The Daily Zeitgeist - Perfect ClickBait, No Place Like Clone 6.10.19

Episode Date: June 10, 2019

In episode 409, Miles and special guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by comedian and Las Culturistas co-host Matt Rogers to discuss Nancy Pelosi delaying a Trump impeachment, The Intercept's Ryan Grim's new book about the Bret Kavanaugh hearings, Barbara Streisand posting photos of her clone dogs, Jezebel's list of actors who are actually not good performers, Beyonce's publicist telling the beyhive to leave Nicole Curran alone, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Pelosi tells Dems she wants to see Trump ‘in prison’2. Impeach Trump on the day before the election3. Democratic Leaders’ Reluctance to Wage Kavanaugh Fight Looks Even Worse Today4. Barbra Streisand's Dogs: We Miss Our Dead Clone Mom5. Actors Who Are Bad at Acting6. Beyoncé's Publicist Politely Asks the Beyhive to Stop Bullying Nicole Curran7. WATCH: The Frightnrs "Dispute" (dub version) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever

you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello? Who's that? Oh, it's the internet iHeart Women's Sports. Hello? Who's that? Huh? Oh, it's the internet. Thank God it's you. Okay, what, you probably want to listen to the podcast? Well, here we go. Welcome to Season 86, Episode 1 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio.

And y'all already know, it's a podcast where we take a deep look into America's weird old fucked up brain and say off the rip, fuck coke industries and fuck Fox News. Controversial, Miles. I know. I know. It's Monday, June 10th, 2019. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Here comes the hot stepper.

Murderer. I'm the daily zeitgeist. Murderer. Excuse me, Mr. Officer. Murderer. Please don't harass me because I'm black. Murderer. I had to

kind of miss, edit the last part. When I said excuse me, Mr. Officer, it didn't feel right to say still live in my house. Please stop harassing me. Yes, no, I'm not on probation. No, I don't have a gun, which is the first question they always ask you. And also, why are you in this part of town?

Because I live here. Okay, bye. That, aka, comes from Sabrina Mancuso. Ask Sabrina Mancuso. Good name. Good, good, good Italian name. Sabrina Mancuso. Hey, I love you. You know, where are you from?

Let me know. Oh, wait. Italian-Argentinian, fluent in Franglish and Span-Italian. Just looking at her bio. I'm looking at her bio. Do you have people's bios on the internet? I just had to right now. She has an Italian flag, an Argentinian flag, and a Canadian flag.

Oh, Canada. I like when you're enjoying someone's Twitter profile and then you go and then the bio is like, Wanderlust. Right. Hufflepuff. Hufflepuff. I have a short circuit. My blood pressure bursts out of my body.

That, if you're a Starbucks, you're like a Starbucks, like struggling Starbucks addict. In recovery. In recovery, doing well. Join me on my journey. And I'm sure you already recognize that voice because Jack, right, he is on assignment right now. Still looking for, he found the Crocs he was looking for, but now there's some Tevas, he said, that there was a collab with Coors Light Tevas that he was looking for. He found the Crocs he was looking for, but now there's some Tevas, he said, that there was a collab with Coors Light Tevas that he was looking for. I don't know, he just sends these

walls of texts, and I'm like, I can be there. Yeah, just like, send up the bad signal. Continue on your journey, Mr. O'Brien. Thank you so much. Well, that is my guest co-host, you already know. The one and only, the legendary Yammy Loftus, Jamie Loftus. A.K.A. Big Little

Loftus? Oh! Wow. Okay. Big Little Loftus? Oh, wow. Okay. I figured I'd try it out. Okay, here comes the song. Or you mean really, A.K.A. What? Oh. Oh.

She's back to text, and comedy. She must confess, Zamboni. Zamboni. Dentist sneezing, and her hacking lies. Takesambonics. Sambonics. Dentist sneezing into hacking lies. Takes all the time.

Third guest Jamie on Zeitgeist. Wow. So there you go. Dropped a fucking bomb on that one. Thank you. Went all the way up into my nasal passages for that one. Wow.

I feel, I'm blessed. Also, you had a little bit of range there. Went all the way up into my nasal passages for that one. Wow. Okay. I feel I'm blessed. Also, you had a little bit of range there. I was not ready for that. Thank you. I had a solo in eighth grade. Oh, shit. Well.

And don't you forget it. I will never, ever forget. That was from Taylor Lang at Listen to Blazer. At Listen to Blazer. Yeah. Okay. Fine. I'll read her bio. let's see what it is multi-instrumentalist singer songwriter terrible dancer love it oh great you know what i accept it

as long as you know what you're good at and what you're not so good at if you're if it's devoid of wanderlust i'm open um well we are joined it's an honor to be joined by just a legendary, hilarious person, comedian, writer, podcaster, with a podcast that, you know... A legendary podcast, dare I say. Way better than ours. Come on. It's Jack's favorite podcast, and he's really mad he's not here. And you know what?

That's just how the universe works sometimes. Yep. Please, please welcome our guest today, Mr. Matt Rogers. Wow. Hi. Hi. Truly, how are you guys? Very good.

It seems like you guys are good. The energy is crack-a-lacking. Yeah, we like to do it like that. All three of us have cold brew crack. We all do, and I look forward to, in the next 10, 15 minutes, this getting to be too much. Yes, good, good, good. And can we talk about these? I don't want to say the brand.

I don't want to put anyone on blast. No, we do. We say the brand? We say brands here. Okay, so this is Kirkland Signature Cold Brew blast. No, we do. We say the brand? We say brands here. Okay, so this is Kirkland Signature Cold Brew Coffee. We're drinking 100% Colombian, okay? And it's shocking to the first taste.

It's just not the... But I know it's going to work. It's really strong. What were you expecting? I'm feeling it. I don't know. And I don't ever know what I expect when I start drinking cold brew. But I know what's going to happen every time is I will become a killing machine, a la Scarlett Johansson and Lucy.

You know how in that movie she used 100% of her brain? That is me when I'm on cold brew, but using 100% of my brain means I'm even more aggressively a gay dumb idiot. I'm going to check in with you from time to time to see how much your brain. So what are we at right now? You're at 2% brain function right now? Let's say I'm at like a 14%. I think it's about to be in with you from time to time to see how much your brain. So what are we at right now? You're at 2% brain function right now? 10? Let's say I'm at like a 14%. Oh, shit.

I think it's about to kick in. Also, I want to just say your resonance when you were singing was really huge. That was amazing. That was great. And I'm really envious of you right now because my voice sounds like a frog-a-log because last night I was at the Troye Sivan, Charli XCX concert screaming, screaming, screaming, screaming, screaming. Where was that?

It was at the Wiltern. Wow. And the last time I had been at the Wiltern, I saw the Countess Luann from Real Housewives of New York. Wow. Money can't buy you class. And it can't. No.

Love that song, though. You can't say she doesn't speak truth. Who has the best song of all the Housewives? Did you like Kim's track? I would see. I wasn't Did you like Kim's track? See, I wasn't that down for Kim's track. I think that it's actually an unfair comparison because Erika Jayne is like a real pop star. I think Erika, we have to...

She's done. She's how many fucks do I need? And I am obsessed with that. That's such a good song. That's a real banger. She has so many bangers, but I will say Chic C'est La Vie,

C'est Bon, C'est Bon. Yeah. By the Countess Luanne is, and when it, when it played at the Wiltern, and I'm telling you, it was like, it was like,

it was like Bon Jovi was playing like, Living on a Prayer. Wow. It was truly like the place, exploded, like Chic C'est La Vie, everyone, like every 45 year old woman and gayyear-old, their twink.

Was it her? Was it her show? It was her. Well, the show is called The Countess and Friends. Okay. So, you know, she brings out her friends. Yeah. And I don't know.

I was clear she didn't know any of them. And you know who's done her show? Catherine Cohen. No way. Has opened for her. And so it's like Friends is very loose. I think they've had a half a conversation. I mean, that's a good show? Catherine Cohen. No way. Has opened for her. And so it's like, Friends is very loose. I think they've had a half a conversation. That's,

I mean, that's a good fit though. Very good fit. That's amazing. Yeah. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. Get to know me.

Yeah, we're going to have to. Right now, you said 14% brain function right now? Well, I'm now at 17. Oh, shit.

Okay. What happened was, we said Countess Luann, and my blood started running quicker. So now the cold brew is running through my veins. Getting through your system. Yeah. Well, I'll update you system. I'll update you guys. I'll update you guys.

All right. Well, let's talk a little bit about what we're going to get into. First of all, Jamba Juice. New look, new you. We'll get into that. What that entails. Not that much. But, you know, I like to keep my eye on these brands.

You really? Yeah. I mean, you insisted on this one. Yeah. Because I only go to, you know, dining establishments that are available anywhere in the United States. Right. So I never feel alone dining establishments that are available anywhere in the United States. Right. So I never feel alone.

I hate small business. If I can't get it off a shopping mall in Barstow, then I'm not fucking with it. You know where I electric scootered last night after the concert?

Wait, what brand of scooter? I don't know. I've never done this before. I always found it on the show. You're like, I don't know, I just pushed somebody off.

I was with my friend. I just fucking, I killed someone last night with a scooter. I was with my friend Jared and after fucking, I killed someone last night with a scooter. I was with my friend Jared, and after the concert, we were hungry, and he found me these electric scooters. I didn't even know this was a thing. Right.

It's not a thing in New York, but you can electric scooter everywhere in LA, I guess. And we electric scootered to Denny's at one in the morning. Hell yeah. Yeah. And this morning, I found my first two gray hairs, which I think is the universe saying, okay, bitch. It connected. Stop. Yeah. We're doing too much. We're the universe saying, okay, bitch. It connected. Stop.

Yeah. Like, we can't be electric scootering to Denny's at 1 a.m. At 1 a.m. We're not 14. Oh, God. I used to work near a college, and I would get hit by electric scooters all the time. Very gentle bump.

Ooh. Gentle bump, really. No complaints. I like it. Oh, you didn't just, like, clothesline somebody after? No, no, no. Watch where the fuck you're going. It's just 19-year-olds late to their midterms.

Those scooters in New York will get you. I feel like the people in New York will just kill you. No, forget it. It shouldn't happen. We also shouldn't have City Bike, but that's a whole traffic lane thing. Yeah. Get it together, De Blasio.

Don't get me started. Fix the MTA first. Yeah, De Blasio running for president. It's like our city is melting. Right. Every person in New York is like, why the fuck is he going to run for president? He can't even get the fucking city together. It's like, our city is melting. Right. Every person in New York's like, why the fuck is he gonna run for president?

He can't even get the fucking city together. It is the funniest thing and also when they announced on The View that he was running for president, they couldn't even do the segment because they were laughing too hard.

Everyone in the audience was like, are you fucking kidding? It was so funny. Oh, we're also gonna talk about some tales of just Democrat fucking up shit, not in the good way type stories like come the fuck on yeah democratic leadership what the fuck are y'all doing

uh checking in with barbara streisand and her clone dogs because it's always a fun story this is a story that jamie specifically wanted to discuss because you were on matt about this jezebel list of terrible actors are they or't they? I'm so excited to get into this. I was the perfect guest. And then a little bit of update on the poor, unfortunate soul who decided to lean across Beyonce's lap and got the fucking hive. But first, Matt, what's something from your search history that reveals a little bit about who you are?

So I just mentioned The View. That is because I watch The View every day. So I don't really do Google search history as much as I go to my YouTube and I kind of refresh it to see what their recommendations for me are. And it's always like what's happened on The View that day and also like this is insane but construction progress on theme park attractions. Oh, I get theme park attraction stuff too. I'm very into roller coaster YouTube.

Oh, can you tell people what... Did somebody tweet at you? I remember someone tweeted and you said, what's that channel that you watch to fall asleep to? Tell people right now. I watch Defunctland. I love Defunctland. Isn't it great?

Yeah, I love it. I'm so embarrassed to admit it, but I'm like, I think everyone watches it. No, we're in a community together. And I would say that everyone should come out. Everyone needs to come out of the closet. What is Defunctland? So basically it's like you, it looks at, it's like a series, a video channel that looks

at like old theme park attractions. Okay. And it gets into the history of them and then it kind of just like talks about how they were developed and why they didn't work or like what the story is with them. It's pretty cool. Like there's like a, you know what old theme park attraction I'm obsessed with? It's called Alien Encounter.

It was in the Magic Kingdom in Tomorrowland. So this was like, and you can really go down a rabbit hole about this particular theme park attraction. This is insane that I'm getting into this, but it was a terrifying experience in tomorrowland in the magic kingdom which is very much a park for children but they made a risk and they were like we want to do a scary thing and so they were going to make a theme park

attraction based on the movie alien oh so the fucking movie alien they made a ride after yes because disney was attached to it and so um they ended up sort of doing it and they realized, no, this is going to be way too scary. So they kind of made like an alternate version of it, which no one knew but was the most terrifying thing ever. It's got a pre-show that has Tyra Banks, which is my favorite thing about it. And then you basically go into this circular room and they put a restraint on you and the ride the it's a like a show really but you're strapped into a chair oh my god and so what they claim that they're gonna do is they're gonna show you like a teleportation they're gonna like beam in someone from another galaxy into the space and it's the mistake that the thing that

goes awry is it's a vicious alien and then they do that sort of sensory stuff where you can feel it breathing on your neck and sliming on you and literally someone dies in it and blood sprays and this is in the magic kingdom wow so this was an attraction in the 90s and they eventually shut it down because of guest complaints but it's like a beloved um theme park attraction um in for a certain type of person who is gagged that they ever would do that. Right, right, right. But I believe Defunctland did a series on it.

They did, yeah. I'm waiting for them to make a video about the Aerosmith roller coaster. Absolutely. Because I like... Well, that still stands. Yes. Where is that?

I love the Aerosmith. Hollywood Studios. I love it. It's such a good roller coaster. See, I haven't been to any of those Orlando theme parks. You must go because they have been revolutionized in the past 10 years. I love the, it's such a good roller coaster. See, I haven't been to any of those Orlando themed parks. You must go because they have been revolutionized in the past 10 years.

I mean, you go there and they are, it's just like, you can't believe, first of all, the production value, honey.

It is a show. It is, you are thoroughly entertained and you must go see the Harry Potter stuff. Okay. Yes. I'm in.

Oh, wait, I've got, yeah, I've got a season pass, Miles, so I can get discounted passes if you ever want to come. Wow. Are you going to, weird flex, but okay. I'm in. Oh wait, I've got a season pass so I can get discounted passes if you ever want to come.

Are you going to go to Galaxy's Edge? Yes. So that's current events as well. I'm trying to restrain myself because I will spend $7,000 in there. I mean, off the strength of everything. I'll go to theme parks that I don't care about the IP it's based

on. I'm not a big Star Wars fan, but I really want'll go to theme parks that I don't care about the IP it's based on. Like I'm not a big Star Wars fan but I really want to go to Galaxy's Edge. Like immersive experiences. No for me that's like a full fever dream because I'm like

a theme park person and a Star Wars person so I'm like really freaking out and also this ride that they're going to open later in the year called Rise of the Resistance

is apparently like out of control. I started reading the first half of the description and I had to stop because I'm like okay this is already pushing the boundaries of what of the description and I had to stop because I'm like, okay, this is already pushing the boundaries

of what a ride is. And I also don't want to spoil it for myself because I know if I'm actually experiencing it firsthand, I probably will just faint. Well, it's allegedly almost 20 minutes long. Yeah. Really? Yeah.

And it's more than one style of ride. Yes, you change vehicles. I'm so excited. Which has never been done. I didn't know that. That's amazing. Did you hear about the Kylo Ren animatronic? No.

No. Wow. Like Apple Adam Driver? No. I know. That's why I stopped- It is an Adam Driver that is going to come all the way up to you, honey. No.

And try to kill you. Oh, fuck that. And there are life size AT-ATs right the fact that Adam Driver has been immortalized

in this way it's insane and it doesn't make sense the first time we ever saw him he like came on Lena Dunham and now he is

the Star Wars villain he is it's so I watched we're doing an episode on f*** today and I was like oh he was in

fucking that movie too in Fedora the whole time and you're just like five years later right he literally rose to fame as the weirdest

fuckboy in Brooklyn and now he is the villain of Star Wars he is in a Disney attraction forever I look forward

to a very thoughtful essay on that one day listen I might write it today. If I keep drinking this cold brew. I'm at 36% right now. Oh, shit.

You're not even going to understand the book I write. It's going to be too smart. It's going to be a genius essay on. Galaxy brain. Yes. Matt, what's something that's underrated? Okay, what's underrated is the new Katy Perry song Never Really Over because it is

everywhere anyway for me it is an earworm but it is not the number one song in the country and that is why it's underrated I'm telling you I couldn't have thought someone was more dead in this town than Katy Perry like her going to American Idol was so sad and I was just like that's crazy that you

can be truly Katy Perry biggest pop star in the world. And then like whatever happened with that last album, Witness. Right. Like that was like, that was like, it was like what everyone goes through in eighth grade happened with her and her pop star life. You know what I mean? It was like that awkward phase. Oh, is that the album that has Swish Swish Bitch? Swish, which actually is a bop for me.

That's a good one. Yeah, I'll fuck with that one. And I actually fuck with Bon Appetit too I kind of fuck with both those songs but the rest of the album is ridiculous but this song is it is phenomenal and the second part of the chorus where it's like

just because it's a bit of a bit I was just like this is the next level the video is great she looks great I'm like wow back from the dead level. The video's great. She looks great. I'm like, wow, back from the dead. I feel like there's a lot of former pop queens that are getting creamed right now. Like the new Taylor Swift single, Underperformed, which I hated that song.

I really don't like it. It's too broad. Too broad. That's what it is. It's too fucking broad. I'm like, what the fuck is he doing? It's like a step backwards. She's done it before.

And Brandon Urie doesn't belong there. I just, whatever. Okay step back where she's done it before yeah and Brandon Urie doesn't belong there I just whatever okay I actually think if it was only Brandon Urie then I would like it more

yeah probably right I don't know I mean no one can no one can beat Old Town Road is the thing

the novelty hit of a generation because it's also like the new Baby Shark because kids little kids are fucking with it so hard too

that video yes I was gonna say the video of them bopping along. You could even tell his mind was going, oh, fuck. This is crazy. It's like, let it go. Right. Full riders and boobies, baby.

I mean, that's really, I think that's like the sweet spot. If you just want to own the fucking charts, it's like, it's something that just sort of straddles all these sort of age demographics, too, because the lyrics aren't like too complex or fucked up that you wouldn't feel bad playing it for your kid. Maybe the Billy Ray Cyrus version because you know some shit.

Talking about Fendi sports bras. But yeah, man, fuck. Fendi sports bras. You're just like, Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'm like, all right. It's so crazy to watch kids sing some of these songs. And then you realize that was us too. Like, oh, are we 14 singing Dirty by Christina Aguilera?

Being like little sluts. I was like breaking my back in my backyard while Dirty was on. My mother was like, okay, that's what we have. We're calling the chiropractor. Something's wrong with your spine. I remember being seven. And when I was seven, I would tie a literal bandana around my torso and be like, it's a shirt.

My mom would be like, her brain would fall out. And we're all wondering as to why the world is broken. And I'm just like, why isn't my body like that anymore? I used to be able to tie a bandana around my body. And I could go to lunch. What's something you think is overrated? Okay, so still on the theme of music. Like I look at the charts and I assume I'm going to see Never Really Over like at number one

because everyone I know is listening to it on repeat. I myself have only listened to it, no other music. But then I see that Billie Eilish is still on top of the charts. And then I realized how huge Billie Eilish is. And this is kind of like when I realized I'm a little bit older now. Like I'm not liking what the kids are liking. It's this kind of – Billie Eilish herself, and this is kind of like when I realize I'm a little bit older now, like I'm not liking what the kids are liking. Right. It's this kind of, Billie Eilish herself is not overrated.

I think that what Billie Eilish represents in terms of this kind of sleepy, spooky pop star, I'm over it. And I think the reason I like the Katy Perry song so much is because it's like emotional. I miss like big emotion in songs. I miss feeling something when I listen to pop music. Truly, I miss the days when there were big-ass ballads on the radio. I miss my heart will go on being

overplayed. Genuinely, I just want to listen to music because the point of music is that music heightens the emotions. I don't know if it says something about where our country is at, that we all want to feel dead, but I just hope that with hopefully political, social, and cultural changes going forward,

we can speak that into the atmosphere, knock on wood, that we kind of go back to feeling. You know what I mean? So it's that attitude, sort of the sleepy kind of thing. I don't dislike Camila Cabello, but she is this kind of I'm asleep thing. Ariana Grande sleepy kind of thing. I don't dislike Camila Cabello, but she is this kind of like I'm asleep thing. Ariana Grande is kind of

doing it now, but she's so like sort of manic that she is emotional in some of her songs. She sounds at least awake, yeah. Right. I just miss like,

you know, getting it. Do you think she's an industry plant too? Ariana? No, no, no. Billie. Billie.

Something spooky is going on. Everyone's like, where the fuck does she come from? Okay, no, no. Billie. Billie. Something spooky is going on. Everyone's like, where the fuck does she come from? Well, like, last year I was on something on Super Deluxe with her. Like, it's like. Yeah, she's blown up. She has, like, come out of fucking nowhere. I mean, which is fine. Like, she has a big following for a while.

But I don't know. Yeah, I feel like there is some sort of, like this is like no reflection on her politics i'm sure she's not pro-trump but like a trumpian pop star of just like a pop star for dystopia feels kind of like the vibe right i also i mean and i were talking about yesterday how yeah she she makes us feel old she makes me feel old as fuck too because i'm for the first time i'm like she's the kind of vibe if like i saw her in a food court with her friends at the mall i'd be like see this what's wrong with these kids yeah i mean absolutely i would be like i don't want to sit near them i'd be like who are her where are her parents yeah where are parents and why is she wearing she was are you an extra from tank girl

she was born three months after 9-11 we were just like that is that says a? Born three months after 9-11. We were just like, who's born after 9-11? That says a lot. She's born three months after 9-11. After. Post. I know. Get out. She is post 9-11. I know. You can't be yet.

Billie Eilish's post is a post 9-11 thing. Post Malone featuring post 9-11. Post 9-11. But also, imagine only knowing a world where that has happened. That's why. I mean, we're going to have to get used to it because they're adults now. They're coming. It's weird.

Yeah, and I feel bad for the Gen Z kids because they look up to millennials who are like, we're dead inside. So then they think this... Are they doing the version where we kind of have this nihilism in our generation where it's trickling down to them and they're doing their version like,

okay, so they're sort of like dead to a certain extent. The thing is, Billie Eilish's music, I like it. I think she's talented. She's super talented. Yeah, nothing against the music.'s music I like it I think she's talented she's super talented yeah nothing against the music the music is good

I don't quite understand the image and I'm hoping it just ends up being an industry plant and it's not that I'm old as fuck but there is that wave though

and I see it a lot like I know people in the game too right now who are doing this like emo gutter kid vibe when it's like you grew up fine

that's the thing also like this isn't you it's crusty punkish it's like you grew up fine. That's the thing. Also, this isn't you. It's crusty punkish. It's an aesthetic. You just put this uniform on. Billie Eilish is like a well-off white girl and always has been. So, I mean, not that that negs any,

but it just, I don't know, it feels planty. Hey, do whatever you want. Rock your big-ass jeans and chains and shit. Look like a raver I used to make fun of when I was in eighth grade. She's got the JNCOs. I used to make fun of when I was in eighth grade. Yeah. You know, she's got the JNCOs.

Right. I do think there is something positive about someone who is not clearly not sexualized by the industry being this powerful. I think that there is a lot to that. And I think I'm happy to see that, but, um, it feels like an extreme in the other direction where I'm like,

Ooh, okay. Or their research has led them to like, actually kids are, aren't really responding to the sex thing anymore yeah they want like queer well because we don't fuck anymore that's like a thing it's like we're not we're not like I think we might be the last generation that's like sex is something that really is prioritized in the last horny generation it's like well how much what's how many retweets I get yeah that's it's that's my ed medication that

is that is so crazy. Like people get hornier looking at their computers now than they do each other. Right, exactly. Because they look at their computer and they think, oh, I get off because of that,

because of porn or whatever. Like honestly, retweets. Yeah. You look at your cell phone and you get a fucking chub. You're like, I feel that way. You're like,

damn, 800 likes in 14 minutes. No, it's a very real thing. We are very sad. Preach on. We're sad. And Mr. Matt. That's what we need on the chart. What is a myth?

What's something people get wrong that you're like, no, I need to hip y'all to the truth? Okay, so guess what? Might have misunderstood the assignment. Okay. I wrote down Bloody Mary. Okay, wow. I think that if you go in to the bathroom, close the door, and shut the assignment. Okay. I wrote down Bloody Mary. Okay. Wow. I think that if you go in to the bathroom, close the door, and shut the lights.

Yes. If you say Bloody Mary three times, she won't come. That bitch isn't showing up. Well, hold on. Well, that's a fucking hot ass take, man. She's not coming. I have a lot of sleepovers that would indicate otherwise. Do you have a lot of dead friends? There is.

Yeah. All my friends are dead. Push me to the edge. Isn't that a... Yeah. That's a song that's basically the Billie Eilish album oh you're talking about Lil Uzi Vert I don't really care

I'm being crying all my friends are dead push me to the edge that one no I wasn't talking about that one I was talking about but I know the one

you're talking about oh my bad I think that I'm just trying to get Lil Uzi Vert in here all the time all my friends are dead that's like pulled from

like a shitty like novelty book at Urban Outfitters yeah I'm sure trying to get Lil Uzi Vert in here all the time. All My Friends Are Dead, that's pulled from a shitty novelty book at Urban Outfitters. Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, also just the line isn't very original as prose. All My Friends Are Dead. Sorry. Bloody Mary. I'm sorry. Are All Your Friends Dead?

Yes. Okay. So what do you say about that, Matt? First of all, I can't source that. Also, can I know what's your brain capacity at right now I'm at a full 24 wow

we're shooting up we're shooting up I'm incredibly smart right now because of this cold brew from Kirkland Signature but

this is what I think correct me if I'm wrong the story goes if you go in there and execute this saying of the of the name three times and the door is shut, you look in the mirror, et cetera, she will come kill you or she will come spook you?

I don't know. I just thought she showed up. I didn't know if there was a guarantee to kill. I think that it's- What does she do? What does she do? What's your goal here? Are you a murderer?

I think the whole thing is unclear. I think that we need to really get down to brass tacks about what it is to expect when we do this. And I was thinking, like, literally, I was like, well, maybe we should just do it. One of us should go in the bathroom, shut the door, and do that. But then I was, like, literally thought of doing it, and I was too scared. I won't do it. I won't do it. So is it real then?

And I don't want either of you to do it. Well. I would never do it alone, ever. Ever. Really? Well, I think that. And that's another thing is it's like if you go in there with someone else, will she come? Because she knows she's going to be outnumbered.

Right. But this is also existing in a world where she's like an omnipresent thing. Like, sorry, God. Where she's always watching and knows there are more people than her in the bathroom. I don't know. I think that the only, if I would only do it alone and I would like, if I like had a knife. Which is, I would end up. I think that if I would only do it alone and if I had a knife, which is- How do you stab a ghost? I would end up stabbing myself.

That's the thing. How do you kill a ghost? How do you kill those that are dead? Famously, ghosts are already dead. What? You can't kill them. Exactly. It's one of the things about them.

We should start a new podcast. I can't stand it. It's like cereal, but we get to the bottom of this Bloody Mary nonsense. Honestly, I'm happy I brought it up, and I'm happy I misunderstood the answer. What is your goal, Bloody Mary? Come face me, you coward. They were like, we need to come. Debate me.

Debate me, coward. Come in here and disprove a myth. And I was like, Bloody Mary, yes. Killed it. Like a cultural myth. Top myths. Well, do you know what else I thought, which has already been debunked? Do you know the myth that is if you douche with a Coke bottle, you won't get pregnant?

I can't remember that. What? I heard a myth, and this has been debunked on another television show that I watched in middle school, which is how I remember this. It's one of those things that you watch at one time during a formative age, and you never forget it. Right, right, right. I can't remember truly anyone's name that I met yesterday. I can't remember truly anyone's name that I met yesterday. But it said that after you have sex, if you have sex and something happens, like you have a little oopsie where the condom breaks or you just raw dog it.

Or someone shoots up the club. Yeah, absolutely. So you can douche with a Coke bottle and the caffeine will kill the sperm and you don't get pregnant. Wow. And women apparently were doing this. What I mean, Coke never ceases to come up with incredible marketing tactics. See, it's a cure-all for everything. This is like a guerrilla marketing tactic

where they're not necessarily putting it on billboards, but they are whispering into people's ears. It is in our pop music subliminally. Right. Do it for the Coke bottle. That's why Billie Eilish exists. If you play her music backwards, it's all it is. It's like, yeah, it's like Helter Skelter, but it's douche with a Coke bottle.

All right, we're going to go check on this Bloody Mary myth real quick in the bathroom. Yes, we're going to have to. But first, let's take a break. We'll be right back. Defne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia.

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and we're back wow all right All right. And guess what? We fucked Bloody Mary right up. Yeah. We killed her. She's done. You don't have to worry about her at home. Yeah. Don't worry.

She's done. This is fun. And we got to the bottom of it. But can I say, she was beautiful. She just wanted to be understood. Oh my God, she was gorgeous. Her skin. She looked like Gwyneth Paltrow. She literally, yeah.

She looked like one of those, what's that skin company where your face looks wet? Glossier? Glossier. She looked like Glossier. Yeah. She Glossier? She looked like Glossier. She looked so glossy. She looked like Glossier. Yeah, she had good work. You know what I mean? She had that good, good work. Like that J-Lo work.

She had that work where you know that she sat her person down and was like, here's 50 million dollars. Do whatever. I want the Demi Moore glow up when I came back. I need the Demi Moore. So guess this. One time I met her and I called her Demi Moore and she said, it's Demi Moore glow up when I came back. I need the Demi Moore. So guess this. One time I met her and I called her Demi Moore and she said, it's Demi.

Oh, fuck. And I've never been so. You turned to Obi-Wan Kenobi. You just turned to a pile of clothes that just. Yes. I hit the ground. Where did he go? I became a ghost like Buddy Mary.

That's the reveal of this episode. That's incredible. Yeah. So let's get into a little bit of politics. Just because, you know, there are two stories that came out at the end of last week that were just so telling and indicative of the potential disaster that the leadership of the Democratic Party is guiding us towards. They're not all that surprising. Well, I guess first is a story about Nancy Lock lock them up pelosi and

there was an article in politico that basically said she got a little bit of a back and forth with jerry nadler who's the head of the house judiciary committee who's been like begging her to be like let me impeach this man now um and from the article it says just we'll just hear all this okay nadler pressed pelosi to allow his committee to launch an impeachment inquiry against Trump, the second such request he's made in recent weeks only to be rebuffed by the California Democrat and other senior leaders. Pelosi stood firm, reiterating that she isn't open to the idea of impeaching Trump at this time. Quote, I don't want to see him impeached.

I want to see him in prison. End quote, Pelosi said. According to multiple Democratic sources familiar with the meeting, instead of impeachment, Pelosi still prefers to see Trump defeated at the ballot box and then prosecuted for his alleged crimes, according to the sources. Come the fuck on. You think you are going, I mean, it sounds good. It's the kind of thing that if you were impatient about impeachment, you heard, oh, shit, oh, because she wants to lock him up.

Okay, well, maybe that'll buy you a little more time. But again, I don't believe that she has any interest of being like, I want to put him behind bars. No, because there's no plan behind it. This just has, I feel like, everything to with like the way politicians are like branding themselves now where like after nancy pelosi became an accidental meme lord now she's like trying to build her brand with her little clappy clap yeah like now now she's just trying to build a whole brand around that and it's like unlike you know some people it's like there's no plan she's just saying it for you know for the clicks baby right or even just why don't you support an investigation right but even then

you know there's some level that we've i've said that there's the reporting is that the calculus for democrats is well we don't want to go hastily into impeachment and then have like just a fucking joke trial in the senate where mitch mcconnell be like yeah my shit gills are getting in the way uh and just fucking punt the thing and then it's done and then they can rah rah into 2020 like they tried it and this is why we have to rally around our president which is i have to say i do think that would happen and i i'm of a different opinion of this than you guys. I actually am a Pelosi fan. I find her to be very kind of calculated.

And I worry about what happens if we go to impeach him despite him deserving it. The world just works in a way that I don't think is fair, obviously, as we've seen. So I'm nervous about shooting our shot and missing. Because I do think that all that they will do if we shoot our shot and miss and how can you possibly trust the Senate right now to carry this through with what we've seen, that it then becomes a narrative of it's just political what they're trying to do.

And with public support currently not being on the side of let's impeach him. It's like a little over 40%. Right. So without a majority, I feel like, are we just allowing them that narrative? Right.

You know what I mean? So I understand, but I'm also of the opinion where it's like, we impeach him and then even in best case scenario, he's fucking out of there. We have President Pence

for the rest of the term. No fucking thank you. Worse, yeah. I think either way i want him out too they have to show some kind of backbone against this because i totally agree because i mean on one hand i do understand the strategy because yeah politics isn't a very straightforward thing and so many people have all this kind of disinformation misinformation coming at them that no one is actually operating from level ground in terms of just the general public

looking at this. But there's a part of it too that is very demoralizing, I think, for groups that are marginalized and are facing the greatest of existential threats from this administration, that you need to show them something that is like, we get that this is a threat to black and brown people yes or queer people or whoever then like this is very serious and the the optics of it right now just feels like just not yet not yet not yet and other people like we don't have like i don't we can't just keep letting this shit rock right now and i get to because it could backfire it totally could and i and i'm not i'm not totally ignorant of those risks, but I think there's a way to thread this needle a little bit better

where you can do other things that will continue to drag out as much as possible the bad shit that's done. Because the thing that she has said is that the arguments that she has are there are certain conditions that have to be met for the impeachment to go off. It's that public support, it needs strong public support and strong bipartisan backing. Yes. The latter will not fucking happen.

It will never happen. There's no way. And the thing that worries me, like sort of going off what you were saying, Matt, is like the spin that is possible on this. I mean, even after watching how the Mueller report was viewed publicly, I feel like the conservatives were able to spin that in their favor very easily because unless you're willing to like or have the time to read every single deep dive and understand the nuances, which most people don't and rightfully so, like it was easy to spin that, which there was more concrete like discussion points for

still to their favor. So I just i'm like how how could this go better i also think there's a culture around the word impeachment and i also think there's a lot of remembrance of the last impeachment was which of course was clinton and i think what people remember about that and something that is something to think about and consider is the length of that process. Sure. The redirection of public thought and like focus to that process. Whereas like, I genuinely think you have to let people hang themselves and he continues to do that.

It isn't working, but I think that we are so far from where we were in 2016. I really think that the midterms, which I give Pelosi a lot of credit for, will show that we are gonna be really strong in 2020. I really hope, if we get behind the right candidate, I'm personally all in for Elizabeth Warren, but the thing is, I trust us to make this right,

but I don't, all he needs is a word. And if he says, they tried to impeach me, like the way he leaned on emails, and it doesn't work, it's like, all people need is one word, I'm just, I don't know. It makes me nervous to get into a situation where we shoot our shot and lose, because the worst thing that could happen

is we have four more years of him after 2020, and then people are really in danger. I think when we look at the people, though, that are going to be swayed, right, there's a certain group of people who, no matter how impeachment goes, they're all in for Trump. Of course. What's that, like 33%? Yeah. And there's another group that's mostly like Democrats who might not be enthusiastic about impeachment, but when presented with a binary choice between Trump or fuck out of here, they're going to do the right thing. So I think a lot of people think of these swing voters who,

I don't know how they've quite identified them in their minds, who are the people that are going to be completely put off by a failed impeachment. But I think at the end of the day, there has to be a way that just in terms of the way the government is set up, that this co-equal branch actually functions because this person is blatantly breaking the law. Yes, absolutely. And then it's such a fucking terrible precedent. But I totally agree with you. There is something to and I will read. There is David Ferris, who in the week wrote just sort of how he suspects what the strategy is for Pelosi, because it's not she's

she has come out and said, look, I'm not saying here. I don't know what the fuck we're doing. It's like my plan is just that it's not impeachment right now. Yes, that's and and I sure. But what is this like? What's going on? Can we we need to begin seeing some kind of movement here? Because, yeah, it's true. The president can say something, but he says dumb shit all the time. And the needle doesn't move too much. But what he was saying in this piece in the week was rather than beginning impeachment proceedings tomorrow, Democrats should take the next year to continue investigating and litigating to obtain the documents and testimony they need. Then they should summon the House from its regularly scheduled summer recess in 2020 to launch official impeachment hearings that would culminate during the Republican National Convention at the end of August 2020. Instead of proceeding to a

vote after both sides have presented their cases, as would be customary in normal times, Speaker Pelosi could make up some smirking Mitch McConnell nonsense about how Democrats need to think about this for a really, really long time. Then, in the most devastating move possible, she would recall her caucus either the Friday or Monday before the November election to officially vote to impeach the president. Members can fly in and out of D.C. for their roll call vote

and be back in their districts by midday. Good night and good luck. President Trump will lose his mind. A sitting president is never blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's sort of like the soap opera version.

Which I gag for. Yeah. And I think it's possible. Could be a little bit of wishful thinking but like you know she's there are times when like she's talked about like George Bush's behavior and I'm just kind of like I don't know like yeah where are you exactly Nancy like I don't that's where I the words and their ideas on a general level I'm like I get the logic, but the action hasn't quite added up to make me not very nervous. Yeah, I like her brand, and there's certain things that it's like I would like to see more plan or, yeah, more thought put into it.

Sure. Well, let me give you another. If that wasn't enough to shake your confidence in the leadership, let's talk about Chuck Schumer. Okay. Because, boy, there's a new book coming out from The Intercept's Ryan Grimm. And, you know, of course, every journalist in D.C. has a fucking book coming out. Yeah. And they've all got a spooky title. Yeah.

It's the moment. Oh, yeah. His book is like, I don't even, the title is so long. It's like something. Scary times. It's like, I think it's like the equivalent of like Precious based on the novel Push by Sapphire or something like that. I think it's called, no, what it's called is We've Got People. From Jesse Jackson to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

The End of Big Money and the Rise of a Movement. Long title. Very long title. Fiona Apple album. In his book, though, he talks very specifically about the brett kavanaugh confirmation process and how that was basically completely fucking bungled by the democrats like behind closed doors there was a lot happening that we did not know about if true fuck out of here so first the whole thing was people weren't sure what the testimony of christine blasey ford would do for

his confirmation um and a lot of people are like what's going on like i know it's definitely of long shot because we're outnumbered in the senate and his sort of first thing was like we have no power in this situation we have no power but if you remember in that one weekend uh where a few activists pulled up to jeff flake started getting him a little bit shaky Lisa Murkowski seemed like she could have been on the fence too Susan Collins was also another one one of the most devastating things to watch was that Susan Collins speech

it was just like watching a fucking embarrassment yeah like watching a dog die yeah and again it seemed like oh shit there might be something here because like between her testimony and some other activists there was like wait there might be something here because like between her testimony and some other activists there was like wait is there could there might be a fucking way then but this is what grim is reporting says uh that when democrats gathered on september 27th shortly after blasey ford's gripping testimony schumer advised his caucus to do nothing quote there was no way he said that

kavanaugh could survive that meant that the smartest democratic move at this moment was to not get in the way. Don't do anything, he told Judiciary Committee members, that could screw this up and give Republicans some way to paint Kavanaugh as the victim. Stand down. I don't know. They did that anyway. I'm questioning the reporting of this because that doesn't feel like what happened.

I feel like the Senate Judiciary Committee, like in terms of the Democrats, I feel like they did what they needed to do they did but i think there were outside groups right who were talking about coming after other democrats who weren't coming like being aggressive enough and things like that so it was sort of just generally a note of like we just need to let this cook like don't we don't need to begin fully grandstanding about what we just saw. Like let the public take what they saw and let them,

let the outrage build naturally. It was, I don't, I mean, yeah, yeah, like I think that

there's a lot of like lead by example shit to be said there. Like, I don't know. Letting it cook seems like a dangerous thing because otherwise

the internet will just take over and that's dangerous. But I also feel like did they just let it cook? I don't think so. I mean they came for him pretty hard. That was like – I loved Kamala in that. I'm not a Cory Booker – I'm not a huge fan but I thought he did well. I mean that was the first time I ever really kind of noticed Klobuchar.

I thought that they all kind of like, and maybe there was some grandstanding on the part of those people because they knew what they'd be doing in several months from that time. But, and so they were kind of like, you know, I'm going to make my own decision about what to do here. But it, it didn't seem to me like there was any reservation on the part of the

Democrats on that committee. Like it just did it. No, not that there wasn't in the hearing. It was then early on side of that too. And just getting everyone to be like, if they wanted to throw the full force of the party to fuck this up, we would have noticed.

Like there were definitely very vocal people within the party. I think in general, holding his feet to the fire a little bit more, talking about like what was going on with like that testimony and making more of a point out of just his outburst that he had during it.

I'm sure. A lot of people were like, well, you know. He was emotional. We'll see what happens. I don't know. I mean, honestly, it's hard to even reflect on that period of media coverage and the way that the Senate reacted around it because it was just so much. I can't picture anything more.

It was just, was just so much. I can't picture anything more. It was just, it was, it was so. That's like, I think what I'm, what I'm rubbing on with this is it's like, I felt like the outrage was at a fever pitch from everyone, from people,

from the, from the public. Yeah. I guess I didn't hear much from Schumer. Oh no. Yeah. And it was, a lot of people were like,

well, that's not like, I don't know if that's how we want our Supreme Court. Just it's not like this guy is a potentially a fucking sex crim. Yeah. The fuck are we talking about here? It was just more like, well, you know, it's a very diplomatic talk around it. It wasn't like the kind of shit where they could have hammered it.

And again, I don't know exactly like what that might have actually done, because, again, we were counting on three fucking losers to find their soul. Who you found out were never going to change their minds. Yeah, were spineless just amoebas. But it is what it is. But the other thing that's really interesting, too, is that he also writes about, you know, Christine Blasey Ford first sent a letter to her congressperson who then gave it to Dianne Feinstein. Yes. And people were like, how long do you have that letter for?

Why don't you just hear about it now? So in his writing in The New Yorker, they say that Feinstein wasn't too interested in the letter because she said, I think we can hit him more on legal problems than personal problems. And then after this article was printed, her spokesperson came out and said, I think we can hit him more on legal problems than personal problems. That was and then her after this article was printed, her spokesperson came out, said they pushed back on that. They're like, that's not it.

However, and then he also writes that a more cynical reading of this was that it could have been that she needed conservative votes in her election against Kevin de Leon in November in the midterms. against Kevin de Leon in November in the midterms. And she didn't want to be, you know, rah-rah, full charge against the conservative pick because she needed to strike that bounce or she could have lost her Senate bid. I mean, there's no question that she's extremely out of touch. So at very least it was a very dated reading of how the public would react to something like that. But I mean, the thing with DeLeon, I mean, that makes a lot of sense because there was so much... He got like 44% of the vote.

Yeah, I mean, I voted for him once I learned what his platform was. And why wouldn't you? I mean, all you had to do was see... I mean, Dianne Feinstein is, for a California Democrat way too conservative. Right, I mean, she feels like a product of

30, 40 years ago. Yeah. Of pre-9-11 world, not post-9-11. Pre-Eyelash. Pre-Eyelash. The crazy thing about Dianne Feinstein is she's a Gen X-er. And so can we really trust her takes on anything? She was actually in Hackers.

She was standing right beside Lillard the whole movie. This is insane. Dianne Feinstein is Ginger Spice. Wow. Oh my God, what are those horrible clickbait articles? Think about it. This Spice Girl became what? And I will click.

Oh, 100%. Because I have a melted brain. Yeah. Let's move on. Okay. To something a little bit later. Wow, what a fucking, it felt like we were underwater for a second.

I was like, wow, just going back to that period of time, just to put it like one more thing on the Feinstein thing, with that letter, I remember her being directly asked about that during the hearings. They turned to her and they're like, how long did you have this letter?

And at that time I was kind of like, why are we talking about this? Like, this woman was assaulted. Like, it doesn't matter how long she had it. But then it's like, when you think about the politics of it all, it's just like, oh my god, this is so fucking exhausting. Or that she could hang onto that,

and then like, the woman could be put through that as just like, ugh. Well the thing was, she was like, well I did it out of respect to her, but clearly Christine Blasey Ford wrote that because she's like something has to be done about this i will do i will speak up yeah that's why the that's why the logic that the feinstein camp puts up doesn't quite add up it doesn't hold water and that's why you're like and also imagine if she did come out with it the second she got it this there would have been a

there would have been a lot more time for the story to to evolve a little bit to put pressure on him as a pick yeah like and so you know but look we live in a world of what ifs you know what if billy eilish was born before 9-11 yeah she's in a sundress and that's we live in society we live in the society on netflix now yeah um have you seen that? No. What is it? Some show. People are just like, it's like Lord of the Flies with frats or some shit. Wait, what show? I watched Always Be My Maybe.

Oh, no, I don't know. I just watched Always Be My Maybe because I need to feel good. Yeah, yeah. Did you like it? I thought it was fun. Okay, I haven't seen it yet. It's fun.

It's fun. Yeah, I love a rom-com. I mean, look, I love Keanu Reeves doing comedy. That's all you need. I know. Well, if you want to see Keanu Reeves do comedy, baby, John Wick 3 is out now. Oh, my gosh. Wait, I love a rom-com. I mean, look, I love Keanu Reeves doing comedy. That's all you need. I know. Well, if you want to see Keanu Reeves do comedy, baby, John Wick 3 is out now.

Oh my gosh, wait. I have a question. It is so good. I have a Zeitgang question because I've gotten, a few people have tweeted this at me, that I look like a ballerina who tears her toenail off in John Wick 3 and I want to know what her name is. I have no idea what her name is,

but that scene was gripping. Someone help me figure out what this woman's name is. want to figure out if it's like gang get on it now and compare the feet to jamie's wiki feet page to make sure yes and don't be uploading that photo don't upload that photo to jamie's wiki feed page because that'll fucking tank her score unless people like nasty blown off toenail pics there's yeah i mean right now let me just check in really quick what's your wiki feed score i'm still at five stars beautiful oh hell yeah and some new like nasty blown off toenail pics. There's, yeah. I mean, right now, let me just check in really quick. What's your WikiFeed score? I'm still at five stars, beautiful. Oh, hell yeah.

And some new uploads to the page since I last checked. Beautiful. All right, what about Barbara Streisand? Hard left turn. What about her? Okay, so. You were like,

can we talk about this? Yes. And I found the story, and I mean, I love an older lady cloning her dogs. I just love it. They're Babs. If you missed this, I'm pretty sure.

Are y'all familiar like that? Yeah, we're really good friends. Okay. She, if you're not familiar with, I think she literally wrote a New York Times op-ed piece about why she cloned her dead dog. But she really just like peak older Caucasian woman. And she was really like she was very upset when her dog Samantha died Sammy and so in Sammy Sweetheart

Dear Sam that night at bed we saw yeah as we read between the waitresses every morning in prayer that's our that's our our father that's our is the note from Snooki wow but she was she was so broken up this is a from a Jezebel piece.

So broken up after the 2017 death of her beloved Sammy that she sent some of Sammy's cells to a lab in Texas to make two more Sammies. And she posted to Instagram just yesterday a picture of three dogs, two who are Sammy's clones, one who is a cousin, which I don't know what that means. Oh, my God. I think that's a B-grade clone. But there's a gorgeous picture of the two clone dogs on top of Sammy's grave, which has a photo of Sammy on it, paying their respects. The caption reads,

The twins, Scarlett and Violet, honoring their mom with cousin Fanny in the center and i just i i just think that this is a very sweet and wholesome thing and when you're a bajillionaire sure clone your dead dog now i understand i would clone sunny in a second i would create an army of yeah i've talked in the past about like uh when i was lobbying we had a client who had a clone dog it was at the forefront of dog cloning technology how expensive is that well my man's was doing in the late 90s and has like i i'm pretty sure his work in the dog cloning world had helped even barbara streisand type do this type of shit because i think for barbara's

like 50k, a dog. That's less than I would think. Chump change. Yeah, that's truly. She'll be like, yeah, cook up like 40 of them. Yeah. Put them on ice. They're only 50K? Give me an army.

Yeah. Well, wait, so for like 100K, can I get a bigger one? Yeah. Like double the size? Can you make it larger? Can the dog be smarter than me? Yeah. The first time I.

And use 100% of its brain. Check in, how much of your brain are you using? Oh, 56. Okay, wow. Wow. smarter than me yeah the first time i use a hundred percent of its brain check in how much your brain is using oh um 56 okay wow yeah i can it's crazy like and like a little bit before the the diane feinstein thing i was at 64 wow and then because i was underwater i need more oxygen yeah yeah i truly like that my head hurts a little from thinking about it too hard which is why we have to talk about barbara streisand's dogs i the first thing I ever heard, and I'm curious if Zeitgang's also, I'm a big Errol Morris fan. I love his work. And my first Errol Morris documentary

was called Tabloid, which is about a woman, it's a very bizarre story about a woman who may or may not have kidnapped a Mormon man and made him her sex prisoner in the 70s. And it's so good. And then flash forward like 30 years she is like one of the first people to get her dog cloned oh shit and so it is a great documentary

it's very funny and weird and i haven't seen it in a while but uh yeah like it seems just like old ladies with uh just spent like with expendable income can just sort of get their dogs cloned. Yeah. Well, it's a flex. I think it's a good flex. I mean, I think like, okay. You're like, I never have to grieve because I can just pop open another one. It's crazy.

My dog is one, right? My dog is, he's a young man. So I'm like, that gives me like, if things go well and he doesn't get, something horrible doesn't happen. Right. You got eight years. I've got a while to like, yeah, that's how much time I have to make enough money to get him cloned with the guys.

Well, if you think about it like this, if you save $1,000 a month and you put it away in your clone fund. I can't even see a dentist, Miles. Where am I going to get $1,000? That's a lot of money. Patreon. It's complicated. Oh, Patreon.

Hello. What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, I'm going to start now. I'm going to start another Patreon. The money is in the patreon the sunny memorial fund started now in advance please be part of my journey to get over his death and clone him he's a disaster i heard though with her clone dogs the thing that she's really upset about is that they don't behave like the dog because you have the physical form of the clone

right but the all the nurturing and stuff is different. Didn't she ever see Clone High? Like, that's not how it works. Well, I don't think so. But apparently a lot of training goes into the dogs acting like the clone when really it could have just been nurtured. Like, I don't think she did the work of, like, being near the dogs enough. No, she just wants a dead dog. Anyway.

I have to reveal something. Yes. I may know the person who trains her dogs. Matt, how? Oh my god. Friend of a friend. I know someone who has the same dog trainer.

Which is where I heard this. Yes, and I have seen I haven't seen much, but I have seen I have seen and I haven't seen much but I've seen a photo of those dogs together and when you picked up that video I was like oh my god I've seen those dogs like and I know that I know that they live a

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podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. Now, we have a story that you are so excited. Everyone is psych-electric. The second I was like, oh, we get to talk about the list. I'm so excited. This is the most insane thing. What was the publication that did this? It was Jezebel.

Jezebel. Which, you know, every? It was Jezebel. Jezebel. Jezebel. You know, which, you know, every other story in Jezebel, you're like, come on. But this is, this I think, as a former clickbait writer myself, this is a masterwork. Of clickbait. Of clickbait. Jezebel published yesterday, one of their culture editors, Clover Hope, published a piece called Actors Who Are Bad at Acting. It is a masterwork of clickbait because she offers, in this list, no explanation for why she does this.

She just presented without comment. So if this was Twitter, you'd be like, just ratio this shit, fam. This is both the most insane and genius thing anyone's ever done because, like you said, it is a masterwork of clickbait but it's also nothing it is nothing I have to hand it to her

like I just it's alchemy people on Twitter were like I can't believe they're doing this for clicks I'm like honestly

you're talking about it she gotcha honestly Cloverhope is now unfortunately a household name like writers who aren't

good at writing not for nothing but she fucking wrote a list unfortunately, a household name. I know. Like, writers who aren't good at writing. Not for nothing, but she fucking wrote a list. She made a list. She leads it. Hey, man, that's my girlfriend. The identity of her majesty. I stand by saying that because if she can fucking put that out there, she can deal with me saying it about her.

Exactly. And I have read none of her work, which means I've done as much research as she did in her piece. There you go. The list is all over the place, which I don't know how intentionally that was done. There's some of her takes,

if you can call it that, that I'm like, yeah, sure. Others made people very upset. So I'll just go through the list. And should we say whether they're good or not? I think the triumvirate here should... We're gonna weigh in, and it's gonna be a two out of three.

It's like, yeah. For everyone, definitively. And it's like Clover Hope, you know what? We'll just say it now. You win. We're talking about your dumb ass story. 100%.

I respect it. If there needs to be debate, we can have a small moment for debate because I haven't, I'm not familiar with everyone's entire body of work. So there could be a sleeper movie where they did have a good performance.

But I guess. There's some I'm on the fence about. I'm confident saying I know everyone's of on this list. Brie Larson off the rip. So, okay. So There's some I'm on the fence about. I'm confident saying I know everyone's of on this list. Okay, great. Brie Larson, off the rip. Okay, so let's get started. Brie Larson. She's a good actress. I think she's good. I don't know enough.

I didn't see Captain Marvel. Here's my take on Brie Larson. Great actress, not a star. Ah, yeah, yeah. I think that's what it is. I'm just not familiar with her work enough. Okay, I like that. She's an Oscar winner. Jennifer Lawrence. She's a great actress. I think she's fine. I think that's what it is. I'm just not familiar with her work enough. Okay, I like that. She's an Oscar winner. Jennifer Lawrence. Jennifer Lawrence, yeah.

She's a great actress. I think she's fine. I think she's fine. I don't think she's bad. Michael B. Jordan. It would be insane to say Jennifer Lawrence is not a good actress. Michael B. Jordan, I actually don't love as much as everyone else. I think he's talented.

I can't say he's a bad actor by any means. I'm so, so on him. He was a maybe for me. I think star, not necessarily the best actor, but a star. Yeah, that makes I'm so, so on him. He was a maybe for me. I think star, not necessarily the best actor, but a star. Yeah. That makes sense.

Oh, got you. So his star power outweighs his acting power. For me, for me. Okay. Nick Cage. Nope. I think he's good.

He's not good. He is fun to watch. He's not a good actor. But I think that is part of being a good actor. And also that means star, but maybe not good actor but he...

But then how would he... What would you say of Keanu Reeves then? I would say star. I would say yeah. I mean, I don't think anyone's making the argument

that Keanu Reeves is actually a really good actor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're just saying he's a presence. Okay, I'm a Nick Cage is not a good actor but I can't say

that it's not fun to watch. I'm willing to go along with you. Nick Cage is not good. Like, would you trust him to play a part that was a character you really loved? Probably not. I would never cast him. For anything?

No. I would cast him as washed up actor who wasted his money. I think it depends on the serious role he's in of whether he will... A shamed Coppola family member who had to change his name. I think I'd cast That's just him. It depends on the serious role he's in of whether he will. A shamed Coppola family member. I think I'd change his name. I think I'd cast him as Nick Cage.

Yeah, exactly. I'd love for him to play himself. Yeah, which seems like what people do, Jeff. Like how Jean-Claude Van Damme just became JCVD. Bury that. You know what I mean? Okay, John Travolta. I would be willing to say he's bad.

But I haven't. I think star for sure. Yes. And I think talented performer. Yes. Performer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is famously different

from being an actor as being a performer. Yep. So I think it sounds like he's not a good actor. What we're saying. Because we're giving people compliments. We're doing the thing.

We're like, well, not that, but this. Luke used to say full throat. Hey, as an actor, we're going straight up off the acting. Sorry, my man. I'll give it to Clover Hope on this one. Okay. Kristen Stewart. Depends. I think good

film actress when you need something done that's very internal. I just feel like so generous and specific. You can't tell her performance outwardly. Not a performer at all, but an actress, I would say. I think she's probably a good actress, but even when she's doing a great job, I'm still

not wanting to really watch her. Okay. Never my first choice. Yeah. But I think she's good. Yeah. Okay, so she's not a bad actor. No.

Okay, what about Daniel Radcliffe? I don't know. I love Daniel Radcliffe. I think he's a good actor. I feel like no matter what, he's done so many more interesting things than he ever would have needed to in his entire life. And so I'm going to give it to him as a yes. I'm going to give it to him. I've only seen one Harry Potter movie, but I saw Swiss Army Man where he is a farting corpse.

That was tight. Yeah. But I saw Swiss Army Man where he is a farting corpse. He's brilliant. That was tight. Yeah. And also he was, I was already about to say that, and he's also amazing in extras.

His comedic chops in that. The timing was right when he was hitting on a homegirl. Wait. What's the movie again? Helen Mirren, right? Helen Mirren. I mean, I like. No, who is he? Say the movie again.

Extras? Extras. It's a Ricky Gervais comedy. Yes, yes, yes. And he kept being like. I mean, I like- No, who is he? What's his name? Say the movie again? Extras? Extras. It's a Ricky Gervais comedy. Yes, yes, yes. And he kept being like, you know, I can smoke cigarettes. Yeah. Everyone that gets on that show was good.

Kate Winslet was fucking amazing in that show. Well, either way, I think that Harry Potter getting a second life as a character actor is really great and cool. I like it. And I think he's good. And Miracle Workers is good. Miracle Workers was really good.

Yeah. Adam Sandler. I feel like everyone's gonna say Punch Drunk Love, and I just am not willing to, I don't know, I think he can be good, but the harm outweighs the good. I'm willing to call him bad.

I would say good, because we can't forget that, you know, he's iconic. Like, you can say what you want about him but the thing is like he is fucking iconic

and that is but also again that's performance and being a star I don't know give him Shakespeare I don't know but also how are we defining

being a quote unquote good actor this is why the list fucks your head so bad this is why Clover is killing us slowly Clover Hope

I'm gonna say I'm gonna say good actor there you I'm going to say good actor. There you go. I'm going to say good actor. All right. I think just based off, you know, Punch Drunk Love, I was very surprised when that came out. I was like, what the fuck is this? Bizarre.

Also, you know what's psycho? Spanglish. I know. Spanglish is fucked up in so many ways, but I think that Adam Sandler turns in a solid performance. Turns in a solid performance. What about Gwyneth Paltrow? This offends me that she's on the list. I'm offended.

Because I actually believe that her performance in Shakespeare in Love is phenomenal and that she deserved the Oscar over Cate Blanchett. I think she is... It's so hard to be that much of a superstar, romantic lead, doing what she did. She was so believable. I think Shakespeare in Love is one of the greats. I think Gwyneth is canon. I say she is a great actor because

she has a lot of people believing in pseudoscience. Based off of that, you're on the list, Ma. Also, you have to always give Gwyneth props for her fun turn on Glee. You have to give her credit for her fun turn on Glee. Yes. You have to give her credit for her fun turn on Glee. Okay, fine.

Okay, fine. She's good. Wow. She's good. I forgot about that. All right. This one I think is just straight up Vin Diesel. Good.

No. No. Come on. No. No. I'm unwilling to discuss this further. Vin Diesel, I can't even. That's like not even.

That's stupid to even have that on there. That's stupid Clover. Yeah. Come on, Clover yeah come on Clover you fucked up on that Chloe Grace Moretz hate her I don't hate her

but I don't think she's a good actress I think that she is too like spunky for me ugh she just makes me feel icky but acting

stay focused see this is where the list goes out of y'all fucked up acting good or no I always I always see her acting I always see her acting

you can tell she's acting yes thank you but she's acting. Yes. Thank you. But she's also young and I like her. Emma Watson. Bad. Sorry. Bad. I've only seen one Harry Potter movie, so I can't even really tell you.

I really, I'm unwilling to talk shit about Emma Watson because I thought in The Bling Ring she turned into fun performance. Okay. That was fun. That's a push. But also Hermione. Wait, well, hold on. She's the spirit of Hermione.

Jamie, why do you think it's a no for you? With the exception of the bling ring, I've been super, super underwhelmed with any other performance she's ever done that isn't Hermione. I feel like the casting director for Harry Potter was amazing. Killed it, yep. And you never know with child stars. I feel like, you know, whatever she's, but like dog shit in Beauty and the Beast, whatever that like corny, what was that teen movie? Ursa being a wallflower.

It wasn't good in that. I don't know. I mean, I'm, as of right now, I feel like maybe she'll change my mind someday once she gets over like the blockbusters. She needs a good director, but yes. Okay. Anthony Mackie. I think Anthony Mackie's a great actor.

I like him. Yeah. I think he's a good actor. I like Anthony Mackie. I think Anthony Mackie's a great actor. I like him. Yeah, I think he's a good actor. I like Anthony Mackie. Just didn't like him as Tupac. I'm offended that she's picking on Anthony Mackie. That feels like a punchdown. I mean, did she see 8 Mile? When he was Papa Doc?

Anthony Mackie's good. Also, you can never forget him in The Hurt Locker. Yeah. He's stunning in that. He's not quite as A-list as everyone else on this list. It's a weird one. That's why it feels like a punch down to me. It's like,

what are you doing? I think, I'm like, what's he trying to do, Clover? Yeah. No, he is going to be the new Captain America.

He's good. I like, yeah. Oh, he is? He was handed the torch at the end of the movie by old Chris Evans. Spoiler alert.

Oh, whoops. By old hot daddy Chris Evans who could still absolutely break my arm. What about Jessica Alba? That's a no for me, dog. I feel like she's- I love her.

I love her. I think she was never given enough of a chance to do a good job and stuff because she was made such a sex symbol. Objectified. She was never given a good part. Off the rip. Off idle hands. Jessica Alba is primarily an entrepreneur.

Yeah. That's true. And that's what we love about her. Exactly. You can sometimes catch her on Tujunga in Studio City. Right across the street from Cafe Aroma. The next one is what people have gotten the most upset about, Amy Adams. This is ridiculous.

Why? This is stupid. Just move on. That's bullshit, Clover. It's insane to say that. That's a lock. Clover should go to prison. She's never turned in a bad performance.

Ever. She is one of our best. She's haunting. You know? Armie Hammer. I think I think he's good at doing that one thing.

Yeah, so good at being white, tall, and handsome. I don't think that he's a good actor. I think he's very well cast in a lot of movies. Absolutely. I think one of the

oh, let me find it. One of my favorite entertainment reporting pieces of ever was about him. It's called 10 Long Years of Trying to Make Armie Hammer Happen. It came out during his Call Me By Your Name Oscars buzz. It's by Anne Helen Peterson. It was on BuzzFeed.

If you want a deep dive as to why Armie Hammer is not a good actor, but is in fact well cast. Yeah. It's 5,000 words. He's got a good, he does his thing well yeah but he's also a very nice person he i've met him too yeah really nice yeah i was very surprised at how cordial polite and like just considerate of a human being he was well she's media trained yeah and i was making him extremely i did a video with like vanity fair with him where i made him like respond to other talking cars and he had a for a dumb

internet video he was very gracious and then told a bunch of stories that his publicist didn't want the video I'm sure that he likes to party I'm sure that he's a lovely person I don't think he's necessarily a good actor okay Mark Wahlberg I hate him he can only do one thing well and that's like what the fuck bro I don't I no longer like the boogie nights defense of mark walberg also what is the boogie nights defense it's he's talking about being well cast well i would say i would say the same thing for adam sandler is like maybe this is just a paul thomas anderson like making a good choice thing i think that adam sandler makes choices in his acting whereas mark walberg is always just the same this and also like you got you guys, his cryo chamber, 9 a.m., 3 a.m. workout, gives me anxiety.

Also, he's fully a Republican. He's horrible. Kevin Costner? I don't know if I have a strong enough opinion on him either way. This is such another bizarre one to have on the list. Like, what? I think she's just trying to take a shot at somebody who is a star for older women. You know, like in the early 90s, everyone was like, Kevin Costner!

I will say this. You know what movie holds up? Waterworld. Bodyguard. Oh. I watched the Bodyguard recently. It will make you cry at the end. And Whitney is such a star.

She's great. I wish, see, I would take Kevin Kline over Kevin Costner, but that has no bearing on the list. Yeah, Kevin Kline, he's a performer, though. Kevin Kline is a, Kevin Kline is an actor down. Bradley Cooper. He's definitely a star. I think he's a good actor.

I think Bradley Cooper's a great actor. He did the Elephant Man on Broadway, y'all. Yeah. I think that, yeah. I understand there's like, sometimes people are just like, he's hot, so he can't be a great actor, but unfortunately, that's not true.

The scene in Star is Born when he is apologizing to her, that is good acting. Also, I thought he should have won that. When he snorted those pills up that he smashed with his boot, that resonated with me

as somebody who used to do a lot of pills. And he makes choices too, like everything in A Star is Born is a fucking choice. It's a choice. I really respect it. Although the one thing we did say when it came out,

that character could have been played by anybody though. I don't think Bradley- But not that way. I don respect it. Although the one thing we did say when it came out, that character could have been played by anybody, though. But not that way. Not that way, but I think the Jackson main character, the film could have been the same thing with other people doing that character because for me, at least, I thought the real performance that was moving to me was Lady Gaga's.

I would agree. I agree that she outperforms him, but I still think that he, I mean, he made choices that bradley cooper would not of course of course i'm merely saying that that character could be interchanged and you could still maintain a really good piece not to say that it would be better or worse but it's not like if you took lady gaga out of it then i'm like i don't know what the fuck you got not worth it it's it's this discussion of which i always think when the oscars roll

around i always think well i think the person that wins the Oscar should be the role that no one else could have done it as well. And that is why, I thought Bradley Cooper was incredible, but with Gaga, I was really in love with that performance because I don't think

that we could have had someone else do that like her. In terms of believability in becoming a huge star like that. The type of pop star that she became, the sort of like groundedness of where she came from becoming who she was. I think the script gave him more opportunities to be more dynamic and give a better performance. But she was singular in that.

Which I stood by. And let's move on to one of the great Asian American actresses, Scarlett Johansson. I think Scarlett Johansson is an amazing actress. Ooh, what's your favorite performance of hers? I would say Don John. Wow. Is my favorite performance of hers.

Wow. And I also think that whenever I run into a gay and they haven't seen Endgame, I'm like, you have to see Endgame for Scarlett Johansson growing out her hair, drinking and eating sandwiches, and having her eyes welled up with tears the entire middle section of the movie.

Her dystopia ombre is wild. Dystopia ombre should be the title of this episode. Dystopia ombre. Ashton Kutcher. Oh, bad. Bad. But you have to see, but if you haven't seen Ashton Kutcher's career-ruining performance as Steve Jobs, I really recommend you see it.

It's one of my favorite bad movies. Chris Evans? I love Chris Evans. I think he's good. I think he's fine. I think he also never tries to do something that he can't do. Ansel Elgort. Not convinced. I don't think he's a good actor do something that he can't do. Ansel Elgort. I. Not convinced.

I don't think he's a good actor. I have no opinion on this. I just, I don't like him as a person and that's like, he just seems like an asshole. Gal Gadot? No, she can't act. She can't act. But she's a superstar. Yeah.

She's a star. Can't act. Yeah. Yeah, no. Angelina Jolie. I think Angelina Jolie is a good actress. She has an Oscar. She's blowing this off.

And I think that people. Yeah, but so does Three has an Oscar she's blowing this up and I think that people that's true the children have forgotten Girl Interrupted yeah yeah the children have forgotten

which is well acted across the board Brittany Murphy is amazing in that movie Sienna Miller how do we feel about Sienna Miller you're so funny I can't even speak

to Sienna Miller because I constantly confuse her with Naomi Watts so I have no idea well I can tell you right now that I believe they're both good actresses. Great. Which one was in 21 Grams? That was Naomi.

Damn. They're interesting. There I am. That's why I'm here. Yeah, thank you. They're also like 15 years apart in age, but I cannot tell them apart. Do you, Sienna? Yeah.

Okay. Finally, I just want to touch on very quickly. So Clover, you got us. You got us. You got us. You got us. That was 20 minutes. That's the whole list? That was the whole list.

Fascinating the hodgepodge that she put on that list. This is insane. Clover Hope. Clover, will you write a follow-up about it? I need that Clover psychology. Now I'm hooked on these listicles, Clover. I need that Clover dope. I need more.

I need to follow her right now. Okay, finally, just Just wanna touch very quickly On Nicole Curran Who is the wife of Golden State Warriors owner Joe LaCope Or Laco Or whatever the fuck

You say his name Now If you don't know She was the woman Who made the fucking mistake Of leaning across Beyonce To talk to Jay-Z And what she describes

Is merely getting his drink order But based on Beyonce's face And the frequency Of which she was talking, I don't know. She was definitely being a little chatty Cathy. And Beyonce was not feeling it. And her reaction set off the motherfucking beehive. To the point where her Instagram comments were inundated with bee emojis. You know how they get down.

Yes. And then she said that she got death threats. Yeah. Now, and then on Friday or Thursday night, possibly, Beyonce's publicist had to basically tell the Hive to stand the fuck down. She said, The On The Run 2 tour was a place of joy, unimaginable entertainment from two of the best performers in the world, and a place of love. Every single day on that tour, I saw love, which is why I also want to speak here to the beautiful B-Hive. I know your love runs deep, but that love has to be given to every human.

It will bring no joy to the person you love so much if you spew hate in her name. We love you. In her name. Oh, my God. The God-like invitation. That's God. Yeah. This is what happens.

In her name. That's how you know you have reached deity levels because people will begin killing in your name. It is insane that this is a thing. Yeah. Yeah. Everything that this is a thing. Yeah. Everything about it is psychotic. The fact that Beyonce can sit in a chair, unknowingly be filmed, just having a human reaction,

and literally what the woman was trying to do was provide a good experience for them, and she had a human moment of annoyance, and the woman got her life threatened. It is comedy. It is tragedy. It is Shakespeare. It is history.

It is history. It is now history. And it just shows you the fucking evolutions of fandoms. We have ones now that are so fucking ready. Based off a look of displeasure from their overlord. People need to get a life. Yeah. It is really crazy.

Yeah. This is the kind of story where I just look at it and I'm tired. Yeah. I'm just tired. But it's so funny. The gif is so funny. Because her face,

if I was Beehive, I would have been like, you know what, Nicole Curran, you're getting it. Can you imagine if Beyonce could harness that into her actual acting?

Like, the fact that she's capable of that sort of, like, amount of doing nothing but doing everything. It's like, oh my God, if only she could do that on purpose. What if she brought that to Austin Powers 3? Her best performance for me. Yes, gold member. I mean, nothing like it. Oh, man. Have you watched that recently?

I watched it again and I was like, ooh. Is it not hold up? No. No. No Austin Powers film holds up. Wait a second, an Austin Powers movie? I mean, there's the fuck you and fuck me. Oh, my God.

And I'm like, yeah, you get the fuck out of here. Starring Carrie Ann and Abba. Yeah. Oh, great choreographer. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, where was that performance in Obsessed? Honestly. Yes, so I forgot about Obsessed.

Also, the fact that they chose a name for her son that she can't say correctly. Like, cow. This woman wouldn't name her son something. Kyle is the child's name. Also, I don't know. The whole movie's insane. You can tell that they didn't change the script at all to fit, like, who they had cast.

Right. They're like, no, that's what the script says. We'll rock it like that. Well, prepare your mentions for coming at Beyonce like that, Matt. Well, no, I... Come on, please. I've seen Beyonce three times in concert

since the beginning. I saw every on-the-run tour. You can't find a bigger Beyonce fan than me. But we know where her strengths lie. And I will also say she turned out a great performance in Dreamgirls. I loved her in Dreamgirls, man. And she's amazing in Cadillac Records. There you go.

I appreciate when a superstar is aware of their limitations. I think Ariana Grande is another good example of that. She stopped acting because it wasn't her strength. I also think it's not a mistake that Beyonce didn't do with Star is Born. No. That wasn't what should have happened. No, no, no, no, no. Can you imagine Beyonce and Bradley Cooper having chemistry?

No. I cannot. No. No. I think, wasn't it for a hot second going to be Beyonce and Leo? Really? Yes. They had talked with Leo about it. I feel that more than- a hot second gonna be Beyonce and Leo really yes they had like

talked with Leo about it I feel that Clint Eastwood was gonna direct it years ago and then Clint passed it off

to Bradley and Bradley was gonna do it all himself famously well thank god that Clint Eastwood didn't have to

direct it well thank god and thank god Matt blessed the zeitgeist today this was so fun thank you so much

Matt where can people find you listen to you follow you listen to you follow you donate to you your upcoming clone fund my Venmo is Matthew-Rogers-1

yes I did get the first Matthew Rogers even though there are millions of us also I have one with a dash one too I'm like why do I need the one why can't I just be it

I'm just Jamie-Loftus but you can listen to my podcast Las Culturistas I co-host that with Bowen Yang but you can listen to my podcast Las Culturistas I co-host that with Bowen Yang and you can follow me at Matt Rogers though

at Matt Rogers T-H-O on Instagram and Twitter and I welcome you there and is there a tweet that you like oh okay

yes I love this prompt so I actually am going to just shout out my friend who I think has the best Twitter out there and is a comic genius.

And that's Pat Regan. And here, I want to read a couple of his tweets. Sure. Here's one. When I swipe at the subway turnstile and it says, please swipe again. I'm like,

okay, fine. But when it says, please swipe again at this turnstile, I'm like, okay, now you're being colon controlling, insecure,

manipulative, codependent then I love this other tweet just told perky 23 year old who does musical theater that I'm 30 and she said quote that's amazing and one more the most terror inducing six words in the English

language are quote just send me what you have end quote he's the one of the funniest people in America and my sister. And you should follow him. Well, listen to Las Cotrisas first and then find somebody else.

Cat and Pat get enough press. What about you? Where can people find you, follow you, support you? The Sunny Clone Fund. Yeah, please donate to the Sunny Clone Fund. I want to really get ahead of it by at least a decade uh i'm at jamie loftus help on twitter at help i love at jamie christ superstar on instagram i don't have brand unity and that's very brave of me uh listen to beckdill cast i plugged i plugged edinburgh french last week and today i'm going to say I'm going to be in New York City

for exactly one night because I fucked up my schedule. Oh. So if you want to come to ASCAP 3000 on June 16th, I'll be doing the monologue there. And I might also be in New York just by chance too. I know. Wait, when? June 16th.

June 16th. Oh, I'll still be here. No. I'm going back to New York on June 20th. Oh, my God. Yeah. Can back to New York on June 20th. Oh my God. Yeah. Can you move your show? Yeah.

No, I'm pretty sure that UCB is like really willing to move their flagship show. Really, yeah. And pay you to, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'll do it in the morning if that works for you. You can do it right after a level 201 graduation class show. Can I say one thing that I actually just realized I'll be able to announce? Yes.

That Las Colteras is going on a second leg of our tour. Yes. And that we're going to be in Atlanta, Chicago, Denver, and get this bitch, Orlando, Florida. Oh my God. Are you going to? It's going to be late August. Are you going to Toy Story Land? We're going to do it all.

Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. We're so excited. So by the time this comes out, which will be when? Monday. All right alright I think it'll be time and if it's not

I'll tell you guys to cut that out but that's exciting that's really exciting oh my gosh I'm so excited yeah I don't think so Honey Live

it's we get 50 you've done it yes we get 50 comedians to get on stage and they rant about something in pop culture that they hate

for one minute each and it's really fun at the same time it's the most fun show in the world one after another that'd be great it's 100% it's a very 100% brain capacity kind It was, it's, and it's really fun. At the same time. It's the most fun show in the world. One after another. that'd be great. It's 100% brain,

it's a very 100% brain capacity kind of show. Yeah, you, it's, it's, it's an inundation. Yes.

And just for those listeners, you don't have to check your app, this, this episode was not playing at one and a half times speed. We are just fucked up off this cold. I'm now using 98% of my brain.

Yep. And your headphones are actually floating around your head like a ring of Saturn. Yeah, and my eyes are like milk white. Like, I'm now like, and that's because, that's because my brain. And your headphones are actually floating around your head like a ring of satin. Yeah. And my eyes are like milk white.

I'm now like you're working. That's because that's because my brain told it to be that. Yeah. Also worth mentioning that Matt Rogers is on

the Bechtel cast. Yeah. Coming up this week. Hey. We talked about Love Simon. We're talking about Love Simon.

Yeah. You can find me at Miles of Grey on Twitter and Instagram. A tweet that I like is from Marcella Arguello. It said, I've gotten DMs snitching on chicks who are completely jacking my whole persona, vibe, etc. And I'd be mad.

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You're welcome. Okay, so this is a track from The Frighteners, and it's a dub version of their track, Which Way, because let's just start off on a dub version of their track, Which Way. Let's just start off on some dub music, you know, some deep bass, and get your mind going. Because my brain is on fucking 100,000% right now.

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