The Daily Zeitgeist - PILK?!?!? The Stupidity Of Neolib Trump Takes 12.05.22

Episode Date: December 5, 2022

In episode 1384, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Gabe Mollica, to discuss… Zero COVID and Labor Exploitation Has Given Way to the White Paper Protests, New George Saunders Book And Mainstream... Media’s Myth About Trump, Lindsay Lohan’s Pepsi-Milk Is Here To Save Christmas and more! Zero COVID and Labor Exploitation Has Given Way to the White Paper Protests China’s Blank-Paper Protests Are Only a Beginning New George Saunders Book And Mainstream Media’s Myth About Trump Lindsay Lohan’s Pepsi-Milk Is Here To Save Christmas Lindsay Lohan Told Us To Drink Pepsi And Milk, So We Drank Pepsi And Milk Lindsay Lohan is trying to make Pepsi and milk happen … in her ‘Mean Girls’ Santa outfit I Drank Pepsi Milk And I Hate You All This Is the 'Dirty Soda' That Mormons Are Gulping Down In Utah Feud Over ‘Dirty’ Sodas, Flavored Darts Are Fired Disgusting Experiment Shows What Happens If You Make Milk Coke The Wrong Way LISTEN: Every Day by 1-O.A.K.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:06 But I think also Japan is playing in the World Cup. Somehow playing well, yeah. Top of the group. I don't know how the fuck that happened, but good on them. Did you watch that one? No, I was on a panel during the second half. So the only thing I knew about what was happening. Was my phone blowing up. From people texting.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Oh wow. It's also bathtub party day. Uh huh. What does that mean? Is that like the tub party? You can take an ordinary shower. And linger in the tub instead. But a party suggests multiple people.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Taking a bath together. It sounds like a suspiciously crowded affair, but it doesn't have to be. Granted, if you have young children, it's a time saver to plunk two or three of them in the tub at once. Yeah. Get the whole neighborhood in there. Save everybody some time. Be an efficient neighborhood. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Eggnog in the Fridge.
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Starting point is 00:04:34 and talented comic and writer whose one-man show, Solo, just had a run at the Soho Playhouse and I think has been extended. Covers everything from 30-year-old bros, high school relationships, love, heartbreak, and most importantly for my purposes, Taco Bell. You also know him from every line Andy's boyfriend has in The Devil Wears Prada, which we highlighted
Starting point is 00:04:57 on this podcast. It's Gabe Malika! What's up, everybody? What's up, Gabe? Welcome to the show. I'm living the dream. I appreciate you guys having me. And yes, my show was extended.
Starting point is 00:05:08 We haven't announced it, but I'll tell you guys. Six weeks starting in January. So it's like no things. Nice. It's that good. Damn. Yeah, people like it, man. It's been fun.
Starting point is 00:05:18 That's awesome. That's awesome. Thank you. Taco Bell. Want to talk about it. It's important to me. Just glad. Are you excited about any of the things that came back on the menu this year? You know, I was never a Mexican pizza guy and I was not. I'm a chicken quesadilla truther. Oh, and it came back. And then like it's like the only thing that gave me like a little bit of a stomach ache. And I was like, OK, I just like I know where I align in the Taco Bell discourse. I'm a chicken quesadilla guy for
Starting point is 00:05:45 through and through. I ask them to leave the chicken quesadilla on for a little longer. I say, hey, could you keep that on for 10 extra seconds for me? Smart. No, you don't. You say that? Yeah, I do. I love that. What's wrong with that? No, because you always talk about how you're the last guy to
Starting point is 00:06:01 send a meal back at a restaurant. I don't take it and then say, no i know that i know that but i just i didn't know like you do custom shit too like even at taco bell like it's the most seconds i feel like they're sometimes they're just like yeah sure and i know they don't do it because it comes out floppy but sometimes they appreciate that they're dealing with somebody who who knows loves what they do for a living and knows that they can add joy to my life by, you know, just give me a little extra. Yeah. You ever go to a fast food place and the food comes out like hot and perfect
Starting point is 00:06:35 and like it's not a mess back there and you know there's just one employee who's just like willing it into existence? Yeah. For me, there's an Atlantic City city comedy club it's like this theater and it's owned by the people who run new york comedy club so we all go out there it's not you don't make a lot of money but you get to play a theater and the next day there's this mcdonald's or this taco bell that just like the food is pristine like you would not need to tell them extra 10 seconds on that quesadilla and you get it in two seconds oh wow yeah and you can say
Starting point is 00:07:04 maxi melt without having to tell them how to fucking assemble it from existing menu items like yeah it's a bygone item okay oh i'm sure their off menu is bananas that's the deep dive magazine article i want somebody to do is like best taco bell in america just like the they nail every piece of food and there's somebody who's back there who's just Bell, you know, quesadilla artist. Who deserves a living wage. Yeah. We would cut that out because this deep dive article is appearing in the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:07:38 So that wouldn't be back. That version I would be like, and this person, like the sense of pride they have when they clock in for their shift every day is truly inspiring, despite them going back to an apartment with many family members that are depending on them. It's like, oh, what about the. OK, fine. Just just big up the case. It'd be a part. But I do like I do like a pristine. It's it is like a moment when you eat something like it's like what the commercial made me feel like.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah. Yeah. Because most of the time it's a mess. We've all all been doing mcdonald's at two in the morning and it just takes forever and like i'm not even mad at them like for me that's the standard but then when it's amazing you're like oh damn a mcchicken is like transcendental right oh this one just came out the fryer thank you yeah yeah sometimes at two in the morning at mcdonald's my custom order is just just dump the bag in my lap. Just the whole... Whatever you got back there, it's fine. Make it.
Starting point is 00:08:27 You want a bag? Nah, just throw it through the window. You keep the bag. Okay, sir. All right, Gabe, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're talking about the protests happening in China and how they started, what they mean. We're going to talk about just like kind of the mainstream media's perception of the Trump era as I'm going to use this new George Saunders book and George Saunders, just
Starting point is 00:09:01 the writer George Saunders as a as a lens to examine, you know, what they're like. America's good. It's just going through a rough patch because this this dang maniac came through and got everybody riled up. But we'll go back to being good guy soon. So I'm going to talk about that and why why that's frustrating. We're going to talk about Lindsay Lohanpsi milk commercial oh yeah lindsey lohan milk this is this story is really super interesting actually because it first of all it started with a utah like church of latter-day saints trend where you know they don't get to fuck with alcohol or any any of that stuff so
Starting point is 00:09:46 they like get really in-depth and thoughtful about their soda drinks and there's like competing soda bars and one of them started doing what they call dirty sodas which is just like pouring milk in sodas and sounds really gross to me and i haven't tried it but people are fucking with it enough that pepsi has come up off their decades-long marketing tactic of just being like hey do you like popular music then you'll like pepsi like spice girls and and they've uh they're they're trying something that actually has to do with their product so that's exciting oh i thought it was like some more like outrage marketing no just being like we're introducing pilk and people probably but i don't probably get some of that it sounds
Starting point is 00:10:36 disgusting but i didn't know it had like a legit origin yeah dirty I mean, those were going viral for the past couple years. Like, people just fucking with milk and various sodas. Dirty soda. Yeah. Okay. Anyways, we'll get into it. When I hear Dirty Sprite, I think of something completely different. Yeah, exactly. But go ahead.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But that's, in Utah, they have a different kind of Dirty Sprite. And in Houston, a completely other Dirty Sprite. Yeah. But, okay, shout out. Yeah, much better try try the utah version first before you go to the houston version we start sipping lean okay yeah but before we get to any of that shit gabe we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history oh man so this is a little bit embarrassing but i had never seen until this week planes trains and
Starting point is 00:11:22 automobiles and i finally watched it and john candy man just like blew me away and like i knew him from stuff and i liked him and a little cameo on home alone cool runnings but the last thing i googled was a deep dive just like i need to learn everything about john candy give me all the candy yeah yeah man he's just like he's great guy to work out on set he had all these problems he showed up with like weights and like workout gear to the set of planes trains and automobiles and then steve martin was like and he never touched it i was like oh this poor guy like he he's so talented and so fraught and i think we like we give like farley gets so much props and he should and you know some of those performers but like candy gets like a little missed because like he was 44
Starting point is 00:12:05 like he wasn't that old i guess farley wasn't either yeah but yeah my god the the deep the every search was just like more john candy things yeah uncle buck is he is a real good candy showcase carrying that thing yeah yeah yeah what was the thing about him in uh like home alone like he did that for free? Yeah. Just as a favor? He was just like, yeah, I could come by and do it. And he was there for a few days. 24 straight hours.
Starting point is 00:12:33 They used him 24 straight hours and they finally let him go. Wow. He got paid less than the pizza guy in the movie. Well, that guy was doing work. I mean, he had to act like he was being shot at. Yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? We're going to go more food today. I had it the other day and it just did not hit, which is Chipotle, man. It was just a sour cream bowl with lettuce. And I was like, this used to mean something to me. Hey, hold on. What?
Starting point is 00:12:59 It was sour cream. You just have sour cream in a bowl with lettuce? No, no, no. They just like, that's like where the lettuce? No, no, no. They just like, that's like where the heavy hand was. Yeah, yeah. Okay. You know,
Starting point is 00:13:08 I just had my standard sour. It was my standard order of sour cream bowl with lettuce. And it just, it wasn't on game. You know what stinks? Other people. Living like a monster. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I mean, I think it like, it had its heyday. Like, I i mean at least i remember when i was eating heavy it was like 2011 yeah like heavy like you couldn't get you had to fucking like like pull me out of there because i was just about that life and then i think over time you just kind of like this isn't actually the best mexican food you can eat so it more just becomes like i think because they had a burrito bowl was like the first thing that like inspired me to go and then after a while i'm like you know what i i like burritos enough that i'll have
Starting point is 00:13:53 a real one yeah every local mexican place is cheaper and better right basically no matter where you are like even on long island like my friends were like i hang out with my bros a lot and like we're not no one's ever like, yeah, tonight's the Chipotle night. It just doesn't happen. Right, right, right. Yeah. It was for a while. It had a run.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And I do feel like, I want to say on behalf of Chipotle, I like their chips. I like their chips with the, you know, sometimes I'll have a little extra salsa. Sometimes I'll splurge for the guac. But I do like, their chips are inconsistent even within the bag but there's like always one chip that like gets gets the lime juice and the salt and really hits hard so i don't know i i still kind of like chipotle but i also haven't had it for like a year and a half so maybe they've fallen off i will say like they i have gone to chipotle and been very disappointed with what with the results so there there's a lot of variability yeah like i don't like again i don't hate chipotle i'm just it's low on my list if i'm
Starting point is 00:14:56 looking at things i want to eat and i think like because jack when we were when we had that like studio in hollywood we would always still got it baby yeah yeah we just don't got it baby uh but i remember that was the time like i would only eat chipotle was because i'm like well shit i already maxed out on everything around here like and we'd be like i guess we'll go to chipotle yeah but yeah i have noticed that they boxed up the stuff from your desk finally two years after we left for the pandemic and sent it home to you and ever since then you've been talking about the the the studio in the past tense yeah i'm just here to say it's still there i mean i've even opened the box it's like yeah it's like schrodinger's like lost stuff box like i don't want it to be real so i'm just gonna avoid it i opened a box full of like old work stuff from like an old
Starting point is 00:15:45 job and i was just like just reminded me how much i hated my yeah i love i love yeah i love stumbling upon old pack your desk boxes that you have really um the one i found from when i worked at playboy like i threw away because it gave me a panic attack yeah like all the to-do lists and shit that i used to like tape to the side of my fucking computer just like came flying out like they were the spirits and ghostbusters when like that shit when the spirit trap gets opened yeah it was bad news gabe what's something you think is underrated uh i've been thinking about this a lot because i've been trying to like give myself a nice routine in life. And if I'm thriving, if I'm like firing at all cylinders, I'm eating fruit every day. And we're not talking about fruit enough.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yeah. Fresh fruit. Give me some fruit, man. All the time. Fire them off. Rattle them off. Oh, I'm having bananas. I'm having blueberries today.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I just had some pineapple and oh, I'm crushing it here. I don't care all seasons who cares give me more fruit feeling good yeah pineapple peak pineapple when it's like at its most ripe is my favorite fruit i think it's i don't even know can we call that fruit it's so delicious it's so fucking sweet i'm like there's no fucking way like that we can call this a healthy thing to eat. I'm starting to see streaks of light
Starting point is 00:17:10 in my line of vision from how sweet it is. Also, my favorite fake flavor. I think they've mostly nailed pineapple in gum and shit like that. It generally is fruit. I guess there's not a lot of like pineapple
Starting point is 00:17:25 candy but the i i do not in the u.s yeah i do tend to enjoy a lot of pineapple gum and pineapple flavored things uh blueberries year round they're they're never that bad i agree we've been talking a lot about apples on this podcast but i think i think we should spend some time on bananas bananas are fucking delicious and i don't like them you don't like bananas no i mean we've talked about to make my throat itch oh yeah that's right you have you might be allergic yeah yeah yeah yeah that's all that's right justin's allergic too yeah but i eat but i have the same thing with avocados it's like those high potassium foods they like trigger little things in my throat or like my lip. But avocados, I fucking fight.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Those of us who can enjoy them, bananas are a real blessing. Real, real mitzvah. Yeah. I feel like we, yeah. They make me think of Tiger Woods because it's like a thing he'll eat right before he like wins a golf tournament. Yeah. What's he doing?
Starting point is 00:18:24 He's like walking to the last hole and he's just like pounding a banana. I'm like, Oh, I guess that's what you're supposed to eat. Yeah. I bring it for my kids. Anytime I need to like give them a snack. It's like the easiest thing.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Like it's, it's so good. They're a fruit that is creamy. Like there's not, are there other fruits that are creamy? But like, if you're like doing a, doing a,
Starting point is 00:18:43 a smoothie, like there's such a good base that adds. It's like, would you put like ice cream in this? Nope. Just bananas. That's, yeah. I guess guava is a good creamy replacement according to super producer Justin. And I heard people like the organic people, the people who like are worried about their food, which we just talked a lot about Taco Bell. I can't imagine that's any of us.
Starting point is 00:19:09 But like the skin is super thick. So like it's not one of those food like when you need an apple like the skin has just been like rolling around in the truck for four years right but like a banana is like protected so it's it's a pretty safe even for like the uh i mean i get the organic i spend the 20 cents but yeah it's like an armadillo. It's got a thick skin on it. You know, there's nothing getting through there. I am very suspicious of the amount of, like, really glossy apple skins that I've consumed, like, that look like they were
Starting point is 00:19:36 buffed out with, like, car wax. It's like, come on. They shouldn't look that good. Yeah, every day of the year, they look the same. It's like, something's wrong. There used to be... Food used to go bad, and it was so bad. Yeah. Amazing. didn't look that good. Every day of the year, they look the same. It's like something's wrong. Food used to go bad, and it was okay. Amazing.
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Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, that's one part of it. Which is one part of it, but there's also another part that's kind of getting written out of the story. There are many parts of it. Yeah, I think, I mean, obviously, the zero COVID has a lot to do with it and that extends into other things like labor,
Starting point is 00:23:38 specifically at like factories that make app like iPhones or Teslas. But, you know, things came to a head like the zero covid policy has been like a huge huge like like fucked up experience for the people in china like if you know anybody who's who lives out there and has been like locked down it's like wait you really can't like even leave and like you can't even go outside they're like no you can my spoiled ass thought that they were like forcing them to wear masks like that that was my vert like i'm like well what would anger americans that much maybe masks yeah no they're chaining them inside their homes and places of
Starting point is 00:24:17 work right so things came to a head when this fire broke out in an apartment building in the capital of the xjiang province, which is where like the mass surveillance and incarceration of Muslim minorities, like the Uyghurs, that's been, it's worth taking place there. 10 people died as a result of this fire. And the fire was particularly horrifying because of these COVID lockdowns, the firefighters weren't even able to get their trucks like close enough to the buildings because of all the like barricades that have been put up to keep people from like leaving and the videos are harrowing because you're seeing like fire trucks where the water is barely like touching the exterior of this flaming building
Starting point is 00:24:56 and you're hearing people like like just like screaming from inside the fire yeah and it's really and i think that kind of i think the absurdity of all that just inspired many people to be like, this is like this is completely terrible. And what we see now are these protests that have, you know, spread across the country where people like spontaneously and you're seeing people doing like just holding up blank sheets of white paper as a way to demonstrate while like navigating like censorship laws. And the big parts of it, too, are like it's really there's so many dimensions to it. But one dimension is, yes, the lockdowns and they're not like what we have in the U.S. where you can still go out for necessary activity. And even then in the U.S., like the enforcement was like really none. It was like about whether or not you gave a fuck about yourself enough.
Starting point is 00:25:44 In China, it's like unlike anything else in the world. Like you're saying, Jack, like in some cases, people's doors are barred shut. The exits to buildings are being chained up. So there's no escape. And this has led to all kinds of problems, not just like I can't get out of my house. It's like I need dialysis and I can't get out of my house. I need medical care and I can't get out of my house. I'm not a, you know, white collar tech worker, so I can't even work because I can't leave the house. And it's like going across different classes, ethnicities, and now people are basically out here demonstrating, like you said, in ways that, you know, certainly Xi Jinping has not seen this in his tenure as leader, but in decades since Tiananmen. And the other part of it, the other part of it, too, in terms basically means the workers sleep at the factories and do not leave until they deem the outbreak to be under control some workers have been stuck
Starting point is 00:26:53 sorry what what a great like use of like corporate euphemistic like that might be corporate euphemism greatest work is closed loop management yeah as a as a term for when yeah human caging exactly it's really actually lock the gates is what it should be called and some workers were stuck at the factory for 70 days and so this led to workers breaking down barricades literally running for the exits and clashing with police who are like trying to keep them in. And again, most of the reporting leaves out this element because, again, I think it's easier to just focus on like the draconian policy of like zero COVID. But it does ignore how like the other dimensions that are leading people to get out in the streets in ways that we certainly haven't seen.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And I think, you know, the other part of it is, like, the people that are starting to push back, like, there's a lot of writing about how, especially a lot of, like, sort of middle-class Chinese people are beginning to, like, really understand just the unchecked power of the state because this has been going on for, like, three years now and without any sign of things, you know, abating. And right now,
Starting point is 00:28:07 like the government's done things like, all right, you know what? We'll ease some of the restrictions as a way to kind of keep things from boiling over. They've even like sent college students home early for their breaks because a lot of the demonstrations are happening at universities. So they figure, oh, if we send them home for break, they're less likely to congregate and begin demonstrating again. So they're trying to do these little things to bring the like sort of temperature down. But it's clear that a lot of the people are now sort of in this space where they're absolutely unable to act like they can endure any of this anymore. And that's what's and i think for the people who are like saying like oh this could lead to regime change uh but let's let's not get ahead of
Starting point is 00:28:49 ourselves here like the china has quite literally been preparing for mass demonstrations for decades and just as a matter of like policy they they're there's they they know they have to allow for a little bit of room for people to just blow some steam off in order to try and like stay stay in control so it's uh it's it's something that's really interesting to look at because it's just like many other situations we've seen around the world where these uprisings come out organically because of people's inability to support themselves the you know overreach of the government and and you end up with like this truly like you know uh far-reaching group of people who are like advocating for their own well-being so yeah yeah so it's a wild
Starting point is 00:29:32 situation right there yeah they i mean the the level to which they have like techno dictatorship is just like that my first thought when seeing the pictures of the people protesting was just you know admiration and just being like kind of in awe of the bravery because that's a place where people just disappear like you just get yeah and right now to jail for you know saying anything for like putting up a picture of winnie the pooh because xi jinping thinks that winnie the pooh looks too much like him yeah or people insult him with that image but right yeah it's like you know i mean you look at a lot of the other things that like you've seen i don't know if you've seen like footage of like mass like drone spraying of like chemicals to try and like
Starting point is 00:30:20 disinfect cities and like there is a lot of technological know-how going into this stuff. But I think, you know, I look around and I'm always heartened to see, even though obviously the circumstances in which people are like sort of getting in touch with like their outrage or sense of what is owed to them. You know, I just feel like it's,
Starting point is 00:30:41 we're like in this situation where it's not just, it's not just limited to one country where the situation is the same for many people. I think many people can look at this and say, I'm in a situation where I don't think my wages are high enough and I feel like my labor is being exploited. I also don't agree with like a lot of these policies that are supposedly meant to benefit like myself or give me rights. In fact, I feel like I have less rights and like watching this evolve in certain places, just kind of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:08 It's in that moment. I mean, the thing that it feels like, you know, protests and, you know, movements around the world have in common is like human beings who are like being told by people in power or the wealthy people in power,
Starting point is 00:31:24 I guess that like, you know know it's not raining when it is raining or you know just like being told like that what you're seeing happen i'm like what's evident to you is not happening and i do feel like that is increasingly hard to hard to manage when people have the ability to like kind of communicate with one another but yeah and and then all i mean in this case it's to control covet but just caging human beings and making them stay in a in a cage is is a bad policy yeah maybe revisit that one it reminded me of the world cup did you you watch the stuff about the people who built the World Cup stadiums? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Where it's like that type of control over people. I'm like, oh, this is a massive labor issue. And then what the right does in America is then they point, they'll be like, oh, America is like the rail strike. Who cares about that? Look at the people in China. And they bad faith read it. I'm like, no, no, no. You can have solidarity for all people depending on what their situation is. It's always such a, that's like the right in America loves to do that. We're like, Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:31 LeBron, do you care about factory workers in China? I'm like, do you know you're writing this on your iPhone? Yeah. Yeah. That stuff. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:32:39 So infuriating. Yeah. All right. Well, speaking of kind of the mainstream culture in the united states i wanted to talk about just something so there's this new george saunders book george saunders wrote civil war land in bad decline and 10th of december and is like a very lauded novelist and fiction writer i think he won the award for lincoln and the bardo which which is I was not able to write that because it just opens with like all these wrenching passages about like child children dying.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And I just like can't do that shit when I have children. So I couldn't make it through that one. Beautifully written. And he's a he's a really good writer. I really like Civil War Land and Bad Decline. And he has a new series of short stories coming out. It's his first in nine years. And it's like eliciting all these interviews and media appearances and being heralded as like a big moment in literature for serious people. But it's
Starting point is 00:33:37 a lot of the stories are grappling with America, like Trumpian America, post-Trump America. And it just seems to be a subject that he's incapable of writing and thinking about in a way that's like coherent and interesting. And I think it like the way that he's unable to do it kind of solidify or like crystallize some of the stuff that i think we've seen over the past six years with the way that the mainstream media and like mainstream culture has had a hard time with it and it kind of comes back to this this central idea that he's said a bunch of times like so he wrote he wrote this piece in 2017 for The New Yorker that was like he went to a couple of Trump rallies and just kind of screaming about like wanting to hang the media and you know just being overtly racist and like his take i remember like it just being a fucking slug to get through and also just like nothing that he
Starting point is 00:34:58 said really sticking and it his central thesis seemed to be like, this isn't America like this is like America is a good place. And Trump has come in from the outside and is this like foreign adjutant that has like caused people to forget who they are. I think that's also a good summary of like kind of what I've seen in the mainstream media, at least like and that I people who are worried Trump could win bedwetters and just were like this. Guys, this is this is a joke. This guy's a this guy's an idiot. Nobody's going to vote for this idiot. And since that time, you know, some of us have recognized that there are major problems with America that are going completely ignored and unaddressed by the mainstream media and that that's where that anger is coming from. And that's why Trump should have been taken seriously one statement and then it's going to be it's going to be over for him. And, you know, that then people will come out of their trance. And, you know, even even as like fascism has popped up from our like most popular rapper at the time Trump was elected and from their technocratic ubermensch who was like supposed to solve the problems we were facing with climate change by being like real world
Starting point is 00:36:51 tony stark like that guy's a fascist now and they're still in a world where like these are isolated problems that were caused by this trump guy being being a real jerk and like i keep thinking about colbert and the fact that like he went from during the bush administration being like our greatest satirist to being like a late night talk show host whose best joke about trump was like calling him putin's cock holster or like that was the one that like most people were like woo yeah, yeah, got his ass. Got him. Yeah. And with what? Yeah, so Jacobin did a good,
Starting point is 00:37:30 like Jacobin reviewed his new series of short stories. I haven't read them yet, but just in looking at them, it kind of encapsulates, I think, what the issue is and like how they're seeing this issue. Like one of his stories in his new book is about a dystopian America where an elderly unhoused man has been like brainwashed by the government into saying like,
Starting point is 00:37:55 but like the brainwashed version of this guy is meant to be a version of like a Trump supporter. It's called Elliot Spencer. The story is, and he's like had his mind wiped and been reprogrammed with simplistic talking points. And, you know, the Jacobin writer kind of points out that this, if the shouting rally goers are brainwashed, then they don't really mean what they say. And that's the thing he keeps coming back to is like,
Starting point is 00:38:29 they don't really mean that. Like in his New Yorker profile, he's like, they, the Americans are good and they've just been corrupted by this outside influence. And meanwhile, so like,
Starting point is 00:38:39 as I was reading this summary of his piece about like brainwashed, unhoused man who has his mind wiped, like meanwhile in the news that day, the New York times reported on the fact that there's a new law that says armed police officers and the NYPD, who by the way, are very fond of inadvertently in quotes, shooting and killing poor people can just determine someone is mentally ill like they
Starting point is 00:39:07 have access to the precogs and just cage them even if they're not a danger just giving first of all the like granting oneself the power of foresight seems to be a trend in this version of fascism like we were talking about how effective altruism people are like what we actually know what's going to be a problem in, you know, 3000 years. And that's what we're investing our money in and not climate change. But like the NYPD giving themselves the power of foresight in order to allow them to just claim whoever they want is mentally ill and might later pose a danger and like cage them is, you know, it's a dystopian reality. Like, why would you need to create a dystopian reality in that report? Just describe our world at present. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And I don't know. I also was thinking about the John Mulaney metaphor. Like the, these are like things that stick out to me from the like trump administration and like the jokes that people people were like oh comedies can be so good during the trump administration and like john melanie had that one where he was like trump's like a horse got it loose in a hospital and in this case like america is supposed to be an orderly hospital and trump is like this outside chaotic agent. But I don't know. I don't
Starting point is 00:40:27 know. It was probably inadvertent, but came from like his subconscious that it's interesting that he chose a hospital because, again, American hospitals don't actually take care of you if you don't have a job that pays for your insurance, though. I think that's what it is. We're all about these concepts without actually reckoning with what the realities are. You know, I think so much of his inability to like grapple with what's happening is because he's firmly existing in this version of America where he's like, yeah, bad stuff happened, but that's over. right and it's not bad stuff is the fucking dna of this country and because we haven't reckoned with it it's just gonna keep popping back up in these weird ways because we've never reckoned with it like so that it's it and i think that's why it's interesting too like you were saying is some people have figured out for a while america's like, yeah, I've, uh, based on what I've read,
Starting point is 00:41:26 this place didn't sound great for people like me since the onset. And even now, and then there are others who are able to kind of just separate themselves from, I think like this happens in so many countries, especially ones that started off as like violent, like cult, like colonies.
Starting point is 00:41:42 It's just easier to like, kind of forget that it's built on these like really violent transgressions and to not reckon with that and then like realize that it's like echoing into the future it's just i think it's a it's a bit ignorant yeah and it just seems like any version of america that attempts to grapple with trumpism that doesn't take that into account, like, is just going to be perpetuating the problem, which is that Trump and the far right are the only people who are willing to acknowledge that the current system of corporate rule and no health care don't work and aren't just or decent. And they acknowledge that in the service of a grift. But that makes sense because the only thing that you're allowed to say and like gain traction with in America is like whatever is just like criticism that gets at like the very foundation and acknowledges that there are still these these massive fucking problems that this is highlighting the fact that we've never really addressed these problems.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yeah. The denial part, though, too, is like a way people absolve themselves from having to do anything to, you know, if if George Saunders is like, if it weren't for this Trump guy, we'd all be fine. Right. That just means the work is Trump just has to go. That's the work in that scenario. The work is we just to actually all be like collectively moving in the same direction for like the betterment of society and grappling with these like really heavy topics and knowing like, well, what's my what's my part in perpetuating this any given system of oppression? What's my part in that? Because if I'm able to just say these fucking Republicans, well, then guess what? because if I'm able to just say these fucking Republicans, well, then guess what? I have no work to do because it's all of them. And I think that's a really dangerous subconscious thing that Americans do to themselves to keep themselves from putting in or bringing a little more awareness to the things that need work.
Starting point is 00:44:01 But that is where the, you know that that's why we like probably the number one subject on this podcast has become like the mainstream media like myth and just like you know having the wool like pulling just covering shit up like the you know george saunders probably reads the new york times and like the new york times the day of that eric adams like new mypd thing they their article like doesn't talk about inequality or the real estate industry causing homelessness when they covered the this like new precog program they treat it as like you know it's a desperate solution because homelessness is out of control and you know they just ignore the structural causes and so that's what it's like that that feels like such a important and foundational
Starting point is 00:44:53 problem that is kind of going unaddressed because the mainstream media is the mainstream media but yeah i don't know there's an op-ed in the new york times right now what white voters see in herschel walker yes yeah i think that's why podcasts like this one are are like important i don't want to blow too much smoke but it's like oh if the mainstream medium is not going to give us like the actual narrative about like how the real estate agent how the real estate business is causing homelessness we need to go to third-party sites and we need to make the or third party media and we need to make sure the third party media that they're going to isn't like the world's dumbest people who are fascists it's like smart empathetic people right like want to do the work and with trump stuff it's like oh if you for
Starting point is 00:45:38 me it's like oh the best way to defeat trump is to make the opposite side make everyone's lives so much better that they look at Trump like, oh, that guy's an idiot who never got, did anything for me. Right. Offer me healthcare, offer me college.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Like I, a guy I work with, I convinced him to be a Bernie guy in like 20 minutes. I was like, you got student debt, right? And he's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And I was like, wouldn't it be great if that were gone? He was like, that would be sweet. How could that happen? Took 20 minutes. He's like, I'm going to register.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah, I know. I know. But um but yeah give us make my life better it's it's that's and that's what's so fucked up right is because you have one the democrats are like oh yeah we could make people's lives better but they're making it so easy for us to do fuck all that all we have to do is being like, yo, can you believe we had dinner with? Oh my God. Y'all, that is a mess. Don't fucking ask about sick days if you're a fucking rail work, like a rail worker. Fuck out of here. They love the social
Starting point is 00:46:36 issues that aren't political. Democrats are happy to talk about Kanye or Trump meeting with Nick Fuentes or whatever. They're happy to talk about that because it means they don't have to talk about sick days or like trump meeting with nick fuentes or whatever they're happy to talk about that because it means they also talk about sick days you're totally right don't do the work not npr this morning was talking about the rail strike and just being you know just being like and they didn't dig into any like didn't give any account that like this might
Starting point is 00:47:01 have fucked people over and made it so that people you know workers can just be railroaded going forward they were just like and that was their concern this is moving forward to save america's economy shame on and shame on every single fucker fucking democrat who did not fucking side with the workers on this i mean not that i expected them to but for all the fucking assholes who are like oh i'm all i'm about the workers and shit it's like no you're just you're just doing the thing where you become a loose collection of the right opinions during a campaign and then just revert to your other shit and i'm not surprised but like this felt it just feels like such an easy thing to do but at the end of the day you forget that
Starting point is 00:47:44 there's millions of dollars being poured in on the other side by the railroad companies to make sure that these people arrive at that decision. Like they invest in this. They're lobbying as an investment for shit like this. And then when it comes time, like, hey, man, remember, we hooked you all up. And they're like, yeah, yeah, the economy. Thank you. I'll use that talking point to then say we got to worry about the economy but it's then again contradicts all this shit about the fucking essential workers like in the pant like at the start of the pandemic it's like well these people are so
Starting point is 00:48:14 fucking essential yeah that your whole thing is like if they stop let the line go down then motherfucker you better get in your bag quick and pull out some cash don't bag pots and pants we want sick days it's exactly yeah and it the other thing just about the like this mainstream media sort of everything's cool here sort of central like gravitational like force that just that that is the viewpoint and like you can get away from that for a second but it's gonna you're gonna come back to that is like that is also going to be ultimately the less like people want truth like msnbc cnn like these places that are like oh we don't know what to do people aren't watching us anymore like we don't you know and like the newspaper industry is in
Starting point is 00:49:05 and like nope it's like the the truth is actively being suppressed you you would think that somebody would be like i i have this crazy idea to to make money for us what if we actually like told the truth about this shit and it's it's just wild that it's nobody's doing that and it feels like it's going to like that that should be because there is money to be made it should be a thing that america is capable of is at least telling the fucking truth about this because you can make money off of telling people the truth because people want to be told the truth but there are these structural things in place of the washington post being owned by jeff bezos for instance yeah yeah throw some smart funny leftists on those talk shows and they'll suddenly be very watchable you know if matt chrisman were on crossfire it'd be sweet yeah they like they
Starting point is 00:50:00 kick you off because you're like dude go easy go easy on Andrea Mitchell, man. Right. Dude, she just fucking said George Bush was cool. Are you like, what? We're doing this? Alright, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about Pilk, I guess is what it's called. I feel like they could have done better
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Starting point is 00:53:40 Pep Silk? Pep and Silk. Mepsy. Milksy. Milksy. Yeah, Milksy is cute milk milksy pilk sounds sounds disgusting it sounds like something wayne and garth would have like said for vomiting oh you're right like mung yeah they had those like dude? What about pilk? Anyways, Lindsay Lohan, someone in, while they were deciding to ignore, you know, labor issues and like what actually affects people's lives,
Starting point is 00:54:14 like somewhere in the big boardrooms where all the Ivy League graduates have like gone to work, they've decided Christmas 2022 is 2022 is season oh lohan all right and yeah she appeared in the netflix holiday movie which miles watched and said it's his favorite movie of all time also shout out we had zeitgang who was crew on that film and they dm me some some shit are you all there but i'm not gonna i'm not violating no i don't want to violate any trust but i and i mean no it wasn't like it wasn't like anything right out of this world but it's just more like little things that i was like oh that's that's quirky
Starting point is 00:54:56 yeah well zeitgang who work on things let us yeah we're here for this dm us with good stories from behind the scenes of especially if you're working with, you know, just the worst wealthy people. I want to know
Starting point is 00:55:10 about what the extremely wealthy do behind the scenes. Right. And we will quote you anonymously. But anyway, so she is the official mascot
Starting point is 00:55:19 for the holidays and for a new Pepsi commercial, which is advising everyone to drink pilk, which is a combination of Pepsi, milk, and giving up on just everything. But she's also doing like TikTok videos that show people how to make pilk. And then there's a commercial where we see her living room and there's a glass of milk and a plate of cookies and you know left out for santa but when santa shows up he adds a can of pepsi to the milk to wash down the uh
Starting point is 00:55:52 presumably to wash down the caffeine pills and amphetamines that he has to do to just get through the night um could you imagine if you were somewhere and saw someone just roll up with Pepsi that they brought with them and pour it in a milk. Like, you would be like, yo. You bring it to fucking Starbucks? Hey, give me a cup of milk with room for Pepsi. What? Anyway, she sneaks in, scares Santa. He disappears.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And then Lindsay Lohan drinks her pilk uh his pilk actually and eats his cookies which is fucked up but you know we'll allow it dude drinks his pilk and eats his cookies sounds like euphemistic but yeah we'll leave it's hot it's just so weird this image though by the way like this still it looks like they're trying to sell you like a like a cold brew yeah i was thinking that floating down like that's what it because like it's like they're trying to sell you like a like a cold brew yeah i was thinking that floating down like that's what it because like it's definitely they they're they they topped it with milk to watch it go down i'm like it's so in a way i'm like i know a drink that looks like that that i like yeah yeah clever yeah it looks like guinness a little bit too like with the
Starting point is 00:57:02 brown and the white kind of mixing. Also, the ad or I guess one of her viral videos, she claims that it's adding a little naughty milk to the nice Pepsi, which is exactly backwards. Hey, they don't see they don't want to brand their shit as naughty. Probably, you know, somebody in the board was like, no, we can't associate Pepsi with naughty. That was the second take where they were like, great work, Lindsay. We have one note. Pepsi is actually the nice thing. And the milk is naughty. Milk is naturally occurring.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Pepsi is like made in the lab. But a lot of people, you know, have been doing their job as citizens of the Internet and trying pilk and the raves are in. And at best, it is not as disgusting as it sounds. That's a direct quote. At worst, people think it tastes like shit and smells like shoes. shoes so but this is actually pepsi the attempt to cash in on the dirty soda trend which was a tiktok this year but actually began with the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints in utah because you know so many things are banned that the mormons have been just going wild with the sugary drinks and like coming up with different combining dairy
Starting point is 00:58:26 like cream or milk with sodas and flavored syrup and sometimes fruit and i stealing the stealing the name of dirty sprite to be like this we can get a little wild too yeah i'm like you're not sipping promethazine fuck out of of here. But OK, that's fine. Yeah, there's but it's like there are a thing in Utah that we don't have here, but it actually sounds fine, especially to someone who doesn thing before, but like they're not. Huh. They're not a growth industry these days, I would say. But they're like there's a whole like war between the leading soda shops, between Swig and Soda-licious, because like one of them's like, we came up with dirty soda. You copied off of us. Like one of their creations. I'm just going to describe it to you.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Oh, my. One of their creations. I'm just going to describe it to you. Oh, my. 44 ounces of Sprite, coconut creamer, and a healthy dose of watermelon, strawberry, coconut, tarani syrup. Can you, like, that is so sweet. Like, it hurts my teeth to even read that. One of my teeth, my tooth fell out hearing it.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Jesus. So, 44 ounces. I remember AM PM used to have a thing called the 44 ouncer. That was like a cup of mug. You could bring it for like truckers and you could just fill that shit up all the time. I remember when I saw one as a kid, I was like, this ain't a fuck. Who's this for this amount of liquid? Then I started partying and I was like, oh, a 40.
Starting point is 01:00:02 So now, now we have the image of imagine drinking a fucking 40 plus four more ounces of all this shit wow oh and the tarani syrup from the fucking that's like that uh barista flavored syrup right yeah the one that's like i want four pumps yeah yeah it has like the cursive logo yeah we talked about food a lot at the beginning and i do love food but i think it's because i get like no calories from drinks where i'm like no no i don't want to ruin my day i want to be able to eat later right yeah yeah such a waste that's the way it was supposed to be i mean well or at least it was for a long time right it was water or like wine mixed with water was like the only thing that anybody could drink. And yeah, apparently, Pilk isn't a new thing.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Pepsi milk was Penny Marshall's go to drink on Laverne and Shirley. OK. Oh, and milk and Coke was a viral trend back in 2019. Like, I can imagine this not being terrible. I guess we're going to have to give it a shot now that i've said that or i will have to give it a shot but i didn't i didn't know this is the first time it's crossing my desk during the lockdown my sister brought home like a cold brew but with like seltzer in it and it was like kind of like a bubbly yeah i people drinking this is like the bones of that kind of right right yeah there's something i i was offered that recently too they're like oh it's like a fizzy
Starting point is 01:01:27 cold brew i was like nah i'm good so it sounds like you're trying to cut out the good shit yeah just with soda water gabe did you grow up in new york uh long island yeah so did you ever did you grow up with egg creams oh yeah i love it i get made fun of because i get an egg cream wow i was gonna say that was my first my first i was gonna say my first interaction with something like pilk is an egg cream and i was so disappointed the first time i had a fucking egg cream so for people who don't know what an egg cream is it is chocolate milk with seltzer right that's basically what it is milk seltzer and syrup you know no milk it's seltzer and syrup no no milk it's seltzer and there's no
Starting point is 01:02:07 milk and there's no cream or there's no egg and there's no cream in it it's seltzer but there's and uh chocolate syrup oh really yeah i don't well i've had them with carbonated water for sure because i think i remember and milk i'm saying in milk because there was like a bottled one i remember i got from the store like when i was six years old i remember i'll get it every time because i thought it would be better than that subsequent time it was always the same shit oh yeah milk too milk too yeah yeah and the syrup yeah i guess it's like an egg cream you know why i i watched the west wing because i used to be a regular lib like everyone else and they drink them on in the west wing it's like a thing for not toby but uh oh god i can see his face black beard but he drinks them because he's from brooklyn
Starting point is 01:02:51 pirate so i started drinking them that way toby yeah toby yeah there you go anyways uh on this one uh on the pilk or moke? Kilt? Like, either way, I guess they're both equally like, you're playing God if you're trying to mix milk with Coke or Pepsi, but the ratio has to be right, because if you, if the ratio's off or it sits too long, the acid from the soda
Starting point is 01:03:20 curdles the milk, and then the chunks sink to the bottom, turning the drink as clear as crystal pepsi with what brownish sludge at the bottom wow wait what do you mean it turns the drink clear like it the milk it attaches to like the brown and then yeah and then that shit sounds dope yeah i'm gonna do that it sounds cool to watch it does not sound like something i want to drink you activated my 12 year old like brain that subsequently gets me my head ripped off by my mom what the fuck are you doing in here i'm like look
Starting point is 01:03:56 don't touch that it's gonna go clear yeah it sounds like something you should like light on fire at that point right you know Anyways, we'll try it. We'll let you know what we think. Yeah, or let us know. Also, I love your, look, Dirty Sodas. I know we have a Zyke gang out in Utah. Let us know your favorite Dirty Sodas or other bizarre drink combinations. The Soda Shop Wars.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Let us know which side you've chosen in the Soda Shop Wars. If there's been any flare-ups. Hopefully it doesn't get too violent. All right. Well, Gabe, truly a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. I love this pod. Where can people find you and follow you?
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah, Instagram's like the main one. That's how I'm doing most of my ads for this next theater run. And so we got six more weeks of theater shows, and then I'm taking it on the road, hopefully. Things keep going well. I'm going to do it in LA on January 28th. I'm doing it in Rochester next week.
Starting point is 01:04:48 So if you're around, come check it out. It's like a Birbiglia kind of hour. And I just hired my director is Greg Wallach, who worked with Hasan Minhaj on homecoming King. They like worked on that together. Oh, amazing,
Starting point is 01:04:58 man. Thanks. Congratulations. Hey, don't forget about us, man. On your way to the top. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yeah. I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to check that out when you're out out in la oh yeah comps for everybody all you guys oh amazing is there a tweet or some other work of social media that you've been enjoying yes i i read this yesterday and it really summed up the uh yesterday's news which is it's by at trevor combo jared binks wrote parentheses running for president. I love Hitler. My wife cheated on me so much.
Starting point is 01:05:34 It's like, wow, he's really going for it. That is one way to get elected. Yeah. That, that dis I love that tweet. That distillation of it is just so funny.
Starting point is 01:05:42 The parenthetical running for president i love hitler miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying man you find me uh at miles of gray on twitter instagram hive uh wherever uh find me there i'll also find jack and I on our basketball podcast, the goofiest basketball podcast of them all. Miles and Jack got Matt Booskies. An official NBA product
Starting point is 01:06:13 where Jack and I were in a meeting yesterday and Jack was like, there's no way they don't regret doing this show. But they don't. They love it. And also find me on... They love us, folks. They love us, folks. Also find me on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where we talk about 90 Day Fiance. Some tweets that I like.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I did like the one of them running for president one. Hilarious. Oh, another one. This is just from Roy at Roy Wood Jr. He just said, today I at three meetings today, nobody showed up prepared. Three got hauled off in the ambulance, sliced up. Two started buzzing. Wham! Wham!
Starting point is 01:06:52 And one took his shirt off talking about now who else want to fuck with Hollywood Court? I always thought it was Hollywood Cole. I thought his name was Hollywood Cole. And I thought it was Hollywood Coke. Yeah. I thought it was somebody saying their gangster name, and then someone was like, no, that's an actual project in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:07:09 I was like, that makes the most sense. Thank you for putting me on. And then another one from a favorite of ours, at PolyVeganOlin tweeted, what the fuck are fancy hotels doing without a squatty potty? I'm not paying to use the business room. I'm paying to shit like a king. And I totally agree with that and i was like that's
Starting point is 01:07:26 why i keep four phone books on get on it hotels what the fuck do you ever improvise a squatty potty improvise oh yeah yeah where like were you trying yeah like hey bring the suitcase in here yeah they should have tushies in there too i'm assuming it would be too hard to clean or something but they should they should have the whole, all the stuff that the internet has discovered and knows better for going to the bathroom. Like, come on. Come on. Come on, hotels. Some tweets.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I've been enjoying Naomi Tomkey. This is just straight up good advice. My top gift giving advice, and I'm good at gifts, and this is also something that i've always said is to not give anything related to a person's main interests that's already a priority for them they probably already know what they specifically want and or prioritize spending their own money on it i think that's good like that is the number one it's like hey you you like comedy? Here's a comedy book. You know? Or like, hey, you're a writer. Here's, I don't know. It's just a funny, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:33 And I find myself doing it, too, where I'm like, you know, just going with the thing that would be of use to them. So just come up with something that you like that you think they would like. Or, you know, write what you know and gift what you know yeah i think it's generally good advice jamie loftus tweeted a conversation with someone where the person wrote will you be my girlfriend i have a car i have a dog two dog and she said i'm getting married most And finally, in response to the news at the end of last week, Amy Lee Gemstone tweeted, Kanye West told Alex Jones that, I bite down on the capsule.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Pain, then pressure. I'm free. I open my eyes to the glory of an open field. Aromatic herbs and wildflowers aglow. My mother licks me clean and I bathe in my first dusk as a Shetland pony. That was a little bit how I was feeling. So,
Starting point is 01:09:30 appreciate it. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com
Starting point is 01:09:39 where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think
Starting point is 01:09:50 people might enjoy uh this is a track from the artist one oak o-a-k it's like one hyphen o dot a dot k dot and it's called every day and when the i was hearing it on the radio when the song first started i thought it was like a haunted like old christmas song like there's like this whole kind of chopped and screwed like vocalist thing happening and then it turns into this like really dope like modern r&b song this artist he's like a vocalist producer musician so i'm pretty sure he produces all of his beats which i always love like finding artists that are like from the top to bottom like involved with every single aspect of their music making and like the production is really cool and again i like when people are like saying i'm inspired by
Starting point is 01:10:34 stevie wonder and the neptunes but i'm trying to take it to 2023 oakland uh which is what this artist is trying to do so this is every Every Day by One Oak. All right. Well, go check that out. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning.
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