The Daily Zeitgeist - Petromasculinity? Metaverse NOT Lit Enough? 3.31.22

Episode Date: March 31, 2022

In episode 1216, Miles and guest co-host Jacquis Neal are joined by comedian Paige Weldon to discuss… Trump calls Tyrone (Putin), PETROMASCULINITY!!!!!!, Oh cool Wendy’s is FINALLY openin...g in the metaverse…what? and more! Trump calls Tyrone (Putin) Trump Was 100% Making Phone Calls During The Jan. 6 Attack: Here’s The List PETROMASCULINITY!!!!!! Oh cool Wendy’s is FINALLY opening in the metaverse…what? Follow: @paigeweldon ALBUM: Girlfriend at the Time by Paige Weldon LISTEN: De I Comahlee Ah by Jackie McLean & Michael CarvinSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.
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Starting point is 00:01:57 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet. Welcome to Season 230, Episode 4 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. Yes, it's the podcast where we take a deep fucking dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, March 31st, 2022. Not only is it National Crayon Day, not only is it National Prom Day, it is the debut, the premiere of Miles and Jack Got Boosties, an NBA podcast with none other than very special guest Jack Heath-Neal, who we will get to in a moment.
Starting point is 00:02:37 So for those listeners of the Daily Zeitgeist who say, why do they keep talking about basketball? Well, now we have a podcast where we will only talk basketball. And we have some great, hilarious guests coming up. So please check out Matt Boosty's. You know, subscribe. Leave a review. You know, support the friends that you have made parasocial relationships with via this podcast. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Don't go talking basketball. Please stick to the news events and trends that you're used to. Surely you'll crush the coverage and take Stephen A's job. But we think you're working too hard. Y'all don't hear me. Okay, shout out TLC Waterfalls. Shout out Cool Cool Sweet Sweet on Discord for that wonderful AKA. Yeah, maybe we're working too on Discord for that wonderful AKA. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:29 maybe we're working too hard. I don't know. When you just talk out loud all the time, you lose track of time. But enough about me. Time to bring in the guest co-host this week, the guest co-host with the mo-host. You know him from podcast, comedy, acting, you've probably heard his voice places as this man's VO career is taking on. I am thrilled to introduce my co-host today, Trey from Chicago, via Los Angeles, or Los Angeles via Chicago, however you say that. Please welcome John Keyes Neal! I've been so many places in my life and time. many places in my life and time. I've sung a lot of songs. Will Smith smacked me a couple times.
Starting point is 00:04:17 He keeps doing it on stages with 10,000 people watching. But we're alone now. And Joc, he's singing this song for you. Oh, what up, niggas? We're back. Here we are. We're back. We are here.
Starting point is 00:04:37 It's going to be nothing but Will Smith and Chris Rock related songs all week. All week. And don't expect any talk about this. Don't expect nothing else. Nothing else. Hello, Miles Gray. How are you today i'm well you know the the sun has risen on another day of terrible twitter takes uh and it's bad man it's bad and you know what else is bad too man like you you we were talking about this before how we wake up and doom scroll and also you know for those of us who don't sleep well with insomnia you also wake up with like little headaches and shit and so you doom scrolling
Starting point is 00:05:09 you like i got covet and then you do scrolling and you got and it's just you just have a terrible start to your fucking morning and then you get up out of the bed and everything is fine but that's where i get out of the bed just don't look at trying i mean just gotta honestly i've not i've not come up against a harder challenge than trying to spend 30 minutes straight from when i wake up and not look at my phone it's been true it's like i have to like put in another part of house or some shit i have to put it like a 30 minute drive away from my house just so by default i'll spend 30 minutes not looking at it but it's a work in progress you know what i mean as will smith says it's it, but it's a work in progress. You know what I mean? As Will Smith says, it's a work in progress.
Starting point is 00:05:46 It's a work. Yes, it's a work in progress for all us vessels. Exactly. And that's right. We're all just trying to be a vessel. Now, we got to bring in our guests. We got to introduce our guests. Our guest today, you've heard her before on this show.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And maybe you've even heard me on her other podcast, Mall Talk, which isn't happening anymore, but still a stellar podcast because mall culture is huge for me. And to have a show that is so dedicated to mall culture and its importance is fantastic. If you don't know from the podcast, you've probably seen her doing comedy. You maybe have seen something she's written on. She's been places like The Late Late Show, On Comedy Central, Things You've Heard Of. I've never been to those places, only through association because I know people who work at those places, but not my stinking ass would never be there. I am thrilled and honored to introduce today's guest, the hilarious and talented Paige Weldon! Oh, hello.
Starting point is 00:06:41 How are you? How are you? I'm good. I was actually just, I was just thinking about how this morning I woke up and I guess I must have forgot last night, not to brag, but I'm usually up past midnight, but I forgot to do the Wordle. And I woke up this morning and it was like, something to do on my phone that isn't looking at Instagram or Twitter. Like, thank God. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Just keep it Wordle. Just keep it Wordle. Just keep it Wordle. I was like, I do the Wordle every morning. Every morning when I wake up, it is probably the first thing I do now. And I missed my first one yesterday. I was,
Starting point is 00:07:14 I, Oh, yeah. How long was your streak? It was shale. Get the fuck, I'm tired of these double letter words. I don't like them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I like them. Wait, how long, how long of a streak did you have on Wordle? 80. Oh, shit. 80. Okay. So you were really doing it. I was mad, bro. Wow. I was so mad. them yeah i like it wait how long how long of a streak did you have on 80 oh shit 80 okay so you were really doing i was mad bro i was so mad do they give you like a medal like when you hit like 100 or something or it's just it's just for your own pride oh man no they they send you cocaine when you hit 100 yeah the dark secret of wordle yeah this is the dark secret of wordle they send
Starting point is 00:07:43 you cocaine when you get 100. Now I'm not going to get my cocaine this summer, man. Right. Now you got to take a bunch of Claritin D to get that little. Now I got to take some Claritin D. Have y'all played Hurdle yet? I have. I lost it today.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Oh, I've fucking. I had a few shaky starts the last two days i've been killing it hurdle is the game where it plays one second of the first second of a song and it reveals more and more of a song and you have to just go right there how much of a song do you know right off the rip oh my god are they always like top 40 is it like really like big songs yeah for example like yesterday was get your freak on by missy elliott okay but a lot of people were thrown off because they had never heard the that is the beginning of the song i was like what are you talking about you've never heard that that is the beginning of the song i i saw people being like i've never heard this version i'm like did
Starting point is 00:08:42 you use lime wire because i felt like everybody who downloaded that shit off kazar or whatever had it with the and for me in jap like being the black and east kid i was like yo this is japanese and they're like what and they're like what they're saying i'm like yo they're basically saying like we're about to turn up starting right now yeah anyway uh hit paper so i'm picturing that um not sure if you guys remember the beginning of that some 41 album that starts like that where they it's like a devil voice being and it concludes and being like and the sum was 41 do you remember that no no the only some 41 i was only getting the the hits off of the mtv fair enough, I was only getting the hits off of the MTV. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah. I was only getting, I was only getting the hits on, on, on not even, I was about to say BET, but that was, that would have been inaccurate. If they were on BET, you know, that, that might've been something. They didn't have Derek Wibley on there. What was their first hit? Was it the one? I don't want to waste my time victim of the conformity yeah there you go see i know i know like the general energy of some you know i actually i like some 41 and then then I did this podcast, Stand By Your Band, where I wanted to do Green Day. I don't know if you've ever done that podcast or listened to it.
Starting point is 00:10:10 It's Tom Takar and Tommy McNamara. They have you defend like a, you know, sort of shit on band, you know, like, I'm not going to say they're bad necessarily. I know you have some defending to do. You could hold it down on that show too. Well, I wanted to hop on and do Green Day. And then Tom told me that he thought that they were actually too well regarded. And I said, that's not true. I feel like people really hate on Green Day.
Starting point is 00:10:34 But what about these other bands? And then I ended up doing Sum 41. And it really made me revisit their discography. Yeah. And did you have a hard time defending them i did well you know the thing is they have a first like their first couple are fun and then they really go off the rails oh right you know all killer no filler is a good time but then it gets right right oh man i don't know who i would do on that it's not a band but i would do like jason but then it gets out of control. Right, right, right. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I don't know who I would do on that. It's not a band, but I would do like Jason Mraz or some shit. That's what I was saying. I know you've always gone to bat for Jason Mraz, and I was like, I've never heard somebody fully articulate a good defense. You know, I can't. How am I going to get mad? Pointed out all the good shit about Jason Mraz.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I got to revisit him. Exactly him exactly all right so let's give people a sneak peek at what we're going to be talking about trump uh is off and gone and calling out putin's name saying help me because he's in a bit of controversy many controversies so he's decided to go with the worst possible backup plan ever, which is call out for Vladimir Putin's help in the midst of all this chaos. Okay. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about something called petro masculinity, which is something I saw in this article regarding like turnoffs with like this intersection of like masculinity and as it relates to climate change and how that's a big deal breaker in the dating world. Climate change is actually a
Starting point is 00:12:05 huge topic in the online dating world. And then we'll also talk about the cool new Wendy's that's opening up in the metaverse and maybe some other shit, but I still don't understand this metaverse shit. And the more I read it, I'm like, how did anyone think this is a good idea? So we'll talk about all that and more. But first, Paige, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay. I recently searched Taylor Swift hair change. Okay. And this is because I was talking to a friend about a hair product I was excited about that I have found at Marshalls. Okay. And I was talking about how I, when I was younger, my hair was like very curly. And as I've gotten older, it's more like wavy,
Starting point is 00:12:53 a little bit, a little bit curly, but it was like bouncy, like tight curls and it just faded. And my friend was like, isn't that what happened to Taylor Swift? Didn't she talk about that? And I was like, I've been joking for a long time that me and Taylor Swift have the same hair journey. I didn't know. I thought, but I thought she was just choosing to have wavy or straight hair. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:14 But then I Googled it and it was part of like when she did that weird article before she turned 30 about like the things I've learned as I've turned 30, which I guess I kind of dipped out of because I love Taylor Swift but I was like I can't I don't think I can read this list of things she's learned I just have to you know sometimes you gotta check out on her um but it turns out that is what happened her hair just changed and I think it's like a hormonal thing you just your your chemistry changes over the years but i had to confirm yeah yeah and it wasn't anything else you could like are there explanations i'm sure it's like
Starting point is 00:13:51 with age i remember when i was a baby i have super i like wavy hair and then it got super curly and then it got wavy when i hit puberty and then it fell out so you know it was a bit of a tough hair journey but i'm still looking for explanations me too and i always thought with taylor swift i thought it was like maybe i guess it could be that she probably had a lot of different treatments on her hair over the years just straightening it all the time but i looked it up and other people experience this too your hair just changes yeah oh somebody said becca was like it becca was like your hormones your your hormones change every seven to ten years but like at what age does
Starting point is 00:14:31 that start what age does that start because everybody says that like you know how like your taste buds change every seven to ten years your hormones things change but at what age right she all right she was like she's saying 20 okay okay so i'm like i'm like two flips in that feels accurate to me if if it's every seven to ten years i mean if we're going to be charitable and we'll say on the seven i've had two flips then for since 20 yeah so when was the last time maybe when i was 34 yeah it feels accurate to me because i feel like maybe like around like 27 is when my hair like stopped having the same curl to it right that feels true oh okay well see for the last seven for the last seven years i've just like
Starting point is 00:15:12 had like a fro ish type hair so like i'm scared to cut my hair now because if i do i feel like once i cut it i might have like a george jefferson going on and you don't know right like some people, when they finally cut all their hair, then they can't grow back anymore. Yeah. That shit happens, man.
Starting point is 00:15:31 That shit happens. Just get that shit really wet, you know, and have, have a good friend, comb your hair and look, look for you. Part of it was in my head that like during the pandemic,
Starting point is 00:15:41 like I, my hair got so long. I was like, it was like, it got even worse because there was weight on it. The weight, right. The whole thing with curling. I'm sure, I don't know if you guys know about, I think it's called plopping or something. Where girls will, or anyone with long hair will put their hair up in a towel so it doesn't have weight on it while it's drying.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And it'll make it curlier. Okay. It's a whole universe. make it curlier. Okay. Yeah. It's a whole universe of methods. Universe. I'll never know. I will say this too. Every time I hear the name Taylor Swift and look,
Starting point is 00:16:17 I got nothing against Taylor Swift. I like a couple of songs. I'm never here to hate on T-Swizzle, but my favorite piece of shade of all time in the history of shade was that interview with Aretha Franklin where like the interviewer was asking her about different artists today. And she was like, oh, tell me about Adele. And Aretha was like, oh, you know, just a beautiful voice. And then they get to Taylor Swift and she like nods her head. A beautiful gown
Starting point is 00:16:45 that's so funny too because I do not feel like Taylor Swift's general style is really one of her strengths it's not that's the shade I wasn't going gonna say the voice so she had to go to fucking gowns she just remembered a picture she saw recently or something yes aretha hit that those notes in trouble with just a little soul to it wow have a whole different
Starting point is 00:17:19 dimension oh and who is your friend that told you about tay's hair journey? My friend, Emily, who I used to host Mall Talk with. I was like, it was that or maybe Ellie McElvain, the other person who anytime I mention Taylor Swift, I get bombarded with information. But, you know, that's why she has a podcast. If you fuck with Taylor Swift, please check out Ellie's podcast because that shit will do you right. Okay. I'm on the very first episode of Ellie's podcast. I was honored because ellie and i we of course went to the famously went to the reputation tour together
Starting point is 00:17:50 and okay it was one of the best nights of my life there it is see what's something you think is overrated page okay i always struggle with this because i don't want to you know i don't want to yuck anyone's yum okay but I was thinking about this the other day because it was a rainy day I would say rainy days in Southern California I feel like people go oh it's so rare we get to you know it's a cozy day and when I was younger I grew up in Southern California I feel like I loved it I was like an opportunity you know to be dramatic or whatever but now I'm like I'm an adult and I have like errands to run. And I'm just annoyed.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And I just, it was driving me crazy. I was like, I just want to go like return this thing and it's going to get all wet. And I think like in LA and Southern California, I guess, you know, because I grew up with rain. Miles, you guess, you know, cause you know, I grew up with rain miles. You're from here too, right? You're from SoCal, right?
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah. So you both are from SoCal. So like the thing about it is what pisses me off is people don't know how to act in the rain out here. Yeah. That's the thing is like, people don't know how to drive anymore in the rain. People don't know like what to do and it just gets it's annoying like because you know it rains in chicago right people just
Starting point is 00:19:11 go up people still driving 90 on the freeway oh yeah when i was there in the winter i was like what if there's snow out here and people are fucking gunning it but that's my soft california ass being like weather oh yeah and like la and like most cities in Southern California are just like not built for it. Like everything's got giant puddles. And like I was making fun of my friend who's from Connecticut, but she's lived out here for a long time. And she was like, oh, I'm at this thing and my socks are all wet. And I was like, what shoes are you wearing? And she told me she was wearing Vans.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And I was like, you've gone full SoCal. Because that was what we did. Growing up here, you don't really need good shoes for rain. Because it almost never happens. So you just go to school and just get your Vans soaked. And I was like, you've fully become part of the Southern California culture. I didn't have a rain jacket until I was like, you fully become part of the Southern California culture. I didn't have like a rain jacket till I was like 30. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I like still don't really have shoes that are good for rain. I just have shoes that are slightly okay. I just got some a year ago. Yeah. And I'm like, man, maybe I'll wear them one day. Yeah. But even now I have that bad habit of being the kid who was wringing his socks out in class. Like that used to be me.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah. Well, not like, you know, know right there i would do it over the trash can i want to see your sock juice going out to the hey look i did it anyway i did it in the science lab you know where it makes sense like to do it there and i'm like an english class it's part of a project right just see how much volume I got in this sock today. Nasty. Nasty. Also, it's so weird, too. Like, I have a personal trainer.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Like, we work out outside most of the time. Like, since, you know, during COVID. But he has a little indoor area where he can work out. And the day before it rained, I was like, hey, so tomorrow it's supposed to rain all day. So, like, we're going inside, right? He inside right he was like oh yeah if you want to like yeah nigga i want to it's supposed to rain all day what you mean if i won't not light rain either it was pouring right yeah it was wet officer in a gentleman shit out here in the rain doing your push-ups let's go yeah we ain't going to war bro i just want to like lose a couple lbs exactly just please just i need it i don't want to get fully inundated with
Starting point is 00:21:35 water underrated page what is something that you think is fucking underrated okay i want to bring this up because i'm hoping it could maybe open a larger conversation about rom-coms and what we like in rom-coms. Okay, this happens to me all the time. I see a movie and I enjoy myself and then I find out people think it's stupid or the flip. It's like, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:58 that sucked and everyone loves it. And I really had a great time seeing Marry Me, the new J-Lo movie. Marry me, marry me, say yes. Marry me, marry me, say yes. I think it's underrated. Is that the theme song to the movie?
Starting point is 00:22:16 Oh, yes. That's the titular song to the film. They performed it so many times. I don't know which version I like. The one from the film the one that they did like irl at the performance i page i'm kind of with you on this i don't know why i barely like it takes a lot for me to take my ass to see a film that's been released i will watch if something i perceive to be like quote unquote shitty or campy i'm fucking there yes immediately
Starting point is 00:22:47 be like quote-unquote shitty or campy i'm fucking there yes immediately and i saw what i saw marry me like maybe five days after it came out yeah it's so bad it's good yes exactly and it's like i feel like i'm realizing that unless a movie is actually funny like say like a forgetting sarah marshall i rather it just be like mostly rom with like sprinkles of calm, which I feel like marry me has. It's like mostly just kind of like a cheesy movie with like, and then like there's little moments of comic relief, but yeah, like I saw the lost city.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Right. It was like, fine. I was like, this is more trying to be funny than it is trying to be like cute and i was like this is a rom-com i didn't know that i thought it was a movie about i don't know ancient war some shit i know when i saw it i was like it's not uncharted but with fucking i literally couldn't remember the title i kept being like the the sandra bullock movie like
Starting point is 00:23:45 i was like i can't remember what it's called yeah okay okay yes okay okay because yeah i want to see lost city and i and i and but for different reasons because you'll say it's fun it's like it's got all these things going on but like marry me when people say oh you lost the first reaction when i tell people i saw was oh you watched that i got the same reaction where it's like oh i heard it's like terrible they don't have good chemistry and i'm like yeah yeah it's not like a sexy movie but it's also it's just funny to see owen wilson trying to pull j-lo and you're like like, this is so incongruent. There's nothing I can like. Even like the setup doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:24:31 The moment where he's like proposing by really just passively. Oh, yeah. And it's like, you have no reason to say yes, Owen Wilson. This woman just said, I'll marry you. You have no motivation going into this scene to suggest that you want to be married but then you get married and i'm like fuck it i love how i love that nobody even gave a fuck about even that most basic premise of storytelling i think his motivation was twofold miles i think one he wanted his daughter to think he was cool right that's the whole reason he was at the concert in the first place okay begrudgingly right secondly he felt for her in
Starting point is 00:25:05 that moment he didn't want to embarrass her so he said yes and i think that's what that's what went that's what went into it and even then that's a huge reach but i love it yeah owen wilson owen wilson low-key be pulling these be pulling these fine-ass women in these movies he had rachel mcadams yeah twice wedding crashers uh y'all ever see hall pass you remember that movie hall pass no but i in these fine-ass women in these movies. He had Rachel McAdams twice. Wedding Crashers. Y'all ever see Hall Pass? You remember that movie, Hall Pass? No, but I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, the girl he pulling that,
Starting point is 00:25:32 boy, she fine as hell. What? Owen Wilson, you can't stop. And then J-Lo, come on. Owen Wilson is the poster child for, damn, she with him? That's kind of what the movie is. Oh, totally. of that but there is like the the cheesiness i love that was kind of you know what it is it reminds you of shit from the 80s and 90s yes we're like the jobs weren't rooted in reality even the portrayal of
Starting point is 00:26:02 these things were not rooted in reality you're just like yeah she's a pop star that's what she does she sits in a glass high-rise suite and someone does her hair while she texts and that's why she's busy today and i'm like yeah fuck it simpler times and he's a teacher and that's likable and that's enough they go okay he's nice and that's all there is about him. Sarah Silverman's his friend. What more do we have to say here? He's fuckable. It's very formulaic in the way that I wanted it to be.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah, exactly. It was satisfying. Yeah. I love a good rom-com. Would you guys have a favorite rom-com that comes to mind? I love One Fine Day. Oh, that's a good one. One one one fine day oh i don't know if i've seen that one oh with george clooney and michelle pfeiffer looks like i know what i'm doing tonight i'll be checking it out i don't even know why i only say that because it was like i went on a date in sixth grade that was like one of the
Starting point is 00:27:01 first movies i went on a date to see yeah Yeah. Shout out Kristen, who went with me. And yeah, now that's kind of, so that's been implanted in my mind. But I like a few. What about you, Jaquese? I have two that are like top for me. Hitch. Hitch is one of my favorite movies. And My Best Friend's Wedding.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Classic. Classic rom-com. Very classic. Classic. Classic rom-com. Very classic. Yeah. I guess you can consider Forgetting Sarah Marshall a rom-com, but I do forget that that's technically a rom-com. I love Forgetting Sarah Marshall. It is a rom-com.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Forgetting Sarah Marshall is so fucking good. It's so fucking good. It is very good. It's so good that you forget it's like two and a half hours long. You're like, it's so good. It's so good that you forget it's like two and a half hours long. You're like, yeah, it's so good. I think my favorite has to be 10 things I hate about you.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I just love that movie. It's just, it's so good. Okay. I've seen it the most, I feel. Yeah. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:28:01 And then the best man. Maybe it might be. The best man. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. The Best Man. Maybe it might be another one. The Best Man, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Is that a comedy? Is that a comedy? Maybe I'm thinking of that last one, that last sad one.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Like somebody died or some shit. It was like The Best Man's Funeral or some shit. Oh, oh. The follow-up um yeah the rom-coms though they're just i think it's the same reason why i like holiday movies like bad christmas movies because they're predictable they're not going to throw me off they're not going to challenge me emotionally yep like art would yeah exactly if there's a place for people people under talk about underrated is the concept of just watchability like it doesn't have to be incredible sometimes you just want to watch something you just want to watch something absolutely i reject that in order to enjoy move i i reject that in order to enjoy movies they have to be good
Starting point is 00:29:04 I reject that in order to enjoy movies, they have to be good. Like, that's a weird notion to me. It's just up to you. Yeah. Like, whatever the fuck you want. It just has to be enjoyable. Justin is asking, the Princess Bride count? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I think so. Of course. Yeah. There's romance at the center of it. I mean, I guess it's tough because a lot of movies do just have you know a romantic storyline and then you start to get into the weeds of like is this like a classic rom-com i think princess brad's been so long since i watched it but yeah it's been qualified yeah i think so i think you can put that in there why not why not all right um let's take a quick break and we'll come back to talk about the news right after this i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary
Starting point is 00:29:56 series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7m films and shekinah church and we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling, first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
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Starting point is 00:34:25 in the spotlight again the week. Don't worry, it didn't go too far because the records he turned over to the January 6th committee has a total black hole of information. We touched on this on the trending episode the other day, but this call the missing call logs. There's a fucking like gigantic, nearly eight hour hole in the call logs on the day of January 6th. OK, so just read an excerpt from, I think, believe the Washington Post said, quote, the lack of an official White House notation of any calls placed to or by Trump for four hundred fifty seven minutes from eleven seventeen to six fifty four p.m. on January 6th means there is no record of the calls made by Trump as his supporters descended on the Capitol, battled, overwhelmed police and forcibly entered the building, prompting lawmakers and Vice Vice President Mike Pence to flee for safety.
Starting point is 00:35:12 It's been I mean, at this point, it's we know Trump was talking to people. It's been widely reported that people have been on the phone. I tried to get him on the phone, spoke to him on january 6th begging him to fucking call off these people so that much is no so everyone's like well then what the fuck's going on i think the likely conclusion is that this dude was you know pretending that he was on his fucking the wire shit and he decided to switch it up to burner phones to circumvent the presidential call logs because as president you're supposed to fucking you know track all of this shit because it's part of your administration it factors into the
Starting point is 00:35:50 decision making as president and we all know certain things right like there are certain things that are 100 undeniable like jim jordan from ohio congressman jim jordan fucking spoke to donald trump We know that because this dude has said multiple times, like very nervously, because he didn't was like, oh, shit, I'm not fucking myself up by admitting this, has said, oh, yeah, I spoke to Donald Trump on the 6th. So I want to clear it up. First off, yes or no, did you speak with President Trump on January 6th? Yeah, I mean, I speak, I spoke with the president last week. I speak with the president all the time. I spoke with him on January 6th. I mean, I talk with President Trump all the time. And that's that's I don't think that's unusual. I would expect members of Congress
Starting point is 00:36:34 to talk with the president of the United States when they're trying to get done the things they told the voters in their district to do. I'm actually kind of amazed sometimes. the voters in their district to do uh i i'm i'm actually kind of amazed sometimes oh shit was i not supposed to say that part so we knew that he spoke to the president on that day also i would uh i would venture to say that most people in congress don't fucking talk to the president that's a lot of people right that's a lot of it's like 500 some people like that nigga ain't talking to everybody i wouldn't want to leave me alone that's why i got secretaries and chiefs of staffs and stuff for it like so stop lying exactly it's only the thirstiest most loyal white supremacists who have no spine who talk to the president that's kind of the the sort of yeah i talked to him at 11 18 and uh like yeah
Starting point is 00:37:27 i guess that's weirdly when the records stop but i'm not sure and then again like at seven when the records started up again but yeah those are our usual times we usually talk so so then we also know he spoke to kevin mccarthy the minority leader at the time during the fucking attack. There are other like numerous representatives from the House were like, yeah, I was there when McCarthy was trying to talk to Trump when we were in the Capitol scared. That was a real thing. We know he spoke to Tommy Tuberville. We know he spoke to Mike Lee. We know he spoke to so many fucking people that day.
Starting point is 00:38:05 So it all just makes it clear that there was a coordinated rat fuckery party underway on the January on January 6th, as if that wasn't clear enough based on everything we were hearing come out of this person's mouth and the people around him during this time. And so many prosecutors have said, you know, the one thing about this is that this kind of blows a hole in one of his potential defenses in this shit, which is many people have speculated that he may use this defense that he really believed that the election was being stolen. stupid and just passionate. And he was actually acting in good faith when he did all of these things because he seriously thought that the election was, you know, being illegally taken from him. And most of these prosecutors point out, they said, you know, that that works to a certain point. But when you point to the fact that you're using burner phones and having huge gaps in your official communication logs on the day in question, it kind of almost makes it seem that the people involved knew that they needed to conceal their actions on some level.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And then it's hard to say, well, he was doing this in good faith, because if he was, he would have done it with his chest out on the call logs rather than be like, OK, man, we got to keep this shit secret, because if they start putting shit together, the whole fucking thing's a wrap. So it's a very, very murky situation at the moment. It's a very, it's a very funny thing, man. You know, like I know this is five years ago at this six years ago at this point. Shit, we're all old. But the whole, but our emails stuff, you know, and it just cracks me up that we literally, well, he resigned, but we're about to impeach a president
Starting point is 00:39:46 who resigned for something like this, like keeping shit off the record, right? Which is why a lot of these presidential records are a thing because everything needs to be transparent. And you have six out, you know how I could take, I could do drugs and get very high and become sober again any amount of time that trump didn't have his calls on the record like that is so egregious
Starting point is 00:40:18 that's so egregious to any any of the let any of these republicans who aren't saying anything about this like this isn't we're who are also complaining about the emails. Let like their kids or their significant other go off the map for seven hours when they weren't expecting them to let that shit happen. They'll be like, hold on, hold on, hold on. Like, right. It's just it's so egregious. And I don't understand how you can. egregious and I don't understand how you can the other thing to speak to that point right that everybody who's been around Trump is like this dude cannot put his phone down he is addicted to the phone there's no way they're like I can't even imagine an hour goes by where this dude isn't holding or talking on a phone that's just not who he is so there's so many things that
Starting point is 00:41:05 you're just like this goes against everything we know but i guess this is the hand that they have to play because it's it's just so transparently corrupt but again we're all sitting here being like i don't know are they gonna fucking do something though like is that like an option here and i know that people are saying just wait to see what the doj is doing wait to see but i'm not trying to wait and see from like the you know re-education camp because i was talking too spicy on the internet when the fucking trump 2 takes over like what the fuck are they doing you know what this makes me think of and i hate to paraphrase somebody else's bit but do you know the comedian Sean Grant?
Starting point is 00:41:46 He's hilarious. He just had a set come out on Don't Tell. He used to do this joke, and maybe he doesn't even do it anymore, about the amount of time you can not text someone back. And the phrase he repeats is, that's dis-re-textful if you don't text back. Dis-re-textful, right. And he he goes and don't tell me you were at work because
Starting point is 00:42:08 and because i was thinking about like six hours that's like a shift like someone could work a shift in the amount of time that trump was off the grid yeah seriously yeah and not even a fun shift that's shit. That's the shit for you. Like, God damn, when I'm getting off, man. I still have three more hours. Jesus. They're doing a key bumps and just watching the news, dancing and shit. What the fuck has my life become? So anyway, because of all this attention, it became clear that, you know, like we said, crime is clear as day. became clear that, you know, like we said, crime is clear as day. So it makes sense that now Trump is trying to smoke bomb his way out of it and immediately fucking pivots on calling Tyrone Putin
Starting point is 00:42:54 because he is asking him, help me, Putin, please. Dig up this dirt on Hunter Biden. This man really just begged. Let me just play this clip where he's out. He's like laying out this previously unheard of allegation where a Russian oligarch who used to be the wife of the mayor of Moscow gave Hunter Biden like millions of dollars. And one thing while I'm on your show, as long as Putin now is not exactly a fan of our country, let him explain where did, because Chris Wallace wouldn't let me ask the question, why did the mayor of Moscow's wife give the Bidens,
Starting point is 00:43:37 both of them, three and a half million dollars? That's a lot of money. She gave him three and a half million dollars. So now I would think Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer. Now, I don't know what else he's going to say there, but his makeup is not even on good in this clip. I'm going to say that is an indicator of, I see that as something not working well because he's like an inch away from his hairline.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Like it really looks like he just he just dipped his face in a bowl of makeup and then just stopped at a certain point because he never gets it around his eyes. But while all of this stammering goes on, he's saying, hey, maybe Putin knows. I don't know, man. That guy's pretty cool, right? No. hey uh maybe putin knows i don't know man that guy's pretty cool right no huh i don't know what i don't exactly sure what his strategy is here because most people are saying like it doesn't make sense on any level it doesn't make sense politically right because you're not going to then be like hey uh satan why don't you have my back over here or like whatever the this person is a pariah globally at the moment so So to align yourself doesn't help anything. It's not like it's not even popular.
Starting point is 00:44:47 The war isn't popular at all. So what is it for? Just your ego? Also, the funny, the funniest way to start a sentence. Since you don't like America right now, why don't you go ahead and help a brother out? Because I don't like America either. I'm not exactly a fan of our country. I'm not a fan either.
Starting point is 00:45:04 So, you know, we're on the same wavelength. Why don't you go ahead and help a brother out? Like, stupid. It's so stupid. Oh, my God. It's funny. I mean, listen, if Donald Trump was not in every possible way a danger to, you know, what he represents and his term and everything, wasn't a danger to society as far as policy and toxic way of thinking uh he would be the funniest politician of all time because like i think we all
Starting point is 00:45:35 agree if only he was the mayor of some inconsequential place yeah because it is it is like this shit he says is parody. You don't need a parody of Donald Trump because he is a parody all by himself. And it's very funny. That's the genius of the art. Of this performance art that he's engaged in.
Starting point is 00:46:00 It's really something else. Let's actually switch gears really quick to talk about this. This OKCupid polling that came out that has been widely discussed, especially because it sort of aligns with other polls that have come from like dating sites. When they're just trying to do a quick vibrational check on the users of the apps and their services. users of the apps and their services. And this latest sort of survey that they did with their users, you know, they stumbled upon an issue that unites and divides potential mates more than anything, which turns out it's climate change. They say climate change or climate denial, quote, was the biggest deal breaker for users on the popular dating app,
Starting point is 00:46:40 surpassing differences on gun control, and other issues over the past year the app has asked 250 000 people if it was important that a potential paramour care about the planet and 90 said it was so that's pretty good 90 of people are like yeah if you don't fucking acknowledge earth death like in general how are going to like be good at anything that involves paying attention to me or having a future? and looking at the dire fucking straits we're in and like the lack of movement around anything not only has it negatively impacted their emotions but just impacted their ability to enjoy just their day-to-day life because it's something that's like looming in the back of their head and i'm like okay yeah that that makes sense you don't want to you don't want something that you're freaking it's like it's like racism right if you're like i don't want to be with somebody who's like racism's not
Starting point is 00:47:44 real i'm like well hold the we're not looking at the same fucking universe so i get the idea too for something like climate change that is so it's an existential threat that you're you know people are looking for this kind of overlap you know it's interesting that it ranks higher than certain other issues that they like that's what Like you said, abortion is like less, but I guess. Yeah. Because if you're not religious, then you're like,
Starting point is 00:48:12 sure. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I mean, this is just a snapshot, you know, I'm not on.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Okay. Cupid or nothing like that. So I can't speak to, you know, the, the clientele that they have. And I also care about the planet. I care about climate change. You can't speak to you know the the clientele that they have and i also care about the planet i care about climate change you know i you know i want this planet to survive for
Starting point is 00:48:32 my great great great great great great grandchildren i'll never know but right you know listen you know if if we about to get down and she like, I don't think the earth is warming. I'm still going to tap that ass. And then, you know, I probably won't come back. You know what I'm saying? I probably won't come back. But get the fuck out of here. So this isn't a mate.
Starting point is 00:48:55 What do you mean? Oh, like a relationship? I'm trying to formulate a joke in my head. And maybe you guys can help me with this. There's something to this is a new version of hot or not. You know, this is like some kind of the like i can't quite come up with what i want to say but you you get it okay right i get what you're saying how do we i'm just saying like what page said no i this is this is on the if there's a lot of stuff you can say in the bedroom like
Starting point is 00:49:24 that would make me be like all right we gotta go and climate change is probably lower on that list i kind of feel like these people taking this survey just there's also an element of like wanting to look like a good person you know being like i would never date somebody if they said that they're like i'm currently in a relationship with a diesel engine uh but that's a whole other story and i mean it's complicated and you know we have a history and yeah and it was like it was my grandpa's truck and like that's a whole other like hour of story don't worry about it but the thing like you're saying though this isn't you do kind of
Starting point is 00:50:00 have to look at this in its context right right? Because these aren't necessarily indicative of the entire country. These are people who are on a dating app and users tend to skew. Like the average age is around 32, 33. They're typically living in cities. Cause those are the people mostly using that are on like, okay, Cuba or other dating apps.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And also to, to your point, your keys, they're not looking just for this smash. They're looking for an eternal life of smashing. So I get you. Look, who among us hasn't heard some weird shit that you don't agree with? And you're like, well, I'm not going to let this.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Like, honestly, I'll compromise my beliefs in this moment because I don't want to be alone right now. As the world is ending, by the way, you know. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You're with a person and you're debating why the world's ending as it's ending yeah yeah they're fucking hot though so this is just the the person that literally literally the world is ending around you and the person you're with is like but this is just the
Starting point is 00:50:57 natural cycle that the earth goes through this has happened before right and it's actually getting cooler so global warming is like confused like that's not what's happening no this is a nuclear winter basically what we're experiencing and that's and they said it was warming right so it'll get hot again and it's like you girls are always cold so i don't even know don't steal my hoodie in the apocalypse so you know when you look at like sort of the gap between like men and women who are like looking at this it there isn't much of a difference like both men and women that were surveyed in this were saying like yes it's important where they look asking non-binary people maybe not so much because this is a you know it's okay cupid it's
Starting point is 00:51:41 not they're not necessarily have like maybe the most inclusive polling infrastructure. But when you look at this though, there's a lot of people like in a few articles talking about this polling stuff, they bring up this concept of like petro-masculinity, that there's this inherent interconnectedness between like sexism, climate denial, and authoritarian politics. Not that it's like a nailed on thing but it is something that you see intersect a lot and i think you see that already with the kinds like big truck culture you know like trucks are basically almost exclusively marketed towards like men i know people who buy trucks who don't even they're not even in like doing some fucking hard construction shit they just like a big fucking truck and that's that's fine that's
Starting point is 00:52:25 their shit but like you know like rolling coal and like drill baby drill all this shit have all these sort of like you know like they're they're they have this masculine energy to them or they're being presented as sort of masculine ideals like if you blow fucking black exhaust out of your car that you're more of a man than someone who drives a fucking hybrid right but that is true though miles that is just true what you just said yeah you're well and look we saw marjorie taylor green say it herself electric cars are gay okay i mean listen she's she's the authority right you know oh she's elected for a reason right right to be the arbiter of what is masculine and not and you also like look at these like truck commercials too like you almost think
Starting point is 00:53:12 that having like biceps the size of christmas hams were like a fucking prerequisite to owning like a gigantic truck or whatever um not to say that everybody who drives a truck is bought in on this but that's just the way certain things are like marketed. Right. Yeah. And you even look at how like when the Green New Deal was was being touted, everyone immediately focused their energy like AOC is a fucking witch who's going to take away my big monster truck tires and hamburgers. And I hate this shit. emberders and i hate this shit and you can already see like how you know like how greta thunberg is even constantly in the crosshairs of like conservative like hyper misogynist conservative
Starting point is 00:53:51 movements and shit like that that you're kind of like oh yeah there is this sort of you see it kind of swirling together there is this interesting thing that it even you know affects you know the idea that like caring about the earth is like feminine or less masculine. There was a Penn state study that found that like cishet men were reluctant to engage in quote eco-friendly behaviors, like carrying reusable shopping bags for fear of appearing feminine or gay. The more important it was to a man that he be perceived as straight, the more wary he was about engaging in these small acts of care for the planet wait a minute so they're saying that it's gay to um have like like shopping bags like when you buy shit this this poll has found that it's clear that there is a group of men whose masculinity is so
Starting point is 00:54:39 fragile to enter a supermarket with a reusable bag in, hey, is that gay, fellas? Now, see, you know, times have changed, man, because back when we were younger, Miles and Paige, you know, to being a real man was, I'm going to carry 30 bags of groceries into the house in one trip, you know, and now you can't even have bags no more i'll just carry everything loose look at you using bags keep moving these goal posts man shit my arms ain't that big no more
Starting point is 00:55:19 also for like someone bags pile up you know before i was using reusable bags you would have like a whole section of your house was all these loose fucking bags you came home with and you know what the fuck to do with them eventually i'm gonna need to put a wet bathing suit in this because right exactly i might someone someone might have muddy shoes that they can take their wet vans home in this bag but you might it's not always yourself and need to set your clothes on fire uh you need a bad example right so it's it's not uh it's not that caring about the earth makes you feminine but again that's just an interesting sort of dimension that uh people are like sort of looking at it's like this idea like that the very very rigid sad
Starting point is 00:56:12 thinking concept of masculinity that like thinking of the future and what is like good for the health of the earth makes you less of a man it's kind of similar to like how men are more likely generally to like self-medicate and not like seek help it's just like it feels like a another element of that of like there's nothing wrong like we right i'm fine i'm fine are you fine like why are we carrying bags to the grocery store i don't know what's going on they're like you don't want to carry bags i don't want to talk about carrying that i don't even i'm not carrying a purse into the grocery store like what yeah keep wearing that face diaper what all right maybe they should put something on the bags that they sell at the grocery store something masculine you know maybe flame something you know yeah oh right on there like reusable bags like an eagle with like a four-foot dick
Starting point is 00:57:05 or some shit just that's a great example yeah yeah a four-foot dick and it's coming yeah you want to feel masculine let me hold this bag with a bear dick on it with a big ass bird dick i mean dude people already want to put a ball sack on their truck, so why not? It's a natural extension. That shit's tight. Not because I wish my toe hitch was like a chodey dick on the back of my car. The fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:57:37 We don't hear the term chode enough anymore. No, no. Thanks for bringing it back. I mean, I don't know. I felt like that was a very West Coast thing. You know, West Coast Chodes. Okay. West Coast Chodes.
Starting point is 00:57:49 All right. Shout out to my West Coast Chodes. New TV show. West Coast Customs. Right. Exactly. Hey, and I'm X to the Z exhibit. And we're going to check out this sick new show.
Starting point is 00:57:59 We're hooking up her show. They got the PlayStation in the back. All right, player. Exhibit? Not actually from California. Not many people know that. We got the PlayStation in the back. All right, player. Exhibit? Not actually from California. We used to be a proper country back when MTV was pimping our rise and showing our
Starting point is 00:58:13 cribs. Do you ever drive by the West Coast Customs right there by the Empire Center? Oh, yeah. In Burbank. Yes. And just sigh? Okay, so for people who aren't from... I know a lot of people are like, man, some people, they talk about L.A. too much. So here's a little insight, folks. The West Coast Customs shop, I don't know if it was there during the filming of the show.
Starting point is 00:58:34 It may have been. But it's in Burbank, California, and it's right down the street from this big-ass shopping center called the Empire Center, where it's like the best buy and all that shit is in Burbank. Walmart, Target, everything. Exactly. shopping center called the empire center where it's like the best buy and all that shit is in burbank walmart target everything exactly and you drive by like whenever i drive by it i fucking i slow down for a second to like try and just see if i can see something happening in there and i'm like what the fuck am i doing all they do is just like give you like tuned up ford focuses out of there yeah i've never been i should go in and just say i've lived a mile away from it for 10 years and i've never been to it oh i pass it up all the time i should go to it one day see what they can do see what they can do with my vote in there what was that one dude's name
Starting point is 00:59:14 mike wasn't there a guy named big mike or something oh killer mike or no big mike yeah big mike mad remember what mad mike you die fat died fat michael big mike the mike mike died yeah mike died i mean a lot of these like reality shows that we grew up on a lot of people who were on them are now dead it's like yeah it's a pretty huge bummer it's very sad it's very sad yeah i was like watching robin big on pluto tv the pandemic. And I was like having such a great time. I was like, I forgot about this show. And then I remembered and I was like,
Starting point is 00:59:49 Oh yeah. The Chris, I think that's what I'm thinking about. Rob died. Rob from Robin. No, big. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I don't know, man. Rob, everybody on MTV. They all go on Pluto TV. Probably. He's still there. My mad Mike. Okay. Q's still there Mad Mike okay he's still there I think
Starting point is 01:00:10 he bailed on the show then he started on the Galpin Autosports blah blah blah Galpin if you need a Ford get it at Galpin you can get it at Galpin alright let's take a quick break and we'll be back to talk about something else after this. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for
Starting point is 01:02:01 advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote, what is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first,
Starting point is 01:02:43 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
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Starting point is 01:04:42 And we are back. The fucking VR world. and we are back the fucking vr world uh i just i'm bringing this up because uh cool wendy's is finally opening in the metaverse what so there's this like announcement that came out today that says that there's you know that look first of all we see all of these announcements all the time where companies are like putting out these press releases we're like we're so excited to begin to participate in the metaverse like this is just it's been it's just an exciting new place to to connect with the fans of our restaurant or whatever the fuck so they can get connected with an oculus headset so the latest announcement is from wendy's and they i think they're going to be one of the first fast food chains in the metaverse or some shit.
Starting point is 01:05:27 This is like one of their chief marketing officers said, which I don't even know what it means. Quote, for years, we've been meeting our fans in unexpected ways and places with our unique approach to social media, gaming and engagement. Truly a first of its kind. The Wendyverse bridges the best of today with tomorrow to show up for our fans across every world with a frosty and fries in hand do any of y'all know what that even means or what you can expect based on those words let me let me tell y'all a little something something oculus is tight bro i love an oculus i'm not keeping on the oculus and the metaverse i don't get it but whenever i'd be doing shit they'd be like this feels like some type of verse they're like i like it i was gonna say miles this is gonna be there's
Starting point is 01:06:13 gonna be like in 10 years you're hanging out in the wendy's and the metaverse and they play this clip of you being like what does that even mean i'm like a meme where they're like this dude doesn't fuck with the metaverse to me this just feels like a natural extension of the whole thing that's been happening for years of like these companies are like we're on twitter and we tweet like goofy stuff and it's just like you know like denny's twitter and like i feel like taco bell has a lot of like you know like they have like their own line at forever 21 and shit like it's like every brand has to be in all these spaces so it's like they just have to do a metaverse thing because it's like the next thing yeah 100 but i guess that this is where the disconnect comes right because the food i've played oh yeah the biggest one
Starting point is 01:07:02 let's suspend our disbelief like we're watching a rom-com for a second and not ask the most fucking pressing questions like how do you fucking eat but like i love i've every time i've used oculus i love it i think it's super dope so there's times i'm just in the fucking like that the loading main menu where you're just in that like big room and i'm like yo this shit is fucking tight i but aside from me being high and just looking around me like yo this shit is tight i don't really i'm not i'm not then going to the next thing like you know i'll be sick if i could go to the post office in here if i could go to fucking wendy's in here then that's where i'm saying where's that next jump because to your point there it's like many of the people say oh
Starting point is 01:07:43 what can you do with this it's only for people if you have an oculus headset first point, it's like many of the people say, oh, what can you do with this? It's only for people if you have an Oculus headset, first of all, it's only you can experience it. But if you do have it, you can experience the Wendyverse Town Square Central with the Wendy's restaurant
Starting point is 01:07:54 replicated in the virtual world. Players can go behind the counter and meet friends or the Wendy's Partnership Plaza where players can visit the Buck Biscuit Dome to shoot hoops with a virtual Baconator
Starting point is 01:08:05 and cut the net following a winning shot. The go behind the counter is a little concerning. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to go behind the counter. We shouldn't be encouraging Wendy's customers to go behind the counter. They're like, I do this in the metaverse. That's a world we shouldn't cross, man.
Starting point is 01:08:21 You should never cross the counter line. That is one thing that we all agree on. Never cross the counter line. It's an insurance issue. If something happens to you back there, you're not covered. You're not an employee. Make it more real in that sense
Starting point is 01:08:35 where you cross the line and these AI-generated employees start stomping you out because they don't know what the fuck you're doing back there. But I see more people fucking around in the metaverse or in the open worlds, whatever meta Facebook thing. And they're they're playing games and having fun.
Starting point is 01:08:54 But I'm not sure how this relates to connecting with fast food fans. And I'm and I'm not trying to say I'm completely confounded by the modern marketing of our corporations. I completely understand where it's going but like to the biggest point that you bring up pages like if i go to fucking wendy's it's to fucking eat so not to play vr basketball with some random 12 year old who wants to say the n-word out loud a bunch to me like that's true i could kind of see that happening in a wendy's yeah so I guess really the only thing missing is food. Wendy's is a wild place, man.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Wendy's is the first time I did stuff in the car. I was in Wendy's parking lot and nobody bothered us. The watchful eye of Wendy just looking over you. Wendy was like, let them be.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Let them teenagers be. Yeah. But also eye of Wendy was like, let them be. One tear goes down for the innocence lost. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But also, here's where I think it'll go, Miles. Here's where I think it'll go. You go up. You say, hey, what's up?
Starting point is 01:09:53 I would like to order a double bacon cheeseburger. Give me a couple nuggets and the frosty, right? And then they say, okay. And they put that order in. And it acts like a DoorD dash or postmates so you're ordering from wendy's nearby and they drive it to you and they'll be like yeah that'll be like 20 minutes and then you're sitting there you're talking you're having some fun and then your wendy's come to your door and then you eat your wendy's maybe that's what it is maybe the wendy's metaverse
Starting point is 01:10:20 is the new postmates i think what they have to figure out, though, is, like, then when you go to the door to, like, get your Postmates, do you need to take off your Oculus? Like, how do they integrate the eating and the, like, going within your house, you know? Right, right. Some way the goggles ought to come off. You know, we ain't asking all them questions, you know. I want to know. I hope they can figure it out. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:10:47 I want them to figure it out. It's just amazing. They're saying, like, you can actually translate, like, physical touch. And that's when we crossed the Rubicon. They do have that. Like, have you ever gone to... At the Westfield Century City, they have Dreamscape. It's like a VR experience.
Starting point is 01:11:04 The place that I'm... Whenever I walk by by i'm like what the fuck they doing in there you gotta go it's so fun but there's parts of it where you pick stuff up and like if you actually see i mean if you actually see what's going on which i always think the people who are monitoring the rooms must just be like holding in laughter because right you're literally just picking up like a like a plastic ball or something sure but in it but it feels like you're picking up like a dinosaur egg or whatever the thing right right right i mean it's incredible like it's i mean like i'm and i'm thinking bigger page i'm
Starting point is 01:11:37 like when do i put on like my body suit and then i hug somebody and the shit puts pressure on my body i'm like i'm being held. You know what I mean? All that to say, I miss my dad. Oh. But that's neither here nor there. Yeah, the metaverse won't be real until it gives us hugs from our dads and our moms. Right, exactly. And we can eat.
Starting point is 01:11:59 When I can share a Wendy's with my father in the metaverse. Yeah, when what you're actually like touching in physical space matches what you're seeing that will be yeah yeah and then i mean that's gonna be bad because then that's just the matrix and then we're all gonna be in pods because we don't need to fuck around with physical life i'm just gonna say that's that now we now we now we're crossing over into uh black mirror san junipero or whatever that uh episode was yeah episode was. That's where we're heading. Where everybody's just going to be like, you know what? Just go ahead and lay me down.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Put the little doubt in my head and let me live in my cloud. Let me go ahead and just live in the cloud. And I'm going to be out here being like, don't fuck with the metaverse. We knew with the Wendy's it was bad. We knew where it was fucking going. Jesus. All right. Well, Paige,
Starting point is 01:12:45 thank you so much for joining us today on the daily zeitgeist. Well, where can people find you, follow you, listen to you, hear you experience your humor? Uh, you can find me on Instagram at Paige Weldon,
Starting point is 01:12:57 just, just my name. And I guess, I guess Twitter, uh, I don't know. And you can also, I have an album,
Starting point is 01:13:04 uh, it's a few years old now, but it's still out there called Girlfriend at the Time. You can listen to that. You can also listen to old episodes of Mall Talk if you want. Yeah. That's it, I think. And is there a tweet that you like? A work of social media that you want to shout out?
Starting point is 01:13:19 Okay, so I do struggle with this for the fact that I feel like I'm not on Twitter that much. Can I just share my friend? I just want to talk about my friend Katie French, who is a comedian. She also has a YouTube channel called Laugh Cry DIY, where she does sort of like apartment friendly, like cheap makeovers of people's apartments. Okay. And they are so fucking impressive and i just i
Starting point is 01:13:48 literally like i know katie i talk to her all the time and then i will like find myself scrolling through her instagram looking at like i was mentioning it to someone the other day and they were like looking at it being like oh my god she's good and i'm like she is good and it's just like really cool like tips and like you know a lot of using like her most popular video is she did like did a makeover on a kitchen for our our friend rachel friedland and uh chelsea quinn and they like put contact paper on the the cabinets and like this cool stuff on the floor like and it's all like removable so if you move out like right right it's not damaged fuck you up with the fees yeah yeah and that's just that's what came to mind where i'm like that's what i like on social media and what's it called last
Starting point is 01:14:35 cry diy yeah okay check out her youtube you know where to go for the for the real good stuff yeah hell yeah i always appreciate good DIY. Jacquees, thank you so much again for co-hosting today. Where can people find you, follow you, listen to you, experience you, and what's a tweet that you like? Oh, well, you know what it is. You can find me in these streets as always. Paige, a pleasure having you on. Nice to officially meet you as well.
Starting point is 01:15:03 At Jacquees Nealil on everything let's see oh i i mentioned this yesterday i mentioned again if you're in town i want people i want i want as many people to come to this as they can uh mother's day may 8th comedian feud i am hosting uh la comedians only version of family feud at the elysian theater with the paul f tompkins team going against the lauren lapkus team with a very special stand-up set with naomi aparigan uh so i'm very excited about that so come check it out bring your families bring your mamas take them out to dinner give them some flowers and then bring them to comedian feud and watch family feud with uh funny ass people it's gonna be a good ass time i love this i love family feud this is great time it's gonna be a great ass time i'm looking forward to it uh so this tweet that I like serves double purpose because I
Starting point is 01:16:06 brought up this tweet I think yesterday and like the person who wrote it need to amend the tweet so as we know black people in Hollywood have all collectively decided hey man we gonna keep our mouth shut
Starting point is 01:16:22 we handling this in house with the Will Smith Chris Rock thing we ain't got shit to say y'all leave us leave us the fuck alone we got this we got this this ain't y'all business right but somebody didn't give zoe kravitz the memo and she said some shit and zoe kravitz has been getting dragged on twitter and on social media everybody and bringing out the receipts and so yesterday i said one of my favorite tweets or maybe the day before i can't remember one of my favorite tweets was from zach fox and he said nigga slapped me in front of zoe kravitz they gonna have to put me down like old yeller very funny very funny well now this zoe kravitz has, you know, fallen down.
Starting point is 01:17:05 He wrote a tweet right under that with an asterisk Zendaya. And I would like to also say that. So that's my tweet. It is an amendment to his tweet. And that's my favorite tweet. So I take what I passed. I take that favorite tweet back from a couple days ago and replace terms and conditions terms and conditions applied yeah we we are back we are back to our original light-skinned love uh zendaya i'm you know i'm problematic queen regularly scheduled programming um some tweets that i like first one is from james at caucasian
Starting point is 01:17:46 james tweeted fellas what you doing if she invites you over to swim but there's a bunch of leaves in her pool so stupid but caucasian james with that player's dilemma if there's so many leaves in her pool player okay i mean that's certainly taking me to a place i'm like i'm there i can picture the pool can you imagine i mean realistically right how many leaves is too many leaves i get some shit blows in there's fucking leaves at the body pool but like is it that you can't see the bottom that the color like it's affecting the quality of the water what's the grease yeah i would probably say if the pool got about 20 leaves and i'm gonna be like i don't know that if i'm having to push the leaves out of the way you know if i can avoid
Starting point is 01:18:38 them without it being an issue whatever but if i feel like i need to like grab that you know what is the like cleaning the little basket or whatever then i'm gonna say you know what we'll just do something else yeah and also you know when there's leaves in the pool you also got sticks in the pool now you got a little dirt particle there's a lot of shit that comes with the leaves you know look at all of us with our tender skin for me it's like if i in the shallow end if i'm kicking up if i'm kicking up leaves as i walk because i mean growing up in the valley people had pools not everybody took care of their shit so like there were levels to it it was when i'm like i can't jump in and then my feet are all leafed up then i'm having problems they're sticking to you yeah yo i wouldn't hook
Starting point is 01:19:27 up with a person who had too many leaves in their pool before i wouldn't hook up with somebody who denied climate no let me shut up i'm joking you know what can i share i like that this is like not a you can work with somebody i think on the climate change denial i just i'm sorry i just remembered a t I saw, which is like one of those TikToks that just says something. And it's like a girl being like, she's like, kind of like, oh my God. And it says, thinking about the time, my friend ripped up her boyfriend's birth certificate during an argument
Starting point is 01:19:58 and said, shut up. You don't even exist. exist and then like there's the elaboration in the comments of like he cheated on her and right she was going through drawers and found it and like wow you don't even exist i forgot about that that's kind of a tweet yeah no i like that That's that's just such a clap back to like, you know what? You're not even real, motherfucker. This is going to be a pain in the ass for you in the future. And those few times when you need a birth certificate for some reason. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Hope you got notary money. OK. Another tweet I like is from past guest Derek Lemos at Derek Lemos. D-E-R-R-I-C-k-l-e-m-o-s tweeted between Coco and Kanto everything everywhere all the time and turning red millennial filmmakers are slowly creating an entire genre of fantasy films where parents apologize and I was like holy shit uh that definitely got the attention of hundreds of thousands of people because that tweet blew up. And then finally, Daddy Magic at Kath Barbadoro tweeted, Madison Cawthorn. So there's this whole thing we talked about on the trending episode about Madison Cawthorn being like, the people in like DC are
Starting point is 01:21:15 doing drugs and having sex orgies. What's going on here? So this is in response to that Kath tweeting, Madison Cawthorn telling on people is really funny because it's the first public reckoning of the fact that there are now true believers in Congress. All the old guys were just doing kayfabe. And now they're like, oh, you actually think all the stuff we said on Fox News was real? LOL. And that hit differently for all my wrestling political fans out there. You can find me at Miles ofgray on Twitter and Instagram. As you know, Mad Boosties with Jack and I
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Starting point is 01:23:21 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on
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