The Daily Zeitgeist - Perfect Party Arrival Time, On Biden Pond 05.16.22

Episode Date: May 16, 2022

In episode 1248, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Brian Bahe to discuss… The Baby Formula Shortage is a Real Clusterf--k, America Is Worst Rich Country to Give Birth In Bout To Become Worse, The Perfect Arrival Time for an event and more! The Baby Formula Shortage is a Real Clusterf--k What’s Behind America’s Shocking Baby-Formula Shortage? Whistleblower warned FDA about formula plant months before baby deaths Why US Parents Are Choosing European Baby Formula America's Trade and Regulatory Policies Have Contributed to the Baby Formula Shortage Baby formula marketing ‘pervasive, misleading and aggressive’ – UN report America Is Worst Rich Country to Give Birth In Bout To Become Worse The Perfect Arrival Time for an event? LISTEN: United In Grief by Kendrick LamarSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 237, episode one of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. women's sports. clearly a fan yeah it is monday may 16th 2022 my name is jack o'brien aka lil face plant that is from a tweet from at underscore hello chrissy who tweeted your rapper name is lil and the last reason you were in the hospital i took that to be the last reason like i was injured enough to be in the hospital which was a a face plant a too drunk to put my hands down in front of my face and tripped over a fire hydrant oh shit uh broke my orbital in solidarity with joel and b okay anyways shout out to underscore hello chrissy little face plant

sounds like a soundcloud rapper but in my or in mind, you had a tattoo of a plant on your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why they call it your face plant. Oh, man. Going to work the next day and being like, I was playing basketball and fell down, didn't put my hands down. It was wild. It was off a dunk. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,

by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! My stomach is rumbling out on the street. I'm searching for something. When they took it away, didn't want to stay alive. I'm eating four or five Mexican pizzas in one sitting. No more need to cry. Got a reason to keep on living. Shit, my car declined. Can I buy some more on credit? An NFT of Popeye Jones is all I am left with okay shout out to the fucking god christy yamaguchi main who came through it's been it's been light out here in the streets

it's been i've been we've been with the streets have been waiting just like kendrick i said what's the new yamaguchi main fucking aka dropping and we were blessed with that. Obviously, we're talking about Mexican piece of the musical with Dolly Parton. Shout out to you for that. I mean, that shit probably got to be in it. Obviously, the Popeye Jones thing, unless she also got duped by Popeye Jones into buying it. It could be precisely from

the... I mean, you have most... You said it was your nest egg. You kept using the word nest egg. Yeah, the Popeye Jones. And I told him, you know, when the market crashed last week, I said, Popeye, what's good, fam? You said we're going to the moon with this shit. And he said, who is this? Who is this?

Leave me alone. Yeah. That was an all-time great AKA. Would expect nothing less from a collab with yamaguchi main and the great pipes of mr can see for miles gray i mean that's that put it on the you know put on the list of things people call you when you're entering a prize fight but yeah you just got your eyes you just got that tuned up shut the lace of gods for, for blessing me with the LASIK,

I'm not. So I had a light prescription going into this, right? Like, you know, be exact when, if anything's off with my body, like I'm very aware of it.

So when my eyesight started to decline, even from like 2020, just slightly, I was like, no, no, no, everything's off.

Everything's off. Everything's off. And I've been like this for like the last 12 or 15 years and then i got it yo my eyesight because my prescription is light i'm seeing better than fucking 2020 right now and i'm like the most insufferable i egomaniac you've ever met it's it's wild it's like talking to a kid who's like bragging on the playground you're like you know how like most how most people think the best your eyes could be is 100%? I'm like 100 and... 70.

70% at least. Oh, you thought 2020 was the best you could do? Oh, Ted Williams? Ted Williams batting 500? I'm batting 13,000. It doesn't make sense to me, by the way. They need to just fix the fucking chart if 2020 is not the best. It to just fix the fucking chart if 2020

is well it's just more than like what needs correction right got it and that's where they they set the floor for 2020 so anyway shout out to my 2010 vision okay see y'all later damn oh the one thing though i'm not gonna lie is it's very it's a super easy procedure but uh when you can smell your own uh corneal tissue being seared with lasers that's a fun little bonus to it yeah that's real mind fuck yeah well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian whose writing has appeared in mcsweeney's and whose comedy has been highlighted in npr vulture the la times he was one of illuminative's 25 native american comedians to follow and you can see him at elysian Theater in LA on Sunday, May

22nd at 7pm. Please welcome back to the show, the hilarious, the talented, Brian Bahe! What's up? It's me. Welcome back, Brian. Lil' Food Poisoning. Hey, there it is. Oh, Lil' Food, aka Lil' Food Poisoning in the building.

Happy to fucking be here. Wait, where'd you get that FP at? Mexico. Oh, okay. Shout out to Mexico, though. Sent you to the hospital? Yeah, it was bad. Oh, shit.

Okay. Sorry to hear that. But I had a blast, you know? Yeah. A Baja blast, some might say. I wouldn't take anything back. Okay, good. Wow, even the food poisoning, you would keep it?

I would keep it. Most people do. It made it memorable. Yeah. On a trip, I feel like so many people get food poisoning on a trip, but that's the last thing you'll hear. They're like, yeah, look, I have food poisoning. Shout out to my one homegirl.

On her honeymoon, she had food poisoning so bad, she was on the toilet, and she was getting sick and she like fully passed out, like heaving while on the toilet, hit her head on the counter and like had to go to the hospital because like did a incidental KO, uh, from a terrible bout of food poisoning. But then it was like,

that didn't ruin the honeymoon though. And I was like, you are, you are able to see the positive in everything. Bless you. Yeah. I'm sure that ER was like, yeah, you're the fourth person today to come in for this reason. They're like, yeah, you're on the toilet. And then you started heaving and headbutted the counter in front of you. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. Room three. That's like its own department. Yeah. All right, Brian, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're

going to talk about the baby formula shortage, which is real. It's not like the eggnog shortage or the Christmas tree shortage or the other, you know, Fox News, local news created shortages. It's a real shortage. And we'll talk about that in relation to America being the worst rich country to give birth in and why it's about to become even worse. So we're starting things off in a fun place. We're also going to talk about where Biden's at, heading into the midterms, what his battle plan is. We're going to talk about the perfect arrival time for an event. The Atlantic has a like arrival time generator that I have found a couple flaws with. I'm just going to say at the moment,

they need to tune it up a little bit like Miles's vision. It could be, you know, it's not quite there yet. All of that, plenty more. But first, Brian, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? I was searching Orville Peck's face. Okay.

That is a country singer who wears a mask, right? That's as far as I've gotten. I don't think I've ever heard an Orville Peck song. I recognize the mask. Somebody was giving away a ticket to a show for free, I think.

That's why I was like, can I go? Yeah. Didn't go. Whoa. Oh, this. Okay. I didn't even know this was a vibe. It's a whole last five miles.

You didn't even know it was a single vibe. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. It's a whole last five miles you didn't even know it was a single vibe yeah yeah okay it's like orville almost like sia in a way what if it is sia are there any are do people have theories about this like who the real orville peck is or is it probably this probably just an artist who's deciding to do this to get some drum up some interest i saw one picture and it like looked just like a guy but you know who's to say wait just look like any old guys what you meant it kind of just looked like a guy yeah okay okay so we're not yet there's nothing like super subversive it's not riffraff the rapper out here or you know what other people think there's all kinds of theories about this no scar

no eyes are right right just not right missing like a nose which seems to be the only facial feature that is is not featured well underneath the mask no eyebrows right no eyebrows i mean no eyebrows over plucking sometimes that that looks great a lot of a lot of people can pull off the no eyebrows so do you think orville peck is gonna pull like an alia like get get the get the mystery up up up they're like oh what's going on behind the mask what's the mask what's going on and then take it off and then be like nothing was wrong y'all i'm fine did alia do that with her bangs with her glasses everyone she was always wearing glasses and covered in one eye and everyone was like what's up with her eye

what's up with her eye i remember it being a teenager i always been like yo what's good with alia's eyes she was like unspeakably beautiful i'm stunning it's sunny all the time what do you want yeah or maybe he's got terrible face tattoos yeah the eyebrows is an interesting theory because I'm stunning. It's sunny all the time. What do you want? Yeah. Or maybe he's got terrible face tattoos. Yeah. The eyebrows is an interesting theory because it is. So it's like a Lone Ranger mask with like a fringe hanging off of it. So like that,

I could see that as like compensation for a lack of eyebrows, you know, like he's trying to just like. I'm seeing some eyebrows peek through in some of these other shots. Yeah. But like, isn't that what you would do? Oh. Fake eyebrows could be part of the mask.

Yes. Thank you. Oh. Oh. Groucho style. Wow. Yes. Okay. I like that.

Maybe he just wants you to envision whatever you want it. Yeah. Whatever you want him to be. It is brilliant marketing shows incredible restraint you know and like foresight to be like all right so i'm about to become famous and i'm gonna make it so that there is not a trace of my face on the internet could i do this for comedy that would be incredible i think are there there any. Does anyone do that right now? A mask bit? No.

I'll do it. Yeah. Has anyone ever done it? There's the masked rapper. Right? I mean, yeah, we got MF Doom. I mean, I think MF Doom was one of our most famous masked rappers. Yeah.

And what, Cool Keith used to wear a mask too? I think so. I think that's right. Ghostface originally. But he wasn't really like hiding his face like that. That was the origin, right? Legendarily, apparently, probably a pocketful. But Ghostface was wearing a mask because he was wanted at their first show.

And that's how he became Ghostface. What came first, Ghostface, the rapper, or Ghostface, the killer in Scream? The rapper. The rapper. Yeah.

Whoa. Yeah. So, he might have a case. So there you go. Yeah. He might, he might have to sue Dimension Films.

I mean, we should talk about the fact that the Kendrick album dropped. I mean, we've kind of referenced it already. It's a lot, is a double album at a time when that just means, you know, it doesn't mean two discs so much as it means a lot of songs.

And the track numbering starts over halfway through. That seems incredible upon first listen. I'm only halfway through it. It's a lot to get through. But then Radiohead dropped a new album on the same day, kind of. It's a lot to get through. But then Radiohead dropped a new album on the same day, kind of. There's a band called The Smile that is Tom York, Johnny Greenwood,

and one other member of Radiohead. And it sounds like a Radiohead album. It sounds like I've only listened to a couple songs, but it sounds awesome. Yeah. That's a lot. We are being showered. Also, My Chemical Romance dropped a new song yesterday. Wow.

Yeah. And then isn't there another Taylor Swift album coming out? we were being showered also my chemical romance dropped a new song yesterday wow yeah and then isn't isn't like another taylor swift album coming out because like i feel like music twitter is like it's so many camps are like you either mcr taylor swift or the smile slash kendrick there's like so many verticals or parts of twitter they're like it's the best music time ever right now. Yeah. Summer. Who do you think is going to have Song of Summer? Taylor? Orville? Who knows? Orville Peck.

Orville Peck. Yeah, let's say it right now. Orville Peck is coming out with something. Nothing like a leather fringed mask that says, you know, light and breezy. Some barbecue. Barbecue.

Do you think his mask just stinks? Or he's always got a new one. I feel like. Yeah. There's a lot of masks. Yeah. Okay. It's not smelling like a mascot in there, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Although probably after like a live show, I'm sure it smells a little bit like, you know, beer

and sweat. I'm surprised he doesn't got hella styes. Right. Well, that maybe maybe he does he stops wearing the mask and they're like did you finally decide to share your face with us orville no man i was getting terrible styes my optometrist said i have to take it off or i could do serious damage to my vision so constantly it's like it's easy to find out who orville is because he has it's the guy with the stye right and the really specific tan line on his face hey are you or no i'm not man can you fucking leave me alone okay just the the styes so miles flew to new york to get eye surgery i speaking of styes whenever i was in new York, it was the only time I ever

like really on a regular basis got styes because I think it was just, you know, public transit and just the touch of my eyes. I do, I do like to give butterfly kisses to every, you know, hand holding a spot on a subway train. So that could have been the issue. Okay, yeah, that was probably it. I feel like there's a lot of stuff that gets in your eyes in New York City. NY, is it easy to get a stye in your eye? Let us know.

Or don't. Stye Twitter is popping up. Yeah, where's stye Twitter? What's NY stye Twitter saying? Yeah, maybe it was an aside that What's NY Stye Twitter saying? Yeah, maybe it was an aside that I shouldn't have even brought up. Dude, you're touching your eyes too much.

I know, clearly. But then when I got out to LA, I didn't get any Styes. So, there you go. That dryer. What is something, Brian, that you think is overrated? Fridays. Now you're saying this on a Friday.

I know. Even though this episode is dropping on a Monday. Yeah. Tell us what. What's overrated about a Friday? It's like I'm tired, you know, 6 p.m., 7 p.m. rolls around. I'm like, let me I can't even like leave my home i can't go out i'm sleepy i want to take a nap i cancel plans i'm like i'm more down to do stuff midweek i have more energy right oh so is that so i kind of identify with that we're like friday feels like

the finish line. And then it's like it's easy because I have the relief of saying, well, tomorrow's Saturday. But right now I'm like dealing with the just barely getting to Friday energy. Yeah. There's nothing left in the tank for me on Fridays. Yeah. I feel like I love to just stay in on a Friday. I'm like, no, this is a good version of staying in on a Friday.

But I'm wired a bit differently. And it sucks because everyone else is like going hard. And I'm like, damn, what are they doing different that I'm not? Ignoring the pandemic? I mean, shit, man. I'm in New York right now. It's tight. I don't care about COVID at all. I'm like, wow, okay.

We're still in New York from eye surgery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just had it yesterday. And you can see already? Yeah. I texted him right after the surgery. Check on Miles' eyes. And he was immediately like, dude, I can see better than

100%. They tested my shit right after i got out the surgery and i was already seeing slightly better than i did going in that's after me having lasers on my eyeballs smelling your corneas cook yeah that's wild only briefly yeah yeah but anyway yeah but yeah like i was walking around and i just like going indoors. It's weird because parts of L.A. indoors, people are still very like I'd say you have like a 60, 40, 70, 30 split mask to unmask places. Yeah, here it's like it's like 90, 10 unmasked indoors, too. Oh, indoors. Yeah. But I mean, look, everybody has their own relative comfort levels. I know a lot of people I know like walk around with their like well i just had it three weeks ago comfort like

confidence yeah so everybody's on different timelines for sure yeah what is something you think is underrated brian thursdays thursdays hell yeah that's my friday thursdays is like all right i've had, I've had enough. I've had enough. I can't take it anymore. I got to be really irresponsible. And that's when I pop up. Yeah.

I think our bodies are now telling us as a species that it's four-day work weeks. Yeah. That's been plenty. We're ready to pop off on Thursday weeks. Yeah. That's, that's, that's been plenty. We're, we're ready for, we're ready to pop off on Thursdays. Yeah. Like, I mean,

is that, but is that like REM remnants from college? Like Thursdays? Yeah. Like I was, I was going the hardest on Thursdays because I remember when I had the ability to like choose my schedule, I did everything I could to not have class Fridays.

Yeah. And so that's why like thursday i was like man friday is a recovery day basically thursday is when i go hard yeah and then cut to friday maybe that's why i'm depleted on friday because i use if i just like held off a little bit i could be out here with everybody on friday right right right so maybe you don't want to. Maybe you're... Lines are shorter on Thursdays.

Castles and Toasties or Six Flags or whatever. How's a Tuesday and Wednesday? How do you all feel for anything happening then? Is Tuesday too violently in the beginning of the week to do something? No, I'll go out on Tuesday.

Okay. Wow. Yeah. My only experience with the New York nightlife, I had somebody who worked next to me when I was at ABC News who went to the clubs every night that there was a big night. And she was like, yeah,ay tuesday are the nights everything else is like so whack and i could i could not come close to like i i'm just i don't have the fortitude to do that to start off the week hung over and then

like ease into it i need i need the i need the sleep in yeah yeah you know some people they have they have to go out to feel alive you know at a certain age and i at a certain point like that formula inverts and you're like i feel like i'm dying when i go places i was in my early 20s i already felt that way yeah no no i was the same i was fully burnt out by 22 yeah yeah couldn't go to a club to save my life at 23 24 i was like i can't do this is my brain is damaged from party from college yeah yeah yeah college bad for the brain we've been saying it you know all you have to do is get that wu-tang double cd You have all the education you need. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we like to cover shortages here. we've covered the candy cane shortage the christmas tree shortage the eggnog shortages of the past and they were all bullshit uh there is a legit shortage of baby formula right now which for some parents is terrifying reportedly uh 40 percent of formula is out of stock nationwide.

You know, first of all, formula is controversial. I think a lot of people think you should never feed your baby formula. Parenthood is messy. You know, we went into parenthood being like, we're never going to use formula. Formula is bad. It has sugar and all sorts of bullshit in it. But you need to stretch that breast milk sometimes. You need to work.

Yeah, not everyone can breast milk too. Yeah, not everybody can breastfeed. Sometimes you got a job that you can't pump. Yeah. You know what I mean? I feel like it's probably a minority of workplaces where it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you need to, there's like a place for people to pump and shit like that. But that's not the majority for sure.

Yeah. So one of the people are asking, what happened to the shortage? Can we just blame it on supply chain issues and call it a day? Actually, there was a recall of Abbott baby formula following the deaths of two babies due to a rare infection that led the FDA to investigate the plant, which turned up traces of, you know, a very unpronounceable pathogen. But worse is that a whistleblower tipped off the FDA about the conditions of the plant months earlier and they did nothing. Wow. Yeah. You know, that's pretty standard American capitalism bullshit where, you know, the FDAda a government institution is completely underfunded completely toothless and you know doesn't do shit until it basically is going to hit the company's earnings report at some point but like a whistleblower you know that's that's not going to be on the

top of the pile i mean abbott's doing fine but dude their fucking home covid testing business has taken the fuck off so i'm sure in their their minds, they're like, bro, we can absorb, you know, dead children lawsuits. Sadly, because I mean, so many of the take like sort of telemedicine tests. A lot of the popular, like, you know, one of the very popular ones is made by Abbott. Yeah. And that is a calculation that businesses, lawyers, corporations have lawyers do for them? Like what would the lawsuit like cost us? And then what would it cost us to make this improvement, this safety adjustment that's proven?

Oh yeah, how much can our profits offset? There's also, what is it? It's like on-demand supply chain things because of the pandemic, people hoarded formula in 2020, so the demand fell and suppliers cut back production through 2021. And now there's demand again, but they haven't been able to ramp it up. Which was the same thing that happened with appliances and a lot of other things, right? Because of the pandemic where it's like, people aren't buying it so let's not let's not go too hard on manufacturing it and then cut to oh right yeah it's a that's a trend

of manufacturing where you don't you never manufacture a surplus it's just always like as demand spikes you just have to like hire a bunch of people really quickly and do it because it costs money to like store stuff that's been a a new trend that the only downside is it makes life hell for sometimes consumers in this case but always your workers under is there a way to like make baby formula do you think like diy like at home yeah yeah i don't know there i i saw on twitter i mean again i would take that with a grain of salt but i i did see a lot of like people on activist twitter like sharing information on that i know again i have no clue how yeah i'm like i wonder if like if you just look at the ingredients like could you reverse engineer baby formula one thing i remember from when we were doing it is that the

best baby formula like is illegal in america there's like all these german hold on i just want to say this a lot of people said there's a lot of discussion about this and a lot of people say they want to discourage that but i so it's very it seems very contentious but the homemade baby formula yeah yeah yeah they're like i think you know i see it on a few different news things where their pediatricians are like, it's, I would advise against it. Okay, nevermind. I would never be able to figure out how to make it because if you've ever smelled baby formula, it is the stinkiest, worst smelling shit. And like, if I arrived on that by accident, like DIY, I would be like, like oh no like i better just throw this out before like anyone smells it because it might harm them like baby formula like makes me gag

when i'm like mixing it it's a baby formula not grown jack formula i know but i'm just saying it there's nothing intuitive about it that is like this would be a good thing to feed to my child yeah it probably smells like steak to the babies. Right. It smells like steak and babies aren't huge fans of medium rare steak, which I found out the hard way. Smells like baby formula. So I was talking about the German baby formula is like better because it doesn't have high

fructose corn syrup in it. You might be surprised to learn they're still putting high fructose corn syrup in America's baby formula is like better because it doesn't have high fructose corn syrup in it. You might be surprised to learn they're still putting high fructose corn syrup in America's baby formula. So we were like trying to find a way to order baby formula from Germany. But when you do that, that's when the FDA fucking swings into action and suddenly acts like they exist because of America's trade policy. There's a number of European baby formulas that are banned in the U.S., even though they meet most of the FDA national guidelines. And it's basically like most U.S. brands wouldn't pass the European regulation because they're banned on certain added sugars. And the FDA loves to seize that shit like it's a drug shipment.

Like, and then, yeah, they're really... Or it's not labeled properly. Yeah, that's their thing. Is then yeah they they're not labeled properly yeah okay but what else their thing is it not labeled yeah like it the and the labeling thing is not anything other than like it doesn't have it doesn't tell you the iron thing it's like pure bureaucratic bullshit that is hiding underneath it like a bunch of lobbying by american companies that don't want their market fucked with which is odd too because like it's funny like on the other way europeans like we're not gonna poison our people with mountain dew fuck out of here we'll not sell this garbage in our within our borders yeah another

thing the babies aren't as big a fan of as i am yeah and do but then i also like i know like there's like french cough or french cold medicine that my mom bought like once and forever she's like it's better like it's it's more that shit works better than the like american medicines and stuff but i know there's a lot of debate over like things that are prescription versus over the counter and both in like these parts of the world and that's when the fda is like you're just letting people take care of themselves without getting a you're their health insurance involved oh fuck that yeah but yeah so this is a real thing the parents are dealing with and i i would say like the i wouldn't i would not suggest telling people to just breastfeed because right not everybody has that

option and it's seems like people are acting like that is the only way. Right. Yeah, yeah. It's very much like coming from the, you know, concern. So, like, I wanted to tie this to just the general state of having children, giving birth in America. Because I think a lot of people have talked about it in the aftermath of the leaked Roe decision, but there are studies. There's one in the AJMC that found that among 11 developed countries, the United States has the highest maternal mortality rate, a relative undersupply of maternity care providers, and is the only country not to

guarantee access to provider home visits or paid parental leave in the postpartum period. And it's, we're last. America is last out of, you know, a bunch of Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, and the UK. America comes in dead last for, you know, the health care of women who are having children or who become pregnant. And then of the children of the like children immediately after they're they're born, there's just like fewer options because America is built to take care of corporations and not human beings. Right. And they do. I mean, this kind of speaks to the sort of all the disconnects we talk about.

Right. Because at one level, if you work in like the service industry or the HR is a little more forward thinking, you might have benefits that resemble something closer to humane treatment. But then that also puts people in this reality where they're like, oh, well, I have that at my job. Other people must have that too. Not realizing that the further you go down, the more hostile and just inhumane the treatment becomes such as like yeah if you're working at McDonald's or something there's not going to be like oh yeah here's your paid time off because you've just had a child they're like oh he's had a child

okay when you come back in right it's so crazy that like hospitals make money you know like they it's like what they that like shouldn't even like be a thing i feel like i i saw a tweet or like somebody said this but like people are like hospitals are just like giving like c-sections to when giving birth because it's apparently it's like cheaper

and i'm like that's so crazy yeah i think it's more expensive but like a better deal for the hospital and better right profitable yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i think there was a i'm looking at like an article from 2019 that was saying a doctor and an economist note that doctors are generally paid quite a little bit more for a c-section right that's so fucking that's like really fucked up yeah and it's a it's something that's consistently happening like apparently in the south and it's a it's something that's consistently happening like apparently in the south too it's just it's a it's you know a plague apparently according to this other headline yeah and you know there there's a thread from a doctor in alabama saying that like alabama is a great example of what will happen when Roe is overturned. And yeah, we're already living in a dystopia, and a lot of the states are worse than people

realize. But people, like this doctor talks about people coming to the emergency room with a miscarriage and being turned away. And, you know, at first the doctor thought it was because the patient disclosed they'd had a medication abortion and were thus treated poorly. But hospitals and their physicians are willing to violate the patient's rights in order to avoid a feared potential for prosecution, essentially. So like already in Alabama, because it is already like abortions are banned by the alabama state constitution it's just that they're not really allowed to go full guns blazing in light of row but that's about to go away right so yeah it's it's bad and then just again in the that's not

the solution category so this physician raises long thread about how bad it is in Alabama and how it's an indication of where things are going. And somebody with a username that includes GQP are seditionists. And I stand with Ukraine came back and said, doctors need to leave these states. Okay. Cool solution. Yeah. The original poster, like, there's a lot of people saying that like why would you ever go there like what are you doing because that said lib the way of thinking where you also do a thing where it's like oh it's the south they're not human either leave that place so the like because there's just as guilty of the those aren't people thinking as the right is. that we talked about a lot when we were just analyzing NPR voice and like where, where,

why people need their news of the end of the world told them like a bedtime story, like with a, like ASMR voice. Like, I think this all kind of ties together that it's just like, well, it's easy to just like move out and like get out of there. Like my, my first reaction is like, oh oh man like how do we get doctors to move to these places that need them so badly right and you know that's obviously easier said than done and like that's why i didn't put it in like a pat tweet like move their doctors you know like i don't want put yourself at risk yeah unnecessary prosecution to go to jail but i'm just confused how you ever land at just leave that situation as the solution to the problem because then if there aren't enough doctors

then eventually someone who's in a position of power will have a tragedy and then they'll realize what's happened and they'll wake up and they'll realize the error of their ways i think is how that thinking goes well then you don't get doctors and then you'll figure it out it's the same way like with the power outages in texas right yeah well maybe you shouldn't have voted those people in not oh when do these people get their power like yeah well maybe if they don't have power long enough they'll start voting the right way right yeah that's not how it works if anything you create a vacuum for some creep to come in and explain that x group of marginalized people is the reason the power went out right you know and that's usually the cycle we see with

our politics yeah it feels like what is it like is it reverse gentrification like the right thing i don't know like when if you're just like telling everybody to leave a place it's like um okay but that's easy for you to say yeah it's just like that huh but again those there's a lot of takes from people who speak just so narrowly from their own perspective and what options they have on the table with absolutely zero thought going into what do people have the same options as I do? Right. It's really crazy that that

type of thinking still exists. If that's your off-the-cuff response to something, how are you navigating life every day? Like, are you just like operating from like such like privilege that like you,

you feel like you're like, you probably think you're like living a great, like altruistic life or whatever, but it's like, no, you're kind of like making things so much worse for everybody. Yeah. It's, it's ignorance.

It's willful ignorance, or maybe it's not all the time, but it's from this like perspective of like, oh, we live on a piece of bread that's rotting, but the mold is on that side of the bread and I live on the other side of the bread. And it's not going to get to me, but that's not how mold works.

That's not how rot works. It gets, it will eventually take over the whole thing. And I think we're only in the last couple weeks, we saw with that row leak, people were like, oh my god, reproductive rights actually could affect me now. Don't mind all the

other people who have had restricted access or criminalized healthcare in the country that have been activists have been saying, this is happening in real time, but it's only now because that rot has become what come within view of these people's homes that they're like oh shit this is bad and i and i think this is the same reason why now we're seeing you know joe biden and the democrats rely on their time-honored strategy of using Existential dread to motivate people Yeah Because that's what he's done now He's out

He's out here now saying things like Referring to like the great MAGA king And Trump Did he pull that from season one of Is that a yellow king reference? I have no idea what the fuck that is That's the energy.

There's like this article in the New Republic. It's like an op-ed that has the whiniest defense of Biden pivoting to saying, well, if we don't win in the midterms, you're going to get more Trump. And that's

that. I hope that motivates you. Just like in this, the author writes, Biden's low to get more Trump. And that's that. I hope that motivates you. Just like in this, the author writes, Biden's low numbers are seriously unfair. Huh? Not fair, not fair, not fair. Seriously unfair? That is such a white people concept.

That's seriously unfair. No way is this a white man, Miles. It's not cool. it's not cool that seriously unfair you don't that's not an option for a lot of people to be like this is unfair most people are living in seriously unfair as their reality since the moment of their birth uh and that's all they know however he goes on to say the numbers are seriously unfair he's managing quite expertly russia's invasion of ukraine okay what billions of dollars going to defense contracts granted yes secure their their their you know national security is important but also the country is also in freefall the economy despite

some nasty inflation is booming all right huh for who go yeah what like give me the indicators that make this a booming economy uh the line went up and i had dude some of the stocks i own are fucking doing wild don't worry about the unregulated crypto market where a bunch of like bystanders probably took a terrible fucking financial bath uh because they got inflation that's so funny too oh just a nasty case i got a nasty cough but otherwise i'm feeling great i'm thriving uh and then they said talking about an info then passed a one trillion dollar infrastructure bill on which trump could never get congress to move that is even if he tried and for those who care not everyone does the deficit's gone down biden restored the sense we lacked during the Trump years, that the government is operating in a reasonably orderly and ethical fashion.

None of this has gotten the country to rate Biden the superior president he so obviously is. That is such a... Come on now. It's just like he's better than Trump, and so those are our two options. It's like, it reads like, what else can he do? Guys tax the rich. Yeah.

Like what the fuck is he supposed to do? Right. Like, what do you mean? And sadly though, it may work this tactic because more people, more voters than not are looking at this, you know,

rightly so that there's, this is an existential threat from the Supreme Court that's constantly there. But I don't know if there are going to be enough people who are also marrying that too. But what's going to happen? What's our future? What does our future look like? Don't just say, dude, look, a fascist over there.

Yeah. What's the future? over there yeah what's the future and you look at so like you know the one of the advisors of the afl cio he said is describing what's happening is quote what biden is finally doing is trying to alert people to what's actually at stake in american elections yeah and talking about how this has been a huge motivator if you when you tell people about the terribleness of the republican party and and you know this article points it worked in the 2018 midterms where the turnout was higher it worked in 2020 in the presidential presidential election where uh turnout was higher but like many people are well aware of the very bad things that are on the horizon like we're not looking for a fucking PSA about it

yeah you know that's not work sorry like I just don't solution yeah yeah it's not the bar is so low that like the only thing that like tips anybody like in the favor of like Democrats is like hey at least we're like at least we can't do as bad

as like the last administration it's like we that's um really bad logic you know yeah uh but you know this is this is the problem because now we're you know they're they're playing politics not protecting people yeah and that's that's all it's always clear when someone's doing that when their interest is in protecting people or if their interest is playing politics. And it just, you know, it just reminds me again of like what Katie Porter said last week, like that her colleagues minds were blown when she got emotional about buying groceries. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is like bad out there for like poor people.

like whoa whoa whoa is like bad out there for like poor people right like bacon's like too much to buy huh it's not in the polls it's not in the polls is what they say little do they know there's there's a sycophantic industry of consultants that's built around people showing you polls that will help you feel better about what's going on right yeah i mean that's that is the whole the whole infrastructure is like built to kind of keep the current status quo and values in place, like from the polling to the lobbyists, right? Yeah. And I don't want to hear about somebody telling me what the stakes are when your Twitter avatar looks like you're on Walden Pond. Yeah, the writer of the New Republic picture. And you're just having a nice white wine on your deck every night to take the sunset in. There is so much white wine energy with the whole...

I mean, the NPR thing really felt like when we were just listening to that i just i felt like every person who was describing um you know giving us the story of a war crime but like through the lens of npr voice like sounded like they were doing it over a glass of white wine this person who wrote this looks it definitely has a glass of white wine in their hand i don't want to i have nothing against white wine or wine drinkers but it just feels feels very much like well because it evokes the idea of carefree people who are speaking from a reality that is so disconnected to everyone else's like i love a buttery shard this is a great buttery shard thank you has self-care gone too far i feel like this person like the person you're describing they're like all about self-care gone too far i feel like this person like the person

you're describing they're like all about self-care and they're just like this is i need self-care right like it's like he got into self-care the same month he was trying to reckon with his like white privilege yeah but i mean i need to take care of myself actually this is too much this is too much to think about this is too much to consider care of myself. Actually, this is too much. This is too much to think about. Yeah, I mean, this is where this is all the same story, right? Like the person who told the doctor that they just need to leave those states to die, like leave the poor people in those states to die, had GQP or seditionist traitors. traders i stand with ukraine like we we talked on yesterday's show about you know the the bitcoin markets and the fact that they not only like their crash is like kind of a distraction from other more important news stories but like they are a a second market built on top of the other market that is just doing the same shit as the as the other market so like this is people are basically need anything to funnel the energy they should be using to towards realizing that our current trajectory is completely unsustainable and dangerous and going to be very deadly for

our children and grandchildren like that they are taking it's just coming out like all turned around it's it's cognitive dissonance at its finest and it's pretty frustrating yeah i just wish that like the people who like wrote op-eds like didn't write op-eds you know i just feel like i feel like the people who should be writing op-eds don didn't write op-eds you know i just feel like i feel like the people who should be writing op-eds don't have like the time or money to actually write op-eds and right that's who we need to hear from but like they just like don't have the resources and that's uh i don't know it sucks yeah that's how we get the new york times op-ed editorial page being like well well, you know,

the main problem is cancel culture and, you know, because it's made up of, like, liberal people who went to Harvard and conservative people who went to Harvard. Like, those are the two types of people who work for the New York Times op-ed, I feel like.

It's just, like, the people, yeah, it's, like, the people who like I have only ever like been the loudest or whatever just like never listened to anybody like that's that's op-ed culture and it's like right we need to cancel op-ed culture actually unless uh we're only uplifting voices of the people at like the lowest rungs of society yeah yeah because we don't we're only uplifting voices of the people at like the lowest rungs of society yeah yeah because we don't we're our our media is dominated by ideas of like basically like top two percenter culture without realizing it yeah every single thing like i i remember when the first times as a kid i realized it is seeing the depiction of new york on television so much as a kid and i live in la

and i was like oh new york sounds cool cool. And I visited somebody just continues and continues and continues when the takes that are supposedly analyses of our current situation are done by people who are so not even near the action. I mean, movies and often TV shows, like from the 80s up through fairly through fairly like maybe a decade ago like there was no like financial reality there was no economic reality like it economic gravity did not exist and no most of the time poor people poor characters were a fucking punchline yeah they like you had to make the show about that like rose Roseanne was about that.

This is your place? Right, exactly. You know, like that would usually be the reaction of a character when seeing someone's lesser lifestyle. Yeah. Do you feel like that's changed? I feel like there's more.

I feel like there's more of it. There's more working class comedy stuff I feel now. Right, right, right. But I think the majority of people, though, I think would think that everyone in America lives like what you see in modern family. Right. Yeah, I think that's right. stats because they are most politicians because they're not you know at the poorest people they probably know are their college educated staffers that that's sort of like like we say that's where the that's where the blind spot begins and they're like wait it's not like on modern family people

aren't living like that and they've only lived in that reality and many do know but i think it's just too much for them to consider do i actually have a hand in this no no it can't be like okay but i'm gonna work i'm gonna work hard for them despite that i'm not responsible but i'll do my best kind of thing rather than there's a terrible situation i the least i can do is use my position here to try and bring attention or fight for something better despite this terribly flawed system yeah like this the stakes aren't real for them. It's like hypothetical. Yeah, exactly.

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your podcasts. And we're back. And let's talk arrival time. Everybody's talking about it. This is actually hotly contested in my household. My wife likes to be very

punctual and you know fully admits she's like it's just a thing like where i feel like i'm being disrespected if i'm there late at all i feel disrespectful and like i'm being disrespected if i have to show up there on time i'm like i this is this is an attack on okay so this is the thing right this is one of those things that we always contest and it also has a lot of cultural nuance too but is there a perfect time are you one of those people who doesn't mind being there first and helping the host out a bit are you a minimum 30 type because you you do absolutely do not want to be there helping anybody set up shit you want to get there and fucking get down well i think this is something that has been asked constantly but is there a right answer jack you've said for you you're not trying to be there punctual i get that your wife

different set of different different upbringing too like my mom is is very punctual i'm dealing with japanese clock time versus black people time constantly and i'm pulled in two multiple directions based on the thing like if it's a thing with my mother like a family event with my japanese side of the family i show up on time yeah if it's with my black family it's a little it's it's like suggested it's like suggested to suggest it. So suggested time. My wife is Korean and her mom was always late to things and her like need to be punctual, I think, is a reaction to that is that she always felt stressed out by that. My parents were pretty punctual. I don't think them being punctual has anything to do with me. think them being punctual has anything to do with me i think i just am i have social anxiety and feel like it's just prolonging the process of my battery being drained and me contributing nothing

right brian how about you where are you at on this i feel like it depends on what it is like if it's one if it's if it's only one other person at meeting you gotta be with let's call it an event an event an event oh an event but that is yeah you can that's all right it's an event you can be 30 to an hour to two hours late right yeah it's 30 to two hours well it totally depends like brian this is my point this so this equation in the atlantic i mean i i've never seen the Atlantic get anything wrong before. But this equation that like you're allowed to like go through it, you input the variables. None of the variables are how many people are at this event, which is arguably the most important thing.

And how long is the event? Like how many hours is the event lasting for? Let's assume, right, it's like a friday night party because the most of this article going so okay oh you're right okay my bad a thursday night turn up and jack you're in college okay okay put yourself there uh because a lot of it is centered around a party mostly parties mostly like larger group gatherings because that he the author of a joe pinsker does you know acknowledge like it's different when it's something that abides by clock time when it's like, you know, a more formal event or something like that versus getting together with your social group and the varying arrival times that exist within there. rule that 38 minutes late is the perfect window because you're not too early because you're not there within 30 minutes, you're just after, but you're not over 40 minutes, so you don't look

like a dick. Now, I don't know if that really matters, but for this question, like you're saying, Jack, he enlisted the help of a mathematician to really create some kind of proper formula to understand because this is a balance of many variables to dial in when is the best time. This is the same mathematician who did intangible equations like the dumper slash dumpy differential. I think for like when John Green was writing a book or something, he helped out with that. So let's go through this. Let's use Brian. I want to use you as an example. You got the active social life. Yeah, we will. Let's let's go through this let's use brian i want to use you as an example you got the active social life yeah we will let's let's punch in uh these variables into the machine so the first question to figure out the perfect arrival time is how punctual are your friends on a scale of zero to

ten zero being perpetually behind ten being on the dot so like on average yeah i would say seven a seven okay okay pretty punctual okay next question how confident are you about your So like on average? Yeah. I would say seven. A seven. Okay. Okay. Pretty punctual. Okay. Next question. How confident are you about your friend's punctuality? Zero, not at all, and 10 being completely? Four.

Four. Okay. Next question. Do you expect that everyone will show up around the same time? Zero is not at all. 10 being definitely. I would go eight. Eight. interesting okay see this is this is good information four how awkward is it to be too early for you zero you don't mind at all 10 it's unbearable um i'll go five five okay okay next one

how uncomfortable is it to be too late again zero being not at all ten being extremely uncomfortable zero oh you're gonna get a good this the formula is gonna bless you i'm sure uh next one how excited are you about this party zero being not at all and ten being extremely just any party let's just say if you're let's let's map this onto a hypothetical event that you would normally be going to. I would say seven. If I'm going, I'm usually pretty excited. So let's say seven. Okay.

How typically, when you arrive at a party, how much earlier or later are you than you intended? Five minutes. 30 minutes later. 30. Okay. Ready to calculate? Yes. Your perfect arrival time is 58 minutes after the party begins.

That is my ideal arrival time, but I'm usually 30 minutes after my ideal arrival time. It gave me 90 minutes late. It told me to show up 90. They were basically like, yo, you might as well not even

go is it because did you put super uncomfortable by showing up early i don't think i put it like super uncomfortable i think i was like i i was like within a couple of brian on most of these okay i yeah they were just like yeah like, you're not bringing much to the table. Like, I don't I don't know what you're even doing going to this party. But the thing so I I had a friend's birthday dinner. It was eight people. It was at someone's house that is notoriously like shows up hours late to things. So the hosts were notorious. The hosts are notoriously. That's a tricky to things so the hosts were notorious the hosts are notoriously that's a tricky one that's a tricky one i already know i already know how this ends

we also got the time wrong with our babysitter so we showed up like 45 minutes late and it was like the scene in meet the Parents when he wakes up and everyone's already like two hours into their day and just being like, oh, look who decided to join us. Well, well, well, sleepyhead. And, you know, just like. All right, buff the magic dragon. Yeah, half the half the comments were about us being late for like 15 minutes. I mean, that's that's in my mind. It probably was a couple of comments, but it was really a thing

that we were super late and I couldn't believe it. I was like, wow. If I had a kid, I would be five hours late to everything. But they all have kids except for like one person. So that was the fucked up thing.

Now, fuck that. I would have been like, yo, first of of all don't even hit me with that because you straight disrespect every start time of every other fucking event and now suddenly now suddenly i'm supposed to be on the fucking dot no no no no no please tell me how that works also what was the food what was the food it was really i would ask that i would ask that the food was like major domomo. They had catering, the thing.

It was dope. It was catering? Yeah. It was catering. Majordomo catering? God. Yeah. I know.

I want a David Chang catered event. I know. David Chang was not there, but the food was on point. Really good. I did feel, I felt disrespected and now I'm,

and you know, my, my wife still talks about like things that we were late for like you know five years ago so this is like the next time we have a thing to go to we are going to be in the nearest parking lot just like looking at our watches

until the hour strikes midnight and then we're like ringing the doorbell like it sucks when you're like actually early for something but you're like uh i don't want to be 10 15 minutes early so then you like try to kill time and then that makes you like 30 minutes late and you're like what happened how did that happen because man waiting like 15 when you 15 minutes early that is such a horrifying time period we're like that shit might as well be an hour like i'm

not gonna stand like still and just put my life on pause and then reanimate when it's time to go like i would do the same thing brian i'm like fuck it man i'm gonna walk three miles real quick yeah and then by the time i come back it'll be fucking like you say 90 minutes later but also if we have people over 15 minutes the 15 minutes before they're set to arrive is like the time where we are stuffing things in closets, burying things in the backyard. We got a lot of shit to do

right before people arrive. Closing our bodies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, so, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So it's like the early feels like unacceptable. Like on time feels like early to me personally. But I was wrong.

Yeah. In the most recent case. But I think, sorry, I think the reason I was wrong is because it was so few people and it was dinner. It was not like a party, an open-ended party you know right right dinner things are a little bit tough because like there is an intent to eat at a certain time yeah but a party is too open-ended yeah i'm sorry like and also i'm jack i'm more mad that the people who are always late suddenly like they set the fucking tone they weren't the ones who were who were like oh wow it was more you know the well see then they're then they're projecting their frustration

at the hosts onto you that's what i see it's all subconscious yeah i'm sorry jack i would have been your lawyer i'm like why'd you shut up man they're doing the fucking best they can and first of all the whole vibe of this house is that lateness is okay that's like coming to my house and i'm like why'd you shut up man they're doing the fucking best they can and first of all the whole vibe of this house is that lateness is okay that's like coming to my house and i'm like are you smoking weed in my house and you're like oh i just figured because of who the fuck you are this was okay also when your friend stops drinking give them a license to be a little bit late to a party i think i think people are often often excited to turn up and they show up right on time. That's usually the people who are there right on time. They're like, when's the bar open? When do we start drinking? Your friend, give them

a little. Oh, yeah. Especially when you're you stop drinking and stuff. The environment can be very tense. I need you to have a couple of drinks before I show up. That's what, that's where I'm at. One time I showed up to a restaurant late, like all my friends, it was like three of my friends, they were like, they were ready to get the check. And then I showed up and then I like ordered a full meal. That's dog. That's baller move, man. That's one of them did leave one of them did leave stood by okay those are friends yeah yeah you're like this this was a test and you two just passed there you go brian such a pleasure having you as always where can people find you and follow you

uh you can follow me on social at brian B-R-I-A-N underscore B-A-H-E on all platforms. And I'll be in LA Sunday, May 22nd at the Elysian Theater, 7pm. Please come if you're in California.

Yeah. Anywhere in California. There's no excuse. Solo show? Solo show. Doingwhere in California. There's no excuse. No excuse. Solo show? Solo show. Solo. Doing stand-up. Going to maybe do a song or two. Wow.

Just kidding. It would be cool, right? Yeah. I thought about shit. In my mind, you have like a euphonium or some other very esoteric instrument that you play. I don't even know what that is. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, I tried to find it.

I think the guy deleted it, but it was pretty viral for a while. It was just a screen cap of a Grindr exchange. Luckily, I did screen cap it myself. There it is. Should I read it? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

So the other guy, these are two people who don't really, I don't know. All right. So one's like, man, I don't know why you're playing me. The other guy's like, because you won't send a face pic, LOL. And then the guy responds, I will. I'm just, i don't know and then he says i mask latino bearded gordito handsome and i want to give you head and then it's just like and then he responds he replies to himself i'll leave you alone though i get the no pic thing and then like 20 minutes go by and he replies to himself.

You're not even going to fight for me. I'm like, that's it. That's my energy. I related to that. You're not even a fight. This is over before it started. Seriously.

Unfair. Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. Obviously, you already know about Miles and Jack got mad boosties. The Basketball Podcast. Stay tuned.

Possibly a legendary guest. We won't tell you until it is committed and in the can. All our guests are legendary. Yeah, but this one is going was this one's gonna bring tears to my eyes possibly uh but then also check out 420 day fiance with sophia alexandra we talked 90 day fiance uh some tweets that i like first one is from alex murdoch at alex g murd tweeted i've started reading before bed instead of scrolling twitter and not only am i sleeping

really well but i also think I'm better than everyone. Okay. That tracks. And then Caleb Heron, uh, at Caleb says things tweeted. If I was a rapper, you wouldn't be allowed to come on my track and do something culture shifting.

Save that for your album, sweetie on my thing. You can just clock in and sort of be cute with it. I will not be witnessing any Nicki Minaj on monster activity in my booth on this day. That's great. That is something. Kanye was always very generous with letting people just body him on his own tracks.

I don't think those are registering. Yeah, yeah. He was like, yeah, she killed it. Might help that he like just thinks everything he does is so good that he doesn't notice when he's being bothered uh tweet i've been enjoying brooks otter lake tweeted group of drunk boston guys yelling go home avatar avatar avatar at a Navi. Go home avatar. Go home avatar.

Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website Daily dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our

footnotes. Who knows? Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles. Miles. Come on. I say as if I'm a parent mad at you. You already know.

You already know. Which one? You already know. Which one? No, I'm very sure. I honestly, listen to the whole album. All right. We'll just link off to the album. Listen to the whole fucking Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers album. It's one of those things.

It's so dense. It's a dense text. You're not going to get that shit on one listen. Yeah. And for people who already have come to conclusions about the album with within 24 hours wow uh your listening comprehension skills are fantastic but mine hasn't even been 24 hours oh yeah that's true uh well i mean at this point by the time you're hearing it's been many hours so listen to that album or whatever you want but honestly uh

the very first i don't even know there's so much to unpack here but i'll say look start off with united in grief it's the first track on the album just to give your sense some sense of the artistry on this one yeah there's some really like pretty songs on it too oh yeah i'm always there's always like that one track where it's like very pretty and yeah always takes me a little bit by surprise not because

Kendrick's not a great musician but because it's just like damn that is like the prettiest song I've heard all year

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