The Daily Zeitgeist - Philly Celebrates/Riots, Doritos For Her 2.5.18

Episode Date: February 6, 2018

In episode 78, Jack & Miles are join by comedian Jamie Loftus to discuss Dorito's new chip idea for women, Uma Thurman's NY Times interview, Super Bowl ads, halftime show, Philly riots, Republican...s distancing themselves from the 'memo,' & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 Thank you for that one. We are thrilled to be joined by one of our favorites, one of your favorites, Jamie Loftus! Hi! Pew pew pew! Oh, there she is. Feels good, feels good, feels great.
Starting point is 00:02:42 That is your a.k.a., right? That is. Yeah, Jamie Loftus, a.k.a. Pew feels good, feels great. That is your AKA, right? Pew, pew, pew. Yeah, Jamie Loftus' AKA, pew, pew, pew. Beautiful. Pew Research Report. Yeah. Jamie, for our new listeners, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay, I had a rough week for my brain remembering what to call things.
Starting point is 00:03:02 That's an interesting way to describe it. Well, it's so hard when you don't know what word you're looking for. It's so hard to try to find what it is. So late last week, I had to Google the phrase President Face Mountain. To find Mount Rushmore. To remember what Mount Rushmore was. And then this weekend, I didn't post this because I was too ashamed. I forgot the word for pan.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So I Googled deep plate. And it's the first thing that comes up. Is it? When you're thinking of a pan, you mean like for like to bake something in like a cooking pan? Yeah. Oh, wow. You Google deep plate. I think it would be like metal cooking circle. I was going to say shallow pot.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Deep plate. Deep plate. Probably reveals something about who we are. Yeah, there's something. There's like a glass empty. I don't know who loses. And then I looked up Meatloaf JFK murder, which I do every once in a while because he was there. Meatloaf was at?
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeah, he was like 14 years old and he lived in Dallas. Whoa. 14 is old enough to take a shot. Yeah. Yeah. One of the Bills, either Bill Pullman or Paxton. Was there? Was there also, like on his dad's shoulders.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Whoa. And he was like 22. No, I'm just kidding. He was 22 and aiming. Yeah. No, he was like a four or five year old kid. Whoa. Damn. kid. Whoa. Damn.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah. So I guess we've solved the mystery, right? Yeah. We've solved the mystery. Definitely meatloaf and one of the bills. Yep. Or at least they asked him to. That's what I would do anything for love.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But I won't do that. I will not assassinate the president. I mean, it's never been a more appealing idea than now. We're not calling for it we're just saying we're just saying um if we had to pick one what is something you think is by the way president face mountain is what that should be called fuck mount rushmore president face mountain let's go i would actually i'm hoping if somebody has a name face mountain we can elect them president because i would love to have like and president face mountain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Now that evokes just a guy whose face is Rocky Craig. Yeah. With like snow on top. Jamie, what is something that is underrated? Something underrated, I think, is reading the comments. Everyone always says don't read the comments. But sometimes I dip my toe into the comments and I get this rush. I was awake three hours earlier than I was expecting to be because I just sat up in a cold sweat because I'd read comments the previous night.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I was like, whoa, I'm fully activated. And I walked for seven miles. So underrated. No, I knew where I was going. And I walked for seven miles. And then I just ended up somewhere. And I was in Pacoima. That's how we met.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah. That is how we met. That sounds healthy? Read the... No. Probably not. Well, what happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:57 What comments under what? Okay. So I do a show on Super Deluxe. Right. And never read the comments. On YouTube, never. No. But sometimes on Facebook especially they're bad.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And sometimes it will just like show up in my feed because I like subscribe to the channel from my Facebook. Right. So this one just showed up and then I fell deep into a hot or not debate about me. And it was – I mean some points were made some valid points some people were nice some people think i should see a dentist it's like there's a lot going on and and uh you know i i i normally wouldn't dip in but i did this time and you know what i don't regret it okay yeah wait so you interacted or you just you just read through oh i love interacting yeah yeah i'm just like thank you valid point uh if anyone wants to give me dental insurance, I'd be fucking tired.
Starting point is 00:06:47 If there's any dentists in the comments. Is this an ad for your dental practice? Yeah. If so, very hurtful. But like, I will show up. So yeah, reading the comments underrated. I would say never to read the comments just based on my own experience. It is a horrifying experience.
Starting point is 00:07:06 My most popular video on YouTube. So the more popular a piece of content or whatever gets, the more likely it is to reach an audience that is not your audience, basically. Oh, the audience that doesn't think you're hot? Right. Yeah, exactly. Right. Exactly. So I had a video very early on on the show. I used to do the spit take where it was a good premise. You know what? Just videos of celebrities while they were unmistakably high or drunk. And it was a lot of fun. But, you know, I wasn't my performance wasn't great.
Starting point is 00:07:43 It was like the fifth video I'd ever done. And the comments were so mean. It was like the, I think that one of the top comments was, I just want to punch you in the fucking throat, bro. And everyone was like, yep, yes. That was the top comment. It's a debasing experience being on the internet. More than being a frequent podcast guest? I, oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I, no, it's worse. It's definitely for sure worse. And then it's weird because you'll see comments about your friends sometimes and it's like, wow, now I know this mean thing someone thought about you. Do you know? I can't tell you. And I can't bring it up without looking just shady. No, right.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Can you believe what someone said about you? Right. I'm like, people say that you got Cheeto fingers. Like it's like they're Cheeto fingers. Yeah. you? Right. I'm like, people say that you got Cheeto fingers. Like, it's like they're... Cheeto fingers? Yeah. I can't... Like, that they're jaundiced and, like, discolored orange?
Starting point is 00:08:29 I cannot discuss it further. I cannot discuss it further. I mean, the yellow of your tongue. Just someone with yellow of your tongue. Like, have... Oh, like they're knobby, like a... I don't... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I don't know what I'm saying. Jamie's one friend. Remember they have Cheetos for fingers? Yeah. Just, like, actual Cheetos? I feel like I'm, like, calling them out now. My friend who has Cheetos for Chris Cheeto. They are delicious, though.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I have seen I have seen people like any creative people who are out there. I would recommend not reading the comments as much as possible. I've seen talented writers kind of lose their way, at least temporarily, because of comments, because that voice gets in their head, and then they open their next column arguing with a voice in their head that represents the comments. I've done that before.
Starting point is 00:09:17 For like a page, and it's just like, that's not... It's just a terrible way to live. You want to live from your inside and exude outwardly. You don't want external things to begin affecting you internally. And I think you begin to betray yourself because if you live by the comments and you get gassed up when people big you up, you're like, oh, yes, I'm feeling good. You also die just as bad from the bad comments. Yeah, you got your hot days and your not days. Just believe in yourself.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Well, I would, I guess, clarify reading the comments. I wouldn't do it on purpose, but if you come across them by accident when you're just innocently scrolling through your own damn feed. Right. Just trying to, I was literally looking for people who were sad that the Patriots lost to make myself feel good because I like when people from my home state are upset. And then I, instant karma came across the hot or not discussion. So when you see it, make the best of it. Make the best of it. You found one of us, by the way.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I am a Patriots fan, a self-loathing one. Really? Yeah, yeah. Wild. Audible yawn. Jamie, what is something that is overrated? Oh, well, this ties into stuff we'll talk about today, but separating art from the artist is so fucking overrated. We cannot do it in 2018.
Starting point is 00:10:31 It's not allowed. Is that even like overrated or just like that is expired or that is an extinct way of thinking? Maybe that should have been my myth. Yeah, it's garbage. It's bad. I had a good friend with a bad take on it this weekend. We kind of got into the weeds.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Who was the artist? What if it was Cheeto Fingers? The artist formerly known as Cheeto Fingers. The artist, we were talking about Tarantino. We'll get there. Alright, we're trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now.
Starting point is 00:11:08 That is what zeitgeist means, basically. Oh. And we like to open up by asking our guests, what's a myth? What's something that people think is true that is not? Sort of hearkening back to why I was on Facebook last night in the first place, I would bust the myth if anyone thinks that it is even remotely sad when people from Massachusetts are upset about something. I would like to bust that myth right now.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It is so funny. I read all of my uncle's responses to the Patriots losing last night. Was it like, did he feel it was an injustice or it was just... No, they were doing this like New England thing where they're all supposed to be so fucking alpha. And they went for, like, my uncle who – he's a con artist, so I don't care, which is another fun thing about being from New England. Lots of your relatives are going to be con artists. They're going to be stealing Ford cars. You're not going to know what to do.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So this is what he said. He took a somber tone. He said, man, my guys, I know everyone's sad tonight, but think of the guys. He's talking about the New England Patriots. The players. Okay. But think of the guys and their families. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Don't be reckless tonight, everyone. The guys wouldn't want that. Fuck. Don't be reckless tonight, everyone. The guys wouldn't want that. And of course, steals Ford cars on disability, not disabled. Wow. Icon.
Starting point is 00:12:33 An icon. Massachusetts icon. Don't be reckless tonight. Don't be reckless. The guys don't want that. The guys don't want you to steal a Ford car today. They wouldn't want that. Don't honor them like that. Don't fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:12:44 People in Philly are eating horse dung. Right. Hey, but that's how you celebrate. Anyway, that's a whole other world. We'll get to that. But I was thinking, like, I kept expecting when people were, like, showing the Philly celebrations to, like, someone to turn the camera and Gronk would just be there, like, celebrating. Just got swept up in it. It was too dumb to realize
Starting point is 00:13:05 like they're celebrating that his team just lost uh anyways we gotta get into the news you guys because there is some very very important news uh especially for you uh jamie uh yeah because uh doritos has made an announcement that they, that news directed at me directly. That they are going to be making non-crunchy Doritos for women, folks. For women. Yeah. Wait, Doritos for a gal like me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Finally, you can. I've never been able to touch the thing. I know. I remember the one time you bit an edge of a Dorito. You got a concussion from the crunch. It was so intense. It was too much. Yeah, the guy Indra Nooyi, who's the CEO of PepsiCo, who's the parent company of Frito-Lay.
Starting point is 00:13:53 He was on Freakonomics Radio and he was basically saying, yeah, they're looking into making special chips just for women. Now, my question is, if a Doritos is crunch crunch free, isn't that just a fucking tortilla? I wouldn't know. I've never been able to have one. Just listen to this. This is what he said when talking about the situation. He said, quote, as you watch a lot of the young guys eat the chips, they love their Doritos and they lick their fingers with great glee. And when they reach the bottom of the bag, they pour the little broken pieces into their mouth.
Starting point is 00:14:24 This is pornographic. Because they don't want to lose that taste of the flavor and the broken chips reach the bottom of the bag, they pour the little broken pieces into their mouth. This is pornographic. Because they don't want to lose that taste of the flavor and the broken chips in the bottom. Is he jerking off while he says this? This is actually a woman. Okay. Actually, I just realized that. Is she flicking her bean as this happens? She's like, I wish I could do this, but I'm just not genetically able to.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Now, this is – she goes on. And I'm sorry. At the beginning, I said it was a man. This is a woman. She says, women, I think, would love to do the same. But they don't. They don't like to crunch too loudly in public. And they don't lick their fingers generously.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And they don't like to pour the little broken pieces and the flavor into their mouth. Cheeto fingers. A woman. You know what's funny? My girlfriend eats hot Cheetos with chopsticks. Hot Cheetos with chopsticks. That's very... Oh, to like paste or something.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Because she didn't want to get Cheeto dust on her fingers. Oh, damn. Oh, my God. That's actually brilliant. I know. I was like, I kind of was like, what the fuck? Really? I thought she was doing a bit to offend me because she's like, is that how you eat Cheetos?
Starting point is 00:15:19 And I was like, no. But then I was like, then I thought about it. I was like, yeah, yeah. Like you, Miles. Yeah. Just was like, then I thought about it. I was like, yeah, yeah. Like you, Miles. Just like you. Chopsticks, Cheetos. But yeah, I mean, this, look, are crunchy chips that offensive? Well, I mean, as a woman, I do have to say that it is absolutely disgusting.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I know. See, I feel like the, I think that the Doritos should be reverse engineered to be less dusty because if you've ever dated someone who is, you know, if you're like me and you date primarily magicians and drummers, they've always got Dorito dust UTI and I have to just openly identify as having done that. Not in a long time. I did. I did just get a message on Facebook from one of the people who sent a rather scathing comment. He has just now just literally just now. OK.
Starting point is 00:16:20 12. Oh, 1 p.m. Stephen Swole Sauce Zaslow. He works at he works at a gym. Swole Sauce works at a p.m. Steven Swolesauce Zaslau. He works at a gym. No, Swolesauce works at a gym? Yeah, I mean, he's great at branding. He said, Jez wanted to be funny. Sorry about comment, sad face.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Oh, wow. Swolesauce, look at you. Wow, redemption for Swolesauce. Uh-oh, now it'd be like, hey, do you eat Cheetos? I'm going to answer like, hey, Venmo me $50. You should. Yeah, I want to get his gym money. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:49 People, by the way, I've seen that defense of meanness on the internet a lot. People think that being mean is just funny. They're like, sorry, it was a joke. It was like, that's not a joke when you're just mean. You're being a dick. That's why I do respond to it sometimes, because people are literally horrified that someone might actually see something horrible that they wrote, and they'll immediately backtrack. They're never going to double down and be like, no, I fucking hate your face.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Fuck you, Cheeto teeth. That's when you hear from people like my new boyfriend, Stephen Swolesauce Zaslau. I thought you were dating Scam Likely. Okay. Scam and I are, I mean. I see that pop up on your phone constantly. Yeah. I mean, he won't leave me.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Like, Scam needs to learn to, like, give me space. He's always calling me from different states. Now, is this Scamule or Scamron? Scamron Likely. Oh, okay. I've met Scamule. I do not care for him. Scamron has a soft side side but he's extremely sus and he's always just like you know he's always just it's he's a lot yeah i
Starting point is 00:17:52 get it he's a lot he always wants to meet me in various home depot parking lots he says my credit's bad he's very he's emotionally abusive oh no scammering You need to quit him. I just need Scamron to, like, get it together. Because I will say he is not a Dorito Dust boy. Shout out to all my Dorito Dust boys. Dorito Dust boys only. Shout out to all my Dorito Dust boys. Hang in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:16 So, yeah. This is good news. Chewy Doritos. So women can eat them. Not, you know, hovering above a fainting couch. Now women can give men revenge UTIs. There's going to be, okay, well, new short film. We'll look forward to it.
Starting point is 00:18:33 But we want to move on to a Benghazi update that we were teasing earlier. So Uma Thurman spoke out this weekend. And Jamie, you read the article. You can tell us what she talked about. She talked about two things. One was sort of, I mean, because she, back in November. Yeah. They asked her, right?
Starting point is 00:18:54 About. Yeah. They asked her about it. And she just basically said, I'm really upset. And just like made it clear she needed time to process stuff. Did an Instagram post where she was basically like, happy Thanksgiving to everyone, but Harvey Weinstein, and then said something about a bullet, which was great. And then so she just spoke to a New York Times writer in the past week or so and did speak
Starting point is 00:19:16 about being harassed and assaulted by Harvey Weinstein, which is unfortunately a story we've heard a lot of times. But she also spoke about Quentin Tarantino and how he was not sexually abusive towards her, but certainly very abusive towards her on the set of Kill Bill. Right. friendship started to splinter because of harvey weinstein and um quentin tarantino being extreme i mean extremely complicit in what he clearly knew harvey weinstein was doing uh had a sort of coerced uma into um getting into a very unsafe prop car in uh kill bill you can see the video online it's horrible she gets horrifying she gets gets into a pretty bad wreck and got pretty hurt, which I never – that was one of my favorite movies. And I remember I had a behind-the-scenes book about that movie and there's no mention of it. Of course.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It's totally – right. He coerced me to ride in a rickety car with a loose seat in the car I wasn't comfortable driving and made me do that shit. And he also choked her and they're – I mean I'm pretty sure that that's the last time that they worked together if I'm remembering correctly. I don't think she's been in a Tarantino movie since and certainly hasn't been in a Harvey Weinstein joint. So it was very upsetting stuff but sort of a conclusion to what she had been talking about late last year. Did she mention something about sort of feeling guilty about the, that she didn't really speak out? Like I, I thought I'd read something to that effect too,
Starting point is 00:20:48 that she kind of was kind of beating herself up about that. Yes. So I, yeah, I mean, then that's like an interesting, I mean, I can relate with that.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Like if you've ever been in a community where there is like a known predator, which there are in unfortunately almost every community, that when someone finally calls them out, there's that thing in the back of your head where you're like, I could have fucking done that. Yeah, because she told him, I think after, if you do this, you're going to ruin your career, you're going to ruin your reputation. Right. And you have to believe that's true, but he got away with it forever.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah. Ever. Yeah, it's wild because- Ever. Tarantino told her that? Tarantino was like, don't ruin your- No, no, no. She was saying that to Harvey Weinstein, I think. Yeah, it's wild because... Tarantino told her that? No, no, no. She was saying that to Harvey Weinstein, I think, right?
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah, after he assaulted her. And he's like, well, there's no... He didn't say that, but there's no evidence in history that that is actually true. Because he really... Yeah, because it's weird to think
Starting point is 00:21:39 in Kill Bill, where she's getting choked when Gogo Yubari has that little chain spike ball and gets it around her neck and is choking her, you're like, yo, she looks like she's getting choked when Gogo Yubari has that little chain spike ball and like gets it around her neck and choking her, you're like, yo, she looks like she's getting fucking strangled. And then to know that that was actually him
Starting point is 00:21:51 off camera yanking that chain or spitting in her face when Michael Madsen, Michael Madsen's character was doing that. Well, and this kind of goes back to the art artist thing where obviously creative license exists, but it's like, oh, you know a director who's famous for gratuitous violence often against women might actually behave that
Starting point is 00:22:11 way like not entirely shocking yeah i don't i don't know the whole i i felt i don't necessarily agree that uma thurman should feel guilty about anything, but I think she vocalized a very common thought. Yeah, yeah. No, absolutely. I'm sure something that like ultimately keeps people silent is, you know, they start immediately feeling guilty that they haven't said something already. And then it becomes a shame thing as opposed to a thing where you're outraged about being victimized. Right. to a thing where you're outraged about being victimized.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Right. And especially because, I mean, with Harvey Weinstein in particular, it's like, I'm sure that no matter who you are, it's more, it happened to more people than you ever would have imagined. Right. But she didn't know that, you know? Right. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Victims should never feel like it's their fault. Absolutely not. And it shouldn't be on victims to to have to rehabilitate their own communities. I feel super strong about that. Yeah, absolutely. But I do appreciate that she vocalized that because I'm sure that that connected with a lot of people. Yeah. And the Tarantino thing is such a bummer.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And so, yeah, he's disappointing. He's like Mr. revenge fantasy too right like yeah that's like a big part of all of his films i knew that the the hands choking bridget von hammers mark in uh uh inglorious bastards were his that he was like you know the actors couldn't quite get it right so he choked her and like you could that's another scene where like you see the shot you're like holy shit and her eyes are like watering and popping out of her head um i mean so many male like i was uh re i re-watched like some behind the scenes footage from this the shining uh not too long ago and it's like the way stanley kubrick would talk to to shelly devall is it's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And he doesn't treat anybody else like that. And it's under the guise of, well, I abuse you to get this result or this performance. And it's just – Go do your psychological experiments somewhere else. Yeah. That's how I get the reaction. Right. Yeah. The other perspective would be that they built their career so that they could mistreat women
Starting point is 00:24:27 like at work publicly. And get trophies for it. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, with Tarantino, now we have two separate examples where he on camera choked a woman like, and he's the one writing and directing it. It's like, all right. right well you know he's just
Starting point is 00:24:47 like his feet thing he gets his feet shots in chokes a few actors out like he's just acting out his his weird kinks like this or just his abusive mentality yeah on a slightly positive note uh trump victim rachel crooks is running for ohio legislator. Oh, that's awesome. And, yeah, in a rural district currently held by a Republican that voted for Trump. But, you know, it also voted for Obama in 08 and 2012. So we shall see. All right, Rachel. Hopefully we get an actual real world revenge story there. All right.
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Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah So Hey you had a good party You had a good party I did We had a good party Over at my house It was a lot of fun
Starting point is 00:29:37 The Zeitgeist Whatever Jamie We were recording I swear Go to your Bechdel cast We did We did I was. We did.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I was recording. No, you were missed, but it was a lot of fun and another good game. I feel like there's been a pretty great run of Super Bowls for the past, I don't know, handful of years. There are Super Bowls that feature the Patriotsots have been really good games the past three times, but they lost this time as I knew they would. Nick Foles was great and won't be the starting quarterback for the Eagles next year.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And there are rumors that this would be the last year of the Patriots dynasty. So think of the boys, guys, think of the boys, guys. Think of the boys. Think of the fucking guys. Don't be reckless tonight, guys. They don't want that.
Starting point is 00:30:30 The guys wouldn't want that. But yeah, the rumor is that Belichick might leave because Brady made them trade away Jimmy Garoppolo, not Janine Garoppolo, as I just wanted to say. Oh, that got a bigger laugh than it deserved. I really liked it. Someone photoshopped that. Yeah, but also they could make Tom happy.
Starting point is 00:30:54 So we'll see about that. Ratings were down. I know people who skipped it because they didn't want to watch a sport that is, you know, complicit in giving people CTE. And then I know of a bunch of people who skipped it because they feel like, you know, NFL players were disrespecting the troops. And then you have people who don't watch it because they feel like the NFL is disrespecting those people's right to protest. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Exactly. That sounds like a little conflicting because like, I just don't generally care about the nfl and like this year kind of made solidified why i don't really watch right so i don't know it's like it was hard to kick the tradition of doing something on super bowl sunday i think that's what i found myself in that place yeah maybe we need to create a new tradition while on super bowl sunday everybody gets together and just watches you know the simpsons oh that sounds really you know i mean Simpsons or something. Oh, that sounds really nice. You know what I mean? Yeah, that would be fun.
Starting point is 00:31:45 And you can still eat and drink or whatever, but just don't watch the fucking Super Bowl. Just don't watch the Super Bowl. Yeah. I had a great time. My co-host, Caitlin, and I went to a cantina last night. Totally empty. We got like half-priced margaritas because no one was there. And they were just like, oh, did you watch the game?
Starting point is 00:32:00 We're like, nope. They're like, are you 18? And we're like, what? Yes. And then we got half-priced margaritas. Because you were 18? No. Well, Caitlin're like, Nope. They're like, are you 18? And we're like, yes. And then we got half price for it. Cause you were 18. No. Well,
Starting point is 00:32:09 Caitlin was like, I'm 31. I was like, I'm 18. All right. Half price for you. Not the old lady. Um, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:17 I mean, there was a hit during the game. Um, cooks, uh, a Patriots receiver caught a ball and then did like this weird like cartoon character like circle yeah and then ran and just got blindsided yeah just completely knocked out and uh that was a point where everybody I think laughed at first because it looked silly and then we're like oh
Starting point is 00:32:40 wow he could be dead like that's legitimate like, he did the same sort of hand thing that Uma Thurman does, actually, in that car crash video. Sort of like a fencing response. Yeah, where your hand just like kind of goes up because you're so knocked out. You just kind of go back to fetal position. Brutal. Yeah. So that was the game. Congratulations to the city of Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:33:06 We'll get it. Guys, quick update. I did just send Steven Swalsaw's Zaslow a request for $50 on the cash app, and we'll see what he says. We'll see how swole that bank account is. I put the caption as making me sad. So let's see if he pays me $50 for making me sad. Swole sauce is just like a word for steroids, right? We are all swole sauce.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I'm just saying if like – I guess when people add sauce to them, like, yo, I'm swag. I'm swole sauce or something. I don't know if that's what he means or he just – he mixes like steroids with his ragu and eats pasta like that all i know is it's time to make steven swole sauce zaza's life hell until he gives me 50 that's that i feel sure of i'm i'm on i'm in like a uh kill bill mood yeah well let's wait we'll see by the end by the end i have a feeling we'll have some kind of outcome yeah for sure uh justinberlake was the halftime show a lot of fun in the room while watching it
Starting point is 00:34:07 Lacey Mosley crowd favorite she's having a great time yeah was having a great time Edgar Mompuss here yeah some great videos of them dancing
Starting point is 00:34:17 on Instagram I saw them you should check out it was very fun in the room because I feel like everyone was like just you know
Starting point is 00:34:24 having a good time and like there was music Teresa had a good insta story of one half of the room not loving it and the other half the room mainly edgar loving it um but yeah it was i don't know that apparently there were sound issues uh which i couldn't tell in i watched because afterwards i was like i don't know if I actually really watched it. I was just kind of like having fun at the time. And like, there just happened to be Justin Timberlake sound on. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And then like, yeah, when you watched it back, like the sound was bad and it was actually really underwhelming. Like when you really think about when you compare to like the halftime show, like Beyonce or like even Katy Perry, we've talked about that one or Lady Gaga. This was like really. It was a bummer one. Or Lady Gaga. This was really...
Starting point is 00:35:05 It was a bummer. It was a bummer. And I've liked Justin Timberlake. I have nothing against him. I mean, I do have things against him. But I liked what Future Sex Love sounds forever. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Yeah. Didn't we all? Are we done with him? I don't know if we're done with him he'll never be done with him people will never be done with him but yeah i mean look he still did janet dirty i was still pissed that janet did not pop out and bring balance to the universe and pull his penis out right but you know there's still time for that and he still hasn't you know addressed that whole thing right but aside from that the prince cover the duet he did was also weird too because like,
Starting point is 00:35:46 it's I Would Die For You. Like, you want to have a song with the title Die in it when you're talking about Prince? Also someone who like, historically did not like him. Like,
Starting point is 00:35:53 why? Right. Yeah, so I didn't realize they had an actual beef like when Prince was alive that, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:01 Prince at an after show performance, like not an official concert, but like just after the Emmys performance or something or the Grammys performance was like, by the way, for people saying they're bringing Sexy back, Sexy never left. And Justin Timberlake
Starting point is 00:36:17 was like, fuck that! Nobody says Sexy never left about me. And then like started He's getting a little swole sauce about it yeah got real swole sauce about it uh and like had a lyric in uh the song give it to me where he was like now it's sexy never left then why is everybody on my shit don't hate on me just because you didn't come up with it um well that was about prince about prince and about Prince. I didn't realize that. And then he made fun of Prince being short at the 2007 Golden Globes.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Prince won for the Song of the Heart from Happy Feet. And he wasn't at the ceremony. So Timberlake, who was just presenting the award, was like, I guess I'll accept it on his behalf. But like ducked down to like a tiny stance at the microphone to be like get it because prince is short yo jt don't fuck around bro you you will not win that you will not a dead prince will beat you yeah every time every single time also on a live print yeah exactly but even now posthumously you can't win against this man right because the funny thing is you know he was saying like like there might be a hologram and shit.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And everyone was like, do not do that. Oh. And then they just did like a whack ass big sheet or whatever. But it's funny because even like Prince has been on record even when he was alive saying like holographic depictions of dead people is, quote, demonic. Right. So he's like, I want nothing to do with that. Yeah. And so I guess the sheet is cool
Starting point is 00:37:46 but it was again i mean the sheet the sheet was a reference back to his performance prince's halftime show do you remember that show where like his silhouette of him just like shredding the guitar was uh that that was actually one of the great halftime shows yeah there was a reference to that in the first concert i ever saw obviously i, I didn't know at the time, but I saw it was Prince. I saw Cisco open for the Backstreet Boys. There you go. On September 10th, 2001. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:13 True story. Boston, Massachusetts. And Cisco did the sheet thing and like paid, you know, homage to Prince for a bunch of, you know, nine year old girls. Right. And we received. Yeah. Yeah. While he's talking about thongs. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:26 And he's saying about thongs to the children. And we loved it. My mom was like, let's get this guy's autograph. Which we did. You did? Yeah, I got this guy's autograph. There's nothing more pre-9-11 than a Cisco Backstreet Boys concert. It's truly the, down to the wire on that.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I would, there's no amount of money I would pay to just be in the world in that moment. Speaking to the white trashiness of it all to my mom and I we made signs for the Backstreet Boys and this is when one of the Backstreet Boys had just gotten out of rehab and so we made a sign that was just like three days sober
Starting point is 00:39:00 AJ and like held it up Nice AJ. I hope he's still sober is he still alive we don't know no i think he is did howie have issues too no how he was the sensitive one oh he was okay just making sure but maybe maybe he was troubled um i always get him and how we mixed up yeah it is the bad boy okay how he's alive how he is uh super producer anna hosnia has informed us that how we life status update how we alive aj aj alive uh sober we don't know tbd i'll dm him there uh no oh wait okay wait i've got an update from swole sauce what you do i do he's actively engaging
Starting point is 00:39:44 this he's like negotiating i'll give you 28 god he is literally trying to negotiate with me i'll pay you 20 because it was a joke how did are you fucking kidding i don't negotiate with terrorists i how did they how did they make you sad i said you're a seven that's up there you, you know. Wow. No, he didn't. Screenshots. I'm going to start. I'm going to up my price now. I'm going to say $75.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Hit him with a $5,000 request. Well, I mean, let's be reasonable because I do want his money. All right. Do you guys have any? Women historically don't know how to negotiate. Any tips? Yeah, we'll handle this. Just don't know how to negotiate. Any tips? Yeah. We'll handle this. Just don't – yeah, hand the phone over, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:40:27 You got to understand about negotiating. I'm going to video chat him and be like, excuse me. Are you at the gym? You're talking with men right now. Am I able to do that? What? Video chat him. Oh, like live?
Starting point is 00:40:39 Yeah. I don't know. Maybe he's at the gym. Are you kidding me? See, you can Skype him. My producer messaged him as well, and he said that he and his girlfriend broke up a week ago. I don't know. But the good news is he thinks I'm a 7 out of 10. Ask him what he rates his ex-girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Oh, shit. That's your next response. And then you can start some real shit. I'm going to say I'm going to circle back to this negotiation, but first I have a question. Yes, exactly. Okay, okay. All right, so why you do that? Okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:41:08 There were some good ads. Some good ads. During the Super Bowl, the NFL touchdown celebration, dirty dancing thing with Eli Manning and O.D.J. was pretty good. And there was that Doritos Mountain Dew one. It was fine. I just saw Mountain Dew was involved and my ears perked up. I mean, isn't there anything funnier than actors rapping?
Starting point is 00:41:31 I know. Can you believe it? Wow. It was one of the hardest verses to rap. Definitely was. And he handled it. Peter Gingrich is a performer. Although they can do that with computers now.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Just like make it look like your mouth is. Or what you do is you just record the shit at half speed. Right. And then you speed it up in post. So it looks like you're doing it in time. Yeah. And the Amazon Alexa ad with Cardi B. That was really funny.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah. That was fun. I get so mad when I enjoy ads. The one ad I actually stopped mid-bite of food to watch was when the Han Solo teaser came up. Because up until this point, we didn't know if it fucking existed. Like suspiciously few trailers or teasers. And it was, I mean, I think everyone had an audible gasp when they saw Donald Glover as young Lando Calrissian. So I was like, there we go.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And then I guess the trailer dropped today. I watched that the first thing when I woke up this morning. We'll see where this goes. I mean, I'm glad that it was vague enough that I can't say definitively I'm not excited or excited. But it's Han Solo. It's young Lando. I'm here for it.
Starting point is 00:42:41 See, I'm personally very anti-Han Solo. Oh, you're anti-Han Solo. Harrison Ford doesn't do it for it. I see. I'm personally very anti. Oh, you're anti Han Solo. Harrison Ford doesn't do it for me. Don't like him. All of his character. The key. There's a really great video essay by this guy called the pop culture detective, uh,
Starting point is 00:42:55 where it just goes, basically scales Harrison Ford's career and, uh, breaks down how every single Harrison Ford character is extremely predatory and like fucked up. Han Solo, Indiana Jones, a lot of surprise kisses, lots of grabbing, lots of alpha. Up against the wall and being like, you want a bad boy. You love me.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah. You love me. He's deeply insecure. You just have to physically convince her that you love her. I'm hoping she loves you. Maybe the beginning of this shows that he was actually a sensitive social justice warrior and then the dark side fucked him up or something. Man, it's not the time for that message. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:43:30 Stephen Swolsos is literally trying to like get it right now and I'm furious. He's literally trying to get it with a seven, which is like, okay. I said, well, I said, I'm going to circle back to this negotiation because $20 simply won't cut it. But first I have a question. What was your X on a scale of 10? He says, hmm, Dame. That's a good question. Dame?
Starting point is 00:43:53 Like D-A-Y-M? D-A-M-E. Oh. Like Judi Dench. Like he can't spell. Like a lady. Might be an idiot. Or notes for dumb.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Hmm, Dame. That's a good question. Hmm, Dame. Before I answer. That's a good question. Dame. Maybe he's trying to be respectful.. Hmm, Dame, that's a good question. Hmm, Dame, that's a good question. Dame. Maybe he's trying to be respectful. Good one, Dame.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And he says, before I answer, where are you going with this? I'm going to send him a picture of someone else's penis. There was a Dodge ad. So they chose to take audio from a Martin Luther King Jr. speech and lay it over just your very standard inspirational footage of Americans doing dirty work. And trucks just slogging through the mud. And the speech was essentially about, like, if you want to be great, you have to work hard and be a servant, which is a great message, actually. Serve other people. And as if Dr. Martin Luther King, hearing him speak wasn't dramatic enough, you add cinematic scoring. You're even like, right.
Starting point is 00:44:56 It's wild. Laying it on thick. Yeah, as thick as possible. I mean, it's so common for people to co-opt any message. I mean, you could even go for people to co-opt any message like that. Like, I mean, you could even go back to a couple of years ago. I was really annoyed when there I think it was like an always commercial where they're like fight like a girl where it's like the most convenient marketable version of feminism of like, what if a girl but punching? And it's just like it's so.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And at the time, people were like revolutionary. We love this. What if a girl but punching? And it's just like it's so and at the time people were like revolutionary we love this what if a girl but punching and it's just oh god this seems like uh in that vein of just very much in that vein yeah uh especially dodge uh miles as you pointed out dodge is probably uh because uh they were the car company that uh this vehicle was driven into a crowd of people in Charlottesville. Maybe they should put that underneath that shit. Yeah, yeah. But you can rehab your image. So the internet responded to this by finding a speech from – was it the same speech?
Starting point is 00:45:54 That's the same speech. They just cherry-picked it to be this thing. to sound like it was a speech about America's greatness that could go over a clip of a bunch of, you know, white people doing farm work in muddy conditions. And so somebody found audio from that same speech that addresses that comes with a very different message. So first we're going to hear some audio from the ad as Dodge presented it, and then we're going to hear the audio from the actual speech unedited. So this is the commercial. If you want to be important, wonderful. If you want to be recognized, wonderful. If you want to be great, wonderful. But recognize that he who is greatest among you
Starting point is 00:46:45 shall be your servant. That's a new definition of greatness. We are so often attacked by advertisers. You know, those gentlemen of massive verbal persuasion. And they have a way of saying things
Starting point is 00:47:01 to you that kind of gets you in the bind. In order to make your neighbors envious, you must drive this type of car. In order to be lovely to love, you must wear this kind of lipstick or this kind of perfume. And you know, before you know it, you're just buying that stuff. I've got to drive this car because it's something about this car that makes my car a little better than my neighbor's car i am sad to say that the nation in which we live is the supreme culprit and i'm going to continue to say it to america wow that is nothing like it's just him being like fuck capitalism and consumer culture.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah. His estate had to approve the use of that. Right. But it's interesting because it was Bernice King and I think the King Center, they were not actually involved with okaying that. It was actually his son who actually gave the okay to that. So there's even some conflict within the MLk camp over how that was all done uh because his son like controls like how his likeness is used yeah um but that's this is part of a larger problem of like a uh really safe uh anesthetized version of dr martin luther king uh that comes down to us from like history and uh you know our
Starting point is 00:48:27 textbooks and uh quotes from you know republican politicians on martin luther king day and uh the the actual reality of things yeah that's and that's it's that's why it feels like such a shitty move to do. Right. He – all addressing of economic inequality has been just scrubbed from his message. And in fact, once he started talking about that, he mysteriously was assassinated. So not mysteriously. I mean we know who did it, but. So that was kind of the most remarkable. That's that bummer section about commercials. Yeah. We have a bunch of celebrating from the city of Philadelphia to cover. But first, we're going to take a quick break.
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Starting point is 00:51:47 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest.
Starting point is 00:52:18 This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Philadelphia, you guys, what a town. They have been rioting, but it's being called in the media celebrating because white people, I guess. Mostly white people. Yeah, mostly white people. Mostly white people.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Um, but we've got some more highlights from the Philadelphia police department scanner. Um, so in the aftermath of that win, yeah. Yeah. Predictably.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Uh, I like that. This one, this is one of the first highlights that we have is a cop saying it's endless chief, endless's endless, chief. Endless. Like a fucking World War I infantry. Like he's dragging around a trench foot.
Starting point is 00:53:54 The enemy hordes. They're endless, chief. It's endless. The next quote we've got is, I got people coming up the ramps on 676 eastbound. I don't have a clue how they're getting up should i go up to get those people off 676 i don't have a i don't know where they're coming from just walking onto the freeway uh i got four stories above the wawa we got people out on the ledge can't tell how they came up again again they're just like they can't tell where people are coming from uh this one by
Starting point is 00:54:29 this point this next one this is like about a half hour into the riot uh we have a cop who just sounds like disappointed he says they're on top of the trash trucks there is to be no one on top of trash trucks guys it's just like and i think one of them was like spray painted eagles. Like one of the white trash trucks. They're just wilding out on top of the trash truck. We have multiple people on Broad Street swinging on light poles. A man jumped off the light pole and landed on his head. All direct quotes.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And that's despite them putting all that hydraulic grease on the light poles. And I'm telling you where there's a will, there's a way. And if you've got to celebrate, you're going to find a way to do that. It's true. Have you guys ever been living in a city when Team won? Oh, yeah. The Lakers. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Yeah. I lived in Boston for five years, and I went to a lot of stuff, and you've got to go underground. Really? It's like the purge. I literally would go under. I would never go outside. You like board your windows up. You're like, yeah, they might win tonight.
Starting point is 00:55:30 It's too. When the Red Sox won a couple of years ago, I literally went underground. Like in Boston? I was living in Boston and I worked in a radio station that was like in a basement. I was like, we got to go down there. Nowhere is safe. Yeah, this probably isn't that much different than – I guess the Patriots fans are kind of over it.
Starting point is 00:55:53 That's why it was sort of a – it sounded like a home game. Well, this is another thing too. Even when the Red Sox won, it was like 2004. Was that when they finally broke the streak? socks when it was like 2004 was that when they finally broke the yeah yeah that streak it's like very you know people got a lot of a lot of shit to get out because like it finally happened but it's weird because even as we like laugh about this like part of me just feels shitty because like when you look at a lot of the coverage it's still calling it celebrating when there's like massive destruction of property happening and you know like like do you just take like any kind of uh protest for like
Starting point is 00:56:26 a black lives matter thing you have full-on riot police and like they're like these thugs or whatever and then even with this thing you could see the cops are like on bicycle like they're on their bikes just kind of being like like high-fiving the protesters and shit like that right so i know i guess it contextually we uh when it's sports it feels like less menacing but if it's peaceful protesting and or you know a couple people get out of hand, it's full-scale thuggery. But at least there were people doing God's work yesterday. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I wonder what was happening in Boston. I'm sure that people were also climbing things and eating poo. But that's just a day. UMass Amherst, there was an actual giant brawl where people got arrested. UMass Amherst is a disgraceful place. It's a disgraceful place. It's where dignity
Starting point is 00:57:13 goes to die. Yeah, I think the number one takeaway from the riot slash celebration was the guy who ate poo, as you just mentioned. He was like, ah, dare me to eat poo? And everyone was like, I guess. Sure.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Better poo than a Tide Pod. Nobody wants me to do it, but I'm going to do it. You guys are crazy. There's like a massive pile of horse shit, and people are cheering, and he just gets down on all fours and I guess just takes a bite of shit. Right. For the team! It's what the boys want! cheering and he just gets down on all fours and i guess just takes a bite of shit right uh i don't
Starting point is 00:57:46 tame it's what the boys want everyone was like we i guess yeah hey y'all y'all dare me to eat this shit uh no don't do it oh here we go what eagles um this is weird like what what yeah what's that that's like tarantino with the choking this guy clearly went in wanting to eat a piece of horse yeah he's just always wondered what it would taste he probably just goes to cities that have won sports things and he's like whoa what's up houston you guys just won the world series man y'all damn we'd eat this horse shit crazy he like mails a horse shit to himself frozen frozen, heats it up, brings it out. And then he's like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:58:25 It's like, must be the best place to have a police horse? Are there police horses in this city? No, it's too cold for police horses. Do you mind if I stick my face into this shit? Anyone? Just eat it? Anyone? I mean, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Like, what's the deal like when you eat shit to celebrate? Right. Yeah. I mean, how do you, I don't know. Maybe you have just like a nice meal alone when you suffer a failure. You take yourself out and have a good night. But when you're, yeah, your, your, your city's team wins. Finally debase yourself.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Stay humble. Stay humble, fam. I think it's a testament to the wonders of alcohol and how fun alcohol can be in the right circumstances. But also, yeah, that guy can't be feeling great today. No. I was wondering, like, if it had been anything, like, just, like, maybe 10% less gross, he would probably be, like, horse poo guy on the Today Show and, like, stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:18 That's sad, yeah. Too much. He will not get any real mainstream love for being the guy who ate the horse shit after the Eagles won. He will be someone that people will remember in a bar probably later. You know, I was a guy that ate the horse shit after the Eagles won the Super Bowl. There will be so many people from Philly claiming that. Right. Or to know that.
Starting point is 00:59:36 It's like, that was my cousin. Right. Yeah. But, yeah, as you were pointing out, Miles, like there. But yeah, as you were pointing out, Miles, like there. So we also have a couple police scanner highlights that if this had been like any other demonstration would have been a totally different story. It would be like the nation is in crisis. Do you have medics over here coming to 17th and Lombard? We have a female here who was assaulted. 17th and Lombard. We have a female here who was assaulted. We have a light pole down on the east side of Macy's Corner.
Starting point is 01:00:07 We have live wires. I've got somebody jumping on top of fire trucks now. Yeah. We have a large crowd throwing bottles and chanting Meek Mill. I like how they had to call that out. Yeah, I mean, look, free that man. It's a secret. I mean, like, you think there was even, like, a footage of them, footage of them, I think in like a convenience store, like just looting and shit.
Starting point is 01:00:27 They like busted open a T-Mobile store. And yeah, I guess in the context of like sports, it's just we, you know, they just want to, they want to call it celebrating. Yeah. I mean, there was that truly remarkable footage of the guy doing like backflips on the, uh, Ritz Carlton awning. Like apparently those are buoyant or those like are bouncy because he was just like doing it was weird there was like some
Starting point is 01:00:51 spring in it it was like wait why is like he he got so drunk he became like a cartoon character yeah and then he like did a trust fall off off of one of them uh off of an awning and apparently survived i don't know we haven't heard of a body count coming out. But then a bunch of people got on that shit and then it collapsed. It all collapsed, yeah. And that looked a little scary. And it was scary as shit, man. That is like one of those videos that would be on the local news like, and five died as a thing collapsed.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Yeah, luckily it was like a slow collapse. So it wasn't like a violent, like it just came out from under them sort of collapse. But anyway. This is probably irresponsible to mention, but we were remarking at Cracked one time that people often survive long falls when they're really drunk. Oh, yeah, like people in car wrecks, too. Yeah, for some reason being drunk makes you better at at surviving maybe because you don't tense up. So maybe that's what saved the city of Philadelphia is they were all so drunk when they were sustaining these injuries that it just – Yeah, like wasn't one of them said the guy is like, well, we need an ambulance.
Starting point is 01:01:55 A guy just fell on his head from a pole. Yeah, fell off a light pole and landed directly on his head. How do you – genuine question. How do you prevent stuff? like how do you take preventative measures i mean i think that was impossible yeah that was happening the thing is like yeah it's just like gonna i guess like if you can't grease the light pole like i guess put down like foam padding all over the street right make it easier to fall on treat the city like a bunch of babies on all night baby turn the power off so there's no live wires for people to electrify themselves with.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Right, right. I mean – Yeah, that's a good idea. Just shut down the power to the whole city. Yeah. I mean it would just become – That could be bad. That would become the purge where it's like there's no power and you have a lot of rockers, drunk people.
Starting point is 01:02:41 And then, I mean, quick politics update that we can just only mention what happened. But, you know, we talked about the memo on Friday and a bunch of Republican representatives went on the Sunday shows to basically. So the president tweeted over the weekend first, I should say, saying that the memo proves the Mueller investigation is like baseless and, you know, totally. I think he referred to himself with quotations right this shows that trump quote unquote is innocent or something like that or exonerates me or whatever the fuck he's trying to say irresponsible use of 280 yeah but you know even the people that were on the sunday shows who were republican members of the house intel committee who drafted the memo no one was pushing the well now we got to fire rod rosenstein
Starting point is 01:03:23 thing they were like this has nothing to do with Robert Mueller's investigation. And this doesn't, like, dossier or not, the Russians still meddled in our elections. So that was interesting to see from this group of people who put out this bullshit memo. Because clearly I think they want to distance themselves from Devin Nunes to a certain extent. Because he looks like a total asshole right now. Yeah. Right. And it's just a question of whether they are, you know, going to let this memo just be a thing that happened and move on.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Or if it's one of those things as as it has trended up to this point where Republicans at first say the right same thing and then like sort of get gravitationally sucked into the president's sort of orbit yeah universe well yeah they're voting today to see whether or not they will they can they want to release the democratic version or as we call it reality uh so we'll see what happens there right uh what else oh uh chris coons and john mccain they they just introduced a bipartisan bill uh for uh you know for immigration because immigration because remember that's still something we have to take care of because there could be another fucking shutdown because we were too busy talking about all this other shit. 2013 or earlier, uh, and doesn't actually touch any of the other shit like legal,
Starting point is 01:04:46 uh, like family based legal migration or the diversity lottery. So it's like definitely not the one Trump wants. And as he said, he's like, there has to be something for the wall. They don't really have anything in there for the wall, but it,
Starting point is 01:04:59 there is some kind of bipartisan movement, but we'll see, you know, we won't, we won't really know until it gets closer. Right. We were all too busy out there eating horse shit to notice that we have all been there.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I suppose that if some shit really goes bad, and this really ends up being a turning point in the country, we were too busy eating horse shit to realize that our freedoms were being severely curtailed. Can I just say, if women were allowed to eat Doritos, we wouldn't be doing horseshit at the time.
Starting point is 01:05:28 But we was round. Because horseshit is not crunchy. Yeah. Jamie. Yes. As always, it's been a pleasure. Where can people find you on the internet? You can find me on Twitter.com at Hamburger Phone.
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Starting point is 01:05:55 You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. And if you hurry, you might be able to see some of that Super Bowl footage on my stories. You can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter.
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Starting point is 01:06:34 Miles, do you have a song you're going to be playing us out on? Yeah, I want to play, this is a song by Tall Black Guy. That's an artist called Love to the World. The artist is called? Tall Black Guy. Uh-huh artist called Love to the World. The artist is called Tall Black Guy. Uh-huh. The description and his artist name. And yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:49 it's Love to the World because right now, you know, let's just send some love to the world. Mm-hmm. And, you know, to the Dodge ad people,
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