The Daily Zeitgeist - Patriotic Price Gouging, Trump Begging For Jet Money 3.14.22

Episode Date: March 14, 2022

In episode 1203, Miles and guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by producer, writer, and podcaster Oz Woloshyn to discuss Trump Heat Check, PATRIOTS AT THE PUMP!, Daniel Kaluuya and more! Trump He...at Check MAGA-world fails to flock to Truth Social Congressional Republicans Have Found Their Red Line PATRIOTS AT THE PUMP! The GOP’s Four Biggest Lies About Joe Biden and Fossil Fuels   Visit: kaleidoscope.nyc Oz's Podcasts: Forgotten: Women of Juárez    Sleepwalkers LISTEN: Champion by Liam BaileySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:04 That means it's substitute time. Diet Coke. March 14th, 2022. We all know what that is. That means it's fucking Pi Day 314. Put it in the air. Whether or not you're celebrating the mathematical concept of Pi or you love a wonderful baked dessert as Pi. I shout out to this guy I used to play soccer with on Pi Day. He would have a party. He was like an engineer, but also make like a spread of pies. Always missed out on it because it didn't feel like the event for me. But I respect it.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I am Miles Gray, like I said, a.k.a. Oh, let's try this a.k.a. I wish you would eat from the right end, my friend. You could take the time to peel it how the banana gods intend. And if you want to start at the stem, I won't understand. And that was in reference to a past guest talking about eating apples from the bottom,
Starting point is 00:03:14 eating bananas from the bottom. Okay, like these are, apparently these are new techniques of eating these fruits. I did not know. Shout out to Scouty McCoo on the Discord. But let's not distract from me let's talk about today's guest co-host one of my favorites i don't even think i need to
Starting point is 00:03:31 introduce this person i'll just say what do you hear that was that a goat i don't know maybe it is maybe it's one of my favorite co-hosts and people in podcasting. The just uber talented producer, host, media critic, media, everything. Lives and breathes everything media and helps me look good. Without further ado, please welcome my guest host, Joelle Moniz. Hey, what's up, Miles? How you doing? I'm great. I'm great. I'm great. It's pie day. You know, it is pie day. You know? It is pie day. You know, shout out pie.
Starting point is 00:04:06 It's just a blessing unto us. Oh, 100%. Go get your cheap pie, guys. It's out there. Yeah. I mean, I'd imagine, right? Like, shouldn't like a Marie Callender's do something like... They all do it.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Listen, if you're near a milk bar, you can go in. What? You can get some of their milk bar pie for like... I think they're doing it for $3.14 or something like. Oh, you can get that sugar bomb for $3.14? Go live your best life. I had, I'm not, okay, full disclosure. I had one of the Milk Bar Pies, which used to, let's not forget the problematic name.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yeah, we remember what it used to be called. Okay, we're not going to talk about it. But I had one of those. And after eating a slice of that pie i had a cookie and the cookie tasted like salt because my my like sugar receptors were so blown out from having one slice of that pie i could only taste the salt in a cookie anyway shout out to that but without further ado let's welcome today's guest you know it's not often this podcast is graced with, you know, Emmy and Peabody Award winning producer, writers, podcast talents, and even people with wonderful accents from abroad. I am thrilled to welcome today's guest.
Starting point is 00:05:19 You might know them. Actually, they've been on the show before. Back then, you know, working on a show called Forgotten Women of Juarez. And also you might remember them from the show Sleepwalkers okay also another iheart joint but without further ado please welcome to the stage Mr. Oz hi hi miles nice to be here again hi joelle very nice to be on the show with you as well thank you for having me i've been dusting off those Emmys and Peabody's in preparation. There you go. Just looking at them. I think there's a twinkle in your eye, a rather entertained twinkle,
Starting point is 00:05:54 as you listed off my 10-year-old creds. Those are awards. Don't be modest. You know what I mean? 10 years ago, what the fuck was I doing? 2012? We don't want to talk about that. I got a video on the front page of BuzzFeed because I got so fucked up drinking boxed wine. You know, that's pretty good. That was the heights I was hitting in 2012. I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah, you can't find that video on the internet anymore. Oh, look at Crafty. I can't scrub my worst mistakes from the internet they're out there uh as i can tell you're over the awards because you're the first person who has those awards that hasn't had them framed in the background of your image every time i have a award-winning person they're like and these are my awards just casually placed behind me uh didn't set it up that way that's just where they live oh thank you thank you for giving me the favor of telling the listeners i don't i those behind me. I do have some very strange family photographs as an old tennis balls because even two and a half years into COVID, I haven't figured out how to do that elegant zoom behind blur thing.
Starting point is 00:06:54 So everyone gets to look deep into my ear. I think in a way that's its own thing, right? Like you see people with really well, you know, designed intentionally placed backdrops for theirs because i get it we live in a zoom world and we have shit like room raiders where people are like be like look at this person's room but what the i mean if anything i feel like it should represent who you are and if you look at my background background you know i don't i'm not really that into designing the background in fact i'm just some guy in a room that's kind of dirty Background, in fact, I'm just some guy in a room that's kind of dirty.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So that's who I am. Do you have any love for Pi, Oz, on Pi Day 314? I mean, funny enough, I didn't put two and two together. I didn't know what you were talking about, but I was smiling and nodding as all good podcasts, I guess, do. And now I've slowly figured it out. Because I guess you do it different in the UK. It would be 14-3. Yeah, exactly. No, but Pi Day, I mean, it's good that Pi Day and Friday coincide
Starting point is 00:07:47 because I think Pi Day would feel a little bit sad if it wasn't also Friday. Oh, technically this is Monday. Oh, sorry. This is technically Monday. Nothing to brighten up a Monday like Pi Day. Exactly, exactly. Well, then I guess like in the UK, because since the day comes before the month, today will be 143. I love you day.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Oh, yeah. Look at that. Did y'all not do that in the UK? 143? I'm sure the other kids did, but I'm not sure how it was included. I think this is like old person pager code talk because that's where it first started. You'd be like, yo, and then my little shorty in sixth grade would hit my little pager with one, four, three. You did not have a pager in sixth grade, Miles.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Oh, I did. I said, I don't want anything except a pager. And my grandma. Come on, grandma. Shout out to you, granny. Rest in peace. She got me that because that's what grannies are supposed to do. They spoil you even though they're like, what does he need a pager for?
Starting point is 00:08:47 He's good in school. He needs a pager. And I'm like, thank you. Gotta love the grandparents. Okay, Oz, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. Aside from the fact that you're humble, you're modest, and you don't like to wave your awards in people's faces. But we're going to talk a little bit. Just give people a preview of what we're going to talk about. Just a quick heat check on Trump. You know, where is he
Starting point is 00:09:08 at with everything? We like to always kind of just check in to see what's his, is his death grip on the party still strong? Is it relaxing? Is it going to be the thing that brings the party down? I don't know. Let's just look at a few dimensions and we'll go from there. We'll also talk about this idea of being a patriot at the pump, man. All these Americans are willing to pay higher gas prices to, you know, just to help in solidarity for the people of Ukraine and to give really to stick it to Putin. But is that is this is this from the gas industry? What are we talking about when we say we're being patriotic by enduring high prices i think that's more of a profiteering thing than anything so we'll talk about that also joelle look this is why i'm always like come on break break me off with something interesting
Starting point is 00:09:56 because you know i i have my head in the newspaper so much yeah literal newspapers all the time i don't know what's happening out there with the entertainment. And you got something interesting about Daniel Kaluuya. It's a bomb. When it hit yesterday, I said, what is happening? Okay. We got to get to the bottom of it. Okay, so we're going to get to the bottom of it.
Starting point is 00:10:17 We're going to find out what's going on with Daniel Kaluuya. We'll talk about all that plenty more. But first, Oz, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are, what you're into right now? Well, I just started a new podcast company with Mangesh, who I know you know very well. Oh, yeah. We love Mangesh. Oh, yeah, we love Mango. Shout out, Mango.
Starting point is 00:10:40 He truly is my better half in this business. I'm sorry for everyone that it's me, not him, sitting here. But he came up with the name for our company, which is Kaleidoscope. Right. I just saw the trades. I saw you all signing a deal with WME. You know what I'm saying? I saw that.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I keep my ear to deadline. Keeping up with the trades, exactly. And so we called the company Kaleidoscope. And a lot of people asked us why we called it Kaleidoscope. And so I've been doing some homework after the fact on kaleidoscopes. You, always the best time to do your homework after an exam. You're like, the real answer? I thought it was a cool name.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah, exactly. Well, no, I mean, we thought it was a cool name. We like the idea of different perspective of colors of you know a moment of wonder all that kind of thing but it turns out that kaleidoscopes were actually invented in the victorian era at the same time the industrial revolution was happening and so you know then there are all these new technologies like the steamship and telegrams and people moving to the city and rail. And it was just a time when the world was being turned into data, much more crude data than now, but where basically there was all this stuff happening.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And at the same time, all these new tools for looking at the world came into existence. So the kaleidoscope, the telescope, the periscope, Sherlock Holmes' very famous magnifying glass, sadly it's not another scope. But I think what we're hoping with the podcast we make for kaleidoscope will be kind of helping people make sense of the world and providing a new perspective. And we just thought it was interesting that this kind of bulge of new technologies to look at the world in new ways came about when everyone was struggling to process modernity.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And right now, I think everyone's struggling to process post-modernity. So we hope that we'll make some podcasts that, at the very least, are provocative and fun and pay off our rather lofty name. I think it will. I mean, with my limited experience in interacting with you, Oz, I mean, I think we caught each other in LA a couple months ago. We did. You know, and between you and Mango, I feel like you will probably be able to deliver on that.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And the explanation too, I was like, I'm sure people like in a meeting would be like, yeah, why Kaleidoscope? I mean, like, you know, just kind of how like, it kind of gives you new perspective. You could twist it and then one thing looks like this. You're like, wow, that's cool. But then you're talking about, no, man, people are struggling to deal with post-modernity.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And then like, oh, my God. I wouldn't say that in L.A. normally, but we know each other well enough. Yeah, yeah. But I think that's a good, that's a really great explanation. Oh, man. I used to love, I had this one kaleidoscope. I couldn't, I still think about how many hours I could look through a kaleidoscope, like, as a kid, and always be like, damn, it's, like, always different. Uh-oh, you about to bust that kaleidoscope.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I've got a kaleidoscope right here. And it is. How do I look? Well, I can't see you, but I can see a very beautiful pattern. I mean, having a free toy that you can just spend hours looking through and seeing something new every second is kind of amazing. Actually, these were the cell phones of the Victorian era. Parents and priests and moralists said that people were starting to ignore the real world, being seduced by their kaleidoscopes,
Starting point is 00:14:03 bumping their heads into walls as they wandered around because they were so obsessed by these dangerous toys so it's interesting how history repeats itself again and again yeah oh my god were you they're probably like streetcar versus pedestrian incidents or like this person was just looking at their damn kaleidoscope walked into the road you gotta keep your head up and there was a scandal over the patents over who owned the kaleidoscope there was some commercial litigation the over who owned the kaleidoscope. There was some commercial litigation. The guy who invented the kaleidoscope, as always happens, didn't profit from it, even though it became the most popular toy of the Victorian era. So there's a lot of world history buried in that little guy.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Who'd have thought? Who'd have thought? Oz, what's something you think is overrated? Well, turning the tone slightly bleaker than kaleidoscopes, I come from a Ukrainian, my grandfather's Ukrainian refugee. And so we don't have any family in Ukraine anymore. A couple of family friends have been watching that situation with tremendous sadness and feeling conflicted on the one hand, you know, wanting to very much support the fight of the Ukrainians. On the other hand, being a bit worried about the Ukrainians being, you know, co-opted by, you know, the good guys into this war, which is going to be just a tremendous, tremendous cost to human life.
Starting point is 00:15:20 So it's a very complicated situation. And I think like the, you know i think one of the things which is overrated is the is the violent hot take and so when i saw that facebook was making a special exception to allow hate speech temporarily on its platform i thought that was pretty overrated they said as a result of the russian invasion of ukraine we've temporarily made allowances for forms of political expression that would normally violate our rules, like violent speech, such as death to Russian invaders. We still won't allow credible calls for violence against Russian civilians. Now, I don't know how you define a credible call for violence against a Russian civilian, but the one person I wouldn't want to be making that judgment is Facebook. Yeah, absolutely. They have a pretty horrendous track record, it seems when they're saying like, oh, this group of angry people kind of got away from us. And now it's spilling into real world
Starting point is 00:16:17 violence against, you know, groups of innocent people. Yeah, it is. It is always interesting to see. And it was like a curious decision right because do you think that's for them to sort of be able to begin to reason that there are acceptable forms of hate speech you know what i mean and i get like what your point is right of course people of ukraine are going to look at an invasion of russian military as being like yo fuck this fuck these people fuck all this and on one hand i think that's where meta but actually fuck it there's facebook facebook is like hmm like i feel that i feel that i get i get where they're coming from but on the other hand
Starting point is 00:16:57 when it's just going to be like un unleashed untether, like just absolute anger, just directed at just the idea of Russians, then that's eventually going to cause problems. I mean, I think a lot of Asian American people already saw the fallout of people even calling the coronavirus China flu, or say Wuhan flu and shit like that. And even something that small can turn into hate crimes. Yeah, it feels like a bit of a slippery slope.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It does. I know we're going to talk about patriotism at the gas pumps. I remember the boycott on French fries after 9-11 because the French didn't want to join the invasion of Afghanistan. So including them, although it wasn't the invasion of Iraq, I think, so they were rebranded as Freedom Fries. And McDonald's had just, I think closed down their their branches in in moscow i mean none of this stuff is straightforward but the but the kind of nexus of online hate and
Starting point is 00:17:51 conflict and i don't know it's just i'm not it's there's no there's no right answer but i just i don't think that the kind of the turning on the taps of the mob is particularly i would say that is overrated yeah and no and it's dangerous especially considering too it's like okay well what happens in the summer of 2020 when you have something to say about the police who are also killing unarmed people yeah well that's hate speech and that's dangerous like well what where why are you the arbiters of this and if it's if one thing's bad then it also it always has to be bad but i think that's the problem when you have profit-minded companies trying to like parse through the discourse and be like well this doesn't work and this
Starting point is 00:18:31 it's a very it's almost like the internet's fucked up and it's only exacerbating problems i don't know that's my hot take for today. The internet's fucked up. You heard it here first. You heard it here first. And this is idea of being out of a place that you consider your home and sort of looking on to watch like the destruction of a place that's very near and dear to you without any power over it. And you see all these people beginning to come in to figure out how they can sort of weaponize it for their own needs is really, really fucking hard to watch. And yeah, I just I pray for as much positivity for people who are like deeply emotionally affected by it because yeah a close friend of mine is ukrainian it's
Starting point is 00:19:31 very difficult for her to to watch along especially you know she's from odessa and all the news is like odessa is gonna get smashed pretty soon and that's a terrible thing like i think most american people are completely disconnected from that because they're like i don't know i'm from you know like like chicago like joelle if you were like chicago was about to get the smash put on them you'd be like oh my god that's yeah that's my home but we're already beginning to see all the ignorance and how people view the conflict there versus in other parts of the world it's become like this very it's interesting what the pandemic has done for certain levels awareness and then what this this invasion in ukraine is also doing like exposing the media is very fucked up like eurocentric white centric bias as it relates to global like militarized
Starting point is 00:20:15 conflict and we'll talk about the gas and oil companies too just everybody's got something to talk about oz what is something that you think is underrated? Well, continuing my vintage technology kick with the kaleidoscopes and your pager, I think alarm clocks are underrated. You know, we always read about how you shouldn't go to bed looking at your phone last thing at night and how you shouldn't look at your phone first thing in the morning. And I found myself feeling a little bit stressed recently. And I thought, why don't I buy an alarm clock and not look at my phone last thing at night and first thing in the morning, simply because,
Starting point is 00:20:55 you know, I have the excuse that I needed to because my alarm's on it. Since buying the alarm clock, I put it next to my bed and I haven't used it once. since buying the alarm clock, I put it next to my bed, and I haven't used it once, and instead I've been doomscrolling morning and night. However, I think the moment I put my battery in that guy, I'm
Starting point is 00:21:14 going to be feeling better. It's hard to get off the edge of doomscroll is dangerous, and especially when there's something fucked up intersecting with something you care about. It's like again, it's like the Internet's fucked up and gave us this secondary skill to be like, and now you will obsess over this. You're going to read the same headline written 40 different ways, but you're going to keep scrolling in the hopes that a new thing is going to show up to kind of begin to shift your focus,
Starting point is 00:21:43 whether that makes it more positive or more cynical or nihilistic or whatever and it's such a fucking it's a losing game and yeah it is hard to say like just to tell yourself you know what get you know if i give myself some time that dream scroll will be shorter because four things will have happened and i can absorb them all at once rather than making this a long process to watch the news once a day and or get our papers twice a day you had a morning edition and an evening edition and that was all folks what a beautiful time didn't appreciate it as it was happening would love it back turning off notifications has helped with the doom scrolling a lot and i can't recommend it highly
Starting point is 00:22:22 enough like turn off your notifications every time because otherwise every time you get that buzz you're like what's happening what's going on and I easily lose an hour you'll have like a physical response to your phone buzzing too like you'll you'll be like you'll be you'll get anxious because your phone buzzed because you're like what does that have to do is this thing I don't want to talk about or is this thing that's causing you stress or whatever and you don't want to be like that i'd rather look at my phone and be like oh look the screen has a bunch of notifications on i'll get to that yeah totally yeah i wanted to ask you guys what kind of alarm is it the old 80s one that somehow still works for everybody that's got the like almost alarm blare is it one of the
Starting point is 00:23:01 new ones that does that sweet like lulling you awake kind of vibe? Or is it like an old school with the two bells on the top that go... Oh, real old school. Well, I was worried as ever. This particular anxiety I had while I was buying the alarm clock was, what if the ticking of the hand is too much to handle? So it's a silent tick alarm clock. It looks like it's kind of got a vintage sort of air to it.
Starting point is 00:23:28 But sadly, I've actually never heard it go off because I've been using my phone. So I'll report back if you guys ever invite me back on the show. That'll be the first. I will make you hold it up along with your Peabody award. Present the awards and alarm clock, please. Do you do? Okay, so you said you're failing at not looking at your phone before going to sleep. I've only recently began
Starting point is 00:23:51 to... I just switched to my computer. I'm not sure that counts. I know. I'm like, well, it's not my phone. It's my computer. And it's a much larger image. I find it easier to fall asleep when I have a computer in front of me than my phone, which is really weird.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I don't know why, but I have gotten better at not waking up and immediately looking at the phone. Like I like to wake up, feed my pets, go outside, kind of like stretch my body. And then 15 minutes is passed. So I don't know if any of, Joelle, do you have any,
Starting point is 00:24:26 are you glued to that shit? Well, I have recently had to start meditating, which I think I've talked about on this show before, every morning and then anytime I'm close to like being too stressed out, like we're just gonna stop and take five to 10 minutes. And I use the Calm app to do that. So I'm trying to get in the habit of just like hit the Calm app button, hit the meditation playlist, and then put it down.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Because I was having a problem of like rolling over, like deep scroll through Twitter, deep scroll through Instagram, like check out the stories. Like it was my morning news. And then I would play Wordle. It was a problem. Things were not getting done in the morning. it was things were not getting done in the morning so yeah so now i'm on like meditate try to like shower wake up and then just get out of my room as fast as possible otherwise it's an issue i can't be working in my room all the time anymore it's mindfulness mindfulness okay yeah uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back to just just check
Starting point is 00:25:24 in on trump's just a quick heat check real quick. All right. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control
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Starting point is 00:29:17 Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Time for a heat check. Trump. Okay, last week, he had, he had, oh man, this is quite a week for him last week.
Starting point is 00:29:43 On Wednesday, last Wednesday, he was talking about all the, during the Texas Republican primaries, like, everybody I picked, they're winning so well. They're doing so great. He couldn't have been doing better. You know, he left out the part where most of them are running unopposed. But sure, de facto kingmaker here. de facto kingmaker here. And he also conveniently ignored how many of his other handpicked candidates were not doing that great, like David Perdue, who he is trying to sick on his arch nemesis, Governor Brian Kemp in the governor's race for Georgia, because Brian Kemp famously refused to rat fuck the election for Donald Trump. So Trump is now just using the strategy of like, well,
Starting point is 00:30:24 then you're my enemy and I'll send a bunch of unqualified candidates who don't have as great a chance of winning after you to create more intraparty fighting. And, you know, a few years ago, his endorsement meant a lot. Like, you know, it was the kind of thing that a lot of elected people would be like, well, God, I got to get that endorsement. If he goes against, if he picks this other person, then I'm cooked. But that potency has decreased a bit. And now that he's out of office, his strategy just seems to be really just to use his endorsement as an attack against other Republicans that he has deemed disloyal. So not a great strategy if you're looking at the long term, but a great strategy if you just want to
Starting point is 00:31:06 serve your ego, which I'll give him that. That's his superpower. And aside from that, I think we're also seeing that there's a lot of a lot of Republicans who are really trying to distance themselves from Trump's pro Putin comments, that it's becoming a little more clear that there's like this openness to disagreeing in public with the former president. And now that's probably because support for Putin is already just very low outside of like the OAN and Newsmax and like Fox News crowd. But this like people like this, you have Representative Mike Simpson, a Republican from Idaho says, quote, I agree with Pence that there's no room in our party for apologies for Putin. Again, that's a direct shot at Trump. And like people followed up that question when he said,
Starting point is 00:31:50 OK, when he said he agrees with Mike Pence that there's no room for Putin apologists, when he was asked, like, is that sort of the wider sentiment? Like in most of the Republican conference, the journalist asked, he said, yep, yep, that's pretty much the widely held consensus. John Katko from New York, another Republican, he was more direct. He said, Putin isn't a genius and neither is Trump. So I think it's an easy win for Republicans because it's such a clear thing. You're not intellectually built to try and argue why Putin is a genius and why that's good for everything that you stand for as a politician. But like, so I'm not holding my breath in the sense that I'm like, oh, the tide is turning.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But it is clear that they do see that it's a it's very problematic for them to take that sort of idea on and sort of campaign on it. Because I look back at a few years ago, and you have people like Lindsey Graham, who would over backwards trying to defend his like overtly racist remarks. And you're like, holy shit, he's got everybody like lockstep with this nonsense. But I think this one, it's like just so it's so obvious that this isn't that's this ain't the take for the party to be hopping in on. for the party to be hopping in on. And it is bad. I just want to point out, like, it gets pretty bad when you have people like Sean Hannity, who are essentially begging Trump to, you know, maybe condemn Vladimir Putin. Let's hear that. You came under some fire when you said that Vladimir Putin is very smart. I think I know you a little bit better than most people in the media.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And I think you also recognize he's evil, do you not? Well, I was referring to the fact that he said this is an independent nation, talking about Ukraine. And I said that's something that this is before there was any attack. He's calling it an independent nation. Now, a lot of things are changing. When you look, this doesn't seem to be the same Putin that I was dealing with. But I will tell you, he wouldn't have changed if I were dealing with him. He wouldn't have changed. You know, I supplied and I know Biden is trying to take credit and they're all trying to take credit about.
Starting point is 00:33:59 OK, so now he just starts. He completely missed that off for him to take. And he just goes on to be like, you know, I got the, he goes on to be like the javelin anti-tank busters. I gave them that. And Hannity's even like, Oh my God, bro. Like, please let me try one more time. Like the, the interview goes on for a little bit more and Hannity tries fucking one more time.
Starting point is 00:34:23 He's like, here, here it is again. I'm going to put the point out that you do not want to agree with this person. You want to be opposed to the actions of Vladimir Putin. Maybe this will be the time he starts to listen. Maybe not. Let me go back then to the issue of the criticism, because I've known you well over 25 years. And when you got criticized for saying that Vladimir Putin is smart, we've had many conversations.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And you've often quoted to me Sun Tzu, the art of war. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Is that how you viewed vladimir did you view vladimir putin and people like president xi and kim jong-un and the iranian mullahs as enemies that you needed to keep close i got along with these people i got along with them well that doesn't mean they're good people it doesn't mean anything other than the fact that i understood them and perhaps they understood me. Maybe they understood me even better. That's okay. Because they knew there'd be a big penalty.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Anyway, so he goes on to not condemn anything and just says, actually, I'm really good homies with them. Thank you for bringing that up. And he really did the thing where he was trying to do like when I'm sure in the past when he said racist stuff and you got to be like, hey, man, I've known you a long time. And I know that's not your heart. You know what I mean? Because you've hired black people in the past when he said racist stuff and you got to be like, Hey man, I've known you a long time. And I know that's not your heart. You know what I mean? Because you've hired black people in the past. So how do you feel when people tell you to try and paint your words like that? And then you be like, exactly. You know, I've been a big supporter, blah, blah, blah. He couldn't even
Starting point is 00:35:56 do that in this instance. He's, I think very much locked into this idea that it's only him that could have prevented an invasion because he was so close with vladimir putin and that's essentially the the uh the the track he's on at the moment that's hilarious just because i i don't know trump trump is such a wild figure to me because he lacks any kind of actual charisma like he's not good at giving speeches even the ones pre-written for him he's not people tune out after 15 minutes he's not attractive in the way you would think like a oh it's like a sterling political figure like a strong jaw and like a face you could trust or something and like every time he opens his mouth he sounds like an idiot uh and yet there are still
Starting point is 00:36:41 people clamoring to hear him speak that That's a, it's a trip. It's, I think, but it's, there's something, even the way Hannity was talking, right? He's, there was like a, this level of defeat. It was almost like Hannity was there to try and like prop up this old, like punch drunk boxer that he used to idolize. And is slowly realizing he's just a regular creepy old racist guy. And there's not much he can do. I guess also you have to think that probably Tucker and Hanatia are, you know, desperate to have Trump condemn Putin now. Because I think they're going to be stuck with their own support of Putin around their necks.
Starting point is 00:37:20 You know, and it's going to make their lives difficult. I mean, I think, you know, Tucker in particular, I don't know if he has designs on office or not, but it feels like the real you could do of, you know, praise for Putin and denial the Ukrainian invasion was about to happen is not going to be very helpful. want to get Trump to denounce Putin so they can kind of sweep this whole uncomfortable dalliance under the under the rug. But I gather some I mean, there are some people who are rallying around Trump in the Republican Party and still kind of supporting Putin, which is right. I mean, let alone from a moral, ethical, geopolitical standpoint, just from a, you know, self-interested point of view, it's very hard to understand. Yeah. And I think it's because it's these like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn types who, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene was at like a total fascist event that are like, you know, a white nationalist group that loves Putin. And when she was speaking, they were chanting his name and she was just like, she didn't bat an eye at that.
Starting point is 00:38:22 And people were like, what the fuck? Madison Cawthorn, we talked about last week how he was saying like Zelensky, the thug, and actually like Ukraine is so corrupt that it's and they push woke ideologies that this is a good thing that Putin is doing. And you're like, dude, you don't even know what you're saying. I think you just I think you're such on autopilot of being like, I just have to agree with whatever Trump says. And that's how I keep going without any understanding, again, of like the geopolitical nature of this, what the outcomes
Starting point is 00:38:50 could mean for anything and just being like, I don't know, man, I just do whatever Trump does. And then I think it's also important to realize that these folks really view themselves as part of like an oligarchical society. Like they think like having money makes you a better human being. And I think that many of them are hoping for a Putin victory. And, like, all they talk about is a global shift in, like, fascist direction. And so this is the start of that. And I think they're excited about it. I don't think that there's any thought other than this is our chance to win and see this swift change brought here which is right because if you can normalize yeah they want to normalize especially a lot of like the cracking down on like dissident voices or lgbtq people and they're like whoa we fucking love that oh we love that you know what i actually like and that's a lot of the talking points you hear like on oh and they're're like, I mean, look at what he's against. You know, like that really aligns with a lot of the stuff we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So why shouldn't we be there? But that's not the case here. So anyway, back to Trump, though, his his brain, like the other thing about just sort of his brand waning, right, is like truth social. His whole like fucking, you know, Twitter clone that was supposed to upend the whole discourse of the Internet came out. It was a total wet fart. Everyone like barely register. It was like a waiting line. It's like a half million people long and like people are still barely able to use it.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And if you look at it, it's it's pretty much a failure by all measures. Trump barely uses it. Melania has publicly said that Parler is her official home. His kids don't use it. Many big name media personalities in the conservative like take a sphere do not use it either. And the ones that do like they get very little engagement on it and don't seem that excited. the brand isn't as strong as it used to be, especially when you consider that, like, the main attraction to this is just being like, hey, Trump's here. Huh?
Starting point is 00:40:49 Come on, folks. But the only thing Trump's been good at selling ever is merchandise and reality TV. Like, there's not a success story in anything he's ever sold aside from that. So it's still wild to see that people are like, it's going to work. It's like, no, he's never properly invested in a company ever. Yeah. It's a stupid idea. And again,, it's going to work. It's like, no, he's never properly invested in a company ever.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah. It's a stupid idea. And again, I think the other part of that, too, is like I think he the people behind that social app and a lot of this stuff, these like Republicans who want to set up like these safe spaces for racists and fascists is that they really don't like Republicans in this country. They just derive their sense of self from merely being like the antithesis of whatever Democrats are like. They can only define themselves in relation to this other thing. They have no identity aside from no, we are the party of regressing. So if there's progress there, the only thing we know how to do is just like try and rein it in and slam on the brakes. We don't really have anything to add
Starting point is 00:41:44 outside of being like, no, not this thing they're talking about over there. And again, it shows they have no interest. So they're not interested in an echo chamber. They need these environments where they get to argue with liberals. That's their lifeblood. And I think they're also failing to understand, it's like, we don't give a fuck about a place where i can use like racial slurs without being banned like i get off on saying those to liberals that's how my life works so it's a bit of a balancing act that i think they're struggling with and again it doesn't help when the first lady's like fucking truth i use parlor like what they can't even get on the same page with their marketing. And lastly, when you talk about products, he's also begging for jet money, which was a huge thing. He was at a
Starting point is 00:42:29 fundraising event in Louisiana and a jet he was on had like an engine failure and they were forced to have an emergency landing on his way back to Florida. And I apparently freaked the fuck out of him. The next day there's emails going out to all the supporters being like we're gonna need a little how would you like to participate in funding the new trump force one project and it's and again most people pointed out that that 757 that he was going around during the 2016 campaign that's like in a fucking hangar in new york that's like beyond repair the fucking one engine needs to be replaced one of them isn't even like on the fucking plane so he's been framing this as and also this is a new air trump force one that i've been working on in secret so even the media doesn't even know about it no dude you panicked
Starting point is 00:43:17 on your fucking p-jet because the engine went down and now you're trying to grift for your own jet money you ain't got no money yeah no money and that's and she's using it on jets the fuck so i don't know it's interesting to keep our eyes on this one and again watching how the conversation is like shifting and there's like this one brief moment of like bipartisanship and like that most of the republican establishment is like no we agree yeah uh invasion of ukraine is bad we do we agree. Yeah, invasion of Ukraine is bad. We do. We agree on that, which is very. Hate seeing white people at war.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Really tears them apart. Oh, God, those kids have blue eyes. I mean, I had, I have blue eyes, you know. There's never been a war in Europe before. It's new to us. It's totally foreign. Can never, couldn't imagine. Happens to brown people. Ugh, awful. You hate to see it. Yeah to us it's totally foreign can never it couldn't imagine happens to brown
Starting point is 00:44:05 people oh awful yeah and that's all the weirdest the one of the weirdest ones i think one of the french i know it's the french foreign minister or some french minister said they drive cars like us stop it what the hell stop no they still like cars like us what did you think ukraine was before this too like did you just assume it was the stone age and then you're like they drive cars like us what did you think ukraine was before this too like did you just assume it was the stone age and then you're like they drive cars like us fuck yeah not to mention anyway so that's where that that's where we are with old trumper we'll see we'll obviously keep an eye on that because the oh another poll came out that said him and joe b Biden are in a deadlock in a potential, you know, speculative presidential election poll. But at that point, I hope Joe Biden is not running again. That's not what we need. in which different people are using this crisis in Ukraine for their own nefarious aims. And the oil and gas lobby is working over time to use this crisis as an opportunity to further their
Starting point is 00:45:10 own greed. I think one of the most common things we've been seeing is the sentiment that accepting rising gas prices is actually a patriotic act since, you know, we need to go without so that we can help others out. And I think they love this one because it's really easy. They're already, you know, they're already raking in record profits. Okay. And I think people here ban on Russian gas and most people wouldn't think twice to even know how much gas we actually import from Russia. It accounts for about 8% of our supply. And the U.S. produces, again, just a side note, enough oil to cover domestic needs, but we do import a ton of petroleum products still. And because of the
Starting point is 00:45:52 global market is affected by the disruptions, and we do import petroleum products, those disruptions in supply, the logic here is, well, the prices are all just going to go up. And I think most people have accepted that. And this is really just pure greed. This is an industry that was clearing over $200 billion in profits at the end of last year. And this is just price gouging. They found an opportunity to sort of insert this narrative of like, granted, yes, the market is being disrupted, but there's no room for them to eat into their $200 billion in profits to make things easier, or there's the choice to just extract as much money out of consumers as possible. And I think that's where things get a little bit murky.
Starting point is 00:46:37 And it's tough when you have people like Stephen Colbert and George Takei, who for liberals are like, hey, what do they have to say? And they're even saying the same shit. It's like, you know, we got to accept these higher prices. You know, it's just something we got to do. And I think this is also this really helps Democrats, too, because it's also a very tidy way for them to attach an external problem to explain like inflation and their lack of control over greedy corporations.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Like, this is this conflict, you know, so we got to we got to do what's right. explain like inflation and their lack of control over greedy corporations be like it's just this conflict you know so we gotta we gotta do what's right you know there's gonna be a little bit of pain for working people a lot of pleasure if you're in the c-suite at a fucking fossil fuel company yeah and it's just given a lot of like the these talking points to be marched out by gas and oil bootlickers like you hear this thing of like the, these talking points to be marched out by gas and oil bootlickers, like you hear this thing of like the Keystone XL pipeline, this, that would have defeated Putin if we just didn't block that.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Cause it darn fucking like environmentalist hippies. That is not a production pipeline. There's no additional oil come because the keys, like they don't, again, people just say this and they don't talk about the keystone xl was to move oil from canada to like texas to be refined and then shipped abroad it wasn't because the keystone xl was like oh man we got this whole gas station called keystone xl that we haven't turned on and we get all this kind of oil and gas lobby talking points being
Starting point is 00:48:02 injected into the discourse to tell us that, you know, we need more fossil fuel when in fact it sounds like we need less. I thought one of the most cynical little moments that's come out of the last month or so was the, like, normalizing of relations between the US and Venezuela. So, you know, obviously Venezuela was a pariah state and, you know, Maduro was an unacceptable dictator and the U.S. foreign policy establishment had to support the opposition. And now all of a sudden it's fine. Maduro is a great guy. He's released political prisoners and Venezuelan oil and gas is going to be coming onto the market in the u.s and it's like fair enough like it's good it's good to be looking for alternative oil and gas sources i guess to make sure that people don't have to pay the price of the pump etc but like just the like the 180 180 no explanation
Starting point is 00:48:55 just like oh actually like situation has changed so this person who is unacceptable dictator is now a great person to do business with it's just like i don't know i i don't understand there's no why politicians can't treat citizens like adults i mean if they explain okay look he's still not a great guy here's the situation we're going to do business with him it's like okay probably get that but like there's just like total about face like it's almost like you know some kind of weird gaslighting that like how quickly the oh yeah change like who's in who's out 100 you had people being like maduro is killing his people with socialism i mean a roll of toilet paper costs nine thousand dollars this is this and this is why we don't want to go down that path and mistreat our people to i love him and that is i think i you know if the media was a
Starting point is 00:49:47 little bit more you know less controlled by corporate interests they'd probably point that out in their coverage they'd say why have we gone from saying look at this place over here it's a mess they're evil we shouldn't sanction them to fucking hell but then suddenly we found a way to completely shift the perception from a policy perspective and say, like, no, there's actually great there. They've been the coolest people forever. And this is all fantastic. And I think that's the other part of like all this, this maneuvering that happens politically, because going into midterms, you don't you're trying to figure out what's the best form of leadership. Do you do you make gas prices cheaper? Do you just say, fuck, well, because the corporations are literally just trying to offset like, you know, the lost profits from 2020 and coming back with a vengeance now by bringing raising prices? Do we what do we do with that? And I think it's really difficult for just like everyday people to kind of see like the contradictory talking points and policies that have been happening this whole time.
Starting point is 00:50:49 This also seems like a real big missed opportunity for Democrats to like reach out to their base. The idea that like at this point in time, Democrats could very loudly be saying like, not only do you not need to raise your gas prices, but what alternative fuel options can we be investing in at this time like we are literally exiting a global changing event now is the time to like hop on new ideas and and i think that people are very much prepared to embrace them specifically folks who lost so much money during the pandemic there's a complete disconnect between it's patriotic to spend more money on gas.
Starting point is 00:51:28 And some people have been jobless for the last two and a half years. And you gave them what? $1,600. There's not, there's what? I mean, 2000, 2000.
Starting point is 00:51:40 If you count that other 400. Okay. I mean, I did say 2000 to get people to buy groceries for a month 400 from earlier. Oh, okay. I mean, I did say 2,000 to get people to the polls. It did buy groceries for a month for a family of three, maybe. It's bizarre to me, specifically considering that we are the Democratic. There's not enough space between Democrats and Republicans as far as voting goes right now. You've got midterms coming up, and they're really just sitting on their hands
Starting point is 00:52:05 when there seems to be an abundant opportunity to like make a statement to their people like, hey, we're here for you. We can do things better, differently and save you money, which everyone enjoys. Every person is like, oh, we're going to not have to spend so much money. Perfect. Well, and I think there's Bill like, you know, Ro Khanna has introduced a bill that would essentially that's being sponsored by like Bernie and like Elizabeth Warren and a few other people that is essentially to tax like the windfall profits of the oil and gas companies at like 50 percent. And then redistribute those funds in the form of quarterly checks to people, like at the same thresholds that the stimulus checks were saying the income thresholds. Again, similar, you know, 75,000 for individuals, 150 for couples. And it would basically be anywhere between 200 for like
Starting point is 00:52:51 around 250 bucks a year for a person per quarter that you would get from basically being like, all right, we skimmed the oil and gas corporate profits. And there it is. Now we'll see where that goes. Cause obviously republicans the last thing they're gonna be like what are you talking about but i think we really need to have a lot like this larger conversation about a like you're saying we need to get the fuck away from fossil fuels and this industry is built on extracting not only just massive resources out of the ground but squeezing people for every single dollar they have while also contributing to earth death. Like the, the death is a big one.
Starting point is 00:53:28 The absurdity of it all is one that's not being examined close enough. And I think while it's commendable to merely say like, yeah, man, we got to take some of this money. It's like, no, we need to fucking nationalize this industry at the very least.
Starting point is 00:53:40 This is like too much shit depends on this. And at the same time, it's also the, the, the cause of and solution to all of our problems apparently not homer simpson yeah boy so keep your eye keep your eye there all right uh let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk you know lighter fare
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Starting point is 00:58:20 this daniel kaluuya thing and his life strategist? And I was like, hold on. I only understood the Daniel Kaluuya part. What else is going on? So there's big news for people who don't know Daniel Kaluuya. Most memorably, I think, for people who aren't, if you don't know his name and immediately know who that is from Get Out and, you know, many other films. But to keep it simple, Daniel Kaluuya is having a bit of a controversial career shift, career shakeup or something? There's a lot happening around him. A career shift is such a nice way to put it. And I want to first state that
Starting point is 00:58:51 a lot of these details are new and incoming. And so I'm going to do my best to just give you what facts we have and we'll lightly speculate. Okay. So here's what's happening. Daniel Kluay, star, right? He's been in so many iconic movies, Black Panther, Get Out, he's doing dope with Jordan Peele next. It's the hottest thing happening right now. His team, similar team to Steven Spielberg's, I think they had the same agents. A couple of months ago, he fired everybody. Whole team gone, and they have all confirmed they're no longer
Starting point is 00:59:26 working and by team we typically mean like a manager agent publicist publicist all of them checked out and gone which is bananas right he's replaced reportedly his team with a self-help guru i think they called her like a gem specialist named Air Holiness. That's H-E-I-R. No! Apparently, she also goes by Air Princess. She is 50. She describes herself as headmistress
Starting point is 00:59:57 for the International Alma Mater of Blessed University. What it is, we don't know. Okay, headmistress. Yeah, yeah. Does she... Oh, no oh no go on i'll just lay it out and then i'll have my questions after i'm sorry yeah questions keep popping up as you describe this that's okay so a cia spokesperson told the post i can confirm that jenny clue is not a client of the agency any longer our holiness has marginalized dk's usual team this is according to the post and Okay. Very, very, you know, consistent sources. But, you know, again, we'll lightly speculate.
Starting point is 01:00:33 We'll lightly speculate. Yeah, we're lightly speculating. A source has said Air Holiness has taken over his life. Now, she had posted on her Instagram earlier, basically being like, Oh, I work with Daniel and I love it and it's great. Then she pulled that and said she never worked with Daniel. So what is the truth? We don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:52 My most interesting speculation on this is that apparently having her around the set of Nope was a nightmare. The quote from the insider is, I've heard there were multiple blow-ups and the production people were afraid of her. There's another rumor that she ran off another girl that he was seeing and that apparently it's just her and him now. They've been seen hot air ballooning. What? So is it romantic?
Starting point is 01:01:18 Is it spiritual guidance? Does she even really work for him? We don't know. but we know that they are physically they they do know each other and they do interact we have seen them in photos together both in public spaces and it looks like on set in a makeup room but we're trying to figure out is she cardinal risha lu to his louis the 14th exactly okay for all my friends my french history fans out there is she in his ear the one pulling the strings behind the scenes and merely he is the vessel
Starting point is 01:01:54 for her her aims is she even like does she even have any like real functional experience representing okay or she's literally air or air holiness or whatever uh there were okay so where did i put this article i'm like you a tabby cat 7 000 tabs i know somewhere it says that she has a phd in not metaphysics but something hold on i have it here but that's not But that isn't entertainment business Accounting Oh definitely not that Definitely nothing that we can see Also her real name is
Starting point is 01:02:32 Vanyola Salima Mahomed Okay and she's Air Princess And Air Hornet 50 Here's a quote from her Instagram account I'm just a spiritual gangster serving a life sentence in a human body. Well put. Okay. It is funny. I mean, when you think about the Hollywood system, when you go to LA and like it slowly starts to unfurl itself and you realize that like every quote unquote talent has like an agent and a manager and a publicist and a lawyer,
Starting point is 01:03:02 and a manager, and a publicist, and a lawyer, all of whom are on the gravy train. And so this idea that just clearing out the whole slate and putting everything in Air Holiness's hands, you can kind of probably understand some of the temptation. But I mean, it's such a strange system to begin with. And I mean, didn't Johnnyny depp isn't he in some kind of litigation with his manager who like ended up spending all of his money i mean it's like it seems i mean a lot of people end up getting fucked over by you know seemingly trustworthy
Starting point is 01:03:35 handlers or team members or whatever so in a way you may as well just jump into the deep end with the spiritual gangster serving a life sentence in a human body. Yeah, fuck it. You're like, I heard Bill Murray doesn't have any reps and he handles all his shit by himself. You're like, I might as well. Look, I could do that with the help of air holiness, crystal guidance. Anna just put into the chat that she says her online bio says that she has, quote, a BS, MS, and PhD in holistic health, parapsychic science from the American Institute of Holistic Theology. And she is skilled in wellness coaching, executive coaching, spiritual healing. These are all capitalized.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Energy healing and building relationships, among other things. Okay. Daniel, please let us know what's going on. Yeah, it's interesting to me, the sort of like fan reaction, because we can't nail down specifically and because this is page six and we can only take it with so much seriousness the conversation has sort of turned to who's this older woman taking over his life or is this his get out character coming back to haunt him someone was like flash a camera in his eyes is he there right excessive but i think we saw similar conversations around aaron taylor john, who has a 24 year age difference between him and his wife. They are still very much in love. They got kids together. They've sort of take over a person's life and not just steal money but you know derail
Starting point is 01:05:07 the direction of their career and daniel clu is such a a celebrated black actor he's so extremely talented that i think it's kind of daunting for a lot of people to consider that perhaps like the best is over for daniel if or if all the stories are true or he just has trash taste in picking a partner I mean who among us and that's and that's it you know but but it also sounds like the kind of thing where they're like yo he's caught up with I don't like her and they're like man he fired me and then you come back like we're really worried about him and he might just be like yo dude I'm kind of into this freaky older lady who heals me with crystals and shit that's kind of it i'm still a good actor still i'm not fucking up my career i just this is who i rock with now and i'm sorry if it's hard
Starting point is 01:05:50 for y'all to accept that i don't know it'll be interesting to see once the dope press tour starts how that plays out if she's around i feel like that's usually the part where partners of this ilk get uh troublesome it's like when they're in the room with the press and they're like talking over their partner for them yeah when she was like in the street trying to defend him after the rush you don't even know the name of the person he's like all right hilarious hilarious stop stop like he comes on like daniel's doing press and he's like he's like wearing all these robes and shit and like flowy scarves. And they're like, sir, he's like, please call me Ernest.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And you're like, I'm the reincarnate. That's when maybe we can start worrying. But yeah, I it's I'm I'm I'm always curious. I always like seeing people's interesting career moves and relationships. But I don't know. What's what's your feeling on this? Do you think that this is a person who's grifting is daniel just doing his thing and he's kind of making a weird decision and he likes this person and everything's all good he just has trash taste
Starting point is 01:06:53 and that's upsetting people or you think well what do you think's going on initial reaction was this is bad and daniel get out no pun intended i'm a girl and so it's hard for me to be like she uses crystals she's crazy i have crystals i've done some terror readings before you know i like the woo-woo things so i really yeah totally so i don't i don't know what's been most interesting to me is her denial of it of even working for him right she i mean i mean and even further she was like people say i work with daniel collet that's wild i would love to work with him almost as if she doesn't know him but again we've seen pictures but also pictures are faked so well today that you always have to take that with a grain of salt is it a deep fake can you imagine
Starting point is 01:07:40 he's like that's my auntie right he comes back he's like i've never seen this woman in my entire life what are y'all talking about but i guess it says something much larger about the way we view celebrities and that we really need them to be okay in order to support what's happening like in order to like invest in their career decisions right like if you think daniel cluey's gone off the deep end with this woman who's scamming him like can you take his films seriously i think every day i understand more and more celebrities like desire to completely disconnect from their fan base because we're kind of involved at a level that doesn't allow them to move with any kind of comfort like if you make a mistake and i don't
Starting point is 01:08:23 mean in the like cancel culture blah blah blah bullshit i don't believe you're just so deeply scrutinized in general yeah yeah that it's hard to just breathe and be like oh i want to try this thing is that is that gonna work for me or while my fans hate that i did that i have to now make a stupid false apology about something i was interested in like that's it's messy man and so i don't know i hope he's all right i hope it's not a scam i like a lot of his movies yeah i think i also think it's easier because daniel clay constantly plays characters that black culture criticizes in a very intense way so like you're dating a white girl oh when he like fucked up he betrayed his friend in black panther and then his wife had to come collect him with their pet at the end like he he's constantly playing these characters where we're like, that's us.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Why would you do that? And so I think that kind of bleeds into his real life too. A little bit. Yeah. I kind of low key. I kind of want him to, I like the idea that air holiness, that there's something really weird going on. And maybe he's just also like, nah, man, I'm, I'm really in this. I'm like, I'm done acting.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Like I'm all about the air now. I'm airbending. Listen. Okay. I can see it. Well, man, I'm really, like, I'm done acting. Like, I'm all about the air now. I'm airbending. Listen, I can see it. Well, thank you so much, Joelle and Oz, for joining me today to talk just the whole spectrum of topics today on Monday to start the week off. Oz, where can people find you and follow you? And is there any tweets that you've laughed at or just enjoyed in general? You can find me on Twitter, Oswaloshin and my dear friend
Starting point is 01:09:50 Cara who I did the Sleepwalkers podcast with, her Twitter always keeps me very entertained and one of her latest gems was about milk. You know you're old when somebody calls regular milk classic milk. Classic milk?
Starting point is 01:10:08 As we've gone from skim to soya to almond to now oat. Wow. Just a nice glass of classic milk. Classic. And a log of lamb's log. Pager. Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:10:20 What could be better? Shout out to classic milk. You know, all about the classics. You know me. Joelle, how about you? Where are you at? Where do they follow you? Where do they hear you?
Starting point is 01:10:30 What's the tweets you like? Joelle Monique, you can follow me all over the internet. At Joelle Monique, it's J-O-E-L-L-E-M-O-N-I-Q-U-E. Some classic tweets. Alan Menken, the genius, tweeted yesterday, I strongly oppose the don't say gay bill in Florida. I hope my friends and colleagues within the Disney family will join me in saying so publicly. Come collect your folks, Disney people.
Starting point is 01:10:51 The time is now. We have to make change or children will die. Andrea J. Phillips tweeted, Dropping my son off at high school this AM and noticed every student was using both straps. That said, when I was in high school, late 80s, early 90s, everyone wore their backpack slung over one shoulder. And it's considered the height of nerdiness to use both straps that said when i was in high school late 80s early 90s everyone wore their backpack slung over one shoulder and it's considered the height of nerdiness to use both straps please back me up to which i say a yes i was there and i saw it and that was real you did not imagine it andrea we were only using one strap but on the other hand i really hope children continue to
Starting point is 01:11:20 use both straps you don't need back problems in your early 20s it's stupid okay your books are very heavy use both straps don't let people consider you a nerd live free children you guys are doing so much better than we did i'm so proud of you i remember when people started like i remember rolly bags starting showing up like towards the end of my academia career and i was like you will get flambéed pulling up in here with that old grandma's grocery cart of a backpack are you serious not a hot come on everybody walk with one droopy shoulder because you got 70 pounds of books on one fucking part of your body messenger bags came into fashion when i hit high school had one bagged my mother
Starting point is 01:11:56 she got me a nice leather one it was pretty hurt my back so much so much it was not even distribution nope did not help really really effed me up Especially if you're like a kid who didn't go. I barely went to my locker because that would eat into my time during in-between class, like during nutrition, just fuck around with my friends. So I carried all my books out once. And that shit was a nightmare. I strategically left my books in different classrooms because teachers liked me. I'll be like, yo, man, can I just keep my books in here? And they'd be like, yeah, that's chill. Thank you, teacher. Or I'd be like, yo, man, can I just keep my books in here? And they'd be like, yeah, that's chill.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Thank you, teacher. Or he'd be like, hey, let me get your book, teach. They're like, that's the teacher's. I'm like, just shut up. You're cool, right? Not just shut up. Stop being a fucking square. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Let's see. Some tweets I like. First one is from Amber Nelson. At Amber Nelson tweeted, Amber Smelson tweeted, Got invited to someone's place for dinner and they charged me for it. This is weird, right? Yes, that is weird. You do not invite someone to your home and then charge them.
Starting point is 01:13:01 That goes against everything I know about the art of invitations and hospitality. I don't understand why you do that. Absolutely the end of the relationship. Would you bring it up if someone did that to you? would you say hey what the fuck is this are you fucking wild what is this or would you just say i'm not talking to them forever no i'm a receipts person let me pull out my phone did they ask me to pay and i missed it i got add as possible nope just a straight invite what's going on what happened here do you need money are you okay we gotta have a conversation about it because I'm not handing over money freely.
Starting point is 01:13:27 I need discourse. Well, then they say, and then they hit you with this. Well, I mean, like, honestly, like, I mean, like, the alcohol was really expensive and, like, the ingredients were, like, I spent, like, 150 bucks at the grocery store. So. Okay, cool. Here's the bottle of wine I brought. Enjoy it. Also wasn't cheap because I'm not cheap.
Starting point is 01:13:45 And I'll be out. Peace. Actually, let me just tally up all the bottles of wine I brought to your house over the last year. So, actually, you know what? How many lifts did I pay for? Right. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Get out of here. Come on. Be more hospitable, folks. And then at ForeverWyland, at ForeverWyland underscore tweeted, introverts be like, I know a spot. And then go home.land At forever wyland underscore two To introverts be like I know a spot And then go home Yeah it's true I do know a spot and it's my house And that place it fucking
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Starting point is 01:14:45 And our footnotes Thank you Joelle Where we also post everything We talked about today as well as the song We ride out on I want to go out on a track From Liam Bailey Liam Bailey is
Starting point is 01:15:01 Slowly becoming one of my new favorite artists Born in Nottingham, UK. He's English and Caribbean. He's got English parents, Caribbean parents coming together. Just playing like a fantastic singer-songwriter, but also has this really great knack for putting on older aesthetic sounds on his work to make it sound of an older period. But he's so creative
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