The Daily Zeitgeist - Palestinian Rachel Dolezal, Nathan Fielder vs Elizabeth Holmes 09.24.26

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

In episode 2130, Jack and Miles are joined by author of Cry For Me, Argentina: My Life As A Failed Child Star, Tamara Yajia, to discuss… It’s 2026 And There’s Such A Thing As Palestinian Rachel Dolezal, New Trailer For Nathan Fielder’s Elizabeth Holmes Doc Is Just As Baffling As The Teaser, Run Hide Fight Infidels Is Out, Trump Made Sly Stallone An Ambassador To Hollywood... Sly Had No Idea and more! What Is The 'Why Would I Deceive You?' Meme? The Viral Memes With 'Elizabeth Holmes' And 'Nathan Fielder' Explained You Can See Everything | Official Trailer HD | A24 ‘You Can See Everything’ Trailer: Nathan Fielder Lives With Elizabeth Holmes, Makes Her Cry and Interrogates Her Husband in Documentary Elizabeth Holmes cries as Nathan Fielder confronts her and husband in first documentary trailer Jonathan Majors Fell Through A Window On Daily Wire Action Flick, Leading Crew To Walk Off Set; Producers Say They “Don’t Negotiate With Communists” LISTEN: Marianne by Fontaines D.C.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oh, you know what did happen? The lady who had the diarrhea at the CrossFit thing, she gave up her winner's medal. She was like, I shouldn't, I should have stopped. So? I made a mess. I don't know. I think because the backlash got so, did you know about this?

No. There's like, do you know what Hirox is? It's like CrossFit. So there's huge competitions. Yeah. And there was a huge tournament in China. And this Australian competitor, she had diarrhea mid competition and just didn't stop. And everyone was like,

Bro, you got us. I mean, I get it. The indomitable spirit of a competitor. Let me ask you this, is it she's, like, as she's shitting herself, there are competitors behind her. Yeah, they're all in, like, lanes. So, like, you'll be, like, lifting,

like, carrying a bunch of weight. Okay. With, like, you know, shit streaming down your leg. And someone next year is like, or behind you, you, like, what the fuck? Well, it's like everybody else stopped, but not her. Right. Yeah.

On the other hand. She said, I'm genuinely sorry is what she. Oh, okay. On the other hand. Why do we shit ourselves when we're scared to protect ourselves from predators? So this is just her doing what the human body was designed to do. Is this what like a school nurse told you once after you shit your pants? No.

Why do we do it? That is actually a sign of power. Sit in your power, snakes have venom. You know, porcupines have their quills. Some cowards have their shit that comes out of them that protects them. It does kind of make sense. I don't think that that's correct. That IDS is a survival mechanism?

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My life is a failed child star. Please welcome back to the show, The Hilarious, the talented. Tomorrow you're here! Hey! Hey! Hey! I had a contraction while you were saying that shark song.

I saw your touch your stomach and I go, is it? Because you're 39 weeks pregnant? Yeah, I'm like nine and a half months. It's the most pregnant. I've ever been. Every day will be the most making you've ever been.

Thank you for coming in. This is incredible. Oh my God. What else am I going to do? I know. At first I was like, are you okay to come in? And you did say,

no, I need to get out of the house. Yeah. Or I'm laying down all day. I'm laying down all day. This way I'm talking to people, like the babies experiencing things. Oh,

you can show the baby, this clip. How many times? There you are. Oh, it's amazing. There you are in that part where they were talking about diarrhea. Yeah.

And I was grabbing my stomach when he was talking about Mac the knife. I came, I did this podcast in my first, second, and now third trimester. That's so what. Isn't that special? Right before. Yeah. You were one of the first two people that found out. Yeah.

Over Zoom. Wow. Because I don't think, did you say it on air? I think afterwards you told us. Yeah. I couldn't tell people yet because it was like too soon. And then we cut that into the episode. Yeah.

Right. We did. We did. Total betrayal of trust. But it's okay. It was worth it. Wow. You're like godfathers.

I know. Look at us. You heard that, you heard that, right? We're podfathers. Can I say his name? Yeah. Dad, you heard that. Okay.

My husband's sitting here monitoring everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should be. I mean, with 39 and a half weeks pregnant? Yeah, I didn't know you could go to, you went to 10 months. It's not nine months pregnant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah.

That's, right? Why they say nine months when it's 10 months? I don't know. Nine times four, 36 weeks. I don't know, because it's in around 30. Because you complete the nine months. Yeah, I don't know. At this point, I'm just like a sort of job of the hut that like moves around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. With a better talk. Because male doctors were just like, ah, whatever. Nine months. It's nine-ish. Do you remember that movie nine months with you, Grant and Tom Arnold? Yeah, now you're talking about my favorite movie. I've learned two together.

That was one of, you know, like, you're in trouble. You know, like, weird movies that have medical scenes inform your understanding of like actual science. I've never given birth as a 12-year-old boy. But I was like, oh, okay, so if they carried up here, it's a girl. And if they carried down. Although it's a boy. Because Tom Arnold said that with a basketball at a toy store. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I remember saying that's like a pregnant, like adult friend of my parents. I'm like, that looks like you can be a boy because it's lower. And they're like, what? The shit people tell you. It's unbelievable. Yeah. The boy thing everybody's like, oh, you're having a boy, right? I'm like, no, not really.

And they're like, oh, because it's low down. Yeah. What's that based off of nine months? Nine months? Nine months. Have you seen a moon nine months? It's all based off of nine months. Tom Arnold said.

Yeah. Yeah. we actually didn't have a OB-GYM when we gave her. We just went off of nine months. We're like, we're covered. We're good guys. Baby, you're a doctor and I've seen nine months. So I think we're all right here.

I think so will call me a subject matter expert, an SME, if you will. Anyways, thank you so much for being here. A pleasure. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We've got a Palestinian-Rachel Dolazol that just dropped in Philadelphia. Oh, my God. New genre.

of Rachel Dahlzal Philadelphia, Palestinian. Wait till I unravel this for everyone. Remember, because I was talking about how Instagram thinks I'm from Philadelphia. Yeah. So I'm getting a ton of many ways you're a Philadelphia,

Rachel Dahl. Pretending. I'm a stolen valor. Rachel Dullochal. Yeah. Check out this new article in the inquire. So now I'm getting a ton of Philadelphia Inquirer posts and I'm like,

Perfect. Throughout which, I mean, this is becoming a national story, but I credit my Philadelphia and Rachel Belichshall. Yeah. All right. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the trailer for the new Nathan Fielder, Elizabeth Holmes documentary that gave everybody chills.

I'm still weird. And you like don't know why. I feel like any bad drugs. Yes. I don't know if you know this term like the drug freakouts? If you're like kind of high and like, something's wrong. Oh, you mean every time I took drugs? Yeah.

That's what that trailer. made me feeling like something's wrong. Yeah. But I kind of like it. My skin always feel like this. Yeah. I tried to have a therapy session when I was on mushrooms with my ex-boyfriend and I would break up with him.

We were like high as kite. Like with a therapist? No, like I was the therapist. Oh. And I was like, let's sit down and discuss our relationship. And that was the worst feeling of like, that's what that trailer made me feel. I couldn't think of, yeah, you're on mushrooms and you're like, let's dig up some deep. Yeah.

Shit. Let's actually go deep. Yeah. Fucking just grab it by the scrush. Going nose to nose with that shit. We're going to talk about that trailer. We're going to talk about another thing. We don't have to go off the trailer anymore, folks.

Run, hide, fight infidels is out. Yeah. We've all seen. Oh, no, I guess we haven't seen it. Oh, you did? I still haven't seen it. There were free tickets at the box of it. But this is the new daily wire joint.

Yeah. It has some pretty incredible moments that are going viral. for all the wrong reasons. We're going to talk about Slice Stallone's role in the Trump administration or lack thereof and just take this opportunity to marvel at Slice Stallone's face. Yeah, and even though. He looks like he has another face under his face at this point. The filler is terrifying.

That's what I look like right now, nine months pregnant. No, but the thing is, Tim, you're not pulling off the swollen catcher's mitt face like he is. He looks incredible. Yeah, I mean, what is he? It's a sort of clown. 79 years old. He looks great. He put up one that I put in the dock, too.

I just, there's something. Yeah, it's just like, there it is. The filler looks a little uneven. Uneven. He went too hard on his left side. Is he doing at home filler? He's a sort of chipmunk. Yeah.

Oh, well, look. It's kind of wild. I love you. I don't know, maybe we don't. All of that plenty more, but first time, we do like to ask our guests. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Well, my last search history was, what are warts? Did you guys know what warts are?

No. And now that you mention it, I should. Yeah. I have a wart on my face. I think it's pregnancy related. But it's actually, you get a cut on your skin and then HPV enters. What? Oh.

Can you believe? It can't be right. Right? I mean, you tell me. I don't trust Google now because you get those AI searches. Well, that's why you don't look at that. You always have to turn that off because that's the dummy zone of the internet. That will make you progressively stupid or if you rely on whatever.

Ignore the dummy zone of the Google research results. And that's what I'm reading to you. Yeah. But there must be some truth. I don't know if it's what I have in my face. Look, you guys, do you see it? Uh-huh. That's HPB.

That's HPV on my space. No, wow. Most commonly the human botryoma virus causing small, rough surface. You get a cut and then the papaloma enters. It's amazing the things you don't know about your body. So what does that mean? There's this HPV, like ambient. Like, because like if they say like if you get it on your foot, like a planter ward.

Yeah. Right. Like, but it comes from your hand and you've been touching an HPV. Wow. I've been touching an HPV. I have a feeling this is wildly scientific. That's what I think too. But it does say that that is, it's, this is from the St. Louis Children's Hospital.

Why would they lie? Right. Or it's our common about 10% again of children and are caused by a virus, most commonly, human papillomal virus. I think there's different kinds of human papilloma. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know, but it's crazy the things of our bodies that we don't know.

It's like, where's my liver? Like the other day I was like, what is a contraction? How does birth happen, you know? Yeah. I can't quite explain it to you, but basically. Basically, a contraction means your, not your pussy, but you're dilating. Your pussy's opening. Oh, okay.

So it pulls up. It goes, and meanwhile, your hole is expanding. That, yeah. And then when the baby's going to come out, it does the opposite. It pushes. It goes, right, right. And then. Again, this is how your doctor explained it to you, right?

Is your doctor a doctor? This is also me looking online. Googling how birth. I just look at the top of Google. That's what it said. Damn. So words go away, though, right? Because I remember I had a word on my hand when I was a kid.

Lots of kids get warts on their hands. I don't have to tell you how I got it. I guess anymore. Is that when you were working on a farm? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Were you touching the cows? You know what I'm so?

Wow. I'll get them all burned to all because pregnancy can bring on skin tags and stuff. Dude, pregnancy brings out all kinds of things. It's amazing. I'm like a Christmas tree with ornaments hanging off of it. Temporary. Are you having heartburn, too? Yes.

Okay. So that baby's going to have a thick head of hair. That does feel like the thing that is consistent. A doctor said that's not an old wife's tale. That's actually real. Good, good, good. She has hair. That seems like the most made up one though.

Like I heard that too. Yeah. That's going to be a lot of dick head of hair on that one. Right. The growing of hair causes heartburn. Yeah. What? No.

The fuck are you talking? about. Oh, are you a doctor? No, but I just don't like what you say. Right. So, like, fuck that. Babe's going to be all hairy and shit. What is something you think is underrated? Oh, has anybody said bidets ever? Oh, yeah. Bidays. Yeah, yeah. Let me just tell you something. Okay. I'm from Argentina where there's bidet in every bathroom. Oh. I was raised with a bidet. Uh-huh. And now, not to bring it all back to pregnancy, see, even though that's what I'm experiencing right now, it's hard to wipe my ass.

Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I would really love a bidet and Americans don't have them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got one at your house, though, probably, right? No, I don't. You don't have the attachment? I don't have the attachment.

But I started, I know, this is just pure laziness. I need to get one because there's always shit stuck. And now I'm doing the wet wipes. Just blast it off with the water, baby. Let's get one. Wow, we're making big decisions here. For Christmas. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, you have a delivery to get to. So we can, we'll put a pin in that. Maybe you guys can buy me one. I think that's exactly. Oh, thank you. Give us your address. Okay, okay.

And your social security number and your data. And your credit, some other stuff. But we will send you one, yes, for sure. It is important to our effort. For real, for us. I'm so excited. Yeah.

You need, what's the one that used to advertise? No promo, but, no promo, but a tushy. Tushy. Oh, that's the brand? That's like the easy. That's like the one you can just put on your toilet seat. And then you can just, boop, boom, turn it on and on. See?

And I thought I was like this big bidet noer. And like, I'm the last one in the United States to have a bidet, I guess. Oh, yeah. When my house burned down, the first thing I did was get a Japanese toilet seat. Like, because I was like, I got nothing. But I will have the cleanest asshole in the way that my ancestors designed it technologically. It's important. It's important.

Okay. Yeah. Changes will happen. Yeah. Good, good, good. Should have been listening to the ads, not skipping through the ads. guys. Yeah, you got a promo code.

You're going to cost us $20, damn. Oh, okay, great, great. What is something you think is overrated? Thoughts, thinking. I, like, haven't been thinking lately, and it's so nice. Wait, like, you can't summon thoughts? Yeah, I'm just like, uh, like, flying brain activity.

It's like Homer Simpson style. Like, that's why I'm like, I need to come on a podcast so I can, like, activate. Yeah. Because I'm just like, uh, and I just watch, like, Eileen Warno stuff and I'm like it's all my only. What's Eileen Warno's? The serial killer.

Oh yeah, yeah. Monster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like stuff about her and she was amazing. She shouldn't have died and it's like all I think about is kind of like nothing or Eileen Warnos. Yeah. And it's great. Yeah. No other thoughts at all. It's you're truly nothing or I'm

nothing or am I having a contraction? Sure. And that's it. Yeah. Is Am I? Are you always, were you always into murder stuff or has the pregnancy, like, kind of been like, yeah, I'm kind of down to watch the articles and murder stuff. Do you remember you said I had the Antichrist inside last time I came or something like that? That was a cool thing to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We had to laugh. You know, it felt good. There was a darkness. No, I've been darker during the pregnancy for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm into it. Yeah. But like these last two months, there's kind of nothing going on upstairs.

Yeah, because all your energies is going south. To my vagina. Yeah. To your womb. Yeah. Yeah. So I recommend it if you ever. Just not think.

Can just turn it off. Not want to think. Yeah. And you're not missing it. No. You can turn it off and you won't be like, ah, haven't thought in a while. I think about it and I'm like, oh, I can't wait to keep not thinking. Right.

Guys, it's wonderful. I guess that's what antidepressants do a little bit or like drugs. They can do that too. Yeah. Dull some of the thinking. Yeah. Well, you're about to do a lot of thinking. That's what I'm saying.

I'm cheering the fuck out right now. Yeah, yeah. Let your brain be a little break because it's about to change. I wonder if that's what aging is because the studies show that people as they get older become happier. I wonder if it's just like like started turning the stuff a little bit. Totally. Yeah. I was just remembering when I was like in my 20s like freaking out about guys.

Yeah. Sure. Right. Relationships. Like what the, all this waste of. I were being stressed about how to text. Like a date back? And I'm like, what am I fucking doing?

Do I do? What do I do? But also now I'm just like a washed married person. So it's like, I don't know. Well, now I'm like, how do I argue with my wife over text now? Right. But it's like still easier. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, because you're not going to break up. Right. Yeah, we love each other. It's great. What did what did the movie monster get wrong? Anything? Well, I haven't watched Monster. I watched Monster a couple years ago.

But now I'm watching the, there's a documentary. about her on Netflix. Sure. Right. She was a star. Really? She was a big personality. Yeah, she was amazing.

Like, she had a fucked up life. She was, like, raped a bunch of times. Then she said, fuck this. I'm over it. I'm going to start killing people. And like, good for her. Yeah. And also like, sorry.

Wow, I'm fired up. No, she's a star. No, I like going. She's a star. Like, she would be super famous today. She is super famous for me. I don't know. I just think like she should still be alive.

today. What do you mean like not? Was she executed? The electric chaired her. Oh, so you at the very least you're like, how about a life? A life.

That's what I'm saying. Fine. Because it would be more content. Exactly. Could be writing to her. The trial was unfair. It was all unfair. If you could talk to Eileen Warnos,

what would you ask her and what would you tell her? I would ask her to give me a little kiss. Bites your fucking cheek off. No, she would be nice. She's nice for women. Yeah. Okay. and then what would you tell her about like what she,

if she's like, what? That I love her. Wow. Great. I love you and can you give me a kiss? How cute is that? Yeah. You have a podcasting career.

Elaine Warner. Yeah. Hell yeah. Amazing. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We will talk about Palestinian, Rachel Dalzol.

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Oh, we're coming back to win. And we're back. And we, a new character just dropped. Yeah. Add it to the tournament of stories for the year, the end of the year. I know. You know, big, this is a big one. I think two new characters dropped that we're going to cover in this, in, in this section of the show.

Sure, sure. Absolutely. Yeah. Because also, I was not familiar with Elizabeth Holmes' husband. husband's game. None of us were. None of us were. Yeah.

But this All-Star is named Hannah Gann. And if you Googled her two weeks ago, you probably would have found write-ups and bios talking about how she's a veteran high school teacher working predominantly with black youth in Philadelphia public schools. You would have read that she was organizing students to protest the genocide and also scholasticide, like the destruction of schools, as well as passionately defending colleagues that risk their careers to speak up. And you would have read that pro-Israeli groups parked a mobile billboard outside of the school she taught at that said Philadelphia is leading anti-Semite.

Okay. So you're like, oh, shit, okay. So she's, she's about that. And you would have also read that she is Palestinian and black. Her grandfather was born in Palestine, but came to the United States. Well, it turns out that while her teaching accolades and activism were real, her identity was completely made up. Hanagan was not black, is not black, and she was not, is not Palestinian either.

That grandfather she was talking about was some guy who was born in Baltimore. Okay. I see where she was coming from. Baltimore is pretty active, to be fair. You're like, what the fuck? No, Hanagan is white,

Jewish, and actually comes from a wealthy family of Israeli settlers in the West Bank. Wow. The universe really gives. Yeah. Truly.

Everyone collected was like, huh? This all came out after like groups that she had worked with had heard about this and like basically grilled her for like an hour asking about her background. And I'll just read like what the what this, the what happened during this like meeting. Well, members met with Hannah and questioned her about her background on Thursday. After an hour of discussion, Hannah finally admitted she lied.

The Radical Justice Organizing Committee and Philly Educators for Palestine said in a statement. Gann had been a visible member of both groups. Quote, we asked her to publicly acknowledge that she is a white woman of Jewish heritage and an Israeli settler family. And so she's come out. She's made a statement in an Instagram post. She admitted the years-long fabrication that said she was a, quote, white woman of significant privilege and wealth. Quote, I hid the truth or outright lied about my background to everyone in my life. There was not a single person on this planet, no friend, no fellow work.

organizer, no one in my family, no professional connection, no secret op or handler who knew what I was doing. I hid my family's background from everyone in Philly and also hid from the people in my own family what I was doing. She said she, quote, allowed half truths and obfuscations to grow into outright lies, like when people think I'm from Philadelphia. Quote, genuinely wanted to commit to the work I was doing in spite of those lies. Now, what does this woman look like? She, okay, let me show you. Like I can't picture anything. I picture Rachel Dole as all.

Yeah. You're not that far off. Okay, here. Oh, wait, hold on. The Philadelphia inquiry just said, hey, well, let me just. Like, hey, you seem like you're really sick with this Philly shit, man. You want to subscribe? Oh, wow.

Whoa. That's what she was. What? So they were saying that she was using, like, she was using makeup. Yeah, you can tell. Yeah, she's orange. She's orange. Yeah.

If I was, I would have been like, oh, really? Where's your family from? That's interesting, interesting shade of orange that you are. Yeah. So this is obviously, like the betrayal has just shocked everybody that was working with her because they're like, I mean, she's so passionate about what she was doing. Right. And she was like, what is all this?

You know, but again, I think we have this woman pretending to be black and Palestinian creating like fake common ground over. oppression with her students, only to be unmatched as a LARPERS is fucking diabolical. Yeah. Wow. I think, you know, even though she genuinely seems to have her heart in the right place, like white supremacy has completely altered how she looks at oppression even. Right.

Like, she felt that using these identities, like, interchangeably bolstered her case as an activist. Yeah. And she wanted to maintain. Also, she gets to maintain her whiteness by fighting white supremacy as a black Palestinian. She's not a white person fighting white supremacist. She's not a traitor to her class or race. Which could have been more helpful in many ways. Yeah, it would have been more poignant.

Instead, she uses a very disposable identity because now she gets to go back to her privileged life. Right. You know what I mean? It's like, I mean, I don't know if her parents, like her parents are like, Hannah. What do you do as a parent? I mean, the thing is, as a parent, like, you've sewn that seat. Like, there's no way the family's normal. Oh, they're settlers.

They're like, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, that's like narcissism, like, yeah, yeah, that has to be about her. That's like the kind of family, like, where, like, I've, you know, you know people in like high pressure families, like where they can't tell their parents anything. Right. Yeah, yeah. Because they're like, dude, I guess I'd rather just say I'm black and Palestinian at this point than like even talk to my family. But yeah, I think it's just a very, again, looks at even to her like being a black Palestinian is like a disposable identity.

Even just to be like, oh, oh, well, it's like a tool I can use for the. this very specific purpose. But even then, it's so misguided because, like, to your point, you should be doing that as like an outspoken Israeli. Sure. Right. Yeah. Being like, this is what my family is. And I can tell that it's wrong. Yeah. And I don't, yeah, like, you don't have to then start using shitty, you know, CVS Tanner and shit and makeup and trying to be like, anyway, girl, because they said after she came back from teaching, uh, she's doing like Peace Corps work, I think in Rwanda. Like there was a like kind of a reset where people did didn't know her.

Yeah. And then she kind of was like in these spaces, kind of using AVE a little bit more talking like a, you know, black woman and then the Palestinian. And she just kind of like let that snowball into this thing now. I had a fake accent for like six months. Really? Well, I'm just, I'm only, I'm only trying to tell you because it's like people love to reimagine themselves.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, they're not comparing. My fake accent. Wait, hold on. Yeah. I know. Yours isn't because you're doing activism. I'm trying to relay of like how does the like how mentally ill are you?

I would guess I was pretty mentally ill when I was faking this accent for six months. Because it's probably harder. It's because it is harder to betray your people in the face of an injustice. Right. It's easier to be like, well, I'm black and Palestinian. Of course this is some bullshit going on. Right. Fuck all this.

And it gets to feel heroic in the moment. Yeah. opposed to like being, you know, uncomfortable and being like, this is who I am. This is who my family is. She doesn't want to be a gentrifier going to your neighbor going, oh, my God, sorry. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. So it's even like, get these motherfuckers out of here.

Right. And it's like, well, isn't that you? So is Rachel Dolazol now like a more accepted? Do you think in society? Like, do you feel like people have come around to her now that she's like done only fans? Like, yeah. I don't know if the only fans helped. I mean, it might be helping her financially,

but I feel like she's, I mean, I just tried to Google what she was doing, but now everybody's calling this lady Rachel Dolanjol. So she just pops up. I think a lot of time has passed. And this is more harmful because there's like. Rachel Dolazzo somewhere just feeling like, oh, yeah. Damn, got that bump, but it ain't me anymore. But also, damn, now I'm a word.

Yeah, you are. I mean, yeah, you always work. Yeah, you are. Yeah, it's just a very, again, it's like, yeah. And it's just, I feel bad these students. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's rough. I don't think people, like, if you really think about what it takes for a student to open up to a teacher and be like, yeah, like, I'm going to be receptive to what you're saying.

I'll be vulnerable with you so we can create some kind of connection to use race in like such a like diabolically, uh, cynical, two-faced way is so fucking terrible. Like I really feel for these students because like, now you're like, who the fuck were you? It's like a really fucked version of that children's book, Miss Nelson is missing. Where like, do you remember that one? No. It's like this blonde teacher has like a bad class and then she disappears. Oh, and like this, this like scary witch comes in as like the new substitute teacher, but it's actually the blonde lady in like basically witch face.

Oh, shit. I didn't know that. Real mind. I know. When I looked up the picture, I'm like, yes. I know this. I know this book very well. I know this book very well.

She's just trying on a new little persona. She's trying something on and just larping in the face of like a very, very, as Ed Shearine would call it the most complex political issue on Earth. Oh, my God. But yeah, so it's, we'll see what, we'll see where she goes or this. Apparently she's trying to just be like, ah, yeah, I fucked up. I fucked up. I fucked up. I fucked up bad.

But, I mean, that's that. We'll see what happens. We will see. Yeah. We will see. Maybe she'll have a show on like Fox or something. Probably. Yeah.

Who knows? Or even MS now. You know, who knows? We believe in the ability to rehabilitate. She'll star in the next Daily Wire movie as like one of the people for the confidels to kill. You never know. All right. We do have to talk about this Nathan Fielder, Elizabeth Holmes documentary.

You can see everything just dropped a new trailer where we got to see more parts and got to see a little bit more of everything. Yeah. And it's, it didn't make me feel less weird. No, I'm unwell. No, the first one, like the first teaser we got was just a very tense interaction, right? Yeah, sure. Between the two. This time, like, you're getting more, it's like a full trailer, so you're getting a real breath of what this project might look like.

And I don't know if, like, Nathan Fielder's in trouble. If Elizabeth Holmes in it, I don't know what's going on, but every single thing they just sort of revealed was. Yeah. Shocking. It was giving me goosebumps. The, the husband being a part, I didn't know anything obviously. But I didn't even know anything about her husband. Yes.

But like now I'm dying to see it. The husband thing is so Nathan Fielder's like, so you fell in love with her. He's like fell in love with her right away. He was like, was that before or after you knew who she was? That was Beno was before. It was before. Which is like how? Yeah.

Where were you during the when she was like on the cover of every magazine for like being a scammer? But anyways. and then he's like, and you weren't, when you found out, you weren't worried that she was, like, coming after you for a reason? And he's like, what would she be using me for? And he's like, isn't your family rich? And he's like, and he goes, yeah, but like, there's like levels to it. Like, we're, yeah, we're rich. We're not like oligarchs.

We're like petite, piti oligarchs. Yeah, great insight into like the mind of somebody with generational wealth. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but we're not like the DuPonts. It's like, right. We have like hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah, like 900 million, 50, 950 million probably. All told.

Right. I'm sorry, that's what it's in my trust. In my trust is 950 million. Yeah, yeah. That's, that's more I've access to. We don't want that billionaire tax. But yeah, seeing that was just to see like also that like, it's not just her lying to herself.

There's this partner now who like, now you're fascinated by like how much do you realize. And it, you can tell like, Nathan's trying to kind of be like, I don't think she's ever lied to you. Right. Like, just kind of taking him aside. It's... And like, I feel like she's also,

even though he's probably the worst person, like she's conning him, but I also feel like she's conning Nathan. Yeah. Like, there's no world where he's conned by her, but like it, but that's what it made me feel. Right.

Like, I feel crazy. All of the, like, the quotes that came up during the trailer also were bone chilling for me. I've never seen quotes come up like from critics. Yeah. On a trailer. Usually it's like five stars. This is a good movie.

But this one is always like I'm having an existential crisis. I like Roger Ebert like no other film I've ever experienced. Interesting. They're all like I'm kind of feel fucked. Yeah. Yeah. There was one that was like I will be thinking for this, about this movie for the rest of my life.

What was it? Variety. it said a, this is, this was the variety quote, a weirder and weirder journey than anyone might expect. And like the one you were talking about, wait, where is it? Someone, outright masterpiece. Oh yeah. This was

from awards radar. I may think about this movie for the rest of my life. That's the best blurb you could ever get. That really is. And like it's also not necessarily complimentary. No, no, no, no. I mean, not that it's bad for the film, but like just like the content was so jarring probably. It feels

like probably the way people reacted that first season of the rehearsal. Oh, my God. Oh, Nathan's like some kind of genius here. Like a sicko too. Yeah, just odd. But the way he's arriving at these things is so odd and roundabout. But like I can only imagine with this and Lance Oppenheim, who's just a great director

too. Yeah. I rode in an elevator with Nathan Fielder once and he was facing the back. He was facing like the wall? The people. Oh, like he got in the elevator. The doors closed and he's like. faced me.

So the door was like this, it closed. Yeah. And he didn't look at the door. Yeah, he just faced the people that were away. It was amazing. Were you at like an agency office or something? It was like, yeah, it was like a bit showbiz. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was going to say, like, I feel like that's the only place I've seen Nathan Filder who was like, I was at a meeting. Was he making eye contact with you? Um, I was too anxious to make eye contact back. But yeah, he was just kind of staring back at people. Yeah. That's interesting. Not a lot of people do that. No.

No, nobody does that. I know it's fucking crazy. Nobody does that. You're right. Guys, we should do it and see what happens. I believe you get your ass kicked. Yeah, no. I guess what if you come in?

Is there a way you could walk in with your back to the door and kind of play it cool? You got to say something. You can't just do it and I say you got to be like, hey, you know? Or like, how's everybody doing? Does the door close and like you lean on it like James Dean style? That's the scariest. It's like walking your way. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Yeah, I didn't think about that. No one's getting out. Hey lady, you think this is cool. I'm blocking the elevator doors to you and me. My God. Yeah, I saw him live once. And all he did was get up on stage, perform a Lana Del Rey song while making unblinking eye contact with the crowd in very slow, like the most uncomfortable five minutes. Like a cappella?

Yeah. Well, the backing track, but just sitting there like dancing slowly, sang the Lana Del Rey song, like looking at everybody. And then spent the whole thing being like, So I'm kind of good at like finding interesting people and like just was like looking into the crowd, like shielding his eyes from the light, looking into the crowd and then just pulling people up. And like two out of the three were like probably the weirdest people in the crowd. And like he can just like find them. He like interviewed them. And the third that wasn't the most interesting person like halfway through like, you know, five minutes into the conversation.

He was like, oh, you're drunk. Sorry. Sometimes it's I get confused. I think they're interesting and they're actually drunk. Whoa. He's like a psychic. He's like he has this weird. I think maybe that's what's so wild about this trailer is because like everyone's

already in awe of Nathan Fielder in that way. And everyone's in awe in another weird way of with Elizabeth Holmes. And to see them interact where Nathan Fielder is somehow in the back foot is like, you're like, what? No, no. Usually like you're dancing circles around weird people on camera. And you're in this one. you're genuinely like, fuck, I think I may have met my match.

Yeah. Whoa. I have chills. And she's in jail now, yeah? Yeah. So this was filmed right as she was about to go to jail. For over three years. Yeah.

Or they've been working on the last three years. But like, has not leaked one like, damn. No. Not like in that sense. There was a time where people saw Nathan outside of the jail. Uh-huh. And people were like, why is Nathan feel it outside the jail? Holding a boombox that was playing your eyes.

I think he might be compromised. But yeah, like, that was the closest, like, that was the only thing I could connect. Where I was like, oh, that's right. He was at that jail. And you're like, oh, this must have been for that. There is, for fans, long-time fans of his work, you get a little, a little treat because it has him laying in bed with the couple, like, doing the sort of side saddle thing, which he loves. He loves to sit, yeah.

He loves to do like a weird, like, laying in bed with people. It just looks so weird. And I can only imagine how, again, I'm so curious to see it. Because I feel like you're going to see moments where like he's probably suggesting a way to do an interview and there's like a pushback or whatever. Just seeing all these little micro interactions, I think is fascinating. Because, I mean, we're all just looking at Elizabeth Holmes's face. I feel we all had the same reaction for that last shot when she was like, oh, my God, what did she say? I have trouble.

I've never. It took me a really long time to be okay with letting someone see me cry. And then like wills the tears since rising And then That one It was We were cheering in like a

Like a way We saw like a sharky to seal Yeah And the the You know Audio, the soundtrack When the tear comes Is like the omen

It's like dong That's the tear rolls on her face Like she modeled a lot of her shit Off of Steve Jobs And we did a Steve Jobs Icon episode And a thing that people who worked with him talked about was a thing called the reality distortion field where he you would

like be in a room with him and you'd know he was lying to you like he'd be taking credit for an idea you pitched him yesterday and he was like that idea fucking sucks get out of here you come in the next day and he's pitching an idea to you the same idea to you and a room full of people and people are like but you like believe him like he he has this like weird form of sociopathy where like, to the point that everybody worked with him had a phrase for it called the reality distortion field where you just like

when you're around him, you're like in this different thing and it takes you like a week of not being around him to be like, wait, that was fucking crazy right? And so I feel like she is like that's kind of what I'm reminded of. But she's not even like a wannabe of, you know what I mean? She's got the gift.

Well, we felt that after watching us seven second trailer. Yeah, right. Like, yeah, it's insane. I think like, oh, no, I could, that I would never. Yeah, right. And you do. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's like, you know, like any kind of people like, people like, like, negotiate, like, you call about framing and stuff. Like how like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're actually dictating what the parameters are of an interaction. Yeah.

And she's just mastered that in a way where just, just like when he's clear, like, are you like, no. How would I lie to you? Wow. I have nothing to lie to you about. There's part of me that's, a psychopath that wishes I could be like that. I never could.

It's cool. I mean, look, you look up to, I mean, let's think about the documentary. I mean, I would never be like that. I'm like a kind person, but like, I want to experience manipulation. Yeah, yeah. On that's, but on that scale. No, not on that scale. I wish.

I mean, I wish I could do something like on that scale. It takes way too much energy. Well, I think like in relation to Warnos, I do feel like, were this a guy should probably just be a billionaire right now who's like at the forefront of AI or some shit. You know, like, I do think that, you know, the reason we're fascinated in that

is because it is just like a superpower in America. Yeah. Like having the ability to... It is very American. You're right. Oh, it's... Yeah. Just be full of shit and collect money for that. In a way that you can, like, convince everybody and yourself of whatever is beneficial

for you to believe in this moment. Well, I'm thinking now like Hitler. Mm-hmm. I mean, like, it's not like quintessential American. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amazing dictators. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Amazing dictators. Go. All right. All fantasy, everything. Which is your favorite. Yeah. I want to go up with Pol Pot first. Unexpected.

I know, dude. Wait, who is that? I don't know who that is. I don't either. I got to go. I'm going to Google it. Let's see. But yeah, I mean, I think it is like,

It is this thing that in America, we just love a fucking liar. You know what I mean? In this weird way. Like, think of like, you know, catch me if you can. Yeah. Pretty much. Everything. Yeah, everything like, all the characters, Leonardo DiCaprio is played.

Like, when you played Jordan, what's his face? And both Wall Street. Like, we kind of are like, the best. Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah. Although with Pheranos, it's more people are like, what though? Because I think it was such a blatant, like, being like, there's no fucking machine. There's no technology.

But in the same way, I mean, I don't know, we're all experiencing some level of that. It's like a magic trick. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's like they're magicians. Yeah. Her voice is not as low as it used to be, though. But it is.

It's still low, but I find it fascinating. If it had been like, so, I would have been like, oh. It's just trying to go lower. It's so weird. Right, right. It's like right at this level where I'm like, is that her voice? Like, I feel like she's mastered it. Totally.

Yeah, yeah. And it almost feels like because of. like the sort of like PR marketing version of the Theranos Elizabeth Holmes we've seen. Yeah. It almost feels like, oh, are you being real now? Yeah. In a weird way. Like, it's like you, she seems a little more like soothing.

Yes. But underneath it, it's like feels like you're still like in a tank with a great white. It's saying she's a mother. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That poor, poor baby. Yeah. Well, I don't think the baby will be poor because the husband's right.

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oh, what are they going to do if they break a nail? No one's going to show up. But from the very beginning, there were two teams that captured everyone's attention. The Comets were the real deal. I mean, come on. The Liberty never gave up. They never stopped fighting. I knew that rivalry was going to be amazing from the beginning. I'm Cary Champion, and this is biggest rivalries of all time, season two. The New York Liberty versus the Houston Comets, the very first rivalry of the WNBA.

They picked us to finish last, and they picked them to finish first. That's all you need to know. I remember looking around thinking, this is going to change things. basketball was going to have this fundamental impact on the way people viewed women athletes. Listen to biggest rivalries of all time on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Is there bad blood between you in the comments as you guys meet again in the championship? Oh, we're coming back to win. And we're back.

We're back. And we are back. And you're great? I'm great. All right. Sorry. I did just want to. I never check with people before we come back. Before we come back. Yeah. I'm totally fine.

You would have someone. No, I mean, I get up and there's just like a. Amniotic fluid. I've been sitting on a baby. Oh, my God, damn. Oh, shit. Oh, wow. I'm just dragging her out.

Great. All right. We'll get it. Well, we'll clean it up. It's just the baby's there. Or like, like, as you get up. Whoop. Seamless.

Maybe just sitting on the chair. Like being polite. Sorry, I didn't want to interrupt your recording. So polite. All right. We got to talk daily, why are you guys? Yeah, sure, sure. We were talking about this movie a while back because during production,

there was stuff happening. Like, it felt very much like a internet production type thing. Like, people were, they were doing the sorts of stunts that you would do in a Hollywood action movie, but they didn't have the people or the infrastructure in place, so people were, like, jumping through windows

and getting cut off because they, like, didn't know what the fuck they were doing. The entire crew walked off the set of the movie in the middle of the movie. They were so unsafe, right? Yeah, it was very unsafe. You guys, this is a joke production.

Yeah, yeah. But, so this is the latest cinema offering from the Daily Wire. I didn't realize they're not putting these out in theaters anymore. The original idea was like, we're going to put all these movies out in theaters and we're going to defeat Hollywood with our right-wing offerings because that's what everybody's always been waiting for. They're not going to show this in theaters? No, which is weird because their whole thesis was everyone's just waiting for this bullshit, woke Hollywood shit to stop.

Right. And for us to step in and start making the sorts of movies that they actually want to see. People want pure uncut Islamophobia. Yes. Yes. They want to be sniffing base. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And so I think they did start out by putting them out in theaters. And like the box office returns were like $30. It wasn't like, it wasn't the ones where like they'll be like, and this movie made $2.3 million dollars. A historic failure. They're like, they sold 72 tickets. Like we could actually count the number of tickets.

And someone left a 20 in their seat. So I think that that counts to the. They're claiming that. They are claiming that. Ben Shapiro's like, that's mine also. Yeah. And the 72 tickets. What they don't want to tell you about is that people left 20 as a tip for us.

That's how good myself was. Also, thanks to the haters. Yeah. That's what he said. He posted a video that was titled, Thanks to the haters. Our movie is a hit. Which one? This shit.

This one. I don't know anything about, are they, like, written? Are they like documentaries? What are they? No, this is an action. Propaganda. a film. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Should I read? Yeah, I want to know, like, some titles or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the first one was called

Run, Hyde Fight, and it was like a school shooting movie where it was like, we're tired of these school shootings and our solution to

what, like, fight back against school shooters. Right, right. It's just like people, the children don't, aren't armed enough, I think is sort of the thesis

that they were going into that one. It's a nonsense. It's, again, nonsense. But it's, Here, let me just read part of, like, what the plot is. So this is the sequel. A Delta Force mission led by Captain Clay Saunders to capture ISIS leader Assad al-Madi in Somalia as a success, but his friend and colleague.

Anyway, so what happened, this is, this is way to it. Essentially what happens is ISIS takes over a college campus. Okay. And then basically, like, deems it a caliphate. And then Jonathan Majors is trying to get you to forget about any of his allegations by fighting them. Right. Yeah. actual Jonathan Majors.

This is where Jonathan Majors is in. This is Jonathan Majors. My God. Yeah. Yep, that, he has some pretty incredible lines that we'll get, too. I do kind of want to watch it.

It's, I mean, from what I've seen, like, as people have been posting clips on it, it is one of the most poorly acted, terribly thought out films. It's,

it's got acting, like, from a 70s porn, like, you know, like the sort of, John Waters, yeah,

yeah, where it's like the acting is supposed to be bad maybe or yeah like 70s horror movie that like didn't get released in theaters type acting the so they go it's like the argument that they like to make where people are like oh you protests on behalf of Palestinians they would kill you they would fucking kill you dude and then they just have like a series of snuff films uh like just poorly staged kills uh where they the terrorists kill somebody for having a gluten allergy yeah for being gay. Well, that seems wild because

it's like a blue-haired guy and like a purple-haired lady. Yeah, yeah. And like the guy's like, and he's like, what about you? And she's like, I like every like kind of, you're not afraid of the like sexually She was like, I like, I like everyone. And he's like, you and he's like, men. And then he just kicks

that guy off the roof. And he's like off the roof and the guy takes 45 seconds to fall to ground. Yeah. It's the wildest. Like jazz. It's a little overacted like string stunt you've ever seen. And it's like so slow we're like, this guy's on ropes.

It doesn't even look real. It looks like a guy goes, yes. He's like in the musical cats. Yeah. Falls at the speed of a feather. So these people are just losing hemorrhaging money. Yeah, that's been a thing. Yeah.

I mean, that's like, that's a huge. So they have a streaming platform. And anytime someone signs up for the streaming platform, They're like, I guess we won. Oh, wow. Right. Yeah. Looks like you guys.

Stupid enough to sign up, big time. Well, we won then. But yeah, should we play just that clip and also Jonathan Majors' speech where he talks about just the most white supremacist talking points? But it can't be white supremacists. It's Jonathan Majors. Right, right. What do you mean white supremacy? So we'll start off with the rooftop scene.

So many in your country cannot even be bothered to produce children, but this is a day that you will tell yours about. Because he's holding. holding onto her arm because they just witness their friends get murdered. And she's wearing a Kaffia. I like everyone in Bruce. I'm gay. Oh. No.

No. Yeah, they kicked him. Look how strict there. Okay. So, like, it's like a South Park thing. It's like, and I'm gay, boom. Off the roof. And you're like, yeah.

Oh, wow. Oh, cool. On to, like, soft bark. I know. Yeah, yeah, it's some compost. That's a compost pilot. That is the sort of fall that they, I'm assuming, like, in any other action movie, I'd be assuming, oh, that person doesn't actually die because he fell into sock. Yeah, no.

But yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that was just like they were trying to sell the fall, I guess. He didn't even break a bone. Like, he just has a sore back to her. Because also, like, Jonathan Majors' character at various points is, like, shot multiple times and appears to be bleeding out. and then like cut to he's not shot at all. Sure, man. One minute from the Guardian review,

one minute bleeding out and clinging to life. The next completely healed without hint of explanation. I love an English movie critic. I know. Without hint of explanation. It's, yeah, it's also like, I love.

I like, right after it said, it was hard not to be reminded of just how he wound up at professional rock bottom. Yeah. Got his ass. You fucker. Read him.

Yeah, I love the character's motivation. He's like, I would, this is the first time. I'm not talking about killing you. And they're like, well, you've misunderstood. I'm getting, like the. Right. Here, let me give you a reason to kill me. It's so, again, yeah, sure.

And I guess it's their clueless libs. I mean, this is their heavy-handed version of me, like, this is what some college campuses are going to get you. Right. Meanwhile, nobody's watching it, and he's further. taking daily wire into the financial abyss. Because like the viewers have, like, they're, they're tumbling. I don't know.

We'll see how much traction this gets. But right now, I've seen most of the movie in Twitter clips. Right. So, and that's all I need to see because people are putting the best parts up. Well, I'm glad Hollywood's making movies. Yeah, right? Surviving well. This was shot in South Carolina because you couldn't get away with it in Hollywood.

Yeah. You want to do what? There's also a part where a little white girl goes up to a black security garden is like, my father lost me. And he's like, well, I haven't met my father. Or I've been, I still am looking for my God. And people like,

huh, couldn't get away with saying that in Hollywood. You can't get away with saying that shit out loud. Right. What are you talking about? Was it AI written? Probably. Oh. It was like, had the touch.

They do say that it's hard to know. It's so bad. I mean, there's definitely some AI generating imagery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They say, uh, they hardly. great as much as Rankin's liberal use of AI for newscasts and other screen filler. So it is a partially AI generated film. Yeah. I thought you can make a movie like that. Oh, interesting. He got he got into filmmaking because of HBO's Project Greenlight. Yeah. Didn't know that.

How did they, did they call it Ben and Matt to see if they make this thing? I'm shocked. Yeah. I'm shocked that they weren't interested. Speaking of people from Hollywood, not being interested. Donald Trump, so we talked when this happened, that Donald Trump came out and was like, I've got three big celebrities who are working with me

to be my special ambassadors to Hollywood. My number one guy. John Voigt. Oh, yeah. That's been, yeah. Oh! He's,

that guy's the king of Hollywood. Oh, yeah. I'm disputed. He was an anaconda. Mel Gibson. There's nothing wrong with that. He's cool. Wait,

you know, You know like Australians? Yeah. He's Australian? Yeah. He's Australian, but not born in Australia or some of his dad was Australian. And then he was like raised, I don't know. I will.

I forget he's a person. Right. Like he's an actual alive person. Not like a creature. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like Bigfoot. He was born in Peekskill, New York.

Peak skill. Yeah. His dad is. Uh, and Celvesta Stallone. Yeah. Bobby. Got him on. Boppy.

Which was the, that one was the revel. Like, I knew that he had appeared with Trump, but I didn't know he was like, that much, like a part of, that he was like a part of Trump's plans, like working on a special committee. Whatever that even is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Turns out, you what, like, no, nobody had been informed about this ahead of time. No, but they all found out from the tweet from the rest of us. And he's like, I hear my decree, my special ambassadors to Hollywood. And John Voight has actually taken the gig seriously. Yeah. And is like trying to find like legislation to help incentive. Yeah, like somehow he's like, we need to incentivize like more like local production.

That's the funniest show. Yeah, yeah, that John Boyd, he's not like mainlining weird like 4chan memes that he's like, actually no, there's a way to finance this better. I'm not sure what Mel Gibson is doing. Mel Gibson did say that he was not aware of it until the tweet. Until the tweet. So this is what Sylvester Stallone had about. This was his experience finding out.

He said, quote, well, it just happened. I was watching TV one night. they go, so Stallone and Mel Gibson and John Voie will be, and I went, what? I said, excuse me. Really? And it says, though Stallone remains, quote, in awe of President Trump,

whom he likens to a, quote, mythical character. The Oscar winner concedes, he quote, If they asked me in the beginning, I would have said, this is not possible. That was it.

He goes, I got the tweet at the same time as all you. I was just surprised. That's what, that's what Mel Gibson said. So apparently Stallone was like he ultimately had to tell Trump no. Like he's like, oh, thanks, bro, but no, no fam to this one. He said, I think he said, I had to say no and chow. It's the way, but it, which probably feels like a way that Trump, like that is a way to get, like let Trump bob.

He's like, yeah, I'm sorry about that. You know, hey, good look to you. Chow. Yeah. And he's like, wow, he said chow to me. He said, chow to me. He's very European, very sophisticated. He only says that to his friends.

I'm him. I am he. Uh, yeah. Like, where's Mel Gibson? He said, nevertheless, I heed the call. My duty as a citizen is to give any help and insight I can. Any chance the position comes with an ambassador's. Any chance the position comes with an ambassador's residence?

No. This is like this episode is pure psychopaths. Every single person we fucking talk to that. Yeah, it's wild. But he's still, he's friends with Trump. He's a Republican. He's like, he was at the White House, those pictures we saw. I mean, yeah, look at he's.

looks great. Guy looks good. Guys, what world, again, we're in a bad drug trip? Like, those three people are people. These are human beings that somehow they get to, they're enjoying all the fruits of success. They are. These are the people. Them?

Our best. They have soldiers. Everyone's face is permanently fixed in like one position. Oh, Sylvester. Is he holding a vape? What's he holding right here? I think that would be a giant pen. It's a giant pen.

It's a marker. It's a marker. Yeah. Wow, guys. Wow. Look at his, look at that. I mean, the HGH and stuff. I mean, he kind of really does a number on your head.

Like, look how much narrower his head is when he was younger before the HGH. But he was actually terrifying back then, too. Yeah. He's a weird unholy color of, yeah. I just watched Rocky for the first time because someone said, like, it's my favorite movie. You have to watch it. I got through seven minutes and I was like, I'm sorry. Seven minutes.

I'm trying to. What's in the first seven minutes of Rocky? He's like walking around New Jersey or whatever. Philadelphia. Yeah. Yeah. So, sorry. Sorry.

He's Philadelphia. The one I got rights. Hey, they're right. It's funny that BB Netanyahu and Sylvester Stallone have the same voice. I have the same impression of them and they're both from Philly. Yeah. He's like, hey, you know, what are we going to do?

You know, Mayor Mamm Dhani is, he's lying about me. Well, Philly's really having a good moment, huh? Philly's having a great moment, you know what I mean? We've got the Rachel Dolos off Yeah, BB's from fucking Philly and Palestinian

Rachel Dolanjol Wow They need to meet I know Yeah Look at us They probably know each other Low key though probably

And now LeBron's there And now Bronn The three horsemen Rachel Palisinae Rachel Rachel Dolajon Bibi Miliyahoo And frigar bra James Tam

such a pleasure having you as always I love you guys Thank you We're excited for you By the way I was like You're gonna give birth

on this episode. No, I didn't. Not yet. But I did forget I was pregnant, which is a nice little relief. See, this is why I came. Look, that's where we're doing for. You honor us. Where can people find you?

You can find me on Instagram. I am Tamara Yahia. And you can find my book out on paperback called Cry for Me Argentina. Beautiful looking book. Yeah. It's a really funny and sad book about my life. My pathetic life. Stories from my messed up life.

Everyone's, I think that's at most people. have that balance of fucked up and cool. I was reading a review of it today, and it was like some lady that's like, you know, she has a really interesting life, but I don't know why she sucked on her grandma's elbow when she died. And I was like, I don't know why I did either. But I did. Yeah, I just had to.

My grandma died. I sucked her elbow. When else do you get to suck on a cadaver's elbow? I used to pull on my grandma's elbow. Thank you. Did you do that? Yes. It is one of the most fascinating parts.

It is like when you're a kid. Elbows. Old people's skin was like my first fidget spinner. Exactly. Did you know that the elbow skin is called a weanus? Oh yeah. I feel like it is like a thing. Yes, it's called a weanus. Yeah. You took me back to sixth grade right there. We're like, six to the weenness. I'm like, no, it is it? That's like information I need to keep classified from my eight-year-old. If he finds out about that, it's fucking over. Over. Yeah, but shout out to the grandmother's Elbows. I know exactly.

The three school teachers of the world are like keeping that shit like on log, like the knock list from Mission of Oz. They can't know this. Don't know Chode. Yeah. Don't let them. Isn't a whale's penis called a dork? It is. Yeah, yeah.

But I think that's why we started calling people. Yeah, yeah. Because I remember saying that and my dad was like, like he was like, it means a whale's penis. And I'm like, fuck. It's the best. I still, it's still the funny issue to me. Dork. It was like, who can?

Yes, I am a whale's penis. Actually, they're big. Thank you. and they fuck they're odd they're off putting to humans they're strange looking is there a work of media that you've been enjoying yeah i just read this book that i fucking loved it's called open throat and it's from the perspective of p22 the light mountain lane yeah except he's gay okay and he lives in the hollywood hills and just like listens to people talk about trauma while they hike it's amazing wow i can't remember the author's name i think it's like eugene perkins or

something, but open throat, you'll read it in one second, but read mine first. Yeah, that's a huge dog. Look at those guys with the dork right there. I don't know why I thought it, I imagined it like this. No, full, look at this shit. Oh, yeah, that's a dragon tongue. Oh, that's so gross. Yeah.

Kind of like a dog's dick, but way bigger. Yeah, exactly. Dog's dicks are upsetting. Red Rocket. Henry Hoke is the author of Open Throat. Why did I say Eugene Perkins? That's okay. Who knows?

It's a pregnancy brain. That's right. Kendrick Perkins Ascob player Miles where can people find you Is there a work of media You've been enjoying me Yeah find me everywhere

at Miles of Grey I'm talking about 90 day fiance On 420 day fiance I'm talking about football Football football football Fuchibol Calcio The beautiful game Whatever every

Translated in as many languages you want On ANet Footie With Jamel Johnson And Chris Martin A Work of Media I like Oh yeah Okay It's this bit of stand-up

from one of our friends, Megan Galey, who said, she's like, I'm only nice. I just wanted to play this like first bit because it's just funny. Only nice to my husband when I'm high. When I'm high, I like, I become so sweet. Like, I was high and I texted him, you're my rock. But she goes on.

It's just really funny. Also follow at better Megan Galey. She's hilarious. She's great. I just saw her and her husband having dinner at an Italian place. That's CJ? Really? Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Were they? Was she hot? Was she high? Were they happy? Probably. Yeah, no.

If they looked happy. Which place? Columbo's. Oh. You know Columbo's? In Eagle Rock, right? Yeah. They used to play music, but now they don't play music, but it's still great.

Christopher Columbus? Yeah. It's like, it looks like you could see someone get murdered in there. Yeah. But like in a very fun way. Like the food sucks. Yeah. But like it doesn't matter.

It's the vibe. The drinks are cheap. Yeah. It has, it very much has this time capsule feel to it that most places are so modern now. It's like, you're like, yeah, thank God. And they give you a martini with a little extra. I miss drinking.

You and me both sister. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky, Jack O, B, the number one. Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore Brian. I like to tweet from at Chased by Wasps on Twitter who said, we're trying for a baby. Oh, yeah, what kind of stuff you try in? You can find Find us on Twitter

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