The Daily Zeitgeist - Peace AND Justice In Gaza? 10.24.23

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

In episode 1569, Jack and Miles are joined by activist and co-host of Beyond The Pale, Rafael Shimunov, to discuss… Jewish-Led Peace & Justice Movements In The U.S. and more! VISIT: IfNotNowMovement.org LISTEN: La Puerta by Frankie ReyesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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T-minus. One week. Seven days. Oh, Thanksgiving. Now, how low is he? Yeah, from Thanksgiving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah Oh, Thanksgiving. Hallows Eve. Yeah, from Thanksgiving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

California Thanksgiving. That's how we do it out here. That's what we call it. Oh, it's also, I was sidetracked because today is National Bologna Day, National Food Day. Hey. Which seems a little redundant, but hey. Yeah, sure. National, my bologna is a first name, so please speak it to me.

Motherfucker. Oh, my bad, my bad. My bad. Oscar. Oscar. It's National Food Day? Yeah. Like, this is the concept? You're like, hey, shut up, food. Who did it to him? Love it.

Was that day instituted by somebody who was just like, fucking everything has a day, like as an act of protest? Or was there somebody who got real high and was like, you know what hits really different these days for me? Food? Have y'all heard about this? Corporate consolidation. Like, it's just monopolies now, so they could just say food. Yeah. The one food company

one of the three places you get your quote-unquote food from uh but yeah i think it started in 2011 like hell yeah that is about when we started realizing food hell yeah food food though it hits different before i receive this award I'd like to thank food. Yeah, absolutely. Number one, first and foremost, oxygen, food. We are probably a couple years away from one of those farmer campaigns where they spend their massive, whatever the opposite of a deficit is, like all the money they get from the government. Government subsidies. Milk.

Yeah, their massive subsidies on a advertising campaign, like the got milk thing. But like, it'll be like pork. It's different. Pork. Hell yeah, dude. Hell yeah. Milk is kind of doing that. They had like a weird mockumentary thing where they're trying to like just

besmirch any like oat milk. Anything that wasn't cow milk. And I was like with Aubrey Plaza and I was like this is okay. This is cool. This is cool propaganda. Yeah. I forget what they call it but it's like tree juice or something like that. Yeah exactly. It's very derogatory. It's like tree milk or something

I think. Yeah. Anyways my It was something like that. It's very derogatory. It was like tree milk or something, I think. Yeah. Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien, aka Jack You Look Good, Won't You Piss Those Pants Up. Legs Are Plump Motherfuckers, Won't You Piss Those Pants Up. Eat Swedish Fish Ritas When You Piss Those Pants Up.

How Mgetta Lambo-ing Piss Those Pants Up. That is courtesy of Vakaroni on the Discord on an absolute heater. Autoc autocorrect why can't you just accept that the word lamboing is happening yeah without trying to turn it into lambing which is not a thing that is happening is not a word lambing no we're lamboing we're lamboing sir yeah i was gonna say sir or madam, but autocorrect, definitely a man, right? The energy feels very patriarchal.

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It was one of my favorites in a while. Shout out to Fighter of the Night, man. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a creative and political activist who hosts Beyond the Pale and WBAI in New York. A must-listen these days. Always a must-listen, but especially of late. Is a caucus member of Jews for Racial and Economic Justice,

co-founder of its electoral arm, The Jewish Vote. Please welcome back to the show, Raphael Shimano! Hello, hello, hello, hello. Glad to be back. Yeah, it's good to have you, man. What's up, Raphael? How you doing, man? It's good, you know, considering gestures to the world. Yeah. That's good.

You know, considering gestures to the world. Yeah. Doing okay. But trying to, it's so weird. It's like, I think a lot of people feel this, but like when the world is like this, you're supposed to sometimes lock it out and do your job job. And it just seems really challenging

to get into normal modes, like doing laundry while you should be in the streets in what feels like all the time right now but yeah yeah yeah you've been in these streets recently arrested and for your work trying to get chuck schumer to help bring about a ceasefire yeah and to convince his niece to stop acting and stop comedy that's the first social media yeah the yeah watching the social media masks will slip on oh yeah i mean it's like all right well we're gonna get into all of that plenty more but first we're going to get into all of that. Plenty more.

But first, we do like to get to know you a little bit better by asking you, what is something from your search history that's really about who you are? I don't know. The thing I always do, and it's probably always the last thing, is I'm a bad speller. So it's every random word to just get the Google auto-correct and then use that. It's a really boring last search term, but it's what I need. That's my lifesaver over there. What word are you getting hung up on? One is always like...

So now I developed a nomadic device to remember this one. Principal versus principal pal. And I was like, you know, the principal of the school wants to be your pal. But don't trust that motherfucker. Yeah. But you just picture the principal of the school turning

his baseball cap around backwards. Hey, Raph. Raph, I want to talk to you about some of your Instagram posts, my man. Come on into my office, my dude. There you go. And now everyone's going to know how to spell that from now on.

Yeah, that's like, same thing with a capital versus a capital building. Oh, yeah. Don't know the difference. Well, I still see that one get through in established, I guess this quote-unquote, outlets for journalism, and I'm like, you can't fuck that up now. I certainly can. Can you tell me how

you keep it straight? Because this principal shit is going to save my ass every time I hear those words. I just, the toll, OL is always the building, you know? That's how I'm going to... The bell tolls. Right.

The building's round. Oh, you could do that. Oh, hell yeah. I think I only remembered it because I only saw capital written as a kid first. And then when that new one, hey, capital. It's like method now. Yeah.

Cap to cal. How's it over here? So I used to get desert and dessert mixed up. And then a girl I was dating was like, well, you always want more dessert. And dessert has two S's. Wow. Nobody wants more desert. Yeah.

So one S. We just spun off a new podcast. Yeah, there you go. Also, roll when something is rolling. Two L's. The L's get on a roll.

Yeah. And this could be the whole show. Matthew McConaughey McConaughey. McC-con-august-hay. What do you do? There it is. What are you doing to write Matthew McConaughey so often? We were doing it.

There was a run. Oh, when he was talking about fucking running. When he was thinking about running for office. And we were fully in support of it. And so we had headlines such as, why not now? McConaughey, why not now? McConaughey.

Yeah. McConaughey, how about this handsome fella? I do like to watch his scene in Wolf of Wall Street on a somewhat regular basis. The vocal warm-up right into him just fully embodying everybody I know who has ever worked on wall street yeah it's amazing patron saint of wall street bros yeah uh what is something you think is overrated overrated the pledge of allegiance i'm sure people have touched

on that right like in what way it's just so creepy it's like right like it's like hey before class begins yeah we're gonna tell you some dirty shit that we did as a nation right but before we do here's a like a blood oath bond right i would die for this shit right here i would die for this you too right five years right and then you're down for this then you kill someone in front of them yeah yeah it's like denzel and that in training that isn't being literary right right right yeah it's uh i always just think i i went to lutheran school in elementary school and i was i've always brought this up when the pledge, pledge of allegiance came up, we had to also pledge allegiance to the fucking Christian flag and to the Christian flag,

dude, to the savior for whose kingdom it stands was the whole thing. And I was just like, this is so, yeah, it's a, the flag is like, it's white with like a purple,

it's like shaped like the American flag, but it's all white. And where the stars are, it's like purple with a red cross in it oh wow very and everything else white the stripes are white no stripes it's just like basically white where you'd get blue and you don't know if they're stripes because if they're both white then you wouldn't be able to tell hey and that's all white with us it sounds about white yeah sounds about white yeah the pledge is some wild shit. I think under God was added fairly recently.

Yeah. Because at first they were like, no, what? Why? Why would we? No, our whole thing is that we did this to avoid getting God. Well, those other freaky ones. Those whole thing, guys. Yeah, that was.

Right? We don't do the God thing. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you guys are going to love this in about 200 years. Wait till you see what he says. Right. What is something you think is underrated? Oh, I think it's interesting in Jewish culture or religion.

We don't say the word God. We don't say God's name unless we really mean it so we have like a placeholder name so we say hashem because we want we don't want to like cry wolf you know god's out there listening to everything at all times and if we just keep saying god god god god god what about when i actually need god so there's Hashem, which is like, that's how you refer to saying God, but when you actually are meaning God, you have to say God's name, which I can't say on the

show unless you're giving something to pray about. But is, so you can say, like, God damn, and that's because that's not God's name, right? No, yeah, for us it's not god's name right so right but we won't spell a lot of us won't even spell god g-o-d oh right g-d if you notice right uh yeah yeah so so some people include the word god to not even say the word god which i

don't isn't it like an abbreviation for like, isn't there like abbreviated Yahweh too? Yes, there is. There's a, with an apostrophe kind of, kind of deal. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. I like just the idea. Now, now, now you better be, say something important because you said God's name and now he's listening to the podcast.

So this whole podcast. Oh no. We got to, we got to raise the bar, raise the bar. I pledge allegiance to the christian flag and his kingdom for christ oh fuck i fucked it up no uh but i do like just conceptually about being like yo don't wear god out you know what i mean don't always fucking being like please and just you're talking about like i lost my keys you know what i mean or like you're you're fucking you know like you just yeah like he doesn't want to see that but he has to check in because you said right he's like sorry you know what I mean? Or like you're, you're fucking, you know, like you just, yeah.

Like he doesn't want to see that, but he has to check in. Cause you said, right. He's like, sorry, sorry. Somebody's calling my name over.

Money shot. No, I'm busy. Yeah. Just pretend like a college roommate who errantly walk. Oh, okay. Sorry guys.

Thought I heard my name. I heard my name. Thought I heard my name. I like the idea. And I think we should do more of it. We should do more alt words for when we don't mean the word yeah right well yeah and truly because i think like in a way like i get for me personally going to like lutheran and catholic schools like it feels like it just gets worn out to a point like you say it so much you know like yeah yeah god for sure for sure yeah that's it yeah the question is nothing sacred

in this country absolutely absolutely not no no what what i'm reading a book about the nba in the 1970s like written in the 1970s and it's just wild like the things that we have fully taken for granted about how just everything, media, everything works. Like they're still getting used to it. Like the sellout-y nature and shit. And like they're just like, it's really weird. Like money comes in and kind of like corrupts things. And like the owners kind of feel like they know better than the people who like play and coach basketball, which is weird because they just made their money in frozen food. And their dad dying.

Yeah, dad's dying as a number one wealth creator, I think. In this country, absolutely. Whenever a dad, it's like when an angel loses, when a dad dies. Yeah. Someone gets a Lambo. Damn man. How I get like you.

Oh, all right. First of all, Hey, you just got to wait for your super rich dad to die. Oh, I don't know my dad. I don't think he's rich.

Well, the money rolling. Well, that's on you, man. Yeah. That's on you for not knowing. Hey, bootstrap it, man. You know, that's on you, man. Yeah. That's on you for not knowing. Hey, bootstrap it, man.

You know? That's right. Get a better dad. Yeah, I mean, stop buying those Starbucks, you know? Exactly. Exactly. Your fucking avocado toast habit is not just bad for you. It's bad for this country.

It's bad for your whole generation, sir. Yeah. At least stop. for you it's bad for this country it's bad for your whole generation sir yeah at least we were just talking about avocado toast guy because he was the same guy who was like yeah man like people need to lose their jobs so they stopped trying to think that they like employers should be giving them more money yeah that australian guy yeah dude he's the guy who he's the og avocado toast guy. And he's a fucking millennial. Yeah, he's like a young Australian millennial. Ew. Yeah. But he gets it.

He gets it. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. And we'll come back and talk about what's happening in Gaza and the movement for peace in the United States. We'll be right back. Document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up?

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Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And first of all, I listened to, I think it was the most recent episode of Beyond the Pale. It was the most recent episode that was on SoundCloud where you were talking about your experience, you know, like we referenced earlier, you know, protesting at Schumer's house, getting arrested. that there was a story from the bus that NYPD put you guys on the bus after. And there was a story about a Werther's original and about a wedding song that just like kind of warmed my heart and gave me something to warm my heart

in a place that I wasn't expecting necessarily to have my heart warmed. Can you talk about those two stories? Yeah. So we were in front of Chuck Schumer's house to push him to back the ceasefire legislation that's coming out, that already has come out since then by Cori Bush and Rashida Tlaib and others. And he's used to people in front of his house. And he also heard about it. So police were ready. So what we had to do is block the streets and Grand Army Plaza, which is a big plaza that's like a major artery in Brooklyn, where he lives. And that's where we were arrested.

I think over 53 of us or so. And of course, we were put in these buses nypd likes to commandeer mta buses when they have a mass arrest and and that's what they did here and they were basically pulling us into the bus for blocking the traffic and it's brooklyn so half the people we block the traffic where we're like cheering us and recording and putting it on social media. So we were going into the bus, and I realized, I sat down, puffed in this bus, and A, everyone, because police here pretty much are obsessed with arresting people for jumping fares, not paying fares. And everyone just started singing a song,

like just calling them out for all, like not only commandeering a bus for free, but all of them just walking in for free, which is woman, amazing, adorable activist. Her name is, we call her Roz, but her name is Rosalind Pachesky. And she's a very long time and very involved member of Jewish Voice for Peace, JVP, which was part of that coalition of left Jewish people and activists that were confronting. It was like 2,000 people came out to confront Schumer on this. And they bring her into the bar. And she sits down.

And you imagine maybe a five-foot-tall, sweet grandma. And she's walking in and sits down. Her hands are behind her back. And what we realize is that she's not really cuffed. Like she somehow is waiting to get cuffed. Pro move. Yeah. Put your hands behind your back immediately

and they'll assume that you've been cuffed. You got zip ties on her. Yep, yep, yep. I don't know the story of why she was cuffed or why maybe someone felt bad for her and they didn't cuff her. I don't know. But the thing is she has her hands behind her back and everyone thinks she's cuffed or why maybe someone felt bad for her and they didn't cuff her. I don't know. But the thing is, she's like

has her hands behind her back and everyone thinks she's cuffed. And there's this, and Zoran's Muslim and one of the few, or only actually, Muslim electeds in that state assembly. He's just like, you know, sitting there, we're all like in pain with these cuffs and

he just does the most Jewish motherly kind of amazing thing which was you just see her hand you see him and her kind of look and wait till the cops are looking the other way and then her hand slips out from her back goes into a bag and takes out a candy which i immediately realize is a werther's original yeah it is yes and zoron without a word turns around opens his mouth and she feeds him this candy and makes her hand back in behind her like she's a cuff and it just was the most amazing thing and for someone like me who often has a camera on him it was really so i'm telling i'm gonna i'm reaching molly crabapple with this story this story. I think you all know about her.

She's this amazing illustrator. And I want to have this illustrated because to me, it was this magical moment. And while I'm experiencing that moment, I mean, were there commercials like this? Didn't we grow up with were there original commercials like this? Not like in a bus getting arrested. Right, when people are protesting. It would have been way more lit. Yeah, it would.

War crimes. And they're like, hey, we know what's going on. But it was typically like an older elder somewhere. Yeah, an elder showing love. Yeah, that is weird. And none of us were ever excited by Werther's original. No. But like in that situation, hell yeah.

Like the brand is strong. I didn't even know it was still around, but I could use one right now. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, so that's like the story. That's like the ones, there's so many stories of Roz wherever you go with her. She's a powerful figure that brings a lot of history with her. She was a CUNY professor and reproductive rights scholar back in the day when like no one was that yeah she's incredible and then there was this other I think uh the other story you're referring to is while I'm like while we're kind of like looking down and we were like shaking the bus we were

like giving the cops a really hard time and um during that one of my, someone at Jews for racial and economic justice, their new political director, he came on the bus and I think, I guess enough of us knew Alicia actually got married that day, earlier that day. That day. That day, Alicia was, had her, her marriage and decided that her honeymoon was going to be getting arrested with us yeah and uh so people just started stomping and singing and it's a bustle of jews so it was like the jewish wedding song i was like everyone's like stamp stomping it was so beautiful so dope even i even caught a cop like put his hand on his heart and just be like, Oh, wait,

are you pretending? He's like, do y'all need some chairs for the horror? Like what? Take these cuffs. Sorry. Yeah. He's been to,

it looked like he'd been to a Jewish wedding. And, um, you know, those are just like the two beautiful things that happen in this kind of movement space where where people come out for real shit and still we find like joy and friendship and stuff and these things and those long conversations we have in jail cells and sitting on a jail cell and seeing the carvings of like act up uh etched on the thing and and and

one day 20 years from now someone else sitting there seeing the etchings of blm on the chairs and just getting that that energy from from this long arc you know yeah i don't know that story and just generally the movement that you're involved in is such a beautiful testament to the Jewish faith that like, I don't know. So, so many people at this time of terror are willing to like advocate for justice. And it reflects like a clarity and a humanism that is uncommon in the

religions I grew up around, you know, like a Baptist in the, in the South or like Catholicism or, you know like a baptist in the south or like catholicism or you know it was something i always followed the quakers for a while but i've always i've always admired the jewish faith and you know feel like this is a time when yeah people like the things that are getting talked about are this violent Zionism or anti-Semitism. It's like, yeah,

no. Like what, what about these stories? You know? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

But you were also there for a story that came up on the show in DC, the action on the rotunda. And the question that we were asking on this show is where the fuck was the fbi man like more evidence that the deep state has a massive left-wing bias oh am i right i mean there was yeah like marjorie taylor green said this is an insurrection with that same energy which was really baffling to see when truly we're seeing people come together to advocate for peace.

There's this Fox clip that I should send you and it's them like wondering how we got in and how we did it. And then the Fox journalist actually who was on the ground was kind of like honest and he was just like, oh, they got in by just going through the metal detector and saying that they're coming to practice free speech and that's our free speech laws

like they were trying to like make it into this big thing like right people looked away so did antifa open the doors for them yeah yeah exactly but it was just like anyone can go into the rotunda and meet their their congress member talk. You could literally talk to their staff. You pass by AOCs, you see a bunch of Post-its on the wall. She's like the rock star in Congress. So all these Post-its showing their adoration and support of AOC. It's kind of cool. and it's kind of cool. But just like, so what's the difference between that and what happened on January 6th? Like that's why I was like, oh, just because you guys

weren't ripping things off the wall and chanting that you wanted to hang the vice president? That's why you're allowed in? That's fucked up, bro. The rotunda is the public. It's basically the public door. Yeah.

Come on. Right. How'd you get this cheat code that you weren't supposed to rip things off the wall and threaten to kill the sitting vice president? But it was that. There was two actions in D.C. One was led by If Not Now, and that was sealing all the entrances and exits to the White House, which the Secret Service arrested people for. And then this event a couple of days later for Congress, and that was to really just take over the rotunda. And what happened was there was 10,000 people outside supporting us.

500 went in, and together that was the largest Jewish action for Palestinians in history, anywhere in the world. Wow. Yeah. Can you describe what If Not Now is, just for anybody who doesn't know? Oh, so there's two groups really largely at play here. One is If Not Now. And If Not Now, so I'll start with JVP, Jewish Voice for Peace, because it's older. It's like three decades old. And it started, of course,

with in solidarity with Palestinians. So it's very much like their orientation is like, go to the front line of who's being affected by the occupation and apartheid, and let them lead and we be their Jewish allies, their comrades, you know, and that's a beautiful model. And then If Not Now took it another level, not in competition or anything, but like that identifying that there's also something in our culture and how we were raised that needs to be addressed and that we need to unlearn the things that we were raised with throughout our lives. And so it's very much inward and it's very much more youth oriented at least initially and then also really specifically about ending american jewish support for for apartheid and occupation and like i and i've seen so many wild like i've seen people call jewish voice for peace

like a terrorist group like some really awful awful shit or like, and I, and Raph, since I've known you and like, you've come on the show, like we've had a lot of conversations where your work in, you know, standing up and they're being in solidarity with the people of Palestine has opened you up to all kinds of attacks, like that people would accuse you of being like self of self hatred and things like things like that i'm really curious especially for you who's so involved in this and is looking at it through the perspective you are like what that's been like to watch watch these things unfold the last few weeks and begin to see these rifts open up in really really dramatic ways and and you know like what that process is to to sort of look on

and say like so like some of us are here, others are completely there. Yeah. How do you, like what, how do we make sense of it? That's such a good question. And there's still so many open things that we're learning.

Like right now, there is a, if you saw the statistics, there is a huge difference depending on your age and like where you fall on this issue, either as an American of any faith or no faith or as a jew but i think if not now and jvp had like shift the paradigm and made it safer for a lot of people to be able to say like why am i being called anti-semitic if these jews are also believe what what what i believe and then also we do that too. We say,

why are we called self-hating Jews if Israel's largest human rights organization calls it apartheid? And there's a whole society called Breaking the Silence who are veterans in Israel who oppose the occupation. Many of them had even refused to serve and spent jail time refusing to serve. And it continues today. And these are like teenagers or early 20-year-olds. So there's all this kind of layers upon layers of people seeking safety through validation. And it's kind of sad because what results for Palestinians is that I think you've probably seen all these super clips online. And that is when Palestinians are brought on to news shows. They're not asked about if their family is OK, who they lost, what they fear.

They're asked if they support terrorism. Do you condemn them? Yeah, exactly. Do you condemn Hamas? which is really it's it's really i can't imagine what that feels like to have to be to not only have to disavow things like i posted a meme the other day it was an asteroid that was coming to earth to destroy it and i wrote yeah but do palestinians support it you know like it's just like becoming this thing we're just gross. And also when they do speak about anything with Israel and Palestine, a Palestinian has to be like a PhD in European anti-Semitism in order not to say something that's triggering. And I understand those triggers, but also there's almost zero grace for Palestinians to just even mourn or speak for their own security. Yeah. Yeah. We got this article in the LA Times over the weekend about how the left has really let us down. I mean, we've gotten this article over and over again. It's like, yeah, it's

millennials are killing X industry is the left is really there this week it's this thing and like they're going to be able to find anti-semitism on the left because there's anti-semitism everywhere like anti-semitism is a is a huge problem but in this context as you're as you're there involved in in this struggle for peace you it seems like you've seen something quite different from yeah like anti-semitism being on the ground for these protests and these actions yeah we like to say peace and justice right like peace yeah because like a lot of people right yeah a lot of people define peace and i think peace is the right word but a lot of people have redefined peace to mean quiet and uh like you know there's no there's no there's no rally as i can tell for black lives matter right now on the street that's very large right now but that doesn't mean there's there's peace

right there's still those things are still happening every day so i guess I like to remind folks to also say just this part, because peace in Gaza is four hours of electricity a day, calorie counting by Israel to not allow too much food in, water limitations, a blockade around every wall, no travel restrictions. It's just open air prison. And a lot of people define the day before that horrendous attack by hamas on civilians a lot of people define that as that day before that as peace and uh yeah uh anti-semitism yeah another thing is like it's very easy to kind of assume anti-semitism is like in the water in the air and it's really it's very easy to kind of assume anti-Semitism is like in the water, in the air. And it's really,

it's something that's manufactured by the right. And it was created by the right in Europe in order to remove, to create like a middle manager, like to create. So the core of racism is this like supremacy, ethnic supremacy. And, and for example, the idea that someone exists

like Martin Luther King or Nelson Mandela, or something exists like Black culture, defining global culture for decades and decades, all of these amazing accomplishments, all the inventions, all the things, all the scientific breakthroughs that any Black person does negates the idea of white supremacy. So a useful tool to undo that is the idea of this mystical Jewish person. This Jewish person, be it Soros or whoever, is behind the success of black people. It's behind the idea that America is a beacon for immigration and all these things. And so it's a really useful tool to, A, redirect financial pain

and suffering from capitalism to a group of people and also to protect the idea of the myth of white supremacy yeah and i guess like what i'm seeing on the streets to your question finally what i'm seeing on the streets i do see occasionally anti-semitic thing i will see and sometimes most of the time i'll call the person in and be like hey like they'll be like the jewish state this is like what the jewish state does and i'll be like well do you mean the israeli state yeah or do you mean the jewish state and then they're like oh i didn't think about that but had they said that in front of a new york post reporter that would be on the front page and would be used to define DSA, would be used to define

anything and try to destroy the left. And what I saw in Israel, there is an Arab town, I forget the name right now, there's an Arab town that after the attacks welcomed Jewish refugees. And the history of that Arab town was it was was one of, it was the site of the most horrific massacre by Jews of Palestinians, of Arabs in that town. And they still are opening their doors to the families affected by that attack by Hamas. You know, you're seeing these things on the street and you're, you're basically going to find what you're looking for. And the question is, what are you amplifying and what are you using to define an entire thing with? Yeah,

because I've seen how useful that sort of the left is anti-Semitic like that, how that take has been used by like establishment Democrats and shit to completely try and take the wind out of the sails or question the validity of people pointing out that the, the ills of palestinian people living under occupation and then just being able to sort of use this like thought-killing cliche to be like well they're all anti-semitic so let's talk now back to our person on the ground from the idf that is going to tell us exactly what's happening now right and yeah like i i see

how like in a way like for establishment politics too like this has been used to being like oh we can also sort of try and kneecap a movement as well by bringing it into this you know a very skewed perspective that they want to show absolutely absolutely and also what i saw the difference in in our protests the Jewish ones, the police were like there. And they threw a lot of people around and did this stuff. But when I went to the Palestinian youth protest in front of the Israeli embassy in D.C. on that Friday night, it was riot gear. It was cars parked in ways. There was also this guy, infamous cop, I i forget his name but he's known to have killed a blm protester and he's just walking around like it it was so different and these

were two kids right and and it was it was wild that these kids in this little residential neighborhood that of this very secure israeli embassy were met with riot cops versus us in the heart of the power of the United States, in the most sensitive part of the world. And we were just, you know, singing into a bus, you know. Right, yeah. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back. We'll keep talking about this. We'll be right back.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Raph, something I saw you pointing out on social media is this idea that Hamas is a right-wing organization. I think people understand that this Israeli government really favors settlers and, you know, what they call settlers, or I guess what are called settlers, but like really just violent militaristic intervention is a right-wing government. And it feels like we're being asked to choose between, they're just like, there's just these two right-wing options, and that's it. And you either side with one right-wing option or you side with the other.

And the whole, that was kind of clarifying to me to just think about it as like, no, well, I've never in my life sided with the right-wing option in any circumstance. Like, why should I start now but it does feel like that is getting blacked out from the entire conversation I have to admit saying

that they're a far right organization it's not like a exact match to like European or Western far right but also and it also does this thing of flattening the Palestinian resistance, which is greater than Hamas. There's a lot of groups and the most favored group, actually, like people don't know their

names and I don't even remember their names, but there are a lot of youth groups who show up without any kind of real ideology. It's more like a mutual aid kind of thing. And they have been springing up and going after soldiers and going after violent, occupying soldiers and going after violent settlers and getting killed, like more than anyone. And those are the ones that are the most popular fighters, resistance fighters by Palestinians, not these groups. Not to say these groups don't have support. Like even in Ukraine, the Azov, as we know, the Azov battalion has their neo-Nazi past and present.

And people also have this struggle of like, hey, they're like, you know, they've lost the most lives. They fought the most battles. They've won the most battles with Russia. Let's just park this ship, including the Jewish president. So there's this complexity. And I always kind of think, what if some super alien force came and started bombing Queens and some Proud Boys were handing them their ass? I might chill out for a day or two against these proud boys.

I don't know. I don't know what I would do in these situations. But yeah, it wasn't just Hamas in that breach of Gaza prison. It was other groups. In fact, you hear a lot of stories from Israelis who no matter what the news was trying to make them say, they were saying, no, this person entered my house, he asked for the keys to the car. And we told him, like,

there's no gas. And he's like, I'll take it. And he took the car. Or he asked for a banana. And we gave him a banana. And he left. And they seem, a lot of them seem just really hungry. Like, there's all these testimonies that they don't play in English in the u.s that they play in israel all the time including like to be fair like including uh there's stories of a palestinian uh person in israel using an image of the kidnapped grandma to sell pizzas you know it's like a meme and stuff like that and like israel bulldozed their pizzeria in response. There's everything you want to find, you will look for in any kind of thing.

But it's not defining all the things. I've heard some people say that Western media is actually more right wing, like further to the right than Israeli media. Absolutely. The things that I would read from even a right-wing book, or like a

centrist book like Benny Morris and all these other historians in Israel, Amos Oz, poets, like all of these Israeli hardcores, they served in the military, even prime ministers. I could repeat something the prime ministers of Israel said or the heads of security has said. And if I say that in the United States, I would be called anti-Semitic for those things. They say if I was Palestinian, I would do the same thing Palestinians do. These are people who became prime minister. They say the head, there's a great documentary everyone should watch. Everybody.

It's called Gatekeepers. It's Israeli. And there's a there's a great documentary everyone should watch everybody it's called gatekeepers it's israeli and there's english subtitles and all it does is interviews the heads of shin bet which is like a the biggest security agency over decades all of their heads minus one or something and they all what they say these like hardcore people that like their living was torturing people for information and they're saying there's no military solution to this ever. And what's going to happen is we're going to destroy our country. We're going to destroy any hope of democracy. And it's going to be like a far you know, we have to choose this or we're going to lose Israel. We have to choose a negotiated settlement or we lose everything.

And then when you repeat those kind of things in the U.S., you're anti-Semitic. You're anti-Semitic. Yeah. And I think another part that I've only like sort of recently started seeing more and more like, I think there's been, as this whole, you know, this conflict unfolded, there are a lot of people like, well, you got to go back to this. You got to go back to here. You got to go back to the UN or you got to go back to the fact that Europeans and the United States didn't know what to do with these Jewish people and probably didn't want to repatriate a lot of these people for, you know, as we've learned from past guests, like the amount of businesses that were just absorbed by people when Jewish people were fleeing Western Europe during World War Two and things like that. But another point that I think isn't discussed enough, but we would talk about on the show,

especially at the time when the U.S. embassy was moved to Jerusalem and like Mike Pompeo was like so giddy about this that then there are a few people were like, there's actually if you go further back, there is this relationship between like, well, more specifically in the United States, like these Christian evangelicals in the United States, in the U S specifically, but obviously this is a larger thing that goes back centuries. But the idea of how the support is always intertwined with the idea of the end times coming. And it's when people are always like, well, why would they let this happen? Or why are they looking the other way? And a lot of people were saying like all the time, you'd see people who are experts in this field or come from these communities say, All the time you'd see people who are experts in this field or come from these communities say, you guys don't understand. Like this, like Israel becoming a country is a lot of people see that as a prophecy fulfilled on the way to bring back like the, you know, the return of Christ. But this goes back centuries. And I know that you, I've seen you post like things that are sort of in this realm too. seen you post like things that are sort of uh in this realm too but is like i mean how much how much awareness do you think like in general there is around that because i think a lot of

people look at it as like obviously the united states is providing the munitions to the israeli government but there's also like these there's these underpinnings of this theocratic just hardliner stuff about being like yeah the rapture, this has like a dual purpose. Yeah, there's so many interests here. There's like weapons manufacturers who love the existence of Gaza, you know, because they can play and research new weapons and have like a real life battlefield, which is what they're trying to build in Cop City.

You know what I mean? Like this kind of like practice arena. And except in Israel, that practice arena is like actual human beings. There's this guy who's a really good historian. I wish he had more followers, but he really touches on this really well. Uh, he's on Instagram as a M O Y a L a Moyal R E Moyal. And he does a really good video, really going long form, breaking down the Zionism before Jews spoke about it. And there is like a link, a direct link to right-wing Christians, evangelical kind of folks, and in the UK.

And he makes the case like, you know, the UK decided to offer us a homeland at the expense of Palestinians. And the question is like, why? Like the UK at that time, and even a lot of time today is one of the most anti-Semitic countries, the most casual anti-Semitism in the world? And why would they just hand over this valuable piece of strategic land to just a bunch of refugees from Europe? And the answer is that there are very powerful people who have this interest of end times and they are giddy to the other day i was listening to radio in new york city there was something it's a it's a signal that's taken from another town because when they do the weather it's all off i don't know where but it's called

the bridge and i think there's a podcast the bridge christian radio or something like that they were giddy they are if you turn any evangelical Christian radio on right now, they are so happy. And basically their plan is coming together. And that is death and destruction for people who are not Christian and Jews dying and people converting and Jesus coming back. And there is a very much straight line. Zionism spiritually means a lot of things like we at every prayer at every dinner we talk about or in holidays we talk about going back to to israel and a lot of people read that in many different ways like i'm from uzbekistan as a jew there in this ancient society like we

when we said we were called israel so our actual we weren't called buharians we were called buharians because a white man found the first of us in a town called buhara and decided this is a buharian and now forever we're called buharians because of this white traveler but we were always called israel we were called israel so when we said israel we meant us where we are where we're home and uh you know there is a lot of tradition about that. I could go into a whole other show. But the spiritual meaning has many. This is why a lot of Jews are so, even human rights-carrying Jews are so triggered with even the term anti-Zionism and all these things.

It's just wound up in so much of our, even that wedding song we were singing on the bus protesting israel we're singing on the bus it has a reference to israel in the song you know so there's a lot of contradictions right right because i i think a lot of people also underrate like just how you know there's like a group called christians unified for israel that has like a lot of sway especially within the Republican Party. People talk about AIPAC all the time, but actually the biggest funders are Christian Zionists as well. Yeah. And I think that's, and a lot of people were like, well, I don't know, like, you know, I think it really became clear, especially right after the embassy was moved and Donald Trump at a rally was like, yeah, he's like, you'd think the like people would be excited about it. He's

like the evangelicals, they're actually more excited than the Jewish people about this. Oh, yeah. He's always lambasting us. He's always saying we're not returning the favor. Right. Yeah. And he's saying the Christians, I and this are the ones who are grateful. Right.

And now we're like, and now to a certain point, I'm like, oh, okay, well, I'm glad Pompeo and Pence obviously aren't part of the mechanical, like the mechanical, the machinery of the government, but we still, it's still a huge force to be reckoned with. I know Joe Biden, like one of his like sort of community outreach people he had during the transition comes from this like evangelical background. Yeah. So like you see that like, there's still, there's like a consistency to all this. And now like as I see and watch what the president is doing now, I'm yeah. Like, I mean, I'm he's he's pretty consistently been saying like, yeah, no, it's like no matter what this is, this is like we are going to stand with Israel. But I'm always curious to see, like, especially when you see people in the streets, like saying this is not what we want, not in our name, or we cannot repeat the mistakes that we did. Like in 9-11 with immediately just jumping to conclusions and like unleashing just unrestrained wrath. Like how he like how even this administration is looking at it and like what their calculus is. You know what I mean? Because I'm like, y''all this is a lot of people that voted for you there's a lot of people that you gave them

the binary of like well you know it's the lesser of two evils or like i'll hold my nose but now with increased uh resistance to what is happening uh i'm i'm just like really that's also just i i see how further things can unravel even domestically yeah yeah i mean it's it's like uncharted territory with biden it seems like he could he could pass something and it's gonna create a climate corps of workers and it's gonna be like this amazing thing that we never thought any president would do and then on this side he took forever even just to mention palestinians and lied about like the beheaded baby uh story and other things yeah i really don't know like it's just like it's so uncharted to me what to expect but it's like anything is up from this because it's so dire yeah but i am i am moved though i am moved because

if you do see people they are taking stands uh during when we did the white house thing with if not now we we sealed every if not now people sealed every entrance and exit there's so many of them more than a dozen and secret service and everyone came to arrest them. And during that moment, inside the White House, there were people who signed an internal letter who agree with us. While we're screaming on the streets, Joe Biden's opening up his email and his aide is reading a letter from his own staff

protesting his position. Same thing with staffers in Congress have risen up hundreds and have written internal letters and and stuff and people are resigning all over the country from their companies from agencies and also getting fired there's a young woman who got fired from caa yeah recently for for her stance yeah yeah and i think what they i think that they that they posted something innocuous. It's like, we're starting to see who supports genocide. Yeah.

And I think that's... And we've been saying this for the last few weeks. The landscape has become so hostile towards any sort of utterance of a resolution. If it's not a full-throated support of like, yeah, they have the right to defend themselves no matter what. if that's not the take, like then you see a lot. What's interesting is when they, when they do speak like that, uh, especially off the cuff, when they say like, we must do what's necessary because you know, whatever. And if it's innocent

people, it's innocent people, but we have to get blah, blah, blah. And that's, that's what they chose, they say. So like Israelis are saying, the Israeli military hawks are saying, they chose Hamas, even though that election was like almost two decades ago, but like that they chose Hamas and therefore they deserve it. But that's also what Hamas said when they went into those settlements, those towns, this is not defense of them, but those towns where they were invading were, quote, invading but also invading. Those were the forms. So Gaza, the existence of Gaza is ethnic cleansing. So these Palestinians used to live all across Palestine, Israel,

and now they're pushed in there and remove the right to vote. So that's literally the existence of Gaza itself is already ethnic cleansing. So there's really no debate. So they actually, Hamas says the same thing, and Al-Qaeda said the same thing when they did the towers. They said that we voted for Bush and others who are bombing Arabs and the thing. And Al-Qaeda are awful evil, of course. Do we have to say that? Is that a hot take? But they Arabs and the thing. And Al-Qaeda are awful evil, of course. Do we have to say that?

Is that a hot take? Right, right. But they said the same thing. So I'm wondering, like, why are all these right-wingers are saying the same thing and how they're all benefiting from each other? They're literally feeding each other

and we're all on the sidelines, like, oh my God, and having to choose a side between all of them, to your point? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I still feel like a lot of people don't understand like some of the things that you've made reference to like the

calorie limits the electricity limits the shutting off of fresh water and like the people of gaza can't just leave like that that's yes that's the thing that i like people who don't follow the story like well why don't they just leave then and it's like out of which exit which one which exit are you suggesting they're not allowed to leave they bombed right the exit after this and even before like they're not allowed to leave for like cancer health care, like for, you know, they're not allowed to leave. And like that, it is the definition of an open air prison. But, you know, and just a Muslim person I know recently said to me that like when we get these like mainstream communications from organizations like We Stand With Israel Communications, from organizations like We Stand With Israel,

communications as Israel is just indiscriminately bombing innocent people and children in Gaza. They're like, it feels like this won't stop until they put all the brown people in a concentration camp. Like the, like, and I, the U.S. has had a prison for brown people. That is a war crime, like cuba for the past 22 years that like it's this is not imaginary like it's happening right now to them right like and i just ask like people who are having trouble with coming around to the position of peace to try and view things from the perspective of somebody who has lived through the past 22 years in this country and then this is happening.

Let alone the people who have lived in an open-air prison in an apartheid state for over a decade. I don't know how much time we have, but there is something that would be useful to help decode. And one of that is a lot of this is, at least in the Jewish community and people who want to stand with us, are these triggers. And one of them is there's all these interpretations. When someone goes to a rally and someone screams from the river to the sea, a lot of people get triggered. And really, you should follow up and ask what that means. And usually the answer is everyone should have a vote. Like it's really, even the one that they try to make into a monster BDS into this evil super whatever left kind of thing. BDS, which is boycott divest campaign, which is the single most

unified thing that palestinian civil society demands this is when when you say what should we do for palestine it shouldn't be what americans are saying or jews are saying it should be what palestinians are saying and palestinians are saying boycott divest from from until we all have one person one vote which is just like the most basic line kind of human rights thing it's not it's not radical at all it's not scary at all what is scary to people is and it's understandable too it's not sometimes like it's either you want to choose villains or whatever but i can't look at my uncle who's great on everything and problematic on israel and say he's a monster but he's confused and he's afraid that

there's going to be another time that jews don't have self-determination yeah and you know and there's there's ways to fight for self-determination fight for democracy where you are that's one way there's also models for multinational, multi-ethnic state kind of things that you could do with Israel. There's, you know, it's just like a lot of this is emotional and triggering and actually solvable with conversations. Like I've had those conversations. It's actually fixable. Well, Raf, thank you so much for coming on to talk to us about this. Thank you for all the work that you're putting in and yeah,

we really appreciate it. We'd love to have you back. Thank you all back on. And thank you for the cherry inch. I love your beginnings of all your shows. It just, they always make me happy. The shouting,

the corny morning zoo vibe. I love it so much. And this is the first time I like laugh like this and smiled in a while. So thank you. Well, thank you. Thanks, man. Well, thank you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me at Rafael Shimonov on Twitter.

I'm at Rasternoon on Instagram. And you should definitely, if you're Jewish out there, sign up for either If Not Now, if that's your vibe, or Jewish Voice for Peace. Check them both out. And if you're not, all the fights are connected. Find your local grassroots. Find your local mutual aid group. It's important.

You're going to need these connections when things get worse. And things are going to get better, but they're going to get worse first. And thanks, everyone. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. There's this thing that I have pinned to my top tweet. So if you go to Twitter and you find me, there's this Morgan, who's one of my friends who I was arrested with in New York. And it was one of the, it went wild. It got like 11 million views like right away because people are so hungry to see people just speaking truth. And it was him in a crowd in front of like the,

in the park in front of Chuck Schumer's house, like stating the case and revving up the audience and revving up the, the activists and also distracting the police from our other action that was going in front of his house with his beautiful speech. And you have to watch it. You have to see the energy that, and the hurt that he's feeling. And also, it's hard to speak.

You don't want to make it sound like it's about us because it's not about us. We're part of this, but it's about Palestinians. And we should be talking. We should be lifting up Palestinians as much as we can to talk on this everywhere. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, at Miles of Gray

and all the at places, basketball podcast, Miles and Jack, I'm at Boosties, 90 Day Fiance podcast, 420 Day Fiance. Let's see, a tweet I like is from Rob at, okay, but still tweeted, this is from like earlier in the year.

Tweeted female therapist. Your friend with a fat, ugly baby will have to accept that your truth is your truth. Male therapist. Yeah. Sounds like the medication isn't working at all. But to go back to something you said, flips notes last time. Qdoba is mid. I want to challenge you said, flips notes, last time, Qdoba is mid. I want to challenge you on that.

That's pretty good. Tweet I've been enjoying, Dylan Galula tweeted, at some point during Planet Earth, David Attenborough should assure you that you won't be this high forever. That would be helpful. And I don't hate you. I was hoping

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