The Daily Zeitgeist - “Planned” Vacay, State Fair Fare 8.9.19

Episode Date: August 9, 2019

In episode 451, Miles and special guest host Caitlin Durante are joined by writer and comedian Jocey Coffman to discuss the biggest ICE raid in history in Mississippi, racist Tucker Carlson, food at the Iowa State Fair, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. ICE Raids Miss. Plant After $3.75 Million Sexual Harassment Settlement2. ICE raids sweep up 680 undocumented immigrants across Mississippi3. AS #FIRETUCKERCARLSON TRENDS, THE FOX NEWS HOST'S ADVERTISERS INCLUDE A PILLOW COMPANY AND CARIBBEAN RESORTS4. Iowa State Fair: 57 new foods to try for 20195. Sludge: An American Healthcare Story6. WATCH: Khruangbin - Order of Operations Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever

you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

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internet, and welcome to Season 94, Episode 5 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. Okay, that's a new way to say it. That's how we talk in la now okay this is a podcast we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say off the top from the start line fuck coke industries and fuck fox news okay it is friday august 9th 2019 my name is miles gray

aka 2019. My name is Miles Gray. A.K.A. I am known for being Miles of Gray. I am known for eating fast food almost every day. Life of the party like to smoke my bowl. Ooh, Italian man, you simply must go. Yeah. I'll try anything that you want me to do.

Yeah. Eyesight. Almost anything that you want me to do. Yeah. But I can't speak for Jack. no no can do i can't speak for jack no no no can do you got to respect the rhythm of the no can do and no can do okay that's very important the hollandos ak's have not ended neither has my love for them thank you to everybody who put my attention onto that hotline i've not called it yet i don't want to ruin my life the hollandose ak's have not ended neither has my love for them thank you to everybody who put

my attention onto that hotline i have not called it yet i don't want to ruin my life uh but thank you to wide awake at 3 45 a.m for that can't go for that aka now we have a guest host someone who whose name it inspires many Not because of the way it just rolls off your tongue, but for the amount of letters that can be recombined to create an infinite number of combinations that are so awe-inspiring, they're unbelievable. Not only is this person a, someone with a master's degree, okay,

in film writing, okay, this person is a comedian doing good in the world, teaching classes, trying to educate others on how to be a good comedian. Also, the host of a seminal podcast, one might say. One known as the Bechdel cast. Now, it is my pleasure, my honor, to introduce today's guest co-host, Caitlin Durante. A.K.A.

Latin dancer, UTI. Yes. A.K.A. Nine Durante. A.K.A. Latin dancer UTI. A.K.A. Nine Tit Dracula. A.K.A. Lauren D. Titanic. Wow. A.K.A. This is a new one. Urine addict deal. Urine addict deal. Urine addict deal? An addict filled with urine and then a deal that maybe happens within that addict or a deal to sell that addict.

It could be anything. Oh, an addict, not an addict. Right. Oh, a urine addict deal. Wow. Right, like it's a urine deal going down in an addict. Exactly. Yes, yes. That's what people do when they want to test clean on pee tests.

There's an addict you go to. So maybe it should be attic urine deal. There was a basketball player recently who on his drug test found out he was pregnant and they're like, what the fuck? And at first people were really confused. Then they realized he stole his girlfriend's urine to piss clean on the test and she didn't even know.

Oh my gosh. And they're like, first of all, you're banned for a year. And also congratulations, whoever's of all, you're banned for a year. And also, congratulations. Whoever's penis is, they're pregnant. Also, it wasn't like an Arnold Schwarzenegger in junior being pregnant kind of thing. No. Got it. But when will science catch up and allow people with penises to become pregnant and carry the babies?

Like cisgendered men to have children? Yes. We'll see. I'm waiting. I talk about this whenever we talk about male pregnancy. Brett Weinbach has a video where you can see someone give birth through a penis and what that would look like. And it's horrifying.

But you know what? If that's what y'all go through, then we should go through it too. I don't think necessarily you should give birth through a penis. Well, that's my stance. Okay. okay i mean brave yeah thank you so much don't say i wasn't an ally okay um and we are thrilled to be joined in our guest third spot a first-time guest uh but a longtime friend of mine and someone who i've been dying to get on the show now i would describe this person first and foremost as a human being. Wow.

Then a comedian. Then a writer on the podcast Love It or Leave It with John Lovett on another network, decent network, but a different one. Still love it. I won't leave it. And also a true daughter of Iowa. Please welcome Jossie Coffman. Hello. Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming,

Jossie. Yes, I'm the corn queen. That's how I'm going to brand myself as a new guest. Wow, great. I'm a sludge queen. You're the sludge queen? A.K.A. sludge slut. Sludge slut. Slut for sludge. Yeah. I'm part of a podcast that you're going to be doing, right? About healthcare in this country. It's already dropped dropped two episodes already out baby okay well we'll have to let y'all know about that later on he's sludge to me twice and she's like you'll hear more you'll find out are you confused everyone just just wait just keep listening um jossie before we get into your life and who you are uh let's give people a quick preview about what we're going to talk about today okay look we are going to talk about a historic ice raid, not in a good way, in a really terrible

fucked up way that happened in Mississippi, and a weird coincidental fact about, you know, raids and worker abuse. And sometimes raids tend to follow up allegations of worker abuse. Wow. Who would have thought? I don't know. Not saying one's connected to the other, but there might be some examples. I guess those worker abuse claims never get addressed.

Right. Well, and sometimes they do, but we'll get into that even more. Tucker Carlson, you know, he obviously somehow his racist dial didn't even go up to 11. It went to fucking 19. He turned it up to 20 and suddenly took a vacation that was already planned. Okay. It was very planned. So it's not about anything else.

He was planned. It's fine. He's planned. Okay. And then finally, because we have an actual island here and I have a love for your state, I must be honest. The state fair began yesterday, Thursday. And, you know, I just want to go over some of the food, the new food items with you. And also just to show me what it's like to be part of your world. Yeah, of course. I can't wait. I was at the top of the research and development of consumable foods, for sure. Were you? Yeah, pushing boundaries.

Oh, I would really actually believe that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, we do like produce like 70 percent of the world's edible corn. And that's these are the facts that I'm bringing hot. Yeah, thank you. And also a big thanks to the corn lobby that's these are the facts that i'm bringing hot yeah thank you and also a big thanks to the corn lobby that paid for you to be here oh yeah i'm rolling in a substantial donation to our show that they gave and they're like we don't know just get jossie yeah the corn lobby is funding my hollywood lifestyle and i am on rooftop bars every night telling people facts yeah and ordering the appetizers you're like mama shelter you're like have you tried the street corn

i'm like actually you gotta you can you can sit at the tables if you actually order food. Okay. Let's get into it. Jossie, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I yesterday Googled Spencer Pratt politics. Because I was like, so, so okay there was a headline where orange county officially flipped blue where they're now in orange county which is like a long time it was like the socal republican stronghold yeah yeah and it's also that's why it's like the

scariest place to drive because of all of the rich people and the Republicans. But they flipped blue, and I was like, wow, is this the end of an OC era? And I was thinking of the heroes and the titans of the Orange County, and I was thinking of Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag. But is Spencer from Orange County? I mean, they were in the hills. Oh, shit. I guess I don't know. Yeah, I mean, look, I'm from LA, so I'm very particular.

You know, Spencer Pratt might be our trash, not Orange County's. And that's, honestly, that's on me. But what are are his politics because I know everyone uh forget who it was Steve Hernandez I think was the one saying that the new hills is like a really interesting take on like these people's friendships as they become adults and like there's a lot of it's not just sort of what he was saying not just vapid reality show which to me turned me off because I'm only there for the emptiness. The petty. The garbage, if you will. Yeah. But I wasn't sure

if you'd seen the show and there was something from the show, but you were just curious. Yeah, yeah. Well, I did come into the Laguna Beach franchise at the Hills.

So, yeah. And then I went back and watched Laguna Beach, which was subtitled as the real OC. So it's this massive world to me. But very quick Google search, I found out that they are both Republicans, Heidi and Spencer. Guna Beach, which was subtitled as the real OC. So it's this massive world to me. But very quick Google search, I found out that they are both Republicans, Heidi and Spencer.

And it's just like, I think that's what I knew I was. Yeah. That's the result I was expecting to get. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, what if I was like, there's a world where like Spencer Pratt is like a huge Bernie supporter or something like that. They could be.

Right. I mean, I thought he was into crystals. It's weird. He has a lot of the cultural totems. Yeah. Of like a liberal. Right. But of course, baby, with that face.

Yeah. And you're dwindling bank account. Of course. I mean, Spencer Pratt contains multitudes. I was like, maybe he's got this textured, nuanced approach. He might actually be one of those people who's like, look, I'm a libertarian. You're like, OK. Yeah.

That wouldn't surprise on i will say on this google search i did do the thing where they like give you that window of the first search result and then it's like a paragraph in quotes oh sure yeah and it just said spencer pat republican and i did not click on it so i i don't want to minimize yeah he has some complexities he might in his political lean and that might be an old article you know yeah maybe if you actually did some googling you'd see that he has some complexities in his political leanings. And that might be an old article, you know? Yeah. Maybe if you actually did some Googling, you'd see that he is a full-on Elizabeth Warren freak. Yeah, maybe he expressed a lot of remorse after the 2016 election and really got his boots on the ground.

Actually, no, he would be Yang Gang. What am I saying? Oh, no, he would be Marianne Williamson. Oh, yeah. Because he likes that crunchy crystal shit. You know what I mean? He doesn't believe in vaccinations. I'm sure.

Hey, man, it's their it's their choice, man. These kids get hurt. You know what I mean? Yeah. These parents are freaked out, man. Yeah. Yeah. That's very sympathetic.

Yeah. What's something that's overrated? OK, so this is maybe one of my most unpopular opinions and I have a lot of bad opinions, but I think Magic mike xxl is overrated and i know it's like weird to be coming out now in 2019 i have no i don't have no idea okay okay so magic mike is xxl is a sequel to the first magic mike i have to say i've oh where they go to vegas for like this the yeah it's a road trip comedy, ensemble male comedy. And what I, so I watched this New Year's Eve 2015, first hour of 2016, because I was like,

everyone likes this movie. I want to start my year off right with something I know will be a hit. And like what I watched was just like so demoralizing because it was pitched to me as like oh it's like finally like it's empowering to women to like have this sexuality on display and like the female gaze yes yeah yeah yeah and like the female gaze and like oh it's just like fun and it's for women and everything but like i think it's trash i haven't seen the first magic mike uh but like what i watched sucked because first of all i don't like steven soderbergh and i think that that's that makes me i just haven't found what i like from him yet i find his style very smarmy and i think he did

the cinematography in magic mike xxl and there's like literally a scene where channing tatum and amber heard are lit by it seems like like, Chevy or Dodge Durango headlights. And I'm like, you cannot see them at all. And I'm like, is this good? Like, I'm watching this. Maybe my TV is too dark. It's real is what it is. It's real.

And also, there are no women behind the camera. There might be one female producer, but it's directed, written, shot, et cetera. Even the costumes are done by a man. There's a female who's the head of makeup, but everything else... Wow, you really did a fucking analysis. Okay, so it's catering to the straight female gaze, but it's still all created by men. But it's still in the guise of men, because people are like... And then the characters are constantly talking about how they're healers.

And women have tough days. And that's why we got to jackhammer our dicks in their face. Yeah. Because that is the climax of every single lap dance in that movie. It ends up with either one or two of the men jackhammering their dicks in the face of a woman while they go like ah just pumping wow yeah yeah this is what women like right yeah and it's like oh was your manager an asshole harassing you how about my fucking dick in your face yeah then like two there are two i think really bad scenes and one is where donald glover and matt bomer in a scene that's shot like by like cop style dash cam like like cup like dual coverage angle dash cams they're like doing an improvised 12 minute dialogue of

them pretending to be unsuccessful and talking about breaking into the industry and so it's like matt bomer and don Donald Glover earnestly being like yeah I mean like and like Donald Glover's like yeah I mean like I want to do this music thing but like I don't know like maybe my voice just isn't meant to be heard it's like and then Matt Bomer's like I've been trying to act for for a while and I'm just waiting for that one audition but man maybe I'm just meant to be a dancer the rest of my life oh boy it's so self-indulgent it made me stop being a Donald Glover fan for like like two minutes two minutes yeah it was really hard the next thing came out you're like okay I was like oh no I can't listen

to freaks and geeks wait I have a question yeah uh you said you watched it at the end of 2015 into like yeah so it was technically 2016 did you time it so that like when the ball would be dropping the pants would be dropping if i had maybe okay okay bad maybe i would have liked it more do you know the origin story of magic mike caitlin not really i remember i've seen both them. I remember being pretty underwhelmed by, especially I would say double. The only thing I remember, honestly,

from either of the movies is Channing Tatum, like fucking a table saw or whatever. I will say the best. That's called art. The best scene. Like to point to genuine's pony. Yes. Oh yeah.

I sometimes just watch that on YouTube. It's funny. I asked you that because I was trying to set you up for that bit you do or you're gonna say Mike was not bit by a magic spider do you know the origin story of magic Mike well um in theory hopefully if it was a good movie, it would be about a Mike that was bitten by a radioactive magic, I guess. Magic Johnson? I don't know. Oh, wow.

Yeah, wow. Okay. Michael Jordan. But it is not about that. Oh, okay. It's about the interest. So therefore, it's not a good movie. I just like the last scene where, wow, you want to talk about body rolls.

You want to just roll your body to something. That final dance. Yeah. Okay. Now, what is something that is underrated? Let's see. Underrated, I have... Okay.

So I think that the system, the Nintendo DS, is underrated as a gaming system. Wow. And I think it often gets called just for babies. And that's because Nintendogs is one of the best games on it, where you just pet and bathe and feed dogs. Wow. And throw them Frisbees. Uh-huh. But actually, there're really good adult games

like Phoenix Wright, Attorney at Law, and also you can play Game Boy Advance cartridges on it. Wait, there's an attorney-based game? Yeah. Where you have to like... This is all definitely... You go to court? So I'm projecting right now.

I don't want to buy a Nintendo Switch because it's expensive, but I do still have my nintendo so you're just trying to rationalize like this is still actually yeah it's actually a really good system and um yeah there's this attorney game where you're just like it's really sexist actually like all the women are all the women characters are like no they're all like stupid or horny and women are that way so as a stupid horny person i do relate and see myself in the character but but uh yeah there's a my my former boss recommended this ds game to me and i

finally got around to playing it yesterday and i was like okay maybe i'm a big ds girl now wow i also think that the nintendo ds is cool because the the DS just stands for dual screen because it has two screens. Oh, that's the one that flips up. Yeah, yeah. Dual screen. Bottom one's a touchscreen. Wow. I'm saying specifically the oldest model of it is good because it's the one I have and I don't want to buy a new one.

I like underrated just like using this as a time to rationalize that you may have something obsolete but like no it's actually really chill also like I don't know if you guys ever had Gameboys or Gameboy Advance or anything like that but like Nintendo products are undestructible I think of like and indestructible and oh fuck I'm sorry you cannot distract

I'm being my 6th grade English teacher Mrs. Schultz who would be like oh is that similar to this word I feel small and I'm 12 this sixth grade English teacher, Mrs. Schultz, who would be like, oh, is that similar to this word? I feel small and I'm 12. This isn't good for my enthusiasm to learn. Yeah, there is something about like the first game. I had the gray one. That was the very first chunky one.

I couldn't tell you how many times I fucking dropped from like 30 feet in the air. It's a brand that's meant to be like hurled out of a suburban window right i'm like uh on a freeway like i sometimes like i'll really get uh carried away thinking like what if nintendo went the apple route and got into the smartphone game because i think a nintendo smart no cracked screens and more Yeah. And it would last forever. And I think that like they have such high respect right now that I think that they could actually challenge the iPhone. Wow. Because like you watch an old reality show and you're like, it's crazy.

It's like there's Envys on there. There's chocolates on there. There's all these competing cell phones. Remember when cell phones were cool? Is that the LG? Wasn't LG chocolate? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh my God. I almost- The rumor. Yeah. The razor. The razor. I had a razor.

I had a- Blackberry curve. I had an NV. You had the NV? You had an NV? Yeah. Wow. Okay.

And that Motorola one that was supposed to be Blackberry? And screens used to flip up and slide. The sidekick. Oh, the whole everything. Oh. Yes. I'm like- Simpler times. Sometimes i yearn for that

because yeah look just tape an old cell phone to the back of your ds and you're good and then i will look awesome on the subway yeah and i'm like doing business calls yeah you're like uh yes look at my phone i do want to toast it yeah twice and then i'm gonna do all my business calls at the subway where business happens. Exactly. Finally, what's a myth, Jossie? What's something that people just get wrong? Yeah. So I grew up my whole life thinking that birds were the lamest animals.

Yeah. Especially pet birds. I didn't understand the allure of parakeets. All birds. Cockatiels. Cockatoos. They all seemed like rats of the sky. Sky rats. Yeah.

Yeah. Truly, I also thought of the sky. Sky rats. Yeah. Yeah. Truly, I... And I also thought people who liked birds were lame. Like, if you're a bird person... You're like... I'm guilty of that as well. You're a bird person? No, I'm saying I'm guilty of...

Judging the birders. Of having thought that. Right? Like, if you're, like, cat or dog and someone's like, can I say bird? You're like... You're like, really? You want something that's going to ruin us watching TV for every fucking eight minutes? You're like, really?

You want something that's going to ruin us watching TV for every fucking eight minutes? But I recently went two hours out of Los Angeles to a place called Ostrich Land USA. What? And it is this massive, like, open, plain area with a fence. And it just has dozens upon hundreds of ostriches, which I learned are the only bird that has three toes. And when they say toes- Like a T-Rex. When they say toes, yeah. Like a reptile.

Here is the thing. Bloody Vilsa reptile. All birds are dinosaurs, and all dinosaurs are birds. I've seen Jurassic Park a hundred times. Yeah, when you feed an ostrich, it is terrifying because that's what you do. You pay, first of all, it's like only $5 to get in.

To get your hand bitten off. Do you go? And $1 to buy a little plate of food that's literally in like a dustpan. It's like a broom, heavy duty broom dustpan. One food, please. Yeah, here's a dustpan with some turds in it. A circle where like pellets uh or like a bowl of pellets are and they're like okay you have to grasp it by two hands extend your entire arms

and then like the ostriches first of all their necks are hoses of muscle and they like they can go under things they can like wiggle under the fence and poke their... And it's a four-foot-long neck. These things are terrifying and also amazing. I'm in awe of them. So you learn to love the bird. Yeah, and then they peck with the speed and the sound of a staple gun. That's how they eat. They just pierce and attack and bite, and that's how they eat the pellets. What's it smell like?

You know, not as bad as you'd think. In my mind, a bird just smells like shit. Especially a huge bird like that. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, this thing smells like absolute shit. I don't know how those feathers, like they just feel like sponges for odor. Yeah, I would not touch any of these birds. And then so on one- I would not touch them.

I respect them now, but I will never touch them. On one end, they have ostriches, which also have long, beautiful eyelashes like cartoon female cats or something. Truly beautiful eyes. On the other side, they have emus, which just are raptors. Emus are high,

if not taller. They have these crazy predator eyes. What do we need to do to address this threat? From what I'm hearing. I think- Threat to national security. What I'm saying is that birds will long outlive us and have already lived way earlier than us.

So we need to respect them. I think we need to respect the birds a little more. Well, what do you think now of a bird person? Because before you're like, I'm a fucking bird person. Now in your new 2019 outlook. Yeah. Well, is it bad if I still don't like

bird people well what is it about a bird person you think is they're not someone's not sitting right I think like you know

bird it's just bird people are a little kinky I think I think you know so you're a little too vanilla yeah I think

I'm too vanilla to be a bird person and so like it's not even that they are bad it's just that like I haven't challenged myself I'm intimidated by someone who knows when they're a child that they're a bird person right when you have these options of like furry cat soft dog scary bird like I'm all about these feathers yeah yeah so I think it's like a thing where it's like in 2019 I've learned this valuable lesson and maybe in 2020 I can like I can like grow inwardly if this is a rom-com your destiny is to be with a bird person yeah yeah so I'm or a fucking emu I don't

know which one this can be or that one of those uh yeah ostriches like I want to see like Godzilla King of Monsters style movies but with birds. When you go to this ostrich farm, does Sam Neill come out with an ostrich claw and he's like, this is gonna slice you across your belly, spilling your intestines. And everyone's like, And you have to be that loud mouth kid.

Just like a big turkey. Like, oh yeah, motherfucker. I heard in the original script, he actually slashes his belly open with a raptor claw. Spilling his intestines. Yeah, and just eviscerates him. And everyone's like, oh, my God. And Jeff Goldblum ends up just taking over the door.

Yeah. Anyway. It's just one of the many eviscerating scenes left on Spielberg's cutting room floor. Yeah, exactly. Actually, he cuts a lot of body horror scenes. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird. Huh. Huh. He oh he loves little boys journeys and body horror and evisceration by a thousand claws all right let's take a quick break and we're gonna be right back

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.

I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.

She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season

will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.

What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Hi. How was everybody during that break? Really good, yeah.

Okay, great. Yeah, I really explored myself. I took a sip of peach pear LaCroix. Good flavor. Yeah, good flavor. Good flavor. They're on their way down, it seems like, as a company. LaCroix is?

Yeah, their earnings are falling. They have challengers that are cheaper? Well, that and they're just, you know, people caught on. They're like, wait, people just like flavor bullshit in the sparkling water so easy right now everyone's like oh here's ours oh you just take water and inject essence of flavor yes exactly um so something i wanted to talk about um to switch gears a bit to not lighter fare heavier fare is there was a really big ice raid in Mississippi on Wednesday, a historic raid. And they say that because they picked up 680 workers in a single day across seven food processing plants in six cities.

And predictably, most of these people were Hispanic workers who were undocumented. These weren't people who were like running away. They had addresses. There was a lot of people were like, why this version of rounding people up on the first day of school also? So there were a few kids who finished the day finding out that their parents were in custody. I think as of right now, about half had been released while like the other 350 or so are still in custody. But it's just one of these, you know, just strange timing, right? Because just as Trump was in El Paso consoling people, or quote unquote,

or the consoling the victims of a racially motivated terrorist attack, you just have, you know, Gestapo 2.0 rounding people up. And again, like these ICE raids that are obviously meant to terrify undocumented people are nothing new. But a lot of the activists that are involved with workers in these processing plants and just general immigration activists have pointed out like a little bit of a coincidence with the timing of certain raids. foods, somehow completely unrelated to Coke Industries, somehow, because I was like, of course. Of course they'd be in the food processing game. Somehow is the one thing that's just some other people who are exploiting immigrant labor. They had basically been hit with just substantial legal trouble just a year ago.

So in 2018, there was a nearly eight-year-long legal battle with this company. They had to settle for $3.75 million that was brought by the Federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission because there was allegations that supervisors at this plant were engaging in sexual harassment and racial harassment of the female workers at this plant. Specifically, these allegations were about supervisors were touching and were making sexually suggestive comments to these female employees, hit Hispanic employees, and charged many of them money for normal everyday work activities. So this was just off the walls bullshit. And then at some point, there was a consent decree. They had to set up a 24-hour hotline for workers to be able to make complaints about their treatment. set up a 24-hour hotline for workers to be able to make complaints about their treatment. And then, boom, this is one of the raids that gets hit. Now, that was a year, like a long time had passed. But in June of last year, there was another sort of similar raid at a meatpacking plant in Salem,

Ohio, where ICE raided this place, the Freshmark Meatpacking Plant, and they arrested 140 workers. A week before that raid, OSHA, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, fined this company $211,194 for three different incidents where they said there were not proper guards for dangerous machinery. And eventually that resulted in the death of one undocumented worker whose leg got caught in a rotating auger and bled to death oh my god and then boom a raid happened so a lot of these people are saying like this is something they've seen before where there was another plant too where a banker anonymously called and said i think they're undocumented people working at this plant. Now, based on what?

Like, I think because they just know and whether that whether or not that's a way to indirectly retaliate for these people saying like, because that's sort of the power dynamic. Right. It's like you shouldn't we shouldn't be hiring you, but we're we're we're hiring you. Yeah. And part of that is going to be we will be a team player, which means just ignore the abuse. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And what you can get. Right. is going to be, we will treat you, which means just ignore the abuse that's happening. Yeah, exactly. Take what you can get. Right. And so the U.S. attorneys that was announcing, oh, this is a record raid on undocumented people, they're saying, this is a message to the people who employ these people also,

we're also going to get you. But as of right now, a lot of the reports said neither of these companies in Mississippi didn't have any specific legal jeopardy they were in. And sometimes these companies will cut a deal with ICE to say, OK, look, if we tell you we have these undocumented people who do a raid, will you be more lenient on us for hiring them? And I think that's just really fucked up because really the massive amounts of penalties need to be going against these companies that are even engaging in this, which is creating this like to exploit the labor and then be able to hide behind their undocumented status to abuse them is absurd. And the fact that even these companies can cut deals for breaking the law in order to subject these people to like whatever the fuck's going to happen. I mean, we heard about someone who was in ICE detention, who was deported to a country they had never even been to and then had died as a result because they weren't getting their medication.

This is just sort of like the situation that all this is swirling around. And it's all meant to terrorize these people. And I yeah, this is just kind of this is all becoming far too normal. And, you know, while a lot of these companies want to say like, oh, there's there's no relationship between these raids happening and like the abuse they're reporting. It doesn't look good. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like the labor abuse narratives of these like massive companies are so it's like Upton Sinclair's the jungle and right it's like what what's going to be the story that finally gets people to sympathize with this like really fucked up relationship there were some people who were being interviewed that were like

in the town and they were saying like somebody like you know the narrative of like immigrants are taking our jobs it wasn't that big to some people and I don't know, you know, the narrative of like immigrants are taking our jobs wasn't that big to some people. And I don't know how liberal this person was and may have been looking through the rosiest lenses or even a conservative who's in denial about the racism that might be present in their community. But they were saying that they did realize like when they saw people like whose kids were going to school with their kids completely distraught over the fact that their parents had been ripped away. Like that seemed to connect with some people because I think on some level, right, like if you if you're any parent, you would never think like, hey, do you want your kids to suffer for a decision you made? I don't think any parent would ever be like, yeah, that's on my kid.

And I think to see kids sort of have to bear the brunt of that maybe knocked some screws. But again, it doesn't seem like it because too many people are really invested in this demonization of immigrants to this country. Yeah. And also, if you just think of like the deportation of like hundreds and hundreds of people with families and everything, that's just like a devastation that's going like that causes trauma for decades and decades yeah and this is a thing that i'm also worried about with the violence that's going on and these kinds of raids like this is this trauma that they're causing can manifest into something much darker down the road when you have these victims of this kind of direct yeah like sort of terroristic treatment where they're constantly saying like, oh, this government has been treating me like a subhuman. Yeah. Ripping my family apart with no care for my humanity.

People can get radicalized in the other direction. Totally. You know, like, and that's really something that's ignored. It's always like, well, what's the cost? It costs $180 to detain people. There's also a really significant psychological emotional toll this takes on many people so yeah uh it can't just be sort of you know measured in facts and figures and numbers like that and i wish it like we're like even surprising that the companies are working with

the government to reduce their sanctions but like yeah that's just like no right no at this point well and this is why we need actual immigration reform. Totally. And also, like, clearly there's a need for this kind of labor. Then why not find a way for these people to become American citizens? Right. I mean, and that's part of the narrative, which is that, you know, immigrants come to this country for better opportunities for themselves and probably more often than not their children. And they are forced generally into these undesirable unsafe jobs and horrible working conditions and then they can't even do that because of these raids and like it was funny on one i think it was on msnbc or so someone was like oh so now that these plants

got raided are a bunch of american people lining up to work there and they're like no no no and they're like oh so that'll probably be another cut. They're truly just going to like shift over to another base of undocumented workers or something like, like the companies don't care about American jobs. They're like, who can we exploit? Well, right. It's the same reason. Who can we underpay and put in these awful working conditions?

Well, it's like, well, if it's not here, then let's build the factory where those people are. Yeah. Because it's not here. condition it's like well if it's not here then let's build the factory where those people are yeah because it's not here uh moving on to uh you know the awesome stuff that's happening in this country um fucker carlson was you know he made waves earlier this week because you know the el paso shooting was a white nationalist white supremacist terror attack and we saw republicans and conservatives doing all kinds

of mental gymnastics to try and be like nope i'm neo in the matrix because i don't i won't let reality touch me right now and trying to argue all these things what the problem is what the problem isn't is it video games yeah is it drag queen advocates wow as that one woman said yeah she said drag queen advocates. Huh? Huh? Oh, they're reading stories to our kids. First of all. Drag queen advocate. Am I a drag queen advocate because I will give a dollar at a show?

I'm a drag queen advocate all the fucking way. Yeah. And financially, I'm investing in the drag queen community. Drag queens will bring joy into your life. Yes. Debra. Debra. So, Tucker Carlson decided to get on his fucking soapbox and just absolutely shit out of his mouth. But the whole thing is a lie.

If you were to assemble a list, a hierarchy of concerns or problems this country faces, where would white supremacy be on the list? Right up there with Russia, probably. It's actually not a real problem in America. The combined membership of every white supremacist organization in this country, were they able to fit inside a college football stadium? I mean, seriously. This is a country where the average person is getting poorer,

where the suicide rate is spiking. White supremacy, that's the problem. This is a hoax. Just like the Russia hoax. It's a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power. That's exactly what's going on. Okay. Thanks.

Thanks for that amazing insight into racial relations in this country. I mean, he does point to a couple of things. Yes, the suicide rate is very high, especially for white men. And there is a lot of sociologists are looking into it. And as we see constantly, constantly right the perceived power of white men is waning so there is this you know by any means necessary grab to last ditch effort to hold on to power and i talked about this i think maybe on monday but the logical next step for people who do not feel powerful is to regain control or a sense of power through destruction.

And this is what we're seeing through suicide rates or even where we see a lot of these shootings where you have like, you know, people who are these like either doing crimes because or these mass shootings out of misogyny. Right. And they're sort of part of this like incel mentality or white supremacy. They're all born out of this thing of like, my powers, now I must destroy. That's true, Tucker. And that's actually what this problem is.

Well, yeah. No, it's like he's saying like, the basement isn't flooding. My pants are just wet. Like he's like saying all these reasons that are so- And they're not connected. He's like, but look at your feet. You're standing in three feet of water. Yeah.

Yeah, but I feel my wet pants. It's not the flood I'm worried about. They're so connected to me. So after this, right, then on Wednesday, he doubled down and was like, you know,

this is going to lead to a civil war. That's a good Tucker Carlson, honestly. I mean, you just got to be whiny. Yeah. And everything is bad. And, you know, this is the kind of talk

that's going to lead the country to destruction. You're materializing a bow tie right now. Yeah, thank you. Somehow. And after that rant, like at the end of his episode, he's like, I will be taking a vacation. I'm going to be going to, he said something like, I'm going to go to the mountains to fish with my son.

And sometimes politics isn't everything. And sometimes fishing with your son needs to be. That's so funny. And I was planning this the whole time. It's not because I fucking do what Fox News does, which is just be a mouthpiece for white supremacy. Right. But again, he did it to the point where, as we've seen time and time again, that money is the only thing that fucking talks with Fox News, because these like fucking, quote unquote, planned vacations happen every time one of their fucking shithead anchors goes,

shoots off at the mouth of something. Bill O'Reilly did that. He suddenly went on vacation right before he got the fucking ax over all of his sexual harassment. Laura Ingram had to go to the fucking woods for a little bit after she came after David Hogue about like not getting into college and people like, what the fuck is like? And you know,

what happened was advertisers started bailing and then they're like go on vacation yeah right and maybe we can get these people back so again we say fuck fox news for a reason it's because they are constantly putting these messages out there that are poisoning people's minds and like we've said in the past and even yesterday it's never too late to come back okay i understand if you are digesting a fucking it's the same thing if i heard nickelback my whole life and nothing else i might think nickelback was the greatest band of all time you know what that's a bad example because nickelback is the greatest band objectively let me switch they have hits for a if it's worth saving me. Prison gates won't open up for me. On these hands in the...

Okay, that's not the point. The versatility of your singing voice, Miles. Yeah, okay. I didn't even get to comment on the falsetto at the top of the episode. Oh my God. This is about my voice. Somehow it's about white supremacy.

You're about to get discovered if you keep singing like this. A star is born if chad goes down look hit me up guys i can tit the road chad goes down oh yeah he's invincible oh yeah um but again it's this whole idea that if this is your media diet this is fucking you up and this is the fucking terrible thing about fox news and if you look at the advertisers right a lot of people do wake up when this happens because people the outrage is enough that people are full-throatedly saying, I'm not going to. Are you kidding me?

This is where you're advertising on this show. You're choosing to, you know, support this kind of message. When people get on the phones or actually just stop buying shit, they're like, okay, we're out. Many companies wake up. I do just want to still call out these motherfuckers that are still advertising despite everything Tucker Carlson is saying. Yeah, let me know who to boycott. Well, yeah. Half the time, though, I'm like, OK, yeah, I don't really use any of these shit. My pillow.

The my pillow guy. What? Wow. Yeah, I know what that is. This guy is horrible. He is so in for Trump. He's an infomercial king. And recovering crack addict.

Yeah. So he's got this crazy narrative. He says that he has the best pillow. And the pillow has this, like, the packet. My mom caught me on my pillow for Christmas. Did you burn it? Yeah. No.

Yep. Uh-huh. It is, like, stuffed in my closet because it's, like, too small of a. It's a small pillow? It's a pillow a little larger than the size of a Kleenex box. And it can't buy pillowcases for it. It's too fucking tiny. It's like it's a small pillow it's a pillow a little larger than the size of a Kleenex box and it can't buy pillowcases for it it's too fucking tiny

it's in the back of my closet that's what my pillow is doing also weather tech if you know they do like interior carpet

protection like the plastic I think that's more for people who have like snow and rainy conditions where you're bringing shit in your car

so far these are extremely targeted to the Fox News viewers Hello Fresh okay podcast supporters now if this where you're bringing shit in your car. So far, these are extremely targeted to the Fox News viewers. HelloFresh. Okay. Podcast supporters. Now, if this, I think they're based in Germany. But anyway, I don't know.

They are still advertising. Sandals Resorts. Come on. Nobody's going to, I mean. Yeah. Please don't go to Sandals. Zona Health. They sell medical devices for the treatment of hypertension.

Okay? Okay. Wesley. Okay. Wesley Financial Group, consumer rights group that specializes in timeshare cancellations. So a scam for a scam. Fuck, I use them every day. How am I going to get rid of the use of this? I keep getting fooled into buying timeshares. And a for-profit cancer treatment center.

Oh, awesome. But it's interesting because when you look at the people who have jumped ship, it's a pretty impressive list. I mean, not that it's impressive. It's more that they're like, oh yeah, yeah. Money's our God. Not, we don't have morals. We have money concerns.

So this is what we're doing. So yeah, please keep your eye on those companies. And this is just sort of, again, one of the reasons why fox is so so fucked up um they really have no interest in any kind of reasonable discourse they're just there to be a propaganda wing for the the hate that lives on the right yes um one thing i do want to bring up too is look donald trump has been failing on so many levels from a foreign policy position obviously uh north korea is still doing nuclear tests and he's like yeah but they're like the ones from Donald Trump has been failing on so many levels from a foreign policy position, obviously. North Korea is still doing nuclear tests.

And he's like, yeah, but they're like the ones from before. So it's all good. Even though he was like, no, Kim Jong-un is my best friend. I don't know if y'all saw. We were like hugging in North Korea. Everything's good. But he's still not listening to me. And actually, there's absolutely no respect.

Then the trade war, right? They're escalating tariffs. They labeled China currency manipulator. And then China really hit a body blow of the US this week when they basically said, we're suspending all imports of United States agricultural goods into this country. That is fucking huge because that is a huge market for the farmers of this country and the certain crops that they grow. And now basically seeding ground to like with one of the largest agricultural trade partners to like Russia and Brazil and being like, oh, now that that's that's a dimension of trade that I don't know where they're going to come back from that. And I don't think there's any level of farm subsidies that

Trump can pay these farmers with that are going to be like, yeah, but I need to sell this shit. I get that you're paying me for the loss on this, but like I exist to create these crops to sell them. And that's how I exist. I don't want to do this. Um, so we're already like so heavily subsidizing the American farmer and like, like the American farmer has one of the highest suicide rates of any occupation.

Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a dire situation because it's a, it's a, Farmer has one of the highest suicide rates of any occupation. Oh, I didn't realize that. Yeah, yeah. It's a dire situation. I mean, it makes sense because it is an occupation that's so born out of, like, literally your productivity and, like, growing things. I mean, like, yes, this is it. Yeah. Now I can take it to market. And when you can't do that, I mean, like, yeah.

Yeah, because climates are more volatile. already challenged because climates are more volatile like so their yields are varying wildly because weather's behaving like it's never behaved before already yeah like in and i mean not to toot the iowa horn but in iowa we had both like the hottest and coldest day ever in the past year in this last calendar last calendar in 2019 so far. There is both like the coldest day. It's ever been in the hottest day. What's the hottest day ever in Iowa? I think, God, maybe it was like 100, 115 or something. Oh my, wow.

But wait, don't quote me though, because I read this on Twitter like two weeks ago. Hottest day in Iowa. Yeah, do that, do that. 115. Wow. I am like, oh my God. Wow, straight that, do that. 115. Wow, I am like, oh my God. Wow, straight from

KCRG.com. What channel is KCRG? Oh God, I have no clue. I was a KCCI viewer myself. Oh, maybe different market. Yeah, maybe different market. Okay, we're going to take a quick break and be right back to talk actually more about Iowa. right back to talk actually more about Iowa.

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oh yeah um and just you know and the government itself donald trump basically famously got the support of many farmers by being like you know what it's washington's fault this is all fucked up and i'm gonna you know whatever drain. Every four years people care about Iowa. Yeah, right. Because of the caucuses. And then with the Iowa State Fair kicking off on Thursday, so many candidates were there being like, hey, I'm going to shake fucking every fucking hand I think that I can. The Iowa State Fair is always a delight to go to. It's always a wonderful cross section of Iowa humanity.

But especially during election years, it is like... What's it like? You're just going to see every candidate eat a corn dog and then wear jeans and shake hands with people wearing John Deere hats. Everyone has to wear jeans. Yeah, yeah. Some politicians have really gotten got with action shots of eating corn dogs. Is there ever a bad move a politician could do at the Iowa State Fair? Oh, yeah.

I mean, like taboo. I feel like I feel like if you're if you said what's up, Idaho, like if you refuse to eat any of the food, I feel like that would come across poorly. But are there moments where they're like, hi, here's a, you know, cholesterol. I'm sure they're like, I'm sure they're like, here's a deep fried pork fat spoonful. And you're like, oh, I don't know. Oh, really? You have to really roll up your sleeves.

I feel like every, especially the male candidates, they're all wearing jeans and a button up with the rolled up sleeves. Got to. Yeah. Got to. Well, yeah. I mean, a lot of people have been talking about how important rural states are, especially, obviously, for the votes. But when you also look at how the economy is shifting, too, Elizabeth Warren, she has a plan, obviously, for the rural states.

That involves all kinds of like just sort of revolutionizing the kind of industries that are happening in those areas because a lot of manufacturing jobs have left. And, you know, like you said said it's the caucuses baby uh but before we it's this this segment isn't about that okay it's about the iowa state fair because i love food i love food that is notoriously terrible for your body because to me it's all mind over matter in certain aspects i guess if in my mind this corner dog will clear up my asthma, then it might. I have no proof for that, but I will continue to believe it. And the Iowa State Fair, they released a guide about their new food. Now, we always talk about fair food because it's just a thing for me growing up in L.A. Didn't fucking have it.

The L.A. County Fair is a tragedy. Oh, no. What is it? The LA County Fair is a tragedy. Oh no. What is it? Granola and- It's fucking lame. It's just like- Avocado and- Soy based-

Vegan lattes. Well, I don't know. Last time I went, last time I went, to be honest, it was like 96. Sure. And it was just like,

you know, go see the, the Us Three perform Candle Loop Island. Great song. If you're lucky, you'll get a funnel cake. Yeah, exactly. And like the food was just sort of like, you know, run of the mill carnival food. Standard issue, yeah. us three perform cantaloupe island um if you're lucky you'll get a funnel cake yeah exactly and

like the food was just sort of like you know run-of-the-mill standard issue yeah iowa has a fucking proper culture we're pushing the boundaries sometimes inhumanely like creating things that are questionably edible right so i i printed out some of the new food items uh for us to look at and i just you know i wanted to bring up a couple things maybe get some of your insights food items for us to look at. And I just, you know, I wanted to bring up a couple of things, maybe get some of your insight, Joss,

Sienna, Caitlin, a few things immediately caught your eye on some of the foods. And this is a segment called somebody, please buy me a ticket to Iowa so I can come to the fair. How much, first of all, how much does it cost to get in the fair?

I think, I think it's like a $21 ticket. Okay. And that gets you, that gets you, it's a massive, the Iowa state fairgrounds are massive. They's like a $21 ticket Okay and that gets you That gets you It's a massive The Iowa State Fairgrounds are massive They're like an amusement park level

And they have I mean there's outdoor music There's the Bill Reilly's Talent Competition Where children all across Iowa Flock to tap dance Did Ashton Kutcher ever participate in that? I cannot say with good authority I feel like a tap dancing 12-year-old wins every year.

Damn. Are there rides? There are rides. You have to pay for the rides. Wait, the $21 doesn't even get you admission to the rides? No, you have to pay extra. I mean, you've got to come with singles strapped to you. Last time I went to the Iowa State Fair, I paid $2 to see the world's smallest horse.

And it was just like a baby horse. You couldn't just peep it from a few feet away? It was like world's smallest horse and world's biggest pig. And it was in a tent. Were they the same size? Was it Hobzilla? B.T. Barnum style. It was like you go in and you're like, oh, yeah, I just got tricked.

Right, right. Behold, the cat born with the head of a horse and the body of a horse. But what is free that is as fun as like a rickety old just built yesterday roller coaster is like there are like pig competitions and like horse competitions, and you get to see all these strong-braided rural Iowans who grew up with horses come and do tricks and show off their- Dressage, even? Yeah, yeah, and groom their horses. Okay. And you can walk through there.

There's varied industries building where you can put your hands in hot tubs. What do you mean, hot tubs? It's like all of the hot tub salesmen from all across the state bring all their hot tub models and try to get you to buy a hot tub like at the fair and you see like boomers like signing papers like they're like buying hot tubs there's also like like outdoor play sets like all of these like big purchase items they all live in the the varied industries what's the most expensive thing you could buy at the ferry thing? God, I mean.

If it's not a hot tub, well like a house. You know what is amazing is that there's this lot of RVs and it's like every model of fancy RVs. So you can walk in, you can do like, it's like open house. So you walk through them. They have like three bedrooms that you like click a bedroom or click a button on a remote and they like expand out and so i think like if you're going to the state fair and buying an rv like that's the most baller shit you could yeah you're balling up for sure yeah okay great so this is what we need to do yeah go there buy a fucking rv and a hot tub and then you just live there and then see the

world's smallest horse yeah yeah i see that tiny horse it's just a baby. That's like the, at Parks and Rec, what was the little, the Sebastian Festival? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Lil' Sebastian died. Oh, don't tell me that. In the show, right? Oh, in the show, but not in real life. Oh yeah, they did a memorial.

Who knows? And I will say, I've seen the best concert I've ever seen at the Iowa State Fair and it was Jason Derulo. Jason Derulo! And my favorite thing

about that concert is first of all, you can buy like these 32 ounce beers at the Iowa State Fair or concert is, first of all, you can buy these 32-ounce beers at the Iowa State Fair or 32-ounce margaritas. You can get truly trashed. Truly trashed at the Iowa State Fair. And I do recommend it because you're in this weird no man's land society. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you can just wander around, see a horse, et cetera, and pet a pig. Oh, and milk a cow. You can milk a cow there. Wow. and pet a pig oh and milk a cow you can milk a cow there wow okay but uh my favorite thing about jason devulo is that he during a song before a dance break ripped off his shirt yes danced went off stage came back in a different shirt and then just immediately ripped it off again he just wanted to get two shirt takeoff moments in the same song wow and i was like i was like in the audience i was like i don't even feel pandered to you like

this is exactly why yeah you're like i just saw the world's biggest fucking pig yeah take off your shirt i am a king entertain me yeah okay so let's talk about some of the food that kings like jason derulo can eat there of course off the top i just want to point out a couple things that i saw one is called a chicken parmesan stick what the fuck it says italian seasoned waffle that is baked around chicken breast covered in marinara sprinkled with parmesan is served on a stick i have never heard of a waffle covered chicken breast constituting the chicken parm and welcome to 2019 it's only six dollars the prices on these are very reasonable yeah i mean that's what i'm saying saying. It's like you have to pay more money once you're in the fair to really maximize your experience.

But for $6 for a chicken parm stick? I'm in. Yeah, why wouldn't you be? Caitlin, what caught your eye? The first thing I saw was the fried avocado slices. That seems pretty... That feels so interesting to me. That is like...

$7. $7. That's more than a chicken parm stick i'm telling you avocado avocado is a rarity in the midwest i think it's like yeah yeah uh i feel like that is every once in a while they do a pandered fry fried food or stick food to like a healthy audience well this is probably the healthiest thing on the menu and it's like well no there's there's apple slices for $3. That seems just very reasonable. Apple slices

with honey and peanut butter. Directly above that is apple nachos which is nacho chips covered with cinnamon sugar and topped with apple filling, caramel whipped cream and crushed red hots. That sounds absurd but I'm guessing that red hots is like a cinnamon candy,

right? Yeah. Oh, it's just weird to think of like a tortilla chip with apples, but I guess you can get cinnamon candy. But see, this is why we have to go beyond our boundaries. So we no longer look at bird people as kinkier than us and people we can embrace. We got to expand our viewpoints to include redhots. Yeah. Also shout out bird people if you are kinky let us know on twitter i want to know if she's on to something this is a true cross-section she'll be like yeah they'll be like oh you ever fuck a bird person clearly not then we wouldn't be having this conversation yeah exactly well the thing about this menu is that i think almost everything on it would activate my sludge, which brings me to my sludge.

Great pivot. Oh, my God. Sludge pivot. Before we talk about your sludge, there's just one last thing that looks really good to me. It was the Chinese sweet corn cup. A cup of Iowa sweet corn, but the way it becomes Chinese is because there's char siu on there. The Chinese barbecue pork. And I'm like, yo, this is'm like yo this is and only seven really good

iowa in the building um but yes back to your sludge caitlin because um it's funny when i was looking at this and i was like oh i don't know if i want to talk about this with caitlin because you're currently having you are experiencing health issues. Yeah. And you are dealing with a medical system that is wholly unable to treat you with any kind of dignity. Correct. Yes. And you are basically going to do a podcast about this. You're doing a podcast about some stuff. I'm currently releasing episodes of a podcast about this very matter.

The podcast is called Sludge, an American healthcare story. It all starts when I was at a fair, not the Iowa State Fair. You were at a fair? Which fair, which fair? The Renaissance Fair. Oh my goodness. Yes. And then I had an attack,

a sludge attack. And by that, I mean, I passed some gallstones, although I didn't know that that was what was happening. At the time, went to the ER. The ER staff were like, yeah yeah we don't really know what's wrong but we think you have some sludge in your gallbladder and i said oh should i feel chill about that right like uh sludge you say okay sludge was the medical term that's what the nurse

told me yes wow wow wow wow um because i'm stupid, I guess. I wouldn't understand gallstones. What sludge is, yeah. So she's like, you have sludge? Yeah, what we call sludge. And then since then, I've just been on this never-ending quest to seek treatment for my sludge and have been very much unable to do that because of my health insurance and there's just so many hoops to jump through. Oh, God.

And referrals and approvals and authorizations and da-da-da. On and on. I still have the sludge in my body. It needs to get out of my body. But it's still there. So listen to sludge. Yeah, please listen to sludge. I am so sorry for your sludge.

It's okay. Well, and then here's like I can't eat anything on this menu or anything really except for like vegetables and like. Because your digestive system is so sensitive basically. Yeah. So gallstones or again sludge balls. Ah. Oh. are I guess the result of your body not being able to properly digest or like process fatty food. Okay. Oh, so this would be.

Yeah. So like your gallbladder or your, I'm sorry, your sludge pouch is where you store bile that your, like excess bile that your liver makes and bile is used to break down fatty food. I know none of this because any doctors have told me or any medical professionals. I've just had to figure this out on my own. I've got sludge balls in my sludge pouch

because it's like a hereditary thing. My grandma, my aunt all had sludge balls as well. But it needs to exit my body through sludge surgery. Sludgery. Sludgery. Sludgery, if you will.

Done by a qualified slurgeon. A slurgeon, yes. Right? Who went to slurgical school. Yes. Correct. Yeah, of course, yeah. So anyway, I'm waiting to just have the proper medical care.

But this country hates poor people. And they only want rich people to have medical care. Yeah. Right. And they love to profit off of sick people. Yes. Yes, of course. So, yeah, please check out that show so you can follow Caitlin's journey to de-sludgify herself.

Thank you. Jossie, it has been wonderful having you. Yeah, thank you so much. Please tell people where they can find you and follow you and Thank you. Jossie, it has been wonderful having you. Yeah, thank you so much. Please tell people where they can find you and follow you and support you, hear you, whatever, and all your incarnations. You guys can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Jossie.com. That's J-O-C-E-Y-D-O-T-C-O-M. Oh, you spell it.

Yeah, there's a lot of, I mean, you can really get creative with what you think I mean when I say that. So I like to spell it. Yeah, there's a lot of I mean, you can really get creative with what you think I mean when I say that. So I like to spell it out. Right. Yeah. But that's where you can find me. And sometimes I post OK tweets. Yeah, I think.

Yeah. Yeah. Some pretty good tweets. Yeah. Actually, I've read one of your tweets on here before. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, my God.

I think they're great. That's incredibly flattering. Wow. Oh, well, you know, this is a segment podcast, so let's not get ahead of ourselves. What about you, Durante? Where can people find you, follow you? Oh, I'm sorry. A tweet that you like, Jossie.

Oh, my God. Okay. I got ahead of myself. So there's a tweet I like, and it is a video of Gordon Ramsay. Uh-huh. And it's on, I think, one of his cooking shows. He's talking to a contestant about her carrot cake. Okay.

And he asks her if she knows what the main thing about carrot cake is. Okay. And you can only guess what she answers. If there's one thing a carrot cake needs, it's what? Carrots. Frosting. Frosting. Frosting, frosting.

And the most beautiful, first of all. The cake looks amazing. Yes uh the cake looks amazing yes the cake looks amazing um i highly recommend you watch this uh video because her face as she self-corrects to frosting is like is it incredible it's an immersive experience of feeling exactly that way she dies inside and also also like Gordon Ramsay, like the tweet says, I wouldn't usually disagree with Gordon Ramsay, but I was watching him judge this carrot cake

and I think the contestant was perhaps correct. What's the main thing about carrot cake? I would say carrots. I would say carrots. I guess I don't know. I'm coming as a non-baker.

Yeah. So in my mind, yeah, literally, if it's carrot cake, carrot. But I guess I don't know. I'm coming as a non-baker. Yeah. So in my mind, yeah, literally, if it's carrot cake, carrot. But I guess the icing must be like for everyone to be like, no, that's – any asshole can make the cake. It's the icing. I would say a carrot because I have no idea how you incorporate carrots into a cake, and I'm in awe of it. I think you just stuff them in the cake pan when you bake it.

Yeah. Just place one carrot in the middle. Look, carrot cake is yet another thing I can't eat anymore because of my sludge. Oh, my sludge. Sorry. So everyone's just really – I don't mean that. But carrots – That's not me.

I can eat carrots. Carrots, that's a safe sludge move. So as we eat carrot cake, you eat your carrot along and then visualize. And then I put frosting on it. Yeah, if you can. Great. If you can, awesome. Durante, where can we find you and follow you and support you? your carrot along and then I put frosting on it. Yeah. Great. Awesome. Uh,

Durante, where can we find you and follow you and support you? Oh, thank you so much. Uh, you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante and that's Caitlin with a C. And then, uh,

you can, like I said, listen to, uh, the sludge podcast and follow that on Twitter at sludge podcast um check out my other uh podcast the bechtel cast which i co-host with uh frequent podcast guests is that the word that that we say well now she's a performance artist i don't know she might be true uh jamieftus. And we talk about the representation of women in movies in that podcast. I'm teaching some online screenwriting classes coming up in October.

So if you want to learn and you live anywhere in the world, you can do that because it's online. So you can go to my website, CaitlinDurante.com, and there's some information about that there. Also, I'm going to be traveling despite my sludge. Yes, internationally. Internationally. I have a sludge. Might have a sludge attack at any time during my travels. Who knows?

But I am doing comedy in Edinburgh, London, Dublin, and Paris. Okay, Miss Maisel. Oh, we didn't... You know, Italy. Florence, specifically. As the locals call it. I'm sorry. Did you just mention you will be going to Florence, Italy?

Oh my God, are we in the America? No, no, not at all. I'm actually... So I'm not going to Florence. Okay, cut this off. I'm going to Rome. Cool. Okay. Sounds good.

Sounds chill. Never been. I'm excited. I've heard good things. It's like some gladiator shit or something? Yeah, right. Cool, sounds good. Sounds very chill to me

sounds like a great time I've heard that their infrastructure is really crumbling though just like my body that's full of sludge and if you have a sludge baby abroad then they're technically a naturalized citizen of that country dual citizenship for your sludge baby

the nice thing about my travels is that almost everywhere I'm going has like universal health care so if I have another sludge attack i can probably just get my problem taken care of immediately right in any without them being like what's your sludge situation right like uh i need an authorization for a referral for an approval yeah for you to even see a doctor there you go i mean I mean like- Have your sludge child. Every good- Hopefully it will be Italian. Every good sequel to anything is like, and then they go to Europe.

So this is a really great time for sludge podcast. I mean, Spider-Man, Far From Home. Yes. Men in Black International. Sludgy. Sludgy, Far From Home. Far From Home. Sludgy too, Back in the Habit.

Or that's Sister Act. Sludgy to me is very Fl habit. Or that's sister act. Sludgy to me is very Flubber-like. Yeah, 100%. If we can put a friendly face on your sludge, then it's Flubber.

Yes. Thank you. What's a tweet that you like? Oh, it comes from Megan Amram at Megan Amram. She retweeted

a tweet of hers from 2016, but it is still very relevant. She says, these shootings keep happening despite our worst efforts. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, boy.

She's the master of repetition. There's that one, today is the day Donald Trump finally became president. And then her TBTs on Instagram. It's always, I don't know, I think it's been like four years now, this same TBT photo. Maybe five. Oh wait, which one is it? It's the one,

it's in black and white and she's throwing her hands up. Oh, sure. She does that every fucking week for years. Every Thursday?

Yeah. That's incredible. And just adds one week. I mean, talk about performance art. That's good performance art. It's called art, you know what I mean?

You know what, yeah, drop the P. You can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. A tweet that I mean? You know what? Yeah, drop the P. You can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. A tweet that I like is from Reductress that says,

Quiz, are you an introvert, an extrovert, or a pervert? And yes, that'll be all for me. Oh, next week for AKAs, hit me with some Beck-inspired AKAs. Wow. Okay? I would hit me with some Beck-inspired AKAs. Wow. Okay? I would like to do some Beck songs. So if you have New Pollution, Devil's Haircut, Loser, whatever, Debra. Oh, shit.

I could really go. I mean, he's demonstrated his range. Please push it. I know. Exactly. And I will have to overtake him at some point. Hit me with Beck-inspired AKAs for next week, please. I would his range. Please push it. I know, exactly. And I will have to overtake him at some point. Hit me with Beck-inspired AKAs for next week, please. I would appreciate that.

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Or I might just be lost in Epcot the whole time because I have not been to Disney World, and that is something I will do while I'm there. Please give me tips. Now, the song we will go into the weekend into like brave brave warriors is a track from crew on bin okay a band that i we talk about a lot um their vibes are just very strong um and something i appreciate and the track is called order of operations off the album hasta el cielo and check this song out it's's a viber. Not really no lyrics on this one. Just

minimal bass playing. Some nice reverb on the kit. You know, just something just to lose into the weekend. Please love yourself. Love each other. Bless y'all. Have a safe weekend filled with love and food. If you're in Iowa, please fucking have one of those corn cups for me.

Yeah, see if you can find the stick of butter deep fried and on a stick. Yeah, please. I'll eat that. Someone needs to eat it. I can't. Yeah, someone live for those of us who cannot. Celebrate what your sludge can process. Your bile.

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