The Daily Zeitgeist - Pizza My Heart, US Tourism On Fire (The Bad Way) 08.07.25

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

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My wife has celiacs and, like, they have a gluten-free pizza at this Mancos and Manco's place, and they don't cut it because they put, like, one of those plastic pizza wheels, like, in the box with the gluten-free pizza. And part of me is, it is funny that they just don't trust themselves to not contaminate, like, the pizza. They're like, we bought this, like, here's a utensil. That's not easy to find. Like, it's not like you can, you know, it's a fork or a knife. Yeah. Yeah. They do it so you can cut it yourself.

It's like a Fisher's Price like pizza cutter. Does it work? My first pizza cutter. It's not. How many passes? I think I developed arthritis in my wrist from trying to cut the thing because, or if I already had it, I made it worse. Trying to cut with it is like trying to write with a pen that's out of ink.

You're just like going over and over again. Passer. If I carve it, they'll get the point. Actually, it's pretty rare in Italy for them to cut the pizza for you. They're just like, you have a knife and a fork. You're an adult. You're an adult. They just roll it up, asshole.

They just fling it at your face like a discise, right? Are you a little baby who need a pizza cuts? Oh, that does feel like the message they're sending where they're like plastic pizza cutter for you, celiac baby. Yeah. Sealyac baby, you need us not to use real flour. Here's a little plastic. pizza cutter for you. Your little tummy can't handle, can't handle

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 400, episode four of Dereylai, Zikey! We continue our very special season 400 extravaganza, which we've prepared many special things, many ordinary episodes without one of the co-hosts here. Just for you guys, just for you, Zykeg, as a way of saying thank you to you for sticking with us we don't we don't realize we're coming up on landmarks like this even though i say what season it is at the beginning of every episode we're reminded every single day and yet i'm i was i was shocked that we were at season 400 like at the end of last week i was like 399 that can only mean one thing anyways uh welcome to season 400 it's been a blast uh this is a podcast where we're

we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, I'm being told. Wow, bad, bad decision 400 seasons ago to make that the premise of our podcast. It's Thursday, August 7th, 2025. My name's Jack O'Brien, A.K., it was pissed, Jack. We all know that. Don't blame wood or ice no more, no more. It was pissed, Jack. Don't blame wood or ice no more.

That one, courtesy of Dr. Mondo, Ph.D. who resurfaced this one, thank you very much, in reference to, so this is the scene of the crime, back at the scene of the crime in Ocean City, the time that I rode a scary ride, admittedly a scary ride at Wonderland Pier with my cousins, rest in peace, or with my nephews. To the pier, not your family. Yes, RIP, we will talk about that. Walked off the ride. My shorts were wet. Nobody knows why. the ride was scary but I did not piss my pants I yes I had been known for pissing my pants at a certain point in my life when I drank too much but I did not I was sober at the

time find a new angle I I just guessed that maybe somebody had brought a water ice onto the ride and that's anyways someone pissed onto your somebody pissed onto my pants somebody else pissed my pants maybe is what is what i think but yeah i don't know my relationship to the zeitgang is similar to my relationship to my cousins where you know you piss yourself on one ride five years ago say it must be water ice start crying when they ask you follow-up questions and you know they won't let you forget it every time you're in ocean sydney and suddenly you're Rita's water ice piss pants cry baby guy thanks a lot dr mondo phd i do a Appreciate you and all the people who do the wonderful A.K.A.A.s for us. You're a huge part of this show. We love you.

Hey, speaking of we love you. We're thrilled to be joined in our second seat by a brilliant comedian writer, actor. Newest special, Daddy Long Legs. Loves talking about his legs. The special is really good. His legs are also pretty good. That's the dirty secret. One of our favorite guests. And yet. On the other hand, he is the coiner of the disgusting phrase plumbers to describe his thighs. Please welcome back to the show. Blake Wexler! Ooh, nice note. This is Blake Wexler, aka, I love it when you look at my plumpers.

My pants are going to tear, 6XL underwear. I love it when you look at big plumbers, that yummy south of tummy bigger than old Deuteronomy. I love it when you call it plumpers. What? Oh, that's Phil. Thanks for having me this week. It's great to be on season 400. Season 400, we made it.

A lot of people said, 300, maybe. 400 seasons, not a chance in hell, they said. Many were saying. Can't they just follow the British television model of two seasons with six episodes and then fucking done? But no, no, we're Americans. We do follow their model in the number of episodes per season. season, but we've gone a few beyond what's normal for the British to season 400. Blake, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest comedy writers doing it

anywhere. You know her words from the account, Birds of Rights Activist on Twitter, some more news with Cody Johnston, you know her voice from podcasts such as Creature Feature and secretly incredibly fascinating. Please welcome coming all the way from Italia, the brilliant, the talented. It's Katie Goldberg. Hey, Jack, I didn't realize you were Italian. I know, right?

You're so good. I mean, I knew about the phrase, went in Rome earlier before we started recording. You eat pizza. I eat pizza for breakfast, like an Italian. Meatballs for lunch and antipasta for dinner. A lot of people don't realize that. And I eat dinner at 2 a.m. That's true.

Like an Italian. Actually, almost true. They eat very late here. I know. They eat so late. It's actually like the antipasti is the main course. The cigarettes are the antipasti course. And then the four or five glasses, red wine are dessert.

Yeah, yeah. There's usually a little digestive bit of alcohol, a little bit of limoncello after. It's like, it's for your digestion. It's pro-pasty. It's never once stopped. Yeah, it's never once stopped my GERD. Yeah. Not a single time.

I don't even know what GERD is. Gastro-Eosophageal reflux disorder. Oh, okay. Who's Italian now, Jack? I think Gert's an Italian word. Esophageal. That's a little fun Italian word that you picked up over there. Yeah.

How long have you been over there, Katie? About four years now. Oh, amazing. Yeah. Jesus, Blake. I'm sorry, I don't know. Before we start recording, Blake was like, Katie, and you're still in L.A.? And which was, which was great.

She's been there four years. As I was looking at myself in the mirror, like I didn't listen to anybody. That's how fucking clueless. He was examining his legs. Yeah. They've grown. Doing curls for some reason the whole time. Katie, we're thrilled to have you here.

Thank you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners, a couple of things we're talking about today. And some of these are stories that you contributed because in addition to Miles being out this week, so is our writer J.M. McNabb is out this week. Katie Goldberg.

Nobody wants to work anymore. And Pahlavi Ghanalyn filling in on the writing front. So we've got a bunch of fun stories from Katie and Pallaby. Yeah, it's really nice email from you guys. We've looked everywhere. We can't find anyone else. Is that how it was worded to you? No.

No. We really fucked here. He needs to work on his bedside manner. Yeah. No, Victor was very nice. He was very nice. Victor is just the most, just stone-faced, like a slight smile while sliding the knife in between my ribs. You know what I'm saying, this guy?

No, Victor's like biggest sweetheart in the world. He sends me pictures of condemned buildings at 2 o'clock in the morning every single day. That's cool. It wakes me up. Yeah, I don't know. It's depressing to me. I wish I had someone in my life like that. Hey, you up?

You up? Yeah, yeah. I like them, Victor. One thing we're going to be talking about is how's tourism going in the U.S. I do like to always, whenever Katie's on, ask like, how are we looking to you from outside? Are you looking good? Seem good? So we'll talk about that.

We're going to talk about the fascism timeline where we're at. This is a question that I frequently ask myself. M. Gessen, the New Yorker writer, has had some things to say about this. I always find their insight valuable because they lived through Putin's rise and Russia's fall into authoritarianism. And they are one of the people who, from 2016, has been like, hey, this is looking a lot like Putin, like a lot. I know this. It's beginning to look a lot like Putin. We're completely fucked.

One of my favorite songs for any time of year. That and first, Noel. We were talking on yesterday. Did you guys see the Panama playlists, which are like somebody leaked famous and powerful people's Spotify playlists? And J.D. Vance has one for making dinner. And first of all these people's playlists are just like Backstreet Boys, NSYNC and Britney Spears songs for some reason.

They're all just like Hillary Duff. like just Vanessa Carl just like the songs that we're playing on the radio ambiently in like early aught teen movies. But anyways, he kicks off like in a playlist full of that and just like random like Jack FM cuts. He kicks it off with first Noel for cooking dinner for cooking. The first. Yeah. What better song. Anyways, we'll talk about tourism.

Disaster tourism in the United States, we'll talk about RFK, killing it. All of that plenty more. But first, Katie, we do like to ask our guest. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I did Google Swallow Nest because I was curious about Swalloness Soup. And I had this vague notion that it was mostly bird spit. And I thought people who are like having Swallness Soup are like mostly consuming birdspits. So I looked it up.

I was right. It is, so the swallowness are mostly hardened swift spit. I mean, it's confusing because they're actually swifts or swiftlets. They aren't swallows, even though it's called swallow nest. And it's like a bunch of spit. It's kind of got, it's got kind of like, it's an interesting texture of these nests because it's sort of like. Have you eaten it? No, no, no.

I kind of want to, but they're super expensive. Yes, I also want you to. Yes. If you guys buy it for me, it's like thousands of dollars. Is it? So it's, yeah, it's a, make that in a month. I did pull that down, easy. Yeah.

It's got like a almost like kentafi texture because it's like the bird is sort of 3D printing the nest with its spit coming out of its mouth sort of back and forth. Animals are so much fucking better than us. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, so it's not like gumming together a bunch of like. branches with its spit. It's pure spit. The whole thing is a spit structure.

It's mostly spit. At least what they collect, I think they have to clean stuff off of it, probably like bird shit and stuff. Feathers, I imagine. They're cleaning these nests before consumption. But the stuff that you're eating is like

almost completely bird spit. Damn. Yeah. So like you get to be a baby bird for a moment. Yes. Yeah. That's sweet. That's kind of cute.

Yeah. Yeah, it's fun. It's kind of mouth. It's like, French kissing a bird in your soup. So they are so into these birds that they will eat their spit, but they didn't bother

to get the right one. They're like, yeah, I don't know why it's Swift's sand swallows are quite similar, to be fair. So I don't know. I don't know who came up with that misnomer. It was an honest mistake. Yeah. Swift nest soup,

both very difficult for some people to say, but also maybe not. Swallow nest. I thought you were just like Googling like, Can I swallow this nest? I mean, essentially, that is the question. I swallow this bird's nest or what? Katie, what's the base of the soup?

Like, is it, like, is there a broth or is it just straight spit? I think they do put it in a broth and it kind of turns into this gelatinous texture. Interesting. Yeah, it's, I'm not sure if I would be able to. Like, the idea that it's bird spit is actually not the part that bothers me. when I read about its texture being described as gelatinous once it was in the soup, made me feel not great about it. Yeah.

Why? What's wrong? I don't know. gelatinous is not a good word and it's not often a good feeling. It is just good to know if you're ever like, hmm, I wonder if like I should try that berry. Maybe nobody's tried it before and it's fine. We've tried everything. People have tried everything.

If it's possible to eat, people have tried it, and they know about it, and it's considered a delicacy somewhere. So you don't have to worry about that. Somebody has eaten, somebody took a nest of a bird and was like, soup, maybe, as well. Yeah. My aunt makes this soup, makes something called lasagna soup. And my friend Todd and I laughed at like, well, she tried to make lasagna and clearly made it too watery and just said it was like oh no it's a lasagna soup it's like no you fucked up a lasagna and that's what this is now that's that's worse i i i'm i would definitely have the the bird

the bird soup uh for sure it's also like we eat a lot of like stuff that when you think about it it's a little gross like honey is bee vomit like bee regurgit it's so good though it's very good maybe so swift nest soup it's i mean it i think because it's so loved it's got to have going on. I'm not, I'm not dis in the soup. It is very expensive. I cannot afford it. But yeah, I mean, like, also, I don't, I realize I don't check all the time that shrimp are devained, especially like if it's like popcorn shrimp. I'm eating so much shrimp poop. Shrimp shit. You have a particular, I guess. Yeah. Because I realize that I had only eaten three pieces of pizza for breakfast right before we recorded, I went an eight, six

shrimp cocktail that we had left over in the, so I just, as I'm digesting shrimp, I do like to think about that. That might have been like, you know, a healthy portion, a healthy heaping of a shrimp shit. Also, shout out to us. Manko, Manko, Manko, and DeVanes their pizza. Is that correct? No, that's actually what gives it the flavor. That's what gives it that little punch, the little head bank.

Yeah, soup producer Bay says that the swallow nest soup is more dessert in China. So, there you go. I wonder if, health food. You know how some vodka kind of is, or not vodka, vomit is kind of like sweet smelling? Yes to both. Sure, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I wonder if that's what's going on with that.

One often followed by the other. that looks like it was created by my seven-year-old. Yes. Everything, like, the Philly area really does feel like you are in a different country that has a different level of, like, the billboards are like, these don't seem like they were professionally made. Well, I'm also not sure about the actual text, not just the design, because it says roses are red, violets are blue.

I'd give a pizza, my heart to you. yeah like a pizza are you giving the pizza the heart no no I'd give a pizza my heart to you like a piece of my heart a pizza my heart a pizza my heart the heart is clogged like oh you do not want that heart that heart yeah yeah a pizza my heart yeah a pizza my heart uh a pizza my heart is the name of the episode sorry what is something you think is underrated so okay I learned this story relatively recently and I'm I'm I'm campbell leave, I don't know, it feels like it needs to be taught in schools. It's

the city corp center engineering crisis. You guys hear about this? You guys know about this? You guys hear about this? I can't wait to hear more. My favorite journalist, my Edward R. Murrow was always Jay Leno. So with that lead in,

I can't wait to hear what's next. It's a skyscraper that's built on stilts. It was built in the 70s. And the reason it's on stilts is that there was like a church underneath it that refused to move. But the city court was able to get the property rights like above the church, but not the church itself. So their architect and engineer came up with this like, we'll put it on stilts. It's a skyscraper. It's

not a little building. So it's just like up on stilts. And it's kind of like they're not on the edges of the building, but sort of on the inside. It's kind of like if you had a stool, and then the stilts of the stool were really crowded sort of near the center. It doesn't seem very stable. So, yeah, the City Corp Center, right in New York City, right in Manhattan. Mayhem. Oh, I can go to. Man.

That sounds terrible, Katie. Yeah, so, yeah, it's right in Mahan. Oh, that's my parish. Yeah. That's my local parish. Your parish is under the shit. I didn't notice the big building on top of it all these years. So it was this great feat of engineering.

The structural engineer, Bill Le Measure, which is a good name. Fantastic. Bill La Measure. Bill Le Measure. And it's going to get really ironic. So he was in charge of designing the building. And then after the building was already built, it's out there, people are in it. Everyone's like, wow, building on stilts, cool.

He discovered a fatal flaw in it that he, by his calculations, it had like an almost 100% chance in the next century of collapsing and killing a bunch of people. So already hilarious. So it was made with bolted struts instead of welted struts. Amateur move. I mean, I know what you guys are thinking like, why did they go with bolted instead of welded? Welded. Yeah, welded. Yeah. Just screw it in with a little screwdriver. Yeah, yeah. Right. And so basically, Bill the measure did not measure. This is not a real name, by the way. he did bill

but he did not le measure hey this got worked on my house or what fucking got it I hope he collapses a hurricane was coming

and it was going to kill a bunch of people so he discovered that he did not give a shit I'm sorry well there's something called quartering winds

which is just like sideways winds So he, like, calculated the effects on each face, but not the quartering wins, amateur move. And so because the struts were bolted rather than welted, something to do with, like, sheer versus other forces, you know, physics. And so, like, if this hurricane hit Manhattan, this was in 1978, the building would go down. And he built it in the 70s.

He built it, yeah, like, he built it. in the 70s. So in 1978, he actually whistleblue on himself because he was like, he had at some point, he's like, I consider just driving off a bridge at this point because this was like a huge mistake. And it all, it really only came surface because he kept getting questions from, uh, structural engineering grad students were like, how does this building work? We don't understand it. And he's like, let me check them out. It looks impossible. Yeah. And so he built twice, Le measure once. as they say. Right.

And it was actually a really incredible building because it was like the first one that had something called a tuned mass dampener, which is sort of like a weight on springs that when a building sways and wind, it like counters the sway. So the building doesn't sway as much. That's fun.

It was very cool. And like buildings still used that. Like this was the first building that used it. So it was actually, it was a really, it's not like this structural engineer was an idiot. He was really, really good. He just didn't realize his firm used bolted struts, and he hadn't done this calculation. So he, like, told Citicorp, panicked and told the city, the city panicked.

But then they decided to, like, in secret, they did not tell the public because they didn't want them to panic. In secret, they had construction crews come in the dead of night into the building and replace the struts. Like, they added, I think they just had to add more bolts or add more struts to it to make it safe. safe. And so they would go, like, come in at night in secret. It was a secret for almost 20 years that this building almost came down. And then they're like, yeah, that happened. Don't worry about it. It was fine. It turned out great. So they did fix it. So they did fix it. Yes, they fixed it. And they had a, but the city had this evacuation plan for like 10 city blocks for people if the hurricane was going to hit

because they were not going to be able to finish the renovations in time for the hurricane. So it's just like their plan B was like everyone out of Manhattan. Just leave, please. Yeah. Yeah. I love this story. I agree it should be taught in schools. I have another story that I think is similar with a less happy ending that I think explains basically the modern world. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about this story. We're not going to get to any of the news stories we talked about today about anybody. But, you know, those are things that are happening. But we'll take a quick break. We'll be right back. The Stuff You Should Know guys have made their own summer playlist of their must listen podcasts on movies.

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And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And one thing I love about that story is that he built an impossible looking building. And it was not careful about it. It was just like, yeah, no, it looks great, but like that saved his ass. They're just like, you're going to get that.

That's wild, man. And I'm like, how is that possible? And he was like, possible. Oh, shit, it isn't. Oh, no. I'll talk about this every once in a while that there was this huge landslide in Peru that, like, destroyed an entire town, like, a town of, like, there were 30,000 people who died. And, like, I think it was eight years before this landslide happened. It was caused by an earthquake.

A group of climbers, like, was climbing. climbing the mountain that it happened on, and we're like, oh, no, and came down, told, like, everybody, told all the people who were, like, you know, officials, and they were kicked out of the country because they didn't want to cause a panic. They're being negative. Yeah, so you're just being too negative. Negative. Yeah, yeah. I'm actually at capacity right now. I can't hear about landslides.

Thank you. capacity. I've had such a hard four months. You cannot, please. You're trying to get me to do emotional labor about landslides and I am at capacity. Do not put your shit on me right now. That is trauma dumping, all right? Yeah. It's, but it's because I think about that story every time people are like, why is nothing happening with climate change? And some people are like, well, it's kind of this like diffuse problem. It's like too much of a bummer. And it's like, well, even when it's an acute problem with like a very specific like see that mountain that's going to come down on you and it's going to kill everybody like very soon the next time there's an earthquake something like that specific and they were like literally not only did people just like kind of make the jack off hand motion and like go on with their day they kicked them out of the country for like foresaying it being too much of a bummer you are hereby deported on the grounds of being a fucking bummer, man.

It's so scary how that just keeps happening where we just watch that new NetGeo Ryan Coogler documentary on Katrina, which is so sad and a really good documentary, but it's just one of the things we're like, guys, these levies are dog shit. Like we have no

wetlands to... We knew about that. Yeah, this is so bad. Yeah. Everyone knew. No, no, no, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yeah, you're going to say something more intelligent. No, no, no. People who like paid attention to the news Like, they were saying that every time an earthquake or every time a hurricane would like come through there, they'd be like, and the levees are going to break the next time, like, with a direct hit. And then as Katrina was approaching, they're like, you know, the levees might break with a direct hit. And then the levees broke with a direct hit. And they didn't fucking evacuate. They like didn't

have anybody there to help in case of that very disaster. That had been predicted a hundred times. And even after they broke, people were like, I mean, why is there so much water in this city? What is the deal with all this water? It's so wet in here. Obvious white supremacy. Yeah, it was white supremacy and not caring about the neighborhoods of color, right? Yeah, yeah.

Anyways, all right, great underrated. What's something you think is overrated? So I read this book that was on the New York Times bestseller list a bunch of time called Rememort. Get it! You can read! I don't know these parts of the show when people talk about books. So it was called Remarkably Bright.

creatures and I was under the impression based on the cover art as well as the synopsis of the book that this was going to be about a mystery solving octopus and it was barely about that maybe 5% of the book was octopus related it was a novel and I thought it was going to be heavy it's a big book it's normal I don't know it's normal it's just a book but it's fiction But it's fiction Blake do you know what fiction Sorry Katie We got to stop down here

And tell Blake That's what happens When things are rubbing together Right And they don't Right Actually you know We don't have time

We don't have time Keep going Keep going Katie So like it was It was like So it did have Some octopus in it

Most of it though Was like Feel good family crap And I could not Give less of a shit Like I The only parts of the book

I wanted to read was about this mystery-solving octopus, and the author made the baffling decision that that was not the interesting part. The interesting part was following some random guy trying to track down his dad that he hadn't seen since he was born and finding his grandma or whatever. It was, and it was the big, I'm so mad.

People have a real, like, human bias, you know? They really know. They're just like, the most interesting, part would be this person and what they think about their parents. It's like, uh, yeah. We know. By the way, word for word, word for word, you're the first half of that review. It was my review of finding Dory also.

It was like, it could have been about a crime solving octopus, and instead it's family-friendly bullshit. You got that into the New York Times, by the way. I did. Yeah, yeah. Well, by taking out a full page, I add. Of course. Well, it doesn't matter how you get it in there.

It's the destination, not the journey. Yeah, that's why I'm a New York Times bestseller, by the way. I just called myself that on a full page ad. When you said brightest animals, I thought you were going to talk about the angler fish and other animals with lights coming off of her. It would have been better. It would have been so there.

Remarkably break creatures. These are creatures that give off light. And just a list of them in a book I would have enjoyed more. And were the people smart was the person in their day? That's smart. No, they weren't. They weren't very smart. They, the author said, like, this person is smart.

And then everything else was to the contrary. So, and there was just so much focus on detail that I didn't care about. It was like, kind of like, it was like cock teasing this octopus and not giving us any of this fucking octopus. Yeah, yeah. That's fucked up. So, terrible. Remarkably bright creatures, go fuck yourself. I put that in Italian for you.

If the very sweet author ever finds out, if the author is like, it's broken. We'll have the mark. It seems like a very nice lady. You're more than welcome on our show, I'm sure. There was a recent story about an octopus. Did you see that story where a octopus that couldn't solve any crime, but is a Pacific giant octopus or something the other? In the San Antonio Aquarium was accused. of like trying to pull a child into the tank somehow.

Nice. I'd read a book about that. Yeah, there it is. One octopus solves the crime. The other octopus does the crime. Yeah. According to Brittany Taron, this is the mother's name, which is just two white lady names matched together.

But Britney Taryn on TikTok said the octopus starts coming out of the tank. And the reason we don't have pictures or videos of this is because my friend was also freaking out. And then she said that her child got bruises on the arm and the octopus was not letting go. I mean. So I have insight into this where this is a new thing

that the San Antonio Aquarium's doing where it helps. So one of the kids, there were two kids. The kid who was grabbed was wearing a Kansas City Chief's hat. The other kid was wearing an Eagles hat. So this is how they predict Super Bowls now where the octopus pulls a child wearing the hat into the aquarium. Which child is

drowned by the octopus? So it looks like it's the chiefs in 2025, 2026. Tragedy on two counts. I thought you were going to say that that child was you and they were just like, we've got to make it a child. Otherwise, it's not going to be believable.

They actually thought I was a child. Yeah. He was human-sized and had a full beard, but he was licking a lollipopping out a propeller hat. Biggest legs on a child I've ever seen. God. There was a whole vetting process. Like, there was 2,000 applicants, and I made it through all of it.

How did you not realize I wasn't a child? All right. Let's get into some news. Let's talk tourism. Sure. They're saying tourism bad in America right now. I mean, okay. So tourism on fire is one way that I'm sure the news is being given to Trump.

Because have you noticed that he's really like into things being hot lately? He's like, this is the hottest. Hottest, but in quote, it's not literally hottest because he's not. He puts it in quotes. Yeah, yeah. So hot. Well, he puts everything in quotes. He probably, like, puts his own name in quotes.

He doesn't know how quotes work. But anyways, yeah, the Grand Canyon literally hot right now. The Dragon Bravo fire has been going on since July 4th. Destroyed dozens of structures, including the Grand Canyon Lodge, which is one of the main tourism nexusies. Nexas? Whoa. Nexuses. You put it in the story, Katie.

I wrote it, but I don't know. I don't know. Locus. Locus of tourism. There we go. And this also might be tied to the federal government just like not being staffed anymore because the way that they handled this was, so there was a lightning strike on the 4th of July. God was like, hell yeah, America, brother.

Happy 4th, bitches. And there was a lightning strike. And the federal government was like, it always feels like. they just found out about controlled burns or something, like that day because they were like, let's do a controlled burn, which you're supposed to do during the winter when things aren't like hyperflammable. You're supposed to like start the fire intentionally and like have a path and you don't just declare a fire that is not in your control, a controlled burn. But that's what they did here. And it got out of control. And hence now you can't go to the Grand Canyon anymore.

in Trump's America. We're also hearing bad news that Vegas tourism is down in June by 11%. And that was before, you know, the Grand Canyon Fire, which is fugging up air quality in that whole region. And nobody can figure it out. You know, it's weird. Maybe all the lost wages jokes finally hit people. Right.

This is such a welcoming country to foreign tourists as well. coming in like people weren't afraid it's it's so also the world cup is coming up as well with this fucking awful in this administration why would anyone want to come here during the world it's the worst timing like instead of having a like tourism camp you know other countries i've seen them they're like visit italy it's i mean it's the place everybody visits it's fucking sick look at look at all this art i think that i'm directly quoting the campaign now i hope it yeah look at all this art No, that was it. Yeah, that's in there.

So fucking sick. Look at the art. Venice is fucking... Check on his fucking water. Dog. His fucking water. The streets. Yeah, the streets are wooder.

Again, I think this might be a Philly specific ad campaign. Waldoz are boat pilot. We need a, we need a Philly Pope after the Chicago Pope. I know. Oh, my God. Could you imagine? He went to Villanova. He went to Villanova.

He did. So he is kind of, he is half Philly. He's kind of a Philly Pope. Oh, man. And by the way, like, you know, the only logos that you see when you're at the part of the Jersey Shore where I am are like Philadelphia Phillies, Philadelphia Eagles, no more of the Sixers because they're a garbage organization. And then and then Villanova. But Villanova is big right now. I think the Catholics are very proud to have Villanova Pope down the shore.

Nice, yeah. Anyways, some of the reasons that tourism might be down. Instead of having a, you know, well, come to America, visit our giant land that you can roam freely inside of. Our outward messaging has been like, we will fucking, we will lock you up. Your family will think you're dead. We don't like the way you look. We will send you to a country you're not even from and you'll end up dead maybe. Your parents will not know where you are or that you've ever existed.

Right. We'll erase you like one of those guys in Stalin pictures. You just like won't be on the historical record. So that's one thing. And we- Yeah, that's a tough obstacle to overcome. Yeah. It is too early. We're still testing the results on that campaign. Also, he's completely fucked the economy. So people inside America have less spending power. You know, that does seem like one of those unfakable things. It's like if people have money to go to Vegas, like they can't be doing too bad. had because they will go. If they have money to go, they will go. And if they're not going to Vegas, that means the economy is actually not doing great. So I don't know what this means because I've heard Trump is killing it on the economic front. But I am just curious, Katie, from your perspective, how are we doing? How's it looking from outside? Are we being too harsh?

I do remember talking to a German tourist in the U.S. and they were, like, selling me on the U.S. as a tourist destination. They're like, oh, you should, like, travel more in the U.S. because, like, we come over there. You can, like, go wherever you want. You don't need a passport to go from state to state. There's so much nature there. And your cuisine is amazing.

No, they didn't say the cuisine part. But is there a palpable sense that going to the United States is less attractive and more unwelcoming than before? It's pretty palpable. I, uh, yeah, we've actually been both both me and my husband have been asked by various people if it's safe to go to the U.S. and like asking us for advice and like they're kind of like saying like this is all overblown, right? Like I can go. It's fine. And we're like, uh, maybe maybe. But yeah, I think it kind of depends also on which country people come from. Like a lot like people we've talked to who are from. South American countries aren't not necessarily. They're like canceling plans. They're not going.

Yeah. Italians, I think, are confused and are a little bit wary because of the news about, like, border problems. I don't think they usually have too many issues, but I don't know. I mean, like, I can't, I can't confidently reassure them, which is weird. They're like, is it safe to go to the U.S.? Like, in terms of, like, the border? I don't know. I mean, like, hopefully if you have, you've made no mistake on your flight arrangements or any of your paperwork and, like, you didn't pack too much luggage so they're going to, like, accuse you of staying longer. Maybe it'll be fine, but I can't, it's very strange to like be asked that and not be able to be like, what are you talking about? It's fine to go. I mean, you think they're confused. Think about ICE having to decide whether or not to arrest them when they have a dark.

Or skin and dark hair, and they don't speak English without an accent. I mean, that's hard on ice, too. It is very funny when Italians are sort of prejudiced against each other, because it's guys, in the eyes of America. Right. You're all Italian. We were just in Ireland last week, and obviously this is anecdotal, but, you know, if you have a choice as an international, you know, like coming in internationally to the United

States, you have a choice between almost any country. And also, why would you go to a country and spend your money there that is currently waging a trade war against the entire world? Like, making things more expensive for you at home. And I mean, forget us. Also, like, you know, for them in other countries. And we also, while we were there, I saw. So I'm getting all this Irish pop-up shit now on my Instagram. And this saddest tourism thing I've ever seen was like this guy, it was an Aer Lingus thing saying,

There's this gorgeous, unknown city in the United States that you have to go visit. Direct flights from Dublin to Indianapolis. And it was like the saddest thing in the, where there's nothing to do in Indianapolis. Indianapolis. They have like, I think a steakhouse that's supposed to be good. Beards of corn. There's some, there's some, beans and fields of corn. They have steak in Indianapolis, unlike Ireland where there's no beef products whatsoever.

But there's all the comments where, like, people saying, I'm from Indianapolis, for the love of God, do not come here. You deserve so much better than coming to Indianapolis. So imagine going from Ireland to Indianapolis? Like, Ireland is beautiful. There's just a pub on every corner. People just like playing, just like, you know, like, like, like, like movies from the 50s about like, there's a duob group on every corner, like that kind of community that we made up that happened in the 50s. Like, that's actually

what Ireland's like. There's just a group of people playing fiddles in every pub who just like, they just like randomly started playing together. They're like, oh, you're playing the fiddle and then like come in with a fucking, you know, washboard that they're playing or some spoons. I don't know. Or you could go to a

massive convention center. Right. So it depends on what you like. Everybody has different, you know. Indianapolis is like a city that was built to host the N.C. AA final four. And the combine. Yeah, and the combine.

It's like, yeah, stuff like that. It's good for events. It's good for, yeah, like professional, like a bunch of salespeople have come in for the weekend to all, you know, hear the keynote from the CFO of Salesforce. That's what Indianapolis I feel like is good for. I feel like it's sad lanyards. It's hard to travel as an American now and not have people like demand to know why we're. tariffing the shit out of whatever country you're going to. And it's like, I don't

know, I don't know. Art of the deal, man. I don't know. Art of the deal, brother. It's going to be big. It's going to be real big. We're getting a good deal. It's going to be huge. Just wait. You'll see. All right. So people, people have caught on that it's. Yeah, there, they're, like, and this is not just like, like, people on vacation. These are, like,

researchers who will, like, like, that work at the university or, like, is it safe to, like, go to the U.S. for conferences and stuff. So, like, even in their, like, professional lives, they're worried, which, again, we can't just be like, yeah, no problems. It's like, you know, yeah. Yeah.

No, it's good. Just, I don't know, check it out. Indianapolis. So you've heard of Minneapolis. That's a good city. So this is that. But for another state that's worse than the other one. Let's take a quick break.

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Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I did want to get into an animal story for our animal queen, Katie Golden. I like, that's sick. Post podcasts about animals, Cloud Creature Feature, know so much about animals. so learned it so learned in fact that she will read a book and it's bad and she'll keep reading it until the book is over is something that I've learned that people do yeah that's crazy so they never went back to the octopus unbelievable I thought maybe there was gonna it was gonna be real octopus heavy at the end and it wasn't

the octopus was the friends that they made all along with their long lost dad all right so we got an story. The United States Department of Agriculture, and again, like, this is... Does that still exist? We still have that. Right. Like, I feel like all of these stories are, like, should be understood within the context of all of these

organizations are being fucking gutted. These may be the death throws of a dying, like, somebody who's been gut shot and is, like, bleeding out, being like, tell my mother I love her. Tell my wife, I'm sorry.

They're trying. The remnants of And the Remnants of the United States Department of Agriculture is using different recorded noises to scare wolves off from killing cattle and other livestock on farms across the U.S. So just it is on brand for this administration in that like they're marshalling their resources to protect steak to protect like meat and cows.

But anyways, so they're sending loudspeakers out, you know, on drones and, you know, are just various things. Broadcasting sounds like fireworks, gunshots, ACDC's thunderstruck, and the fight scene between Scarlett Johansson and Adam Driver from the movie Marriage Story. I mean, it does make you cringe real bad. That scene? I mean, for me, and make, oh, my God.

I think the wolves are liberals? Like, why are they playing all these noises? That scene didn't make your palm sweaty? Made my knees weak. Spaghetti. Mom spaghetti was on my sweater. After that one, I will say that. You also had that for breakfast today, Mom Spaghetti.

The USDA District Supervisor in Oregon said of this, I need the wolves to respond and know that, hey, humans are bad, which is one way to look at marriage. Also, the sickest endorsement of a hard rock song of all time that, like, they're using our shit to teach wolves that humans are bad, man. Like, that's how, that's how evil. It's how hardcore our shit is. Also, this song is played on Jack FM at least twice a day. Hell yeah.

But this just kind of sounds like Geneva-style torture, right? Like, this is like, it seems like that's what they're going for. It's like what they did with the Branch Divideons, right? Where they, like, blasted music at them. Yeah, Barney music, which seems weird because the Branch Divideans, the whole thing, was that they had a bunch of children in there. Yeah, the children were probably psyched for a little bit. Yeah.

But so apparently the drones are working in a 20-day period without the drones. Eleven cows were killed in a specific region of Oregon by the wolves. Over 85 days when the drones were teaching the wolves. about the difficulties of long-term monogamous commitment. Only two cows were killed by wolves. However, a dozen cows killed themselves. No, that was my Jay Leno punchline. Here's fun.

They were just playing the sound of Mavis giving me the silent treatment. Mavis is J-Leno's wife. You know, everyone knows that. Everyone knows that reference. I feel like everything in like... Kevin, you see this? You heard about this? Everything, like, in terms of like...

Kevin? Kevin? You think he wakes up in the middle of the night doing that? You're just in a nursing home? You heard about this? Kevin, Kevin. Kevin. Sorry, Katie. Oh, it just seems like anything that has to do with, like, public health or agriculture

has to now be through this, like, hyper-masculine, like, we're going to scare some wolves. We're going to scare some wolves thereby saving the stakes. Yeah, like, do we want to look into bird, flu vaccines that might save many more cows. Great transition, Katie. Great transition, Katie. We do not. We do not.

RFK Jr. has canceled $500 million in vaccine research, the MRNA vaccine. One of the biggest advancements in Murna. Murna. Murna. It's Merna. One of the biggest advancements in modern medicine. is getting $500 million in research funding pulled by RFK Jr. This is following $600 million in grants being revoked from Moderna

as they were researching vaccines for bird flu. Yeah. I mean, but that's not cool, like scaring wolves. Right, exactly. Scaring wolves with pop culture stuff that you don't like. Yeah. Yeah. They're also gutting CDC pandemic surveillance, which that's the thing that, like, that was the one thing that made me feel okay after the pandemic was like reading up about how on top of it, like the scientific community is where they're like, we know when there's like an outbreak of the flu in another country, like we're on top of that shit.

Like we are constantly monitoring other countries, healthcare systems, our own health care systems. to see if there's like a slight flare up and we will be on that shit. You know, nothing is going to sneak up on us. Yeah, like our pandemic surveillance system in the U.S. was like internationally renowned. Like other countries are like, great, this is, we're glad that you have this. And then our surveillance can coordinate with yours because yours is really good. And just like, yeah, but it's not scaring wolves.

So. Right. It's so crazy that this country just will not learn a fucking lesson. Like, Not one lesson where it's the same thing where, like, I mean, we were just talking about with Katrina or how couldn't we have learned our fucking lesson about global warming and like how to take precautions about that. It's the same. It's not like the pandemic happened in 1941. It just, it just fucking happened.

And it fucked everybody up, you know? You mean the pandemic. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And that's why I brought it up is so we could actually assign the real blame. But it's like even dumb fucking RFK with his anti-vax shit, it's like the pandemic wasn't fun for him. The guy was still locked up in a house and like probably the weird shit that he liked to do was closed, you know? So like even if you are that stupid and don't believe in these vaccines, why would you want another one of these fucking things to happen?

It's so frustrating. Just the fact that anyone once asked him to wear a mask anywhere, like must have infuriated him to such a degree. degree, it was like a babysitter telling him she wasn't attracted to her. You know, like, it was just like, the first time he had, the first time he had heard, like, no or, like, been told what to do in his life. And he, like, just could not countenance it. He is not cool with Murna vaccines, calling it the deadliest vaccine ever made. Katie, as a woman of science.

Like, does that, does that check out? No. Confirmed? Oh, no. It does not. I mean, it has maybe the most people who have taken it. Uh-huh. But, and then you could, if you really massage the statistics, you could probably, like, come up with a statistic of, like,

there's a ton of people who, after taking the vaccine died. Died because people die. Because people die. And, yeah, it's not the world's deadliest vaccine. It's very safe. I can't wait for RFK Jr. to spring his theory that that's what happened to JFK. His head just did that after he took an MRNA, an early MRNA vaccine. It's, so they are, on the other hand, going to focus on what's called good old-fashioned wholesale vaccines.

There's a lot of papa you make. It is like they put like they put me in charge of the U.S. Department. of health didn't let me talk to a single expert and insisted I started drinking again like that because like there's always like a small like little nugget of logic that I'm like I think that would fool me if I was like like wholesale that's like whole foods which is a healthier version of Kroger so it's not marked up yet so it's I'll take the whole cell vaccine for 500 million Alex yeah because I'm dumb and like the yeah Yeah, and I'm aware of the fact that I'm dumb.

RFK Jr.'s, yeah, no such luck on this guy. No, no. Yeah, and wholesale vaccines have more side effects than MRNA vaccine. So it's like, ah, but we don't, you know, like, oh, we don't really know how safe these MRNA vaccines are. But we do know that wholesale vaccines cause a lot of problems, which is why we're trying to move away from them. Like, we don't, there was like a whooping cough wholesale vaccine that had a lot of, like, really, nasty side effects and bad outcomes. And so we stopped focusing on that because it's not as good.

Yeah. But it didn't, you know, didn't have nasty fetus particles in it. That's very disgusting. That's right. Disgusting out of fetus. Mm. Did you call them fetus? Fetus.

Yeah, it's plural. Fetus. Fetus. Fetus. Peta. That's another Philly pronunciation of fetus. Do you think fetus is the plural of like fetus? Like pitas is the plural of pita.

Pita's bread. Pitas. Yeah. I don't speak Greek, but I would imagine that's about right. Also, I did just want to talk, because this is a related story that you also submitted KD. Also in the RFK, maha, maha, maha, is how it's pronounced. The sound of a dumb person coming to a conclusion. Mahha.

For her. is that people are getting E. coli from drinking raw milk. Yeah. Six kids under 10 years old, children particularly vulnerable do the risk of kidney failure and due to the risk of having RFK Jr. As the head of doctors in our country and his whole thing is like, the only way to like protect our children is to feed them dirt from the ground. and grass.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So he's a big fan of raw milk. He at the at the 2022 Children's Health Defense Conference, damn, that sounds like they really want to protect children. That sounds so good. That is a part, that's taking place in Indianapolis, by the way, so you can go check that out. It's like how you want your buildings built by someone named Bill LaMessor.

Exactly. I don't know. Give that guy the job. He seems like he knows what he does. Oh, I'm sorry. That was an anti-vaccine advocacy group. He sat on stage, since I was here last year, I only drank raw milk. Now I look at me. My eyes are turning yellow and I look weird. I look like I've had my personality completely, my humanity removed from me. I have no light behind my eyes anymore. Isn't that a sign that things are going well? Anyways, so I did not realize that because I, I did not, I kind of, my bullshit detector, and it's a very finely tuned machine, started going off around the raw milk thing based mainly on the people who were advocating it, seeming to be mainly like anti-baxers.

So I didn't like look that much into it. The thing that they're worried about is pasteurized milk. And Katie, can you explain what pasteurized milk is? It makes the help milk hot, make help milk hot, and then it cool milk down. They make milk hot. They make milk go hot. That was my answer without the silly voice. I would have just said it make milk hot.

No, that's it. It sounds really fancy, right? Pasteurization named after the new pasteur. But it sounds French to me, Katie. It's just heating up the milk. It's like, it's like, oh, I'm going to pasteurize this meat now and you put it on the grill. Like that's it's just heating the milk up and then rapidly cooling it. It's, that's it.

You just like kind of, it's not even, I don't even think it's quite boiling. It's like under 100 degrees Celsius. So it's just like heating the milk up to kill bacteria. We just need to call it freedom clean. Yeah. This milk has been freedom cleaned. Yeah. So that's the thing that they object to.

They're like, instead, don't clean the milk. Don't do the thing that we know protects things. And like is the reason that we, like, is the logic behind 90% of food safety? He is like temperature and like, you know, boil it and cool it. I was going to joke about next. They're going to say we should be eating raw meat. But they, some of them are doing that. Yeah, sure what are doing that.

How did we get here? How? What? Why? What the fuck is happening? Anyways, all right. Always great to have a woman of science, a woman from outside these United, living outside these United States to come on as our expert witness to just check in and be like,

Hey, things are going well. And based on what I'm hearing, sounds like we're in tip-top shape. You're doing great, guys. Thank you. Nice try. And you're welcome back anytime, but I can't guarantee you'll make it back to your country. Yeah.

I'm a little, I'm slightly concerned. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? So, yeah, I have a podcast on this here network called Creature Feature. or I talk about animals being mean to wolves, you know, just the animal behavior. It turns out, you know, sometimes animals is the real people. And I'm also on a secretly incredibly fascinating a podcast with Alex Schmidt, world's most golden retriever human. And he teaches me about...

He has the kindness of a golden retriever and the mind of... A smart octopus that solves mystery. Yes, exactly. That's right. It's the killer combo. But he teaches me about something. Every week, he's like, let's learn about this thing, like cathode ray tubes. I'm like, Alex, that sounds boring.

I'm not going to lie to you. That sounds boring. And then he blows my mind. It's not boring at all. It's actually really interesting. And I write for some more news. There's a bunch of us, actually. It's not just me.

A bunch of writers, people working on it. Cody getting on there, losing his mind. frequently talking about American politics. So, yeah, I would check all those things out. Not really doing social media. It seemed like social media died, so I kind of stopped bothering with it. You can check out old stuff I've written on Probert Rights back when it used to be Twitter, and I used to have hope. One of my favorite Twitter Twitters.

Katie, that's one of my favorite Twitters of all times. It's a good Twitter. That's a good Twitter. That Twitter comes from good stock. Why to get eugenics all of a sudden, Blake? Strong Twitter stock. That's a good what Twitter. My name was our bird rights activist.

Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yeah. So, I mean, this was actually a tweet from like 2019 that I saw pop up. on Reddit of all places, who would have guessed? But it's a, this woman, Meach, I'm sure I'm not pronouncing that right, but it's Meach the Sierra. And she's responding to a The Straits Times article that says, Your bowl of rice is hurting the climate too. And she responds, should I just die?

Would that help? I really love it because I feel like a lot. lot of articles are like, this minor thing you're doing, that is very human. Like, you eat rice, you have a dog. That's also hurting the climate. And I get the sense that there's like, it's probably just to get clicks. That's always what it is. But it's almost like it feels like there is a concerted sciop to depress people so much we stop caring about climate change. It's like, I put on socks and that makes climate change. What the, what the fuck else am I supposed to do? Yeah. It's mainly.

It's mainly a handful of corporations and billionaires. We can, I think, just chill out. You can eat rice. I think it's the private kids. Eat rice while planning the revolution. Yeah. You're fine. It's their fault.

That truly is. We should start naming hurricanes and, like, stadiums and stuff after these fuckers, honestly. I feel like that. That would be a really helpful campaign. When we, when this is all over, the hypothetical that I like to think about, that is never going to come true. I do, I think that's one of the first things we should be doing. There will be a lot of hurricanes too.

Yeah, so many hurricanes are named after that. Because there'll be more hurricanes. Yeah, like famines and stuff like that. And then we like keep reporting on like famines that then cause like humanitarian crises instead of being like crime wave. We're like, this is also caused by the CEO of Exxon, you know, or whatever fucking company. Exxon specifically, like the CEO who found out about climate

change before everyone else and was like, okay, how do we fix this little PR problem of us? Send the scientist out of the country. Blake, yeah. Where can people find you as there work media you've been enjoying? Appleg Wexler

on all social media. Tomorrow, I did a show in Philly last week and I'm going to post a little clip. A lot of Zytegang were there and I did a little riff about Zykegarn. about how I've been, you know, kind of siphoning off for, like, sucking away your audience when I do live show. But I kind of got caught in between the phrase siphoning off and sucking away.

So you can watch that clip. And also, I'll be to stand up. All my shows are in my bio on social media. I'm coming to Wilkesbury, Asheville, Arkansas, and Boston coming up. And then work of media. I'm going to go with a work of art, which was a, I sent this, I texted this to Miles and Jack. It's a painting of plumpers.

So a just two large legs coming out of boxer shorts that Carson, a Zite gang guy, painted for me and gave me to one of my shows. So I'm going to send that for the show. Beautiful. Yeah, the little image. But that person's Instagram is at no mug, no coffee on Instagram. That's Carson who did the plumpers art. So, yeah, that's the work of art that I've been enjoying.

great artist baffling policy on coffee no mug no mug he drinks i have a pint glass sorry brother yeah no mug no coffee right out of the crups cup i have this have this styrofoam cup that is specifically made for a cut nope wrong you you can read you can read the sign all right uh work media i've been enjoying kira sullivan tweeted being in a bad mood is so humiliating like why am I replying in one word answers? This is ruining my brand as a delight to be around. I feel so naked without my zest for life. I think that's a fun way to think about.

That's great. Being in a bad mood is just like, ugh, this sucks. I look so stupid right now. This isn't me. This isn't me. But that is how I generally like to treat like when I'm moody is to admit it as soon as possible

and start making fun of myself. because otherwise I just keep doubling down on it. Be like, no, this is just a normal way to behave. I'm being normal. You're being my seven-year-old's like, you look. I treat myself like a toddler because I go through, I go through questions, are we hungry? Yes, exactly.

Are we thirsty? Are we a little sweepie? Is this what this is? Are we sweepie? I'm sweepie. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on Blue Sky at Jack O'B. The number one, you can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zytegeist. We're at The Daily Zykeist on Instagram.

Those are the three places, mainly, that you can find us. You can also go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And underneath the little show description, you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We got a little source links. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. And Miles being out of the country, we do like to ask super producer Justin Connor to come in, Justin, tell us what's something he's been listening to that he thinks you guys might enjoy. And Justin, could you recommend it in a way that's super poetic, like you always do?

Yeah, sure, I can do my best. This song was released a few weeks ago, and it already feels like a classic to me. It has a late 90s, early 2000s, R&B vibe. The instrumental arrangement really amplifies the powerful vocals of this amazing singer. And if you want to feel warm and loved, I highly suggest putting this one on for a few moments. This is To Love and Be Loved by Annie Tracy, and you can find that in the footnotes. Footnotes? He does always poetic.

I never noticed that before, but I've always like worded. Just felt calm listening to Justin's speak, and it is always very poetic. Tranquil. Yeah, tranquil, yes. What if pitchwork was written by somebody with a. Good Heart instead of an ice cold one. It's just four. What if it was written by somebody who likes music?

It's a good pitch. Anyways, The Daily Zykeyes is a production of IHeart Radio for more podcasts from IHeart Radio. You can visit the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.

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