, somebody hire Fuego-tron for a party I can go to or I'm going to crash a quinceanera. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:24 But that's a person in a Fuego Tron suit, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, it is. It's this DJ dude who's just like, yeah, I love my life. I mean, maybe he's a bad person. And he looks like Bob Ross.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Right? Wow. It's so weird. He's got this little permed fro, and he's just Fuego. I just love, too, he's got like 2 000 followers this you really found a symbol of a local legend also a shout out to the fact that he has a 213
Starting point is 01:14:50 area code number that's how i know you from out here a hundred percent i know it just got added i guess he puts ads on facebook marketplace and i was like on and i was like what this is actually great all right miles where can people find you what is the tweet you've been enjoying man twitter and instagram at miles of gray uh also the other pod 420 day fiance with sophie alexandra where we just talk about 90 day and 420 the thing about tweets i mean how do i follow a fucking fuego tron after that first one at jazz underscore in my pants tweeted bro i am straight up not living la vida loca right now and one more is from uh derrick cortez at derrick y blacc tweeted this video of bob mcduff and if
Starting point is 01:15:41 you remember from the i think you should leave sketch with the professor and totally housing dylan's burger bob mcduff is a guy who played the professor i guess he passed away because uh derek tweeted rip bob mcduff just now finding out this line was improvised and people in public would yell it at him glad he got to feel that love before he passed. And that line being, give me that. When he talks about the burger. Apparently he improvised that. I'm so grateful to you, Bob McDuff.
Starting point is 01:16:15 That sketch has brought me so much joy. And rest in peace to you, sir. Truly. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I liked. Kristen Arnett tweeted, Man, I feel like some ramen. Doot doot.
Starting point is 01:16:30 I just like that. I bet. You know. I'll eat there. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes on our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we
Starting point is 01:16:48 talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what is your song recommendation today? Oh my gosh, gotta keep representing iconic artists, and gotta give it up to one of my favorite producers of all time, Jay Dilla, but
Starting point is 01:17:04 from his album, The Shining, and this is a track, track you know there's a lot of tracks like people really really like e and c squared with common is one people really like won't do is another one people listen to a lot but there is a track with j-rock and kareem riggins who are also legendary in their own right and it's called body moving and i just you know if you like sample-based hip-hop, it doesn't get better than J Dilla. And I'd imagine for millennials of a certain age, a lot of like the hip-hop that you're like, man, I love this like Tribe song or this like, you know, Diggable Planets or De La Soul.
Starting point is 01:17:36 A lot of that was J Dilla and even beyond. So use this to get into his work. On top of J-Rock, also talented DJ and Kareem Riggins, fantastic drummer, Body Movin'. All movement all right well go check that out the daily zeitgeist is a production by heart radio for more podcasts from my heart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that's going to do it for us this morning but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
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