The Daily Zeitgeist - Our Dumb Apocalypse, Best Movie/TV/Games So Far 2022 07.05.22

Episode Date: July 5, 2022

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by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 244, episode 1 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it's Tuesday, July 5th, 2022.

Everybody in the United States is feeling that long weekend. Oh, yeah. End of the long weekend, first day back uh i don't know about everybody listening but i i just feel great at that point i'm always just like yeah no i feel terrible so hopefully uh we're recording this before the long weekend so hopefully you can you know via osmosis take some of their long weekend vibes. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Drink Dew Until I Die. Let's chase that sugar high.

Oh, that is Nicki Minaj's Starships repurposed to describe my weekend, which is going to be a lot of slamming dews. Hell yeah, slamming some, Matt slamming dues. Hell yeah. Slamming some, uh, Matt slamming mountains of dew. There you go. Yeah. Yeah.

Probably not. I might have like half of a mountain dew. I feel terrible. My, my body shuts down if I drink too much mountain dew at this point. Yeah. But I'm 41. Hey,

uh, I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest co-host as mentioned not on the ones and twos he's on the ones and fuck yous the king of sting don't let that last name fool you because he's a bad man it's dj daniel goodman dj daniel aka gonna eat 20 hot dogs this weekend that's the plan i was gonna say hot dog hangover, but since we've already broken the fourth wall of a recording on Friday and it's not actually Tuesday, well then, shoot. I plan on eating those hot dogs.

You got that little sweat, that dusting of sweat. I guess it's not dusting. A bugger lip when you're like, oh yeah. A light sheen. A misting of sweat on the brow that only the addict knows when they are about to score their big 20 hot dogs.

You nailed it. But also, speaking of Mountain Dews, I was at the old Rite Aid yesterday and just happened to be perusing the fridge department and found the lone single bottle of mountain dubaha blast yeah and i mean did you see the other blasts that they've added no they only had i have i mean i've seen them i've seen them on the internets because you know i stay perusing for new mountain dubaha blast flavors but i saw the lone bottle and you know i blasted

off did you you know of course of course and i you And I didn't go to bed until like 2 in the morning, but that's how it goes when you drink a bottle. I feel good for like 15 minutes afterwards, and then I crash and can't get out of bed for a couple days. There you go. But I have taste tested both new Baja's Blast. I think we're going to. Indeed. I think we're going to. Attorney's General Baja's Blast.

Yeah, we're going to Attorney's General Baja Blast. I think that's the only right way to do it well daniel we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a former games industry project manager turned full-time content creator from northern ireland you can find her on i heart radio uh whatever that podcast boss level or you can find her on twitch flying through the cosmos please welcome psyche hi hello i'm so excited to be here i'm psyche aka i guess i have to have an aka so aka the gayest witch on twitch because someone once called me that but i think they were trying to insult me and didn't realize that I actually took it as kind of a compliment. Sorry, say it again. The gayest witch on Twitch?

The gayest witch on Twitch. He said, and I quote, you are the biggest, gayest woman I have ever seen and you kind of look like a witch. Nice. And I was like, thank you. That's like three compliments in one. But yeah, I think you're a gay as well.

Yeah, superlatives in there, like the biggest, the gayest. I mean, that's pretty impressive, right? It is. I'm impressed. Take my crown, please. Yeah, I'll take that. That's fine. How is Northern Ireland? What's the weather like over there? It's wet. It's really, really wet.

the weather over there it's wet really really wet i love the fact that i can look at my like little weather thing on uh my desktop and it has like rain coming and that's what it says right now but the other day it was like rain sunshine rain sunshine rain on and off it ended up settling because it just couldn't decide but it's like never mind forget it all the time like that's just the way it is. That's amazing. Sounds about right. Sounds about right. And I mean, hopefully it doesn't inhibit your ability to celebrate 4th of July this weekend. Oh yeah, we do a lot of that here.

Your favorite holiday. You know, it's funny you say that, but like, actually, I think we might have some American neighbors because 4th of July, we moved into this house like two years ago my first fourth of july like i never noticed it's coming obviously because it's not celebrated here but we had people setting off fireworks and i was like what's that for and then i looked at the date and i was like oh so i think we do actually have some american neighbors it's also illegal to set off fireworks here but they do it anyway that was my next that was my next question yeah you need to have a license. Nobody does. Apparently, nobody cares either.

It still happens. Still okay in the United States, which is so dry that a single misplaced firework can just set the whole country on fire. But we still got to do it.

That's the way it is. Just blow shit up. Kids in the middle of the street in Los Angeles, California, just blowing things up, setting off car alarms. It's great. The one time I experimented with big fireworks was when I lived in Missouri. I was picking my friend up at the Kansas City airport,

driving back, and I had turned off the part of my brain that notices these things because i was living in the middle of missouri and was just like yeah that's missouri but my friend was like hey we've passed like 40 warehouses that all advertise like having the biggest cheapest best fireworks should we like do something with that and so we got a bunch of fireworks set them off in a park in the middle of the night well very drunk and it was one of the most fun things i've ever done in my life so i will like our younger listeners don't just remove this from your brain but yeah like i i had always looked down upon the uh fireworks culture and then I did it and I was like, oh, right, because you're

blowing things up and it's awesome. Exactly. Get to make your own little Baz Luhrmann film. All right. Well, I like it. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about something that you're probably not familiar with, Psyche, but that I probably need to get familiar with and DJ Dan all as well. Water Wars. They're not like a fun squirt gun themed birthday party, but like actual wars over water are coming to the suburbs of Arizona. And I think the rest of the country will soon follow so we're going to talk about that way that this is all very patriotic and fourth of july themed we're

going to talk about that way the country's getting worse we're going to talk about republicans getting google's permission to spam everyone just like ruin your inbox uh so that's what one way the country's getting worse and we're also going to talk about some pop culture we're going to get to like maybe half of that i don't know we'll see it's a silly it's going to be a silly episode we can skip to the pop culture part we'll find yeah yeah we might just get directly to the pop culture thing i want i want to talk about rrr top gun maverick by the two most notable movies i've seen so far this year rrr probably my favorite movie i've seen so far this year top gun maverick america's favorite movie that they've seen so far this year so i just want to

talk about those all of that plenty more but first psyche we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history okay i have okay do you want to know the most recent or do you want to know the most telling about me as a person they're both kind of telling about me as a person i'll probably tell you both all right let's do it okay so my most recent that i think is kind of interesting i googled what is the metaverse because i feel like i know what the metaverse is but then i kind of felt like it it almost feels like it's just a synonym for cyberspace and i thought that can't be all there is to it there's got to be more to it and then i googled and i did a lot of extensive research and really it comes down to that kind of is all there is to

it and i was a bit disappointed and i'm like, do I still kind of just not get it? Or like, what's going on there? Yeah, I think you're 100% right about that. That's all it is. We've had these spaces for decades. But no, it's like a space where you can exist with an avatar and like be yourself, but like with a costume on. Yeah, like Second Life. I'm sorry.

It's like second life exactly second life where like i literally remember i'm so sorry this is kind of inappropriate but i remember the most like formative memory i have of second life was this random person who clearly had too much time and too much money came up to me and gave me a helicopter and a gun and the helicopter was super cool the gun fired let's just say weird representations of genitalia out of it so okay which was a very second life thing to happen right so right extremely so yeah much less acceptable in first life uh i had people helicopters and guns that fire dicks yeah Yeah, pretty much, literally. And I, of course, being, I was quite innocent, I hadn't really spent,

I'd spent some time on the internet, but not a ton of time on the internet. The first thing I did with the gun was I fired it, and it just started firing out this stream of dicks. And I was just like, I don't know what to do with it. So I feel like I Googled it. The reason I actually Googled it was because I'd had multiple companies that approached me and had clearly they've learned that the metaverse has a bit of a bad reputation.

And they were approaching me about these interesting opportunities and they were not being very specific about what it was. And then halfway through the email chain, they would kind of produce the, by the way, it's on the metaverse. And I'd be like, oh, no. Okay, okay i'm gonna google because like what's going on here right so that was that um yeah i feel like there's always when you when you read companies like pr like and like all the stuff they're talking about like the official strategy and like what we're doing and uh what our company's footprint is this coming year and

the media landscape they love they're excited about the metaverse i don't i haven't met a single person who's like actually it's pretty cool it's like better than you might think like not a single one no i've met people who will ride for literally anything who are like, actually Dave Matthews bands, like secretly one of the best bands, but they will not ride for the, I can't find the person who rides for the metaverse. Zeitgang, if you are out there,

if somebody is like, you know, like people are, we're too hard on the metaverse, uh, let us know. But I do think it just completely and unequivocally sucks and it's just mark zuckerberg is frozen at the peak of his uh success and fame and is like wait a second like

he's still interested and impressed by things that would have been more impressive to people like in the year 2008 yeah i'm I'm truly I'm really open minded. Like if someone can come up with a really great use case for it or like some reason I should care. I am so there. I'm totally fine with that. I will completely revise my opinion. But no one has been able to do that so far. So I'm just sitting here going.

Right. Yeah. And I feel like they wouldn't even let somebody hand you a helicopter and a gun that fires dicks. It sounds like you were a child at the time and it was like a grown up who did that. I was a middle teenager. So yeah, still a child. So maybe they shouldn't be allowed to. They probably shouldn't be.

So I'm not going to complain about that. Maybe I should shut up about that. Should I tell you my second one as well? Yeah, let's do it. Yes, yes. So I do a lot of writing outside of like streaming and gaming and stuff. And one of the probably best descriptions of me as a human being and probably why I'm definitely on a list somewhere. I frequently Google weird stuff because I'm writing something.

And one thing I Googled once and my partner yelled at me, he was like, you can't just search for things like that. It was, how many stab wounds does it take to kill a person? Yeah. I'm like, obviously, I don't want to know for me. But like, I mean, is it a case of it? Like, it doesn't matter if you get like 53 in the foot. Is that going to kill you?

Or does it have to be in somewhere vital? You know, I need to know these things for writing purposes. It's not for any other reason. It does sound like a very video game logic to the human body. It's like, okay, so 53 strikes, doesn't matter where I hit them. I may play too many video games. Mid-maxing our stabs. Yeah, right?

You get it. Very much so. I wish we could cut to the last person who Googled that, and they're just standing there with a bloody knife in their hand just being like, hmm, hmm, hmm. And they're not looking at me and going, hmm. Wait, so I'm at 23 right now. What are we looking at? How many more do I need? Mid-stabbing Google.

Yeah. All right. What is something you think is overrated? Alright. Look, we're coming to, well, we're already at the end of Pride Month, so speaking as a bisexual person, rainbow capitalism. Pride Month just ended and literally you could see from the 30th of June into the 1st of July

literally in real time, watching corporations changing their profile pictures back to their standard picture instead of it being their pride picture or whatever. And that just, I don't know, it feels kind of like you're expected as a queer person to just give them a high five or a gold star or something

and let them just off with not caring about queer people the rest of the year. And that's nonsense. Super over overrated really annoys me yeah do they have like an interstitial in between where they're like enough of that shit and go back to like yes that's the message so weird because i actually okay not to give corporations too much credit because like i hate doing that but at the same time i did see a really good example where intel for anyone who doesn't know tech company known very well for their processors and also there was another company i've forgotten who it was but um they

made intel made a tweet where they basically said we don't like at the beginning of pride month we don't need to change our profile picture because we've had a pride profile picture all year round we don't see the point in changing it just just for june which i thought was quite nice and like xbox has their pride controllers and they they were actually like super vocally arguing with people in their comments on twitter about like people who are saying oh nobody wants to see this and they were like yeah nobody wants your opinion and you still felt the need to express it so like i like that they're doing that again don't want to give corporations too much credit because obviously it's still for money but i still think that's pretty cool and it's nice seeing things like that but you can you see the difference

where you just watch them ticking off like everyone's changing back to normal it's just wild right i think there's definitely kinds of engagement like you're saying there's engagement that definitely positively supports the message because there's you know the pure rainbow capitalism is just like buy our shirt because we put a rainbow on it. Yes. But then there's the let's use this as an opportunity to spread good information, to promote, you know, creators and promote, you know, people who are company sponsors that deserve an extra light. to go about it that despite it being in the umbrella of rainbow capitalism at least you know participates in the support of the history of the month and like why it is happening and why it is important versus just you know kind of what you're saying so that intel's doing that the xbox is doing that i also saw bungie doing something similar to the creators of destiny yeah bungie

like just really going in on being like destiny and bunch of games are for everybody people like we don't need this. And they're like, we don't need you. Is kind of the, that's the way to do it. Being a lot more active and also having some of these companies that actually go out of their way outside of June to actively promote people that are LGBTQIA+, for example, or like outside Black History Month promoting black content creators and people that they work with

and not making it be about like this person is a minority. It's more this person does cool shit and we don't get to see it enough. And that's really, really cool. So there are companies doing well. And then there are companies that are just not making any effort whatsoever.

They've got like a scheduled thing to change their profile picture and a scheduled thing to turn it back off again. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. what is something you think is underrated i'm gonna probably tell you too much about myself but i think going to lunch or dinner solo i think is super underrated i need alone time to recharge and i think there's this really weird stigma about like not going places on your own and when i when i worked in the games industry i used to be like my brain was constantly active and having even just like a 45 minute break where i could go and treat myself to something nice to eat and just spend time with

myself was really really powerful and i think that goes for things like going to the movies by yourself everyone looks at you funny but who cares by myself i do too i'm like i think it's great and i think you know what if i want to go see a movie and my partner doesn't want to go and whatever like i'll i'll go by myself i think it's great yeah i totally support that definitely i've like recently realized like i need to start scheduling because i'm the same i i don't know. Is there like official psychological literature on the like introverts need to be alone to recharge? Because it definitely feels true for me. But it feels that way. Yeah.

I don't know if there's anything actually official or if like because I know a lot of the resources that are related to like introvert versus extrovert are kind of problematic. Right. Yeah. They're all like from some company that created it to be, like, better capital drone. But, yeah, I have realized that, like, I need to make plans. Like, I had a thing where we, like, went with another family on, like, a road trip for a weekend. And I was, like, never alone for the whole weekend. And then I came back and, like, the whole week whole week I was just like dead and had no energy.

And so now I'm like realizing like I need to like actually not just be like notice it, but to actually like plan around it. And like have like, but, you know, set some alone time aside, even if it's just like an afternoon or whatever. I totally get that. Yeah. Yeah. Full support on that one. And also on a very like, not brain helpful,

but just kind of scheduling helpful, way easier to get into restaurants. Let me just say. That's true. If you want to go to a busy place, go by yourself. Yeah, that's true. Grab a single seat.

It's incredible. You want to sit at the bar at a sushi place? Easy. New ramen spot? Get that single spot. Yeah. It's great. Oh, the bar at the sushi spot. I'm thinking they're going to want to sit at the bar at a sushi place? Easy. New ramen spot. Get that single spot. Yeah. It's great. Oh, the bar at the sushi spot.

I'm thinking they're going to want to talk to me. Oh, that's true. I hate that. Yeah. I'm like, I want to. Do you have anything like back by the bathroom facing the wall? In the shadows somewhere. Yeah, exactly.

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And we're back. And yeah, so there's a New Yorker article. I have to talk about it every time I read a New Yorker article. It gives me a sense of pride that is built into me from when I was much younger. And I've noticed that I just do this every time. I'm like, oh, well, read that New Yorker article. This better be a story on the Daily Psycho. But anyways, it was a compelling article that, you know, we've talked about the crumbling water supply in the United States, how much it comes from the

Colorado River in the southwestern United States. And there was an article, like I have, you know, tried to imagine what that's going to look like in my own you know world and neighborhood and this article does a really good job of kind of telling us it's a you know neighborhood in scottsdale arizona where people like they basically like can't get water there the normal way so people either have water delivered on a truck monthly if they can afford it um some have spent tens of thousands of dollars drilling wells and the article actually opens with this person talking about how their neighbor just got done putting a 960 foot dry hole in like which means they drilled 960 feet into the ground and there was just like no water

down there but yeah and then you know so then some people like organized a like water consortium and then everybody like people started like criticizing them it's mostly looks like you know sniping on facebook and stuff like that but the the details that jumped out to me are just, first of all, it's not changing. After all the discussions that this writer had with this planned community of people and how they already have way too many people in this area, they were driving down the community's mostly unpaved roads and like saw dozens of new houses under construction like people are just you know we're just we're gonna keep driving in the same direction until the car we're in is engulfed in flames at the bottom of the ravine

we just drove off of like that's just the way. There will be fireworks in the trunk, so it'll look cool as hell when it happens. Explosive and sick. And then there's just like a lot of faith in the old way of doing things and like that, well, the old bones of the system is gonna work out for us. There's still people like putting in like offers

on all these houses that are being built and they're like well they're not gonna let a community in like one of the most wealthy towns in arizona like go without water and it's like well there's surely not not gonna be water for you guys what the fuck are you talking about it also just feels like a good metaphor for like a couple of the like we're facing a similar thing in a couple of important places like a broken system that is only getting more broken but we're like too afraid to abandon like the democratic party i don't know i'm like just digging deeper and deeper into the like completely dry sand, searching for the energy that used to be there and coming up dry. It just felt like this is a story about right now in a community in Arizona,

but it's a story about kind of everything in America right now. This reminds me so deeply of like the idea of, of procrastination and that that like, you know, I think we convince ourselves sometimes that like getting the task started is harder than the actual task itself. Yeah. And unfortunately, the longer we wait on stuff like this, the bar for that task just gets higher and the task itself does get harder. Yeah. And it's a just needing to get started kind of thing that seems so difficult for, like you said, to really get going. I mean, like any politics in this country, but like it's it's just these kinds of things.

Like you said, it's not going to change. The old way is not going to come back. And I think the sooner that people start to understand and accept that, we could get over that initial procrastination hurdle and actually maybe start to make progress. Because if we just keep going this way, like you said, fireworks, ravine, explosion. That's right. Fireworks, ravine, explosion.

Yeah. How does it look from Northern Ireland, Psyche? So it's weird. I feel like I can see parallels in some ways. Now, granted, not with something like water. As an example, whenever this is so weird, but the only time I've ever experienced like trouble having actual water was in 2010. We had a really, really bad snowstorm.

And like Ireland doesn't tend to get like particularly extreme weather. But we had like a blizzard. My roof like was leaking everything. doesn't tend to get like particularly extreme weather but we had real like a blizzard my roof like was leaking everything we had people running their water uh 24 7 to try and stop the pipes from freezing which obviously is a problem and in ireland a place that rains literally all the time yeah we started to run out of water and our water supplies were really like dwindling super super fast so we had water rationing and we had trucks coming and delivering water. I lived in a village at the time and a truck came and delivered water and people could go down and collect water at that.

Because it was just in the center of the village. And I still remember my friend at the time who lived in the countryside having to get water from a stream. And I was just like, what is happening? Like this country, it rains all the time and then suddenly there's a snowstorm and now we have no water what is going on because obviously that's not how it works and infrastructure is actually like not built for x then it can't provide what it's supposed to provide anymore right so from from my perspective i see this and i think i do think it's wild but you talk about how um the the old ways aren't working anymore and that you kind of need like get past that before you can start moving forward and

that's definitely something that like i can see a kind of mirror image of that in northern ireland in our politics because we have like a i'm not going to get into it in depth but there's we have a very interesting there's many many parties in northern ireland but there are two in particular who just cannot work together because they have a power share government they can't work together so they just don't get anything done which means that there's tons of things happening like bits of things are falling apart and like at the moment we there's some supplies we cannot get because of various like customs checks and stuff and they just can't get together to agree on something so that we can move forward and get it done yeah the the thing i feel like i've seen and i've i've read about in situations like the snowstorm you're mentioning is that when people are put into those

crisis situations like they surprise themselves and like the community around them surprises them with like how well people come together and just like fill the hole and do the thing that needs to get done so that people have water and that's that's something that like i i guess i i didn't have kind of associated with this story in my mind but i do think like that is once everybody's willing to just be like all right well that's dead like now it's on us like what do we what do we do now i think we're going to surprise ourselves with like the the creativity that we're able to come up with but i do think people do surprise you in a crisis situation for sure. Yeah. So I don't think it's as hopeless as sometimes it feels like it just we eventually are going to come to the point where it's like, well, that is no longer there. Right. Like that water, water infrastructure or Democratic Party no longer works works no longer can work what what do we do now yeah well let's

talk about another thing that uh american capitalism is ruined and that is email because so it's just it's basically like i don't know i i want to ask the question like what can't capitalism ruin is there anything that is not going to be ruined by capitalism nothing sacred nothing yeah truly like so basically the latest development is that like google was banning was like you know identifying political ads and sending them to spam filters and a republican by the name of dr ronnie johnson who you might remember i think that's or ronnie jackson jackson ah you might remember is the guy who gave everybody drugs in the white house like was the um oh was the drug dealer for like i think

both the obama white house and oh my god and the trump white house and uh dr feelgood yeah he was dr feelgood that was his nickname and then he i think he got drunk and wrecked a government vehicle at a secret service going away party legacy so sick so like like trump was like we want him to head the va i think and everyone's like wait what what do you mean that that guy's like basically you're a drug dealer why would why would he head the va he doesn't have any sort of like mass administrative experience and then he got drunk i i think like just part of him was like oh oh, man, I'm in way over my head. I better do what old Dr. Ronnie Jacks does when he's in over his head and get drunk and wreck a government vehicle. And so that was the end of all that. elected in 2020, made headlines for claiming that the Omicron variant was a conspiracy concocted by the Democrats. And he was also noticing that his emails that he kept sending out to the people he

was trying to get to give him money were getting sent to spam. And so he went on a rant about how google's gmail was actively suppressing republican emails and sending them to the spam folder which he claimed was a form of election interference and like a new north carolina state university study actually did find republican emails were more likely to go to spam folders in Gmail than other services like Outlook. But it's less a conspiracy and more that Republicans send a lot of bad spam, which we've known. Trump's campaign has sent out emails using misleading subject lines that read as a message from friends or family and like subject lines that appear to be an email bounce back notification like just all the like phishing tactics just go hard as hard as you can to get as much money from these people as you can

but the democrats do this shit too like there was was a... I was just going to say. Yeah, the Democrats just sent out a final notice. May Democrat membership pending. May Democratic membership pending? I'm sorry. I didn't remember signing up in the first place. You have 17 missed messages to renew your Democratic membership, bro.

This is your final notice to renew your democratic membership bro this is your final notice to renew your membership before tonight's critic a critical end of month deadline that is from the democratic party pretty bad yeah it sucks but anyways they sued google to be like you're doing bad stuff and google was like all right i don't know whatever fine we we uh so basically now they can like apply for it it's a bill that seeks to make it illegal for email service providers to automatically put campaign messages into the spam folder pilot program for political parties to bypass bypass spam detection systems so yeah it's just like because they are powerful the republican party is able to reach out to google and get them to let let let them like ruin

your inbox you know on this this this really feels like kind of a like a weighing of a weighing of priorities thing for google here because i know we've all seen those like senate hearings or whatever where they're basically grilling is it sundar pichai who's the ceo of google basically grilling him on so does my phone know where i am right if i go sit on the other side is it gonna know that i'm sitting with with my with there are friends on the left over here and he's like you you have to turn on location services. Like answer the question. And it feels like this whole like spam thing,

I don't think they necessarily or Google necessarily sees it as a problem. Like what you're saying. They're just like, yeah, fine, whatever. Just send your damn emails. It doesn't matter. Because, you know, it all just mixes in with every other email that people are getting.

Like every day, I feel like I'm unsubscribing to lists I didn't even know that I was on. And then three days later, I'm getting another email from that same thing. And it's like, well, you need it to allow 10 days for that unsubscription to go through. So we'll keep sending you emails for the next 10 days. And it's like, it just keeps piling on to the point where it's like, I have like two or three emails that I need to check per day, basically. I mean, like, there's there's more this is personal email work emails are different but there's like three actual personal emails that i need to check a day maximum out of the maybe 30 or 40 that i get right and it just it just it does not feel like a problem to i mean to our

our email providers yeah they don't give a fuck about them. Because we are not their constituent. The corporations are their constituent. They're there to keep things moving smoothly. And yeah, it's just bad. I feel like it's just interesting to think about all the technologies that capitalism has ruined. Like email was useful and a great idea for a few years and then it got flooded with spam.

And like it's just like an arms race between like marketers and the technology companies to like, you know, keep it from making their product unusual, unusable. making their product unusual, unusable. But then the big technology companies eventually get worn down or they get, you know, so successful that they have friends in high places. You know, I used to work for a website that like made, wrote articles, list articles that were full of content and were not like, did not have ads that were like following you around and tracking which direction your eyeball was looking and now like any it's to the point that like when i read articles not on just like random websites but on like news articles it's like they have the most deceptive ads that are like there to trick you into clicking on them at all costs. Like even at the cost of continuing to read the article you were there to read.

Like it's just it's wild. It's all broken. And it's yeah, it's all it just is the evolution of all technologies. It seems like. Yeah, definitely. I feel like I don't know. I mentioned this on my stream the other day because I feel maybe I'm just really cynical, definitely i feel like i don't know i i mentioned this on my stream the other day because i i feel maybe i'm just really cynical but i feel like social media as

a whole has changed so very very much from like when it first started i feel like i don't really understand and i don't think it's just because i'm getting older because i feel like that's the immediate like jump to is that oh yeah as you as you get older social media makes less sense but like I've been on social media since its inception and I just feel like not I like I don't understand Instagram anymore I feel like I don't know what it wants from me I don't it like I don't know what to put I'm constantly plagued with ads and it's half the time it's stuff that's like creepily relevant to me and then the other other half, it's like, I don't even know why you think I would want to see this. So I don't I don't really feel like I understand how to engage with it. It's not the same as it was before, if that makes sense.

That's what the best and brightest minds of the past 20 years have been working on is making making Twitter. is making making uh twitter and well i i feel like twitter like is the thing that has saved it is that they suck at marketing like the ads aren't like ever relevant and so they're easy to skip but like instagram you know the best and brightest minds instead of like building our infrastructure rebuilding or fixing u.s infrastructure or we'll talk about that infrastructure around the country they go into marketing work for these massive you know technology companies and find ways to market like that's that is the big evolution of the past 20 years is like marketing has gotten way better for brands, not for humans. It has taken away our free will, that minor pesky thing. Good old free will. I also feel like we're kind of in an arms race of efficiency in that like email used to be good because it was quick and it was like,

I can send you a letter over the internet. But nowadays, it's like you're competing with Slack, with Discord, with text messages about like getting messages to people. And so there's this like need to make your email so urgent. It's like you're saying, it's like you have to sign up now. Urgent, Mr. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's like email is quickly losing relevance at all. And it's like these kinds of, I mean, I guess it's, it's interesting to see. I mean, I will say, you know, I'm typing stop into my phone so often these days from

whatever political text messaging that I'm getting being like, hey, this is Nancy Pelosi, and we really need to talk. I'm just like, stop. But it's, it's like, as they look for new venues to kind of like grab your attention in this kind of like market of instantaneous interaction it's like email is really phasing out and so i think the spam thing is almost kind of in that last desperate attempt to hold on to this kind of archaic technology yeah and and may yeah just like the last i think that's probably also what's happening is google is like, well, nobody fucking uses Gmail anymore. Sure. Exactly. Whatever. We're working on a new technology where, you know, in two years we'll be recording this podcast over Zoom and Nancy Pelosi will join and she'll join the chat. to join the chat exactly yeah we see we have a really really great thing in northern ireland i'm i'm not even like i realize again i sound so cynical but in northern ireland we're so behind

like businesses are behind politics is behind we don't use email here like we obviously we use email for like online communication but i mean, our political parties don't use email. They don't use social media. They don't have a website half the time. They're really behind. It's so weird. It's something as simple as having a business that you want. Like my hairdresser or my tattoo artist, I want to book something and they take all of their bookings through Facebook.

And I'm like, I don't have a Facebook anymore. I got rid of it a long time ago. Can I call you or email you or something do you have a website with a contact like none no businesses here have that and like political parties I still get just leaflets through my mailbox I don't get a digital version of it I still get leaflets yeah yeah for sure I get leaflets but they also yeah my see they don't i just think they don't know email exists i'm not trying to be super super cynical i swear i know that that's like it goes against the fact that i'm always arguing with people that yes in fact in northern ireland

we do have the internet and electricity and cars because some people seem to think we don't but like at the same time businesses and like the as far as the government is concerned, it's really stuck in the past. I don't know why. It's bizarre. It sounds like you might be leapfrogging certain technologies. Maybe we don't have email, but then it's like, but we have the next thing after TikTok already. We had cell phones. We call them mobiles, but we had SMS messaging before the US did.

Which is really weird because you guys had like pagers, right? We had pagers. We didn't have those. Right. We've had some stuff. So we didn't have pagers or anything like that, but we had SMS messaging

like really, really super early on. Interesting. And I still remember when I met like my online friends in the US and I'd be like, because I use LiveJournal or whatever, and I'd be talking to them and they didn't have SMS messaging or they knew of it because it was something that existed.

But like it was quite expensive, so they just didn't have it. They they use their pager instead or whatever. And I always thought, why is it that like Northern Ireland was ahead of something technologically speaking, yet we still can't use email? Like, what is that? Yeah, we're definitely doing the leapfrog effect. Yeah, exactly. Well, we'll see what the next technology is that pops up you could be like actually no i'm kind of glad that we skipped email for this yeah right whatever that may be right all right let's take a quick break

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the midpoint of the year which means that uh we get a bunch of year in culture in review lists coming out best movies of the year so far so we're gonna do a little year in culture in review in review year so far in culture in review in review i love how we've added that to the list of like okay it's not just the best films of 2022. It's the best films of the first six months of 2022. I love it. We gotta have it. I'm with it. Hey, I support it. I added a whole section about video

games to this, so I'm good. Hell yeah. I mean, so the main thing like I was, I just feel woefully behind on TV. I am more of a movie bitch. I just think it's more efficient you get the whole thing in a single go there you go and i've been really enjoying a couple movies i'll talk about our maybe later if we have time nothing but good things so the tv show the

streaming shows list like the only thing i really watched so far is severance which have y'all watched that? I haven't. I've heard really, really good things about it, but I haven't seen it yet. So enjoyable. I watched The Staircase. It had a strong start. I had seen the documentary.

I fell off for no good reason after three or four episodes. I was basically in it for the part where colin firth eats tony collette's ass and once that happened i was like all right all right i think i get it is staircase the one about the opioid epidemic or am i remembering wrong no no this is so there's a great documentary called the staircase and it is this French filmmaker goes and covers the story of this local politician, novelist, who is accused of murdering his wife. His wife's death is just very,

very strange and confounding. She is found at the bottom of a staircase. Blood is all over the place. But her skull is not fractured the way it would be if somebody beat someone to death. But he's there. He says he comes in, finds her after just sitting in the backyard for a little while. It's very suspicious. He is one of the strangest humans ever captured on film the the

husband just like all sorts of weird tics i was like why would you ever make a dramatized version of this and then they did it and colin firth is incredible at capturing him and like makes it like slightly more accessible than the documentary because he is so like that you could just like like watching a minute of this person is like well i don't know how i feel about human existence now because he's so like strange and like hard to wrap your mind around um but anyways all of that to say i just learned that so the the movie the the documentary the thing that is most notable is that you cannot tell if he did it or not. Like you can have your suspicions, which I have. I still change back and forth like years after seeing it.

But I always liked this one theory, which was that an owl did it. Oh, my God. I've heard of that. You know, it's really weird. I never seen the docu-series but i've heard of that so it sounds it sounds so dumb that like i feel like that is the thing that kept people from letting that reality in is that like basically she has all these cuts on the back of her head that don't really make sense. And also an owl feather in her blood matted hair. But they don't really even explore it in the trial. They devote maybe 15, 20 minutes to it in the documentary. I assumed that this very serious, dramatic thing, HBO series with A-listlist actors was just going to breeze right past it

but apparently after i stopped watching they go in heavy on the owl theory really and like show you a recreation of the crime if the owl had did it and so cool i'm so excited so now that that is something that i'm very excited about all of which to say the staircase watch the docu-series and then watch the hbo show if you if you feel like it i'm clearly going in on that because that sounds like it's something that's right up my alley i do find true crime really interesting but the oil theories got me sold wow that really is fascinating but yeah there's a bunch of i mean we own the city has been on my list for a long time that i just like need to but like a prehistoric planet uh which is like planet earth but uh with dinosaurs which like that that's also something i can watch with my kids and david attenborough

and david all i need in my life is a little david attenborough and then there's a movie called neptune frost i i feel like i've done a decent job of like seeing all the movies I wanted to see. There's this new movie called Neptune Frost that looks really cool. It might be shown at your local art house theater. Go watch the trailer. And if you're anything like me, you will want to see it. But yeah, I think my favorite movie of the year is RRR, but worst person in the world. Also very good. Psyche, have you heard of r so i hadn't and then i looked it up earlier today and you know it's really stupid there was a p there was like a picture from the movie and i became completely convinced that the name was not rrr it was like like an animal in it and they were looking at each other and i was like oh maybe that maybe

i'm misinterpreting what it's called. And then I was like, no, you're being stupid. I don't know what it is. But it looks like it's really, really good. It's something that I had not heard of like at all. It completely passed me by. Same and same. But I have heard nothing but incredible things.

People saying like rejoicing in the theater. I've seen a twitter video of like people lighting off fireworks at the conclusion of the movie like like there was the only into a movie yeah and we're just like it was like someone was bringing a bottle into the club and you had like all the people following in the room sparklers but it was the end of a movie in an actual movie theater that's really cool so it really makes me want to see it but i'm not gonna lie i also hear it's three hours long it is three hours long i watched it in two chunks i watched it on my laptop oh and the two things that should be wildly diminishing to the

effect of a film and my immediate response was just like exuberance joy energy and i also had this feeling like wait like everybody who works in movies needs to watch this and then like i don't know maybe all of hollywood should just take a year off like and just be like just watch this a couple times more and just like such a leap forward in what an action movie can be, which is like one of my favorite genres of movies. Same. And it's also a musical and a historical period piece. It's like Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet,

Inglourious Bastards, and Braveheart were put in a blender. And also like some crouching tiger because the action like does new things with action that like you haven't seen that i'm sure every action movie is going to try and mimic but it was like yeah they put all those movies in a blender and came out with something that's like much better than any of them and i like those i also i think it's way better than top gun any of them and i like those movies i also i think it's way better than top gun maverick and i really liked top gun maverick i really liked maverick actually i was surprised i liked the original top gun but like my partner was super

into the original top gun because like he's a real plane nerd like he loves jets and he's always been like a jet nerd so we went to this and he was like i don't know if i want to go see this because like what if what if they what if they do the tomcat dirty i'm not going to be okay with it and i was like oh my god you can't talk like that about a plane so we went to the oh i thought that's what he called tom cruise was tomcat what are they maybe we do but we went so we went and we were like um i we just have to we have to to sit down and see. And I loved it. I was really surprised that I liked it so much. It was really, really good.

And I think a lot of people, some people had said that it was kind of like cringe or whatever. And I was like, did you see the original token? It was pretty cringe, but it was good. So yeah, I thought Maverick was great. Yeah. Could have been gayer. yeah it could have been gayer like it like the leaving leaving the original like that that was one of the more yeah notable undertones slash overtones i was gonna say tones of the first uh and they kind of took it out of this that's true they needed more sweaty bodies playing

volleyball yes but all right i i cede the floor at this point because i have some takes on games i bet you but i think these people are tired of hearing me talk game well well for my twitch stream oh geez well it's as as awesome as the year as it has been for television and film already it has also been a banger year for video games and for a couple of reasons. One of which is that, you know, of course, during the pandemic, there was a lot of pushing back of video games that were supposed to come out in 2020 and 2021. And we are kind of hitting a excess of games that are like, okay, finally ready for release. finally ready for release but also titles from companies that are very storied like from software who's famous for you know the the souls game souls born games from gorilla who made the first horizon zero dawn uh and from game freak the people behind pokemon like big companies finally releasing the

next chapter of whatever they were working on coming out in 2022 and feeding people so many great games some of which i am completely incapable of completing uh as contrary to psyche who is a master and who's destroying all of them but just awesome awesome games that are coming out and so you know name off the bat a couple that came at this year elden ring horizon forbidden west pokemon legends arceus and even smaller titles smaller ish titles like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Shredder's Revenge which is just a nostalgia overload this awesome new game Neon White which is like a first person shooter speed running game and Tunic which is this really cute kind of like Zelda style game but with an awesome

fox character and it has kind of like tilt shift animation style but like psyche what are you feeling about games this year so far i am really really thrilled because i have been a person who has never in my life been able to complete a soulsborne games like dark souls or sakiro or bloodborne i've never finished one i get frustrated really easily i'm not like a rage gamer but at the same time like i played Dark Souls 3 and I got to a point where I just got super super frustrated and couldn't finish it Elden Ring I finished and it took me a hundred and thank you a hundred and something hours and I I did it all on stream and I really really loved it and I was actually really genuinely surprised that I was so into I expected

myself to play it for a while and then just get like kind of burned out on it but it's definitely at least at the moment my game of the year um I think they did a I expected myself to play it for a while and then just get kind of burned out on it. But it's definitely, at least at the moment, my game of the year. I think they did a really really great job with it. Can you describe the game to people who haven't played it like us? To Jack? I beat it too, but I don't want enough talk out of me.

Go ahead. I would say think like a hardcore game where you have to go, it's very punishing. You have to fight your way through bosses that get increasingly difficult, but there's like a really great underlying story. It's open world, so you have a lot of places to explore. And it was really, really beautiful. and like there's a story something with soulsborne games that isn't like the lore is really fun and interesting but they tend to hide it in like item descriptions or like a weird little hidden

location that you find and then you find out the lore about a character or whatever and that's what elden ring does and i really really liked it i think they did a really great job of not kind of like shoehorning you into like a very linear path which is great for some people and not so great for others. It just happened to be great for me because it meant I could do whatever the heck I wanted, which I really liked. But I think we've got so much to do this year and we've got lots to look forward to as well,

which is really cool. Very much lots to look forward to. Another note on Elden Ring that I think is worth mentioning is that was the game that was touted as a collab with George R.R. Martin, who was just coming off the wild relative huge roller coaster of success that was Game of Thrones. But I've never heard of. Yeah, no, no one's heard of that. But the

success, I think there's definitely, you know, an advancement in the storytelling and from software games with Elden Ring, partially helped by George R.R. Martin. So I think that just worth mentioning in terms of accounting for the awesome success of that, of that game, even though I literally can't get past the first 10 hours of that game. And I'm just putting it down because I'm getting upset. But another another piece of games industry success that I want to highlight is the proliferation of subscription services like Xbox Game Pass. I think that you know, you could look at another subscription service and be like, I don't want to pay for another hulu netflix whatever but i think the value that you get out of something like xbox game pass when games are 60 to 70 flat and in certain parts of the world even more expensive than that like paying

10 a month to have access to triple a games and also indie titles gives you the kind of like you know what i can try this game for a little bit if i wasn't planning on playing it because it's included in this thing that i pay for as a monthly and for indie games that like you may have never even considered or heard of like just as an example that teenage mutant ninja turtles game that i was just talking about it's like 25 on steam and i think you know i beat the campaign which is like 16 levels took me like three hours. Is there a new thing where there's an indie game that is a massive franchise that is... How did they pull that off?

Basically what happens is smaller companies... Let me pull up my favorite indie film of the past four years is Rise of Skywalker. Yes, that little indie company. Exactly. The developer is this company called Tribute tribute games which is this company out of montreal and they make these kinds of like

you know basically like 16 bits um arcadey looking games but they wanted to recreate the the very traditional uh teenage mutant turtles like arcade game like there's that you know it's a classic cabinet game right next to the simpsons game where you have your four sticks you have your kick you have your jump you have your your i don't even i think that was it i think it was kick and jump where you're punching your jump where your two abilities that you had overall and people would just dump quarters into those games over and over and over. And they had such appeal that like Tribute decided to grab onto that nostalgia and take the IP and bring it back in this awesome package that's like super consumable, super fun to play.

You can play it with six people at a time, which kind of gets a little crazy on the screen. But my main point is that it's 25 bucks on Steam. And I think there's a lot of people who look at what would be a three-hour investment of time and be like i don't really think that's worth my 25 bucks yeah but when it comes to something like some people for something for me there you go it's such a god gamer over here but like when you have xbox game pass or a service like that also not sponsored content just throwing it out there that you you, you are more open to trying these kinds of things out. And, you know, after the Xbox and Bethesda game presentation, when so many of those games were like day one on Game Pass, you look at that. And for those who

are unaware, Microsoft owns Xbox, they recently acquired Bethesda, which is a game company or a game developer. And they did a presentation called this thing called Summer Games Fest 2022, where they showed the next year or two years of video games that are coming out. And basically, after every trailer, it said day one on Game Pass, pretty much like I would say 80 to 90% of the games day one on Game Pass, which means that if you are a subscriber to Game Pass, you have everything that you want to play for the next year is just at your fingertips. The second it comes out, you don everything that you want to play for the next year. It's just at your fingertips the second it comes out. You don't have to pay anything extra. It's just like, yeah, play this awesome game.

Go for it. Didn't they even confirm that Starfield is going to be, I think, the Day 1 Game Pass? Yes, Day 1. For anyone who doesn't know, Starfield is like, for me, as a person who plays space games a lot, I saw, and also was obsessed with Skyrim, I saw this as like the Skyrim in space

kind of idea and went, this is the perfect game for me. It has everything I need. Like you can, you can fly your spaceship, you can build your own spaceship, you can build bases on planets, you can fly around in space, you have an RPG as well. I thought this was amazing. And then they were like, day one game, game pass for like 10 bucks a month. That's wild. That's amazing. It's, it's's an it's an amazing service and i think you know again i think there's definitely ups and downs to the subscription model of video games for sure um and that some smaller companies might not be seeing that the revenue that they would like but but while the subscription service itself gets more people to play their

games it's definitely like a give and take for sure but it allows people that access and i think access is the thing that gets people to contribute more to the games in general and just like how it's definitely like a give and take for sure but it allows people that access and i think access is the thing that gets people to contribute more to the games in general and just like how many are coming out it you know gamers are eating as i as as they say gamers are definitely eating right now yeah they are it's like you do you use xbox game pass i do um well i'm subscribed i wouldn't say i use it a ton at the minute because especially because i've been playing so much elden ring up until like two or three weeks ago i that was literally the only game i was playing but i do think it's great and i i've had it subscribed there's a lot of people in my community on twitch that would talk about like you know oh this game just came to game pass there's a

game i'm actually playing right now i'm going to tell you about it it's also it comes as like an underrated thing for me vampire survivors it is so freaking good it's like i don't know like two dollars or you get it in game pass and i just got a steam deck recently and congratulations thank you we have two in our house which is just a really really dangerous situation two of us are sitting at like two o'clock in the morning on the steam deck playing vampire survivors for four hours in a row just recharging the steam deck because it's so addictive but it's really really fun and i feel like i keep talking about it to people and they're like oh my god i've googled it and like like it looks like a really super retro game and i don't really think the game plays for me and then the next day someone

says oh my god i hate you i stayed up until like three o'clock in the morning playing vampire survivors it's really really fun what's the, really fun. I love having video games described to me. What is it? Geo-Guessr? Geo-Guessr's amazing! I love shit like that. High concept stuff where I'm like,

that's really cool. It's like you play as a person who's trying to survive wave upon wave of vampires and bats and zombies and zombies and creatures and stuff that just keep spawning at you and you pick up items and as you level up you get like a random selection of items you can pick whichever ones you want and then you like equip six weapons and six accessories and they completely change how you like attack stuff around you you

literally just have to move you don't attack anything you just move and oh cool it's so weirdly fun like i i remember the first time i played it i was like what the fuck i can't attack anything you just move and oh cool it's so weirdly fun like i i remember the first time i played it i was like what the fuck i can't attack i don't understand right but it's so good i don't know how to describe it other than that it's just wild and very very over simulating but very fun there's there's a style there's a style of game called a roguelike and the idea of the game is you're playing the same kind of game over again, but each time you restart it, you get another item or you get a little bit stronger or you just have more information about how the game goes.

And it's a style of game that has many different versions, like you think like Enter the Gungeon or Binding of Isaac or something like that. But a game like Vampire Survivors is taking that form and changing it ever so slightly. And again, I think this all contributes to the whole access to indie games and the access to smaller developers that things like Xbox Game Pass or Steam give you where it's like, hey, you know, we don't, it's about the concept of the

game. Like if you look at a game like Vampire Survivors, which is just fact of the matter, wildly popular, it is, as Psyche said, a $2 game that, as Psyche also mentioned, is very low graphical fidelity. It's not a super great looking game, but that's not the point. The point is they developed this gameplay loop that is so addicting and so fun

that Psyche and your partner are staying up to four in the morning playing it on the Steam Deck. And also, for those not aware, the Steam Deck is a device that's very similar looking to a Nintendointendo switch but you can play games from the library of steam so it's like having a computer in your hands that plays so many different games at a really high quality like it looks really really powerful actually it looks amazing but

yeah so it's just like we we are definitely in a renaissance of like indie games and titles just having the access to people who are like, well, let me, you know, I'll check out this random game for fun because it's like small and it's, you know, cheap and it's really,

you know, it takes, it's 200 megabytes or something like that. It's like, yeah, I'll download that. Let's just pop it off. It takes three seconds to download.

I'll do it. I couldn't have said it any better myself. You guys really summed it up well, what I love about these games and this year in gaming. It's like, it's been a real pleasure having you on Daily Psyche. It's been so nice talking to both of you. Where can people find you,

follow you, all that good stuff? So as you both mentioned earlier, if you would like to listen to me talk with three other wonderful people about games industry stuff and tech stuff and talk to people that we consider to be

essentially the real life equivalent of video game bosses. We have a podcast called Boss Level LVL and you can listen to us on iHeartRadio and wherever you get your podcasts. And if you want to find me,

I'm on Twitch as Psyche. I stream a lot of different things. I'm very, very nerdy as I'm sure I totally didn't give that impression at all today. But yes, you can find me on Twitch as Psyche. I stream a lot of different things. I'm very, very nerdy as I'm sure I totally didn't give that impression at all today. But yes, you can find me on Twitch as Psyche, P-S-Y-C-H-E, and Psyche plays on pretty much all social media. Yeah. I thought I'm like such a gamer, but I thought it was boss and then some Roman numeral,

like 50, 50. So close. Nailed it. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying yes actually so this is just a standalone tweet that i saw the other day i do not know the person who posted it at all but it really stood out to me the person who tweeted it is called farah underscore loon and they, recovering people pleasers will be like, I'm in my villain era and it's just politely drawing healthy boundaries. And I felt really personally attacked by that

as a person who really struggles to set boundaries. That's funny. That's really funny. That one was a big one for me. I've really enjoyed that. And I keep coming back to it and just having a little laugh to myself. Yeah, that's perfect.

That is, i am a recovering people pleaser i don't think i'm even recovering one day yeah one of these days yeah that's what i should i should just say i i am i an identified people pleaser i don't i don't think i've identified the tools yet to fix it super uh super producer dj daniel where does people find you follow you hear you all that good stuff and what is the tweet you've been enjoying well i just copy pasted it in the chat so that everybody can see it because there's a visual part to it and i want you both to be able to see that visual part but uh before we do that you can find me on all parts of the internet at dj underscore daniel

d-a-n-l you can find me on twitch wednesdays fridays and sundays playing video games dungeons and dragons building computers, whatever the hell you want. And yes, please listen to the Boss Level Podcast on iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. It's a great podcast. We have really awesome guests. And frankly, for the past couple weeks, we've had our hosts doing their own Q&As about their own journeys into the streaming world, into content creation, but also the stuff they use to stream. So it's not just, you know, kind of the, you know, big picture advice about, you know,

getting into it and finding what you want to do, but also very like nuts and bolts. Like what do we use to get it done? So I think it's full, chock full of incredible information. So check out the Boss Level Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. And the tweet that I enjoyed is actually like a response to somebody else talking about Mitch McConnell. And I think the original tweet is from Hassan Abiy from, yeah, saying, I want to be 100% microplastics and breathe only coal. Thank God this goad is stopping the communist federal agencies

like the EPA from taking minimal action on PFA's and CO2 pollution. Obviously, that is a sarcastic tweet. But the tweet that I liked that was a response to that was Mitch McConnell celebrating his dubs the past few days. and it's the weird hand monster from pan's labyrinth yeah and when you look at it it's like look like they're doing that it a it looks like they're throwing up a dub but also that mouth is like exactly mitch mcconnell's mouth like it really looks like him and it's really gross and i'm like no, that's that really is what he looks like.

He is a demon monster from Pan's Labyrinth. Anyway, shout out. That is from at Milano Cookies, which I also love. They ask me to be really good. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I've been enjoying. Jamie Climate tweeted the hashtag don't look up, miss the part where the Supreme Court says we can't stop the asteroid

because that power wasn't written into the Constitution in 1787. David East tweeted me, good night, darling. I'm so happy to be able to fall asleep next to you, my girlfriend, already rotating like a kebab to ensure maximum duvet theft and then jason pargin author of the end tweeted question go to google image search and look for desk ornament and if you do that is this real and he said do you get a bunch of nazi stuff at the top as the top results and sure enough uh i did. Is that shopping or images? Holy crap.

Images. Images for desk ornament. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a lot. So wild. Yeah, it's very strange. Anyways, that went very viral.

And some people were like, oh, shit, cracked libs and stuff. He's been out here tweeting interesting stuff like that forever. Jason stays tweeting. He hits the nerve sometimes. He's at John Dies at the End, which is his very popular novel. You can find

us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes on our foot notes where we link off to the information we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy uh dj daniel yes sir for us well i have a song for you totally for sure actually i absolutely have a song for you so there's an artist that i really like his name name is Fred again. You can look him up on the Spotify or the you know, all the all the stuff and he just released a song. It's a collab with I believe with Fortet called Jungle. Fred

again is an awesome artist. They have produced an album called Actual Life, which was kind of like a postal service style album of collecting recordings, voice recordings, and just like random samples from friends during the pandemic, people who were stuck at home, and then produced an album out of it. And I say it's Postal Service style because, you know, those guys got started by just like sending each other. Yeah, exactly.

It's the origin story of them sending stuff in the mail. He received a bunch of samples and recordings for friends, turned it into this awesome album, Actual Life, which you should also listen to. But the recommendation is the song Jungle by Fred again. So enjoy that one all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows that's gonna do it for us this morning

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