The Daily Zeitgeist - Papal Trendclave 4/23: 'Conclave'/PopeMania, Polymarket, '60 Minutes', Trumpfake/Trade War, Toys'R'Us

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

In this edition of Papal Trendclave, Jack and Miles discuss the Popemania sweeping the streaming world, the Papal betting markets, '60 Minutes' causing issues for the Skydance/Paramount merger, the latest Trumpfake in the White House's trade war, the upcoming Toys'R'Us movie and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That one courtesy of Vanadium Silver. My name is Jack, that over there is miles The show's gone Pope crazy like the rest of America. You know what I'm saying crazy. I'm crazy Crazy for a newly dead Pope. Hell. Yeah, don't they do they beat the shit out of his head with the hammer what? Isn't that the thing you got to do? Pope hammer dead y That's a piñata. No, no. Oh, it's a myth. The myth that a Pope's death is confirmed by tapping his forehead with a silver hammer and calling out his baptismal name three times is not true.

Ah. That's fun though. That would be fun. That was the thing where it's like, you gotta fucking bash him. Be like, wake up! They're like, not yet. He dead. That's a fun little thing. Can we, can we that for me every morning to ensure that I'm dead? Yeah. Or I guess not. They're a gun. They're a gun. Lower stakes. Let's just do a theragun to the temple.

They're going to the dome, although I might be asking for John. John, John. All right. So we can say that Pope Mania has taken over the streaming world following the death of Pope Francis Everybody decided to pay their respects by streaming Pope Pope tent Pope popy content pop Conclave obviously just a just a meatball served up for this very purpose movie That's premise just a meatball served up for this very purpose, a movie that's premise, entire premises,

hey, what if Pope died? You know what's wild? The fact that the viewing has upticked again on like streaming and rental, it's like it mirrors what the movie industry used to be, which was you had your box office, like round of profit, then the video, like back when there was physical tapes that were sold,

then you got that next little taste of money. Next bump. So many people talk about how that next bump of like the physical media revenue is gone. And like in this one, like Conclave, it's like, shit bro, okay. It's like 283% on Monday. And I'm gonna say that 283% of people,

they're walking away satisfied. That's a fun time at the movies, despite the fact that it's about choosing a pope. You would not expect it. The other one that is doing well right now is The Two Popes, a Netflix drama that is up 417%. I mean, that one, I guess it's on Netflix, so it's free. But yeah, Conclave is the number one rental on iTunes

ahead of Captain America, Brave New World, and the Jason Statham movie, A Working Man. Stay them, bro, stay them With Statham, bro, Statham stays working, bro. The way he's released five movies since this podcast started recording. Yeah. And they're all there. Actually, it's a whole cinematic. They're all hits. Yeah. Wasn't the Borgias that that show that had Jeremy Irons, it was not Pope sent like adjacent that show.

I felt like he was always dressed in some religious shit. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Not familiar. I mean- Yes, thank you, Victor. Producer Victor came through with the confirmation. Where my sister act heads at, you know? Get that in there. Sister act two,

back in the habit? I mean, it's the Catholic Church. Might as well. God, I miss- Might as well. Bring that, also bring that premise back where like an unwitting person witnesses a murder and has to go on the run as and disguise themselves as the pope. I feel like that would have been the third sequel would have been sister act becomes the pope.

Right. There's nuns on the run. Remember nuns on the run. Do you remember the Pope must die yet? There is a movie called The Pope Must Die that they had to like add a T to so that it wouldn't offend the pope. But that's so loud because Rob Robbie Coltrane was also in Nuns on the Run. He was like, I know a good thing when I got it. He's like, look, I got a Catholic audience boost. You know what I mean? I just got to stay in my wheelhouse.

The Pope must die is premises. A low ranking priest is mistakenly elected Pope. So they did, they did King Ralph, the Pope, as, as I had requested, they apparently did it back in the 90s, in the early 90s, late 80s. But then for some reason, he has to avoid being assassinated by the mafia repeatedly. Wow. What is this? Is the same. You know what? Can I read you the premise of Nuns on the Run from 1990?

Yeah, please. Set up by their boss to be knocked off finally, following a final heist. Soon to retire crooks Brian and Charles get wind of their impending demise and run off with the spoils of their crime, fleeing their boss, the drug dealers they robbed, the police and Brian's angry girlfriend, and his angry girlfriend, just like the murders. I don't know which one's worse, you know what I'm saying? The two take refuge in a training convent for nuns in disguise. They convince sister superior that they're nuns, a charade they are forced to maintain as their enemies. Wow. Convincing nuns, convincing, convincing.

Interesting. And then, I mean, we do, we do have to check in with now the gambling is legal in America. We got to check in. What are the markets saying is going to happen? So there's, there's a lot of movement on the markets. We got heavy favorites. We've got some people that are in the whisper market is saying I might be a heavy favorite right now. According to Polymarket, that is the most fucked up place

that takes money on shit like this. There's apparently, they said like $3 million in total volume that people are betting on the next pope The heavy favorite is Pietro Parolin from Italy followed by Luis Antonio Tagle Nah guys, no, it's Luis. It's Cardinal Luis from the Philippines in number two. That's right I've I've also read a headlines about how this guy from the Philippines and another Cardinal from Ghana Peter Turkson. Peter Turkson sounds like a mid-level sales rep from Milwaukee. For sure.

Peter Turkson? Hey, Peter Turkson here, calling from Turkson HVAC. I was wondering if your business had considered swapping out your HVAC system. Just give me a call back. You hear that thinking about Turkson to be the Pope? Fucking Turkson? I mean, I knew that guy was an altar boy,

but he's no Pope. But like people are saying that this Ghanaian or Filipino are being considered, not to say that they're heavy favorites, but because the Asia and Africa are the only two places where Catholicism is like growing, where it's like, yeah, Europe's cooked, man. Boom times for Catholicism. Maybe for the brand, you know, they do,

this one's for the brand, I don't they do a, this one's for the brand? I don't know. But there is the prophecy of the Pope's book that was allegedly written a thousand years ago that says, the last Pope will be named Peter the Roman and quote, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations. And when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The end.

Seven hills in the valley? No, this is a, I think they people. The end. Seven Hills in the Valley. No, this is a I think they're talking about Rome. Yeah. OK, I got it. The Valley is like cockroach of Earth. Like we're not going anywhere. I did. Peter the Roman, he will be known as. They really called their shot. That's what I like.

The world ending prophecies that are just like too specific. They're like, oh, here's the hack. Just don't name him Peter the Roman. And you've you've staved off the apocalypse. You fended it off. He'll be named Peter the Roman and he'll have one dog and two kitties who live with him. Yeah, right. Exactly. They will have the kitties will be called Romulus and Remus,

which is a fun, you know, fun take on the wolves. Anyway, it's like, dude, you're just writing. You're just a failed writer. It's like a bad CBS comedy sitcom that you're like, Hey, Miles, speaking of CBS and bad, Yeah, good, good image. I do just wanna talk about this 60 minutes story. The EP of 60 minutes, the executive producer is like the

head, the head on the editorial front of the news magazine 60 Minutes. Been around for as long as either of us have been alive. It's an ancient news bastion. And it came under fire for saying mean things about Trump, hurt Trump feelings. And now the corporation that owns them, which is Paramount at this point, is trying to merge with Skydance, another media company. And because of the lingering lawsuit that the Trump administration has lodged against 60 Minutes, that's causing issues for them in terms of this merger.

And so now the corporate overlords at Paramount are asking for 60 Minutes to show them any story that they have coming up about Trump and just all sorts of journalististically problematic things to the point that the executive producer of 60 Minutes just resigned. Yeah, and even the anchors on the CBS Nightly News, I mean, they signed off talking about it and they definitely get a little bit choked up

just being like, dude, this guy's been here forever. And not great. Don't, again, do not obey preemptively. Yeah. But I mean, this is all, you know, this is it's like the Trump administration finds the fissures in capitalism and just exploits them, which is basically like what you do as a capitalist. You like try and find the loopholes and things like that. And then you exploit them.

Money's your god. To your own profit. You wanna merge, you wanna sell CBS and make a ton of money. I can fucking fuck all that up. So what you wanna do? I got leverage over you then. Yeah, yeah. But it's like this administration is like a stress test

for late stage capitalism and late stage capitalism is just having massive heart attacks over and over. Like Mickey's one through 16. It's just dying over and over. And yeah, so I don't know. It doesn't look great, but CBS is like, what? We're not we're not killing any stories. We're simply asking them to share them with us so that we could give our notes and how they change it while making a throat slashing gesture. Or that one that Viggo Mortenson does in Eastern Promises where he goes, Mm hmm. The peace sign points to both sides of his windpipe. It's just wild that like, this is an ancient like,

institution that has like a lot of credibility. And like, they don't give a, like, this is just the thing. Like corporate media is not gonna save us, right? Like this could happen to anyone at any time if, like they'll always have some excuse or some reason to be like, well, we're facing economic headwinds. So we had to like worry about what the Trump administration thought of us. And so we had to say, fuck 60 minutes.

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And we're back. And the will they won't they when it comes to whether the Trump administration is going to actually crater the economy with tariffs is it's fun. It leaves us all on the edge of our seats. And I think people are loving it. Miles, what's the latest plot twist? Oh, the latest plot twist is Trump is fucking Trump and he's pump faking all the time. Like he's I'm going to do this. I'm not. It's temporary. It's the time. Like he's I'm going to do this. I'm not.

And it's temporary. It's a pause. Actually, 245 percent. I hate China. I love China. I hate Jerome Powell. Matter of fact, I love Jerome Powell. So apparently, like on Tuesday, this guy just really switched his tone up like like some complete reversal. Like he was like, yeah, we're going to fucking go hard on China. We're fucking we're not going to let up all this other shit. First up, he basically said, like with Jerome Powell, he said,

oh, I actually never had any intentions on firing Jerome Powell. Like, because anyway, first of all, it would have been illegal. And a lot of people are saying if he's talking about it this much, he's gearing up to fire that Fed chair. And that's going to be even worse. So I think he did that again because he's all the it this much, he's gearing up to fire that Fed chair and that's going to be even worse. So I think he did that again because all the money lines were going down and people started screaming at him and he's like, okay, okay, okay, fuck, fuck, fuck. I was never going to do it.

I was never going to do it. Then in regards to tariffs, he basically was like, oh yeah, tariffs on goods from China will quote come down substantially. And then he said, quote, we're going to be very nice, and they're going to be very nice. And we'll see what happens. So this man art of the dealed himself. He's I mean, thank, I guess in a weird way, thank God that he is so consistent with his lack of backbone when it comes to a confrontation, but also fuck because he absolutely has irreversibly done damage to the economy in ways that we're still gonna We're still feeling we're still we're starting to see more layoffs. We're seeing like I

Read this article. We'll have to talk about it of like one of these consultants who deal with dynamic pricing And how they they are fucking raking in the dough right now because they're going to companies and be like dude with all this uncertainty People are already psychologically preparing to pay more. So you can't. So buddy, yeah, it's boom time. It's that out in the open. Um, and then yeah, with the, the tariff stuff, you know, he kept saying, Oh, China's going to make a deal.

They're going to call me. They didn't, they didn't say anything. And now he's just straight up being like, all right, it's going to come down and they're going to be good. And there was really no smoke really ever. So now he can pretend like this wasn't a huge L but the damage is done. A lot of people said that the heads of Walmart,

Home Depot and I think maybe Target were telling him, it's like, dude, we're gonna have these tariffs, you're gonna start seeing empty shelves. And that's, I don't know if you know, I don't know if you've seen an American person when they see empty shelves, they think they're dying. And that's probably some, those are maybe optics you don't want.

So we'll see, I mean, he's probably bound to come back after reading headlines. He's like, no, actually I am, I am tough. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. He can't because then he'll see headlines from people being like that, he waffled, he caved, and he has to come back and talk tough. But he's not like, apparently behind the scenes

like he doesn't like to fire people to their face. Like he's like scared of people, he's like scared of conflict. So yeah, I don't know if he's built for it. I think he can only do these wildly unpopular things for as long as his firewall of sycophants holds. And they're doing their job because Caroline Leavitt is out here saying, oh my God, we're really working

a great trade deal out with China right now. And you're like, are you? I mean, every report you've heard, working a great trade deal out with China right now. Yeah. You're like, are you? I mean, every report you've heard, there was a delegation of people from the Japanese government that came to DC to be like, okay, so like, what do you want for like, you know, the tariffs to come? Like what's your like demand here? And the fucking Americans that they met with couldn't articulate anything.

They were like, what? Well, wait, you know, we didn't think it would get this far. That's it. I mean, so that's a good question. You give us like a couple of months to get back to you on that. They're like, what do you mean? We're going to put some slides together. Yeah, like that's that's who they're dealing with. And then meanwhile, you see all these quotes like, oh, yes,

75 countries came to us to beg. No, they did not you know, it's so Whatever. He did his thing. He's pump faking. We'll see how much more people's livelihoods are fucked with because of his Mercurial nature. All right, and finally big news It was just announced. We're getting a movie based on Toys R Us. Oh, the fucking store. Hell, yeah. The store is we're.

So this is a collaboration between Toys R Us Studios, of course. Toys R Us, what? Toys R Us Studios. You can't say that. You're not studios. Well, don't you remember they made that one AI ad? It was like this is the origin of Toys R Us. It was so bad, like the toys weren't even they weren't even fucking toys you could recognize. No, they were just yeah.

It was like some like a ball and a hobby horse. But then like just a bunch of like shapes and colors and shit. Anyways, that's their previous work. And then the company behind the Sonic the Hedgehog movie. So I feel like a lot of, in lieu of like being able to make movies anymore, like a lot of people are just like making deals that with people who will like pay them a lot of money.

And so in this case, they're like, yeah, toys are us. They'll throw away a shitload of money apparently. Not to like build a toy store, but to make something that's being described as a movie in the vein of night at the museum, back to the future and big. So I guess the toys will come to life and there will be some kind of supernatural sex

crime. Yeah. Like where you try to hook up with your mom tries to hook up with you, but you're the hotter older version of yourself. Right, right. You're no longer Josh Baskin. And then it said plus other successful toy inspired narratives like Jumanji and Barbie. They're just being like, yeah, any, anything. Well, sure. Let's go with that.

Have you watched the studio? Have you watched the studio yet? I haven't watched the studio yet. This is like literally what's happening in the studio and in the certain episodes where Seth Rogan has to make the, make Kool-Aid. Right. That's the premise of like, he is the head of a studio and they're demanding that he makes the Kool-Aid movie. Right. And then Bryan Cranston is like the corporate overlord of the studio who has not a creative bone in his body and is like hell-bent on this Kool-Aid thing. And the way this Toys R Us movie is described feels like the way he would say to the Bryan Cranston character and he would be like,

This is genius, dude. You're saying it's Night at the museum back to the future big with Jumanji and Barbie. Yeah fuck Yeah, at least the Kool-Aid man has like a it's a character, you know, Jeffrey the giraffe is a Mascot yeah for toys or us like he has no characteristics. He's just like kind of vacant I guess he's cut if I had to compare him to anything, I guess it would be Barney, right? Like he has like Barney vibes, just like sort of lobotomized friendly.

Yeah, he's barely sentient. Yeah, yeah, Barney definitely has more Riz, Brian, the editor pointed out. Kool-Aid Man definitely like, so the thing that is being set like that, they're using a satire to be like, could you imagine if they tried to make this into a movie is actually has sturdier legs than this project that was just announced because the Kool-Aid man at least has like a person out where he's just like, oh, yeah, yeah. He's happy and breaking through walls like that fucking rules.

Yeah, yeah. He's happy and breaking through walls like that fucking rules. Yeah, yeah. Until his daughter, who can't break through walls, is the only character that can save him to prove that she's strong enough to break through a wall. It's. So part of me is like, I don't know, like the idea of a toy store like it should exist. Toy stores should exist in America. They don't currently, other than like in, you know, small private toy stores here and there.

And they're also apparently working on a reality competition for families set in larger than life toy stores where like they have to like compete and do very I don't know. It's God. I could see that one like if there's like a reality competition, like a Mr. B style reality competition set in like a massive like FAO shorts from big style toy stores, like in super market, introducing people to the concept of toy stores in a way that is like easy to watch.

I could see that actually accomplishing what they're looking for, but like a movie where you like get trapped overnight in a toy store that comes to life and also go back in time. Um, I don't know. Also toys are us is kind of like a, a shitty company. Like they, they were the original Walmart in the toy industry like they Put a bunch of like mom pop toy stores out of business Using sheer scale and then also made it impossible for like Mattel and like toy companies They were just like well now we own you like if we don't buy your toys, you're fucked

We are the state of Texas buying school books. Yeah, they just basically got a monopoly on. They call it the first quote category killer, a company that so completely dominates its Realtel category that it drives all of its competition to ruins. It's also like the name, like the name is like Toys R Us is just like the first thought that you would come up with for What are what do you guys do? We're Toys R Us Uh-huh. Okay. Is it like did was there some pitch where they're they were like and people always go in and go You guys are you guys toys? No, toys are us toys are in many ways

Like I'm even trying to understand like what, in what world that way of having it, is that based on something? Is there something are us? Yeah, I don't know. It just seems like it's like a it would be the distributor that like ships toys to the actual toy stores, because it's just so like, I don't know, rote.

Toys R Us, you come here, you get toys. Wow. You know what the original name of Toys R Us was? What's that? It's not great. Children's Bargain Town. Pretty good. Mom, take me to children's bargain town. We've got a lively chat happening in the group chat pitching the magic bullet blender movie. Maybe the ninja magic bullet.

Uh, super producer Bay is pitching. Oh, cause that was a product. Yeah. Yeah. Or the ninja barista deluxe movie. Ninja V magic bullet where like the where like it's the magic bullet from the JFK assassination. I always bring it back, baby.

And that's why that what they is that what they named it after? Because I don't know what is a magic bullet otherwise. I feel like they were coasting off the popularity. I guess what silver bullet we use colloquially. Right. And that's like as a efficient solve solution to a thing. But yeah. I wonder if we have.

This blender will remind you of the magic bullet that entered and exited Kennedy three times with its efficiency. What can't it do? Much like that Magic Bullet. Yeah, I don't think there, yeah, because there was the NutriBullet before. This is also, the history of this shit

is too much for me to keep up with, whatever. I hope you were just a big JFK fan. Yeah, all right, those are some of the things. That'd be amazing if we found out the Magic Bullet Blender was actually released with Oliver Stone's JFK movie as like a tie in promotional tie in like when people used to do like she would Taco Bell when I'm like the demolition man Taco Bell deal and Godzilla Taco Bell deals, bro. If you got the Z Spun Godzilla, you want a million dollars.

That's right. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines while you still can. Get your flu shots.

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