The Daily Zeitgeist - Our Celebrity Obsessions, Preemptive Trump Dump 05.24.22

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

In episode 1254, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of Dear Owen Wilson, Blair Socci to discuss… Trump abandons Perdue in Georgia, Bezos Can’t Hide it Anymore, He’ll Do ...Anything To Stop the Discourse Around Corp Greed, Celebrity Crushes/Obsessions and more! Trump abandons Perdue in Georgia Bezos Can’t Hide it Anymore, He’ll Do Anything To Stop the Discourse Around Corp Greed LISTEN: Entanglement by Soccer96See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 231 episode 2 of their daily zeitgeist production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's tuesday may 24th 2022 national scavenger hunt day go for a little go for a little national scavenger hunt yeah or or just a regular scavenger hunt around your neighborhood. Yeah. I mean, when was the last time you did a scavenger hunt? That wasn't. I feel like every scavenger hunt I did was when somebody tried to get me to go to their youth church.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And they're like, hey, we're doing a fun scavenger hunt. The last thing on the thing is the body of Christ. The last thing is salvation. And all of those things you searched for brought you to the cross. And what you were looking for this whole time was salvation, kids. And you found it at the altar. There it is. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:02:57 You fill the three and dump it in the five. The five. You fill the three again and only dump in two. In two. You dump out three again and only dump in two. In two. You dump out the five and add remaining one. You add three more and end with four. And that's how you stop the bomb by the fountain from going off in the park. And Die Hard 3.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Die Hard with a Vengeance. Yep. With Zeus. Yep. Played by Sam Jackson. Shout out to Schweitz on twitter for that aka to the tune of the diehard three score as they pointed out which is which is the ants go marching for some reason yeah it's like kind of the central theme of that movie and for uh you know memorializing the scene
Starting point is 00:03:41 with the water riddle thing that turns out to be just like straight up a math problem like usually movies have riddles where like there's a single clever answer and then like it hits you in the brain and you're like all right and we're moving on but that one that's just like that's matt matt fundamentals just grinding out an answer a very confounding moment. Big fans. Borderline stress dream. But I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Nacho fries ain't justified.
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Starting point is 00:04:34 has returneth just like Jesus, okay? I hate to keep having this beam come back up, but it's coming back around again. I mean, let's be honest, this is a long audition for the mexican pizza right exactly i heard there was a rage against the machine that dolly parton was considering and i was hoping to put look i could i'll play the like the tim 2k bass lines like i could do that i'll play my part back yeah i love that for you thank
Starting point is 00:05:01 you thank you thank you the mexican pizza musical ak's have been a highlight for me oh yeah doing this show of knowing you of my life uh anyways miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant stand-up comedian who you've seen on mtv comedy central mbc true tv e fuse yes and quibi yeah if you've just been alive for the history, living under a rock since Quibi launched and the world wobbled on its axis. She's the host of one of my new favorite podcasts, our sister podcast, dear own Wilson,
Starting point is 00:05:36 in which she brings on a comedian to read a note to their childhood or not childhood necessarily, but just celebrity obsession based on her letter to Owen Wilson from when she was a kid. She's one of your favorites. One of our favorites. It's Blair Saki. Hey Blair.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Oh my God. What up the daily zeitgeist? Back. Back like you never know. God, what an intro. That brought a tear to my eye. Thank you. It's so's so feels so good to be
Starting point is 00:06:07 back like just getting in a warm jacuzzi blair was aggressively yawning during the whole intro i have to say not close not even one no fucking way pretending to sleep no what's new blair you what's new blair oh god it's so good to be back for my soul feels revived feels reinvigorated back with my guys everything's been pretty good you know i feel like we're just barraged every day especially if you are an internet user with all of the horrors of being alive but in my personal life you know i really can't complain okay i mean i like that how's the how's the podcast been has it been everything you hoped and more i know you were doing it for a long a long time as a live show oh yeah you know i always wondered when i originally thought of the idea i thought of it as a podcast and i just didn't do it and i became a live show
Starting point is 00:07:06 and now it's been really fun we have three episodes out but i've had so much fun most of the people that have been on have done the live show and it's so it's exciting that they're excited because they already know sort of what they're in for right yeah it's uh it's very it's a great premise great it's a great show it's so fun that we are and other guests don't get any ideas but we are going to devote a little section of the show to just talk celebrity obsessions so that because got a couple yeah we we got a couple i can't't imagine. Yeah, honestly, you made this possible for me. So, yeah, thanks for helping me with iHeartRadio because it's a thrill. It's a thrill to be working with you.
Starting point is 00:07:54 All right. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. Trump has abandoned his man in Georgia, David Perdue. My clockwork. On the grounds of him no longer being a viable candidate. Trump was like, I don't know who that is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:14 People keep asking me about this David Perdue guy. No clue. Not a clue. So just stop. Yeah. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about Jeff Bezos. We're going to talk about celebrity crushes, obsessions, all that. Plenty more. But first, Blair, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Starting point is 00:08:46 was Florence Pugh because I saw her frolicking in a bikini in Ibiza a picture of her with a guy and I was like oh did she break up with 50 year old Zach Braff you know 24 year old Florence Pugh and so I really just wanted to know but it's confirmed no they're still together she was just you know having a day with one of her friends yeah oh man it's you and Kate Raft or Kate Raft tweeted today they were like yo I just got this feeling. Wait, what was it? It says, I woke up this morning and felt a distinct sense of knowing, a feeling, an indescribable sensation. I think Zach Braff and Florence Pugh have broken up.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Wow. So I just read that and I was like, yo, okay, something. Maybe y'all are seeing something that might not be there. Yeah, it was just a picture so it's just a question i was i wasn't like oh they broke up but i was like i wonder what's going on maybe there's been a change but you know we all have these karmic contracts and some of us need to uh go through the experience of dating a man twice our age and you know i support her whatever she needs to do shout out yeah man if i had you know if i had to deal with rumors of infidelity or my marriage ending every time i
Starting point is 00:09:52 was frolicking on a beach with a friend in abiza like that would be tough i would not be able to deal with that yeah no yeah i mean just let me frolic in Ibiza Yes Just doing me Well that's cool What's something you think is overrated Guys I'm just gonna say it I'm just gonna say it You know what's overrated And I hope you guys are all listening to me out there
Starting point is 00:10:18 All you way too vocal Eating ass people Okay that's what's overrated. This shit has become like Beanie Babies in the 90s. This is so played out all of a sudden. It's like, this is like by Felicia. Please stop talking about it. Leave something for your bedroom.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I am sick. I am sick of your talk. This guy, I said something about that. And he was like, oh oh you can't silence me you can't silence me i was like yes we're talking about being vocal about eating ass yeah i don't care if you want to eat ass just shut the fuck up about it oh my god you don't wear your bag like vocal ass eating like people who eat loud they're talking about it all the time and i anytime i hear like people just constantly bragging about it and it happens a lot i think in the stand-up comedy world and i'm like honey you need a new premise babe like even if like even anyone loudly bragging
Starting point is 00:11:18 about that at first one my my bullshit meter goes off a little bit i'm like i don't know if you're talking about it that much if you're really doing it I don't know if you're talking about it that much, if you're really doing it. I don't know. It kind of has that vibe of like, I have a girlfriend, she just goes to a different school type of thing. Eat her ass every day, every morning.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah. Oh, so in a way, so part of you is like, oh, you think you talk like you're about that life, but you're not really about that life. How many ass-eating posers do you think are out there? Like, if you had to give a fraction of all the vocal people who are into analingus, how many of them are like, I've never heard that before.
Starting point is 00:11:53 For a bit. I want to go, like, 60%. 60% are talking about it and have never done it? Yeah, or it's just that it takes away the mystique of it like even if someone else is out there doing it and they actually are doing it just talking about it all the time it's just so it takes like the coolness out of it it's a try hard vibe eating ass how about eating up the lord the word of our lord and savior jesus christ right i mean saved saved it it is one of those ideas that has become a meme and i feel like i hear about it more from people who are
Starting point is 00:12:35 talking about it like old people talking about it than the people who are actually doing it is like but that's just because i hang out with mostly like people over the age of 60 yeah yeah i'm just like oh it's been oh it's overdone now well i'm just it's too much it's too much right maybe i'm a boomer i'm a boomer well you never know i mean have you are you watching the stair uh the staircase, you know I am. I mean, Boomer Z-Dass, too. Oh, God. That guy's so sick.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Colin Firth is like... I mean, because I watched 10 minutes of the documentary on Netflix just because I wanted to see the accuracy. And I was like, oh, my God. He is nailing this guy. So like cellularly. Yes. Yeah. The performance is absolutely wild. It's it's like a dead on impression.
Starting point is 00:13:33 But then as you watch the show, it like reveals layers about the guy that like the documentary doesn't. But like that, you're like, yeah, that's probably true. Like, that's that's probably true like that's yeah it's in it it's full of just really incredible performances one of which is the performance of analingus by colin firth on his wife who he soon oh yeah i forgot about that part you're right yeah so not not just yeah yeah the circus is really in the zeitgeist yeah and you get a sense like it's a ass-eating scene that also you're like how do they come like that because he's a very you know strange dude who at times seems like he could be like a little bit insufferable
Starting point is 00:14:21 and she's like very straight-l. Seems like just like, you know, ass kicker at, at the office type. And that scene really brought together a lot for me where I was like, Oh, okay. They like, they have just like a wild sex life.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And like, that's a big part of like what, yeah. What brought them together. By the way, that solidified my, that like watching that show where I'm like, OK, two staircase murders. And it also just confirmed to me that like no murderer believes they committed murder. I'm like this man. It feels in my heart like he fundamentally doesn't believe that he did it you know right well he's whispered her name a thousand times in his heart as he confusingly said in his only statement before going into prison isn't that crazy though like
Starting point is 00:15:13 you distinctly get the vibe like he doesn't believe he murdered her in his own head i don't like he convinced himself otherwise you're full on he did it oh 100 i mean i haven't finished the series and i haven't watched a documentary but yes bitch okay i think i'm like well they show like all those lacerations on her head where they're like this was not from this was from being some a weapon right yeah yeah it's very i i believe I fully believe he did it. And it's obvious like half the time. And then the other half I'm like, but maybe the kids in the whole large,
Starting point is 00:15:54 like blended family was like very tragic to me, especially those two girls that crushed my spirit. Oh my God. Really sad. What's something you think is underrated? Underrated. Oh, I, one, really sad what's something you think is underrated underrated oh i won i'm gonna have to go with peaches like the singer i saw her at just like heaven or them i'm not sure uh just like heaven this weekend and i was just amazed i was like oh this person is a fucking rock star it was incredible it was like a very inspiring performance to me also underrated my dad seeing me do stand-up comedy for the first time last
Starting point is 00:16:32 weekend wow whoa how was what was that like um it was really good it was like a very heart cleansing experience for me my parents had never seen me do comedy and um my dad i would headline the irvine improv and my dad came and i brought him on stage after and i cried after oh you was yeah i feel like you and your i i saw that other bit you posted about you know being raised by your dad was a very manly man yeah and how that affected you was he there was that was that that show yeah it was the first time this was last week and you did that. And what was that like for him seeing you like use your, you know, your experiences of being his daughter, like on the stage and people being like, I think he liked it. I was way less worried about that stuff because I don't say anything mean about my family that I wouldn't say in front of them. And I don't really like mean spirited anything in general. Like, I don't like mean things, but it was like just like sexual stuff, which I only have like a little.
Starting point is 00:17:36 But that was I was so I was like, couldn't believe I was saying that in front of my dad. That was like horrifying because you never like write that stuff thinking it's, you know, saying that in front of my dad that was like horrifying because you never like write that stuff thinking it's you know stand up comedy say that in front of your parents yeah you're not meant to say those things in front of your parents but that's love i think yeah yeah and i'm like you know i could look at that objectively and i thought that analingus is overrated what um and then like in the interaction since he's seeing seeing you do stand up has there been is he offering like proposing bits like my dad does sometimes or i did make a very strong disclaimer after i thanked like all my childhood friends and like all my parents' friends. None of them had really seen me do comedy. I've tried to keep my life separate for this whole like performing life separate from them this entire time.
Starting point is 00:18:36 It was like the first time I was experiencing integration between my two lives. But I said up front, I go, and I just want to say by purchasing a ticket you have therefore agreed to never bring up anything that i say to me again so no one i said no one's allowed to approach me about anything i say right perfect that's smart i love hearing those stories where people are like i and my parents saw me do what i do really well for the first time and it went well turns out yeah it was one of the best nights of my life, honestly. Just because there had been so many years of just wondering. And it was just very crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Well, shout out to the supportive parents out there. And to you for having a wonderful moment. For bringing it all back around. Life is crazy. is crazy right right right and what they they had seen your stand-up like on online before presumably right yes but never told me that they did so i really didn't know until one time like we were eating steak and my
Starting point is 00:19:41 dad said something like quoted one of my or like we know blair doesn't like her steak well done and my face just got like red hot like burned off my face because he was like quoting an inappropriate bit of mine online and um that was the first time i read and we never talked about it again like anything so yeah i feel like from your stand-up, just that anecdote, I feel like I have a clear idea of your dad. Just a person who is constantly eating a piece of meat of one form or another. The Brad Pitt of dads. Yes. But do you have, like, because you, like, with your family, what's the thing?
Starting point is 00:20:23 I always feel like anybody who's a performer in comedy, like your family was like, you know who you got it. You know who you get it from, right? You know who you're just like, you know where you get that. You're you want to be all funny all the time. You get it from so-and-so. Who do they always say that you're you get? Where do you get it from, Blair? Well, my dad says I get it from him that he loves to say that.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Of course he is. I would only say this behind his back he's extremely funny like and like intentionally funny he's like incredible funny and my mom's really funny too but like more in this kooky like way where you're like wow so i would say I'm definitely a mix. I would never give credit to one. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. My parents would always be like, well, that ain't me.
Starting point is 00:21:13 See, that's humility. That's nice. Yeah. Well, yeah. They're always like, it's your grandfather. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that makes more sense. Like, very gregarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Old man. So, yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break we'll come back and talk about some news and then celebrity obsessions i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7mM TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
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Starting point is 00:25:54 and we're back and so we're heading into well it will be happening today right the georgia primary in georgia and david purdue the losing former senator from georgia is kind of stepped up to run for governor and it has not gone well no just as his last one didn't right like he he just they were like i mean they really want to vote for a republican but he's uh absolutely devoid of charisma and uh has shitty politics you got a a wooden block carving of a senator up there and you told them to have the, you know, charisma of a winning candidate. It's not going to work. And also, you know, we talked about this all the time. David Perdue is only running against Brian Kemp because Brian Kemp wouldn't rat fuck the election in Georgia for Donald Trump. That's the only
Starting point is 00:26:40 reason. And Trump was like, OK, you like that? How about this? I'm going to put a wholly undesirable candidate to run against you in the primary. OK. And sadly, David Perdue had to go up there because he's such a rubber stamp like puppet for Trump. He couldn't say any of his own ideas, for example. And we pointed out this last time he the debates he did brian kemp when they're talking about who's going to be governor of the fucking state uh this was brian kemp's opening statement as he's talking to the voters of georgia first off folks let me be very clear tonight the election in 2020 was rigged and stolen okay thank you now you. Now, that's your opening statement, which means...
Starting point is 00:27:27 To be governor. Yeah, to be governor is... Just be like, I love Trump. And you know what? I think a lot of people said, well, this is interesting because you're really going to pit people's loyalty. Like, if they're loyal to Trump to a T,
Starting point is 00:27:38 then they should absolutely be voting for David Perdue because that's the person he's picking. But it's clear that no one gives a fuck about Trump's grievances like he does, because right now Perdue is getting smashed in the polls like by 30 points, 60 to 28 going in favor of Kemp. But Perdue, he says, don't worry, that's not that big of an L. This is what he said in response to being asked about his low polling quote. Hell no, I'm not down 30 points. Uh, we may not win Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:28:06 but I guarantee you, we are not down 30 points. That's right. Cause you're down 32 points. Right. Okay. So we'll see what happened. I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:16 I think the big, the big takeaway here is like that what Brian Kemp could do in his capacity at governor far outweighs just Trump yelling and screaming from the sidelines, like, Hey, vote for this guy that I picked because Purdue or Brian Kemp, you know, enacted a gas tax holiday to ease the burden on people's wallets when they go to the pumps. So, and many people will be like, wow, thank you. The governor of the state versus David Purdue. He also like in some real, you know gangster type shit started like
Starting point is 00:28:47 he got purdue's cousin sunny purdue who used to be the governor of georgia he's basically like trying to keep a lot of his allies from being able to back him right so he got basically this dude sunny purdue essentially got him to become the chancellor of the university system of georgia like recently and people were like oh wow so maybe you're not going to be coming out to support your cousin david purdue who's running and then also like another state representative who went you know who bit the hand of kemp he basically gerrymandered the maps again and said oh yeah you don't even have a seat anymore homie good luck with that so he got you know there there were there was a lot going on but you saw the power of being an office versus merely a trump endorsement here people are treating
Starting point is 00:29:31 this like an indict like this is an indictment of trump's like continued influence it feels a little bit like a heat check like a player in an nba game who's like really like hit five threes in a row and then like shoots from midcourt and like just to see it's like a complete air ball but they're like sorry I just I thought I had like bent the rules of reality and somehow everything was going to just go in so I don't I don't know like Miles you have a better mind for this shit than me but like do you feel like this is a sign of you know his waning influence i don't know i mean there's there is like this weird thing where you know there are there were plenty of his picks that got through primaries last week and so in that sense you're like well you know he might not be winning them all but he definitely wins a lot of them by by
Starting point is 00:30:22 swooping in but i think the the bigger takeaway is more of like that less than the people being still on board with trump's 2020 grievances i think a lot of the voters they've moved on from that and it's now just metastasized into being less about trump and being more about how do we make libs cry with the most cruel fucking laws we can create that's that's that seems to be more energizing than being like they stole the election from trump because now you see where all that all of the energy is going to whether whether it's overturning roe or these transphobic bills or don't say gay bills whatever that's that seems to be energizing a lot of people and you can tell the party knows that
Starting point is 00:31:05 because that's what that's how they're chumming the waters again with that stuff they're not they're off that 2020 was stolen shit they're like nah man most people i think have accepted that l and they're like okay then fuck it it's about making a shit as fucked up as possible but really you know we're just watching these like we're watching fascism parade around when they're like aggressive conservative values. But they, yeah, but they don't see it that way. Like, it's, like, the same way as the murderers. Like, they don't see themselves as murderers.
Starting point is 00:31:32 They think they're, like, it's, like, going back to the Middle Ages of, like, the Crusades. It's, like, when anyone is doing something in the name of, you're, like, like oh you're killing people in the name of like morality or whatever and it's like just politics with this extremism that just seems to be going just rapidly catching fire yeah everywhere right and we're we're combining like partisan politics with like toxic American ego that doesn't understand how much how like how much in the wrong direction the ego will pull you. now about looking at the powers that they do have that's why you see people like this guy doug mastriano who is who won the primary for governor in pennsylvania this guy is a full on like this guy like if he's governor in pennsylvania in 2024 he will do whatever the fuck donald trump wants like that's how he got here so we're seeing a lot of these people now who are just all in on this thing be like all right y'all get that one because the. So we're seeing a lot of these people now who are just all in on this thing.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Be like, all right, y'all get that one. Because the next time we're just going to fucking shut the gates and we'll see you try and have any kind of fair election when we have all these other people in these roles that can completely fuck up the process. I think I think politics is so scary. Like, I honestly think there are just as many psychos as there are in stand-up comedy i'm not kidding because like even if you start out with pure of heart in politics it just seems there's no way to keep that like i i don't know it's just i feel the ego the ego involved in these people is like they forget they forget what they're even doing there it's scary it's like this uh this like defeating they just want to like conquer you know yeah if yeah it feels like the the people who last are the ones who like have a unflappable urge to power and like that is the main motivating factor which like works out in the long run
Starting point is 00:33:46 because if that's the thing that you know you're adaptable as long as the only thing you care about is power then you can just keep rat fucking and you know harming people but like finding ways to get and get power without ever like really exposing yourself like that's the new model of like in europe and with trump like that's the new model of dictator is like less coherence in terms of ideology and more coherence in terms of or and more just consistency in terms of they'll do anything to stay in power and they just like follow the hate because they see that as like the lifeblood that they're just kind of not like that's like presenting a new idea to anybody or anything but it is it's when there was the old era of politics of like reagan and stuff where you didn't talk about who you voted for and everyone was just polite and republicans were
Starting point is 00:34:41 polite to democrats and democrats were polite to Republicans, even if things were, even if you completely disagree and or hated them, like the public presentation was like of politeness or respect or some sort, not respect, but I don't know what the word is. But now it seems like presidents and stuff, especially like the Trump era and stuff, it's getting back into like that old timey like monarchy type of thing where it's just like fight and conquer
Starting point is 00:35:11 present the other side is evil and must be defeated at all costs like forgetting the entire mission of you know caring for the people yeah well i think but that's the i think that's the biggest issue is the majority of people don't enter Congress with that sentiment or that feeling, you know, they grow up in like generational wealth and they know it's like, man, I kind of need to be the governor in order to protect the family business. That's kind of how this is going to work. Like I'm gonna, might have to get into politics so I can protect this thing or further the interests of this industry. And because some people, you know, I think if we get the conjunction junction, the schoolhouse rock version of politics, we think, and the people go into Congress to represent their district. I would say maybe 5% of people who get into politics actually think that most other people, it's clear what the benefit is of being in politics you can help your stocks you can help other companies you can get fast-tracked into a very lucrative field of like lobbying there's so much money to be made just by being in congress like for a little bit that i think a lot it's like almost like looking at how comedians will
Starting point is 00:36:20 like look at upright citizens brigade where it's like well shit if i get into ucb and i get in that place then i might get on an nbc sitcom down the road or some shit like that like it's it's it's not always seen as the be all end all the people it's it's just it offers a lot of these other opportunities and i think that's why we find ourselves in a place we're like well we're the people that care about the people and it's's like, they're in a very small minority. Yeah. That's scary to think about. They're constantly shouted out. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Well, you know, something we like to say on this podcast is democracy dies in darkness. We say that all the time. And, uh, fortunately there's a one brave, bald man shredded these days.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Hey, thank you so much, man. I've been working on, you know, the pellets. Oh, well, yeah much, man. I've been working on, you know, the Peloton. Oh, well, yeah, of course. I talk to you plenty. I'm talking about Jeff Bezos, baby.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah, yeah, fuck that guy. Yeah. It was a tough one for billionaires last week on Twitter in particular. Damn. Yeah. Oh my God, I'm having such a weird one.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Elon. Yeah. I don't want to talk about Elon much, but Jeff Bezos, he got in his Twitter bag last week because this, you know, he there was a sequence of events that I think was really alarming for an oligarch, which was step one. Joe Biden had the Amazon worker slash organizers welcome them to the White House. And he was like, whoa, why is he talking to that person who's trying to cut down on my bottom lines? What the fuck is this going on? And then we also had a moment where Joe Biden was saying, to be able to combat all of these rising prices and stuff, we actually need to start taxing these corporations and the wealthier people. That's how we're going to offset some of this shit, because that's what we're drawing the line to. The rising prices isn't because of me or this other shit. There's a lot of
Starting point is 00:38:16 corporate greed that's affecting the higher prices. And this is a guy, again, Jeff Bezos, who avoided paying $5 billion in taxes last year, just couldn't handle it anymore. So he started like retweeting op-eds from the Washington Post from this one. See, that's impartial. That's just evidence right there. What do you, that's just, yeah. Oh, my op-ed? Retweeting this op-ed?
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Retweeting this op-ed from the Washington Post. What is it? They can't make that shit up. Can't make this up. Listen to this person. They basically said it's a conspiracy theory and that corporate greed is somehow influencing rising costs.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And it's actually those COVID stimulus checks for the poor people that is causing the rising costs. Let's not slip that up. And again, a lot of people point to the fact that the Economic Policy Institute has plenty of data that says over half of the price increases in this country over the last couple of years can be directly attributed to larger corporate profit margins. There's no like, oh, what do we do, bro? It's COVID. We're a multinational corporation. Like, help us by, you know know going along with these higher prices and
Starting point is 00:39:26 not saying anything so it's i think what the real problem here is that we have jeff bezos who you know for someone who's like complaining about government spending none of these op-eds he's retweeting talk about the fact that he's right now begging congress for a massive corporate tax break and also got like a $10 billion federal contract and is also lobbying for more space projects from the federal government. It's like, well, OK, so, you know, and you know, and you can accept some money from the government. And then other times when they're saying things like your greed is contributing to these massive price hikes, then it's a problem. Interesting. price hikes then it's a problem interesting and we do have like we've played audio from you know like earnings calls from the people who run big corporations being like yeah so we like raised prices and people paid them and so that's like giving us more money which is fucking so dope that's so sick dude oh my god so like look
Starting point is 00:40:27 that's we that's records we're putting up records dude and like this is the time when everybody's supposed to be like hurting we're putting up records dude just by raising prices it's fucking so dope you're just doing it dude it's like I remember like when I used to sell lemonade to my elderly grandma and I told her one cup was 10 bucks and she fucking bought like eight of them, bro. She's also senile, dude. She's kind of dealing with some cognitive impairment. But, dude, that's kind of where we're at. I saw an opportunity. Dude, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Except for the Arizona iced tea guy. Right. He's a good man. So this is all like, you know, for years, right? Jeff Bezos and the people at the Post. Not to say that working at the Washington Post, like you're shilling for Jeff Bezos because there's plenty of great journalism that comes out of there. What the problem is here is that his insistence, right? He's like, I don't meddle in the day to day or give edicts on like what people need to be writing about or not writing about.
Starting point is 00:41:25 But when you, the one of the most richest people in the world who owns a paper and then you retweet someone's column, I'd imagine the other people who work there go, OK, so he's liking that shit, huh? OK, so he likes that when you talk spicy about raising corporate taxes and that this isn't a function of greed greed that it's also it's a fact of reckless government spending okay and their bosses their bosses see that shit too you know like maybe maybe as a op-ed columnist is pretty transparent but the bosses who hire these op-ed columnists they see that they know that this person is ultimately in charge of you know the their continued livelihood right exactly and that all that is ultimately in charge of, you know, the, their continued livelihood.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Right. Exactly. And that all that is going to have an effect undoubtedly. And this is a thing. I remember in 2015, there's this, uh, that they wreck right around the time he got the paper, there was this anecdote that was just saying, you know, even he may not meddle, but he does check in quote, every two weeks, Jeff bezos holds an hour-long conference call with the executives at the washington post twice a year the managers fly to seattle for strategy sessions with the amazon.com founder and every so often they find a reader complaint in their inbox forwarded without comment from jeff at amazon.com huh we heard about this at amazon too right it sounds like a very similar yeah yeah hands off but hands
Starting point is 00:42:46 on type of thing and oh amazon was very hands-on i thought i thought like there was just like people just like grown people grown-ups just like weeping openly like in there like just that was that was that wasn't like a thing that happened once that was at the soundtrack when you worked there was like sobs from grown people who were like high powered executives at other companies and have been doing this forever. And it's just like they drive you so hard if you don't respond to an email in three minutes, they're on your ass and noticing. Yeah. And another quote two years later when they ask, hey, like, why do you like the Washington Post? Like, why was it important for you to buy it? Quote, it is the newspaper in the capital city of the most important
Starting point is 00:43:28 country in the world the washington post has an incredible role to play in this democracy and the downfall of it oh yeah so i mean again this is why you know we're at an age where so many of the, you know, venues for like mass distributed information are controlled by oligarchs who, whether or not they're being overt about or in this case, it's pretty overt, you know, putting their thumb on the scales to be like, and this is where the discourse should be not about talking about corporate profiteering, because that's not a problem. But I don't know how I don't know how long people will be able to avoid that. All right, let's take a quick break, and we'll come back and talk about some celebrity crushes, obsessions. Mine might be another muscular bald person, so we'll see. person. So we'll see. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films
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Starting point is 00:48:30 and we're back and all right so blair the show is so good dear oh thank you so much first Jeff. First three episodes are up? Yeah, that means so much to me. But these are incredibly talented people who you're having on who are like unreasonably obsessed with people like Justin Bieber in the case of Rosebud Baker,
Starting point is 00:48:59 Henry Cavill for Gabrus. And you then proceed to attack their souls in your in your cross-examination on the subject of you know their letter and their feelings for the celebrity but the the fandom is just i feel like this is true for a lot of people i know that like our fandoms are like the most like basic thing about us. It's pure. Yeah, it's so pure. And it's yeah, like Rosebud Baker being like a Justin Bieber stan is not, you know. What you would imagine?
Starting point is 00:49:42 No. Yeah, I know. She's so soft about him. It's very peculiar. But so this idea came from, you found an old letter you had written to Owen Wilson? No, no. So I wrote him a letter.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I was not a child, by the way, which is what makes this even weirder. In 2007, I wrote him a letter after he had that little whoopsie do you know and i was genuinely it was like at the height of wedding crasher fame and i was just like in awe of him i loved him i was just like there's no one like him on earth and i was just like oh no i just need to know i need him to know that he's so special and to tell him i hope he feels better and i was just like how could someone this loved not feel loved or whatever or not know how i wanted him to know how loved he was so i mailed him a letter who
Starting point is 00:50:38 knows whatever address i got off the internet so who knows if you ever at Hollywood received it um maybe it was sent to like an agent or manager's office or something I don't know but you know it all did come full circle I just thought later like you know I see so much stand-up and I love stand-up but I love getting to know comedians in other ways where they get to be funny, not in their act. And it is crazy because Owen Wilson does know about the show. So I want to have him on eventually. Wow. Do a bad impression.
Starting point is 00:51:18 I know he knows because Demi Moore came and she texted him right in front of me. Whoa. Yeah. Wait, was she like, I'm texting him now? now yes she showed me the text she showed me oh demi wait what was demi more doing that wait so how did she get involved too she came two months in a row to the show it was really sweet um hoping to hear her name yeah like she came because she and mar Kelly were doing a movie together. And like she brought the whole cast of the movie. So like all there was a lot of people, fun people there.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And she came right up to me, hugged me after, like was so nice. And then her daughter said, I want to be on the show. So I had her daughter Scout on the next month. So she came again and Scout wrote a letter to Ted Danson, which was really funny. And I really got to exercise my interviewing skills because I was like, I have to get enough out of her that it's like, I didn't be too soft,
Starting point is 00:52:20 but I can't, but I also had to toe the line where I like want to be totally respectful because i i don't know i do it is a little between two ferns ish i warn every guest i'm like uh it's a wild interview process and you will be caught off guard you will go places you just gotta buckle up yeah damn how and how did it end up with scout in tears or no she at the time realized she was such a pro i did ask her like you know because i do have a private detective named lucian wickles who conducts a lot of my research and is responsible for all of the questions of harsher more direct nature and me i'm completely absolved and innocent and so see you know he asked like uh
Starting point is 00:53:08 is die hard a christmas movie and some certain questions we got to the bottom of um she was really good though wow wait so why owen wilson for you like what about owen wilson inspired your celebrity crush you know was it purely because you're like, this guy is a fucking comedic genius. He's on fire. And he's kind of got a wonky look that I'm into. I love, I'll be straight up, I love a fucked up nose. But also, I just think that there's something about him
Starting point is 00:53:43 where he's just being himself. And I feel like he's just straight up being himself and that is so that's way too reductive of a description but like i'm like if you could pop that hard if you could have that sort of mega star power just by completely being your resting self i don't know i think it's kind of amazing and charming and i don't think there's anyone like him yeah he was a he's a good writer he wrote like two co-wrote two classic movies and then was just like i don't really need to do this anymore with rushmore and royal tenenbaums right yeah yeah and bottle rocket i guess he was nominated for an oscar or won an oscar damn yeah i should know who is who is who is your well what celebrity are you obsessed with
Starting point is 00:54:33 so you mentioned like sexual athlete musician all of mine are in one. And that is Bruce Willis, one of my favorite musicians. One of my favorite athletes. No, I just, I picked Bruce Willis because I, it's the only person who I considered a movie genre unto themselves. Like Bruce Willis movies was my favorite movie genre from like the age of eight to like 13. He diehard was my favorite movie genre from like the age of eight to like 13 he die hard was my favorite movie from the time i saw it at like eight years old until like pulp fiction and then 12 monkeys after that it was always a bruce willis movie and like i don't
Starting point is 00:55:17 really know why like that is that star power jack i even liked hud liked Hudson Hawk bro were you I mean aside from consuming all the work did you like get interested outside of that like you're like oh his favorite thing is this he came from there okay did you ever get into any were you ever interested in anybody to that extent the one thing I knew I knew about him was that like he didn't
Starting point is 00:55:40 want to be like he didn't want to be an actor he wanted to be a famous like blues musician like he didn't want to be like, he, he didn't want to be an actor. He wanted to be a blue, a famous like blues musician, like John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd before him. He like, he was like, I want to just be like a famous blues singer and dancer,
Starting point is 00:55:56 but that's not a thing. So like being a famous, like blues harmonica singer, like at least not on the level of fame that I think he was striving for. I saw John Popper in blues travel and he's like, right. I did this acting shit. Like John Popper was like one of the world's best harmonica players.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Bruce Willis was just trying to like make a voice like that. I did not. My fandom did not follow through to Bruno his nom de plume in the music world but yeah he has a inherent masculinity though that is like you know unmatched
Starting point is 00:56:37 yeah I think there's like something about him that reminds me of my dad that I was just realizing today like as I was it's like oh i probably like have like some dad stuff tied in there yeah like that's mainly why like i was like curious was like because there's not like other beyond star power which a lot of people have like the fact that he would have been the star of like my three favorite movies for like the time when of my life when i
Starting point is 00:57:03 was falling in love with movies as always like i never really stopped and like looked at it but right yeah i'm sure there's some dead shit going on there how about you miles i feel like you've got you've got answers for days here like that's what i said it could be athlete sexual awakening or musician? Give the top three. Sexual awakening, Tyra Banks. Obsessed with Tyra Banks. Oh, my God. She was like incredible. Between like when she was on Fresh Prince and then when she was in higher learning and all these other things. I was like, oh, my God, I love Tyra Banks.
Starting point is 00:57:40 And I remember my dad, he was doing he was shooting like a magazine cover or something. He was he was doing a photo shoot with her. And I begged him to miss school so I could see so I could see Tyra Banks in person. And he was like, no, it's like in the middle of school. Like, what am I going to tell your teachers? Like, hey, man, he needs to miss class because he needs to go thirst after Tyra Banks. Like, no, but he did like you know there wasn't really video back then but he got me like uh he he had her sign a picture for me i took that
Starting point is 00:58:10 i had that shit in my binder you know what i mean like the see-through binders and you could put pictures in it i was like and tyra banks signed that to me and she put a heart over the eye in miles okay self-esteem through the roof my My sexual awakening was Paul Abdul. 1988. Okay. Yeah. Dancing with that cat. These are good choices. Honestly,
Starting point is 00:58:29 these are really good choices. That cold hearted snake video was foundational. She could move, babe. Yes. Oh yeah. 100%. And then like musician.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Oh, I love Pharrell because Pharrell was like this light skin dude who people thought was Asian. So as me being like a half black half asian person i never really like tiger woods was kind of it but then like there was this cool guy pharrell people like you kind of remind me of pharrell i'm like okay that might be a little reductive but i'll take it and because i was in i was a musician too and he started in marching band like i did and i also liked making beats i was like this guy's giving me a fucking road map for the fucking future and all his beats are fire and i basically
Starting point is 00:59:10 i mean i i to this day i know so much about the neptunes um and they're so cool i love fral what does that say about us you know what do you think about me being a tyra and him being a paul abdul what would you what would you gather from that blair i'd say i know two guys with incredible taste is all i all i see yeah oh my god oh my god i i remember seeing tyra banks in like the victoria's secret catalogs that came to my house like for my mom or whatever and i would just be like oh god how could someone be so beautiful like i would she i was like she's like she's so beautiful it like hurts yeah yeah no and i think that felt like that despite me being a pubescent child i was like this is how
Starting point is 01:00:01 could someone look like this i know this. This is the beyond end all. It's like a freak of, you know, like Megan Fox. You're like, okay, how is that real? Okay, really? What? You weren't alive in 2008? I'm saying that's my reaction to Megan Fox. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Oh, really? This is bullshit. This is too much. Paula Abdul forever. Yeah. Paula Abdul, incredible. Too much perfection. Like, one of the best dancers of all time.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Amazing catalog. Amazing. Who was the athlete you were obsessed with, Blair? An athlete for me when I was young or? When you were young. Yeah, or like a seminal, foundational athlete obsession that you had. I mean, like, I loved volleyball players, obviously. I wanted to be a professional beach volleyball player.
Starting point is 01:00:50 So I love like Holly McPeak and Missy and, you know, all these people that probably no one on earth has ever heard of. I love like, I love Serena Williams. I still love Serena Williams to this day. I'm like, oh my God, she's a bad bitch. And she has this husband too. When I think about this all the time, she has a husband who I literally just would do anything on earth for her. Just thinks the sun sets and rises with her. It's incredible. sunsets and rises with her it's incredible um that has nothing to do with her sports but she deserves it all um and then men i liked so many weird like when i was young i loved all the little guys like little guys in big player sports like i loved steve nash i thought he was incredible was that because you were like a smaller player amongst the super tall middle blockers of your volleyball team?
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yes, of course. I've seen any little guy like Reggie Bush or Maurice. What's his name? Drew, is it Miles? Yep, MD20. I love tiny little running backs and point guards. Right. I was a little weird.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I liked a guy by the name of michael jordan yeah okay hipster oh my god hipster jack oh god i was into him before the championships yeah like that's how that's how into it i was that's not even true i was into him like the season they won the championship i was into it when he was only on vinyl yeah that's when he was cool i was into it when like he was listening to those uh songs on headphones and with a umbrella do you know that picture anyways i don't know if you were if you remember that one animal collective tour where he was like opening for them and like people like who is this guy and i was like he's next dude he's next but people just want to forget about
Starting point is 01:02:45 that yeah but other i think like my main ones too were like gwen stefania and tlc because you know when you're in middle school is when you're in that deep and high school probably too but like middle school you're really into that deep like fandom where you can like yeah you just put these people on giant pedestals you know right yeah and deck out your locker and binder with it so mine was wu-tang clan tyra banks and probably heady jones or nick vanex heady jones wow yes you know because back then i was like oh heady please give me life but yeah yeah, it's always interesting. Again, like you're saying,
Starting point is 01:03:28 I think in a way, instantly you can find common ground with people and be like, wow, you were into that? That was your celebrity obsession? And I already feel like I'm knowing you better. Miles, have you ever dug deep and reached out to a celebrity or seen a celebrity?
Starting point is 01:03:44 I remember when I was seven years old, I saw Howard Johnson, the baseball player, the Mets baseball player. I just remember going up to him and being like, hey man, I'm such a huge fan.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I could tell he didn't believe me, which is true because I wasn't. I didn't even like, which is true because I like wasn't. I didn't even like the Mets. I wanted him to think that I liked him. And yeah, he was kind of a dick considering that I was seven. But I didn't think that at the time. I was just like, I should just be true to myself.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I shouldn't tell these Mets players that I like them. Fucking Howard Johnson. Guy's a hack. It's confusing in this business when to say something at this point sometimes when i meet someone like i've loved a long time like i really have to feel the vibe where i'm like if we connect first or something and then it just comes out and it's authentic but then otherwise i feel like you know these people are always getting this shit but then at the same time what i like about this is that no matter how famous you are or who you are, like everyone's a fan of someone, you know?
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, at the time, it's funny that one time I did a thing like you, Jack, where I I just because the person was so famous. I was like, fuck, I don't know what else to say to them. Aside from I'm a big fan was when I met the wrestler Kane. I was like, fuck, I don't know what else to say to them.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Aside from I'm a big fan was when I met the wrestler came when I went. But I was really waiting to meet the rock. But Kane came out. Oh, man, big fan, big fan. He's like, thanks. He'd have his mask on. It was like, oh, my God, Kane doesn't have a mask on. And he's like, very normal looking guy.
Starting point is 01:05:22 But really, I was like, man, get the where's the fucking rock, bro? Like, right. Get him out here. Please step aside. Yeah. And then practiced. You're like vulnerable. I'm your biggest fan.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I'm your biggest fan, Dwayne. He's like, I'm Kane. I'm like, yeah, I'm Kane. Kane. Kane. The Rock Johnson. But the other time there is this band called War Paint that I really like. And they I was when I used to work at concerts.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I remember I was working in a bar at this concert. It was a Portishead concert. And the whole group War Paint was there to see Portishead. But they were all together like as one. And I was like, oh, my God, they're like right here. And I was like managing the bar at the time was like the drinks around me. And I was like, I'm a really huge fan of y'all. And they thought I was bullshitting because I was like just some dude like working in this bar and they thought i was foolish and i was like no i seriously like i started like them like undertoes like one of my favorite tracks i'm like
Starting point is 01:06:12 oh they're like thank you so much and it was wholly unsatisfying for me because they looked at me like who the fuck is this person and yeah so yeah that sucks it sucks mixed reaction it sucks when you put yourself out there like that especially if it was coming from your heart damn miles i'm sorry about that no it's all good i've healed from it i've healed okay you know yeah i've healed from it yeah it is a lesson in expecting not expecting things back like sometimes i have to really check myself i'm like why am i saying this is it because i want them to i'm expressing love right now or it's because i'm intending to get something back and i don't want to do it to expect to get anything back it right like the other time when i when i used to work in radio and i would meet rappers
Starting point is 01:06:57 that i really liked i would say like the deepest cut thing about them that i knew to try and establish my fan cred like off rip because i didn't want to be like, hey, man, respect. I really like what you do. I like met Ludacris. I'm like, there's two versions of Southern Hospitality. One of the instrumentals clearly has a different bass drum than the ones you heard on the radio. Why is that? And he's like, what? And I was like, never mind. That is not the way to go. Yeah, like fuck man hey here's something that i noticed that you might not even know about your own work uh yeah so what's up we're we're thinking he was like no he's like yeah he's like pharrell had two versions and then we both decided we'd like the other one better and i was like oh that's so cool yeah but then his security was like, oh, that's so cool. Yeah. But then the security was like, man, get this fucking dude out of here.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I love you. Please, Luna. All right. Well, the show is Dear Owen Wilson. Everybody needs to go check it out. Blair, as always, such a pleasure having you, talking to you. Where can people find you, follow you, and all that good stuff? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I just want to thank you for having me on. you talking to you where can people find you follow you and all that good stuff oh my god i just want to thank you for having me on we're going into like i don't know year three or four of this of me being a guest and it's just always such a pleasure and a joy every time always a delight you can follow me at blair sake on twitter and instagram and if any of you are interested, I have a Breathwork class, online class, this coming Thursday. Would love to have you there.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And also, I'm doing an hour on June 6th, a stand-up comedy at the Elysian Theater in LA with Carmen Christopher and Greta Teitelman, if you want to come. Damn. Yeah. Love Greta Teitelman, if you want to come. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Love Greta. Love breath work. What kind of breath work are we doing? What you got going on? It's not if you have bad breath, Jack. Oh. You can come if you have bad breath because it's just online. It will probably look for it.
Starting point is 01:09:00 It could probably expel some demons. No, what breath work is, is a a physical active meditation so a lot of times people when they think of meditation they're trying to silence their thoughts and if they're not a regular meditator it becomes really frustrating experience but with breathwork it's very physical breathing technique so you're so in your body you're sort of not even focused on your thoughts so a lot of people can access a lot of things deeper and be in their body in a way that they wouldn't be able to otherwise. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:09:35 Oh my God, you guys, I laughed so hard at this tweet. I searched all over the internet for it this morning. I couldn't find it. But someone tweeted a picture of michael richards and said during his laugh factory like famous episode that got him canceled and said oh crazy opener for millennia and um millennia crazy the craziest opener at the millennia show and it made me laugh so hard but i forget who tweeted it it was show and it made me laugh so hard. I forget who tweeted it. It was hilarious.
Starting point is 01:10:07 God, it made me laugh hard. Miles, where can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? As a reference, what didn't Chappelle open for Mulaney? Yeah, in Ohio. It was from at a single father
Starting point is 01:10:23 tweeted that. It just said, I'm at a John Mulaney show and the opener is kind of out of pocket. I literally laughed out loud when I saw that. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Okay, my back. My back. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Also, check out the basketball podcast, miles and jack out mad boosies. We're speaking of fans meeting their favorite people. We got to speak with Robert Borey last week of the Lakers, big shot, Bob, and you can hear it in our voices. The excitement is through the roof. It's also like the person I was is just like the best possible guest for that show,
Starting point is 01:11:03 because like, it's all about the show is all about people doing like otherworldly things that like you can't really explain and like the fact that he was just always there hitting huge shots and just it's it's and we're just like it's so interesting to talk to him yeah but like that's basically like i've always wondered like wait what how how is how is he possible right and he turns out to be like one of the nicest people so it's a great episode go check it out that's so cool let's see let's see some tweets that i like uh also for 20 day fiance check that one out too with sophia alexandra first one's from molly lambert at molly lambert tweeted we want grandchildren sorry hope you like podcasts uh it's very great at bay su b tweeted drinks dr pepper
Starting point is 01:11:53 barbecue sprite and i was like yes thank you you put it all together for me and then at kinky bandit tweeted dasani water tastes like it's been sitting in a water gun. Hey, that's my favorite bottled water, by the way. I know, which is wild. No, it can't be, Jack. It is. No, it can't be, Jack. I don't know why. It's just always like drinking out of a water gun.
Starting point is 01:12:18 It's always tasted like water to me for some reason. So I just like that. I've always just had that cold Dasani. There must be something wrong with me. It doesn't make any sense. You're a masochist, Jack.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Yeah. I'm a sick fuck. I mean, I told you. Into Jordan and Dasani bottled water? Get him out of here. Get him out of here. The genius of that tweet though is just taking the sensation that everyone knows which is who among us when your first water gun to go what if i just started drinking shit out of here yeah and then you're like what the fuck is
Starting point is 01:12:54 all this plastic and shit some tweets i've been enjoying tim barnes this is just a good point ironically covid would be a better name for Zoom. I also really liked the barbecue, Dr. Pepper, or barbecue Sprite. I also liked this from Hideo Noho. Just tweeted, yes, today, Satan. I feel like I hadn't heard anyone say that. But sometimes it is time to just say yes to Satan. Thank you. And by the way, Hideo Noho is at Miles of Grey.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Oh, shit. Honor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should check him out. Yeah, there's an interesting thing about that tweet, actually, if I could just take a couple seconds. Yeah, could you actually dig deep? Let's do a behind the music of that tweet.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Oh, how much time you got? You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Starting point is 01:14:05 about today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy i think my voice just like entered into a carnival or like a what's that like um auctioneer i think that was the closest my voice has ever come to be in an auctioneer anyways miles what is the song oh yeah hey we got a new track called entanglement this is a track called entanglement from the group soccer 96 which is a duo from the uk that it's like you know they're like one of these groups or it's very hard to put your finger on the genre but they're clearly influenced by super interesting like people like damo Suzuki, like, who's a front man of Cannes, if you know that German prog band. But this track, Entanglement, it just sounds like, I don't know, like, if a Teddy Ruxpin, like, you put a weird tape in it, like, a funky tape in it,
Starting point is 01:14:56 and it got horny and was on LSD, this is what would be coming out the Teddy Ruxpin. All right, I'm in. That's how I feel. That's a great description. So this is called Entanglement by Soccer96. And also, like, in addition to being really being really you know making this a really interesting song are they finally giving up on the name and they're like telling the rest of europe that it's it's soccer it's not i don't know football i mean i think because they're from london they're from london it's. It's ironic. They know it's weird to call a soft girl.
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