The Daily Zeitgeist - Playoff Talk With Roy Wood Jr.

Episode Date: April 16, 2022

Miles and Jack are joined by the phenomenal comedian, actor and Daily Show Correspondent Roy Wood Jr for the latest episode of Mad Boosties. The trio discuss the playoff teams they are most excited about, as well as Roy’s longtime love of the Charlotte Hornets.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am Miles Gray. And I'm Jack o'brien and this is miles and jack got mad boosties nailed it defense and that says a lot here comes o'brien oh he just sucked the gravity right out of the building what a play by miles gray hey everybody. Welcome to this new edition of Mad Boosties. Miles, it's the week. We're in the same week. Yes, I know. We're dropping, baby.

I know. Mere days before you hear this. Exactly. We try and stay as up-to-date as possible. But let's get right into the discussion now because we've got a fantastic guest like we said up top roy wood jr is with us hello roy yes i am here i'm here to talk basketball the round ball sport now yes yes tell you tales of why i quit playing organized basketball in the seventh grade oh what happened i was i was a baseball and soccer

guy get the hell away from me you're playing soccer right yeah i was a goalie though again get the hell away from me yeah you're too close to me were you a pitcher in baseball no first base i wanted to do the least amount of work if you watch not here to bring up baseball into your basketball show here it's fine all relevant All relevant. First base, hands down, the laziest position in most professional sports. Right up there with punter. It's beautiful.

You don't run anywhere. You don't go anywhere. You just wait for other people to throw you the ball. Yeah. Right. And you always have somebody to talk to, usually.

Yeah, you have a friend. Occasionally on a double, you need to tail the runner in case he rounds second too aggressively. But my thing with basketball, I think part of the problem was that i grew up the younger kid like i grew we moved to birmingham when i was in the fourth grade but most of the neighborhood was seventh and eighth graders and that jump the

physicality from a fourth grader to i knew seventh graders would go tease so it was just shout out to terry ivy that's a true statement, by the way. Having only played baseball up until that point and then moving to a new city, it was just, there was just a social, it was just, it was too much. I was just like, you know what? I'm just, I'm going to go play baseball. And then everybody loved the Bulls. And the more popular the team,

the more people wanted to challenge you to try and take your your shirt or steal your bulls jerseys and you know what who's the new team the charlotte hornets all right great no one likes them yet that i'll root for them they come on tv so that's how that came about just the fact that they were like not yet a very popular team did it have anything to do with the fact that they had the dopest colorway well you know what to the colorway point so i did uh bomani jones show a game theory and we got to talking about this and part of why i'm a hornets fan is because they had gang safe colors now you can give me grandma ma alonzo morning oh yeah i love all of that but also i could wear this shirt to school right with no problems yeah it wasn't affiliated with anything you're like nope

uh my converse with react juice no just yeah neutral where you going with that turquoise and purple on yeah never it's also just a stroke of genius for a new team in the nineties, like coming out of the gate with a purple and like aquamarine combo. Like I'm not an entomologist. I'm pretty sure that's not what color Hornets are, but it was the color of the 90. Like that was the color of the zeitgeist in that decade honeycomb lane i don't think a lot of teams were doing the decorative lane paint right just yet i'm not gonna say they

were the first but this concept of hey you know the area under the rim doesn't just have to be solid paint right right right only razzdazzle that just a little bit. I love where we are now with the NBA, where the Bucs just have leaves and all types of Oregon-esque looking designs on their floor. Also, the thing that the Nets had for a while where their court looked like it was in black and white, and then there would just be these little pops of color that would remind you you weren't watching a thing in black and white and then there would just be these little pops of color

that would remind you you weren't watching a thing in black and white was really like visually kind of cool like and challenging um i can't i can't believe they got away with that but it was pretty dope the hornets the hornets were my team then and i got to college though and they kind of became the team that was like early on in the 80s i you could get a hornets game now and then this is something else i have to explain to like kids if you like the team that like wasn't in the region like you grew up in birmingham you don't like the hawks bro you're not watching any of the team until they play the hawks right yeah there were no grizzled the next closest team houston houston i guess miami maybe probably the same distance those two new orleans didn't have a team yet memphis didn't have a team yet so it was you loved your team and you followed them through the newspaper right right and sports center

highlights you know then you would look up and looking at box scores you're like all right del curry another good one tonight yeah but see what happened so when i left for college and by the time larry when larry johnson left for the knicks and zo went to did he go straight to miami or did he i think yeah right with like khalid reeves in them right yeah i'm not sure if he made a pit stop the Knicks and Zoe went to, did he go straight to Miami or did he, I think he went straight to Miami. With like Khalid Reeves in them, right? Yeah. I'm not sure if he made a pit stop before Miami,

but I'm pretty sure he went to Miami very much in his prime. The team went through rebuilding. And when you're a small market team and you're going through a rebuild, no one's putting you on television. Right. So, you know, so by then the only way I could really keep up with the players

was just by playing nba live on genesis right back in those days are you still a hornets fan yeah i'm still that's who i root for it's like i go through periods of investment and then periods of like i'm not fair weather i i won't say that because i own a bobcat shirt so you can never call me whether yeah there it is i oh i purchased i went to the website i called myself supporting black business i'm like they got a black owner yeah yeah because when they left when they left for new orleans that was kind of when i checked out because i was kind of one of those fans that was like the ownership betrayed us even the one from alabama you betrayed the community of charlotte and then when the bobcats came on that's when i got back kind of into all right i have a team again right you know but i'll be i would be lying if i said that some of my habits

of just being a fan of the NBA in general, which happened when they moved to New Orleans, I was just like, all right, I'll just watch the league. I'll just be a wingman. But now I'm like, actually, I'm invested again. Then Mellow got drafted. I was like, oh, yes. We are back, baby.

Right. Bring me my old Glenn Rice jersey. Let them know that I'm not new to this. I'm true to this. Is there any favorite moment from that era? You know, the LJ, Zoe, Glenn Rice, all that. I don't know if the dunk contest is, I feel like, a huge thing. I think for me growing up was seeing that,

and when Larry Johnson was on Family family matters his grandmama glenn rice is probably i'm not and i have to preface this because i know some hornet fan is going to scoot up in his seat he's probably my favorite hornet of all time not the best not the highest scoring blah blah blah blah but i just the this idea of just him just just bombing threes you have to remember to be a three-point specialist at that time was very sniper-esque like the the game was played under the rim the game was dribble drive. It wasn't kickouts. You go on a team now, there's two, three people on the court who could just shoot a three at any given time. But in those days, you had one or two.

It was like a relief. It was like the closer. You shoot threes. When you see that person check into the game, you know, oh, man, I can't wait to see what this is. And I'm not going to say that three pointers were as electric then as they are now because people shoot from the logo and half cord and all of this ridiculousness but i don't know i just always found the three

pointer and people who existed out on the perimeter you know to be a marksman right i don't know i that was just a skill set out i always appreciate it. Our next competitors now are going to be Glenn Rice, making his fourth appearance. Glenn Rice won this competition in 1995. And in the 10 days or so prior to this all-star weekend break, Glenn Rice has been on fire for the Charlotte Hornets. The sniper versus the infantryman, you know. Something specialized. Yeah, you know, Anthony Mason, that's an infantryman.

Mm-hmm. You know, from the era. The ultimate infantryman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he really thought he was in the army. So tough. Yeah, like, Anthony Mason, like, he thought he was in the army.

Like, he... Right. Shocked he didn't have a helmet on half the time. But yeah, Glenn Wright's probably my favorite person to wear a Hornets uniform. I'd say my favorite Hornet is Vladi Divac, who I ended up meeting briefly in Birmingham at a rehab hospital. Wow. That's a whole lot of words put together okay yeah what happened i used to work i was the guy in the hospital that bring the food trays around to the patients right

and you know birmingham and everyone knows birmingham has history with sports medicine so i worked at the hospital where players who were getting all of the shoulder surgeries, the Dr. James Andrews stuff. I worked at the hospital where those surgeries were done. So post-op your meal, I'm your guy.

Right. So Troy Aikman, Charles Barkley, like anyone who got a severe injury and got sent to Birmingham between like 95, 94, 97. You saw me, I brought you your terrible bland food

didn't have terrible bland food that was something i was gonna ask because i'm assuming these are not people who are used to terrible bland hospital food are you they would barely touch it they had runners you know this is right hub so you just have to send some minion out to go get you tgi fridays or whatever the hell you really want it but it was cool every now and then because you would see just a random athlete walking down the hall in a robe stretching post-op and doing all this stuff and bloody diva cool as hell man cool time polite i mean you're not it's one of those atmospheres where you're not supposed to speak to the high profile sure guest on this floor how could you not man it's

vladi it's showtime yeah like it's body and this is pre-kings vladi that's what's so wild about it this is kobe trade vladi right right exactly this is hey uh thanks so much man we're trying to get this young man kobe bryant though so uh see you over there so i i do want to just talk about two things with lamello yeah both passing related but i i just want to get your thoughts on i want to get your thoughts overall on lamello but the way he puts spin on a bounce pass is feels like he's just getting started with like figuring out like weird ways to make the ball just like you know head in one direction and skip up into somebody else's hands like that you didn't even know the ball was headed towards and then the outlet pass

is i feel like an art form that is getting better and better the past couple years like and he might be the best at it with just the touch is like he will literally till the last second hold the ball and have three defenders committing and then through those three still somehow find the window and not even like going through legs or anything like it's there's something jason kidd made me excited about watching passes right jason williams of course oh yeah yeah peyton and stockton you know stockton of course but stockton was just more meat and potatoes yeah it felt very just, aha,

you did not see him over there. I saw him. You know, right. A lot of Stockton's success is just owed to Carl Malone and Jeff Hornacek knowing how to finish, which is what LaMelo needs a little bit more. Cause if you,

if, if he nails that three from, what was it last week, which is crazy all over the head and then just kicks it out to the corner if that shot isn't landed then that's like one of his like calling card like that's nba commercial type whatever i think it's going to be exciting to see him grow but as is always the case you know in charlotte you know and and this is coming from it's just so you understand where my apprehension comes from i am a cubs fan and i am also a dolphins fan we know what the dolphins

have done the last 25 years right the cubs did what they did in in 16 but since then it's pretty much let every star go for the sake of rebuilding and you know every ownership has a different strategy but you know it's impossible as a as a fan of a franchise that is traditionally only mildly or non-competitive to have separation anxiety issues when you get a once in a generation player ongeneration player on your roster. Right. So I find myself mitigating the excitement about Melody. Just in case, right. And I shouldn't do that. I know I shouldn't do that.

Yeah. But I do. Don't be afraid to love, Roy. I love Kimba Walker and how that worked out for me. Yeah. I just need a hug. for me. I just need a hug.

Well, here, let's treat our wounds with just a little quick package of some of LaMelo's best passes so far. Okay. I mean, that's just beauty for the sake of beauty. That's just art. He went through his leg and then flipped it up

for an alley-oop. He could have just flipped it up. Right, could have just flipped it up. So this one is an underhanded full court pass that lands in like a three inch box. Now that's the spin one that I was talking about.

Which is a full court bounce pass. Yeah, a full court single bounce pass with English on it. With a lot of English on it that just skips right up into the left hand of the person who's about to dunk it. Yeah, he has that vision where he knows where everyone is on the court and the ability to drop it into a three square inch space that is going to make it easiest for his teammate to put the ball in the basket. Okay. And so then to that point, on top of that, to me, it's not just court vision.

It's also, oh, I really want to pass it here. But this guy's in the way. What can I do to move him right and it could be something as slight as dipping the shoulder to insinuate the drive right he doesn't even he doesn't even take the first step in that direction he could he can make defenders commit and like he can just sell his body in a way that doesn't overcommit his ability to do what he actually wants to do, to like, you know, what his actual intentions are in the play. And that's not something you see on a regular basis.

And, you know, I'm like every sports fan. You want the good ones to stay with your team forever. Yeah, right. Traditionally, when you talk about the hornets as a franchise historically the hornets are man we had so-and-so it's never he was our guy and that was the guy and right you know hornet like in the best years right it's just man we used to date him used to date him right right you know you see somebody famous on tv and you go man man we had a chance right it didn't work out maybe the honest thing it sets the new template especially if they you know do it again this year like people are going to start being like yeah you know maybe we stay where we're at i think

the league is better off when you have players as electric as mellow playing for franchises that aren't as always regularly discussed yeah right exactly honestly low-key i'll put the hawks kind of in that same bucket in a way where they've had players and they've been good. And, you know, Horford in the game, like they've had people, but what Trey Young has brought to that franchise,

like just, just him, just last week they were chanting screw Trey Young at a Yankees game. Yeah. There's still so hurt. He has gotten under the skin of a franchise so much that they hate him at other sporting events. Right, right, right. I was at the game in New York.

I shot the video. I shot the video at the Knicks game last month when Trae Young told the fan to hold that l yeah and then he darted off and made a play yeah he's just he knows how to just come up to people and just hey i'm gonna screw with you yes and it touches an entire city and that is great you know i think it's not fair to compare atlanta and charlotte in terms of metropolis and metrics and all of the gubernatorial statistics. But Atlanta, as a franchise, in my opinion, isn't as talked about as it should be considering the size of that city. Considering the size of that market. And Trey Young has given them something.

I hate the fact that they had to play each other this week. I hate that. I hate the fact that because those are two teams that you want to see each other this week. Yeah. I hate that. I hate the fact that, because those are two teams that you want to see go seven. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

with each other, you know, so my point is I'm excited about Lamello. I just hope that we don't lose him to some super team Voltron transformer. Yeah. Situation that that's inevitable. You know, the point, the point guards who are coming up right now though you got lamello you got trey and you got jaw like those are the three

three players that i'm most excited about because like trey and lamello in particular seem to be like doing new things with geometry and then jaw just seems to have superpowers yeah jaw just doesn't respect gravity as a physical you know rule and he's another great example but just a player that electric they like he deserves to be revered like that in memphis also love the fact speaking of the grizzlies no one told me this but i like you ever find out like a random fact about a team you know you know what i approve of that yeah i didn't know that the grizzlies play whoop that trick from hustle and flow at their games during timeouts like that's their like momentum swing the opponent is called a timeout right yeah like you remember in the 90s they would play uh gary glitter rock and roll park to the

hey yeah so instead of that the grizzlies play whooped that trick from a movie set in memphis it's not even a real person in that movie no hey and it brought it brought him an Oscar. You know what I mean? Like, that film brought an Oscar to the town. So, you know, I get that. I get that. I get the Three Six Mafia ties.

I understand the Memphis ties, but it's just of all the songs you could play, like, I wouldn't have guessed that. I wouldn't have chosen that. And then I'm shocked that the entire arena is just, well, that trick. Get them right. That trick. And there's some eight year olds.

And I'm like, yes, they're like, dad, what's a trick. They're like, Oh, don't worry about it,

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts we're back uh and yeah i mean let's kind of keep this conversation going because like you said you it pains you to see atlanta and charl Charlotte having to face off when you know you'd love to see that be a much longer series but I think you know let's let's let's zoom out a bit let's put let's don our neutral caps yeah look at this playoff this postseason here I'm a Sixers fan I'm not going to talk about the Sixers here I'm going to talk about a team i'm excited to see make a deep run and why i'd be excited about that i'm not going to talk about the grizzlies because we have i think that's the team we've spent like 50 of the show so like not just this episode our

entire show yeah yeah episode one was all grizzlies yeah the memes are gonna pour in they're like mad boosties a john morant podcast yeah uh but no i mean i but i look i'll the one thing i'll say because i'm not gonna say the grizzlies either but i feel like it's been a while since i was watching somebody as like a neutral and got so excited for the way they play and like excited to see them play or excited to see what the highlights were from a game so from that standpoint yes excited for the neutral so jack if you're if you pivot a little more where are you going so i got to runner up like i want to see the warriors with clay steph and jordan pool like fully healthy like splash triplets i don't't know. Like I, first of all, I've, I've talked before, but like clay when he's locked in is one of my favorite things to see. Like it again feels like a supernatural event when clay is just in the zone.

And the, the other night he had 41 and started looking like he, who's getting back there. So like, that's kind of that, that's what the team that i'm like kind of keeping an eye on in the west and in the east i'm a sixers fan but um i i want to see the nets do something beam okay yeah i got yo all right playing nets the playing nets i love kd uh kairi as we've The play in nets? The play in nets. I love KD.

Kyrie, as we've discussed, does things with the basketball. It's just like an and one mixtape broke out in the middle of an NBA game sometimes. And I root for Ben Simmons as a former Sixers fan, which I know is not. Not every former Sixers fan does that. Ben Simmons deserves a second act so yeah that's that's fair i think the warriors are in the best position to get to the conference finals against the 3c yeah like you have to go through well are they playing denver right no no no he means in the final i mean, in the finals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, conference finals.

I'd say Phoenix. Yeah. I'd say Phoenix. I love Memphis, but they're beatable. Golden State could beat them. They could beat Denver. They could beat Dallas. I think pretty much everybody but Phoenix gives them a hard time.

I do agree with what Draymond said earlier this week. He said, it don't matter if we get two-seeded or three-seeded. I know that's what you're supposed to say. I actually believe Draymond is right from an analytical standpoint because there's less pressure on them. Clay hasn't been pushing himself. They've been limiting his minutes. We're not trying to go 73-9.

So relax. You're going'll be fine yeah and if draymond is like that that was another just like detail of the season was watching how important draymond is like again i love i love anything that's not that goes against the the conversations of offseason where it's what we were talking about earlier, where it's like, all right, we stack up this person, this all-star, and this all-star, and this all-star. When you have somebody like Draymond, who he is an all-star, but he's not putting up huge numbers,

and he goes out, and all of a sudden, the team's like 30%, not as good as they were before. And the Grizzlies are the same thing. It's not a bunch of people who like when you look at a stat sheet you're like all right well they're beating everyone like it's just they they have like something intangible about the way the team is put together so like that's that's what correct it excites me about those two teams uh and then at the other end of the like polarity i love kd i i love that he gave mb to shout out for mvp today i love that he has a great eye for talent we've we talked about how

he like called out job before anybody else knew about jaw so i don't know i just think the playoffs in the east are more exciting if the nets are making a run i i mean you're talking about a nine game differential in wins from the one seed down to the eight yeah even if you go to the 10th seed like just when the playoffs began it was only a 10-win differential versus almost 20, over 20. Right. In the East, 30. 30, because Phoenix has 64 wins going in to San Antonio's 34. Right. So when you're talking about a 30-game differential from 1 to 10 versus a 10-game differential,

I think that it's harder to pick who is going to come out of the East. I think it's Phoenix or Golden State to lose. Everybody else is, you're good and you're competitive. Thanks for playing. We appreciate you. But you could make an argument for Brooklyn because Brooklyn is going to give whoever they play the business. The 7th seed don't mean nothing when the differential is 10 games. But then Miami is very much just slow and steady.

Yeah. Just get the job done. Yeah. A lot of people are sleeping on them, so they got that mentality. As we're not in there, we take a break. We fight each other. But that's the thing. Come back together as a family, you know?

Yeah. Here's the thing, man. You don't want to face no team that fight each other. when they figure out their issues yeah which it seems like they've done yeah yeah right okay and then it means what you're like yeah and then they fight as a family together against the enemy and that's right yeah that ain't what you want exactly you're like oh they got therapy okay they're a problem now they're a problem now. They're a problem now. Oh, Lord, they worked out their differences. They're like, it's a monster.

Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree with all that. Secretly, I mean, I want to see Jokic do well, but I get that he's up against it. And that's just for me personally, because as a player, I really love to see Jokic. I love his basketball iq again talking about like lamello and just the way his body shape can pull defenders yokich has that same energy to it that i really just love it's just so efficient where it's like

i don't need to do too much the huge movement i can just orient my body a little bit that way and then completely just dislocate my shoulder throwing throwing a pass you've never seen. I love Luka. Like, Luka's fun to watch, and Luka doesn't back down, and he's ice cold in the playoffs. But you're asking me to pick against Klay, Steph, Draymond, and whichever fourth-wheel new iteration of Iguodala they have coming off the bench.

Right. Going, oh, you're good tonight? Cool. Thanks for the double-double, Wiseman. Wouldn't have expected that. Right. You're asking to pick against that? Yeah.

It's hard. It's hard. Yeah, exactly. Warriors haven't been full strength for a long time in the playoffs. People who do the numbers and pay attention to the numbers and all that, you're Zax Lowe and those sort of people. The way they talk about Phoenix is like they are head and shoulders above the rest of the West.

I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. the rest of the, of the West. But I, so I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.

But like, this is the most fun playoffs I can remember in a while. I will say, I think I said that about last playoffs and most playoffs. I say that about, so I just, I think I just get excited about the playoffs. Um,

but I don't know, like the fact that the East is more wide open than I feel like it's ever been is pretty wild. We haven't even mentioned Milwaukee, the defending champs, who are a lot of people's pick. A three seed. The defending champs,

which, ooh, okay, so then here's a question. Milwaukee's at a three, and Phoenix, the defending conference champions in the West, they're a one seed and they were eight games up on Memphis. So that is pretty dominating. I don't have their record from last year in front of me, but if they've taken care of business like this once again

in the Western Conference, it's them versus Golden State. It's just a matter of just who can just muscle that out. But I think if Phoenix gets back to the NBA Finals, I don't think they lose. This is coming from a Hornets fan. This is also coming from a man who paid money for a Charlotte Bobcats show. With confidence. You know.

So, I don't know how much you're going to trust my knowledge on this. But it would be nice to see Chris Paul get a ring. It would. And, yeah. I mean, what he's done this season feels like one of the more impressive things. He's maybe more in the Stockton mold in the sense that he is not inventing new passes, but he's so good. He's so good.

It's subtle things he does. When I'm watching Melo throw a pass, it's tricking the TV camera and it's tricking my eye. With Chris Paul, I feel like he's like, all I need to do is trick the person who's guarding me and get them to move a half inch in the right direction. I feel like the difference to some degree also with Melo and Paul is that because Chris Paul has been in the league longer,

he's defended differently. And I think that there's a lot of defenders' instincts. It's the moment Chris Paul gets the ball, you have to close the distance. With Melo, they still kind of arrogantly give him the cushion because they think he's dumb. And he's still running circles around him. But the moment Chris Paul gets a touch, you have to, somebody's got to get on him. And the moment you do, he's first step past you, or he's just around you with a no look.

So he doesn't have to go under the leg, over the elbow pass, white chocolate. He's never, Chris Paul's never going to go full white chocolate in the passing game, but he also doesn't have to. Yeah. All right. We'll come back.

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Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and roy this is the part of the show where we like to ask our guest what is is the craziest the funniest like just a thing you saw someone do on a basketball court that is seared in your memory that changed what you thought was possible for human beings to do in physical space? For the sport. I've been to a couple of Kobe Bryant 40-point games. You know, that's just more slow and steady, tried and true. Mm-hmm. You know, I'll tell you the funniest and most entertaining thing I witnessed

was a charity celebrity basketball game where Eric Bledsoe, Boogie Cousins, I think Gerald Wallace was there. It was NBA players with basketball ties to the state of Alabama. The radio station I was working with at the time, we do a charity tournament, you know, raising money for the toys or whatever the benevolent thing was. And we invite out all of these huge athletes and a bunch of Alabama, like Mark Ingram is there, football.

If you're good with a ball from the state of Alabama, come play this basketball game to raise the money. And you know how like, I don't know if you ever watched a professional athlete play an exhibition game, but they can't. Right. Right. They know one.

They can't. They don't know how. They only know destroy. Must destroy. they don't know how they only know destroy must destroy so on one team it's eric bledsoe boogie cousins gerald wallace i want to say like some random receiver from alabama whoever whatever alabama receiver won a championship in 02 or 03 and these athletes we're playing like a couple of cops just like a teacher like local politicians like it's like real athletes versus local celebrity like it's yeah people are like this is for charity dog dog. Yeah. Right.

Boogie Cousins throws Eric Bledsoe a half-court alley-oop to start the game. And it's one of the most disrespectful things. And, like, have you ever played, like, the only thing I can compare it to is as an adult. You, as an adult adult person playing against seven-year-olds on an eight-foot rim. Yeah, Miles does that all the time. That's the kids right now outside my window. They don't want it with me. And it's just not fair. It's just not fair.

And because I was on the court playing and getting dunked on, when you see NBAba speed up close that was the first time i'd ever seen like just literally just checking boogie cousins when you see it up close it's like oh i see why you got drafted right right they threw eric blsoe must have dunked 10 times. Boogie must have dunked 15. And it was just a dunk fest on state and city officials while raising money for a great cause. It's one of the best celebrity games I've ever been a part of. But Eric Bledsoe and Boogie Cousins literally just threw alley-oops to each other. Like you could tell they missed each other.

They hadn't got to hang. Right. And it was just them playing with each other and we were just around right you were just sort of in the way of the dunks when you see athletics on tv it when you see it up close i'm like oh my god he jumped all the way this is just insulting right i. I must quit now. But you can't. Right. Because it's for the kids. Yeah.

So you're just getting dunked on for the sake of raising money for children. And now I'm the one that needs therapy. So now you need to have another game to raise money for me. That was probably the most amazing thing I've just seen, just in person, in terms of just playing basketball. Because, yeah, there's something to like when you're like, oh, I can get this ball up the court. Like, watch me really, like, let me show you the speed with the ball until someone who has like three extra feet of leg length on you and you know infinite more skill and you're like these are these are not movements speeds or intensities i have ever actually witnessed in my lifetime up close like this i have no idea what i'm doing out there like i'm just

running up and down the court and i'm having flashbacks of getting dunked on by seventh graders with goatees like it was just all coming back to me on the court at that moment. It was so bad. Like I've seen one NBA game, like real up close. Like I got courtside seats for one NBA game. I always tell people like that is something everybody should do once in their life. Like if you can at all do it it's

absolutely it's because you don't understand until you see it up close you don't understand how fast how athletic how big they are and there's a trick that your mind plays where you're like those hoops aren't actually 10 feet and then you see it and then watch it watching that happen at a charity game around around other mortal humans is like watching a magic trick but then having it done to you is no fun imagine watching two nba first round picks for an hour dunking on city officials yeah radio djs like it was just it wasn't even they had to switch teams at halftime like you can't even play with each other right right right yeah just wheeling people out off

the court yeah i'd say nba up close that's one that you want to see in 3D up close if you can. There's definitely a different level of appreciation. All right. Let's go out. We have this mic'd up that I think breaks new ground and mic'd up in the sense that it is exactly what I would have done if I were mic'd up. And I've never seen a player do it. This is Willie Hernan Gomez. And, yeah, it's just fun.

He's just having fun with it. Right. The clip just starts off with him letting it be known that, guess who's mic'd up today? And that's all I would ever want to say to somebody. I'm mic'd up today. I'm mic'd up today I'm mic'd up today I'm mic'd up today they're all shouting into his chest

you will see that's the goal I want them to play if we're playing against each other today don't call anybody You will see. I can do it. Better know that. That's the goal. I want him to play. You know what I mean? If we're playing against each other today, don't call any fouls. No fouls. You guys do whatever you want. Okay, thank you.

You guys let me know. You know what? He fouled me. And you go, he fouled me. I go, okay. Yes, okay. I got to go. I got to be super honest. Talk to me.

Talk to me, guys. I got to be out. Come on, baby. I need you to be the low man, okay? Now.! Come on baby, I need you to be the low man, ok? I need you to be the low man. I'm low! I'm low! I trust you, Peter. I trust you. My low man. That's my phone.

It's ok, it's ok. Next one. Woohoo! I have a question about this. Do you think that the players who are mic'd up try a little harder during the game? Oh, yeah. You got to, right? Maybe they should just mic all the players, but not tell them which mic is going.

Right. But you definitely, they probably also are like, I'm mic'd up before, but he's just telling everyone. Just so you know, don't talk about anything you don't want on the microphone. He's running around with a smile on his face,

running up to all his teammates and his brother who's on the other team pointing to his chest and saying, I'm mic'd up tonight. I'm mic'd up tonight. Me. It's me. It's me.

I'm mic'd up tonight. And then his friends are shouting at his chest and popping him on the chest. And then there's a great exchange where him and his brother are telling Bill Kennedy before the game, the referee Bill Kennedy, that they're playing each other tonight and they're brothers, so don't call any fouls

on them. And he's like, yeah, no, no, no, I'm going to let everything go. You guys just beat each other up as much as you want. I feel like, yeah, I want someone mic'd up just to, I know that just to kind of reveal the real and honest side. They're like, whew, really got me on that one like just the whole package is oh i'm late i'm late oh that's

you that's you oh man i'm sorry i'm sorry that's me that is super producer jabari's uh assignment for what one of our upcoming shows the moments of people just being really like owning it on a mic'd up moment. Be like, ah! Mic'd up and just getting dunked on. Right. I'm off tonight. I'm off. No, no, no.

Don't throw it to me. I'm off. I'm off. Ice cold. All right. Last question for you. Speaking of Super Producer Jabari, he went back and looked at the Alabama football roster from around 2010.

Was Julio Jones the receiver that was playing around 2010 was Julio Jones, the receiver. There you go. It was Julio Jones. There it is. Wow. I have seen videos of him doing things on a basketball court. Julio can actually hoop, though.

Yeah. If you're good at football, you can do something else well, generally speaking. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I think I've seen him do something, like, really. They've won so many championships, I couldn't even remember which receiver. Yeah.

Any of them. Championship years. All right. Roy Wood Jr. Truly a pleasure to have you on Miles and Jack got mad boosties. Yeah, man. By being on, you have co-signed the fact that we do have mad boosties. We can grab net at minimum.

I can grab net or touch net. If I can grow my middle fingernail really long, I can scrape rim. So, no big deal. I think I can still get the net. Okay. See? I haven't tried. I'm 43. I'm not going to blow out.

Jump up and both of your leg bones are still on the ground no this is a pleasure yeah this was so fun yeah thanks for being on uh and go hornets man let's see what they do mellow if you hear this please never leave sign a tweet all right that's been episode three and we will be back next week with more. Miles and Jack got mad boosties. We did it. Yay.

See? Nailed it. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

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