The Daily Zeitgeist - Pitching The Next Brand Movie, Paying With Your Face 03.20.23

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

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on the Discord. Yo, I'm gonna put the air horns in there for that one. All right. Yes. He can because I am thrilled to be joined by a very special guest, co-host, artist, musician, the producer of this very podcast. It is super producer, Justin Conner. Yo, yo, yo. It's Justin Conner, a.k.a. the Chi-Town Chi guy.

I am going to chicken out on doing an a.k.a. I put a call out. Oh, come on. I did put a call out, but I did not have enough time to prepare. I think I saw one or two, and they were great. They were fire. Yeah, they were great. I will do that the next time I co-host.

I'm committing to that right here. Jack Peer pressured me before we started. He said I was a coward, and I agreed with him. So now I have to do this next time. And I ripped open my shirt like Brendan Fraser in school ties and shouted it at his window. He made me count his abs as I repented for not doing this. Yeah, so we're at one over here on the ab front. But Justin, and by the way, I'm'm just gonna put it out there as an open

invitation even when miles is back next week maybe i don't know folks get excited maybe but you're always welcome to join in with an aka you know you're always welcome to pop on i'm gonna be violent with it i will be this i'm gonna disrupt the entire I'm gonna do it like 20 minutes into the recording Hey Justin Yeah just come in as you guys are talking about something Real sad Yeah please god those are the moments when we need it most In times like these

Justin You have an open invitation You got the green light to shoot away Swing away Yeah I'm gonna get Nathan Fielder with it. Just go really avant-garde and strange. Let's go. Please, the show needs it.

Well, Justin, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the greats. Legend. A hilarious actor, improviser, stand-up comedian who you've seen on Key & Peele Workaholics, Comedy Bang Bang, writes for TV shows like, I don't know, Grand Crew. Key and Peele Workaholics, Comedy Bang Bang, writes for TV shows like, I don't know, Grand Crew, video games and TV shows and video games about TV shows and TV shows about video games. Please welcome Noted Thought Dad, TM. It's Ify Wadiwe! Hello! Hello, it's your boy, Ify, coming in strong, ready to hold it down yet again.

Carving my face out on top of my Zite more. I know it's changed the light. Yeah, yeah. We're bringing it. I'm just, my face is crumbling back in. Yeah, it's still there. You just got it. You just need a few touch-ups.

Yeah, yeah. But I like the suggestion that you're carving your face back on top of other faces. Yeah, yeah. It just, Mount Zeitmore becomes one big iffy face. Yeah, yeah. I love it. We've made one side of my face larger. What's good, man? How are you doing?

Oh, man. I'm doing good. You know, it's been great. Just enjoying, you know, I just did the JoCo cruise last week, and that was a blast, you know, on a boat with a bunch of nerds doing nerdy stuff. I did some improv and yeah, now I'm feeling good. You know, I already went snowboarding. I'm trying to get it in as much before the before the, you know, it ends. The ice pack melts. Yeah.

Climate change makes it so you can only. I mean, the climate change is why the season is probably longer this year. Yeah, that's a nice thing. Well, Jack, we got those ground chillers, though. We're good. Yeah, we do have ground chillers. We have a giant apparatus to chill the ground and we'll, you know, we can combat global warming. Well, it's funny because, you know, they're like, oh, it's rained and snowed so much that we've stopped the drought measures.

I'm like, no, keep it going. Like, let's stop thinking in the now and let's get the reserves backed up. We know that we go through it. Because honestly, I think we just need to permanently change our water usage. You know, I think that's what it comes down to. Turns out. Yeah. That seems to be the case.

If you're going back to the cruise thing, cruise culture is kind of controversial. Some people hate it. Some people love it. How did you find the cruise? What were your feelings on cruise culture? I got to say, you know, there obviously as a performer on the cruise, I am biased. I get like certain perks and stuff. But I will say, you know know it is interesting when you like

the surface level is is very fun but if you think too hard it'll be wild because you're like oh man the staff is all these great working attentive people from the philippines and you're like if if all your staff is from another country that can't you know capitalism has taught us that can't be good that can't be there must be a reason but they've all chosen one yeah yeah yeah yeah that they all chosen to hire outside of the u.s uh it's like why why is this what is this can i know what you're being paid so i know whether to whether to really get in the ass anyway uh it Is one of the perks getting to drive the ship? No, they refused. As much as I kind of knocked on the captain's door. Let me do a couple donuts, please.

Come on, I want to drift the boat. It's going to burn out on the sea real quick. Yeah, they wouldn't let me in there. But, you know, the food, you know, 24-hour access to food can't get any better than that and then we that's dope then we heard there's this thing where like a lot of older people will just do a month of cruises where they would just keep doing because you know it's your room and board and your food kind of paid for it actually ends up being cheaper than like a retirement home yep yeah speaking of which i was gonna say i don't know if this is like a black thing but a lot of the older generations in my family they love a

cruise they absolutely love a cruise and miles and i were talking about this too he has a similar experience and when i talk about my love of cruises generally to most people it gets shot down they're like ah that's that's shitty but also the the two cruises i've been on i had hella white people serving me and that that felt great so yeah see i want that cruise that sounds like a great cruise yeah i mean truly it's it's it's funny that you should say that because yeah no my my family was all in on cruises and you know speaking of mountain sight more uh jakeese neil loves the cruise He got real hyped when he heard I was going on a cruise. He loves the cruise. He's big in the cruise culture too.

But I think the first cruise I went on, I was like completely sold. I was like, yes, let's do it. Let's do it. The second one, I didn't like it as much, but it was more so because I was like, I kind of viewed it in this way where I, where I thought this would be way more fun if everyone had the same vibe. Because on a cruise, you have just mixed vibes. It's family vacay, retirement home folks, young group of folks trying to get, like, turned up. So between all of that, you know, it's a very mixed bag.

But something like the Joko cruise where the whole cruise is chartered and everyone's on the same vibe it's i was like this is what i was thinking of when i said everyone needs to be the same vibe so that's a fair point you can do a themed cruise yeah i'd say go that route i like it's joke oh like the word joke and then oh yeah yeah for Jonathan Colton, the singer-songwriter. It's his crew. Cruise. His crew and Cruise. His crew Cruise. Yeah, yeah. You got it right. The Cruise Cruise. Amazing. All right. Ify, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. Amazon is being sued for not warning customers about facial recognition technology.

They had that Amazon Go store announcement where they're like, you just walk in and you get to pretend you're shoplifting white people, rich people. You get to pretend you're shoplifting for the first time and it'll be fun for you. But it's basically like cameras keep an eye on you and they like know and then they just like do the math on the back end or some shit oh so they don't have to uh have a person follow you around the entire time that you did with me oh cool the cameras do the following we've really come a long way i love yes but anyways uh new york is the only major city where it's illegal to use facial recognition technology without telling people so somebody in in New York is suing them. Which is good. I just generally like to give a nice little pat on the back anytime someone sues Amazon.

But this is an interesting story because it's about the way that they're trying to shape the world to their ends. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about yet another brand movie, man. They are coming fast and furious. We've talked about Air. We'll talk about yet another brand movie, man. They are coming fast and furious. We've talked about Air. We've talked about Blackberry. We've talked about Tetris. And now we've got that Flamin' Hot Cheetos movie, which we talked about a few years back when it first got greenlit.

It's directed by Eva Longoria. And it's a biopic of the guy who invented Flamin' Hot Cheetos, allegedly. And there's a big allegedly around this movie. But it premiered at South By, I think. Yeah, it premiered at South By and people seemed to really love it. So we are going to continue to talk about this trend where brands are the new superheroes. Brands are the new movie protagonists. We might even pitch a couple couple

more movies that we will definitely be seeing in the future on a recent episode if we pitched a lunchables movie about the invention of lunchables but we we think we have some some ideas for some that were are almost inevitable so we might as well make them good all of that plenty more or maybe just a few of those things and but before we get to any of it iffy uh we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history okay so uh you know i was looking so something from my search history this one is pretty simplistic uh everyone knows i'm an la boy. I hold it down, you know, uh, Lakers fan, uh, you know, now that I'm splitting tick, uh, season ticks with Nick Weiger and Dave Phillips from grand crew. Uh, you know, I've been multiple in game, more locked in in the season, more locked in on the games Dodgers, you know, much in the same way, you know, I'm kind of loosely paying attention. I'll show up at a game or so, But on the cruise, I made a new friend,

Mallory O'Meara, this author, and also she has a book pod, and she's reeling a hockey. And I just went to a Kings game. So that was the perfect timing of events to get me back into the hockey game. And that's the one thing I don't have. I don't have a Kings jersey. So, you know, I kind of went in and, you know, when you're buying sports jerseys are dicey, you king's jersey so you know i kind of went in and you know when you're buying sports jerseys are dicey you know like you know rest in peace to anybody who bought a kevin durant jersey you know you you never you know you don't know when they're gonna stay so you know i had to do a little research on the team see who's going and i also of course you know you don't want to you don't want to be basic like you know back in the breeze days you don't want to get a drew breeze jersey i'm a saints fan uh because you know everyone has the

drew breeze jersey so i didn't get a cut so i you know copitar even though he's been with the kings a very long time you know he's the captain everyone everyone has that jersey yeah uh you know we let uh quick go he's with the ve Golden Knights. I do remember that because we won the Stanley Cup with Quick. So I couldn't get a Quick jersey. So then I just went old school and got the classic, like, Lakers-Kings jersey with Marcel Diane, who is retired. But, you know, even though he ended his season with the rangers he has the longest stint with the kings and is in the nhl hockey hall of fame so i was like that's a safe bet get a classic you know because also didn't want to do gretzky another like overdone overused overworn you know

you want to stand out a little bit you want to stand out a little bit but you want them to have enough prestige as to where when they're gone you can wear the jersey and you still get that head nod from exactly yeah that's what's up exactly because because you know i feel like if kopitar left like he's done his time people would still be like yeah that was our guy but i just hate the buying a because you know if i wear someone if i buy the jersey of someone who's on the team now i want to wear it there you know what i like to call sports cosplay you know you definitely want to wear while they're there so you like to wear the pads and the helmet too oh yeah i definitely wear yeah and i stand by the penalty box yeah yeah and i try and jump out until security kicks me out yeah hurt your ankles a

little bit but you keep the skates on for realism yeah yeah that's interesting uh if you said jump you said jumping back into being a kings fan what was what was the pause or did you just is this the newly found thing or did you take a little break you know as an as an angeleno i've always been a fan and then i was kind of like when we won the stanley cup where we beat the rangers that was the year I was like, I'm going to get into hockey. I had the championship hat. I was like, I need to focus. I need to support the team.

But I feel like hockey comes on at an interesting time. It's mixed because if you're following basketball and football, it's easy to get lost in the sauce because one kind of leads into the other. So I fell off, but because I have this new friend who actually goes to the game and watches it, that's going to be easier for me to kind of, you know, keep it going because they're going to be going to the games and inviting me essentially. Yeah. I identify with this because as someone born and raised in the chicago area we did not get televised broadcasts of the blackhawks for a lot of the time i was growing up really and yeah for whatever reason they just didn't air the blackhawks games in my area so when that started

happening that's when the viewership started to increase. And that's when we started getting good. And like Patrick Kane came along and we, you know, we won a Stanley Cup ourselves. So I was like, you know, that was when I really started getting into hockey for that brief little bit of time. I've fallen off since then, but yeah, I can, I can identify with this for sure. Oh yeah. In terms of just the overall shape of like how the sport works, like the the playoffs, it really seems like kind of a crapshoot. And it's just like, you know, you have huge upsets that happen on like in basketball, usually like you don't have massive like swings. And it really is like I guess I could be frustrating, right? frustrating, right? That like your team is good all year and then like another team's like has the hot goalie going into the playoffs and suddenly like they, they just charged to the, but it's

also like keeps things really exciting and it is just a incredibly exciting sport to watch in person. Yes. That, that part too is, you know, everyone says that baseball is better in person than it is on TV. And I feel like it's about the same. I think the thing that people get excited about with baseball in person is just the stadium antics. Yeah. Where it's like, no hockey, which hockey is like pretty exciting to watch on screen too. But there, the energy is there. the energy's there also like the last game i went to it made me realize that i that how much of a drinking sport it is like like you know basketball is interesting because the big thing

that you see is like the kiss cam and like maybe like the like the the half court shot stuff but in hockey it's like showing people with their beers and getting them to chug it you're like oh really instead of the kiss cam yeah yeah it's like it would show someone with a beer they have to chug it and i was like oh this rocks that's fun yeah that's really funny what is something you think is overrated oh man uh you know something i think that's it's overrated is i i think i might have done this in some way. And this is just definitely, I feel like the more you come on this pod, the harder the overrated is. Because you have those built-in overrateds.

And then as you go, you're like, okay, now I'm searching from overrateds. But mine is just getting the first take. There's one thing about takes you know we all know about the internet take but i also think there's a even more nefarious thing which is people trying to be the first person to have the woke opinion uh and i hate saying it now the word woke it's been it's really devolved like we're you know we're talking about back when i was on mount zeitmore and coming on regularly how overused woke has been. And now it's become like truly a battleground.

Like there's battleground states and now we have battleground words. And woke is one of them. It's only used by Tugger Carlson at this point. Yeah. Like just, yeah. Yeah. Just the rush into having like the most conscious take on something. A lot of times you just see people fumble because they didn't wait to see the situation pan out. And this is sounding very political and it's about to get very not political in a second. When I talk about the Bayonetta voice actress debacle, which I'm guessing neither of you have heard about that or know about it.

I have not. Why would you say that about me, man? How could you think that I missed the Bayonetta voice actress debacle? But I do want to hear your take on it. I'm familiar with Bayonetta. I have not gotten into the whole culture behind the voice acting of it. Well, then the new one isn't going to have the original voice actress. And she hopped on Twitter and she was like like i had to pass on this role because they were only

offering me three thousand dollars and you know whoever you know you know whatever that actress that took the role just know you'll never be the real bayonet or whatever whatever and the person who took the role was jennifer hale who like a very prestigious voice actor, most popularly known as the voices of female Shepard in the Mass Effect series. Just the goat. And also, she's very, very like a union stand. Like, she's big about SAG, making sure video games go SAG. She's big about SAG, making sure video games go SAG. When the voice actors struck against the video game community for SAG roles, she would host these talks at her own home to tell non-union voice actors why they shouldn't break the picket line.

She's in it. So it's a rough accusation. And then, of course, it eventually comes out that she negotiated a price and they accepted it. And then she tried to negotiate higher. And they're like, well, we can't pay that. So they went somewhere else. But they're like, you know, but, you know, we'll give you a cameo. And, you know, for all that done, we'll give you $3,000. And that was the full story.

And so that comes out. we'll give you 3k and that was the full story and so that comes out and you have all these people who were like yelling and like standing on the front lines to be the first to like know what's going on instead of just being like oh damn we we had the wrong information and fucked up they would they would do these this backpedaling where it's like well it's still kind of fucked up that you know yeah and to me i was like you put yourself in that position because you wanted to be the first person who was right instead of being like, let me see the situation unfold. And I don't mean it in the way where we had video footage of black bodies laying on the street and you had conservatives being like, well, let's wait till all the facts come out because the facts was the video that we all could see. I'm saying that when one person is saying something and it's truly not, you know, you don't need to stand your ground there. You can just wait to see the response in that. Maybe you can wait that out.

So and rushing to get first, if you're wrong, maybe, maybe, maybe just say you're wrong. Yeah. Stop being afraid of being wrong. And that is a take that I think I've said before. This kind of reminds me of that, like on the conservative side, that story where like Ben Shapiro was trying to get someone on his network. And then they were like, oh, I'm mad about what I'm getting paid. And then people were like, oh, I'm mad about what I'm getting paid. And then people took sides. And then the full story came out of like that guy was getting so much money and opportunity

and he was just complaining for no reason. But then the lines had been drawn and it just kind of span out. And yeah, it's hard to have people really want to have a hot take. I think it's, you know, that instant gratification of like, look how authentic I was. But first, and then you have to be like, oh, wait, no, I didn't. I didn't mean that as soon as you are found to be wrong, which means you were never authentic. So you have to you have to really be careful and pick and choose your battles. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And if he what is something that you think is underrated? Oh, OK. You know, you know, it was coming from under for underrated it's snowboarding there's been a you know snowboarding i've been i'm huge into winter sports that's my winter sports guy look at you yeah i'm a big winter sports guy i was talking about hockey now i'm talking about snowboarding i this is my second season snowboarding i'm like completely hooked and it was one of those

things you know i grew up in la and i just thought it was so far from me, not knowing that you can just drive up to Palmdale and there's a, there's one there and big bear. But like, before I continue, I will acknowledge it is a very expensive sport to get into because it's like, you know, usually anywhere from a hundred to 150 for a lift ticket. If you don't have equipment, 50 for a rental. And, like, the gas to get up there, if you're staying up there, it's expensive. But if you can, or if you, like, you know, slowly build up your boots and helmet, you can, like, piece it together. You can make it work. It's a good workout, you know. Yes, there's been people who just get bodied, but you know, take your time, play it safe and you shouldn't get bodied unless you're the skier who I definitely

bodied coming down the mountain yesterday. I'm sorry. I apologize. I tried to stop in the snow, said you're going. And I just tackled her. And she looked so mad. And I was like, I'm so sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Sorry, sorry. Because, you know, I'm a two bills plus 80 coming at you. And this small woman just got just trucked. But she was good. She was able to get up. She wasn't happy uh but she was good she was able to get up she wasn't happy but she was good so that's that that's gonna be my underrated is it takes a little it takes a little like pushing past the because i i just learned how to ski like two years ago because my you know we had a my dad's a basketball coach and so so like during, during the winter,

it was basketball season. We didn't really like do anything other than, you know, basketball. And so like, I just learned and man, it is like when you're going down the bunny slopes as a 39 year old man, uh, like that was, uh, my kids were like going with me. But it's definitely it was definitely like worth it once I once I got the hang of it. Oh, yeah. I mean, also like the way athletes process things are so different because I have a friend who's like, you know, in the running for like NFL stuff and all that. And I invited him snowboarding goes when I'm done playing football, I will do it. Right.

He's like, I can't risk being injured. Well, that's the other thing. Yeah. When you're just learning it as an older person, the risk of injury is much, much higher. And you are, you know, like I did well. I didn't really like, I got the wind knocked out of me on one jump, but like for the most part, I'm good, but I'm still the next day.

Like, oof. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're like parts of you are sore that you didn't know you had parts there. jump but like for the most part i'm good but i'm still the next day like oof yeah yeah yeah you you're like parts of you are sore that you didn't know you had parts there yeah yes yeah i mean with i mean carrying your equipment up the up the uh mountain too when i mean i was i was younger when i the last time i skied i think i only went like three times but last time i was like in grade school but you know, getting on the lifts that we had to do sometimes, you know, the skis were attached to the bottom of your feet, but sometimes you had to carry that shit all the way up the mountain. And, uh, that wasn't fun. So it's,

it's a, it's a good like workout and I do kind of miss it. I remember having like the most fun I've ever had while also being the most exhausted I've ever been at the end of the day. Yeah. Yeah. ever had while also being the most exhausted i've ever been at the end of the day yeah yeah whoops your ass yeah i stopped yesterday because i physically had to like yeah like my thigh my like right quad basically knotted up into what felt like a ball yeah and i could not physically snowboard i had to unstrap myself and limp down the mountain and and everyone's like everything all right and it's like oh no i'm not it feels weird to be like i'm not injured i'm just tired yeah yeah just old we're just just old don't worry about me yeah yeah and you're a you're a very one of the more fit people i know so i mean yeah it's gonna it's gonna ass out there. Yeah. But we're worth a try. Definitely. It's definitely fun.

All right. Let's talk about Amazon. They're being sued. Always just a happy little bit of news. Who knows if it's going to go anywhere, but they're being sued in New York in particular for having facial recognition, just loosing facial recognition technology onto their consumer base without really checking with the consumers. And that is against the law only in New York City. That's the only city where that's that's why that's the only. Yes, that's people might want to know about this.

Yeah. What is this Europe? We got to tell people stuff. Come on. But yeah, I mean, the whole idea is to just walk out technology is what they're calling it. They put up signs informing people more than a year after the law went into effect. But it's like using biometrics and cameras to basically track people, like recognize them when they walk in, and then they can walk out with the stuff

and you have paid for it. Essentially, they'll just like charge your account. And the whole idea here is that it's to reduce, they call human interactions like friction. Like their goal is to completely turn us into autonomous consumption machines. And there's no good way to monetize like human interaction. And in fact, it makes the purchase the purchases move slower.

So they're just trying to design a Skinner box maze that is like lonelier and more focused on the efficiency of like getting the thing you want and leaving, which in the moment feels good. Like, like you, you want to be able to skip the line in the moment. Right. But at the same time, like, I just feel like we're building towards, like, we're seeing, you know, people's responses on like metrics of loneliness. And, you know, we're seeing things like deaths of despair go through the roof as we get more and more just like funneled into these little individualized consumption boxes where we're like, OK. And then I like use my phone to order the food. It gets dropped off on my porch. And then I go into the store and don't talk to anyone. I just, you know, keep, keep my eyes in front of me, get the stuff I want and then walk out.

And like that, that's the old, that's their ultimate goal here. i think it's kind of in line with what our instincts tell us we want in the moment but what overall is probably going to be bad for us yeah i think it's the same concept as like the checkout lines where there's a primary like directive for it and then there's a secondary i think layer to it where they'll use it to victimize themselves to be like, we tried to make it more convenient for you guys, but you just keep like, you know, stealing from us because we made it too easy to steal from us and we trusted you. And I just I don't like how they use this technology as a way to claim it's easier for us. And then I feel like there's a twofold reason for doing it. It might seem good in the short term for them, but then they can also use these frictionless interactions as a way to see like, well, our customers are taking advantage of us somehow. So let's tighten the belt or like, you know, let's let's monitor them even more.

And it's they're overreaching. They always have been. But it's getting like really scary and invasive too yeah yeah and i think it doesn't help that they hit it you know like that's the thing where i it doesn't garner trust when your first instinct was to not tell anyone about it because what's the use like what i think you're right like there is a lot of reason to have it. And if they were like, oh, the way that this technology works is we, you know, we're able to track your face and da-da-da-da, you know, you would know. But you inherently know that people are able to do the mental math to be like, oh, but to do that. yeah that's the thing and they're still denying it they're like no we're not using facial recognition technology only shoppers who choose to enroll in amazon one and choose to be identified by hovering their palm over the amazon one device have their palm biometric data securely collected

and these individuals are provided the appropriate privacy just i think that's how it is in most places but i know they're experimenting with the facial recognition shit like they've had like test cases where people are like i just walked in and walked out with the shit and they were they charged me so yeah and also it's the thing where it's like you can say that you're not but it's like the facial you're saying that in fact the facial recognition software is there so it's not like that automatically turns off if I don't sign up for your doohickey app. It's not like that my face isn't being tracked because for that to work, my face has to be tracked. Like not in the sense that you're trying to track me, but you need to track me to discern me from the ones who did sign up. So in some way, shape or form,

that would mean that you have my face in your database. And we've also seen time and time again how easy it is for that to immediately turn into, oh, and then also the cops are now able to subpoena this from people. Yes, that's the truly scary part. And they're not going to tell you that they're doing that either. part and they're not going to tell you that they're doing that either and it reminds me of like that that james dolan story about him monitoring people who came into the venues he owned with facial recognition technology and we're going to see this story a lot more like i'm sure there's going to be a story about elon musk using you know biometric scanners to monitor his ex

girlfriends or something like that like it's this is gonna come up a lot don't get me started i have uh i do own a tesla model y and what's wild about that and i and i didn't even know but for the longest you know from the inception of this car they've put a cabin camera where like it's it's like right where your rear view mirror would be but there's a small circle and there's been a cabin camera there they don't i didn't know it isn't overtly anywhere and i would know because i when i was waiting for the car and i was excited i was looking at all the features and stuff and it wasn't until they just did like oh to update for the self-driving feature um no first they were like in this update we are you you can give us permission to upload the cabin the cabin camera

and i was like cabin camera and i look up and i was like oh there's been a camera in my car this whole time that looks in and sees me driving and then they added the like self-driving which like it's self-driving is is such a headache because like i get all sides of it right where it's like you got the people who aren't self-driving and they and they they don't want to be on the road with these with essentially a beta experiment with this right right but then so they're trying to cover their tracks while they're trying to cover their tracks while they're like well with self-driving you have to have hands on the wheel looking at the road and all that it was like well then why am i using this right obviously if i want self-driving it so i can do other things other than driving like no one wants to if my hands

are on the wheels and here's there why am i I just not driving? Like that's just drive you like you are self-driving. Sure. But I'm, I'm driving. Obviously I want to like answer emails and all that stuff. And now, and now they have the cabin camera so that if you're not looking at the road, if you're not facing forward, it's going to be like, Hey, you're not looking at the road. And after it warns you a couple of times, it'll shut it off like hey you're not looking at the road and after it warns you a couple times it'll shut it off and then you can't use it and then if it shuts off like that

five times you get it revoked which also is going to put it in iffy territory because for people like me who paid for the self-driving where it's like you pay 10 grand for this extra feature that now can be ripped for you if you don't follow these rules mind you new rules that have just been implemented like they added so i'm like this this this feels like if the territory but i'm sure when you signed up for the car there was something that says like you know you have to follow these rules no matter future future rules and bullshit yeah and iffy territory is what you call your house. Yeah. Yeah. You're also your debut album. data testing, passing tests, going to the Department of Transportation, getting it vetted, but everything is moving at light speed and there's just so much issue.

But honestly, like everyone's like, I don't want to be on the road with a Tesla. I was like, actually, I think I want more people auto driving because y'all can't drive. Like everyone's like, I don't want to be on the road. It's like, no, you can't drive. I've seen seen you i've been on the road with you you cannot drive you can blame the tesla all you want but before there was teslas on the road you were still driving bad and now you know you have something to blame instead of being like no i i've saw i've saw two cars flipped over in the past two days and none of them were teslas y'all can't drive stop trying to blame like look i'm not elon sucks i'm not the tesla drivers we drive bad too but you

drive it's not them or us we all driving bad out here so let's get the technology that lets us all just get traveled around like trains so we not fucking up our day but causing an accident on the 405 that's going to make a 30-minute trip three hours yeah elon musk is allowed to watch your cabin camera footage and jerk off i think that's in the i think about that often because i every time i'm mad at him i do look at the camera and say fuck you which is daily uh so you know i i wonder so you know I wonder because you know all of the stuff is over the air updates so like

they're like I do wonder if there's just one he is the type of person to be so petty that like my car won't start yeah you said something mean about me on Twitter yes I'm sure you pay some assistant to aggregate all

of the people who said some shit about him and then fucks with their teslas if they bought one yeah he's got too much power i mean james dolan like picked some person who insulted him years before was at a rockets show and with her kids and like was forcibly like removed from the premises and had to like wait outside while her kids were like finishing the show because of facial recognition technology so he said he didn't do it so this is another example of people like doing this and being like no no no not me yeah just more and more like brittle billionaire egos like with more and more powerful technology is going probably not a good path to be on but but we'll see because it's coming yeah i know good luck to us i mean with the self-driving shit like six years ago they released a viral video where a car

like drives a long distance and they like did the whole thing and we're like there was a person in the driver's seat purely for legal reasons they didn't touch it and then like it turns out we just found out this year they were lying about that they had like pre-programmed the entire route like it was not what they were claiming it to be. But yeah, they're just out in front of it. Like, that's the thing is like, if they were doing things the way that you were describing, where it's like, they get the Department of Transportation on board, the Department of Transportation was not basically just scared of every industry and every billionaire and actually like did their job of like protecting people and you know overseeing train monopolies and shit like we might be in okay shape but like

yeah i don't know with with things the way they are i just feel like they're they're going to be like accidents i don't know if they'll be at the same rate as like the accidents people will be causing on their own but then there will be like okay there's a beta update to to address that and it'll just be very like haphazard yeah this is something unnerving about the whole thing yeah and i'm excited to see where the counter culture go like the counter movement comes for that because i've seen a few things where there's like this fashion movement of certain garments like hoodies or whatever that like scramble facial recognition technology and things like that and i find that fascinating there's going to be two sides of the coin here and they're going to spread farther and farther out from each other yeah it looks cool i love it in theory but i feel like time and again in america we keep being like man what's the art

what's the response to trump gonna be what's gonna and it's like people are just too busy working so that they can have health care to like unless things like shut down with the pandemic like that people like don't have the time to scramble together a resistance yeah so i So, I mean, but yeah, it would be dope if like everybody got together and said, fuck the billionaires. And I think there are cool examples of that that we'll highlight in days and years to come, for sure. All right.

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We've been highlighting, you know, the Air Jordan origin stories coming out. There was a BlackBerry origin story trailer that dropped earlier last week that actually looked fun. People seem like on board with this Tetris one. It's, you know, a very cool story. So like that, this seems to be not just a couple isolated incidents, but like, you know, we, we've been saying like, it makes sense that brands would be the new movie protagonists. They're like what we're going to have instead of superhero movies because, or, you know, what we have instead of like the Royals that Shakespeare wrote about, we have brands because brands actually, corporations are the thing that makes all the decisions that rule us, which is why like succession is popular. It's like these are the things that control our lives. They're American dynasties. Yes.

And so with all of that said, news of the latest one. We had heard that this was in the works early on, but they actually just premiered the Flamin' Hot Cheetos origin story at South by Southwest. And people seem to be on board. People are like, it's actually really fun, y'all. Yeah. Sorry. Which is also what I'm hearing about air and what I'm hearing about the Blackberry movie and the Tetris movie is like that. Sorry, this is just who we are. Unfortunately, this is what a good movie is like that sorry this is just who we are unfortunately like this is the this is what a good

movie is now and yeah you know i liked the social network i mean i think i think it makes sense you know we are this uh we we're we're so consumed by brands now right because we're like locked in on the on the internet and i think some good can come from uh from movies like this like air and so where you kind of dehumanize the the brand where you're like no this is a an idea made up of people and these are the people behind it because there is this weirdness when you see brands on social media and like the brand managers running the account and doing memes that it gives these brands a personality a person yeah and i feel like movies like these can actually work against that hopefully and be like nope this is a company and this is the people behind it and i think social network is a great idea because i feel like that movie was the downfall of the like making you know mark zuckerberg seem cool like i feel like that movie was the downfall of the like making you know mark

zuckerberg seem cool like i feel like that once that movie came out people were like oh he is kind of a dick and he has it made him seem more charismatic than he really is because jesse eisenberg is like an actor who's very charismatic on screen but it also was like yeah but like what this dude decided ultimately to do was big and vast and fucked up, like real fucked up and not, you know, not something that he probably wanted to approve. Like that's, you know, I think best case scenario, it gives us more insights like that. Worst case scenario, though, we're like getting to see these people making corporate decisions and like they're being like made into heroes. Well, like the things that make those corporate decisions possible is like, you know, grinding lower paid workers to, you know, and just, you know, people being threatened with starvation and lack of health care.

Yeah. I mean mean work around the clock yeah and i'm actually here for this like we're you alluded to this earlier jack about there's like a big allegedly caveat with the origin story about the full truthfulness of it or not and actually we should just talk about that before i give my point about sure yeah so So this movie, the Flamin' Hot Cheetos movie, is the story of a somebody who I think was like framed as a custodian in the original origin story who worked for Frito-Lay and was just like a big fan of their work and was also, you know, a tinkinkerer had a little shed in his backyard so richard montanez is is his name and he basically tells the story that he you know worked for frito-lay in like a custodial capacity or was like you know a level worker. I think it was first pitched as like he was a custodian and then tinkered with these flavors, like pudding, elote, like Mexican, you know, the Mexican street food of elote of like grilled corn with lime and chili. And he was like, what if we put those spices on Cheetos? Like what? Like these would be good.

on cheetos like what like these would be good and then like it it was so good that he then like brought it to the frito-lay ceo at the time roger enrico and he was like this is brilliant and flaming hot cheetos was born except for the fact that frito-lay claims like none of that is true and i i still don't know like where i fall on this like somebody i want to see somebody do like a real deep dive into yeah what part of it is true because obviously like frito-lay is not going to want to be overshadowed or also like legally liable to like pay this person more than what they have already paid. So they're like, you know, actually it was,

it was being test marketed already when he claims to have come up with this idea. And just like real, like their story seems to want it both ways. They're like, we came up with this idea and it's a very boring story of like test kitchens and marketing and, and none of his thing is true but we love him

and we're here to celebrate richard and he contributed in some way but not a way that's legally liable to us like yeah i i uh i'm actually here for this like because you know how many examples of whitewashing do we have where we find out the person who really invented something was from a marginalized community while some landowning white man claimed all the credit? So so and and also to their credit, they're even willing to I guess they added in lines where they poke fun, like narrative lines where they poke fun at this, maybe not being all the way true necessarily, which is much more than my history books ever did so um i feel like you know this is a good like you know if sure fictionalize more uh origin stories of companies or take all the white people out of it put more black and brown people and people of color in there people from marginalized communities and say they did it and i don't care if it's a lie i like the representation it's more than what we've had before so yeah yeah i like seeing this yeah no i i yeah i'm always uh wary of companies being like

no that's not true we were doing the test kitchen i'm like okay who was the head chef who was it because it was a white person then his story still stands because the white person didn't like pull that from his culture you know right where where it's like, it's like, cool. Show us the receipts because, you know, usually that's how they respond. It was competing with the white guy's idea of mayonnaise Cheetos. Yeah. Instead, they're like, take my word for it, please. How about we dunk the Cheetos in milk?

Take my word for it, please. How about we dunk the Cheetos in milk? I'm just a little worried that these Cheetos are going to be too spicy and they're going to cause people to masturbate. That's one. So in a moment, we'll get to it. Yeah, because that's where Corn Flakes came from, was them being like, we need to create a food so bland that it will make kids stop jerking on yeah but yeah it's a it's a mess but like this is apparently a messy fun movie that like relishes in certain exaggerations it's less the founder and more like it's got some adaptation like vibes to it where you don't know really what to believe but it's it's a little bit fun and i'm i'm i'm happy with that yeah this seems like a a fun way to

to approach that and apparently ava longoria doing uh doing some pretty good work and her directorial debut so that's that's exciting yeah and and these movies can be fun we already pointed out like you know the mighty ducks i had fun with that when i was a child that's kind of you know it's more about like team and stuff but there's branding all over that shit oh yeah yeah mighty ducks angels in the outfield of course the true story behind uh the formation of the california angels baseball team but i mean like there is a pretty good track record with these movies, like Moneyball. I would put in this category because it's like telling the purported true

story behind like the Oakland A's like, like relevance. They didn't even win anything, but they were like relevant for a period of time when they had a very low payroll social network. Ford versus Ferrari was, I think the most recent example of this that was like oscar nominated yeah the founder steve jobs all the steve jobs movies like the that the

genre of steve jobs movies yeah becoming yeah its own thing so that leads me to the question of like we already pitched lunchables like the lunchables story told from the perspective of because that was like Oscar Mayer was like, nobody wants to eat hot dogs and bologna anymore. What do we do? And then that invented Lunchables and became it became like one of the most profitable thing in foods, but also gave a bunch of people horrible health issues because it's one of the least healthy foods ever pawned off like sold to children but i i could definitely see like i'm kind of surprised that i haven't already heard about a coca-cola origin story movie me too like that they must just be being very precious with that but the origin story of coca-cola is like has to be the holy grail of these movies because it was invented by a heroin or like morphine addict who like veteran of the civil war where everybody came out of that war addicted to morphine because they were all you know shot up and in so much pain i can i can imagine maybe coca-cola doesn't want to be associated

with the breaking bad yeah type character but i think they should poke fun at this i would have so much respect for them if they did it yeah yeah and like so at that time one of the treatments for morphine addiction was cocaine they're like try this this healthy. And that's where he found out about cocaine and how he started putting it in his beverage and just, you know, the immediate out of control popularity of Coca-Cola because it had cocaine in it. And people were like, give me a, give me a, I think they would call it a dope at the time. And it would be like three three three times stronger than it was meant to be they would just like put extra extra syrup in it and people would just run around high out of their mind it's the most american thing that's ever happened like the whole pulling yourself up from your bootstraps

capitalism drug-induced mania you gotta you gotta love it yeah somebody like this might need to be its own like long running hbo series or something because there's there's a lot of story there absolutely and then elon musk of course like the elon musk movies probably you know 15 20 years from now are going to be coming 2024 relentlessly coming yeah yes he's shopping it around right now i also in on a serious note i did uh we i pitched the uh patagonia movie at the beginning of the record session just because like that guy has an interesting legacy i'm not fully uh immersed in everything that happened there i just know some people in the area that he took over in chile he bought a lot of property with the intention of

preserving this area and making it pristine. And, you know, the guy who owned it was, you know, this rich white guy who was buying land in a country with indigenous folks who were skeptical of him. And there's a lot of stuff there. There's environmentalism, there's activism, there's capitalism, there's adventure because that guy was going all around i keep saying that guy because i don't know his name but um you know he was climbing mountains he was kayaking there's a whole like fantastical like yellowstone type of movie in there somewhere yeah and he left the company to the employees i thought or at least yeah talking about doing that and then he died

tragically while he was, like, I think he was kayaking on a river and drowned or something. But yeah, it was a fascinating story there. Yeah. How about you, Ify? Any, like, pitches for brands? I mean, there's got to be some good, like, the invention of... I want the Mountain Dew story.

Oh, yeah. There you go. We missed it. From Mountain Ale to X Games, games you know and it'll be like it'll be like a like a like a triple x action extreme sports you know from moonshine to kickflips i love that exactly like the moonshiners i mean that is actually the origin of nascar is true like people running moonshine around in those cars that looked like that and evading the police so i mean nascar and mountain dew could have a great i'd watch both of those yeah yeah oh hell yeah that sounds amazing green light at hollywood take our idea there you go you know And also, this is a very specific, an extremely specific point of hitting this up.

But there was a thing where there was this company called Chatters in Utah. And it was basically a bootleg In-N-Out. Because at the time, In-N and out only was in california and i think las vegas those were the like it was it was being like we're a california restaurant and so they made the bootleg chatters and in and out sued them and i think they tried to have the defense of like well in and out only exists in california and so in and out basically made an in and out in utah after that case and and now that there's one in and out that's in utah because of this chatters because it's a situation so it's like instead of the founder it's like the origin story of mcdowell's

yeah exactly if you build it they would come type b that sounds incredible and utah is fascinating like just all the all the weird culture that that pops up there floating soda shops around food too yeah yeah amazing well if he as always truly a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist where can people find you follow you all that good stuff you can find me if you want to weigh on twitter and instagram and that's where you'll be locked in on all the things i'm up to yeah yeah and is there a tweet or work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. I have it loaded up right there.

I'll describe it for the listener at home, which is going to be interesting if you're not familiar with the game, but it's a picture of a My Alert from the Fallout series, which are these large kind of crab humanoid things. And the tweet just says, they be eating shit like this in Louisiana.

And the first time i saw it i laughed for 30 minutes straight and then you keep laughing as you scroll down the replies and there's a bunch of louisianans being like yeah and like like not even deflecting not denying the accusations they're like yes we would fry that shit up i yeah man just grab it out of the the craw the craw dads the uh yeah the little mud things they yeah crawl they pull some wild looking bug looking shit out of the mud and make it delicious oh yeah i sent it to my sister just to see you know because mom's side off new or, you know, we raised on that type beat. And she said, LMAO, that little thing-a-lang be the best part too. Like they've already figured out the parts that would taste good.

Like that's how far people in Louisiana are deep in the shellfish and seafood they they they're like we know what parts of this is going to be good yeah that's amazing justin where can people find you is there a work of media you've been enjoying you can find me at j con the smith on instagram and instagram only that's j-c-o-n-t-h-E-S-M-I-T-H. And I don't really have that much content that I follow, but I do like this photographer out of New York who I'm sure many of the site gang is already following because he's literally got a million followers. He goes by New York Nico online on Instagram. He's just got a lot of wholesome, just slice of life takes from New York where he's just aiming his camera at interesting people. He calls himself the unofficial talent scout of New York City.

Just vignettes of beautiful people showing themselves to you and sharing their experience. So you can find New York Nico on Instagram. All right. can find uh new york nico on instagram all right uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien uh tweet i've been enjoying well first of all uh emma tolkien tweeted mark strong is stanley tucci's wario i did i have been going through my life thinking mark strong was stanley tucci like i was just like there goes Tucci again in another. Oh, you know what? Yeah.

I didn't know this guy by name, but yeah, I can see it. Yeah. I thought that was, they were the same. They just have the shape of the bald head, the glasses. The chin shape. Yeah. It's all too close. It's all there.

Yeah. And then Bakun on Twitter tweeted a picture of the part in Man of Steel 2013, 10-year-old movie. But I'll make this observation. I'll never get tired of people pointing this out. Kevin Costner plays Clark Kent's dad. And it is, I believe, the midpoint of the movie, he just gets like devoured by a tornado that Superman like clearly could have saved him from if he was like willing to use his superpowers, but like doesn't because he wants to like stay in the closet as a superhero

or like that's his dad's theory because his dad's like, there's a tornado that's about to just like swallow him whole. Yeah. Doesn't he stop him? He stops, he puts up his hand and's like, there's a tornado that's about to just like swallow him whole. Yeah, doesn't he stop him? He stops. He puts up his hand and is like, and so Beckman tweeted a screencap of that and said, Clark, no, I deserve the cold embrace of the grave. Use your heightened senses to stand there and listen to debris shred my body.

Did you hear that one, son? That was a fence post. It just went clear through my stomach. And yeah. And, yeah. Oh, God. Gotta love superhero movies. Got to love them. Well, soon enough, they will be replaced by...

Branding. The invention of Cool Ranch Doritos movies. Hell yeah. Multiple. They'll have multiple of those. It'll be like Armageddon and Deep Impact. One for each flavor. Yeah.

Multiple Cool Ranch origin story movies coming out in the same month. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. And super producer, Justin Conner, what is a song that you think people might enjoy? I think I only have a few more times to recommend tracks, as we have alluded to.

Miles may pop his head up here one of these coming weeks. We don't know. So I'm not going to be here for Wednesday's recording either. So I kind of want to make these last few songs count. So this is one of my favorite songs I used to play when I was DJing a lot. And this song is an Italian trap song

that I believe is about receiving toppy, as the kids might say. You read it through Google Translate to get the... It's like, okay. I have a friend who's sicilian and heard the lyrics and she was like what is that and so uh you know it's

about getting the old the old moist mouth i think but uh i don't speak italian so i'm not sure but anyone worse than toppy it is it is i had to do it um anyone in the zeitgang who does speak italian please give me a rundown of what this guy is saying because it sounds freaky. Also, if you have a sound system, I highly suggest calibrating everything to where it needs to be and letting this shit bang because it has a low deep end. But this is Supercalifrigida by The Clerk and Mudimbi, and you can find that song in the footnotes. Footnotes. The Daily Zeitgang is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for

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