The Daily Zeitgeist - Outrage Industrial Complex, Disney Wild 4.6.21

Episode Date: April 6, 2021

In episode 851, Jack and Miles are joined by actor and comedian Peter Banifaz to discuss Florida's vaccine roll out, corporations stepping up for voting laws in the name of capitalism, a universal tax..., an aggressive Disney dad, and more!FOOTNOTES: How the wealthy cut the line during Florida's frenzied vaccine rollout Top Florida Democrat calls on FBI to investigate DeSantis over vaccine distribution McConnell: Corporations shouldn't fall for disinformation on voting laws Exclusive: Janet Yellen to call for global minimum tax rate The Hidden Wealth of Nations He said he spent $15,000 on a Disney World trip. He refused a temperature check and got arrested. LISTEN: TLC - No Scrubs (HIRO Lovesick Edit) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 Trust us, it's out of this world. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 179, Episode 2 of Dirt Nightly Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, April 6, 2021. into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, April 6, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. OOEU, spring break just like a Trump rally. Uh-oh, COVID and bloody cold sores. I don't care what the CDC says to me. I don't care about that. That is courtesy of J Music Chicago Very appropriate for how I spent my last week off on spring break Spring breakin' it
Starting point is 00:02:53 Gettin' down in the streets of Miami Stopped by my friend Paul Pierce's house for a little bit Oh yeah, playing some poker Yeah, playing a little poker Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I'm binging all day. No Netflix.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Cold brew in the office. That's a weakness. Early onset. Edie made my peace with it. Got a routine, but it's on some street shit. I'm going to show you how to get it. It go press record. Sit up right. Open up the dock sit upright basically i'm saying either way we're sitting upright hey we sitting upright
Starting point is 00:03:33 do you want back pra blums okay anyway uh shout out to chef miller for that tootsie slide uh aka you know i just got it had to struggle a little bit through it you know yeah yeah well because i'm in the i'm back in the seat next to the great jack one of the one thing that they cannot say about us is that we are not sitting upright no as much as i thought at some point i would be a laying down podcaster i just don't know how when i see clips of that it gives me anxiety i'm like are you that checked out? Or you're just that good at talking? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I've had meetings with usually agents who are laying down. Just try. Wait, as if you're on FaceTime with a college basketball player you're dating? Yeah. Who's just like, what's up, bro? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to send some red lines back on those deal points. Okay. Damn, you look relaxed uh did you see clay thompson during the uh golden state game yeah no i posted a clip that i just like had to take a video of uh the dvr clip of clay thompson he was the coziest like falling asleep on the bench oh shit i'm looking at it
Starting point is 00:04:47 right now it looks like me in a lecture in college yeah me too i was like i've never identified more with somebody he was just right on that edge of consciousness falling asleep at a professional sports competition hasn't played basketball in the least for two years. I know, but that just shows you the levels of where he's at. He's exhausted. He wants to be out there. He cannot. And he's probably, who knows how he's sleeping.
Starting point is 00:05:15 So at a certain point, he's like, I have nothing to gain from looking at this except to sleep. Yeah. Anyways, Miles, great to see you again. Great to talk to you again and speaking of great to talk to uh we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious the talented peter bonifaz thank you thank you for having me thank so much. It's great to be here. It's great to have you. Yes. I think you now hold the record or at least top three for the longest, most in-depth LA conversation that we've had prior to recording you and Miles. Well, because we're locals. When you grow up in the Valley, you know, there's a lot to talk about.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Listen, the 818 love was flowing and we had to let it keep flowing. Yes. We're number one or top three, you said? Either number one or top three. It was- Yeah. I would say- I was taking notes over here.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I'm going to put out a dissertation. I'm writing out Calabasas Commons. Check. Research that. What is El Camino High School? Okay, could you let me know as soon as you guys find out? Yeah, yeah. This is an important point.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I think this was probably the top one because other people, when they come on and I know they're from the Valley, I already know. And this was sort of like, where'd you go? What? I'm from North Hollywood. What? So that was one where we were two Valley people working out. For that, I give it the Goat people Working out for that I give it the goat
Starting point is 00:06:46 Valley conversation I think it was Because you immediately picked it up You started asking all the right questions right away And yeah That's what I thought You got to the core of me really quickly You could feel it
Starting point is 00:07:00 The valley vibes Alright Peter we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners just a couple of the things that we're talking about uh we are talking about uh these florida gop stars are crushing it this week uh over the past week uh we're going to talk about desantis uh we're going to talk about a universal tax that janet yellen is uh proposing uh we're going to talk about corporations having to be the voice of reason when it comes to voter suppression uh we'll talk about a wild ass disney dad uh who was unable to deal deal with the new reality of where we live.
Starting point is 00:07:48 We got so much to talk about. But first, Peter, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Let me see. Some from my search history. To be honest, the last thing from my search history was I was researching the tax program for H&R Block to do my taxes because I have to do my S-corp taxes. There you go. So it's really the most boring thing you could possibly think of.
Starting point is 00:08:22 But it's the first time i would have googled something like that in an entire maybe year okay um yeah we can block h&r block has their own software h&r block has their own online software okay and uh i tried to use it and no disrespect to h&r block but it was incredibly non-user friendly and i had to give up yeah so yeah uncle sam will have to wait on that check you know uncle i got an extension luckily so uncle sam knows that i'm gonna but uh it's uh not to just bore you with this but it's basically i like filed the wrong form a couple of years ago and i have to refile that form from a couple of years ago so it's like how they get you that's it's so incredibly
Starting point is 00:09:10 frustrating i know that's why i'm like i'm dealing intentional i gotta go back to a tax person and do some shit from 2016 like one weird thing that i'm like oh my god what the fuck like why can't we be like other countries yeah yeah other countries just have a form you fill out they just serve you with your tax bill yeah they're like here here's what you owe pay it and we're done here and the u.s because uh of companies like h h and r block lobbying uh they just keep shit real complicated like other countries are just like wait what you wait there's a tax but you don't get the letter from the government that's already done because they know what you make they're the
Starting point is 00:09:49 government they have all of that anyway so they ask you to come up with information to verify you've also personally recorded the information that they already have on file on you anytime you need an expert to be able to like decipher things like that. It's, it's yeah. It's like you got to pay the taxes, but you also got to put the whole thing together and it has to be at your own cost. Yeah. And even when you like ask your friend who's really smart,
Starting point is 00:10:15 who went to law school, they're like, look, I'm no tax attorney. Yeah. It's like, you're a human rights lawyer. You're like, look, that's unfortunately that's, come on, man. What the fuck? You're a human rights lawyer. You're like, look, unfortunately, that's easier than tax.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Right. Way easier, way simpler. Human rights. The concept of human rights is way easier. Huh. Peter, what is something you think is overrated? Oh, man. Arugula.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I don't understand it. When I was growing up, nobody was eating arugula i don't i don't understand it what when i was growing up nobody was eating arugula now it's suddenly this huge part of society everywhere you go everything like i a while back someone was telling me about like arugula pizza and it was like basically like dough arugula and like some like cheese or like a white sauce or something i was like a pizza based on arugula i just i don't want it i don't like it i won't do it i love vegetables i love herbs but something about arugula just i it honestly kind of makes me feel nauseous it's definitely that's how yeah that's how i feel like arugula is yeah or rocket as it's known in other parts of the world I remember eating it
Starting point is 00:11:25 Like it's funny when it's peppery I love it when you get like some Lukewarm arugula But yeah on pizza I don't like leafy greens on a pizza Like I've had ones where it'll be like a little Prosciutto or something and a couple They'll hit you with a couple loose
Starting point is 00:11:41 Arugula leaves but When something's inundated with like leafy greens on a actual pizza like salad pizza like i can't i'm no that's what it was like it was like a salad pizza but with arugula also it's like if arugula if it's just arugula in there is it really a salad wouldn't it just be arugula right we'll go a side of arugula salad but then the only thing that's in it is arugula and dressing well it's like well that's a side of arugula right that's not that's not salad how many more how many more ingredients to cross into the salad to cross this i think at least at least one more yeah i think at least one more uh side of mashed potatoes salad uh what yes
Starting point is 00:12:22 when you put some a scoop of mashed potatoes on my arugula to really make it a salad that's a casserole salad right no what a casserole has to have egg in it right or cheese in it or something like that right for it to be a casserole it's all about the pan the dish ah it's the dish because i'm sure you could do a vegan version but yeah like i feel like if you're doing a one one pan type thing that falls into that's you're starting to flirt with casserole culture i feel like you also need to to have a true casserole and this probably isn't part of the definition but you have to have some sort of cream of something soup that is like a base layer ingredient that's based off of campbell's putting into American brains. Like if you don't have cream of mushroom soup,
Starting point is 00:13:05 it's not a fucking casserole. You would use. That's classic consumers. I'm sort of taking over our lives. They did. Yeah. And now I get it. Actually,
Starting point is 00:13:13 like I have cream of mushroom soup in my house because I grew up seeing my friend's mom, like make a casserole. Like I'd never seen before. And I'm like, Oh, that's the ticket. That white goo in the can.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Right. And all you need is water and heat. And then you got a meal. I grew up thinking that chicken quesadillas were this recipe that my mom made that was just layers of tortillas with cream of chicken soup
Starting point is 00:13:38 and cheese scattered throughout. Like a casserole? Yeah, it was like a casserole. It was like a quesadilla casserole. Whoa. It was really good, but it's definitely the
Starting point is 00:13:53 most American Midwestern white version of interpretation. I love that kind of aggressive distillation, offensive distillation of other cuisine into like this american version i don't know if you're the same way peter because you know being persian growing up in like like america seeing food at your home that's different than
Starting point is 00:14:16 maybe what other kids were eating did you like venture out into like the just gnarliest american food because you didn't have it at home? Oh, definitely. Because like once I started eating American food and or just sort of like Western food, quote unquote, when I left Iran, I was like, man, our food sucks compared to this. Like I want pizza. I want burgers. It's not like I hadn't had like those things in Iran. But when you come and have them at like McDonald's and, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:46 put those kinds of places, it really rocks your world after, especially when you're a kid. I didn't want to eat like, or like, I mean, I didn't want to eat our like celery and beef stew or whatever. I didn't want to like,
Starting point is 00:14:59 like, um, I didn't want to eat our pomegranate stew. Like I didn't want to eat any of that shit. I, I, I, and also for some reason, ever since I was a kid,
Starting point is 00:15:08 I was a really picky eater. I think I get it from my mom. Like I just, other kids, they'll pretty much eat whatever their parents like gave them. Like I was just, I was very specific. Like I just,
Starting point is 00:15:22 I guess the more authentic the food is, the least, like the less I like it. Yeah. That makes sense. It's a stacked deck because America is sending all its best scientists and nutritionists to massive corporations where they're like trying to distill chemicals to make something delicious like without any regard for you know how how good it is for you or any of those things so it's i i think about this a lot because i've got i'm trying to build healthy eating habits and a three-year-old and a four-year-old and it's like you find yourself being like eat the hot dog why am i why am i
Starting point is 00:16:07 having this conversation uh yeah probably the ease of it yeah oh yeah yeah easier to get the kid to eat a um salt log come on take a bite of your salt log there. What is something you think is underrated? I think even though people talk about it, they don't talk about it enough. I think the show Golden Girls is truly one of the greatest sitcoms in the history of television. And I think, honestly,
Starting point is 00:16:43 it's kind of like, it has a special place in my heart because I always watched it with my grandma growing up and I watched it with my mom and like and I still watch it with my mom and it's kind of just like one of those shows you watch if you have like it's like a show I would watch like when the pandemic first hit and I was anxious as shit and it's like
Starting point is 00:17:00 it just makes you feel good it's just like home cooked food but it's really fucking funny. And it was very ahead of its time and only had seven seasons, but it became like a legendary show. But because it's about like four old white women, I think people now kind of like dismiss it. But if they actually gave it a chance, they say, Oh,
Starting point is 00:17:20 it was pretty woke for its time. Like they still, you know, they still have their little like, you know, moments where you're like, oh, it was pretty woke for its time. They still have their little moments where you're like, ah, okay, we're luckily as a society way past that. But it's a really funny show. And if you're listening out there, and if you're talking shit about that show, shame on you. Watch the show. Watch the show.
Starting point is 00:17:41 And then contact me and say, thank you, Peter, because this show is It's fantastic. Say it to my face. If you're out there talking shit about golden girls, come say, Oh, you want to say something about fucking Estelle Getty? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:54 That's, uh, Mitchell Hurwitz, the creator of arrested development. I think that was one of his first writing gigs, uh, was golden girls. Like there's just incredible pedigree in
Starting point is 00:18:06 that writer's room and you can it you can see it on the screen yeah absolutely it's one of the for for real like i definitely i it was a show i my grandmother would have on and i would watch it and i always thought it was funny because i just always i loved uh sophia uh like just from being just like her vibe always that was like like, my favorite Golden Girl character. But I always, it probably wasn't until, I think I stopped watching in, like, high school. And I never came back. But because I always had good memories when, like, this sort of second, third wave of, like, Golden Girls fandom that's sort of just been on the internet pretty consistently. I've always looked at it and been like, oh like oh yeah fucking golden girls is the shit but you know like when i think of it now most people looking at it through adult eyes i probably
Starting point is 00:18:48 need to do that again because i did as a you know you know a kid or younger person liked it but yeah give it a adult eye viewing now no as a kid it didn't really strike me that it was a good show i just watched it with yeah i had good associations with it yeah but it was really like just being a fan of comedy now and as doll and i look back like man these are really this is really funny like these characters are very well defined they're very flawed but you love them and the jokes are just very good and it was ahead of its time like really especially dealing with like for the most part again they have their sort of blind spots but for the most part dealing with issues of like, like LGBTQ and, you know, like at the time, like immigration and like sort of like certain conservative values and stuff like that. They did a really good job.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I feel like for the time, just like setting good precedent, right? Yeah. Sort of like social reforms and whatnot. And it's just funny as fuck. And back in the days when you did sitcoms, it wasn't enough that you were funny or you did other, like you had to be a really solid performer. And, you know, it was really different back then. Like all of them have very well-defined stage careers and television careers. And like we're our true,
Starting point is 00:20:07 like quote, like quote, thespians of the game. So it's like, right. It really is like performance, television performance at the highest level. I think it too nerdy with this shit,
Starting point is 00:20:17 but like, you know what I mean? Like it's good sitcom acting is it's difficult too, because a lot of the times the writers weren't writing for the actors like there was a script and they're like you need to turn this up whereas like in listening to the office deep dive podcast and one of the first episodes greg daniels on the showrunners talks about how they were for the first time doing something different than traditional sitcom writing whereas like they tried to know the performer and start writing the character to tailor the performer which was different for before was like you got to pull
Starting point is 00:20:49 up with your skills and i think yeah when this kind of sitcom acting like they truly took these good solid writing even though it wasn't tailored to them but having to take that and make it seem like it was i think yeah it's a true art form. It's crazy. Give me Blanche Devereaux over Samantha from Sex and the City in terms of sex positive characters from my childhood. Blanche was the shit. Oh, definitely.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Blanche is like, what's great about her is like, as shallow and like, as she seems, she's always like, she seems she's always like is the she's she aggressively defends her friends like when she has to like and i mean like they're all really flawed but all have very very important key aspects of their character that you fall in love with that like you're like so it's like it's just and that's like you said that's really from the writing and the performing and uh and you just kind of don't see that shit no more it just yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:21:51 it's weird that like the shows that i watched as a kid like comedy holds up better than the drama maybe it's just because tv dramas have like progressed more uh but like you know matlock and murder she wrote those sorts of shows that i kind of associate with golden girls in terms of like being on around the same time and like being uh shows i would watch at my grandparents house and shit like the golden girls holds up really well whereas like you know matlock i i kind of regret my full full back Matlock tattoo. Yeah. But yeah, back on lock with the Matlock. You have a full Matlock
Starting point is 00:22:33 and it's really detailed, right? Full body. Yeah. You can kind of get an idea of the entire arc of the series based on like the different sections of the tattoo. Yeah. And it is nude. It is nude. It's nude of Matlock and i heard 13 grand oh yeah it starts from underneath his shoulder blades to the bottom of his butt cheeks i mean you don't want to fuck around with something like that yeah man it looks like a weird
Starting point is 00:22:59 yakuza tattoo jack this sounds like the worst idea i've ever heard in my life he's still and uh yeah still dealing with huh he's still paying for it no but um uh no i agree with you though man like definitely the old school like dramas now they're like okay this is lame these characters act like cartoon characters but like comedy that's what's dope about comedy it's like it's kind of universal and it's if it's done right it's kind of universal. And if it's done right, it's kind of timeless. Like I Love Lucy is still really, really funny. And, you know, again, like it's done such a long time ago. So those aspects of it, you look back and, you know, it's a little cringy.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But like the other aspects, like, man, this shit is still funny. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, because like when you look at movies from the 80s, like a lot of the comedies don't hold up that well. But, you know, dramas and like Back to the I guess Back to the Future is a comedic. Dramedy, I think. Dramedy. Back to the Future.
Starting point is 00:24:00 You know, the greatest film of all time. Of all time. Yeah. Yeah. I guess like, like, okay, like, do you mean like, let's say a film like Ferris Bueller's Day Off? Is that like a pure comedy? You know what, my point sucks, is what I'm realizing now.
Starting point is 00:24:15 No, no. It's trying to fall apart a little bit. Just back away from that real quick. I also immediately mentioned like, an iconic, considered iconic iconic like 80s comedy but like yeah there's a lot of comedies from that time like i don't know this is one with rodney dangerfield that i liked when i was a kid and i saw a part of it again like i don't know like five years ago yes and i was like this fucking sucks and it's just like it was like they were like how do we make the dumbest most like offensive bullshit with every bullshit joke in it right and and then i
Starting point is 00:24:55 like a dumbass i was like probably like 10 years old and i thought man this shit is hilarious this is so good this is so well made they, like, they really loved the fuck out of, like, Rodney Dangerfield. Yeah, man. He had his moment. Remember when they fucking made that movie Rover Dangerfield? They just said, what if our man was a fucking dog and it's a cartoon now? Like, that was it. I remember being so confused as a kid when that movie came out.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I'm like, dude, I don't, what? This is a dog. That's doing standup. Hey man, I don't,
Starting point is 00:25:30 the guy gets no respect. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy back then. You just needed this. Like, like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:36 you need a comedy had to have a stick, I guess. And he's like, Hey, yeah, that's just weird. It's like, these days,
Starting point is 00:25:41 if you do that, yeah, these days, if you do that shit, people are like, man, get this fucking guy off stage. I want to see this fucking guy off stage wannabe rodney dangerfield looking ass uh i heard that dude was like i mean again i i don't know like how true this is but i heard like he was like
Starting point is 00:25:58 a really shitty dude and like towards the end of his life when he wasn't doing comedy as much like had some like financial scheme where he like schemed a bunch of like old retired people out of their money or something like again like i heard this i forgot what source i heard this from but i have heard from multiple sources the dude was like a shitty dude but like yeah someone who constantly goes around screaming about how they get no respect i'm not surprised at all why they don't get any respect right that's the case yeah but um i mean i don't know who knows i mean that's a whole that's part of the life cycle of being a celebrity who old people like is you know like tom selleck now does all those like scam shits uh you know willford oh he's like i trust him and i think you can exactly i'm like
Starting point is 00:26:47 shut up that's just being an american who old people like uh telling these old people give their home to the bank in this commercial yeah oh for the uh yeah for those uh reverse mortgages yeah yeah yeah exactly it's also like you can't like shut up tom so that your ass don't have no reverse mortgage you don't need a reverse mortgage fuck out of here you, Tom. Your ass don't have no reverse mortgage. You don't need a reverse mortgage. Get the fuck out of here. You do Blue Bloods. I don't know if that show's still on.
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Starting point is 00:31:34 he wrote a he had an autobiography in 2004 called it's not easy being me a lifetime of no respect but plenty of sex and drugs oh okay well he said he was so into smoking weed the book's original title is just supposed to be called my love affair with marijuana i mean that's not the that's not what i would have expected i wouldn't expect him to be a pothead but yeah um all right let's talk about uh miles what happened i i had uh so much money on florida these florida gop stars being being the future of the party yeah a lot of people did yeah went went away this past week what the fuck happened man uh gets getsy they know yeah it's not it sounds like everybody with the how quickly this can't like
Starting point is 00:32:27 there's no protection from the party they're just like no that's like you know like if you're you go out with a friend and somebody acts like wild stupid and you're like i'm not getting a fight with this for over this shit right and you're like no you're on your own fam no go ahead take a big swing on that one like that's what's happening with him and it should be like no one should be defending him when there's allegations of child sex trafficking involved. But yeah, now he's... I mean, it's...
Starting point is 00:32:51 There's a new thing. There was the Iran angle for a little bit. That went away, where it was about getting a freed CIA agent that people thought was dead. And now he's like, hey, I'm not a monk. In this op-ed he put out and you're like oh my god wow what is this i was shocked when i heard this uh i was like man matt dates you're kidding me i
Starting point is 00:33:13 can't believe that he's me uh no i'm kidding he's i mean the guy's an absolute trash bag and it's so obvious and like i think he went against some of like some of the like parties more respected members oh yeah and i think now he's kind of paying price for that yeah well at least they'll always have good old ron desantis uh front runner to be the gop nominee for the presidential election if Trump doesn't run again in 2024. He was at the CPAC when they were taking polls at the CPAC. Everyone was like, DeSantis all the way, man. He's our boy.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Except for the fact that we've had our suspicions about how he was handling COVID when he fired the woman who built the state-of-the-art database that everybody was using and was like she's making the numbers look too realistic uh so they fired her then had the police like raid her house uh so there's a little smoke there but now uh 60 minutes did a deep dive
Starting point is 00:34:20 into his handling of the vaccine rollout uh it's not good. It doesn't look great. Reporting from 60 Minutes alleges that he funneled the state's coronavirus vaccines to rich communities and privatized the vaccine rollout to benefit donors, specifically the people who own Publix. But there's also places where people who are on boards and who, you know, were just in good with him were getting vaccines like irrespective of their place in line. It was just I'm I'm shocked. I know again, the good old.
Starting point is 00:34:57 We are breaking news here, Peter. uh it's just yeah these are another guy who got in uh when you know andrew gillum could have just possibly have been governor as well if who knows what if there were the voter suppression you know pretty robust in florida if ron desantis would even be governor uh right now both the people who went against stacy abrams and andrewum, respectively, are having a real awful time. Just like not like they're doing what conservative governors are going to do, which is just basically right. Whoever looks like them out at the cost of everyone else. I mean, I feel like they're having a great time doing it.
Starting point is 00:35:36 It's what they they're doing what they do. Right. Yeah. And you can tell the way they talk, because even like Ron DeSantis, when he talks about like, oh, all the people that are coming to Florida for spring break, he's like, yeah, because we're open you know people don't have to be miserable anymore right it's like what that's what you thought this whole thing was people just bummed out and miserable because they couldn't fuck around on spring break not because
Starting point is 00:35:55 nearly 600 000 people have died like what the what yeah i mean it's a perfect example, I feel like, of like right now, if you're a conservative sort of like person who is trying to run for some kind of like a specialist state like Florida, all you got to do is just kind of say the same kind of crap. Talk about, you know, I'm a Christian and then talk about abortion and bullshit like that. Kiss Trump's ass. That's enough to get elected. But if you're progressive, you have to be... You gotta solve problems. You gotta try to solve problems. You gotta be able to solve problems. You gotta be... You have to be top of your class. You have to have, like,
Starting point is 00:36:36 basically just have a complete... You know, never had an issue with anybody in your life, but never said a bad thing about anybody. I mean, it's just sort of like... It's just a crazy, crazy double standard. This guy, Ron DeSantis, couldn't run a newsstand. And now he's running an entire state with one of the biggest populations in the country.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I guess at this point, I'm sorry to say, but whatever happens is kind of going to happen. It's like, they always say in politics, you don't get the leaders you want. You get the ones you deserve. And if people are going to keep voting for pieces of crap like that. Yeah. It's just tough in states like that, too, though, like where Georgia clearly was a state that could have gone blue many years ago if it weren't designed to take votes away from people of color and people who would vote democratically and i'm and florida is no different and which sucks is because yeah while there are the you know 50 plus one that ensured the victory that did vote for desantis the whole other half of
Starting point is 00:37:37 the country that or state that didn't oh yeah like and yeah this is what happens we're not able to exercise our power to vote properly because because I'd imagine on paper, more people don't want Ron DeSantis than do, but this is how they've, they've got the game rigged at the moment. Yeah, absolutely. And then I'm at my,
Starting point is 00:37:55 and who I really mean that towards the sort of like the people who consciously put a vote, who did that. Cause it's like, I I'm unfortunately in state state in a state like florida it's almost like i don't know it's like i automatically assume that there is a much higher population of the people who have at least more progressive intentions but a large percentage of them either don't vote or don't get a chance to vote or put in positions where they can't it's not easy for them to go yeah because like oh i can't take this day off
Starting point is 00:38:30 otherwise i don't get paid and i can't put i mean it's just like right so we have a pandemic where people are like no i have time to vote now and we started we started to see what happens which is why the they're trying to like slam the gates shut before more people start voting freely. The good news is that the populace is more aware than ever. So they can see everything that's happening. So I think the GOP, they're going to get their wins here and there.
Starting point is 00:38:58 But at the end of the day, we clearly see where this country is headed. It's headed to a progressive agenda. And they can get on board or not get on board, but it's clear how history is going to show everything. Yeah, it's just more the pace
Starting point is 00:39:14 at which it happens because right now the Republicans are... They will quite literally, I think, throw themselves into a fire if they have to keep any progress from happening, which is what makes it so doubly frustrating yeah yeah the party that always ran on a platform of like we are against communism we literally we are against russia whatever literally was okay with russia hacking our biggest most important systems in this country and then see walking into the oval
Starting point is 00:39:43 office right there's no problem it's no problem but imagine if like a progressive leader had done something like that oh my god they would know i mean i mean that's when someone was like well like if the second someone says anything about venezuela objectively they're like well let's talk about this sanctions they're like oh my what what are you some socialista fashionista? What is this crap? Yeah, yeah. No, see, you're just triggered by the fact that I'm talking about a country that the United States foreign policy where they're using privatization to launder like their white
Starting point is 00:40:26 supremacy um by being like well we're just going to give it to publics uh publics is a big grocery chain and you know they're gonna know how to uh appropriate all the all the uh vaccines and vaccines. And meanwhile, that leads to Palm Beach County, which has vaccinated over 160,000 residents. Of those people vaccinated, 2% were Black, 3% were Hispanic, even though minorities make up almost half the country or half the county. So it's, yeah, they know what they're doing. It's, I think increasingly, as you alluded to, Peter, like it's the, like, because it's becoming clear that this is the country is heading in a progressive direction, they are making it clearer. Like, it's more and more important to them and to their supporters that they, you know, uphold white supremacy out in the open without saying it, unless you're Trump. I mean, they're more desperate.
Starting point is 00:41:37 They're more desperate than they've ever been. It's like they, I mean, they're looking at the polls themselves, like they can see, like like so now it's about like theft it's about stealing it's about being all the things they always pretended to be against and uh yeah pretended exactly pretended to be well that they were like no it's that's what it is we just we'll say the other thing because we want people to vote for us because we want them to think we're humans right and then and they're course, the ones that talk about how, like, there is
Starting point is 00:42:05 no systemic white supremacy in the system. It's like, of course, the person that's being accused is always the person that's going to say, no, this thing doesn't exist. It's so crazy. Racism is so bad that even racists don't want people to know they're racist.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Any other ideology somebody has, they want everyone to know how they feel about something. But when it comes to racism, even racists are afraid. Even racists know how bad it is. Even racists know how cowardice it is to dislike someone, hate someone, simply because they're different from you. Yeah. Well, kind of the same story,
Starting point is 00:42:43 but a different part of the same story, but like a different part of the same story is the voter suppression that is, you know, all the different, you know, legislation that's being proposed, passed in Georgia and Florida that is basically making it harder and harder for people who aren't republican voters to vote basically is what it comes down to um and now mitch mcconnell is shook it seems like you got look i've been we were joking like yo i guess the corporations are gonna have to fucking step in to save democracy because it's the only thing that makes sense to politicians in this country is the loss of capital. So it's like, well, if they move the all-star game, that's one thing. If these other companies like, hey, we need y'all to do something or else we're going to figure out what we need to do to help, you know, protect our employees. Now, I'm not convinced. I don't know how far a corporation is willing to go. But right now they're making they're sucking their teeth at this bill.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Like, OK, we'll see what's going on. And Mitch McConnell. Yes, he's saying things like this right now they're making they're sucking their teeth at this bill like okay we'll see what's going on and mitch mcconnell yes he's saying things like this right now uh he he in a like a like a statement he put out he was warning companies like coca-cola and delta to quote stop taking cues from the outrage industrial complex uh end quote in reaction to their you know all the people coming out against this georgia voter suppression bill and i'm like that's not big grim reaper energy mitch that's not usually how you are like i thought you were the guy who's like oh you don't know what i have under my coat because i want to get rid of the filibuster and i will start clapping in here but it's all
Starting point is 00:44:19 pump fakes from him because he has nothing because they don't have an ideology that appeals to a majority of people. It's only enjoyed and attractive to a very small part of the country. And those numbers are starting to dwindle, but it's still enough to make some races competitive with voter suppression. So he goes on to say, quote, it's jaw dropping to see powerful American institutions not just permit themselves to be bullied, but join in the bullying themselves. Wealthy corporations have no problem operating in New York, for example, which has fewer days of early voting than Georgia, but requires excuses for absentee ballots and restricts electioneering via refreshments. There is no consistent or factual
Starting point is 00:45:05 standard being applied here it's just a fake narrative gaining speed by its own momentum so is he proposing that we change things in new york it sounds like i mean that's yeah okay so there's good points uh yeah let's let's fix why don't we just pass hr1 the fourth people act how about that we can just all put it all on the level playing field because guess what even the goons who like racism they would be registered to vote at 18 too so yeah right what's the problem it's level baby where you were we're saying we're gonna have a boxing match and we're gonna use the same gloves and we're it's all sanctioned and we know we're trying to make it as level as possible but the second you know because i think all this does it fucking underlines just how dependent all
Starting point is 00:45:45 politicians are on being in the good graces of corporate donors yeah like that's all this is saying to me i think the problem with old uh old mitch is that he knows that it's all about the cash and because again we said that the majority of the country is against the white supremacist institution that's really trying to keep these voting suppression laws in place. Because a lot of them have been in place for a long fucking time. They're just getting ramped up. Things are adding on top of it now. But I feel like they know that it's like's like delta's like we don't want to lose money and the company's like we don't want to lose money right so we don't give a fuck about
Starting point is 00:46:32 pissing off some dumb ass uh politician we give a fuck about pissing off millions of people so we don't lose money so it's like he knows there's nothing he can sit there and cry all he wants there's nothing he can do about it right because if consumer i mean that's like the weird thing it's like consumer culture is gonna guide this in the right direction because if we start saying like well we're not gonna buy from this company like okay fuck we love voting okay fine what the fuck uh we want to make sure everyone can vote because we don't want to sell less bottles of sprite remix over the summer i I mean, right. At the end of the day, what is this really about? It's really about they know that literally
Starting point is 00:47:09 the black and Hispanic Latino vote saved this country. It saved it. It saved all our asses. And they know that, and that's who they're trying to suppress. I mean, these Republicans it's kind of like they're evil.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I don't want to use the word genius because I don't think any of them, I can't even imagine. No, I won't associate the word genius with these people. They're just disgustingly cunning. And they'll do things that the other side won't do because the other side is,
Starting point is 00:47:39 you know, I mean, I hesitate calling myself a Democrat because there's a lot of things, a huge amount of things in the Democrats, sort of the zeitgeist of the Democrat philosophy that I completely disagree with too because I still rooted in some ways in white supremacy and just sort of a slave to capitalism. But it's like in this point, you have to choose sides. There was just no other way around it. Yeah, they're just better salespeople. Democrats are just better salespeople.
Starting point is 00:48:06 They're like, oh, yeah, we can read the room. That's what we like. Will we do it? I don't know. Maybe at a very slow pace. But within there, you actually have the people who are there to solve problems. And I think that's the thing I hope more people who vote begin to see is that there are politicians like Mitch McConnell who are just there to stay there and, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:27 be in their influential, be like the, in the top eight of uncle Sam's MySpace page of top Patriot friends of his. And then there are people who are purely there on a mission to create better outcomes for people. I mean, I really get that vibe from AOC, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:44 just like just someone like her, who's got an aggressive, progressive agenda. She's not scared of these fucking old white dudes. And she's going to come at them. You know, I think the first step is someone who does not take corporate money is the first is like the first hurdle you have to get over to convince me you're here for the right reasons. Does she take corporate money? I don't think she takes like pack money i for the most part i feel like a lot of the progressives have sort of sworn off that like you said and that's that's well said that's the first step that's that's a big first step i'm not bought i'm not bought by these corporations yeah yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:53:28 And we're back. And real quick, I wanted to talk about this. What is a boring sounding headline, but I think is actually pretty important and can be somewhat easy to understand and a story that we've been covering sort of on and off. So Janet Yellen is proposing a global corporate tax rate, which, again, kind of boring sounding. And because wealthy are making our current trajectory as a species like unviable. They have found clever, complicated ways to avoid paying taxes. The most wealthy are effectively stealing from the rest of the population.
Starting point is 00:54:24 effectively stealing from the rest of the population. And there's a certain amount of money that needs to be spent on collectively funded institutions and programs. And they are, by not paying their fair share, you know, a lot of people have said this is an impossibility because how are you going to get countries to make decisions that are not in their financial interest? So there's some things about incentivizing cooperation by making it easier for those countries to borrow money from the U.S. But yeah, this goes back to, we talked about this book, The Hidden Wealth of Nations, that just talks about the sheer scope of tax avoidance by massive corporations and extremely wealthy people. And the response was like, well, how are you going to do any of this? And it's at least promising that the U.S. is going to try, that they have enough hope to be like, all right, we'll make everybody have this
Starting point is 00:55:40 level of taxation so that Apple can't just like park all of their corporate earnings in one place and uh not contribute anything to the country that made them possible yeah and don't worry it's just it's just going to be a fraction of what you should be paying anyway so don't get all torn up about it because at the end of the day we're not going to look for a real equitable taxation here yeah but shit when you know nobody's paying anything it's like well what yeah what the fuck can you do yeah unless there's like a global pitchfork movement you know when you look at global financial restrictions there's often a lot of blowback from it right because like it doesn't affect all countries equally like rich rich countries can deal with that. Poor ass countries that need big corporations
Starting point is 00:56:27 to invest in them, like for jobs and infrastructure and stuff like that, are going to kind of be still at the whim of corporations. Like they're going to find ways out of this. I guess I'm definitely optimistic that the discussion is being had,
Starting point is 00:56:41 but I'm a little bit pessimistic in terms of how it's going to sort of affect the sort of global equity in that way. Or look at what's happening with vaccines. Poor ass countries right now are probably like 1% in on their population totally vaccinated as opposed to like countries like us, Western Europe. 100 million people almost. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:05 The problem is that for the most part, it feels like the sort of Reagan-esque trickle-down economics is something the major corporations have been sort of feeding the smaller countries and smaller, those kind of developing countries, that crap that it's like if you allow us to sort of unregulated, unrestricted, invest into your country, that wealth will trickle down. And of course, it doesn't. Yeah, you'll get to participate. You can get a World Bank loan if you let us completely exploit your land. How about that? Right. you can get a world bank loan if you let us completely exploit your land. How about that? Right.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And then you'll be so indebted to the world bank that when you start having socialist leaders come up, we're going to say, you need to kill that person or make sure they're not the leader because that's how the U S was fighting the cold war in Latin America, basically. Cause they were like, well,
Starting point is 00:57:59 fuck we're going to, we'll use debt to strike, to, to coerce more control out of developing nations. Right. And then they use that. They use that for leverage, got arms and basically gave arms to Iraq to try to fight Iran in the war, in the Iran-Iraq war. Here's an example of what's kind of happening in Iran right now.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Because of the sanctions and whatnot the country has oil but can't really sell it to anybody except for a few different countries so basically they're so desperate that now they're literally selling off parts of the country to china right wow literally selling parts of the country of iran to china to pretty much do whatever they want with it like to do like resource extraction yeah resource extraction it's a lease or they fully with it. Like to do like resource extraction. Yeah. Resource extraction. It's a lease or they fully own it. Like that's now like, they're like,
Starting point is 00:58:50 we've ceded this land to this Chinese company or whatever. And now that is whatever they're, they're, they're operating on. I mean, from the, the knowledge I got, it sounded like they're actually selling off,
Starting point is 00:59:02 like actually like give literally selling off like land. Just like these assets right there. Yeah. As assets basically, or even if they're leasing that land, they're literally letting them do whatever they want with it. Right. And then sort of,
Starting point is 00:59:14 sort of paying, I guess, but it, I would imagine it's mainly to extract, you know, uh, resources or whatnot. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:23 But, uh, I mean, yeah. And it's, uh, instead of just an example of how, like, the richer countries are kind of using the poorer countries. Right. I mean, this is like a whole government,
Starting point is 00:59:35 but I guess, you know, corporations are doing kind of the same thing. Right. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Because, I mean, they're kind of the same thing at this point. Right, right. Yeah. One of his proposals is the guy who wrote the Hidden Wealth of Nations is to is which is like one of those somewhat simple sounding ideas
Starting point is 01:00:07 that made me be like wait we can do that and according to him yeah you can and you know that the news since he wrote this book which was about eight years ago has been uh you know inundated with all this blockchain technology and distributed ledger technology that it seems like the more that we can get everything above board the harder it would be for these corporations to do the shit that they're doing because they we'd be able to track it yeah meanwhile like maybe that now it's a perfect time to like oh what about georgia though huh everybody wow that's fucked up that That voter suppression bill. Somebody. We should do something about that. I don't know what the tax thing you're talking about is, but I don't know if you saw what Brian Kemp is doing.
Starting point is 01:00:50 We should talk about that. All right. Let's talk about this Disney dead and just where we're at with our reemergence as a country into into normalcy. Yeah. Look, reentry anxiety.-entry anxiety is very real uh and we'll discuss that in a later episode because the more i read about i'm like yep this is uh this is me this is everyone i know just being we've been living the last year in a very bizarre version of the world and trying and you know a lot of us have tried to like forcefully adapt to this like new way of like being less social and more focused on like surviving and just being a little more inward
Starting point is 01:01:31 and yeah to say at least it's going to be a bit of a process getting back out there at least for me and some other people who are just kind of like i think i'll get overwhelmed pretty easily but i know i want that down the road but i'm not to be able to make that jump very quickly. Well, there was a Baton Rouge man who found out that, you know, look, he's trying to do the normal thing of go to Disney World, you know, been trying to recapture going on a vacation. sidestep the temperature check at the gates at disney world which is a big no-no considering that florida's like being like please we're barely trying to keep this thing together like let's try and keep some of these protocols in so this dude apparently just walked right in and people like chasing after him was refusing to have to be tested and this this uh washington post article says amid heightened precautions for the virus, the major Florida tourist attraction, Kelly Sills, 47, skipped the temperature screening required of guests. He was confronted by security about it at a Disney Springs restaurant, the Boathouse, when he yelled and refused to leave.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Mostly he was yelling. He's like, do you know how much I paid to be here? to be here uh and i'll play this clip just so you can kind of hear this man's voice and what he felt he was entitled to do or not do given that he completely sidestepped the temperature check let's hear the trump supporter okay so because it's private property all right they can ask you to ask me when i paid fifteen thousand dollars that's not a true statement, sir. 100% they can. If you charge me, if I take $15,000 from you, I can't kick you out? Mr. Sills, if you want to know...
Starting point is 01:03:12 He's like, alright, I respect that. He realized they're like, that's not an argument, fool. He's like, I paid $15,000! And maybe, I'm sure you did. Apparently he came with like eight family members. Airfare, hotel and shit shit that's just not cheap but also sir you should know the very least if there you can fuck up your own bag
Starting point is 01:03:33 like that by trying to skirt the temperature screening uh and you're not unfortunate i know that a lot of the companies are setting this example for americans being like i gave all this money what do you mean i can't subvert the will of the people um yeah he had that big energy so he later went on uh then the washington post was interviewing him and he was saying it was a mix-up he said he actually like entered through an exit or something and he said this is from the washington post article quote he partly blamed the security manager for escalating the conflict and compared Disney security to Nazis and the mafia, but also admitted he was, quote, in a bit of a mood after a day of travel. He says, COVID is a very serious thing, but so is my vacation with my family. I don't know which one is. Yeah. I don't know which
Starting point is 01:04:21 one's more serious. COVID almost 600 000 people but on that same level at the exact same level of importance is in my family going to disney world and i don't think i mean i don't know what his intentions are necessarily i don't know where the because it's weird when you watch that clip there are times when like the cops like yo just shut up let me talk to you like right yeah yeah i got you I got you. And he's like, no, you're right. You're right. You're right. I don't know if it's like he could be evil.
Starting point is 01:04:48 He might not be. But what I definitely see is like a stressed out person thinking the shit was normal again. And when like this new normal wasn't normal in that, like he had to wear a mask and still get a temperature check. Like, it's like, what the. I can I could see on one sense of being frazzled, but I'm not saying, you know, that's his right to skirt the temperature check like he's like what the i can i i could see on one sense of being frazzled but i'm not saying you know that's his right to skirt the temperature check i like the way that it ended with him being like will you take my temperature before you kick me out please and they're like oh yeah no we'll we'll do that at the jail and he was like oh okay that's good yeah that's right
Starting point is 01:05:20 the last line is we take one more time maybe he wanted a shot at redemption like okay i'll comply i'll comply i'll comply they're like yeah fam at the jail yeah i know it's too late but can you at least let me know if i have a fever or not because i really don't feel good yeah i don't feel like shit right now yeah yeah i'm very sick i'm very sick i've been coughing i have dry cough the thing is i i just i'm sorry i just automatically assume this guy is a Trump supporter. Like, yeah, but I mean, I've seen I've seen I've I know people who are Democrats who are acting dumb as fuck with this shit. And I'm very disappointed. And I think at the end of the day, I start those sort of partisan divides blur a bit, because while there are motivations very specifically for conservative people, I see people who just like have lived in a world that has not necessarily been very turbulent for them or filled with consequences. So it's easy to look at this situation, get to
Starting point is 01:06:10 this point without being ill or something like, no, I'm gonna do this. Oh yeah. I'm going over here. I'm going to do like, it's this on some level, there's like this feeling of like trying to feel like I'm like, I'll be okay. I'll be okay. It's sort of denial of your own mortality in some sense. You know, my man, you just taught me something right now. I want to thank you. It doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on. You could still act like a selfish, irrational person, which he was what he was doing.
Starting point is 01:06:35 It's like, first of all, your kids are there. In front of your kids, you're basically saying, no, depending on what mood I'm in, I don't have to follow the rules. And I could throw a fit, a grown adult throw a fit in front of other grown adults because I mean, bro,
Starting point is 01:06:49 we're all waiting in line for the same shit. We're all doing the same shit. None of us want to wear masks. None of us want to like get a temperature check before you go into it. So it's just like, it's a level of selfishness and a lot of it has to do,
Starting point is 01:07:03 I think, with the mentality in this country in general, like the capitalist mentality, me, me, me, no, me,
Starting point is 01:07:08 my comfort. That's my comfort. My family's comfort. What do you mean them? No, fuck them. I don't know them and I don't owe them shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Nobody ever gave me nothing. Nobody ever cared about, you know, they actually did. Yeah. You're not acknowledging, you know, all the,
Starting point is 01:07:22 it just, it just is selfishness, selfishness. Like the same people that I'm on a plane and I don't want to wear a mask. What? that you're not acknowledging it. You know, all the, it just, it just is selfishness, selfishness. Like these same people that I'm on a plane and I don't want to wear a mask. What? Yeah, none of us want to wear a mask, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Well, in the sense, yeah, that, yeah, you're like, this isn't a situation anyone wants to be in. Of course not. It ain't about you, yeah. But this is how, this is how, at the very least, the people who are good enough to,
Starting point is 01:07:40 this is their job to have to be stuck on this thing with us to keep them safe, other people safe. It's like, but, but you know i think there's just no um it's it's an unfortunate thing like i said yeah it doesn't really matter ideologically because this will reveal a lot about who you are in general and i think again i think people who that's why you see a lot of people who identify as democrats who aren't really shit anyway they're just also good at reading the room they're like oh fuck that if i choose that side nobody will fucking talk to me at least chrissy teigen and john legend uh they rock with that side so i'll do that oh do i do i have any empathy uh for undocumented people or trans people or uh people of color or any other
Starting point is 01:08:21 no not really i just did this to avoid the smoke on Instagram. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Whether you're progressive or you're conservative does has nothing to do with if you're an actually a good, decent person, you could still, I mean, how many progressive quote unquote people do we know that are absolute pieces of garbage
Starting point is 01:08:38 and selfish and people who, you know, like, uh, rest in peace to my friend's father who was a conservative, but a really it was the most confusing thing because was the most caring person to no matter who he met but was but voted republican all the time and it was like hard for me to be like well i can't just
Starting point is 01:08:58 write this do it off because he's never said anything fucked up he's always been the most kind person never said anything like you know He's always been the most kind person. Never said anything like, you know, outside of some, maybe ignorant, like very like boomer type shit, nothing that felt like it crossed the line. It's like hateful, purely hateful rhetoric.
Starting point is 01:09:14 So it's like wild when you just see like, you know, that was coming from a time when that was a better brand to hop onto. Right. At the end of the day, he didn't lose his ability to be empathetic or, you know, embrace like people that didn't look like him just happened to be like in the game of politics. He just chose this dumb fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And we don't know why. And, you know, I think it's the same reason you see racist as Democrats are like, what? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Get over it. Absolutely. And that's why I think at the end of the day, we have to be able to really cast aside the labels and shit. And it's really going to boil down to, are you down for other human beings or not?
Starting point is 01:09:50 I don't care about that. Like, don't get caught up in them. Like the stupidity of these, like, you know, voting like issues. Like if you're an issues voter more than like,
Starting point is 01:09:59 I think we need to arrive at a place where we just need to say, there is a lot of pain in the world, but we have the resources to address it. And it's just about shifting the way we look at things to say like let's just do let's just hold each other up because honestly with climate change and these other things that are coming we need to develop the skills to be able to like have each other's backs unfortunately in this country those skills are atrophied to fuck and people do not have them. And it breaks my heart when you see other countries, at least on paper or culturally, be more like willing to sacrifice for each other and know what that's like. But it's foreign.
Starting point is 01:10:35 You're right. And then, yes, you're right. Generalizing never helps when you generalize that a certain type of group are all good i have all good intentions and a certain other group have bad intention i mean yes that happens to people that look like us you know but yeah it's like then we're doing the same yeah it's a generalization you got to be able to at least try and you want to at least be like no that's a nailed on asshole i know them yeah i'm i'm off this and not that you have to take the time to understand people, but at the very least, no, just like we all have nuances and shit. Every single person does. And just to immediately think D or R equals good or bad is like you're going to miss so much shit.
Starting point is 01:11:16 It just sometimes I get so pissed off and I talk through my kind of anger in terms of like what I see, quote unquote, the other side doing, you know. kind of anger in terms of like what i see quote unquote the other side doing you know and it's kind of like even my comment when i said earlier where it's like a lot of times like let's say florida voters that voted republican it's almost like a part of me it's like well you got what you wanted but it's almost like they're also people and it's like when you see people suffering even if it's a decision they made it's like yeah if you have you gotta want the skills of empathy you're like oh that's fucked up for that yeah i don't want that you're actually right i don't want that for another person right so it's like i get angry and then i over generalize and then i look back i'm like no that's not right you know so i apologize for that statement earlier but it's
Starting point is 01:11:59 not but it's growth baby that's why they that's why we do the show you know what i mean man i came on this show for a certain type of person, and I'm leaving a different type of person. You're listening to a guy who listens to too many podcasts. But no, it's absolutely right. And generalizing doesn't help any of us. Yeah. Peter, it's been a pleasure having you, man.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Thank you so much for coming on. Yes. Man, thank you so much. Where can people find you and follow you uh so much for coming on yeah man thank you so much find you and follow you find me on instagram please uh at pbanny p-b-a-n-i uh do uh you know post a lot of like silly videos just sort of about like iranian american culture and so and whatnot and uh thank you so much man thank you so much for uh having me it's just uh anytime yeah hey you on tiktok man you on tiktok i'm on tiktok i don't go on it that much they're not they're not giving you that algorithm love because i feel like your shit would be killing it on tiktok i don't i don't post i
Starting point is 01:12:54 gotta post more on tiktok um maybe my age is just coming out like it's like i feel like i kind of the whole tiktok thing doesn't appeal to me as much. Instagram almost feels like it's more my speed. Although there's aspects of TikTok that I really like and I think is really cool. People who have certain hidden talents are now able to show the whole world how talented they are. So that I really love. Well, I think the great thing of TikTok is, especially for diasporic communities and things they're always like no matter what country it's some version of being from another country in another country
Starting point is 01:13:30 where it's like seeing videos of like what it's like to be a japanese swede or like japanese brit or like black and knees in japan or black and knees in america like it's really interesting to see that so i think a lot of your content would easily like get caught up in there and you don't have to do nothing different just post the same shit you put on instagram except upload it there and use the right hashtags and they got you yeah right man thank you for that suggestion my brother appreciate it no because i feel like it's truly like because it resonates it clearly like resonates with the community so like yeah i feel like that's a great pawn to be in thank you brother thank you so much yeah uh and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying it was a quote that
Starting point is 01:14:10 somebody had posted i can't find it right now it was it was like a several days ago it was a quote and it's uh apparently an old mexican proverb that says uh they tried to bury, but they didn't know we were seeds. And I think that's absolutely beautiful. And anybody who's like sort of comes from a disenfranchised group or minority, it's like that's such a powerful quote. I don't know. I just thought it was beautiful. I had heard it before. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:45 That's the name of a Tamara Catan's podcast too. Yeah. Yeah. Oh really? Yeah. They tried to bury us. Oh man. Oh,
Starting point is 01:14:53 that is, it's like, and I think I heard it first time when he was talking about the podcast. I was like, Oh, I hadn't heard that proverb before, but yeah, it truly is like it's a,
Starting point is 01:15:01 it resonates I think with any oppressed group. Yes, absolutely. And it's just beautiful. It's just any oppressed group yes absolutely and it's just beautiful it's just yeah man so that's something that uh i saw on somebody's instagram and i've been thinking about yeah miles where can people find you what's a tweet you better enjoy oh man uh let's say twitter instagram uh miles of gray g-rA-Y, and also the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance. Some tweets that I like. First one is from Moonlight, at no M-G, but at no E-M-M-E, and then the letter G.
Starting point is 01:15:38 She tweets, if you think poor people should not have children, then you think no one should have to grow up in poverty. So then you agree. We need to eradicate poverty how about not starting at that top part uh and we look at the root issue and i think that's 100 i love seeing tweets like this happens like more and more and more like where people are articulating like that were completely yeah looking at the wrong place and diagnosing problems and the weirdest point uh that you could so yes that's true if but you know at the end of the day they would say well look i'm racist i just said i don't think poor people should have children you got me you got me all right you got i think a lot of these things would end with someone either they're gonna have to agree with that logic or it's going to be like, admit, mask off racism, mask off racist.
Starting point is 01:16:29 I'm sorry. I'm racist, y'all. And I'm not afraid to say it anymore because I can't pretend because I'm not thinking much. The second one is from Eva Cantor at Poe River Jam Band tweet. You could theoretically carbonate barbecue sauce. And that fucked me up. Fuck, man. That's not right. theoretically carbonate barbecue sauce and that fucked me up don't put that in I don't know I don't know if I want to try it but a little fizzy
Starting point is 01:16:54 barbecue dip your whatever in some fizzy cube damn a couple tweets I've been enjoying Aubrey Hirsch tweeted me this edible is trash me 20 minutes later man it's a good thing air is see-through or humans would be so fucked and matthew at tweet potato 314 tweeted why don't little kids ever tear their acl they run dumb as fuck uh that is something i was definitely identifying with over spring break with my kids
Starting point is 01:17:29 while we were both trying to learn to ski and uh man they were taking some big falls that i'm like damn is his leg gonna fall off and he would just pop right back up. But I fall just a little bit. I have to get my leg amputated. Right. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we recommend you go check out.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Miles, what song are we recommending? Just feeling real nostalgic for TLC, but a remix from Fan Mail album, which is obviously going to be No Scrubs, but this is a remix by Hero, H-I-R-O. It's called the Hero Lovesick Edit of No Scrubs. It'll be in the footnotes, but it's on SoundCloud. And it's just got like, it gives it a new energy.
Starting point is 01:18:31 And I love when you could take a song that I'm like, don't touch that song and remix it. And you're like, oh shit, this one, okay. I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. And I think that's the biggest thing. Start out mad at it, and by the end you're like, all right. Or you get mad at reading a title.
Starting point is 01:18:46 You're like, don't fuck with that song. And then you realize someone actually got a clean acapella, and they weren't just playing a loud beat over the original one, and it's actually well thought out. So, yes, check this one out. Get your toe jumping. All right. Well, go check that out.
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