The Daily Zeitgeist - Pat Zeitly 6/6: NBA Finals, Elvis, American Fascism, 44%, WWDC

Episode Date: June 6, 2022

In this edition of Pat Zeitly, Jack and Miles discuss the NBA Finals (and other stuff Jack noticed on TV over the weekend), how American Fascism is coming along , 44% of Republicans believing mass shootings are an "unfortunate part of a free society", and WWDC 2022!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.

That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the

making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Pat Zeitly. Pat Riley is the wordplay there.

I am Jack. That is Miles. Yep. That was courtesy of Miles. He's in the news. He was talking about how he said, I'm 77 years old, and right now I can do more push-ups than you can right now. And he got down and did four push-ups. If I'm going to on like a former editor of mine's hat and look at the writing i'm gonna say the double right nows are a little wonky a

little too much to spell out when you're when you're talking it but that's okay pat we'll work on that you work on building championship team right now my mind sharp as a tack right now right now right now right now let me tell you right you're asking about now uh pat we they left the room a half hour ago man who is that that's a i don't know there's a paper towel that blew in from outside through an open door all right he was definitely looking i don't know i wasn't feeling as much as some people i was on a text chain with during the keith celdic series i didn't think he looked necessarily quite like he was like cryptkeeper levels of elderly i think he's a pretty um who did i say but i said something real specific though

yeah i mean who was it i felt like that The old guy from Poltergeist? No, I said he looked like Norman Bates' mother in Psycho. Yeah. Because it was. His eyes go sunken back. His hair looks like the hair that grows after the body dies. Right, right,

right, right. But no disrespect, you know, past, no disrespect, you know, I just,

but I have to be like all people. I love my love language is a roast. So sometimes I got gotta hit you with that anyway all that to say the nba finals huh they're on their way i would just i would just go back to the slick he still has a great head of hair just go back to the slick you know i think that's what we're reacting to more than anything is that now he has the soft dry hair like blown back and he goes and he goes this ain't slick but this is pushed back that was a real piece of shit we need pat riley in a tim robertson sketch about slick back for

his pushback hair one of the greats um i i do wonder if he can do more push-ups than me he can do more push-ups than me if If he's bragging about push-ups, you have to assume... I gotta see what he's up to. Especially bragging about push-ups in a field where if you brag about push-ups, somebody is liable to call you on that and be like, alright, let me see it. Because we work in a gym, sir.

Unless you're Tyler Harrow trying to get a starting spot. As you know, I've been... I've made my way through the podcast industry uh bragging about how many push-ups i can do for decades and take care to crack.com yeah you challenged the former rights holder to a push-up contest that's right and uh he just wilted under the pressure um anyways uh pat riley if you don't know great legendary nba coach legendary nba executive good guy was at my grandfather's funeral damn well he didn't come my grandfather's funeral

that's my wife beef yeah but adrian brody came so it's all good wow both riley and spolstra were there shout out the Miami Heat. Another reason I wish they were in the finals. But they are not. And that is our first story. The NBA finals have begun. The Celtics, who beat the Miami Heat, are... Beat the Warriors in game one. Wowie.

I mean... All right. So I forget what I said on our NBA podcast. But heading in. We said we felt the possibility of the Celtics winning this thing. Right. We held space for that. Day of game, I was saying Celtics in six. So I was not surprised that they won one in Golden State,

like in California, but they, like that third quarter, or fourth quarter was pretty convincing. Again, when the Celtics are playing well, I'm immediately like, oh, they should never, that's it. Celtics in four. Like, that's a wrap.

Oh, it just like triggers a panic response and you're just like, yeah! I just think they like when they're playing well are better than anybody I think if they win this it'll count for two chips and it'll be 19 after I don't know maybe that's what happens I don't know yeah but anyways the Warriors came back um took care of business we're just like making threes from half court basically your worst worst case scenario if you're a Celtics fan heading into this

series is, oh yeah, they're really good at shooting. It's getting real splashy. I'm sticking to my Celtics in six, though. I do think they're the better team based on what I've seen to date. But another thing, did you watch game one?

I was out of town, so I caught like so I watched the 15-minute grandpa version. So there's a moment. So the way the game played out, the Warriors are up 10 pretty comfortably for the whole third quarter. Heading into the fourth, everyone thinks it's kind you know it's it's kind of overish like i think the espn like game predictor had it like 90 95 warriors went and then like a minute later the celdics were up and then a minute after that they were up 10 and it was over in the other direction um and the play-by-play person uh last minute came in to sub for Mike Breen, named Mark Jones, said the phrase. And I was like, wait, did that just happen?

I was texting my friends, trying to find out if that happened. Jabari was like, I missed that. I don't think he said that. But what I heard was, the Celtics have stormed ahead. This insurrection has them leading by 11. Um, yeah, which I,

I don't know like that. I guess it just felt strong to me. Let's just hear it. Okay. Stormed ahead. This insurrection has them leading by 11. This is the thing, man.

It, some people really just should stay in their lane. Right. You know, like, I think you're trying to draw too much from, like, the zeitgeist into your play calling. Right. But there is something with, like, this insurrection. Yeah, because it's not even like this. I mean, this is an insurrection this yeah because it's not even like this uh i mean this is a insurrection i don't know the word you know he was it was like it was uh like on tap he had the that one on tap oh yeah

i think he was he knew that i don't know i have no idea he it's a word in the zeitgeist you know he's just free associating and this is maybe a reason why some people shouldn't free associate an insurrection in the sense that you know you'd think that the golden state warriors are more of like the dynastic team at the moment so it's like an upending of the balance of power by insurrection is uh and that's a group of proud boys down there really celebrating that win that would have been the only way for him to correct it after he after it came out as if he like did that and i was like i don't know what happened man i'm sorry you know what to say about these boston sorry. You know what it's saying about these Boston Celtics.

Oaths made, oaths kept. That seems specific. All right, Trump won the election, y'all. Wait. All right. Another thing that I didn't know if my eyes were functioning during the NBA playoffs, there was a commercial for this new Elvis movie,

which I have been vaguely interested in just because it's the first Baz Luhrmann movie that is explicitly about an artist. And it's also an artist whose career, I feel like, has a huge pop cultural impact and i am not that familiar with it you know like i'm just like okay so this could be like a cliff's notes um fun amusement park ride version of like the rise of elvis um and they throw to this ad and i can't i still can't find it because it was like the 30 second cut of a longer trailer where Elvis gets up on stage at the Louisiana Hayride.

This is where Colonel Tom Parker, played by Tom Hanks, finds him, discovers him. Dude, he looked like a weird Harry Potter side character in all that makeup. Tom Hanks is deep inside of a fat suit in the commercial. He looked like if Tom Hanks was like Uncle Vernon from Harry Potter. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of the energy.

That actor who plays him, that's what I was getting from that performance. So Elvis gets up there, and the microphone squeaks from his nervousness like there's microphone feedback because he's nervous as we talked about that is that that is the thing that happens in movies uh the microphone senses your nervousness and it stops functioning um and then somebody's like get a haircut buttercup um even though his hair is like not that long and then like in the tray in the full-length trailer he starts playing a song and starts gyrating a little bit and like one by one women around the thing are

like noticing that he's like waggling his hips back and forth and like that's like starts turning them on they start going crazy but in the 30 second cut down trailer it just immediately like goes into like these hard smash ins on Elvis's junk and like every single woman in the audience starts like screaming and losing their head it's very it plays like scanners

more than it does like it's like he has a magic dick that is that is making women's head explode and the way Tom hanks is like and that's when i knew right and but that also like adds some uh like cutaways to the full-length trailer and you're like okay i see like narratively that this is a discovery narrative where this guy

but in the in the full-length trailer you just get elvis gets a microphone feedback get a haircut buttercup smash cut into his dick and people being like oh no i mean in all fairness even the extended one kind of reads the same way because it's the reactions i thought i was watching like a music video directed by the daniels yeah like it has that like yeah it felt very like absurd but like to to make a point now i am more excited to watch this movie than i was before by the way i just think it's going to be one of the strangest things ever committed to film i feel like the reviews are kind of all over the place which is a good sign i think in a movie like this where you're not you're not hoping for like well this is a class a cinematic classic yeah here yeah i think this is gonna be one roller coaster elvis is an anarchic pulsating exhilarating dive into history and music then

there's one that says spine tingling ellipsis pinata in quotes new elvis flick hits and misses deliriously awful biopic or biopic depending on how you get down listener said something about is bohemian rhapsody at 4 000 miles an hour wow hell yeah kind of what it feels like honestly deliriously awful that's just as good as saying it's buy me a ticket now fuck so bad it's good. Buy me a ticket now. Fuck. So bad it's good. You know, like, and tell me why I paid to fucking see Great Gatsby in the theater.

Granted, it was a date back then, but I went, I paid to see that shit, so. Yeah. A lot of people do. All right,

let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about some things that aren't stuff I noticed while watching TV this weekend. It's like that Leonardo DiCaprio from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood meme. All right. We'll be right back.

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Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back! And a lot of Proud Boy shit, a lot of fascist stuff happening. We got Where Are They Now from Milo Yiannopoulos. How's he doing? The cancelled Nazi is now

drumroll please, an unpaid intern for Marjorie tainted green so two peas in a pod if i'm putting that as nicely as possible uh because people have been spotting him at some of her events and now like it was confirmed that he is now part of the unpaid labor force so i i don't. Part of me is like, wow, you're letting... She's exploiting your ass and you're an unpaid intern,

but also in a way you're like, I guess this is good for my career rather than talking about I've been canceled into oblivion. I can't even pay for my weird expenses and shit. And by spotting him, you mean he's been like, hey, can I get 50 bucks? And they're like, here's a 10, man.

Just get out of here. I guess it's better than nothing. Yeah, it is, Milo. Proud Boys are a trend in because they are in the Justice Department's crosshairs. What do we got?

Head of Proud Boys, Enriquerique terrio and four other like leaders they've been charged with seditious conspiracy so a lot of people like oh the volume's going up the heat is going up and it's working it's a way up to the upper echelons of what's happening because the way they're saying is like, yo, these people helped coordinate, direct people, all this other stuff into the Capitol. So, I mean, along with like that Peter Navarro news, which we'll talk about in tomorrow's episode. I don't know. Like, maybe, maybe, maybe something will happen. But again, I think the thing that most people are thinking of like, yeah, but what about Donald Trump?

Right. What about that part? That's kind of the, that most people are thinking of like, yeah, but what about Donald Trump? Right. What about that part? That's the big one. Have you guys heard about this guy, Donald Trump? Yeah, unless they make him out to be the George W. Bush Iraq War stooge argument. He didn't know all these other people wanted to do it.

He was only the president. Yeah, we talk tomorrow. There's a primetime television event on Thursday night. This Thursday. This Thursday. The House Select Committee. With appearances from Razor Ramon. Brett Michaels of Poison.

You're like, wait, what? brett michaels of poison you're like wait what what 44 is trending because um that is the percentage of republicans who had a an interesting opinion on mass shootings and gun control i mean intro oh my goodness let me just play this uh quick little soundbite for you because it's really it it goes to show you like what the split is in this country uh in a really really eerie way the good news is people think this is preventable you get big majorities that say it can be stopped it can be prevented talking about mass shooting something that we have to accept now there is a quarter who says that unfortunately this may be something that we have to accept in a free society. And I do want to point out some partisan difference here.

There is bipartisan view that it can be prevented. But there are four in 10 Republicans who do say that it may be something we have to accept. And that partisan difference is going to cut through a lot of this, Mark. So 44 percent of Republicans say mass shootings are just something we're going to unfortunately have to accept as part of a free society. Yeah. I mean, that's not surprising. They have been like that. Their policy kind of agenda has seemed to indicate this that like well the only real solution is um drones with tasers on

them patrolling our schools or you know armed teachers uh so that does seem to be like the amount that it's like that does seem like something that at least a sizable portion of the republicans are working with it's still way too many i mean what's really interesting is how close like people who identify as independents are to how democrats are sort of voting too like they're usually sometimes it looked like they were true like this like group of like nebulous people like i don't know if it's mass child death bad right uh but now like 73 percent independence like yeah like we can prevent it if quote we really tried as the question was posed i think the darkest thing about these statistics are that i was surprised that the number was that low like the number of republicans who thought that

right yeah well because i mean that means 44 percent are completely to the point like 56 percent believe it can be prevented if we really tried and then 44 i think really shows you like like really i think is it that 44 is probably the same 44 that wants to do nothing about anything bring trump back you know jail for everybody except us and move on like that because for you to say yeah i think we're gonna have to accept that means you're so like nra brained that you can't even begin to look in the direction of preventing it because you know that means gun control so you're like no no no no just gonna have to deal with that gonna have to deal with that all right and finally worldwide developer conference 22 is trending uh we found out some

more shit about ios 16 yeah i feel like the i've learned stuff at the at this point of the news cycle where all of a sudden i see wwdc uh trending and i'm like is that a wrestling event is it a war like memorial the war like anniversary um and then third guess i i figure out why the war anniversary is talking about iphone so much um and and then i feel like i i learned something that's like oh okay that does sound useful that does sound like you know a small improvement but like one that and this one felt so this one seems like it's all about new improvements to the ios in the next ios update ios 16 and what one of the headlines i saw is face id for iphone will now work in landscape which that feels somewhat limited like i wouldn't even notice that i don't think

but maybe that's the idea they're like we're doing so much for you assholes and you don't even appreciate it yeah i mean there's like there's like a i don't know there's a new operating system ventura there's all the one thing that i thought was interesting was that you can edit messages now or unsend messages I don't know what that means for like accountability when you're like no I never said that shit like unsend text messages

and like I yeah huh so that is one thing that message you can you can not only can you delete and unsend texts in Apple's new iOS 16 but now you can use share plain messages to watch shared content with others okay and also you don't have to have your id or something like that again i'm just what's is there going to be new hardware or is it going to be more it's got five

cameras and you can hold it sideways to open it like i'm never open it sounds like this is always this is always software not hardware right right right but they're also talking about like this new macbook and like you know some hardware speeds they're they got all kinds of stuff they're talking about all that i'm always i'm easy i'm easy to please i'm always learning about things i'm the the way uh i am with music where i like find out about the really good shit three years later, I just found out about that you can use the space bar to scroll around as a cursor. I'm old.

I'm an old man. I'm like, did you know that you can shake a thing and undo? I'm like, yes, grandfather. Undo typing? I know, yes. What the hay? And I'll strain the tapioca out of your pudding this time. Thank you. So it's the way you like it. It's too hard!

Having shit for a week? That's not the reason, Mr. O'Brien. You have to take the supplements the doctor tells you you need. Screw Fauci! Your doctor's name is not Fauci. Screw Fauci. Also, you were saying there's a three-finger double tap

that allows you to undo something? Yep. That's good. That's cool. That's something I just learned today. So, anyways. You can do all kinds of short cups. Short cups?

Shortcuts, man. Yeah, get a hair butter. Get a hair short cup. Thanks. I will thanks i will all right well my brain is melting great um so that's gonna do it for today and look at that right on time uh fuck about you you know thank you been saying that for months i think that's what's gonna happen to me like if i go into senility of all the time I've spent my prime, like mental years looking at like fascism and stuff in the eye, like I become some old edge Lord, like senior citizen. Like he says some really weird stuff about the oath keepers.

And I'm like, I'm doing like references. Y'all don't get this. Ah, right. Now they're putting me with the racist old people, the old folks home. All right,

guys, that is going to do it for this Monday, June 6th. We're back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. We'll talk to you all tomorrow.

Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.

Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.

Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports

on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.