The Daily Zeitgeist - Pelatonement, The Biggest Flop Ever Is NOW IN THEATERS! 12.10.19

Episode Date: December 10, 2019

In episode 532, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Bechdel Cast co-host Caitlin Durante to discuss updates in the Peloton ad saga, the impeachment trial being a mess, William Barr undermining his own investigative report, some art drama at Art Basel in Miami, the passing of Caroll Spinney aka Big Bird, Golden Globe nominations, and more!FOOTNOTES: The "Peloton Husband" is making the best of that terrible ad Ryan Reynolds Comes Up With The “Peloton Girl’ Aftermath For His Gin Brand – UPDATE: “Peloton Girl” Speaks Out Lawyer for Democrats calls President Trump 'a clear and present danger' as he argues case for removal READ: Barr Undermines His Own DOJ IG’s Report On Trump-Russia FBI Probe Watchdog report finds FBI not motivated by political bias in Trump probe Banana Splits: Spoiled by Its Own Success, the $120,000 Fruit Is Gone A Boston Artist Was Arrested for Writing “Epstein Didn’t Kill Himself” on the Art Basel Banana Wall Caroll Spinney, Better Known as Big Bird, Has Died Golden Globes Nominations: ‘Marriage Story’, Netflix, ‘Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’ Lead Way In Film – Full List Of Nominations WATCH: DJ Krush - Drum Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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my name is Jack O'Brien aka Jack O'Brien Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien, Jack O'Brien, host of TDZ. With hot takes and hands that shake and an ass you just can't see. Oh, Jack O'Brien, Jack O'Brien, loves that Mountain Dew. Prayers for impeachment of that unpresidential fool. Courtesy of Pod Moran, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Do you smoke weed like Miles watching Love? Hope to feel something in 90 days.

I really don't think It's strong enough No Do you smoke weed Like Miles watching Love? Okay Thank you to Taylor Fleming For that Cher

Inspired aka Watching Love The Netflix series? Yeah That too Love Big Paul Rust fan

So Had to tune in for that. More of my 90 day. But, you know, it's about love just generally. But, yeah. Shout out to, what did the Judd episode executive produce that? Yeah, yeah. And then people were like, how many people color this?

Right. Yeah, I remember that was somebody after about five episodes was like, wait. Wait a second. This is interesting because if I recall correctly, it was Believed by Cher, Not the Top Song in 1999. Because it just reminds me of an episode we did with our

guest today talking about the year 1999. Oh, hell yeah. Anyway, it was a full circle, baby. It is full circle. Well, that guest that you're speaking of, Miles, who did an episode about the year 1999, is none other than the hilarious and talented comedian and podcast host and advanced degree having film...

Come on, you're doing so good. Intellectual. Yes. Oh, yeah. She is Latin Dancer UTI. She is Caitlin Durante. Hi. What's up?

Oh, I've got a couple. What do you got today? Uh-oh. You got a couple for us? Some more anagrams? Oh, yeah. Latin Dancer UTI is the anagram for Caitlin Durante. As is a identical runt and a deliriant cunt.

Deliriant cunt and identical runt. Hell yeah. And those are courtesy of Bob Dad and his son, Charlie. Wow. Wait, really? Bob Dad and Charlie? Shout out to Bob Dad. Charlie came up with the deliriant cunt one.

Wow. Is that really true? Okay. That's just his Twitter handle? Okay. Oh, Bob Dad. Charlie came up with the delirium cunt one. Wow. Is that really true? That's just his Twitter handle. Oh, Bob Dad and Charlie? I don't think they're on Twitter, but he emailed me and he was like, I want you to know about these. Is his email

handle Bob Dad and his son Charlie? You know what? I don't know. Bob Dad Goldthwait. I don't think so. You can attribute these two. I emailed him back and his son, Charlie? You know what? I don't know. Bob dad, Goldthwait. He just said, just you. Yeah. I was like, well,

I emailed him back and I said, who was your Twitter handle? Twiddle. Twiddle handle. Someone turned a little full. You old. What's your Twitter handle? I said,

what's your Twitter handle? And he's like, I don't use Twitter that much, but if you just credit Bob dad and Charlie, that'll be great. Shout out to Bob, Dad, and Charlie. It'd be like a rock duo. Oh, yeah, animated series. Is that like a new Lisa Hanawalt show?

The woman who did BoJack? Yeah. All right, Caitlin, we're going to get to know you even better than we already do in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the continued fallout from the bombshell Peloton ad. Peloton. Peloton ad. Yeah.

You noticed that I got nervous there, that I was pronouncing it incorrectly? Well, I don't know how. Peloton. No, Peloton. Well, it's Peloton. Peloton. And I was just fucking with you more. Ah, I appreciate it.

You're welcome. Well, yeah, there's just continued fallout from that. I love that. I don't know how we're getting multiple weeks worth of discussion out of one stupid commercial. multiple weeks worth of discussion out of one stupid commercial. So either Peloton has a really bad marketing department and a really bad legal department also, or they are just like galaxy mind on this shit, and they're doing this all for the added negative attention

of making their product unbuyable as a Christmas gift. They fucked up major considering they lost one and a half billion dollars in valuation. No, but see, long term, they're playing 9D chess, man. That's the thing you don't understand about 9D chess is it's like OxyMandius. You are just, like, at first it's not clear, but then, like, decades on. Did you say OxyMandius? Like the Purdue Pharma version of Ozymandias? Yeah.

Oxymandias. Dad brain. Yo, Oxymandias. Oxymandias. Wow. My dad calls Brad Pitt Brad Pitt. Adding S's is very common. Yeah.

I call Twitter Twiddle, so I get it. Twiddle board. Once I start adding S's, that's when i'm really in trouble when you become daddy we're gonna check in with the impeachment trial girl i'm talking about impeaching this creep the ig report is out uh a banana was sold uh for 120 000 because it was duct taped to a wall. It had a full artistic evolution that could only be in 2019. We're going to say RIP to Carol Spinney, aka

Big Bird. We're going to talk about the Golden Globe Noms. Globe Noms, guys. Globe Noms. Globe Noms season. We're going to talk about all that and plenty more. First, Caitlin, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I searched for red herring movie examples or examples of red herrings in movies.

Great. Because I've been developing a screenwriting class. Again, I hate to bring it up, but I do have a master's degree in screenwriting from Boston University. You hate it from BU. I simply, from BU. And the mascot there is? Is a terrier, a Boston terrier. The mascot is a terrier for BU?

Yeah, we're the terriers. How cute. It's cute. Anyway, so I have this screenwriting class that I am like developing curriculum for. And so I was like, wait a minute, I need to teach about red herrings, obviously. Right. So I was looking for examples. What's a good one?

Yeah. The first Harry Potter movie, Snape, Professor Snape is a red herring. Right. Because you think he's going to be bad. That guy's a fish? Yeah, he's a fish. Exactly. See, this is why I don't watch this stuff, man.

What's next? I thought herrings were birds. Oh, a heron. It sounds like it should be a bird, not a fish. Oh, heron. A heron. Red heron. You do not want to fuck with the red heron.

Yeah, some people back in the day used to call heroin to a heron. What is something you think is underrated? Oh, I just want to say, I want to commend you for being a person who teaches a screenwriting class and doesn't just Xerox passages out of existing books and then says, I'm teaching

a class. Oh, gee. I would never. Man, I've seen some shit like that where I'm like, you're just, you act like we haven't read a story by Robert McKee and you're extracting that into a printout and then being like, let's talk about this part. I'm like, are you teaching Robert McKee or do you know something? So I like that you are actually doing research.

Oh, thank you so much. That's the mark of a true educator. Someone with a master's degree that was not purchased online. That's right. Verified. And if you're interested in taking my screenwriting classes out there, listeners, I have one new sections starting in January. So go to my website, CaitlinDurante.com for more info. Yeah, support.

Is answering the question, what is Rosebud considered a red Heron? Or is that? That's almost more of a MacGuffin, I think. A MacGuffin. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Yeah.

I don't know what the difference between those are. Well, you better take my class and find out. I thought MacGuffin was just the proper name for- A red herring? Oh, no. Two different things. It was like, how McGruff is a proper name for a crime dog. Sure.

A MacGuffin was the proper name for a red herring. The famous storytelling device, a crime dog. Right. Yeah. You've got to watch out for those. Crime dog millionaire. What is something you think is underrated? Women having short hair. Yeah.

I got a very short haircut probably like six months ago, and I'm loving it. And I think every person should do it. To you, okay, let's speak directly to someone who might be on the fence, who's always fancied a short crop, if you were. Sure. What would you say, come on over to this side? The water's warm. Well, the maintenance is far easier. I used to spend a lot of time every day drying my hair and then straightening it with a flat iron and doing all this stuff.

And then I hardly do anything anymore. And now you look like you have a stylist. You didn't do anything with your hair right now. I put a little bit of product in it, but that's about it. Sometimes I have to wet it down if I wake up and it's all sticking up. But I wouldn't pay to know that feeling of her sticking up on my head. But like, I think like for women,

especially there's this idea that like, oh, I won't like feel or look feminine enough if I have short hair. And then there's also this idea of like potentially short hair could be like maybe a marker for your sexuality kind of thing. Sure. But you know, I'm a,

I guess a straight lady who knows anymore, but like, I don't know i just it's so easy i i got the haircut to um because i went on a trip to europe sorry i did not go to florence that's fine right that's fine pete buddha judge did well then we better vote for him tweets that i was roasted in what i don't know what you're talking about. Ah, sometimes it's just be your own, Jack. You might know about that. But as I was like, I just need like something easy to travel with. And I don't want to like pack a bunch of like, you know, devices.

I get that, yeah. Hair dryers and stuff like that. What was an unexpected benefit of your hair that you did not even see happen? And then it occurred and you're like, you what wow i really like this now i mean i never like when i go out like when i run or like go like play soccer and stuff i'm like oh i don't have to like worry about like it coming loose from my ponytail i just it's running around it's easy it's out there scoring hat tricks like it's nothing every day yeah. Yeah. On her level. Stop. How did you, like, because you really pull it off well.

Thank you. Was there, like, a leap just having spoken with women who've considered the short haircut? They're like, ah, but could I pull it off? Could I not pull it off? Like, you know. I think everyone can pull it off. It's just a matter of, like of picking the style that suits you best. Because there's a few different aesthetics. There's different styles that you can play with.

And I think it might be some trial and error, which the trial portion of it is tricky. Because you're like, oh, I've got to wait until this grows out or whatever. Right, right. But I don't know. It's so easy and I love it and I like originally

I considered I was like oh I'll just get a cut for this trip and then I'll let it grow back but I'm like screw it I'm gonna keep it

for a while what is something you think is overrated okay so this is based on the new trailer that just dropped for Ghostbusters

Afterlife okay I just saw the cover the poster it looked like a nickelback album cover i didn't even see that but uh i i hesitate to say this because i think i'm gonna get dragged but i think christy yeah i think ghostbusters as a franchise is overrated wow i know go off have you seen ghostbusters 2 bobby brown is on the soundtrack come on uh yeah wait what's in the new trailer i haven't even i saw that i saw that the thumbnail for a trailer That's why I said it looked like a Nickelback album cover. Is it the same cast? What's going on? It doesn't look like it.

It is one of the kids from Stranger Things. Forget which one. Forget his name. Oh, Finn Wolfhard? Finn Wolfhard. Oh, from Vancouver, British Columbia, gang, gang. Finn Wolfhard 3, Wolf harder. Wolf the line.

Wolf the line. He and his family moved to this like abandoned or like this old house. And it turns out that. There's a ghost in it? There's a ghost in it? I wish that had been the pitch. It turns out there's a ghost in it. There's a ghost in it? Yeah.

I mean, you're not far off. Okay, yeah. They find an old ghost trap and then Paul Rudd is like, wow, that's a ghost trap. Oh, Paul Rudd too? Paul Rudd's in it. And there's allusions

to the movies from the 80s, but they're like, there hasn't been a ghost around here in 30 years. Yes. But suddenly the ghosts are coming back, so now they need Ghostbusters again. Right. But these ghosts, they're not coming from New York, they're coming from Oklahoma

and they use some of the stuff that's actually happening in Oklahoma. Wow. I don't know if it's specifically set in Oklahoma. No, the earthquakes that are in a quick- Oh, the fracking one? Yeah, the fracking-based earthquakes. Yeah, there's like all all of a sudden mysterious earthquakes happening and but it's not because we're destroying

the environment it's because but what about what about the trailer to you said okay i think i'm starting to see past all this and go this this is overrated well the trailer is more just a catalyst for me to remember that this franchise exists i've long thought right okay got it that ghostbusters is a bit overrated i don't know i know they're so beloved and i don't hate them like i i own ghostbusters one and two on dvd how dare you i know okay like you you make sense as a human being you own both ghostbusters right yeah um. Yeah. But I just, I think they are very much of their time in terms of just like being these, it's like all these, first of all, like the EPA is like the villain

in the film. They're like, fuck the EPA. Biggest asshole in movie history. They're like, yeah, we just love private whatever. I don't even know. Yeah, it's almost like a movie that advocates for the privatization of firemen. Right.

Let's get, yeah, like, let's turn to the private sector. Let's leave our jobs at universities, educate. But then, like, and then also, like, Bill Murray's character, as he often is, is a creep. Dr. Renkman? Yes. Dr. Renkman, go? Yes, I think go. I would say, yeah, Ghostbusters 2, underrated.

Ghostbusters 1, overrated. Peter McNichol. In comparison with one another. Sure. Peter McNichol as Dr. Janusz Pocha in Ghostbusters 2 is one of my favorite problematic foreign characters I've ever seen in my life. He is Viggo. He's Viggo. Yes, but why are you Kame?

And the baby is Woo. I can say almost all of his lines, I thought. And then when he was on Ally McBeal, I was like, it's the dude from Ghostbusters. Right. It's what, so both Ghostbusters 2 and this Paul Rudd-led newest sequel have the same issue that they, so Ghostbusters 2 opens with two of the busters working children's birthday parties. Oh, that's right. A couple years after they saved the world from the first evidence of supernatural.

And Egon could have melted that kid's face with that proton pack. I don't know what he was doing at a kid's party without that equipment. But this movie also, like, Paul Rudd has to show them news clips of the original Ghostbusters, and they're like, what's this, Grandpa? Which, again, this is proof of the afterlife on camera. This would be the only thing anybody talked about for the next 200 years. If there are ghostbusters.

So you're saying it's ridiculous that they've fallen from grace? Yeah, that they're just like, ah, screw those guys. I reject the premise outright. Well, also, too, if you think about it, if there are ghosts and we accept that, it's only these group of motherfuckers that can handle it? I feel like at that point we would be exporting this technology. Or there would be ghostbusters in every country like everybody like like law enforcement everybody has their own style like how do mexican ghostbusters work right how does a

south african ghostbuster work but that's the thing they're in the private sector and they won't see this is what i'm talking about and this and we're talking about ghost proliferation and then of course the the the all-female reboot from 2016 that's it like i mean i appreciate that movie but it also i mean just here's what i'll say okay we did uh episodes on the bechtel cast they are patreon episodes so you gotta subscribe to the patreon support but uh we did the matreon exactly um we did uh, it was I think January of last year. It was like one or two years ago, but we did Ghost January. So we did the first Ghostbusters movie from 84.

The spookiest month of all. Exactly. Ghost January. Ghost January. All those dead resolutions. So we did the 84 Ghostbusters, and then the other episode of that month, we did the 84 Ghostbusters and then the other episode of that month, we did the 2016 Ghostbusters. So check it out for my full-

Full, yeah, take. Take, yeah. Okay. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people- Bottom line, no one in here is afraid of no ghosts. Right. I just wanted to say that.

Right, right, right, right, right. Ain't no mark-ass Ghostbusters. The myth is that Okay, Uncle Caitlin Atheist Uncle Caitlin Here coming at ya With some anti-Christmas Rhetoric

You heard my AK, right? Yes, I did So I am like, basically Kris Kringle I know, so Apologies in advance The color of his sweat isn't a medical condition. It's green and red for the holidays. For the holidays, yes.

My myth just is that Christmas traditions were not invented by Christians. Oh, God. What? Yes, here's the truth. Like what? Christmas trees. That was a pagan winter solstice tradition that Christians originally condemned for a long time and then repurposed for themselves.

Right. Holly, mistletoe, gift giving, feasting. These are all pagan traditions. Fisting. Oh, wow. annual christmas fisting wait i'm sorry what no i said i deliberately misinterpreted her feasting and i was too busy to besmirch winter solstice um yeah i mean it kind of makes sense when you think of it like so the winter solstice is like the point at which, I think Dan Harmon called it, the point at which Earth is trying to kill you the hardest.

And so it's a celebration. It's our time to go indoors and celebrate our ability to withstand. Fuck you, Earth. Yeah, basically. And then pollute the fuck out of it. And bring a tree indoors and be like, fuck the outdoors, man. Got my tree, Earth. Yeah, basically. And then pollute the fuck out of it. Yeah, and like bring a tree indoors and be like fuck the outdoors, man. Got my tree in here. Yeah.

Do something, God. It's like the peak of unnaturalism. It's like, yeah, we don't need the outdoors. Fuck Mother Nature. What about Santa, right, is from the Bible, if I recall correctly. Santa is the one exception.

Santa is a biblical figure. But they see what they did. They broke it up into three people. The wise men, I believe, are Santa. Right. That's what I said in class. Oh, that's interesting. And I got an A.

Yeah. Damn. That's an interesting thesis, Miles. My thesis, yes, Professor, the three wise men are Santa. Right. And that's it. Signed Miles Gray. Do I have my degree now?

Three wise men are Santa. Right. And that's it. Signed, Miles Grades. Do I have my degree now? I think if you, the three wise men could anagram to Santa and then something else, like other stuff. I'll figure it out. Santa Claus.

There's no A, though, in three wise men. Man. Oh, three wise man. Oh, shit. Fuck. The wise man. All right, forget it. All right, maybe Santa was made up by corporations for us to buy stuff. Although, maybe Santa Claus with a W.

Ooh. Anyways, guys, we're going to figure this out. We're also going to talk more gift giving. But first, Caitlin, I'm going to ask you to just sit tight for a moment because I have to talk to my good friend, Miles Gray, over there. Miles, it's Jack, your friend from work and colleague,

coworker. Yep. Anyways, I want to tell you about HelloFresh. Hey, speaking of fresh, let's keep it profesh for HelloFresh. Um,

I already know about HelloFresh. Did you know that it's America's number one meal kit? No, actually I didn't. It is. Oh, well, I look,

that makes sense. I, the thing about, the thing about HelloF fresh for me is whether you're like super skilled or just a beginner the recipes are really easy to use obviously i'm super skilled i'm nearly a michelin starred chef in north hollywood that's true that's what i always say to everybody i meet the thing with me with hello fresh i just like that it's flexible with a lot of meal kits you never know know how much, how big your appetite is. So sometimes you may get a recipe that you need a little bit more. So with HelloFresh, you can add extra meals to your weekly order, or you can even have little add-ons to make it a little more lit, like some garlic bread or some cookies. You can do

a little dessert. And also it's flexible in the sense that if you ever need to change your delivery day like maybe one day said oh you know what i'm gonna be eating i'm going out this weekend or something i don't want my i don't want to waste the food you can shift the days you can shift the food preferences you can even skip a week if you know you are going to be wined and dined by hollywood's elite i mean today's episode we're talking about golden globe noms but right, we're talking about Golden Globe Noms, but right now we're talking about Golden Nom Noms. Oh, boy. Call the police. I also want to talk about the fact that they,

I mean, this is a basic value proposition of HelloFresh, is you get to say goodbye to the endless grocery store trips and takeout food and get to actually do something with your hands. I am not a Michelin star chef. I am a chain restaurant level chef. Okay, line cook. Yeah, line cook. That still takes skill.

But HelloFresh has more five-star recipes than any other meal kit. So you know you'll get something delicious that your family will enjoy, that you will enjoy. What's a recipe you like? Say it on three. Really? We got to make sure we're on the same page okay one two three chicken cheddar fajitas yeah i was calling it something different but it's that one that has that you melt the cheese on the tortilla yes and then put that on and then you put a little uh pepper on top yes

yep a little chili yeah now back when i growing up, we used to do something called cheese flats. They were just little tortillas with cheese on them in the oven. But this is a more advanced version of that. Wait. Cheese flats would just be a tortilla with cheese on it? Yeah. With cheese on it. Time for cheese flats.

Yeah. And that was like a part of any balanced meal. The Wheeling West Virginia diet. That's where they were invented, actually. We actually had a family meeting about what we were going to name that meal. Wow. I suggested cheese eyeballs, but my sister beat me with cheese flats, and I'll never forgive her.

Very literal. Respect to her vocabulary, too, unless she was much older at the time. She was 23. She was in graduate school. And she never let me forget it. Just rubbed it in my face. Anyways, you guys, check out HelloFresh. It's a great service.

And you can get nine free meals with HelloFresh by going to hellofresh.com slash TDZ9. And using code TDZ9, as in the Daily Zeitgeist. And nine free meals. Yeah. Oh, wait. They get nine free meals? I know. This seems like it might be a typo, but until they tell us that it's a typo, we're going

to tell our listeners that you get nine free meals with HelloFresh by going to HelloFresh.com slash TDZ9 and using code TDZ9. All right. As in nine free meals. Yes. And now let's transport ourselves back to this daily Zeitgeist Studios. Where you are no longer a world-class show. Right.

You are just Jack O'Brien. You are no longer hearing those fresh and delicious sounding sound effects that Super Producer Dan was doing. All right. Enough of all of that business. Let's talk... The business of food. The business of food. I do want to talk about one gift, the hottest gift of the season for Problematic Bays. Peloton has, yeah, they're having a bit of an issue right now. So we talked about the ad, how it's like sort of this uncannily ill, uh, executed fever dream. Yeah. No,

what's up and down the best black mirror episodes since season two, who is the audience? Who is the perspective? Right. Perspective. There's so many going on. Have you guys done the Peloton ad episode of Bechdel cast? I would love to see that.

I don't know what Peloton is. I'm looking it up right now. Oh, wait. Hold on. Well, please hold for one second. You're a co-host of the Bechdelcast just yesterday. It's time for you to catch up. We're going to pause for a moment

while Caitlin watches the Peloton ad. And we're back. So, yeah. Okay, I've seen it. Straight into your veins. Some of the critiques, Miles, you were pointing out that some people think she may be a prisoner. A prisoner. We don't know if he's like, yeah, get on that bike and then give me a vlogging update book

report at the end so we can check on your physical appearance or something. Also, we don't know, again, it's like we don't know who this ad is for or who benefits from it. The passive buyer of the gift for another. I think it's trying to convince husbands that it's okay to buy it for your wife and that she's going to be grateful to you and report back to you. grateful to you and report back to you hey right because the implication of like here i'm buying you this exercise machine is like for you to a subtle way to be like exercise yeah maybe i don't like the way you look and maybe you should x yeah that's like the implication of the ad but then she's also like hooray for this opportunity but then there there's moments where her face is pained and she's like, here we go again. Yeah, she's so nervous about the idea of Peloton

in a way that makes Peloton seem more loaded almost. And then just to your point, Caitlin, the implication is, no, it's none of that, I don't like the way you look. It's that I think your life needs more meaning. It seems to be like You seem to be just going through the motions here. Why don't you hop on this

Peloton and Let a woman with an 8-pack scream at you through an iPad and now you have reached a higher level of enlightenment. So this has been a story since they dropped this viral marketing campaign. Around Thanksgiving, people were just,

there's just like something ineffably fucked up about the whole world in which the ad takes place. I feel like all the takes at the beginning of last week were like, did y'all see that fucking Peloton ad? And then people were like, like hold on let's break this down it was like around tuesday wednesday then it's like what the fuck peloton yeah then slowly their money started losing money yeah they lost a billion dollars in market capitalization or market value because uh well it was a couple things one this was part of their campaign to like bring peloton to the masses and so they were lowering their price while also like you know breaking out this brilliant

marketing strategy and people were like oh that's this is not going to be good for you and so they lost over a billion dollars and now there is some continued fallout. It's like the third wave of fallout. Third wave Peloton ad. Activism. Activism. So the wife from the ad, our protagonist. His wife. Exactly. She is appearing in a new gin ad.

Aviation gin. Aviation gin from Ryan Reynolds. Uh, so, you know, the fact that it was tweeted by Ryan Reynolds helped this ad like immediately gain, uh, traction. And then it's just a pretty straightforward ad where she, uh, appears to be somebody who has the worst husband in the world out for drinks with her friends clearly here actually let's take another quick break i'll show caitlin and then we'll come back okay so we're back we're back we've watched the gin ad it's when i watch it again it's a little it's a lot darker actually oh yeah because well she's toasting to new beginnings which and she has like a you

know the thousand yard stare that people have after they come back from war so there is sort of an implication that her marriage has fallen apart her marriage to the guy who gave her a peloton yeah okay right because i guess if I guess if this is the reality, if we're in the same advertising universe, this woman was in a terrible relationship with a potentially abusive partner. Right. Her friends are now all by her side saying, let's drink our...

They're acting very awkward too. Like maybe the situation is so intense, they might not even be equipped to be there for her. Right. So I don't know. It feels the way they're so awkward about it almost makes me think that the reality is much darker than even the one in the peloton ad right and then i'm also like well then what's ryan reynolds doing now with like the like riding this wave of criticism to then be like yeah dude she's a she's a haunted woman also drink this gin right yeah it was like another layer she's being like doubly exploited like yeah get her to be the victim for

my gin commercial yeah the peloton ad the initial peloton ad has become a text that you can then assume everybody understands the implication of basically uh and of course there are weird capitalist uh motives and you know alternate uh ideas beneath the surface but uh even the husband now uh has stepped out and is complaining uh so peloton clearly didn't sign the performers in their original ad to any sort of NDA or non-computer. NDA what? Anything. NBA? No, I don't play basketball.

They're just openly shitting all over the original Peloton ad that was released like a week ago. The guy who played Faceless Husband, Sean Hunter, he is an actor and elementary school teacher in Vancouver. There's a lot of Vancouver energy going on because Ryan Reynolds is also from Vancouver too. This must have been a Canadian production, which is how he probably knew all these actors. Anyway, so in it, he has been

talking about how his life has just basically not been upended, but he thought things were going in a much different direction prior to it. In the beginning, people were so stoked for him to like, oh, my God, you're gonna be part of this huge ad campaign. You made it. He said, quote, My acting coach messaged me after seeing the video and said that I looked great. We shared a positive discussion about my part in the commercial and her advice helped me endeavor of me in my endeavor of becoming a better actor as I hold her opinion highly.

A few of my comments or my friends came in and the overall consensus was that it was awesome. But a few days ago, that all changed. Reviews from my friends stopped as the video went viral. I soon noticed that the commercial had several thousand downvotes as the tweets came out and talk shows weighed in. Quote, absolutely 100% chance that the husband in the peloton ad is abusive end quote quote she would rather be anywhere else in the world than here in her glacial home with the husband she loads end quote i couldn't believe what i was seeing my five seconds of airtime created an array of malicious feedback that is all associated with my face my friend texted me today today declaring that i'm quote a symbol of the patriarchy end quote quote we have the chance to

make hashtag peloton husband a meme as my face continues to be a screenshot online i wonder what repercussions will come back to me i pride myself on being a great teacher and developing actor blah blah blah blah so he was sort of going on with like i honestly didn't say anything i didn't it's like you know i'm fucking this dude. I'm the evil. I'm Peloton husband. Yeah. And then did you see the statement from the child who plays the five-year-old?

What do you think? I believe it too. That's the only other person in the ad, but she has not come out and said anything. Or the instructor on the bike who said her name, which she says my name. She goes, I actually didn't say her name. Yeah. Didn't say her name.

Well, it makes you wonder. Prayers up to Grace in Boston. She looks haunted. That'd be great if that's what the instructor said. I mean, if I had to hazard a guess, it would be that the creative team behind this ad was predominantly men and that they did. I know. And that they didn't really think about what the implications of the ad would be.

Oh, yeah, right. Nor did apparently the people participating in the ad. And a lot of times it's like they need a paycheck. They're struggling actors and they'll get what roles are given to them. Right. But the guy who plays the husband just being like, I can't believe it. It's like, well, did you read the script? Did you see the ad?

Well, I wonder, too, because it's probably a lot harder to glean from the script. Like, you could, in your mind, if you're thinking in terms of how an ad would actually operate, you're like, oh, it's about this woman who gets a bike and she loves her life now. Right. But then when you see how it's edited and like how she's being directed because he was probably only there for those two shots like one when she comes down the stairs and the next one when they're on the couch so i don't know how he saw that not to defend him but i also but from to your point the way it is written is from a dude who thinks the the way to solve your issue if you're unhappy with how your wife looks is to get her an exercise bike right

and there's no examination of what that means to how you look at a relationship how you view someone's agency to be what in whatever physical shape they want to be yeah it's sort of like yeah get that and then she's gonna love it and then boom you're you're like a winner right right it's so unclear because even their point of view is so murky right the commercials well they've written the ad so that she is uh resistant to the idea of peloton to begin with so by implication like you're getting just this idea that he is pushing her towards this she wasn't like i want a peloton yeah please get me a peloton and then he got her a peloton and then she was like, this is the best thing that ever happened to me. It's like, I'm really nervous about this.

What's going to happen to me? She's like, my first ride, I'm so nervous. It's like, you're not about to go skydiving. You're going to pedal a bike a little bit. A stationary bike.

You're free to stop at any time. And I mean, there's also another sort of miscalculation on the part of the men who made this ad is that like I think with other active hobbies that this ad could have worked. But there's something dystopian about a stationary anything like something where you're just like working like a rat at a wheel, like on a wheel, just like working. And there's a person who like says your name and you're being judged. Like there is something inherently. Keep generating credits.

There literally is a Black Mirror episode about this. On the bike generating credits. Isn't also in like Kimmy Schmidt, like the confinement that they're in at the beginning, isn't there some sort of like exercise bike that like, it's a crank. Yeah. It's like a generator.

Oh, right. That's how they powered that up. Right. And they just have to keep going. Yeah. That's actually like one of the darker, like philosophical moments is because she's like,

I just keep pretending like the next crank is the last one. And then I can just go as hard as I possibly can. And that's actually like true of endurance athletes like if you have a worse memory or like if people who have certain like damage to their brain are really good distance runners because they just are purely in the moment and aren't thinking about how much longer this is going to be. Oh, wow. Very deep stuff about how awful exercise is. I honestly feel like we could do a whole episode on this commercial. I think this should be the podcast from now on. Just the Peloton. The Daily Peloton.

Investigative journalism into the reality in which these people live. We're always looking for ways into the zeitgeist, and I think this ad, for for whatever reason has proven to be what so many things because it's the advertising. It's this bike that so many people either swear by with this form of exercise and like it's, it's everything. I mean like in the future,

like hundreds of years from now, I feel like the thing that people will study to understand our culture will probably be advertisements because it's like, yeah, they're like the most money, the most like energy and like, you know, thinking that our society is doing,

going into like, you know, appealing to people and making statements about people. Well, also in a hundred years, I think everyone will have a Peloton because we'll all be living in like underground bunkers because we fucked the environment up so badly that we can't live above ground. So like, yeah.

Don't want your muscles to atrophy. Yeah. You got to get a stationary bike. We'll all be powering the hydrogen generation machine. Caitlin, I'm sorry. I mean, number 2238-CD. What time is your labor shift? Wait, do trees generate hydrogen or oxygen? Oxygen?

That's the good one, right? Yeah, sorry. I get those mixed up a little. Someone doesn't have a master's in treeology. Yeah. All right. In the remaining few minutes doesn't have a master's in triology. Yeah. Teriology. All right. So in the remaining few minutes that we have for our second section, where we usually discuss the hard-hitting stories,

Miles, you are our hard-hitting expert. What do you want to cover? I mean, in terms of impeachment. Girl, I'm talking about impeaching this creep. Thank you. I feel, I don't know. Girl, I'm talking about impeaching this creep. Thank you. I feel, I don't know, right now it's the, yesterday in the Judiciary Committee, they were doing the hearings where the legal counsel to each side from the Intel Committee hearings was basically laying out their case in front of the committee.

And it was just basically on one side, you have the Democrat lawyer basically laying out an actual legal case and arguments as to like, this is what's said. This is why we believe it's an abuse of power. This is why you need to impeach them. And then the Republican lawyer, Castor, that just guy goes up and just like says or reads things as if they're bad, like just the tone. Yeah. So like an innocuous sentence would just sort of but like read with the tone of. an innocuous sentence would just sort of but like read with the tone of but then in june of 2019 the president told zielinski that he wasn't going to allow the aid to flow unless he investigated the bidens now i don't know right you're like you just said the bad part out loud in the form of

like you're questioning it. Right. It was very frustrating and just such. Yeah. And they like. So cynical. They have the same. So they adopting the same sort of outraged tone of like cross examining that Democrats used for people who were actually revealing details. And I get it's theatrical.

who were actually revealing details. Right, and I get it. It's theatrical, the whole thing. Yeah, but they are, like as you pointed out yesterday when we came in, the Republicans were doing the same thing to the Democratic lawyer, like doing an exasperated Southern lawyer who's just outraged at the clear guiltiness and irrationality of the people he's questioning. But his question was, how did you find out that Nunes was making these phone calls?

It's like, who told you that? Why did you decide to do that? Right. But like, what do you mean? The thing that like successfully found your crimes? Because I'm looking at it and I go, wait, what's this DC number? Right. Hold on.

What? Devin Nunez. Yeah, but who told you to do that? Right. Was it you or Adam Schiff? It's like, why does that? I don't know, man. Are you disputing the call or what?

Because I'm just mad that we found out. Right. So it's just a ton of, you know, it goes on. I'm sure there'll be even more nonsense coming out of there, but it's, you know. A lot of gish galloping, a shout out to Andrew. Yeah. But then without any,

without any substance to latch onto, like usually if you're doing that, hitting someone with a bunch of wrong takes, so you like overwhelm them with how they're going to rebut everything. There are things you can catch onto, but this was just sort of like say, he was just saying a bunch of stuff right that i wasn't even sure what the logic he said that he said that the democratic lawyer had donated millions to democrats and he

had to like stop and like one of the democratic uh you know people one of the democratic politicians had to cede time so that he could be like i didn't donate anywhere close to a million dollars. What the fuck are you talking about? And then go through systematically, but by the end of his systematic refutation of something that was shouted at him in 15 seconds in a Southern accent, you're kind of like, all right, nerd, whatever. On to the next thing.

The other thing, too, is that guy Castor, the Republican's lawyer, he just had like the flimsiest defense. Like he really, like when he was talking about, I can rebut all these assertions or like these claims about the president's behavior. The one he's really trying to go for, which is like a total lie, verifiably a fabrication is this defense of Trump of like, why this whole thing isn't bad. He goes, at the time of the July 25th call, senior officials in Kiev did not know that the security assistance was paused. They did not learn it was paused until the pause was reported publicly in the U.S. on August 28th.

And basically saying that his idea is that that matters because if the Ukrainians didn't know, then there's no way there could have been any coercion on the on the side of Trump. However, and then what he says to back this up, he goes, Kurt Volker, who actually testified in front of the Intel committee, said his testimony was, quote, I believe that the Ukrainians became aware of the hold on August 29th. Not before. That is the first date or that's the first time any of them asked me about the hold. But then the next day after Volker said that, one of the officials from the Pentagon completely just blew that narrative up and said that on July 25th, the date of the call,

her staff was informed at the Pentagon on that day that the State Department told the Pentagon that the Ukrainian embassy, the diplomatic body that is in the United States asked them like, what, what's going on? We are aware of this situation. Right. But they are still be like, well, they didn't know. And that's why it can't be abuse of power. Right. Uh, but then we're saying, no, they did know what, what are you saying, sir? Yeah. And then he'll continue to be like, but then on July 25th, the embassy said they were aware of a situation.

Yeah. I rest my case. Right. Right. It's all about impeachment process and the idea of a functioning media, like somebody who's paying attention to all of this and giving you like a summary of what is happening, has all just broken apart because the entire Republican side is just like full of bad faith, like running out the clock and just saying things to have something out there that can be turned into a soundbite on Fox News. And yeah, the thing that you saw, too, is when Goldman, the lawyer for the the democrats was presenting his case it's like oh

there's facts on this side of this argument or this debate right when the republicans go up castor was basically trying to use legalese to like articulate a rebuttal which was just simply nah like but in fancy words there was nothing of substance that actually refuted anything it's just it's a mess look bottom line the president abuses power to coerce a government to launch an illegal investigation that would help him in 2020 he's cheating at the election right yeah doesn't sound like him i don't know yeah exactly and i get it people are so worn down they're like yeah i don't know and there's like kids dying at the border and like we don't give a fuck about the rest of the earth yeah what else is new and that's the problem we're at is because it's just throw it on the fucking pile right of a

bunch of shit that has everybody completely disillusioned and disheartened about this whole situation yeah but i keep thinking back about that uh new yorker article i talk about sometimes this rebecca mead is like a journalist who's from london who became a u.s citizen right before trump became president but then moved back and her partner is somebody who's like an expert on like the rise of nazism and he is he realized like right when the republicans started opposing obamacare and just like their perspective came untethered from reality he He was like, oh, we're headed in a direction where this whole system is completely broken. This is going to be the rise of authoritarianism, essentially.

And you realize that when Obamacare was being approved and it just seems like, yeah, the things that he recognized back then are the things that are now coming to bear. Like Trump is just aware, and like the Republicans who support Trump are just aware. Like, oh, yeah, there's nothing to hold us accountable if we have this Fox News thing.

Like you can impeach us. Yeah, well, because the second it truly does be like, okay, now we have reality, and then we have the thing that helps you rationalize like why you think a certain way. Yeah. Also known as reality. Right.

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Right. Essentially. So he doesn't have to look like someone who's dealing conspiracy theories and abject corruption. Right. And we said, you know, we got trailers, teasers last week saying, hey, you know what? This report is not going to be as sexy as y'all thought. It's going to be pretty fact based, in which case there is no deep state issue here. And it was a fully legal investigation. So now the report has officially been released. And I will just read this one line from the

Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz, referring to the investigations into George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, and Carter Page, the beginnings of the 2016 Russia investigation. Quote, we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations. Oh, no. That's the opposite. Bill Barr wanted to hear there's a fbi deep state problem where democrats

are wielding their law enforcement abilities to smear this president and wiretap and all this they just say there wasn't like a technical like technically something wrong that happened they couldn't find any evidence of political bias or even improper motivation. Yeah, they did find one very low-level lawyer who completely fucked up on some paperwork with Carter Page, his FISA warrant, or his FISA order. But the thing with that is, if you even take that part,

it wasn't necessarily an integral part of that investigation. Even if you remove that, a lot of the information that came out is completely, it's inconsequential. So Bill Barr, of course, what's his summary? How does he saw what he did to the Mueller report? He's like completely exonerates the president.

And it was like, no, well, he did the exact same thing. This is what Bill Barr says. The inspector general's report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that in my view were insufficient to justify the steps taken so a case closed yeah i mean essentially it's really fucked up this is like this is exactly the kind of attorney general that trump wanted when uh jeff sessions was in office. Was like someone who's like, I need you to just fucking be my hype man. Yeah.

I need you to be spliff star of the flip mode squad and fucking just scream it out from the side and back me up when I do this shit. I need you to be the street corner colonel. But then this is what he has now. Someone who literally goes the first line of the IG report. We did not find documentary or documentary testimonial evidence then he says the inspector i mean it's now makes clear that the fbi launched an intrusive yeah so it's just it is uh what we thought it was yeah and i guess this is again another person why

we need to complete we need to be looking at bill barr's actions among everyone else because there's so many people involved at this point at every level to try and obscure our reality or what the president's motivations are and things like that. I mean, there's not a single person here who isn't completely just fully swamped DNA-ed at this point. In the words of the movie The Irishman, it is what it is, or it's what itman it is what it is or it's what it is they said it's it's what it is and they say it multiple times in a way that implies that

that is like the most damning thing that can be said in a mafia in mafia parlance what it is what it is and he's like wait he said that wait it's what he said it's what it is and then it does eventually mean that somebody is completely fucked but oh it's what it is yeah it's the way the mafia uh and the zeitgeist uh communicates it is we just say things very vaguely you know me it is what it's what it's yeah it's what it's yeah uh let's talk about this art fiasco in miami in miami dude art basil so miami's like a big part of the art scene yeah well the art there's art bass there's the wheel in basil in sw Right. But then this is for a bunch of people trying to escape the snow to go somewhere to buy more art in December. This is what Art Basel is, if I'm real cynical about it. It's what it is.

It's what it is. It's what it is. So there was a piece called The Artist that had everybody a flutter because it was essentially a piece. It was a banana duct taped to a wall and it sold for one hundred twenty thousand. Now. Oh, no. So it's called The Comedian, I believe. That's what the name of I'm so sorry.

Why don't you leave the jokes to us? Yeah. Sorry. This joke sucks. Yeah. Wait. So did they just go up to the wall of the art museum did they produce a chunk of wall and tape no no it's just on the wall right there so if you bought

the piece buy that you just cut it out jigsaw the wall out yeah okay yeah nope what super producer anna hosnier has more information on the subject so super Super Producer Anna Hosnier is pointing out that in the art world, like in the modern art world, where sometimes just like pissing on something or painting the word armut on a urinal, which was like a hugely influential piece of art in the early 20th century. Thank you.

Was that like just the concept is what you're buying you're buying a certificate that gives you the right to recreate that art wherever the fuck you want to uh with the artist essentially um but so you don't it's not because that banana is gonna go bad was my next question oh it's gonna go all the way well that's why this other guy came up to it and ate the banana off the wall oh yeah he just took the banana off and was like well i'm doing a performance art piece called the hungry artist uh and so i consumed this piece and and people were like oh okay that guy was just kicked out he was just kicked out and they taped up another banana uh well they they what they did was they put a piece of duct tape that said,

we'll be right back, because they didn't want to inspire anyone else to just keep doing it. They're like, okay, you've had your fun. We're not going to tape another piece back. However, to make it fully 2019, this other guy named Rod Weber, this artist goes up with lipstick and wrote with his finger, Epstein didn't kill himself on the wall where that piece was. What did he name that?

The philosopher? No, he just did it. I mean, yeah, I don't know if he had an art piece. But he himself is also another conceptual artist or performance artist. The thing was, the fucking people at the thing, they covered it up like it was a murder scene. Like with a sheet. And he was arrested. Oh, the Epstein thing? Yeah. The guy was arrested oh the epstein thing yeah the guy was

like the police took him away i mean versus the guy who ate it hey get the fuck out of here the guy who wrote up epstein didn't kill himself police please sir come get this man yeah i wonder if that has anything to do with the incredible number of people who hang out at art museums who probably had frequent flyer miles on the Lolitics. I mean, art is a great way to shield yourself from taxes. Yeah, that's a good point. Buying a lot of art. But it's weird.

In the Miami Herald, one of the Miami papers, like first one, I think it was Boston Magazine or someone, they were just sort of like, artist writes Epstein didn't kill himself. In one of the Miami papers, it was like someone vandalizes wall with message about Epstein. Huh.

And it wasn't to like, you read in it, they actually have the quote of what was written, but it was weird to just sort of, the difference totally of like, something regarding Epstein. Also, you know, points to you for doing the 2019 meme of the year. Also, he didn't kill himself.

But some points are knocked off because he misspelled Epstein's name. Oh, gee whiz. But actually, the banana thing, a couple things here. If you want to make a piece of art and call it the comedian,

you should just paint my face. Hey! Watch out! That would sell for $120,000. Thank you so much and then secondly um the 120 000 uh banana art uh i'm reminded of that episode of arrested development when lucille bluth it's like they're talking about like the banana stand and like and she's like well it's one banana what could it cost ten dollars she just has no idea how much a banana would cost yeah that's it that's a great i i forget who did this but uh somebody who interviewed celebrities

used to ask them to like guess how much a gallon of milk cost and there was well bill gates was on i think ellen yeah or somewhere One of my favorite comedian interviewers. Great show for one percenters to yuck it up. Yeah. That's amazing that she did that because she's like, we don't know. This is hilarious. I'll wear it. Tee hee hee.

Right. He guessed that like, he was really spot on with like pizza rolls or something. Like he knew, but he did not know milk. Right. Well, milk is, he he's like do people still drink that yeah absurd to me sir i thought i canceled milk um they're still making that all right well oh no he thought pizza rolls cost 22 dollars per roll for a bag of 22 bucks I don't know, 22 bucks?

Rice-a-roni, five bucks a box. Yeah. No, that's probably true at Erewhon. I mean, adjusted for inflation today. Oh, he knew dental floss. He guessed it was $4. It was $3.78. All right.

Really? Dental floss? What kind of dental floss? According to this one. Like the most expensive, high-end billionaire dental floss? It's weird. It's called Signature Care. It seems like an off-brand. It's not a name brand.

I think that's a store brand. Yeah, right? Kroger-y? It is I who doesn't know the cost of dental floss. Perhaps it is. Perhaps it is I who steals dental floss from cost of dental floss. Perhaps it is. Perhaps it is I who steals dental floss from the store. You know what? It is what it is.

It's what it is. It's what it is. I think it's because I've never used the dental floss my dentist gives me to the point of running out of it. R.I.P. to Carol Spiney. Carol Spiney. Who was the puppeteer inside of Big Bird. Yeah. He's 85. Yeah, passed away Sunday

at the age of 85. Was the one and only, right? I feel like, I mean, I don't know if he had retired up until that point, but I imagine, possibly. There's this one quote I just read where he said, from him, he said, I used to say I'd move on to something greater i wouldn't leave this for anything but i'd like

to keep doing it until i can't hold that bird's head up big bird big bird you know one of the candidates or one of the uh characters one of the candidates for the democratic nomination who i support one of the uh Sesame Street characters who still holds up. Like Grover has been fully replaced by Elmo. There's no Grover anymore? What do you mean, like in Children's Hearts? Yeah, in Children's Hearts. Like Grover was,

like when you look back at books from the 80s. Yeah, a lot of Grover. Grover was the dude. Very Grover-centric universe. And I don't think... Bert and Ernie too? I don't think my three-year-old could pick Grover out of a lineup. Well, Tle me elmo fucking vaporized all the other characters yeah they

all all those other sesame street those muppets got drinking problems right they're like yo we ain't shitting the big bird is still front and center is is oscar the grouch still around yeah i really identify strongly i loved oscarouch. Oscar's still there. Yeah. Still out here. Good, good. I loved, yeah, Ernie. I mean, but Oscar's such a, like, iconic, like, such a clear representation of, he's the only one who's allowed to be mean.

Like, it's like, yeah, like, of course that's gonna be. Is he mean? I guess Burt, not mean, but, like, have negative feelings that he expresses on a consistent basis and maybe Bert, but not really. So like, it makes sense that Oscar would still be kind of iconic,

but Big Bird is like trash can Big Bird. I guess Big Bird is sort of the protagonist. Yeah. I mean, he was all, I mean, from when I was watching in like the eighties and like a lot of those episodes from the late seventies and eighties, I was watching as a kid was typically around him learning everything.

Yeah. And then other people began to get their shine. I just want to say I always thought Big Bird was pretty chill. Yeah. Brave if you say. Bert and Ernie got a lot of shine, too. Yeah. You know, put down the ducky was a big moment.

Yeah. I'm sure. But, you know, some of us still remember when Big Bird went to Japan. Oh, wow. You know? Yeah. I know it was kind of culturally inaccurate, but he was there. Wait, what was culturally inaccurate?

I felt like there was one part I was just sort of like, as a kid even, I was like, this is an interesting take on Japan. But it's for kids, you know? Right. You can't get complex. Yeah, yeah. I have to watch it again. People are like, oh, have you seen it now?

I'm like oh right shout out to them for not overthinking his name also because everybody else has well it was it was developed by like all child learning development experts wasn't it like that every other character has uh yeah has a name and they're just like nah that's that's big bird that's just a big ass bird right there ah yeah wait Snuffleupagus, that's a Sesame Street character, right? Or is that something else? That's Big Bird's homie. Yeah, they're tight. What happened to Snuffleupagus?

He's still out here. Are you partying on the street? He's still on the block? Yeah, he's still on the block. Thank God. You've seen Snuffleupagus recently, like in latter day productions? But not, he's not a hugely significant character. See, he's being phased out. Right.

All because he had a drug habit. As Dave Chappelle said. Come on, bird. Sick bird. Guys, I mean, we're almost out of time, but we have to talk about the Globenoms. Globenoms. Globenoms, basically like early Christmas here in Tinseltown.

I mean, the town is abuzz. Snubs include watchmen. Yeah, I actually don't care about this at all, but it does seem like this is a big deal, right? I don't know. You go to the Golden Globes, Miles. You're a man on the street at the Golden Globes. I'm a man about town.

I'm a man who uses nepotism to his advantage. Yeah, for sure. No, I'm so bad at watching contenders by the time nominations come out. I'm always like, the nominations come out, and then I start watching things. I'm like, should this have been nominated? Tell me what to watch. There's a few things. Yeah, so, yeah.

I mean, shout out to anyone who is nominated wish pen 15 got nominated yeah me too what are you gonna do uh well they were too busy nominating catch 22 hey but geo uh game of thrones game of thrones they're like get out of here i respect the shit out of them not of Thrones the last six seasons have been nominated in best TV show tons of acting nominations they gave it a nomination even the octogenarians at the Hollywood Foreign Press were like

that was not it that's how you're gonna do Khaleesi? no, not for us otherwise no surprises here no women directors nominated despite movies like Hustlers that would have been great

candidates Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a comedy musical I think both probably we could all agree on that definitely hilarious and gets your toe tapping. What was your favorite musical number?

That one with the flamethrower? Yeah, the flamethrower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck? Eat My Flamethrower by Hippie Scum. It's the one that it's like every year when you have these categories, the studios are just like,

okay, well, can we, how do we work this? Martians of Comedy, right? Martians of Comedy, Martians of Comedy, Martians of Comedy. Oh, right. Rightians are comedy. Martians are comedy. Martians are comedy. Right. Right. Because people, there are parts that you laugh at.

So it's comedy. Yeah, in a way. Yeah. They should be lawyers for the GOP. Yeah, there were some other ones like Jennifer Lopez was nominated for Hustlers, but as supporting actor. So there's all sorts of supporting versus Tom Hanks is supporting actor.

Was that an ensemble cast? Would you say it would make sense for her to be supporting? Well, there's a pretty clear protagonist, and it's not J-Lo, but she's such a major role in it that I don't know. Yeah. I wonder how they figure, or they're like, okay, who are they?

Because Constance Wu, I think is the co-tag. I wonder if they look at who they're putting up for best actress. They're like, okay, let's maybe, we'll migrate to the supporting

actress field to get some more love. What about that Playmobil movie? I just, I heard. Snubbed. Snubbed. Snubbed once again. because i heard this morning you come

in i remember we were talking weeks ago about all this stupid ip that's being optioned for fucking reboots and why yeah uh and the playmobil movie i was like that doesn't make sense because a i don't know how many americans are really that familiar with playobil. Like I get it in the 80s and 70s, a lot of people fucked with Playmobil. Right. But I knew that as like the weird thing that like the cars didn't look quite right because it was all from Germany, I think.

Right, yeah. So it didn't quite match what I thought. As we know, Germans suck at building cars. Oh yeah, exactly. Yeah, terrible, terrible automotive capabilities there. But yeah, and then so when I saw that it was going to be a movie, I'm like, there's no way this is going to do well.

Right. So it was released in Europe first, where it made $12 million on a budget of, I think, $75 million. Oh my God. Seas. And they then went big with their release in the United States after putting it off for a little while. Like, this is going to be bad. They experimented with dropping the price of tickets, which is something you can apparently do. It didn't cost full price. Well, that's what they did with Peloton, right?

So it's going to work. Exactly. It was released at over 2,000 locations, which is usually the benchmark for a wide release. And it made under 1 million. It made $668,000 over the weekend, making it the third worst debut ever for a film that was playing in over 2,000 locations. That's like each theater made about 300 bucks?

Yeah. Tops. This is Yeah. Tops. This is fucking... Tops. Oh, no. Oh, man. I mean, when you watch... I'm looking at the trailer.

It just looks like a janky Lego movie. Right. Totally. You're just swapping it out for the round-faced Playmobil characters? Janky version of a movie that when they made a sequel to it, that was the official sequel to that movie. People... It was a big disappointment, box office-wise. that when they made a sequel to it, that was the official sequel to that movie. People like it, it was a big disappointment box office.

So they, and it's funny too, because Playmobil is a German brand. So you'd think, okay, well then maybe they're going to make their coins in Europe. And they only did 12 million. Yeah.

That budget. Is that the mark though? Total, like what they need to be for profitability or it costs $75 million to animate this. I think that's, I think probably production budget, but you're not need to be for profitability, or it costs $75 million to animate this. I think that's probably production budget, but you're not going to hear anything. Like that has to be the bare bones,

like lowest you could say this movie cost without like making people laugh. And it's still not even going to come close to that. It's going to be one of the all-time biggest flops in the history of the new cutthroat island. When I saw the trailer for it, I don't know, I guess like a month or so ago, I tweeted. I was like, legitimate question, is Playmobil a popular enough toy to justify making a movie about it? And the responses were, it is in Europe, but like, right, no one in the US really anymore,

at least I don't think, plays with these toys or like hardly anyone. So I was like, what are you doing? Well, and European cinema is known traditionally for its toy-based movies. Yes. I mean, the French cinema. Right, the French New Wave,

which was, I think, mostly made with tinker tots a lot of Lincoln Log movies in Germany the classics well Caitlin this has been fun as always having you where can people find you

follow you enjoy you thanks for having me you can follow you, enjoy you. Oh, gee whiz. Thanks for having me, number one. Number two, you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante. Like I said, you can go to my website, CaitlinDurante.com. If you click on the Shows tab, you can see all my upcoming shows as well as the classes that I said that I teach. Again, I have some intro level classes starting in January. If anyone's interested in learning screenwriting

from a master. Thank you. And commander. Yes. I am the master and the commander of the class. And yeah, check out the Bechdel cast. We talk about the representation of women in film from a feminist lens.

Nice. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying oh indeed yes uh this comes from maggie may fish and it says um my favorite films of the decade are all of them even the ones deemed bad uh have had some of the most creative shots slash lighting there's a diamond in every art and it's an expression of humanity any way you look at it. Dot, dot, dot. But it's also absolutely Paddington.

It's the best film of the decade. Unequivocal. Uh-huh. Would you say that is the best film of the decade? Paddington 2 is, I will say right here, right now, the best film of not only the decade, of the history of womankind

with a bomb fantastic Miles where can by the way I think you mispronounced bomb with a bomb where can people find you and what is a tweet you've been enjoying oh okay yes you can find me and what is a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, okay.

Yes, you can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. Oh, God. It's just a tweet I like. Let me tell you a tweet I don't like. Let me tell you a little tweet I'm really hating. You're just scrolling through my Twitter. Aren't you from, I'm sorry,

my hater. Who's a real hater. If you ask me that said Pete Buttigieg, the type of guy who goes on vacation to Italy. And when he comes back, he's always going, ciao. Oh,

gotta stop saying that. I was just in Italy. You understand? And also he committed some kind of international bank fraud while he was there. Now I will say this. I've not committed international bank fraud while he was there. Now, I will say this. I have not committed international bank fraud. But I have been to Italy.

And Pete Buttigieg was dining next to me at Trattoria Mario in the Piazzale Michelangelo. Just on the hills of Tuscany looking down. Anyway, actually, that's not where that restaurant is. And I shamed myself because that's actually near the central market of Tuscany. Anyone would know that. Not Tuscany, it's Florence or Firenze. And Jack O'Brien, I have to really thank you. Oh, why?

What did I? Oh, for tweeting it out and just putting, and everybody. Actually, it was everybody. Group effort. Thank you so much for you saying, at miles of gray, I'll just leave this here. Thank you so much. And then another tweet I like is this from a listener who, we were talking about Rasputin. Rasputin.

And I was like, about ross putin the jamaican version of vladimir putin uh and i'm sure this graphic must have existed or uh the rob in problem at graphic expletive put this together uh because this image of ross putin with the dreadlocks and like the everything the the knit hat He could have been wearing a mesh marina to fully make it Ross style, but thank you so much for putting that in my mentions because I did laugh at that. And Rob does put the Rob in problem.

Yeah, that's true. That's always been true. I've said that from day one. Some tweets I've been enjoying. One is from a comedian named Caitlin Durante who tweeted, turns out Watchmen on HBO is not about a men who get bitten by a radioactive watch. Hollywood has let me down again. Thank you.

And I will always shout it out every time it's that good. Shout it out every time it's that good. And I liked the responses to Bette Midler's tweet. So Bette Midler tweeted a photograph of three young women looking at their phones in an art gallery and tweeted, What's wrong with this picture? Because they're looking at their phone instead of the paintings. because they're looking at their phone instead of the paintings. And Paul F. Tompkins tweeted, you should also shame the people in the gift shop and the cafe of the museum and anyone leaving the museum.

Look at the art at all times. Once you enter the museum, you die there. And the last image on your lifeless eyes is an art. Oh, and also, CBS News tweeted a banana duct tape to a wall was sold for $120,000 at Art Basel Miami. And Matt Oswalt tweeted,

idiot, you can buy a banana for half that price at Whole Foods. Damn. Yeah, that's some good dad content. With approved financing. Yes. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be today? We'll do a track by DJ Crush from Japan, who's kind of like Japan's DJ Shadow.

If you like, you know, just dudes who put little samples together. This track is called Drum, and it's a song that when I used to go to the gym, I would use to work out a lot. And I was singing the Peloton ad. And if I was on a Peloton and was a little bit more serious about my health, I would probably be listening to this song. And that's what reminded me of all that. Instead, I take the stairs at work and I'll call that a workout. Right. Now, I'm not asking this for any reason, but would you be offended if Her Majesty got you a Peloton? Yes, you would.

Because she knows because she says a lot of stuff underhandedly to me. She's like, oh, wow, that Peloton. I heard it worked for some other dude. And I was like, oh, no, it's cool. And she's like, your legs are looking a little cool. She wasn't going to get you one anyway. Less tawny than they could be. Less Pelotony than they could be.

Cool. If she got me one, actually, I would be upset because I feel like $2,000 could be spent so much better. Is that how much they are? It's like $2,300. What? But they break it down and be like, but you can basically be under our thumb monthly for $60 or $50. Yeah, they give you a great deal on it. I'm sick.

Yeah. Because it's a subscription service also. You get to pay that and then subscribe to the thing. To the iPad that screams at you. On the off chance that they'll call you Grace from Brooklyn. Or Grace from Boston. Just get that thing where you take your regular bike you have that lifts your back wheel off the ground so you can pedal it.

And then put an iPad right in front of you. Boom. Put Peloton. I mean, legitimately, that would work just as well. Yeah. Or it's just any stationary bike. Right. But with an iPad on it.

Right. And look, anyone who does spin class or whatever, I don't know about it. So I'm going to assume that's what it is. Well, we're going to ride out on Miles' jock jams. The Daily Zykus is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for today.

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