The Daily Zeitgeist - Pence So Smooth, Best Cruise Ever 10.14.19

Episode Date: October 14, 2019

In episode 494, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Billy Wayne Davis to discuss the LGBTQ town hall, more whistleblowers coming forward, William Barr meeting with Rupert Murdoch, Senate possibly removing Trump in the end anyway, Lindsay Graham being prank called by Russia, passengers on a Norwegian cruise revolting, why US cities are banning drive-throughs, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. The LGBTQ Town Hall went great for Biden, uh2. 4 winners and 3 losers from the presidential town hall on LGBTQ issues3. More Potential Whistleblowers Are Contacting Congress4. Here's Mike Pence repeatedly dodging @VaughnHillyard's question about whether he was aware his administration was holding up aide to Ukraine as leverage to get the Ukrainian government to investigate the Bidens (via @TheBeatWithAri)5. Trump Lashes Out at Fox News Poll as Barr Meets With Murdoch6. The Senate is likelier to remove Trump after impeachment than you think7. Lindsey Graham dishes on Trump in hoax calls with Russians8. Trump Urged Top Aide to Help Giuliani Client Facing DOJ Charges9. Passengers on Norwegian Cruise Line Stage Revolt Over 'Ridiculous' Conditions, Canceled Stops10. Why U.S. Cities Are Banning New Fast-Food Drive-Throughs11. WATCH: Maribou State - 'Feel Good (feat. Khruangbin)' Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's Monday, October 14th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I hear potatoes rolling. Is Jack O'Brien there? Cause I ain't seen impeachment since I don't know where. Well, I'm here in the office sick of Tuscany when I hear that whistle blower it's like

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Mr. Miles Gray! It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Muggsy Bongs, a.k.a. Bong Bradley, a.k.a. Vape Carter, a.k.a. Tracy McBongie, a.k.a. Giannis Adedabongsmoke, a.k.a. Kyle Loudweed, a.k.a. Luka Bongich, a.k.a. Nicholas Smokich, a.k.a.

Hazy McGrady, a.k.a. Con Artest, a.k.a. Scary Johnson, a.k.a. Luka Bongich, a.k.a. Nicholas Smokich, a.k.a. Hazy McGrady, a.k.a. Con Artest, a.k.a. Scary Johnson, a.k.a. Charles Smokely, a.k.a. Trill Lambeer, a.k.a. Gravier McDaniel, a.k.a. Menace Rodman. Damn. And that was a three-hander. Shout-outs to, well, first, the first section from Assoltus Hanna, Hanna Saltissimo. First, the first section from Assoltus Hanna. Hanna Saltissimo. Also, then, Geocache Me Outside at Napalm Radio with Hazy McGrady. And then the final stanza from Christy Yamaguchi-Maine.

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It used to be a great website. Oh, really? Yep. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore. Literally, somebody photoshopped it. The hilarious comedian, Mr. Billy Wayne Davis. Hey, you guys. What's happening, man?

Can I correct you? It's Senator Bong, Brad. Oh, yes. That's true. Yes. Became a senator. Yes, that's true. He became a senator. I remember that one year when he came out to the RNC and spoke. Bill Bradley?

Oh, God, yeah. I thought we were talking Sean Bradley. I assumed it was a Sean Bradley. I think he could become leader of the Mormons. Yeah. Because it's a height thing. And he gave up two of his prime years to Mission. I'm mistaken because Bill Bradley's a Democrat. It was someone else.

Okay. Anyway. Anyways. I mean, if you're looking from their point, from that perspective, two years for your own planet versus like two years in the NBA, you're like, eh. Your own planet sounds like it sounds cool, but are people there with you?

I assume it's like kid rules when you're planning your own mansion and stuff where you're like, it comes with people to do the stuff that you're unaware of. Right. Then when you become an adult, you're just like, man, I don't want a mansion. That's like so much upkeep.

A lot of staff. Yeah. Right. Yeah, so the Mormon religion, heaven, but man i don't want a mansion that's like a so much a lot of staff yeah so right there but the yeah so the mormon religion heaven you get your own planet that you get to be a god of but like are your loved ones there yeah i think you get all this okay at that point maybe you're at such a level of you've been deified that you don't have the same sort of needs emotionally as a mortal that doesn't sound good what if your wife has her own planet? Right, that's what I'm saying. I'm assuming, I mean, she's better than me,

so she's going to have her own planet, and I, you know, am I a person on her planet? Maybe that's the design. Or is she a person on my planet? Maybe that's the design because they have so many wives that are like, listen, when you're dead, they get their own planet, And I don't have to get my own thing. This is Mormonism.

The man has a planet. His wives are there to support. Have their own satellite planets. That's right. The man is the planet and the woman is the moon. Is that true? I don't know. The head is the neck still turns the head.

The neck turns the head, as we say. Happy wife, happy life. All right. Billy Wayne, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. I think we just did. We're going to take our listeners through a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the town hall that the Democratic candidates did on CNN. Chris Cuomo's hilarious jokes. Joe Biden's just Joe Biden-ness.

All of that. We're going to check in with the whistleblower scandal. Top form, that guy. Joe top form Biden. He really, he knows himself. Yeah. We're going to talk about Mike Pence. We're going to check in with how he's dealing with the heat

not good at taking it maybe we're gonna talk about uh whether the department of justice is getting involved with uh fox news being mean to trump oh uh we're gonna look at a op-ed in the washington post that explains why it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world for the Senate to actually remove Trump if the House impeaches him. And then we're going to look at the wildfires and a Norwegian cruise ship that almost caused an international revolt. We got so much shit to talk about today, but first, Billy Wayne, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are i i've been searching about how to fix the iphone 8 because it keeps restarting and restarting restarting yeah it was the answer to buy a new iphone well i took it to the genius bar and they restarted it from scratch and then

it was i was like oh cool and then i left and then put my stuff in there and then started again. So then I took it to Verizon and was like, hey, I want a new one because I have insurance. And they sent me a new one. And now it's doing it. Really? Yeah. So it's just sitting in my car.

It's like a brick right now. Just restart and restart and restart. Oh, man. It's what happened was I downloaded the new software Like the update And now it's I downloaded the new software And it's been a little glitchy

Is it? Yeah And then I went to Verizon and they were like Well you've got insurance or for $100 Upgrade We can upgrade you now instead of waiting two months. And I was like, just, I've been paying for the insurance to send me a new phone. They're like, yeah, but you

depend on your phone, right? Maybe we can leverage this to get you into an upgrade. But then the guy, I mean, I almost did, but the guy's like, we don't have any in stock so we'd have to send you one. I was like, so okay. Thanks. Nice try. But then they sent me one that just-

The 8 sounds like it's older than it is, but the 8 came out at the same time as the 10. Yeah. And so now we're on the 11. Yeah. What happened to 9? Yeah. The 9 is going to be, there's going to be like a legendary iPhone 9 that's still out there. They're like, I heard it folds.

Can you imagine? And you can see through walls and shit. Or it's a thing like our grandkids will talk about and be like, there was no iPhone 9. But I thought, like I've said that the iPhone 8 is the best iPhone because it's the last one they made with a button. So it's still got the single button. Now they figured out how to fuck you though.

Yeah. Yeah, they did. Because I can't. It's in the car now. Just restarting. Just restarting over and over again. I like that button now. Just burning through that battery life. Yeah, until did. Turns out. Because I can't. It's in the car right now. Just restarting. Just restarting over and over again. I like that button. Just burning through that battery life.

Yeah, until it dies and then I take it. Yeah. Fuck. What is something you think is overrated? Over at smartphones. Okay. Since I've had, not had one, for like four days now. Right.

My life's been pretty great. What specifically? Like your lack of checking the shit or the inability for people to bother you? The first day I've been trying to finish for like a month. Oh, really? That was fucking hilarious. You're just like fucking Homer Simpson galaxy brain like after he gets the crayon removed from his brain.

It was like I did feel. And then just like I'm not – I felt also the same way i felt after i quit smoking right because there's these like phantom times i want to go check my phone and i'm like oh i don't have it and i just sit and do something else yeah be present observe things around and i was like oh this is an issue for not just me. I think it's society. Oh, 100%. This is a... Oh, yeah. And then it's freaked out my wife.

She's like, so am I not going to be able to get a... And I was like, no, I'm just going to go do this thing and do this thing, and then I'll be back around this time. Right. I can check email, though. Right. I got that. We can do that.

I'll swing by a net cafe. Yeah. Let's check and see if you've emailed me. Play some Counter-Strike at the net cafe. Are you going to get a flip phone? Oh, I looked at one last time I was on Verizon. But has this brought you to the point where you're thinking,

do I do this? I can't yet because of travel and kids. Just like that. I am doing the iPad today. Yeah, I noticed. I kind of like it because there's a... A button? Well, my Kindle's on here too, so all my books are on here when I travel.

And now I'm just like, oh, I can... Read. ...kind of control what information is coming and going to me. Yeah. And if I have a flip phone, they have to call me. Yeah. Or wait 15 minutes for you to reply in a text because you're like, damn, is this T9 input for my text?

It's one of those things where it's like when you grow up in the church and they tell you about sex and then you get older and you're like, ah, it just feels like I should do it this way. This feels like my body's like, yes. Yeah. Your brain's like, we would work really good like this.

Yeah. So I may have a goddamn flip phone next time I come in here. I mean, over the weekend, I forgot my phone going out somewhere. And at first, I was like, oh. I literally, in the car, was like, oh, fuck. I'm like, I don't have my phone. Turn around. No, I didn't. I'm like, I got my phone. Turn around. No, I didn't.

I was like, I don't fucking. Then I sort of got a little disgusted with myself that I almost fell apart because I left a square at my house, a rectangle that has a screen. And then at this shit I was at, I was so much more like present. And even like the times that you would feel like, you know, awkward silences, because that's really the thing that it's enabled us to do is like, just avoid awkward silences or maybe engaging with your environment that you would feel like, you know, awkward silences. Cause that's really the thing that it's enabled us to do is like, just avoid awkward silences or maybe engaging with your environment that you just go, let me just dive into my phone. I did that.

I was just like sitting like a fucking monk taking shit in and being like, yeah, I think the one undisputed way it's made our lives better is cameras all the time. So you can take a picture of anything. I think we have better better more pictures of our kids now i guess uh and it's made waiting in line better but i think i don't know that waiting in line was a bad thing i think being bored and like boredom was a key part of like developing our brain oh yeah because it forced you to do like you were never so bored you just sat in a

fucking room doing nothing right you'd be like all right well let me go let me naturally arrive at some activity i've been busy enough that i went and sat in a room and did nothing right that's different that's a remedy to your you know what i mean nope i'm gonna have to what's going on where's it's like when i get off the road uh i've been on the road for a couple weeks and then i'll reset my wife like you haven't left the house in three days i'm i know it's awesome all my stuff's here all the things my wife like you haven't left the house in three days i'm like i know it's awesome all my stuff's here all the things i like i also haven't been here in eight yeah so it's really great i don't the bed is perfect every part of your body starts smelling like balls oh yeah and she's like but you haven't like been that's that she's like but you gotta clean yourself

all right where's the rag oh yeah uh What is something you think is underrated? The North Mississippi All-Stars. It's a wonderful blues rock band. I think you brought this up. When did you interact with them? Did you have an interaction with this group? I have opened for them a couple times. That's what it was. Yes, because I feel like I know this name because of you.

But they have a new record out that is fantastic. Okay. It came out. Mavis Staples is on it. Jason Isbell is on it. Jason who? Jason Isbell. Who's Jason Isbell?

If you don't know, you gotta Google that. If you don't know, you don't know. You gotta Google that. And then a couple other people, but it is dope. We have Luther Dickinson and his brother is the drummer. Luther's a guitar virtuoso. They're playing in Santa Monica tonight. I'm going.

Oh. What is that place called? Somebody's attic or whatever it's called. Oh, I don't know what you're talking about. Anyway. Violin's basement. No? Okay.

I would play that. It sounds like a fun way. I saw Eddie Vedder playing the violin at Violin's basement. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? That if you have your hazard lights on while you're driving, the traffic laws don't apply anymore. That is a myth.

Yeah. But I have seen like three or four people in the last couple weeks in LA where I'm like, you just can't just put them on and do whatever. I fire them up and I'll stop in the middle of the freeway to get something out of my trunk. If you could do that, everyone would just have them on, ramming into each other like, I got my lights on. Wait, what kind of egregious hazard light use did you witness? On the way here was what sparked it where I was like man this is like

something I've seen three or four just one of those star line tour vans uh-huh dude just I watched him do it in the he was in the far right lane right in front of me and he just put on his his hazards and then just went over and did a complete U-turn on Hollywood Boulevard. Oh, like that. It wasn't like, hi, I'm going to pick up these passengers, double park or something. It's like, I'm using this to be like warning.

He was just going to veer off to the right and be like, this is how you stop. He cut across to the left? Hey, they're called hazards, man. That's what he's like, I'm about to be a hazard. This is hazardous, right. Yeah. I mean, but there's other people stopping and looking like I did.

Like, what? You can't even. Right. Not even doing a hand out the window. That used to be the hazard sign. He had this look on his face like, this is how driving happens. Right. There was no concern.

Also, were there passengers in it? I don't know. I couldn't see because I was just like, who is this man? If that was my gig and I knew my company was insured on that shit, I would probably be like, my fuck, watch this.

I'm not even fucking around. I'm just going to do this U-turn with the hazards on. I mean, there was no emotion either way. It was just like, this is how my day goes. Yeah. Right.

So that was just, I mean, I went from being like, what in the fuck? To being like, all right day goes. Yeah. Right. So that was just, I mean, I went from being like, what in the, to being like, all right, dude. Yeah. Okay. That's next level bad driving when you can't even be mad. You're just like. Well, you're in a car.

I'm glad I got out of your way. Amazing. Yeah. He may be still doing it. Right. Just doing donuts in the tree. Yeah. He's like, someone's going to hit me.

I was trying to get hit, but everyone just keeps respecting me. I see that, too, when people go in the emergency lane to beat morning rush hour traffic. And I'm always like, please, dear God, if there's a good cop out there, let me see you pull this asshole over right now. Because there'll be people just, they throw the hazards on, they're flying down the emergency lane. You're like, that is not even, that doesn't even prepare somebody just because the lights are on. Because by virtue of what you're doing, just like busting U-turns from the far right lane. You're just going to see somebody just like

BAM! It's like the motorcycle guys. I respect, hate them. Equally. Where I'm like, that's cool but you're going to die. And I'm okay with it for whatever. You mean like when they're splitting lanes and stuff? It's that risk-reward that most of life is. Yeah. You're just like,

what's the consequences? You're like, I'm gonna get there 30 minutes early, but I could die. Right. I'm gonna have fun doing it. But, if I don't have fun, I might be dead. It just takes one stoner jamming too hard to modest yahoo to not notice you.

Yeah. And just swipe you. Yes. And goodnight you. It's impressive, though. It is kind of impressive. That's why I said I hate respect it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the...

Because you're like, I wish I would do it. Right. I'm not. Yeah, that is the thing. I am not. Too scared. Too scared. Got kids to live for.

That is the... Yeah, there's the children thing now. See, it's these damn kids. See, this is where you fucked up. I'm about Got kids to live for. That is the children thing now. See, it's these damn kids. See, this is where you fucked up. I'm about to buy my motorcycle now. The thing they say about motorcycles is that our brain sometimes doesn't register them because our brain is just like the way it's built. When we're out driving, we're just looking for car-shaped things that are moving like cars.

And so people will just drive like it's not there. And I feel like motorcycles, like good motorcyclists recognize that and drive defensively about it. And then bad motorcyclists are like, I'm going to take advantage of that. They don't see me. I'm like, I'm behind you. Now I'm in front of you. I mean, all it takes is you one time to almost kill a motorcyclist to forever be afraid of killing another motorcyclist as a driver. Oh, in San Francisco, it's insane.

They're everywhere. And those hills and everything. You're like, what happens? Well, you get hit sometimes. That's what all of them say. Hey, man. Sometimes you get hit. And you're like, okay.

Let's check in with Joe Biden from last week's LGBTQ town hall. Because this is just the most Joe Biden, like trying to be like cool, wise and dude. The whole town hall was a very interesting mixture of performances. Elizabeth Warren, Beto, Amy Klobuchar at times did really well. Kamala at times didn't quite seem to have answers

to very specific questions. Her and Amy Klobuchar typically would like revert to being like, when I was a DA, this is what I did to stand by LGBTQ people. But sometimes the questions were like, what are you going to do about the epidemic of black trans women being killed? At one point, Kamala Harris was interrupted

by an activist who was in the audience and she heard this woman speak. And then her response was just, she's like, what are you going to do to stop these men from killing us? And Kamala Harris just looked very respectfully and just said, you're right, and couldn't really articulate a response. Whereas, like, other candidates were able to. Like, Beto was able to articulate stuff.

Other people were saying, like, we need to make it a priority to DOJ. Anyway, it was a mixed bag. But, you know, overall, some good performances. But then there were some weird moments. Who's the best performance? From what I saw, I didn't see much of Julian Castro. I'm sure he probably did well. But I was actually pretty impressed with how open Beto was.

Yeah. His answer to saying, what will you do to protect black trans women? He said, I will listen to black trans women to figure out how to do this properly. And I want to listen to people or have a dialogue. When when he didn't have an answer he would he was willing to acknowledge what his blind spots were um and i think i mean overall it was it was fine i think at one point elizabeth warren was like i'm not sure if i would make uh crimes against trans people a hate crime i was like i don't know about that i think you should i i understand from just like a prosecutor and law point of view, it is that thing of like, shouldn't we make all crime just bad? Right.

Well, I think her point, which was smart, she was it wasn't just like, well, no, full stop. That's my answer. She's like, I don't think that's necessarily the best answer is because the reason we need to elevate things to hate crimes to give this priority is because the justice system itself will not organically prioritize these things so for her it was like a sea change culturally at the department of justice which is what a lot of candidates said yeah i mean there just seems to be like a giant change at every level well because again they point to the fact that a lot of local jurisdictions might not prioritize crimes against trans people or understand them yeah exactly and then so they're saying well if that's not the case then we need the department of justice at a federal level to prioritize that and you know this one is like a good one yeah our department of justice

like they love stuff like that didn't elizabeth right now the department of media oh god you know they just love they're're so inclusive and understanding. But they seem confused at what, like, law means. Yeah, well, absolutely. I mean, they seem to be a force in direct opposition. They're like Justice, the EDM group from France? Which it is kind of a good opportunity for someone with actual plans to come into these deeply destroyed institutions and fix them yeah because it's

like the right time to change institutions sure fundamentally so thanks yeah dipshits and i think uh didn't worry you saying elizabeth warren had a moment where she was like yeah that was wrong like yeah someone asked her about yeah how she wasn't didn't think a prisoner who needed like a gender reassignment procedure or some kind of medical procedure tied to their gender reassignment. She was saying that was like a waste of taxpayer money. And then they were like, do you believe that? And I was like, no, that was wrong. She's like, it's a medical need.

And I shouldn't have said that. She was pretty blunt when it came to things she wasn't uh you know willing to or that at least to demonstrate her growth but really the focal point were a few fucking moments there's a moment when kamala harris came out she opened her moment at the town hall by you know saying what her preferred pronouns were she said i'm she my pronouns are she her hers chris cuomo goes yeah mine too and the whole town hall just went ugh like

like really that's you're at this is an LGBTQ town hall and you're coming off with some lame ass did he do that

really yes I mean I'm not laughing at what he did but I'm laughing at what he did the situation

does that make sense no I could not believe it. It was like, fuck. Do you think there's like his aides are just like, I mean, dude. How the fuck? Or it's like a sketch where he's got something in his ear where someone's debergiac and he just says something.

He's like, yeah, me too. And then they hear that. He's like, no, no, no. The worst possible thing I could have said so this is this is what happens this is the introduction to kamala harris to speak good to see you senator thank you for joining us how are you anna thank you guys and my pronouns are she her and hers she her guys and my pronouns are she her and hers she her mine too all right dude all right and then she goes all right and she looks off into the crowd and it's almost like

yeesh yeah and it's it was a fucking awful i mean i'm glad she fresh it's just it's just unacceptable like what the fuck that is i mean they should be like all right you're done you can't do it you can't do the thing anymore. Hey, Fredo, fuck off, my man. Come on. That was like, get out of here. He's like, damn it. Damn it.

And he's not even mad. He's like, you're right. I'm an idiot. I gotta go. I'm a fucking idiot. Can't be president now. He did then be like, he's like, I really apologize for my failed joke. I thought that was going to do way better.

Yeah. No, right after she said that she said all right can we bring our host back up because i think that's my time but then you know joe biden had a few moments where he was i don't know some people were saying he was play acting like he was gay at times by sort of flirting people felt like he was flirting or that he's got one move right man or woman he's gonna be like hey how's it going right old man yeah he was he joked that he was gonna like about to come out he like mimed giving anderson cooper a kiss uh but then there was just one soundbite yeah like it was this is is Joe Biden, y'all. This is, I know it sounds like a fucking absurd, but when you hear this one clip, now a lot

of people are focusing on this one moment. He was, I think he was trying to say how far we've come along around like sort of our rhetoric around the like LGBTQ issues. And he starts off. I'm already uncomfortable. I know. It starts off saying, remember Anderson? Back like 15, 20 years ago, we talked about this in San Francisco.

Take away the rest of the clip. We talked about this in San Francisco. It was all about, well, you know, gay bathhouses and everything. It's all about round-the-clock sex. It's all, come on, man. Then he goes on and says, gay couples are more likely to stay together than heterosexual couples. And then Anderson Cooper was like, all right, we'll leave it there. He sounds like a, if you just flip what he's doing,

he still sounds like a preacher. And he's like, and they go in there and they touch their pee-pees together. Right. And then the devil comes in, he pokes them in the belly, and he's like, hey, hey. You know? And then they get all their juices in a pile, and that's how AIDS happened. I mean, what?

Cut. No, what? We'll leave it there, Vice President Biden. Thank you so much. Go to Joe3069, huh? 69, huh? Jesus. All right, y'all.

I've been Joe. But yeah, that was an interesting moment. And there were a few moments where a couple activists were really speaking out. But there were moments where one woman was calling out CNN specifically for what they were saying was an erasure of black trans women. And noting that a lot of the people who were speaking out or asking questions that were predeterm you know, predetermined to ask questions were not trans women of color, although I think later on there were. And there were moments where like, you know, like all of the candidates were very like respectful. I'm not sure what Joe Biden would have done had something happened there. But like it happened with Pete.

It happened with Beto, Kamala. Calm down, it. Yeah. Is it yeah i've almost feel it i i could have imagined if it was joe biden and chris cuomo if it was that pairing not chris cuomo or anderson cooper and joe biden where the fuck that would have gone with two you know cishet dudes just being like all right we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado,

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Wow. It makes me so happy. Yeah. Yeah. Not the whistle. I mean, just that maybe the tide could change a little bit. The too short part. The too short song.

The rest of it is just, it makes me nauseous. Just a big short dog fan. I do love too short. There may be more whistleblowers coming forward. They may have come forward over the weekend since we've recorded this. We don't know what the content is, but we do know that there are more whistleblowers who have something. Reached out. Yeah, that they're like, oh, right. So we're doing this now? do know that there are more whistleblowers who have uh have something reached out yeah that they're like oh right don't we're doing this now like i feel like a lot of people were being like

what is the process right like that's what they're doing like it's just like right and then the whistleblowing people are like we've never this is like one person in this department right that's just we are back someone at random we have a long like yeah this is this is just glinda right yeah exactly and this usually takes her a while right i wonder if it is sort of seeing that the response to the first one and how congress was really adamant about protecting them and trying to keep this like a legal semi-legal process of doing this is encouraging other people now too. Because I wonder if before that they're like, who knows what the fuck's going to happen if I do this.

I might fall on deaf ears, get completely stifled. I mean, it's like a lot of movements when one person comes out and is brave, then other people take that lead. I'm not going to get shot. Right. But I'll be right behind them right uh let's talk about how mike pence is dealing with this though because we've seen how he uh experiences how he

reacts to conflict before when he closed his eyes and just tried not to move when the president was yelling at nancy great nancy Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. So he found himself at the end of last week under fire. He was being asked questions about what his relationship was to all the events that we're learning about. Because they know, again, Trump very quickly threw him under the bus at the beginning. So fast. Why don't you ask Mike Pence about his talks with them? And do you think Pence at that second was like, I'm not going to get to be vice president.

Right. Yeah. I'm not going to get to be president. Well, because now everyone who's been near this thing has gotten dirt on them. And when he was asked by Von Hilliard, credit to him because he was making it, these questions very easy to answer

about establishing a timeline of like, whether you're not, not even, because obviously the question that everyone sidesteps is, do you think it's appropriate for the president of the United States to ask a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a political opponent? That's the one question every GOP person goes, sidesteps and does whatever. So Von Hilliard's tactic was, you know, were you aware of the Ukrainian aid being held up? Was that known to you? Did you know this just to sort of establish these things? And Mike Pence, good

Lord. You won't be able to hear this. I mean, you will, but just to give you a visual, I've never seen someone look more uncomfortable than he does. Like at one point, I don't know. Imagine Mike Pence,

someone just opened a Hustler magazine and showed Mike Pence. That's really what it feels like. His knees are bending away, but then he's also drawing his penis and butt back a little bit. Or he's trying to shift his torso away from the journalist. Yeah, it's very interesting. But now let's listen to it.

In the beginning, you're going to hear a lot of mechanical noise because I think they're at some air base. Because they're winding him up. Yeah, right. But you will hear... Where's this USB? The questions you'll see begin to emerge about really trying to corner Pence

to get him to answer very specifically about his knowledge of this plan. Right. you ever aware of the vice president's interest in the bidens that interested investigating the biden police in part of the reason he said did you know that aid was being held up because of the bite i heard what i never discussed uh the issue of of uh the issue of the bidensens with President Zelensky. What I can tell you is that all of our discussions internally, I mean, the president and our team, in our context, in my office with Ukraine,

were entirely focused on the broader issues of the lack of European support and corruption. But you were aware of the interest in the Bidens being investigated. Is that being tied to aid to Ukraine being outdone? That's your question. Let me be very clear. What the fuck? The issue of aid and our efforts with regard to Ukraine. Okay, he just starts meandering.

Hold on. He just starts meandering? No, he's been meandering. Then he just gets going. Butering no he's been yeah he meandered and then he just gets but when you go well that's your question did you cheat on me well that's your question uh no isn't it it is right so were you aware that this interest in an investigation to the bidens was tied to the aid for ukraine well so that's you that's your question asking that right and see this is what I'm going to tell you. That's your question.

Von Hilliard from NBC News. I am Mike Pence, the vice president, okay? Just now let's move on. That is you asking that question. This is me silently pooping my pants. Right. Well, that's your question. That's your question is my favorite response to anything, I think.

Like, that's just, yeah. When did you decide y'all were going to get a divorce? When he replied, well, that's your question. And I was like, okay. Well, that's your opinion, but in a form that makes no sense. Yes, it is completely stunned. It's just like your question, man. The articulate version would be like, well, the premise,

I actually don't agree with the premise of this question, where you're like your question, man. The articulate version would be like, well, the premise, I actually don't agree with the premise of this question where you're blah, blah, blah, because he's just like, oh, my It is the political version of fuck you in an argument. Right. Is what that line is. I mean, yeah. That's your question. That's your question, and I want to be very clear.

Yeah. About what? About that that was my question? I know. There was no mystery around that. That was very clear. I don't feel like the second part is true at all. Of what?

Who are you? I'm Von Hill. Right. From NBC, right? And that was your question. He just says, I want to quit being vice president right now. What if he looked around and goes, can I not do this? Can I not do this? You don't want to do it anymore.

Oh, man. Very quickly, it reminds me of a moment. Barry Jenkins, who directed Moonlight, when he was first nominated for that film when I was making digital content for these magazines, I did an interview with him that was kind of funny-ish where he would talk about

he was interviewing himself, basically. And I was like, I just need you to ask a question to this side of the camera and then answer. And he's like, oh, okay. And then we start. And he just looked at his publicist and goes, can I not do this? And like looked at me. He's like, do I have to do this? I'm like, no, absolutely not.

I'm like, no. I'm like, I don't even want to do this. I want to leave. I want to leave right now. No, you do not. And then like the publicist was like no i'm like i don't even want to do this i want to leave i want to leave right now no you do not and then like the public i'm so sorry and i'm like i get it dude like this this guy is an indie filmmaker and suddenly he's like everyone's in his face i'm trying to get him to do a fucking bit but it was the most sincere moment of like just being like do i have to resist the game because i don't like it. I wanted to make movies.

Yeah, I was like, no, please do your thing. You're better than that. Let me make these dumb viral videos. They talked about George W. Bush when he was running for president. There was this moment where he was in New Hampshire just going to everywhere and he's in this hotel and they're like, all right, now you got to go somewhere. And he's just laying on this bed and they're like,

all right, you got to go speak to these people. And he just went, do I have to? And I was like, that's who that dude is. Yes. And he war-crimed his way to the top. Do I have to? Do I have to? But he was good at remembering people's names.

Oh, is that his skill that made him personable? It's like Michael Scott. Apparently, yeah. Apparently, he's like a genius of socializing, which is how he. I mean,ott yeah apparently he's like a social like a genius of socializing which is how he i mean look at look at how he's i'm good at parties too right i'm not so my dad wasn't the head of the cia so i didn't get to be president i know i know uh all right let's talk about fox news uh and the evolving relationship between the Trump White House and Fox News. Yeah.

So, you know, we talked last week about how Trump had that amazing response to Fox merely publishing a poll that they had conducted. I think it sucks. What do you say? You know, the pollsters there suck. Right. Okay. And what was the other thing where he's like, yeah, well, I'm and the editor was like, and I'm president. So. Yeah. So, yeah.

So sorry. Hey, so, you know, that was him being pretty upset. He's cool. And then was saying, like, one American news is my new best friend. Best friendship with Fox News has been terminated. Right. And later that day, William Barr, the attorney general, went to visit R rupert murdoch at his home in new york for we don't know what so what does the attorney general need to go to the head of fox

what business does the attorney general well i think that i think that's more of like a hey that's like a grovel that's a groveling situation it's one it's one of it's not directions that's like a grovel situation. That's a groveling situation. It's one of a couple directions. It's like we're losing Fox, go get Rupert, or Rupert may have said something like, I'm sorry, bro, we can't really, we're gonna just let this play out. Well, I think that's what it is.

I think Rupert is a businessman. Right. So Trump was good for business for a while, and now he's not. So they're good for business for a while. Yeah. And now he's not. So they're going to do business elsewhere. And they recognize that. And he was like, hey, you need to go talk to the Australian motherfucker. Right.

And then they went over there. Because here's the situation. Whoever has the power doesn't leave. You come to them. So that's the sign right there. It's not a good sign that the AG is going to them. Unless there's some threat he's delivering from there, too. No, no.

They say, hey, you come here because we have to tell you something. Well, I think maybe there has to be some kind of negotiation. I don't think Bill Barr would go. I don't think. You think he just went there to be. Yeah. I just feel like that shows way truer than we want it to be. Sure.

But I still think in any instance, right, and I think especially for Trump, because this is, the whole thing is like, essentially, if it's the version where Bill Barr is telling Murdoch kind of like, hey, this whole thing is going to get pretty ugly, and if we want to kind of keep this going up, can you help out with the narrative? And I think maybe that's at least the piece of information Barr was presenting. I don't think it might have swayed Rupert Murdoch if he's decided what he's going to do. I think they were groveling.

I think they were groveling. Of being like, no, but see, here's the deal. If you don't help, this all comes down. His classic, like his whole thing is he overplays everything and he and that's what he's done with fox he thought they were he misunderstood what they were doing he thought that they were fans of his right and they're not a side game and they were like no we just we want these people right this number of people No, we just, we want these people.

Right. This number of people. Right. If we say these things, they tune into fucking everything we say. Right, right, right. And do. As long as we click these things. Right. And then, oh, it looks like, hey, they don't give a shit about you anymore.

Right. So. So. Boop. And I'm gonna follow the money. Now we're talking shit about you and they love it. Right. And then those guys are like, oh, nah.

Well, see, that's where I'm curious to see what happens. Oh, that was our whole thing. But what happens to ratings, right? Because I think on some level there are people who are more loyal to Trump than to Fox News. And at what point does that... I don't think it's as many people as you think. But I'm curious to know. I know.

And I think, but that's a true... I would love to discover what that actually ends up being. Because I think as it's happening, Trump is slowly being like, we don't like them, we don't like them. How many people can he migrate to one American, whatever the fuck, or Twitch or whatever the fuck he's doing now? It'll be so smaller than you think. Because what Fox is so good at doing is making their viewers justify throwing things that they truly believe under the bus in a slow way

that they can keep that same base and then he won't be able to migrate anybody because it's not as slick. Well, he definitely got 40,000 people to follow his Twitch channel in 24 hours because he went to Twitch. Did you say 40,000? 40,000 in the first 24 hours.

Well, I mean, if you consider how many people are on Twitch. Yeah, you already have to be fucking with Twitch. But I guess he's going where the homies are. Maybe he gets so desperate, he's like, fuck it, I'm going to have to start streaming gaming to get my followers back. Look, Miles, as somebody who knows literally nothing about Twitch, that's not that good, okay?

That's not good. There could literally be 40,000 people twitch i don't know uh no there's there's a million a couple more uh the front page of foxnews.com as of this recording has a picture of donald trump jr looking whiny and the caption is it's not fair oh uh so maybe they are turning on him. No, they are. That would be wonderful. Let's talk about, so this guy from. You start looking at the polls and like, oh, like the actual polls. And you're like, oh, all these people like this lady that wants to kill all these billionaires.

Right. Right. Okay. We need to start getting these people back on our side because I'm one of the billionaires right right okay okay we need to we need to start getting these people back on our side because i'm one of the billionaires yeah like there is out of touch old guy vice president and then the next two are people who are drumming up the fucking and the billionaire class why well i didn't torches and pitchforks what the hell the one thing i can't explain if it's really going in that direction is why the his approval rating is still just basically staying solid at 42% right now.

Because you can manipulate any of those things? Because also, who are they asking? Is it a landline thing? No, this is the 538 average of all the polls that they've like graded and regraded. And so I always think of like what my junior year sociology professor said first day of class was 68.7 of all statistics are inaccurate. Right.

It's funny. The polling though, there was a, I think on Talking Points, someone was analyzing the polls to see exactly where the shift happened. And it was the day after the quote unquote transcript summary of the call came out is when things went from before that there was a whistleblower, there was no movement. Yeah. Then that came out. And that's when even the Republican side started swinging.

So even then, I mean, like maybe the approval might be right, but maybe some people can't feel like, I like him, but maybe he shouldn't be president. Do you approve? What's that word mean? Right. Approve what? Approve.

Yes, he is the president. I approve of that. I can prove that. That is a fact that I approve of there's a uh opinion piece in the washington post at the end of last week uh from a guy who worked at the cia is the coo at lawfare which is like a security national security and it's like the cia light yeah yeah those are calories uh but he was saying that basically he's pointing out how all the assumptions that say the senate would never remove him from office are using clinton

and johnson like the last the other two people who had who were impeached and they weren't really doing crimes they were just weren't really doing crimes he points out that johnson's crimes included speaking ill of congress in public shit man i did that i've done that i've done that i'll be honest clinton's acquittal yeah i've done that we don't have to edit this leave this in you've done you're guilty i did i've done that i don't have to edit this leave this in this and you've done your guilt i did i've done that i've and then clinton perjured himself but he was also but i was just trying to get my dick sucked it was a personal it was perjury about a personal thing and not something that was based on the presidency yeah he was like listen getting dome yeah i'm done at president at five o'clock. Right.

If I'm getting dumb at 501. What is the problem? Shut your mouth. Right. Even though I'm coercing a young intern into doing it. Yeah. So, I mean, he's just saying, you know, and then if approval ratings fall and support for impeachment continues to rise, then he could definitely see it go in the other direction. That Republicans would remove him.

Would remove him. I mean, because that's the thing. At a certain point, right? If is this really are y'all willing to make your last stand on this? This is the leader going into it? I don't know. Yeah. Because if you really if we're really going to completely rat fuck the Constitution like

that, then who's to say that he wouldn't just be your forever leader? Right. And I don't think they want to hitch their wagon to that star. Well, I think they saw that. I think he really showed his true cards in the turkey dip. Well, yeah, just how completely out of it. I think that's where the GOP was like, oh shit, there's no line.

He doesn't even get like honor or any, just basic sort of allegiances. I think the Turkey thing was just about him, basically them, you know, they can't turn on him yet on the impeachment stuff. So they realize, well, we can shit on him with regards to his, you know, treating the parents like shit. But it is objectively such a stupid, fucked up thing to do. Oh, totally. But I just think that it was like people's opportunity to turn on him

without, so I guess it goes back to what this guy is saying that like. It was like when how the Popeye's chicken sandwich came out like a few days after Jay-Z signed the deal with the NFL and people were like, you know what? I'm going to put all my energy into the Popeye's chicken sandwich came out like a few days after Jay-Z signed the deal with the NFL and people were like, you know what, I'm going to put all my energy into the Popeye's chicken sandwich because I don't want to talk about the NFL thing with Jay-Z anymore.

I don't want to think about that. That's exactly right. It's a Popeye's Jay-Z situation. Dude, it's called an outrage transfer, dude, like a fucking half-pipe transfer. Yeah. It's a communicative property. Somewhere in a political science class.

Somebody just wrote that down. Oh, that's known as the Popeye's Jayay-z popeyes jay-z outrage transfer just it's gonna be the principal of outrage of outrage transfer regeneration is gonna be called the wag the dogs like oh that's the papa jay-z the pop the pop z uh lindsey graham had some interesting things to say about turkey to turkey in fact on a prank phone call that came from. So basically, Vladimir Putin prank called Lindsey Graham. Yeah, basically. The Russian equivalent of the jerky boys who many people suspect have like Kremlin backing.

Cool. Because their whole thing is. That's awesome. They prank call, you know, really prominent politicians and shit and get him to say stuff they asked adam schiff if like he wanted nude pictures of donald trump and his answer was like yeah let me um let me refer you to the fbi so you can get those to me right was like lindsey graham said that no no that's adam schiff when he was asked about like when they pranked him he was like of course uh let me direct you to the fbi yeah. So Lindsey Graham, on the other hand, was much messier.

He basically said, like, look, the president. Who did he think he was talking to? Turkish defense minister. Okay. He said, I'm the Turkish defense minister. He was like, sure you are. I totally believe you. And then he proceeded to talk to him and say, the president and I are with you when it comes to the Kurds being threats.

These are supposed to be our allies. And Lindsey Graham's like, yeah, me and the president get it. You got to kill these fuckers, basically, is where he was coming from. He was definitely appeasing. Yeah, appeasing. And then also kept talking about the, quote, Turkish bank case. Yeah, there's an interest in it. Trump has an interest. Trump has an interest in a Turkish bank case. And people are trying to figure out what that is.

They think it refers to a U.S. case involving Reza Zarrab, an Iranian-Turkish gold trader and client of Trump's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani, man. He's a great skunk where it's been. He must be raking in the fucking money the way he's probably fleecing all these people. He's like, oh yeah, I can handle that. I wonder if he's going to say that he took him down on purpose from the inside.

Oh, he's a Mr. Flip. He'll have to. I mean, he took down the mafia, then became the mafia. Right. And then will become, oh, I'll help take him down Mr. Flip. He'll have to. I mean, he took down the mafia then became the mafia. Right. And then will become, oh, I helped take him down again.

Yeah. That's right. That's why I should be president. And then he'll buy Epstein's Island. Right. And he's like, but look,

I have a Yankees World Series ring that I wear all the time. Ah, he's a fucking... When he, when he, when he like does these interviews and his fucking gaudy rings

come into frame, you're like, dude, he just looked like a mob fucking... He looks like a Dick Tracy character., dude, he just looked like a mob fucking. He looks like a Dick Tracy character. He really is starting to look like a Dick Tracy character. What would his name be?

It would be the guy who puts in his AirPods upside down. Like, that's his thing. It's like, it's him, upside down pod. Wait, is there a picture of him with the AirPods upside down? Yes, he flipped the shit so the fucking mic was going up like an old FM radio headset. He's hammered drunk all the time. I know.

Just drunk constantly. His office is a cigar bar. Yeah, right. At 666 Fifth Avenue. Is it? Yeah. Oh, I wasn't there last month. I wish I would have known that.

I would have tried to go up there. I was right by there the last month. Yeah, that cigar bar there, he hangs out, and that's where he always talks about how he's going to fucking, the president ain't gonna fuck him. I'll do a podcast. That's my favorite thing I keep hearing about. The writing's getting lazy, guys. Could we? Could I pitch a podcast

with Rudy Giuliani? Yes. If I could make that happen? You think Amart Media would be like, yeah, we're in on that. I mean, you'd probably, it would be a democracy, or if we want to call this a democracy, but a republic-saving podcast where you'd probably, it would be a democracy, or I mean, if we want to call this a democracy, but a republic-saving podcast where you'd probably, he'd think you're so funny, and then tell you the

most awful shit, and just give it all up. He's like, then you gotta know about Trump. He's like, are these mics off? And you're like, yes, Rudy. Sure, man. But hold on, hold on, let me, just get a little bit closer. Okay, so, here's the deal. These are off, you know? Like, those mics are off. Those mics right there are off. these ones are on and so is my phone we're live on instagram

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I just say that to everything now. Damn. You just hate to see it. Yeah. It's tough. I just say that to everything now. Damn. You just hate to see it. You really do. Is that good? If I haven't been listening to you, I'm going to respond with, oh, is that good? And also, oh, that sucks, man. Oh, dude, that fucking sucks, dude.

Did you eat it? What? What? I have an ear infection. Did you try to eat it? Is it good? I have an ear infection. Did you try to eat it? Is it good? Is that good? What's the texture like? Let's talk cruise ships and why I will never go on one.

I, for one, will go on a cruise ship. I don't give a fuck. I love these things. Do you? Yes. Really? Yeah. It's not about-

Do you drink? Yes. Okay. Well, we have the answer. Right. Okay. That's always the people that like it. They're always like, no, they're fun. I'm like, do you blackout drink? They're Okay, well, we have the answer. Right. Okay. That's always the people that like it. They're always like, no, they're fun.

I'm like, do you blackout drink? They're like, yes. Exactly. What's blackout drink? You don't know what that is? No, I just, this is how I have a good time. That's why you can still drink. I have a good time.

You don't know what that is. I have a good time. I drink, I wake up, and then Her Majesty's like, you need to apologize to a few people. Yeah. And I was like, what happened? Is that blackout? Do you not remember?

No. Oh, yeah. That's called drinking though, right? Everybody forget it? That's what I thought for a long time and then some people told me that it's bad. They introduced themselves by their first name. Yes.

First name, last initial. No, they just had their first initial, last name on their ID badge. That's who were like, this is bad. No, no. Why. They just had their first initial last name on their ID badge. That's who were like, this is bad. No, no. Why do you have a gun? That actually did scare the shit out of me because I used to, when I would drink, I would sleepwalk and just like would be out on my feet basically. That's blacking out.

You can call it sleepwalking. Believe it or not, I'm blacking out. I would get up from being passed out and just like wander around and like fall down stairs and shit. Yeah, yeah. And I was always certain that I would fall off a cruise ship

if I ever went on one. Oh, wow. Fuck yeah, you would, yeah. Well, good thing you're dry now. That's like the perfect spot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is definitely how I would have.

If your wife is ever like, we need to go drinking on the cruise ship. Looking like Rose and Titanic on that first scene when you're feet on the belt on the rail till I come like, hey need to go drink on the cruise ship. Looking like Rose and Titanic on that first scene when you feed on the belt and the rail. Sign this contract. That's how I would have gone. It's not even

the drinking part. It's that everything is self-contained and you end up going to different places while having the illusion of never leaving somewhere. It's because I'm very lazy. Yeah.

But with bad stand-up comedy. Yes. And sometimes good ones, actually. No, I have some friends that do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all right. Would you ever do a cruise gig? The right one?

I've been doing stand-up comedy long enough to know the answer to that. For the right amount of money, I'll do fucking anything. Right. Yeah. You'll do the QAnon festival. I'll just stand up in a bikini on a rich guy's yacht. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. Anyway. Jeff Bezos will be calling you shortly. Yes, and I bet he pays better than anyone's ever paid me. Right. What'd you wear? Nothing. I didn't wear anything.

I didn't even have to worry about that. Just had to dance around a little bit. I had to wear a bunch of those prime dash buttons. You gotta be naked. And I was like, cool. I didn't want to think about what I had to wear. It's the easiest gig I've ever had. So on this Norwegian cruise, right, these people signed up for a two-week cruise

that was supposed to go, like, stop off in Amsterdam and go to Iceland. And, like, a lot of people were really into the iceland part so they got the fucking over of a lifetime when it basically didn't stop at a single fucking place it was supposed to on the day they're supposed to go to amsterdam they were like hey the weather is too fucked up i don't have any weed they're out of weed so we're not even gonna stop we're gonna go to new jersey yeah so when they got there they're like look we're gonna have to go to normandy and then when they got to norm, they're like, look, we're going to have to go to Normandy. And then when they got to Normandy, they're like, actually, we got to cancel because the weather is too bad.

And like, what the fuck? So people were like, fine, whatever, we get it. They're like, as long as we get to Iceland. So instead of going to the place where weed and shrooms are legal, you go to the place where you think about the deadliest day in the history of the human civilization. Remember the most shaking part of Saving Private Ryan? We're going to go there. Yeah, the part that made you throw up for multiple reasons. This is the start of the movie.

Jesus Christ. Guys, just get off in your landing craft. We're going to Omaha Beach. Why is Grandpa crying at the movie? Oh, he kept saying something about Dog Green Sector. So when they get there they they were like okay no no fucking uh normandy whatever we just want to go to iceland then they get there uh when they're about to go to iceland like look we're really sorry we actually go there we have to cancel this

we're gonna go to more towns in norway and they go to these we're in a warehouse in long beach we never left we just rock the the warehouse every now and just a huge projection screen around you um and so they got to they get to these towns in Norway that are like you're in a Chevy commercial they're like these people can't believe how fuck their cruise was these are not actors uh when they get there they're going to towns that have already closed up for the tourist season. So there's like one stop just had a grocery store open. And they're like, what the fuck is this? There's not even anything to do.

I'm going to interrupt again. I would love to go on this cruise. Because as someone that hates them, watching people that are like, I love to go where the shops are and see the stuff things. And you don't even have to get next to the real people that live there because it's like. It's all quarantined after. Roped off so you can get your fudge and not have to feel awkward speaking Spanish or something. Right, right. And then I'm just there eating edibles being like, everyone's so mad.

This is awesome. Just like watching from the upper deck. Did he do this? Why is he laughing so mad this is awesome just like watching from like the upper decks like what is did he do this why is he laughing so hard i'm just like cry laughing that's where it got to though because the fucking toilet stopped working and then the food went stale and the people started fucking like taking the like main communal spaces and like chanting like refund and getting in like the administrator lord of the flies turned quick yeah but it's funny because you always hear about these like awful cruise ship things were like and sewage was coming out of everywhere right um the fucking true kick in the balls comes in the form of like the letter that they gave to passengers and like you know unfortunately like there was

bad weather and sometimes that happens because we put the safety of our passengers and our crew first that's why we didn't do it. We were looking out for you guys. To make up for this, we are willing to offer you 25% off your next cruise booking that has to be used in 24 months. That's a pretty good deal. Wow. What a fuck. I mean, I would have just started stealing shit off the fucking boat.

Oh, yeah. Everything. I'll tell you what we're going to do. I know you're standing in your own face right now, but I'll tell you what we're going to do. I want a refund. yeah everything tell you what we're gonna do i know you're standing in your own face right now but i'll tell you what we're gonna do i want a refund we do what you want to do we're gonna give you a spoon let you eat your own shit oh my god pretty good deal branda free spoon what's the alternative no spoon okay let's take the spoon you hang it yeah let's talk about drive-thrus miles this is fucked with me man drive-thrus might be bad for the world or not

i don't know that's like the gist is because there's apparently been a no no here here's the thing okay i'm gonna before we even say it's not straws it's not the drive-thru it's the food that is being served there it is these giant mega corporations oil corporations yeah uh that's who's truly killing us it's not that we use too many goddamn straws yeah it's that they're putting people up under profits yeah That's all it is. People over profits. Whatever. You know what I mean? Yes. See, that's the problem.

That's why I can't be a politician. There'll always be somebody like, what, you meant to say this? I'm like, okay, I'm sorry. I think it works either way. But you know what I mean. I don't. I'm a rabble rouser from the crowd.

I just don't. What about it? You said a word wrong. It's like those... Go to episode 42 of Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah, that would be like, no, I couldn't ever be a politician. I think you probably could, or people like us could, because you're not going to hide anything.

You're like, yeah, look, I'm a human being who says stuff. Oh, yeah. I'm not here to pretend. Hey, did you ever have sex? Yeah, check out my second album I talk all about. Yeah, your oppo research is in the form of my stand-up. My friend put his finger in his pee hole. It was pretty funny.

I'm sorry, you want to be president? Yeah. No, I'm good at policy and motivating people, and I understand military strategy really well. But also I have friends that put their finger in their pee hole. You ever seen this? It's pretty funny. Hey, who else has that in their wheelhouse, huh?

That's what I'm saying. As a leader, I can say I've seen something like that. I think that if anyone in Georgia would be Bush, probably. Oh, my God, yeah. I've seen that. Well, this whole like – Clinton's over there like, I can do it. See?

Feels good. Fucking put three in there. So Minneapolis became the latest city to – they're passing ordinances that are banning the construction of new drive-thru windows. And it's happening like Long Beach and New Jersey, parts of Missouri. But the reasons they're saying is about like pollution to cut down on pollution or like obesity. But here's the deal. Like you're saying, these are just very like topical Band-Aid fixes to like the ship is sinking.

Let's put a Band-Aaid on like this one part well I know had even I understand the thought process though is like to make these things visible at your daily life so you become where on this bigger scale of what's happening yeah there's a that this Los Gatos California which is like a little enclave in Silicon Valley. It's where a lot of CEOs live. We have an aunt that lives there. They don't have the cats. Yes.

Your aunt is Nan Pierce from Succession. I'd be cool. She is cool, though. But it's my aunt-in-law. But they don't have drive-thrus at these. Right. And they don't have many uh people well they don't have many uh fast food places either so it's just like they're not that busy you have to go in it

cuts down on all that shit because the whole thing is convenience well the thing they point to right because they tried this in south la and the data showed that obesity rates went up even when trying to do this because a lot of people end up like it's not that it's the drive-through that's even enabling at times sometimes it's just the cheap most affordable food you can eat so really there are other factors that are actually in play to this so it's like that's really not it that's like really oversimplifying this kind of issue that's really what's going to happen because yeah the rates climbed over the three years that they were actually like analyzing the data and also i think they should go the other way and you should be able to drive

up and they put the food in your mouth for you that's coming yeah that's called platinum service just like a t-shirt came in with a big mac like okay unhinge your jaw sir the thing that they also point to also uh that who have analyzed these kinds of things is that even though if you can you know dissuade someone from just like passively like being in their car and getting uh like having a drive-thru option a lot of people just might go through like an uber eats or a grub hub so which is actually even worse for the environment if you're now sending more people on the road to get your food. So there's like a lot of things where people are kind of cutting the data up and being like, I don't, is that the problem? Is that really what's going to happen?

Is it the drive-through that's causing the pollution? Is it the lack of regulation around emissions? That's the problem. But it's sort of, sort of speaking to your point is that I think these sort of ordinances have the feel of doing something well, but without sort of completely, I think, objectively looking at the drivers of the kinds of things they're trying to fix. Yeah. We've just got to make a colossal change as a species. Yeah.

Well, hopefully we'll see. It might happen one way or the other. And I don't know if you've read history. We're so good at collectively doing stuff like that. Yeah. Oh,'ve read history we're so good at collectively doing stuff like that yeah oh yeah and we're so good at like repeating it too we're good at it when it's like too late yeah no yeah that's what it is oh this hurts they turned off the power we should pay they're like damn that red notice on the door was serious huh yeah i mean we have the money that's not even the thing.

That's not the problem. I was just like, they'll probably give me a couple more days. I just don't want to go to the place. I'm curious, Billy, to ask you about this thing in Georgia that's happening with snakehead fish. I don't know where. Okay, so there's been a proliferation of snakeheads. Hell yeah. Which are fish that can breathe outside of water.

What? Yes. Yeah? Yes. Yeah, man. Like for like a brief period, but they have the capability of surviving above the water. And like, I guess they were really popular in aquariums, but they started like showing up in Gwinnett County or something in lakes

because they suspect a lot of people were just dumping them into the, like most species that are foreign. People just dump their shit. Like all of the Everglades are fucking pythons now. Right. Right. Yes. So with this one, they were very, like, the state of Georgia just put out this instructions

to people if they come across these fish that just says, what should you do if you find a snakehead? Anglers are the first line of defense. If you think you've caught a northern snakehead, one, all caps read, do not release it. Two, kill it immediately and freeze it. They can survive on land. And freeze it. Yes.

Yeah, man. Three, if possible, take pictures of the fish. Include close-ups of its mouth, fins, and tail. Four, note where it was caught, like the water body, landmarks, or GPS coordinates. Immediately report it to the Regional Georgia DNR Wildlife Resources Division Fisheries Office. So a lot of the people are saying that you know when they think about these new invasive species obviously one version is like ah it's probably fine but they are just so unwilling because they're like the second you introduce something like this it's going to fuck the whole

food chain up no matter what because it all at one segment it's going to disrupt things and i'm not very familiar with angling or fishing, but I guess that the people who are out there are probably like, if these fish are fucking up my bass fishing or something, then yeah, maybe it's good to enlist the anglers. Well, I think the misconception that a lot of people that want to protect the environment and animals have against hunters is that they're not conservationists. Like most people I know that hunt and fish care more about the environment than most people i know right because they're out in it every day i mean there

are the are like i'm gonna kill as much as i can right how did the army miss you right right right but like these people i think what they understand i don't know if you've ever traveled through this out there's this uh uh plant called kudzu yeah it's from that covers everything and it just they can't kill it the fun thing is now there's little festivals popping up because they can eat it and all this but they can't kill it it just covers everything it looks cool yeah but then you realize they can't stop it right so that's i think that people probably see that right and then they look in the Everglades. Right.

And they're just wiping out all the other species. Yeah. Because they're not supposed to be there. And they have no, and these motherfuckers can live on land. Yeah. I'm watching a video of one just walk, basically it's like flopping across land like a snake and going into the water. I think that's more the thing to be like, listen,

kill it, because if it goes walking on land and like your grandmother or some religious person sees it, we're fucked. They don't need to see stuff like this because they're like, this is the end times. Right, smash the snake head fish. He's right, the preacher man's right. The orange one brought the serpents.

Billy Wayne, it's been a pleasure having you. It always is. Where can people find you, follow you? Instagram and Twitter at Billy Wayne Davis. I am going on tour very soon. This week I am doing a Live Behind the Bastards in Portland on Thursday. With Robert Evans? With Robert Evans.

And I think that's sold out. It's a smaller place, though, and we didn't know that it would do so well. So thank you, guys. And then Friday I'm in Salem doing stand-up. And Saturday I'm in Eugene doing stand-up. And then I'm back in the Northwest in Seattle November 1st and 2nd, Atlanta, Houston, and some other places. BWDtour.com.

Thank you for letting me get that spiel out. No, of course, man. My babies appreciate it. Pull up for Billy Wayne. Please do. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? He hasn't had a phone, man. That's right.

What about an old folk song you've been singing to yourself? What I do do, and my wife pointed it out today is uh the band huba stank is uh i don't i couldn't name one of their songs i don't know what they but i use it as like a mantra when i'm playing with my son i'm just like saying like just like huba stank have you heard this line i'm not a perfect person yeah is that who they are yeah that's them then you do know who but i but if you played that i'd be like who what's the name of that and i say that name all and i think it comes from that just galifianakis is his monologue on snl both times he was like and welcome your musical guest who wasobastank, and they're like, no. He's like, oh, okay. And then the second time he's like,

Hoobastank, and they're like, no. He's like, still no? Still no. Miles, where can people find you? Find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. A couple tweets that I like. First one is from Rob Delaney, at Rob Delaney.

Very simple. I've had sex. Hell yeah, Rob. And also another one from Ariana Lenarski at Delaney. Very simple. I've had sex. Hell yeah, Rob. And also another one from Ariana Lenarski at Ardvarsk. When British people see the word mom, how does it make them feel? Because when we see mum, we secretly lose our shit and picture the 1700s. That's true.

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This is a collabo between a group called Marabou State and the band Kruangbin, who we've played here a few times before. It's a good meeting of rhythms. It's just got that very Psyche feel. Plus, it's just something to get the week started on. Not too low, but not too intense. You know what I mean? And it's called Feel Good. Feel Good, guys.

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