The Daily Zeitgeist - Pittsburgh Trendquins 8/9: Serena Williams, Civil War, Fred Savage, Lamont Dozier, NBA, Catholicism

Episode Date: August 9, 2022

In this edition of Pittsburgh Trendquins, Jack and Miles discuss Serena Williams announcing her retirement, a post-Trump Raid Boogaloo Boi  check-in, Fred Savage getting booted from the new 'Wonder Y...ears' set for "erratic behavior", the passing of Lamont Dozier, NBA news, and "New Yorks' Hottest Club" being the Catholic church?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:51 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Pittsburgh Trend Gwins. I had a tough time with that. Who's that? Mario Lemieux over there? That's right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not seeing too well. Is that Pavel Bure over there?
Starting point is 00:02:18 Oh, shit. I am Jack. That is Miles. I am recording live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Wait, how will Braden play for the Penguins? I don't know, man. It's plenty. I'm just going back into my old hockey mind and I'm like, no. Yager. Yager, yeah. Sidney Crosby.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Those are the great Penguins. Anyways, let's stay on the sports tip and talk about Serena Williams because she has announced that she's most likely going to retire after the US Open, bringing to an end the greatest
Starting point is 00:02:56 sports career in the history of American sports. 23 Grand Slam singles titles. The most in the open era. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I'd say that.
Starting point is 00:03:11 73 singles titles, too. Pretty good record. Yeah, I think one of the most dominant athletes of my time witnessing it. Just like overall, mover and shaker. Always doing what's right, doing what's best. I hope she has a wonderful career in retirement, just laying down, relaxing. Maxing all cool
Starting point is 00:03:32 and all playing some b-ball outside of school. Yeah, win a couple of guys who are up to no good. Hopefully that part doesn't happen. Well, if she got in one little fight, the people who are up to no good would get scared. Yes, that's true. And then she would be like, now you must leave Bel Air. And they're like, okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:49 By the way, you are hearing a landline. That is not your imagination. I'm recording this from my in-laws. They still possess a landline that is very active. So just, you know, we're not going to edit it out. No. You're just gonna we're keeping it you uh remember days gone by when landlines were a thing but i think what's a good thing
Starting point is 00:04:10 about this retirement announcement is the way she described it because she just describes it as like i will evolve away from tennis hell yeah that's like some fucking like this is my final form like serena williams the dominant athlete and like mover and shaker was one dimension i am now the lord of you're all reality i'm like okay yeah like that appropriately dr manhattan-esque like you know just like yeah that's all she's been on the whole time right i'm gonna be dr manhattan fuck this i'm gonna go live on a different planet i'll be like uh-huh right yeah i mean that bores me yeah um damn they're persistent as well uh civil war is trending we're putting that number two yeah because civil war is always trending let's be honest i mean to be honest the civil war war conservatives especially i think have been at war since the Civil Rights Act,
Starting point is 00:05:06 since the battle for civil rights in the 60s. And they're like, this is a war and we'll always be at war. But ever since the Trump raid occurred, the spike in civil war talk on all the Telegram and Twitter and shit like that has gone up. I think a lot of MAGA people look in horror as they see that the feds can knock on your door sometimes, even Donald Trump's, although they did it when he was not there.
Starting point is 00:05:34 They, they did that very specifically. Yeah. The consequences of actions are, are something that is seems, seems like they're not willing to admit. We'll dig into it more on tomorrow's episode. Yeah, it's worth noting for anybody who's like,
Starting point is 00:05:51 when they eventually get power again, they're going to go all in on this thing where it's like, anyone who tries to say what we're doing is wrong is the enemy and will go to jail. And I don't care if we have to get rid of the fbi the army whatever i mean on our way there they're already laying the groundwork to like kill us like they're they're doing the groomer shit like you know the most extreme language that you could possibly have a blood libel if you vote for biden you are a groomer. So it's not great. They're quick to be very upset. I want to read one tweet from Dan McCoy, who tweeted Scott Adams, one of our favorite right
Starting point is 00:06:36 wing people. Yeah, he tweeted, I will allow my government 48 hours to explain itself. And then Dan McCoy wrote, and then I will continue allowing successive periods of 48 hours indefinitely because I'm just the incel who writes Gilbert. But that's what I'm hoping this, all this. Well, it's definitely,
Starting point is 00:06:57 it's activated a, like a group. Can we speak to the manager moment? I feel like everybody is trying to speak to them. Like their take is very similar. Like, I don't know where they get off. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Like what? Where they get off doing this. Okay. But yeah, I think this is going to be very probably chaotic few weeks, depending on what goes down. But it's, it's really nice to see the people who out themselves as being scumbags who like suddenly like yeah i think an fbi are doing uh raising
Starting point is 00:07:28 stuff is bad you're like oh really andrew cuomo andrew cuomo please have was it chris or andrew i think andrew the disgraced governor okay he's coming back he's coming back as a heel like the the latter form of hulk hogan i mean you know strange bedfellows you know right when it's like yeah the don't investigate me crew comes out in full force uh speaking of the don't investigate me crew uh fred savage has been booted from the wonder years reboot for what what's being described as erratic behavior? Yeah. This apparently is like a thing that people have complained about his behavior, not necessarily that it would be predatory. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:11 It seems like in this Hollywood Reporter article, it's like there's been a few shows where people have raised issues about him on set and not being professional. They said this one alleged erratic behavior was, I guess, stems from proximity to a young woman on set and it led to six women on the crew to report savage to hr which resulted in a swift investigation quote to their credit i was contacted with that and within hours one woman tells the hollywood reporter an investigation started immediately and he was barred from set um so is he in that show or is that is he just like a
Starting point is 00:08:47 consultant i don't know i think he's directing and was the showrunner that's right he his second career was as a like tv show director yeah um so that's that's what that's what's going on there and i was like i had no idea there was a fucking wonder years reboot oh wait wasn't this one like the one where it like was like this time we're talking about not white people yeah yeah yeah yeah that's it was it was a very popular bus ad in my part of los angeles so oh was it i was aware of it yeah i think did it look like it looked like a black family uh just together the wonder years yeah oh i didn't even see that oh look at this i see this ad now yeah yeah yeah but it was also they did a bad job of like signaling like what time period it was taking place in i think or at least in my memory i was
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Starting point is 00:13:31 but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you. No worries. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Lamont Dozier is trending. Yeah. Yeah. That's I mean, if anybody who has listened to, I i don't know any music ever in america you've probably heard a track from like the legendary songwriting trio of holland dozer holland these people are responsible for some of the greatest songs like of all time they were like just cranking out hits for motown like i don't know have you heard a song baby love or come see about me or how sweet it is to be loved by you heat wave uh nowhere to run uh like honestly there's like you can go on and on and on
Starting point is 00:14:34 um you keep me hanging on set me free why don't you babe damn they they have constant hits um and yeah i think it's just yeah sad time for for music lovers uh but yeah my god like if they ever did like a versus like with anyone like they would just fucking clean the fuck up yeah um i've heard of all those songs and yet i uh before we uh during the break asked if it was pronounced like hosier uh yeah guys things take me to church so uh that's where i'm at um but you know their work you know their work uh ben simmons is trending uh this is this feels like people trying to kick the net when they're down a little bit um why this is so in nba news we probably won't be talking about on our nba podcast because i don't think i just don't think we don't like to put we don't like to wildly speculate.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Yeah, but this is a so a couple days back, Kevin Durant, or maybe it was just yesterday. It came out that Kevin Durant, like everybody was like, yeah, he demanded a trade, but then they couldn't make it happen. So he'll be on the Nets next year. And then it came out that Kevin Durant was demanding it was either him on the Nets next year or Steve Nash and their GM and not both. So
Starting point is 00:15:55 very Civil War-esque. And then the owner came out and said he backs the coach and the GM, so they seem to be at an impasse. This is bad news for the Nets because Kevin Durant is maybe the
Starting point is 00:16:12 best scorer in the history of basketball. Anyways, as this is brewing, Rick Buecher, who is kind of an old school NBA reporter, an NBA reporter who broke news in the pre-Woj Bomb era. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:27 He came out and said that there was a group chat with Nets teammates in the lead up to game four of the playoffs, which ultimately eliminated the Nets. And according to Rick Buecher, they asked Ben Simmons, hey, are you planning to play in game four and not only did
Starting point is 00:16:47 ben simmons not respond to that question he left the group chat uh and that like it's almost when i first read it i was like that is a a fake story written by ben simmons haters because that is just like too perfectly exactly what they want to be true about ghosted even the group chat um but then shams who is like new school woj bomb era like you know nba news source came through and was like, that story is fake. So there is a generational showdown happening between NBA reporters on this nugget. But Ben Simmons is like one of the top trending things on Twitter because people don't like him. People love to hate on him.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah, they love to hate. I really feel like, man, I hope you can figure it out and find your joy again on the court because it's not it's not fun to watch people like struggle like that whether it's like because of their own doing or just the environment they're in but like it's wild to just see how quickly you know situations can change for people that one that one dunk I mean it wasn't just the one dunk it was a a lot of things, but he decided not to dunk it when he had a wide open dunk because he was
Starting point is 00:18:08 so up in his own head. LeBron had that one playoffs where he was up in his own head, and then he came back and became the second best player of all time. That's like the next evolution for sports fans
Starting point is 00:18:24 that we have to make is to understand that despite the superhuman nature of their athletic ability they still they still operate in a human body and mind like everybody else and like this expectation of like well they can do all this other cool shit why can't they like ignore a bunch of people constantly being toxic towards them i know it's just hard and like and i get they like ignore a bunch of people constantly being toxic towards them? I know it's just hard. And like,
Starting point is 00:18:48 and I get it. Like, that's kind of why a lot of people love sports for the idea that these people are superhuman. But I think part of that is like also combining the humanity of it all too. And being like, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:58 that's tough, but you know, it's a pride. It's all about pride. So it's, it's hard to be a understanding when you're like, I need to win through you. Right. Think about the LeBron. I think it's a pride it's all about pride so it's hard to be uh understanding when you're like i need to win through you right think about the lebron i think it's like just a clip that's been going viral more lately but it's when he had just like torched the celdics in game six and
Starting point is 00:19:19 uh someone threw a beer on him as he was entering the locker room tunnel. And like, you just see this moment where he just like kind of looks up and then smiles to himself. And like, that was at the point where it was like, is, is LeBron going to, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:34 do it? Is he, uh, capable of like carrying a team to a championship? Like that, that is rare. Right. And I will now start referring to the different stages of my life and
Starting point is 00:19:48 career as evolutions because i like that i've done it twice and because you're now a salamander yes um finally catholicism is trending when is it not folks bring it home father oh my god let's bless the sacrament of a hot take right now uh because everyone on twitter is talking about this new york times op-ed that says new york this sounds like a fucking sketch it's stefan it's new york's hottest club is the catholic church this is not ironic i'll read the first few sentences as senior churchmen seek to make catholicism palatable to modernity members of a small but significant scene are turning to the ancient faith in defiance of liberal pieties the scene is often associated
Starting point is 00:20:36 with quote dimes square a downtown manhattan neighborhood popular with pandemic weary generation z or zoomer crowd but it has spread across a network of podcasts and upstart publications. Its sensibility is more transgressive than progressive. Many of its denizens profess to be apolitical. Let me guess. I can already know if you're riding hard for Catholicism, you're probably going to land on one end of the political spectrum.
Starting point is 00:21:00 It's pretty much guaranteed. But I guess it is the hottest new club, and I don't know if they mean to say yeah i think a lot of this is being painted as like a lot of young people they're they're they're pushing back against the hegemony of progressivism as they feel it and are flocking to the safe harbors of catholicism i mean the one of the co-hosts of Red Scare, which started out, I think, as a left-leaning podcast. The one who is Greg's love interest from Succession. She is part of this.
Starting point is 00:21:34 But it's not even clear in the article if she's talking about Catholicism or defending this idea of converting to Catholicism. It's all done at a distance. She's like, I'm Catholic the way Andy Warhol is Catholic, which I didn't even know if Andy Warhol was Catholic. It's also fun that... If you want to do a fun opinion piece on a niche, like edgelord group that is faking interest in Catholicism
Starting point is 00:22:04 because it's just so outdated that it like comes around to being interesting again it's like the last thing anyone would expect you to do like this is also where stories about the police being you know authoritarian and damaging to the future of our country also go in in the opinion section of the new york times like if it's anything outside of that like dogmatic neoliberal take like it has to go in the opinion section so yeah well and at the end of the piece too they're like well only time will tell what happens right because catholicism ain't chill so we'll see how many like they even positive like we'll see how many at the end it says uh it'll be hard to view the
Starting point is 00:22:52 rosary as a fashion state over time these developments will sort the converts from the larpers right yeah we'll see i mean you know i knew a lot of kids who grew up that way and they're like yeah yeah yeah i'm off that. Yeah. That was a little wild for me as a kid. That's, I think that most people who grew up Catholic that I know. I don't know too many. I guess I know some who are still into it, like almost apologetically. I feel like the people I know have almost like transitioned away from Catholicism to like more sort of Protestant, like just feel good Christ stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:38 You know, like they're like, yeah, we're trying to go to this like weird church where it's like a lot of fun performances and like mega church shit. But I don't know. Whatever. Do your thing. Just don't think that you can make everybody believe what you do. Okay. Okay. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Tuesday, August 9th. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Talk to you tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Bye. Bye. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:25:46 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.

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