The Daily Zeitgeist - Police Alternative Works, Pumpkin Spice Hold The Backlash 09.13.22

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

In episode 1329, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, comedian, and co-host of The Bechdel Cast, Caitlin Durante, to discuss… Herschel Walker Is Leading With Some of the Worst Takes Possible…, Denver’s Pilot Program For Policing Alternative Appears To Be Working, Pumpkin Spice Has Officially Won and more! Herschel Walker Is Leading With Some of the Worst Takes Possible… Denver’s Pilot Program For Policing Alternative Appears To Be Working The world’s first ‘Pumpkin Spice Energy Drink’ has arrived Pumpkin Spice Has Officially Won MARTHA STEWART PROCLAIMS PUMPKIN SPICE IS FOR ‘BASIC BITCHES ONLY’ Martha Stewart Bared It All To Show Her Love For Pumpkin Spice LISTEN: Silk Rock feat. Lætitia Sadier by Haha Sounds CollectiveSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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National peanut day. Peanut day. Yep. I mean, peanuts are really having a good day on this day where they have their own day. And then also one of the most delicious ways to consume peanut butter. Yeah. Ants on a log. Are the ants raisins?

Is that how that works? Yes. Okay. Typically. And then if you look at a peanut, it could look like a bald head, which is beautiful. So, I mean, yeah, Mr. Peanut, definitely an example of a bald, beautiful king. It's also called Day of the Programmer, which is an interesting construction of the name because normally it's National Bob.

This feels like fucking ominous. Yeah, exactly. It sounds like it was written in code. The Night of the Programmer it sounds like it was written the night of the programmer is upon us but yeah it's because it's the 256th day of the year because the number is distinct to programmers okay obviously people know that it's represented by an 8x8 byte 256 equals 2 to the 8th hour come on folks exactly 8 bit but i don't know what i'm saying did you guys not know that oh my god i had no idea that is so embarrassing for you guys anyways my name is jack o'brien aka yo jack

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All the loyal people. They think the queen's their mom. All the loyal people. Swear to the royal scum. Shout out to Christy Yamaguchi-Maine. He comes with the harsh royal, a.k.a. as I love it. Let's keep them going. Maybe we can hit a royal flush.

The collaboration between you and Crispy Meme Donut right now, Christy Yamaguchi-Muchi main is it's McCartney Lennon ask. I got to say, yes. Yeah. It's appropriate that he did a Eleanor Rigby because it's that the, the likes of this haven't been seen since they were on one for a couple of years back in the day. Since they got back from India,

man, all tripped out. You know what I mean? That's what we're on for in that phase. Yeah. Yeah. Well, miles,

we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer, stand-up comedian, and the host of the Bechdelcast podcast, taking down the patriarchy one movie at a time. She also happens to have a master's degree in film. No big whoop. The most anagrammable name in the English language. No big whoop. The most anagrammable name in the English language. No big whoop. So depending on whether you've been given her name in a word jumble or not,

you may know her as Nine Tit Dracula, Latin Dancer UTI. But in our hearts, she will always be Caitlin Durante. Caitlin! Hello. I've got another anagram for y'all. Oh, no. Shit. I mean, and by that i mean yes please okay this one let me set it up a little bit okay i like a bit of backstory yeah of course well okay

so you know how certain you know movie titles let's say it'll be like i comma tanya yeah this follows this form okay okay so it's so it's i radical nut net now let me explain what a nut net is you know in like bathing suits for like if you have like junk and you have that like kind of mesh lining yeah that's a nut net okay okay okay uh look it up you won't find anything because i just made this up but that tracks i i feel like that's what a nut net is so again it's i comma radical nut net nut net how is it radically different from the traditional nut net? And I hate to start. It's on the outside. It's on the outside of the bathing suit.

That's how you do it. Exactly. Yeah. It ceases to function at all. Or it does function. Yeah, right. I remember the picture of me as a kid wearing my trunks inside out and thinking it's so funny because of that. Miles, that was so funny.

You were right. You were correct at that time. It's totally worth my mom saying, look at you, stupid. Now go change in the house in Japanese. Look at you, stupid. Oh, man. I wonder if I have to start nagging my kids when i think they're actually being funny you know because yeah they are funny like they say funny stuff and i i just laugh at them but

i feel like that's not gonna make them funny when they grow up right you know well in japanese like the word baka means stupid but it also means means like when you laugh, you're like, fucking stupid. You know what I mean? It's the sort of same thing. So exasperatedly, my mom would be like, baka, but be laughing. So it's not like, hey, stupid, fuck, get in there. It's like, stupid ass, go change your fucking suit. It's like the more the energy of that statement.

Yeah. Okay. And I think kids need to learn some humility at an early age oh yeah yeah i've been using the bad cops and we own the city always called the people who they're abusing dummy they're always like come here dummy what are you doing there dummy get over your dum-dum and so i've been doing a lot of that and i think that's very funny yeah that's in that parenting book three kids like come over here dumb dumb yeah you're you are a baltimore cop and a parent them a perp raising them right i do do a bad baltimore accent every time i'm doing it so i think they

get it and what does that sound like could you demonstrate come over here dumb dumb all right come here dummy that's It's like a Philly accent. I feel like the way you did it was you just kind of kept your mouth tighter. Just did my mouth a little tighter. Come over. Here, dum-dum. Get over here, dum-dum. Get over here.

Dummy. Dummy. Wow. Yeah. I can't wait to see the behind the scenes of you being the accent coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I've been working on, like, I've been really just, like, trying to embody the character, you know, as much as possible.

Well done. Well, thank you. All right, Caitlin. You were just traveling the world. How is the world? You know, it's hot. Mm-hmm. And it's mostly just hot.

Not much else to say about it. Yeah's nice europe is nice i don't know if anyone's ever thought this or said this before but like for example paris it's it's pretty barcelona it's nice okay i but i'm the first person to have this thought so um i was just there too and i actually i actually have a different thought. When I was in Barcelona, the biggest glaring fault of that city, and I think just Catalonia in general, the lack of Best Buys. There's not a single Best Buy there. And I'm like, where am I supposed to get a phone charger? And I was screaming at these people saying, i need an iphone charger and they're

like telling me to go to i don't fucking know it wasn't best buy yeah very unhelpful and if they don't have a best buy that should be the first thing they advertise so you don't waste all three days you're there looking for a best buy right which is why i have a new website called best buy or not and you put an investigation it tells you straight up if there's a Best Buy or Not. Saves you a ton of money. There you go. Any other highlights, though? No, just that there are no Best Buys.

I would guess probably across most of Europe. Yeah, it's a shame. Tragic, yeah. So Barcelona, nice. And Paris is pretty. Or do I have that reversed? I think you have that correct. would also say london pleasant oh okay damn edinburgh cute oh i like amsterdam somewhere amsterdam charming wow some scathing takes was that all We're not in the overrated yet.

Let's not go. Wow. Are there any places you went that were just like good? I love a good place, you know? It's just like good. Do you mean that is in like good as a step down from the other adjectives I used? A step more broad a step more non-descriptive um no i would say no places are just good okay good enough yeah yeah it takes a

lot to inhabit good yeah all right well caitlin we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we are talking about today. We're talking about Herschel Walker. We're talking about Denver's pilot program for policing alternatives, for having an alternative to like a single alternative to calling an armed person to come and point a gun at people. It's called the star program support team assisted response and it sounds like a dystopia where the criminals are running everything right exactly no it's so it's just people who have psychological you know psychiatric training and they respond to people who are having mental health crises instead of the police and you'll never guess what happened they've been doing

this in denver for a year stay tuned we're gonna talk about uh pumpkin spice a couple couple culture wars that i feel like yeah have been officially lost. Pumpkin Spice has officially won. And also the masking, they've just given up. They're like, do whatever the fuck you want. It's all good, bro. So we'll talk about that plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we like to ask our guest,

what is something from your search history? I googled Encanto screenplay pdf to see if i could find a pdf of the screenplay for the movie incanto and i and i did find it guessing that's what you were looking for those are good that is good search term thank you for that thank you it was successful well searched what are you doing with the script? Oh, I wanted to take a look to see how old the Mirabelle character is supposed to be when she's like grown up or like, you know, throughout most of the movie. I couldn't tell if she was like a teenager, an adult. Wasn't sure. We're about to cover it on the Bechdel cast.

So what I wanted to. Yeah. Watch out world. What? I mean, seriously, though, that is that is a great great episode that i'm very excited to listen to what did you find out or should should we tune in to to find out it's a big it'll be yeah it's too big of a spot no uh she is 15 oh okay so right yeah i could see that that's definitely on the young side but i feel like movies always in the described age like error on the young side you know like chief brody from jaws was actually uh 17 years old you didn't realize that because because they just want it

to be like young sexy you know right so they'll just always go young well because i assume she was older because i mean that character design yeah could be a 15 year old but also could be like a 25 year old wasn't really sure and then the voice actor is like a full adult so i was like she's like 21 right uh no it turns out she's a teenager right i haven't seen it what is what what does the what's the character's function to the narrative that makes she's the protagonist ever heard of that uh no because i haven't taken your class so i don't know fancy script words like that you mean the main character why haven't you taken my class wait that's incanto wait what canto that's Encanto? Wait, what? Encanto? That's Encanto? So she's Encanto? Encanto.

Yeah, yeah. She's Encanto. I'm sorry. You're watching with your old uncle. Which one's Encanto? Oh, got it, got it, got it. So is it sort of vague? Because she straddles this sort of age group. You're like, are you looking at this as an adult or a child?

That's not even important to the story. I was just, I always, you know, do my recap and I wanted to like accurately say like, oh, we, cause we meet her when she's like a child at the very beginning.

And then I was like, flash forward to her as, and I wasn't sure if I should say teenager or adult. Got it. Got it. Got it. So this is all very, like,

it's not super important to the story, how old she is i just like to be as accurate as possible i love accuracy exactly and and we just revealed something about who you are you respect accuracy you're not out here just throwing out concepts exactly she's a she's like yeah flash forward to her in an older vibe and uh but i do do that sometimes because sometimes info is not there right exactly you get i think of a good like how old that character is supposed to be mystery and i'm coming up blank but honestly let us know uh paddington no one understands how old paddington

is or is supposed to be except for you i feel like you're just like nobody else gets it he's he's ageless 375 times 15 15 times actors pretended not to be their age in tv and movies but fooled absolutely nobody i guess that's yeah that's a little different yeah yeah what is something you think is overrated i think that sourdough bread is overrated wow damn go on yeah go on wow it's i think we just have to go to a go to a break right now i don't know i don't know how to react i need to gather my thoughts let me make a sour too sour okay and it's usually it's usually too hard of a bread so if i'm eating a i like a sandwich on a croissant like a soft or like a brioche croissant is not that's just that's just like hardened butter you know like foam form like layers but i do like a croissan'wich for sure.

They're delicious. Yeah. I don't like to bite into a sandwich and feel as though the jagged edges are cutting my mouth, which is what happens every time I eat a sourdough bread sandwich. Or like a baguette, you know. Baguette is also a bit too crusty. I don't know how they do that in France. Is everybody's mouth just super

like like yeah yeah all the back because i remember you know like anytime yeah crusty bread i'm like and i'm like the next day i'm like what's wrong with the top of my mouth and i'm like it was the crust that absolutely destroyed i love a crusty bread i love a crusty bread with a soft inside i think my my issue with sourdough is usually when they also toast it. Like if they're using sourdough as a sandwich bread and then they toast the sourdough, it's like the sourdough is, I love the consistency of like a regular sourdough where it's like real crusty hard outside and then it's like soft inside. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My ideal consistency for bread. and then it's like soft inside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My ideal consistency for bread. But when they toast it on top of it already having the crusty outside, it's like, yeah, you could, you know, strip paint with that shit. Right. Like that on the outside.

Yeah, here, have your sandwich between these two bread mattresses that you can eat through. Wait, so for you, though, it's the flavor. It's both. It sounds like what we're saying. Okay, the crust is too much and the sour is too sour. Precisely. I love the fetid nature of a sourdough bread. There's just something so tantalizing about the sourness of it.

But I think that just inspires me to use more butter. And that's why I'm like, I love this shit. Because you put enough butter on it and it's barely just like regular bread the thing i love about sourdough is how well the sour pairs with the butter a nice salty butter yeah yeah that really goes well together look at us ideal uh ideal sandwich bread caitlin i would say honestly i mean again i love a croissant as a as a as a i love that catalyst for sandwiches just making sense but um or i think yeah it's it's a it's a tricky one i'll say croissant okay i love that's just so decadent like our like if i eat a san a chris sandwich that's like

it's intentional to be like it's a i want on a croissant yeah it's a special day it's one step above putting it on a crispy cream donut yeah dude jack when we did that live show in chicago after the live show i i got portillos yeah and late at night and i had a beef and cheddar on a fucking croissant because the homegirl ellie mckelvein chicago native was like if you go you want to disrespect yourself get that on the croissant and i was like say less unbelievable combo uh it turned the dresser like see-through because it was so greasy. Already a notoriously wet sandwich with the most saturated bread, pre-saturated bread possible. I love it. Love a wet sandwich.

Anyway, shout out Chris Sandwiches. What's something you think is underrated? I think the movie Malignant underrated. Really? Have you seen it? What's Malignant? I haven't okay so it's a james wan horror movie from last year 2021 james wan king of the world there i said it and

titanic yes exactly um titanic quote you might know him from his past work. He made a movie called Malignant. It is cuckoo bananas. If you like a horror movie that just doesn't really feel like obeying the laws of gravity, physics. Wow. Okay. And it's not part of the conceit of the film in a fucked up world where gravity's fucked up I'm also speaking metaphorically gravity doesn't really have much to do

with the movie but it's not tethered to our normal not bound to the laws of our normal you thought that you understood logic well forget what you know about that and then watch Malignant. Okay, give me something. Give me more than that now.

Like, what's something that makes me laugh? Wow, okay. Doesn't have to be related to Malignant. Just go. Here's my opener on what I do stand up. Name everything Malignant about Malignant. I feel like i'm at one of my dad's family reunions all right yeah you weren't even coming oh you do comedy

all right make me laugh and they never made me laugh in my entire life what's what's up go ahead let me see it you know an example like because i am intrigued now when you say it's so amazing because it's not tethered to reality. I'm like, well, and that's not the conceit of the film. I'm also worried now that I'm overselling it because I haven't seen the movie since last year. And it's not very fresh in my brain. But another movie that Jamie and I are about to cover on the Bechdel cast. So it's like it's top of the dome right now. I'm very excited to rewatch.

on the Bechdel cast. So it's like, it's top of the dome right now. I'm very excited to rewatch. It's just, tonally also, it's not just like straight horror. There's, there's,

it's goofy horror, we'll say. That's fun. Okay. And that's kind of my favorite, like sub genre. You know, I think,

I don't like straight. I don't like like, hey, let me fuck you up as you cast your eyes upon this feature. I like, I like when it's a little goofy, actually.

Then you're going to love Malignant. Okay, so James Wan is the filmmaker behind Saw. Saw. Fury. Saw 3. Yeah, Furious 7. The Conjuring. Like a lot of those movies.

Like all the most successful horror movies. Insidious. Insidious. As well as Aquaman. Yeah, rightaman yeah wait did he make insidious oh yeah so yeah he made insidious and insidious chapter two okay which is what i thought you were recommending because insidious and malignant both occupied the same spot in my brain because they're both words that you know are tied to a very bad performance review you know it's like oh no this has gone very badly if i get those either of those words imagine yeah doing so badly at your job the report comes back and it says yeah jack's performance was malignant malignant uh member of the team

yeah but yeah he this is this is what he does and it sounds like he he really took it to the next level on this one yeah have you have you heard of barbarian yes and i'm seeing it tomorrow night are you okay because that is the movie that I've gotten similar recommendations on that are also people being like, don't read anything about it. Just go. And it's like fun, but it's not what you expect. And like the unexpectedness is what is fun about it. And it's made by one of the whitest kids you know, which love when a comedy creator gets into the horror game and is good at it.

But yeah, that's getting a lot of buzz. Yeah, it is wild. The description of it, I'm like, oh, this plus the title? It's about someone who gets to an Airbnb and someone else is already there. And then it's like, Oh, what harm could it do to hang out here tonight? Just you wait.

All right. Let me know if it's goofy. It is sponsored by Airbnb, which is the unexpected thing. It ends up Airbnb just makes it like solves everything. And it's like really wonderful. It's a very cathartic story, yeah. And then you get a brain implant and come out and be like, you gotta go see this.

The deus ex machina moment is, like, as, like, the main character is, like, about to be killed. They open the app, and they contact the customer service chat. They're like, I think someone was already booked here. And they're like, what? We'll get them out right now. We'll set an armed team right now we'll say right now you just called airbnb oh damn all right i'm out sorry about that then yeah all right cool well i do love getting a good movie recommendation from caitlin we have achieved that i believe it is time to take a break and move on to some news. So we will be right back.

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I mean, yeah. Would you say he's malignant then? Sort of a malignant figure. I would say that. And his intentions may be insidious. Yes. Wow. Okay.

Well, his poles are no longer underwater like Aquaman because he is now leading Raphael Warnock. Or he's slowly been gaining on Warnock and is now in the lead against Raphael W warnock which has everyone like oh shit that's fucking like it's so he's so he's so clearly a terrible candidate who knows nothing of even what the fuck trees are or like we've talked about how he said he was an fb how he worked with the fbi he did not and like insisted on all this shit that like remember the other time he was gonna kill a guy but then he prayed in his truck and then was like dear god don't make me take this man's life and then he didn't and that's why he should be your next senator but he was like I was gonna kill him for the CIA right wasn't that part of it he was working with no he was working with the FBI well you don't know and he was following him and then oh he was gonna he said I don't know

I don't know what I'm gonna do and then I saw that he had he was a god-fearing man because his truck had a jesus slogan sticker and that's when he that was his sign from god to spare is that how the fbi works are they they're like gonna take somebody out but then they're just like ah you know what i figured he's a good guy based on how sloppy they are i wouldn't doubt it yeah exactly you know like if they're honestly like oh okay so it turned out he was a good guy they're like yeah i can't do it boss mcveigh it's a good shit i don't think he's gonna cause too many problems for us timothy old timmy let him go he could use his buddy could use a couple flights out of here though uh lucky though uh just let's not talk about that. But yeah, so right now, if you look sort of like at the history of the seat, right, Kelly Loeffler narrowly lost to Raphael Raphael Warnock in 2020.

And it was narrow. It was like 51 to 49. But, you know, all you need is 50 percent plus one and you are the winner. And the GOP was furious that they lost this race because they felt this was a sure thing. And Georgia had been, you know, to that point of really reliable red state. And, you know, a lot of people speculate, was it Trump's voter fraud, cries of voter fraud that suppressed the vote? Or, you know, or maybe was it the fact that countless hours were spent by volunteers and campaign staff to get as many people to vote in that special election? Who knows? But right now, Walker has the lead and it's very narrow. It's like within the margin of error. But when you look at how the polls break down, you can see that he's clearly a more appealing option for black men in Georgia than Kelly Loeffler was. He's outperforming her in that demographic, like by seven points.

I'm sorry, do you mean Fast and the Furious seven? Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Because, you know, he's I think his signal to other black men is, hey, we're family. And that was the way he was trying to get the votes. Like, hey, we're family. Like a certain character in Fast and the Furious.

Thank you so much. But yeah, so right now that seems to be like the one area where he's really outperforming Kelly Loeffler. And I think, you know, from the beginning, we're like, this was like a cynical candidate where it felt like Trump's big brain was like, get another black man to run against that black man. And that will be the strategy. And he is my pick, even though he's a compulsive liar. And it could work, but we just don't know. But when you look at like the other demographics, young people and seniors are, you know, like they're they favorite warnock that's not you know an issue women 55 percent uh are also breaking for warnock it's the like 40 to 66 demo that like herschel walker is just crushing in right now. And that's just kind of what the stakes are.

Also happens to be the demographic that would be familiar with him from his football playing career. Absolutely. In the state and be like, I know that brand. You've got my attention. And I don't know, like when you look at it, it's easy to think like, well, he should be losing on the heels of all the things he says. But again, when one party is full on, like, hey, we got to get all our people in if we're going to never lose an election again, it starts to make a little bit of sense. But I just want to point out a couple really fantastic Walker isms that happened over the last week. The first one was

him talking about how Raphael Warnock is so extreme because he wants white people to feel bad. You know, that's like the typical thing that they do on like when they're writing against Democrats, like he's radical and he's, you know, he's a socialist. But this is him saying, making up a total lie. The quote that he's saying Warnock said, he never said that. And he just then goes on to make up cool stuff about like the constitution my opponent senator rafia one night i remember hearing him say america need to apologize for his whiteness and i'm like that's not in a bible i've read because if you really look at the situation our founding fathers already apologized for his whiteness

because if you read the constitution it talks about every man being treated fair but what we've done we put the wrong person at the table to do the negotiation for you i don't know what that means interesting yeah he Yeah. First of all, he never said that. Right. But I think because people who are willingly like acknowledging historic like history and, you know, hegemony are like, yeah, you know, there's clearly black things have been said so then he's like ah he's got they gotta apologize for that or you know that's how they make the whole acknowledging history conversation about like they want you to apologize for doing nothing you didn't fucking do anything yeah and i'm sure that wouldn't be in a bible you ever read because it never mind the bible didn't have takes on shit that was going on. But fine. And then the Constitution does not say that it's about treating everyone fairly. Come on now. Come on now, Herschel.

You knew that. Slave economy. You knew that. Written by slavers. Come on, man. But. Wow. Yeah, that seems to be working, as he says.

He said his whole advantage has been that he gets out there and he talks to people. And in a way, maybe because his way of speaking is so lo-fi, for lack of a better term. Right. It's they're like, yep, uh-huh. I know these like word salad buzzwords that I hear on the news all the time. And he's saying that to me in a like a even tone. So I like him like has there been a democrat a democratic candidate who just has realized that like if you just tell nothing but

lies the media like kind of gives up on fact checking you and everybody just like kind of goes with it joe biden right yeah i guess it just feels it feels different. Like, I don't know, maybe it just feels different because we wanted Joe Biden to win against Trump. But that is I don't know. I mean, I think every politician, it's just all versions of it. Right. Like they'll just say fucking Republicans say whatever, whenever Democrats say they lie when when it's necessary to get people to support them right they like make promises they know they'll never deliver on yeah yeah yeah that's fair yeah so it's uh well who knows anyway i do also want to the 9-11 uh anniversary was on sunday as well and uh herschel walker also has some cool stuff to say about 9-11, but it also sounds

like he's giving a halftime talk, but I don't know. This is Herschel Walker's take on, you know, what happened on 9-11. On Fox News with Maria Bartiromo. Or is that who that is? Yep. And it's her birthday too. Remember, her birthday's on 9-11. Never forget. I never forget. Well, you know, you got to pay tribute to the 9-11 victims uh you know but also you saw america come together you saw america come together because this country was uh you know it was uh on the war with a country that didn't believe in us they didn't believe in us can you believe that guys they don't believe in us out there america was at war with a country that didn't believe in us before 9-11 no we were not at war we were on

on the war on the war against a country that didn't believe in us right now we have uh leaders in washington like joe biden doing venomous speeches that doesn't believe in america people he tried okay okay anyway so thanks but that's i mean it is an interesting angle that the problem or 9-11 was caused by a country that didn't believe in america like it's it's truly it's truly an 80s movie like 80s movie for children understanding of the world that like you just gotta believe in yourself right or that like your oppressive foreign policy around the globe didn't radicalize people into not believing you believing in this country it's just a sub mainstream media understanding but it even confuses more barter romo she's like what the fuck all right fam thank you it i don't know it maybe is genius because

it's so off base like you truly don't know where to begin like it's beyond gish gallop shit you're like i asked you for a question and you like you threw like a weird fart cloud at me you know that i think it was a miss america contestant giving like an absolute nonsense that's what that sounds like the asian countries yes yeah do we have that because that does that is kind of the perfect corollary that she just is using words that are all words that she just she says such as like five times as if that's like they're all like words you would transitions and stuff that you would have studied but without any content without anything going on behind the eyes yeah the the miss teen usa 2007 contestant from south car Carolina may have given politicians a blueprint for how to word salad talk.

Yeah. If you remember, this was the question. Polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a world map. Why do you think this is? I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so. that us americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have maps and i believe that our education like such as in south africa and the iraq everywhere like such as and i believe that they should our education over here in the u.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future

all right all right thanks so much thanks so much it's always better than I ever remembered it it's uh oh man look the Iraq such as It's that connective just to be like, I've got to get a such-as in there, man. You went over these buzzwords with the coach. Delay, delay. I mean, her coach definitely gave her some delay tactics, but assuming that eventually there would be something coherent, the coach did not foresee south africa coming through

and just throwing her train of thought completely off and yeah who knows where that came from i mean look and i i believe donald trump was the person putting on shit like miss teen usa so he may have been there taking notes he's like she's brilliant. She fucking just crushed that answer. Blame. What? Anyway, so, yeah, that's I mean, it shouldn't be, you know, too much of a surprise that the Republicans are motivated to vote for somebody who has no business being near office. But that's just kind of the state of things right now. Yeah. All right. Well, good to know. And again, the news hook here is that he is in the lead now yeah he's leading by three two to three points depending on where you look

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We need to fund the police so like so somehow he took that like we our policy that up to this point has made it so the police are who you call when you need a psychologist or a sociologist i'm not sure if i've ever needed a sociologist on on demand but you know speak for yourself yeah he's just yeah he was just free associating and um he was like so that's why we situation to just buy it. The best cop in the world, if they bring gun and are pointing a gun at people, they're going to scare the shit out of the person having a bad drug experience. So like just in general, it's a bad policy to be the default everywhere except Eugene, Oregon. So in 2020, Denver, Colorado decided to try out a similar approach on a larger scale with something they're calling STAR, which stands

for Support Team Assisted Response. And when you call 911 in, I wrote it as 9-11. Got 9-11 on the brain. When you call 911, your call will be routed either to the police or to STAR, who send unarmed people with psychiatric training. It's not at random, by the way. unarmed people with psychiatric training. It's not at random, by the way. The 911 dispatcher is like, oh, this sounds like somebody who is not a danger to other people and just might themselves need help in any other city. That call is getting routed directly to the police either way. Denver is like, here's a wild idea. What if because that person doesn't need police assistance? What if we sent what if we created a team that wasn't armed and that was there to help them? much less low-level crime,

and the cost of each of the calls was less than one-fourth of what it costs to just throw the police at everything, which every one of those dollars then goes towards community programs that have actually been shown to reduce crime and improve inequality.

Right, but is it safer? Yes. Yeah, did you hear? Sorry, I'm sorry safer? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Did you hear? Sorry, I just. I drastically diminished crime. Okay. I default to my first thing is just to ask without even hearing anything.

It's just going, yeah, but is it making us safer? So you're saying it does. Does it make me feel safer? I want someone here with a gun yesterday, sir, is how is my streetlight went out. Send the armed brutes, please. Yeah, I mean, so the low level crimes are the crimes that they are most likely to interact with. And they are doing a better job of keeping those sorts of crimes. Right. the simplest solutions

it's it yeah it's it's just so straightforward that i think probably most people assume it's been tried and failed or something like it it doesn't really make sense but could you imagine people like wait we never tried any of this other stuff first? Well, I think part of me must have assumed that. So we added more guns. Right. Oh, shit. But I mean, even Joe Biden, he like almost, it's like, I mean, obviously no one's going to like latch on to what he said like we would. But I'm like, that's an ad for why you shouldn't be president.

When you're like, these guys are all overworked they're expected to be nurses cooks landlords sociologists uh esports pros babysitters i mean we can't do the solution for this isn't to take less shit off their plate it's to pay them more money and give them more bang bangs yeah like what the fuck you just said it out loud you're like these guys got too much going on then they're then you should say well then they need to be more specialized if they're around yeah yeah i mean if you want if you want to if you need an archaeologist you want you want them to have a whip and a fedora hat to come when they come on the scene. So we need to buy whips and fedora hats for all these people.

Jill's looking at the Secret Service. She's like, what did I say about Indiana Jones tapes before speeches? He gets them mixed up. Oh, man. Famously, all archaeologists are not only excavating you usually stealing artifacts from indigenous people but they're also punching people and following through like three steps that's how he always punches he punches and then falls forward three steps every time it's like yo why are you so bad at punching you punch all the time you punch so much more than anybody. Yeah, take a class if you want.

Was that because Indiana, they didn't want to make it seem like he's more of a professor, right? He's not out here brawling all the time. So if he does, he has to throw like a wild punch that, you know. Well, no, it's Harrison Ford across his films. When he is an action hero president, he also, when he gets in a fistfight will punch fall forward multiple yeah you're right he is actually the more i think about it he is the most like

goofy dude caught up in the wildest shit all the time like in clear and present danger like when they get fucking ambushed like in that street they're like hitting rpgs on those suburbans and he's like and he's like jacket i remember there's like a scene where he's running and he's like holding his sleeve weird and it always bugged me as a kid i'm like bro your jacket's a mess like because he had a joint in there that he was smoking yeah yeah that like he's so fascinating to me because i he i it doesn't it just doesn't make sense to me why he works as well as he does and yet like i love watching him on camera and yeah he's an action hero despite the fact that he mainly comes off as like a professor who like doesn't know how to iron his clothes

like he's just every man and yeah we just we relate who is the worst is he the worst action actor i would say i would i would give that to nicholas cage i mean like okay let me let me phrase that differently like if you had to call a guy i don't know like i feel like harrison ford an action film fills me with the least amount of confidence i know he gets through it in the films but i'm like he's real slippery up there you find out that the academy awards has been taken over by terrorists and one actor is missing from the thing and like you you realize oh he's loose in the building causing havoc. Bruce Willis. Who is the first you want and the last you want?

I would go The Rock or someone like that. I was going to say, I would call The Rock. Or Gerard Butler. Yeah. He has a good track record in his films and looks coordinated. I feel like The Rock believes he has superpowers, like legit and believes that he is. But then that'll get him marked

real early in a real situation i feel like he's like his character in the the good guy or the the other guys where he's gonna like jump off a building and land three feet short of the dumpster in a pile of goo but no i see what you're saying miles i think that yeah i wouldn't call upon harrison ford he's not good at like hand-to-hand combat. He's like, he, but also, but I think even worse is anytime Nicolas Cage is in an action movie, which is a lot. Frequent. Frequently. Jackie Chan might be the best guess.

The best first, first. Oh shit. Yeah. Cause he can actually kick ass. He probably charmed the pants off of the off of the terrorists yeah he'd be so animated you know yeah yeah just a blast all around all right jackie we're back all right well let's talk let's talk pumpkin spice it is pumpkin spice season uh you know football started this past weekend i feel like i associate that with pumpkin spice and traditionally there has

been a backlash at least on this podcast our writer jm mcnabb will you know write a story that's like god everything's pumpkin spice now dang it and creeping up earlier and earlier i remember that was like right you're dealing with the last two years. We're like, wow, we're really going for it in August? Yeah. The opening day of the baseball season means pumpkin spice. Hey. Is where we're headed for. April.

Anyways, JM is pointing out that this appears to be one of those trends and a cultural critic compared it to Uggs, which I think is actually kind of smart. It's one of those trends that when it first hit we were like okay this is a passing fad this is like dumb and nobody's going to be into this like we're and like we tried to put it into the into that context of like a i love the 20 teens or whatever, like passing cultural fad. Remember pumpkin spice lattes? Except they just like year after year never went away. And now like nobody's even complaining about them.

It's just a part of the human condition at this point. They'd complain if there wasn't pumpkin spice lattes. Yeah. And Uggs, similarly, i remember when we were like remember uggs and then a couple years later everyone was like yeah no we all just wear uggs now man like that's people still wear uggs i never see people in uggs anymore i've seen a lot of uggs i've seen i've seen the uggs yeah the uggs are and they and they came back with a vengeance too i remember like in high school uggs like were coming out in high school. Yeah, me.

And they were like too expensive. So they kind of became like a class thing in my high school or like the rich kid, like the rich girls had the Uggs. And then everyone was like a lot of people were like, Jesus, they look so you just look like you gave up, like especially when they're all like worn down. And then it passed. And then I noticed my kid, my friend's kids started wearing uggs too yeah and i was like oh shit they're they're never going away they're never going away um but yeah with pumpkins i don't i don't know it's become what i think like uggs pumpkin spice is one of those things i've lived with but they just it just doesn't resonate with me so i forget forget that it's a thing. Yeah. Nor does it bother you. Right.

Like, no, I mean, it's like, yeah, it's funny when you see how much like Starbucks insists that, Hey, it's taught like, you know,

from their just gross consumer culture standpoint where they're like, we got to sell this shit. And guess what? It's time to buy it now. It's time. You horny fucks. Get ready for to slap slap on your bodies. Creeps.

Yeah. You disgusting pumpkin. You dummies. You dumb. Dumb. Here you go. Dumb. Dumb.

Here's some pumpkin spice for you. Dummy. There you go. Dummy. That's what it feels like. And I think that's why I don't I don't fuck with it because I'm not letting Starbucks treat me like a dumb dumb. Yeah. I just get mad when they try to pair pumpkin spice flavor with something that

is a disgusting combination. They're like, oh, because some things work. Like a pumpkin spice muffin? Fine. Pumpkin spice sourdough bread, though? That's never happened. It could, but it could.

This is Biden's America, Jack. Let's go, Brandon. Am I right? But they're putting pumpkin spice in things that they should not be putting pumpkin spice in. And that's what I take issue with. Yeah. You just threw your chair across the room. The listeners might not have heard that.

I just flipped a table. It's interesting. One of the things that is new this year is Yerba is a plant-based drink company, and they're introducing their first pumpkin the energy drink can emerging from sort of a word cloud of like or not word cloud but like images that a collage of things so you got your cinnamon you got your pumpkin you've got your fall leaves and then one of them is just a starbucks cup like that is on its side tipped over and spilling in a way that looks weird but like i guess that's that's correct that is that is one that is do one of the things we associate it with is is it something where you're like yo my i need to turn my energy drinks up with pumpkin spice that does not i can't imagine i don't but i get the coffee shit the baked goods little desserts but like an energy no like that's what i'm saying we don't

they're gonna start putting like pumpkin spice in like hard seltzer flavors and i'm gonna be furious you know that shit already exists oh yeah it's just like it's pumpkin spice beer and like we already have that that well i do kind of like a pumpkin spice beer shipyard from i think uh wow brand loyal i like that but if i see a pumpkin spice white claw, I am going to pitch a fit. You're going to tell that woman to take her bellyage, ombre hairdo and Ugg boots and get in her car and drive straight back to her church group. Exactly. But yeah, I don't think anyone says, you know, I need my energy drink to feel like cozy.

Like, is that the brainstorming session in there? They're like, you know, we should do unless it's, again, just a kind of one of those like marketing things where they're like, let's just fuck with people and say you want a Yerba Mate based pumpkin spice energy. I mean, Yerba Mate is like kind of like it's a very distinct and overwhelming flavor so i can see if you are going for your mate like energy drink then maybe you you're just looking to mask that shit like in the same way that it works with coffee martha stewart made headlines in 2017 for claiming the pumpkin spice trend was for basic bitches only. That's a quote. Who said that?

Martha Stewart? Martha D. Block Stewart? And now she's promoting a pumpkin spice coffee. Oh my God. The hypocrisy. You basic motherfucker, Martha. Wow. What are the other inmates in the yard

going to think of you? They've also added it to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, along with MacGyver as a verb. Just FYI. Pumpkin spice was at? Pumpkin spice is a blend of cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, cloves, and allspice commonly used in pumpkin pie. That noun is now. MacGyver has a much better case to be in the fucking dictionary as its own thing than pumpkin spice. Because that actually needs a definition.

But pumpkin spice is already pretty self-explanatory. Yeah. Wait, what is that? Is that some kind of computing algorithm? Pumpkin spice? Yeah, on the day of the programmer. Yes. Hey, dummy.

Day of the programmer. It's for your Starbucks. Yeah, what the fuck? So, cool. MacGyver, though. Shout, dummy. It's for your Starbucks. Yeah, what the fuck. So, cool. MacGyver, though. Shout out to that. Very cool thing. I'm going to try and MacGyver myself a little pumpkin spice latte over here.

Make a little nutmeg with a little cinnamon. Wow. I don't know. Drink it up, dummy. Bring it home to a James Wan reference. Yeah, I don't know. I still will fuck with a pumpkin spice latte it's like a it's a treat you know i'll have i'll have one or two a year and i will enjoy them wait a minute i

only have one thing that i yearn for seasonally and that's the winter dream latte tea latte from coffee bean because it tastes it tastes like a christmas store plus sugar yeah i love that shit i'm telling you when it comes around it's wild latte yeah yeah yeah yes yes yes yes that's it that's the only time i'm like oh shit it's that time of year and again like you i miss it pretty much every fucking year and then i'm like i forgot about it again but that is the one thing i you know how i knew pumpkin it was over for all of us and pumpkin spice was winning is that last year starbucks started like trimming down the flavored latte options that they had at like i think one one of them was gone last year i think it might

have been gingerbread or it might have been. Oh, there can only be one Highlander. Christmas tree water. I forget. I forget what the flavor was. Christmas tree stand. That's correct. Christmas tree stand water is no longer a latte flavor. Oh, that shit.

Oh, man. Whatever. Christmas tree. Yeah. You know that water like on January 7th, you have left it up a little too long. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. You know that water on January 7th you have left it up a little too long. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pieces of scotch tape in there.

Dead. It's insidious. Dead animals. Truly insidious. Malignant too? Perhaps. Might be. I apologize for that. Oh, man. You don't want to get that aqua on you, man. Oh, buddy. Gotta go. Sorry. Caitlin. apologize for that oh man you don't want to get that aqua on you man gotta go sorry caitlin pleasure as always having you where can people find you follow you all that good stuff

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And yeah, that's me. Fantastic. Is there a tweet? Fantastic. Is there a tweet you've been drawing or some other work of social media yes it is from my dear friend and co-host jamie loftus tweeted beauty businesses are like wow you are so beautiful but unfortunately you look like shit and need to give me 200 at this exact second it is so true you always gotta start off i remember all this and like you have fantastic like like your cheekbones and stuff like that and that's great but it's like it's just so dry everywhere like you're like whoa fucking just crashed the car right after that compliment.

Unfortunately, you look like shit. You have natural beauty inside that is waiting to come out. But right now, you look like shit. Sorry. Miles, where can people find you, follow you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, man. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Just another thing.

on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Just another thing. Jamie's use of looks like shit is, I think, one of her most potent rhetorical devices that she has as a creator. Looks like shit. It fucking hits.

It's a big staple in Dan Santa. Looks like shit and can't even read. Looks like shit, can't even read. Yeah. But like it hits so... There's a way, the timing of saying someone looks like shit,

it's like, I don't think there's a more efficient way to use that. And I think that looks like shit. It's like the hard K sounds. There's two of them. That's always like a good punchy thing. Shit is like a very just punchy word. Yeah, it's perfect.

You look like shit. You know, you're not sloppy. You're not a fucking loser. You look like shit oh i actually want people to say that to me more because it's it's music to my ears yeah no honestly that's why i was like i want to be dan santa because i look like shit i always think it's so funny when it says dan who looks like shit and can't even read all right uh let's move on to oh look where else can you find us miles and Jack got mad boosties,

obviously our NBA podcast. And if you like 90 day fiance, stop by one of the Twitch streams for four 20 day fiance. If you like that, or just listen to the podcast with Sophie, Alexandra, and I, some tweets that I like. First one is from Ashley winter,

MD urologist at Ashley G winter tweeted. Urine is not sterile. Stop saying that, people. It's not sterile. Uh-oh. Which I don't know what that's your response to or what, as a urologist, put them over the edge for that tweet to be like, I can't, if I got to hear about this pee being sterile.

I thought it was sterile but not clean like it's it's something like it doesn't have active live bacteria in it but it's like not good for you it's like full of the all the toxins that your kidneys are flushing out of your blood yeah yeah yeah it's like a technicality that it got by on but wow it's not even sterile. I mean, now I can't believe anything. I mean, the fact that it has bacteria tells me how to drink your pee-pee. My favorite website. How to drink your pee-pee like a straw. Okay, let's see.

What else did I like? What else? Who else? What else? Oh, then this one from Mike Solana at M-I-C-S-O-L-A-N-A tweeted, My boyfriend is on a plane to Miami right now and a bulldog in the row next to him just had diarrhea. Everyone freaked

out. The dog owner began sobbing and the dog escaped. Now, covered in poo, it is running around the plane. People are lifting up their legs and screaming. That is my fucking nightmare flying with pets. It happened to me. me huh what happened to you

it's kind of a sad story your dog poo-pooed or someone else dog poo-pooed on the floor my dog my dog he's gonna bum us out it's yeah i think you told this one and i was yeah and i remember the end we're like it has a sad story it has a sad ending my dog was actually sick for a reason it didn't last much longer, but it did escape from the bag we were carrying it in, run up to first class, and take a wild loud diarrhea

shit in first class. Honestly, good. Run right back to us like we had trained her to do that. More people should be shitting in the aisles of first class. Eat the rich. What kind of

anti-capitalist activist unleashed their activist dog in here? They threatened to turn the plane around on us. It was very upsetting. Oh my god. That's my worst. I've been in planes where like

a dog is taking a shit and you're like dude the planes don't make shit what the fuck yeah dogs taking a shit in here like what i didn't i'm not overpaying to then also smell dog shit yeah so when i had my dog damn i was i was a fucking nervous rat i was like please don't do anything please don't shit please don't be right because. Because it is such a nightmare because you are taking them to a place that is very nervous energy inducing. And so the last time they pooped was like an hour and a half before you even get on the plane. Because there's not really great places for them to poop. Inside the terminal, it's a lot, man. You got to use my method. Don't give them food or water for the three days poop inside the terminal. It's a lot, man. You got to use my method.

Don't give them food or water for the three days prior to the flight. Right. Like that's really. And they'll be so, and their energy levels naturally decline as a result of the calories. It works for everybody. Damn. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Tweet I've been enjoying. Handsome B Charming tweeted, NFL trainer whispering into the ear of injured player. Get the fuck up right now. You're embarrassing me. Because they are always whispering in their ear. Get the fuck up right now. I love it. it's always funny too because sometimes i know in soccer when they go down sometimes to kill time so like the trainer has to figure out if they're actually hurt when they're talking and was like

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And they're like a 30-plus person group, basically. But they play like these huge arrangements that if you're like into sample-based like hip-hop or like old blue-note jazz and stuff, you may have heard of David Axelrod, who's like made a ton of songs that are like the foundation of an infinite amount of rap songs. This sounds like David Axelrod's work.

And it's like really kind of trippy and ethereal with the vocals. It's really dope. It's got a little bit of rhythm to it, too. This is Silk Rock by the Ha Ha Sounds Collective. Apparently, this is a new group. This single came out a year or two ago. Enjoy that. All right. Well, the Daily Zeich

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