The Daily Zeitgeist - Poor = DIE, Orange Is The New Sky 9.10.20

Episode Date: September 10, 2020

In episode 712, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, The Pen Pals podcast co-host, and Dads: The Podcast co-host Rory Scovel to discuss Bob Woodward releasing audio of his conversation with Trump, orange skies in the west coast from the fires, a GOP staffer telling a cancer survivor that if you're poor then you die, Halloween being canceled in Los Angeles, Borat 2, the Oscars new diversity requirements, and more!FOOTNOTES: LISTEN: Woodward Releases Audio of Trump Privately Admitting Danger of Coronavirus, And His Plans to Downplay It Trump called his 'f***ing generals' a 'bunch of p*****s', Jim Mattis thought the President was 'dangerous and unfit' and Dan Coats thought Putin 'had something on Donald', new Bob Woodward reveals Thick wildfire smoke blocks sun, turns Bay Area sky orange Glowing orange sky, thick smoke: People in the West share surreal scenes of living amid wildfires Cancer survivor pleading for help with health insurance 'angry and hurt' over Tillis staffer's response LA County cancels Halloween, says no trick-or-treating this year Very Nice: ‘Borat 2’ Has Already Been Filmed and Screened The Oscars Will Add a Diversity Requirement for Eligibility Change starts now. We've announced new representation and inclusion standards for Best Picture eligibility, beginning with the 96th #Oscars. Read more here. Oscars reveal new diversity requirements for best picture nominees Kirstie Alley Leads Conservative Backlash to Oscars’ Inclusion Rules: “Dictatorial” and “Anti-Artist” Oscars 2020: Cynthia Erivo 'bittersweet' as only black actor nominee The Oscars nominated ‘Parasite’ but looked right past its all-Asian cast. It’s part of a pattern. WATCH: Manifold de Amour - Latin Playboys Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 150, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh, fuck Buck Sexton, fuck Ben Shapiro, fuck Tucker Carlson. I feel like Buck Sexton is punching above his weight on that list. I think we're giving him too much air. I'm like, who the fuck is Buck? Fuck Buck Sexton. We're not going to say fuck Buck Sexton anymore. Sorry.

Yeah. Sorry, Buck Sexton. We're not going to say fuck Buck Sexton anymore. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry, Buck. Buck. We'll find some other racist. Wherever will we find one? I don't know. We're going to have to do a lot of research. It's Thursday, September 10th, 2020.

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All right, so shout out to Malicious Bish on Twitter for that wonderful Miami Sandwiching Gloria Estefan-inspired AKA. The shoulder game was on point, Malicious Bish. I mean, I wish I had one of those ruffled shirts, you know what I mean? Like a fully Cuban Pete vibe. Yeah, yeah, that was dope. But yeah, so yeah.

Also, shout out to Yamaguchi, man, for that Fuji La remix. Yeah, yeah. Is that the one at the end of that song? Is the skit where they're at the Chinese restaurant? I don't know, actually. I actually just watched the... To get the song in my head, I watched the video. That's a great video.

It's like they steal a suitcase and then run away. We used to be number 10. Now we're permanent ones in the battle. We lost my... Woo! What a name. Man, I'm old, baby. Holy shit. We used to be number 10. Now we're permanent ones in the battle. Man, I'm old, baby. The score, y'all. Y'all fuck with hip hop. I feel like that's one of those ones that 20-year-olds might rediscover pretty soon and be like, yo, this is

actually pretty good. If they're hitting Nevermind album cover t-shirts now, that means they're in 93. Now we permanently won. Well, we are thrilled album cover t-shirts now. That means they're in 93. You know, the score's coming up. Now we permanently won. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

by one of the funniest comedians to ever do it. He is the hilarious, the talented Rory Scoville! Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, those songs were very on point. And the execution.

I got nervous. My palms were sweating as you guys were even singing. I was like, that's a lot of pressure. So here we go, Rory. What's your song? I got it at number three. As you guys were singing it, I was like, oh, shit. Should I have a song ready?

I know. We like to do that. Do your exercise. Yeah, no, you have five minutes to make up your song you have exactly five how are you doing man i'm good you guys are very kind with that introduction i very very much appreciate that um well true we used to be big fans now you have joined the podcasting world so uh we're competitors i know yeah it's such a the landscape it's vicious out here yeah i'm gonna pull uh some old tapes from some of your old material and let's just talk about that it's our new gotcha podcast speaking of problematic

don't don't don't man no it's so great to have you on i like i said before it's you know every now and then we get you know with people who i've been really uh big admirers of so personally i'm just you know excited to have you here oh that's awesome yeah yeah uh and you are what's your podcast called so i've got uh two which i did not. Someone who has my work ethic should only have maybe half of a podcast. But I do Pen Pals with Daniel Van Kirk, friend of the show. You guys know him. And then we just launched Dads, the podcast. I do that with Ruthie Wyatt on Team Coco.

Yeah. It's crazy. It's not what I thought I'd be doing i'm very very lazy uh but it's happening and it's fun what do you mean lazy in what sense like if you feel like for something that is seemingly as easy to do a podcast you feel like you'd be doing more or what i think i'm just lazy because i uh when i'm home i'm just home and i think in my head i'm always like well when i go on the road or you know doing stand-up that's when I'm like working and I don't think even when podcasts started to to really get going which is like feels like what 12 years ago something like that I think that might be right

uh even then I was like oh I like these I can't see myself doing it because I don't I just don't see myself that way but I will say the more that you guest on shows the more you see how other people do it you start to it takes being with fun people who know how to do a podcast to make your brain go oh fuck a podcast would be a lot of fun to do so luckily you know and obviously you guys have had tremendous success but also uh working with someone like daniel on pen pals like that dude that dude i think he has 17 podcasts actually uh yeah i don't know if he has permits for all those podcasts we have to bring that up you know we're not the podcast police but and all at the same time like he just manages to be like one of the nicest guys too so great yeah yeah i was like how are you i would be stressed out i feel like if i was traveling and doing so much and like we had a live show in chicago and he was in la and he's like i

think i can come out there and make it i like you guys i'll just do a live show and yeah let's do that i'm like damn i know damn daniel come on did you see someone do that that's freedom when someone goes yeah i'll get on a plane you're like that's freedom right yeah yeah absolutely yeah and then made me drink Malort. So, yeah, shout out to the city of Chicago because it's a whole vibe, apparently. Apparently. Apparently. Malort is a vibe, I guess.

I guess. Shout out to that Zeitgeist member. I'm sorry. I keep talking about this. You tagged our show, our live show, and I was drinking Malort, and you wrote, whoever this user was, Malort is a whole vibe, I guess. And I just can't stop talking about this. There's something about that phrasing that really got us.

The I guess really just wraps it up beautifully. We've been saying that to each other ever since. That everything's a vibe, I guess. Yeah, I guess. Non-committal vibe confirmation. Yeah, non-committal. Maybe it's cool to say this, but if it's not, I'm only guessing. Yeah, it's awesome. Don't quote if it's not i'm only guessing yeah it's awesome yeah yeah yeah uh all right we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners just a couple of things we're talking about

uh there's a new bob woodward book coming at you uh with some hot trump uh you know behind the scenes info that bob woodward was sitting on for the past like year while people were dying but so that's we'll call it six months to be nice yeah okay the sky is dark orange now uh so that's just an update for everybody it's a new thing a gop staffer told a woman that she dies because she's poor basically that like that's just how it works it was yeah it was remarkable honesty truth and comedy you know truth and comedy yeah uh la has canceled halloween oh not me no it's not me bro i mean they they can, technically Because of what it did Because of what it said It's canceled, it's out

Even holidays Yeah, what's next? Fourth of July? We can't, no! First they came for Christmas Now they came for Halloween Oh my god It does put a whole new spin on War on Christmas.

Yeah. And there's a Borat sequel coming. So we're going to say my wife with our whole bodies at some point during the show. But first, Rory, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? If you guys want honesty, it's 2020. I think the age of aquarius it's we're either we're entering it or it's just around the corner my search history honestly it's it's it's not even such a search as it is me just going straight to the the bar and and typing in tubepornstars.com, if I'm honest. Tube porn stars?

What's that? Tube porn stars. Just a porn site. Why that one? That seems very obscure. You know what? Is there something different about it? Here's what makes me... Here's where I...

Kind of off-brand porn guy. Where my brain goes, look, I need off-brand. I need people you haven't heard of. I need people you haven't seen on entourage i um i uh i don't know because i started thinking why do i go to that site and i i i realized it have you ever talked to friends who go hey what porn sites you go to maybe you guys are like look we don't talk about uh porn this in depth but jack barred me from talking to him about it when i'm way too i'm into it so i i say what porn sites you go to looking for for different porn sites and honestly

to see how they're laid out i love good web design um and so yeah i don't know why someone threw that one at me and i and i went to it and it just seems like it's you know really compact and organized your week. Like the UI. The UI is great. Great UX UI design. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of times they'll just throw a bunch of things at you. So many thumbnails. But outside of that boringness, genuine search history is like camping gear because my family was intending to go camping.

So that's not as fun. That's been like the one thing though that has been on fire in terms of sales is outdoor whoa yeah and literally on fire literally can't happen yeah yeah the outdoors but yeah it's like i know so many people have bought bought tents and shit that they don't they aren't gonna use but bought them like early on be like yeah you know what like maybe more of an outdoor lifestyle is what i need and then it's like in the box still we bought we bought so much we've said we were supposed to go this weekend we bought so much we set it all up we made sure everything worked and then we got a email that we can't go to the campsite so we've bagged it uh and we're just gonna have it but

the great thing about camping equipment is that you kind of can just use that equipment forever because you never like that's the one industry where they're like oh you don't have the latest thing you've never needed the latest thing right in camping you can do whatever gets you by i have a sleeping bag i have a sleeping bag that i use from 1995 and it's just as good it's just yeah i've had it since i was a fucking child and i've just never been able to like bring myself to buy a sleeping bag like i've gone camping too and they're like it's cold and i'm like i'm pretty sure my camp five sports chalet brand igloo whatever the fuck is fine for the northern california it wasn't but you know what that's why i wore a full fucking sweatsuit in it and i was okay but yeah like when you look at the

price of shit you're like i'm fine right I'm fine. Right. Pat myself in towels. What is something you think is overrated, Rory? Wedding cake. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I went through some pictures recently. I saw my wife and I's wedding cake. My grandmother made it.

It's absolutely delicious. Nothing fancy. No frills. I think people waste a lot of money on wedding decor in general. You know, maybe weddings. I don't know. But definitely wedding cake. Yeah. That's an expense people. I don't know. But definitely wedding cake. That's an expense people don't need.

Yeah. What kind of cake was it? It was just your regular white cake, white frosting. But she used to have a bakery and knows how to make such great cake. And she really was like, I want to make my grandson's wedding cake.

And I was like, so happy. She makes amazing cake. And also, that is so expensive. Yeah. For no reason. A lot of times you get to a wedding they're like this cake costs this much and you bite into it you're like it tastes like you're like it's all fucking fondant yeah that's not cake yeah i'm like i'm not eating a bunch of fondant i watch great british baking show yeah this is not cake give me a nice creme anglaise or something on top of there something nice is was it multi-tiered you know what i i think we had two i remember from the picture just enough to eat i think

but my grandmother's smart she made all these boxes where people just grab a little square of cake they could eat it with their hands she was like here's the cake you guys do the cake cutting thing then over here it's like you don't gotta wait for people to cut a cake just come over and grab a square they're ready to go i always get anxiety for when there's cake at weddings because like i really feel like i have to eat it like i'm like damn you paid all this money for me to be a guest like the least i could do is just eat this like 3 000 calorie slice of sugar but i get stressed out because there's so much fucking cake and i'm like how are y'all gonna get through this i guess but are you vape up in the bathroom and get high and come back and eat this three pieces yeah i i have the

opposite i no matter when anyone's serving cake i'm always like but is there enough and i always do i always try to do the thing you know where you're like ah you know serve everybody i'll go last you know you try to do like the gentlemanly thing in the back of your head you're just like there better be fucking cake when i and then you it's a wedding you look and you're like oh there's 17 more tiers of cake left we're gonna be fine jack how are your cakes for your wedding uh they were pretty good not a lot of fondant uh i think fondant is really the i actually am replacing buck sexton with fondant fuck fondant we're gonna open the show okay uh, it's just... Baking Twitter is going to come for you.

I know. You're not going to be able to get the nice look without it. I know it doesn't taste the best, but it's an integral part of the construction. We'll survive. Yeah, we'll be okay. What is something you think is underrated, Roy? Ah, shit. What is underrated?

Golf apparel. Golf apparel is underrated. It's oftentimes overlooked, and people shit on it, and they don't realize that Tiger Woods has made the game very cool, and so with that comes making the clothes cooler and less preppy,

although there's a cool preppy style to it, but fucking cool golf clothes. Also, if you fly a lot, it's like formal-looking clothes that are very comfortable to wear, so fucking cool golf clothes. Also, if you fly a lot, it's like formal looking clothes that are very comfortable to wear. So you can wear it on a flight or to a formal event, and you're wearing sweat clothes, but nobody knows.

Like, you don't know these khakis are dry fit. You have no idea. It's breathable. You're one of the only cool people who golfs, I'm told. Who says that and i'll take it i'll take it no i just remember finding it i think i saw you like on a golf thing or maybe you tweeted out like a golf magazine jay larson yeah me and jay larson i was like wait what oh yeah did you

ever do that tournament like with thune i did i did yeah his thing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah buddy of mine got terribly drunk there and all uh and all those guys are sending me photos. Anyway, it was... It's constant drinking for four straight hours while you're in the heat. How long have you been golfing? You've been lifelong? So I sort of played very casually in college to just drink and hang out. I didn't really like it. in college to just drink and hang out. I didn't really like it. But five years ago, something really hit me when I went to play par three, and I have become obsessed ever since.

I used to hate it. I used to hate watching it. Now I watch it all the time. I love playing it. I love everything about it. I don't know where that comes from. I grew up playing sports, and obviously, soccer and basketball, I just don have the same like body that i used to have and then i found golf and i was like this kind of fills that void of wanting to play a sport where i also don't have to get a group of like 10 people together to pull it off yeah basketball is so brutal on your body it is but you don't you don't realize it till now now you're now, shit. I could play for days when I was a kid. Now I'm like, oh my god, one time down the court. You said that you don't know where it came

from. It just hit you five years ago. Isn't that also when you became a dad? No joke. It hit me three months before my daughter was born. It has been a point of contention for me and my wife. For yeah that's that's how it's done are you playing golfing again we have a child to raise i did i did yeah i played since i was five years old and i uh i played in college and i kind of thought i would try to go play at a higher level after college i don't i don't really know

what i mean by that because that's kind of when the mls was really level after college i don't i don't really know what i mean by that because that's kind of when the mls was really getting going and i don't know that i had what it would have you know usl then maybe yeah i don't know that i had what it took but i i was like oh maybe i would do that and then i just i tried stand up and that that kind of diverted the whole what i had in my mind is like the plan you know it's just like oh i want to do this yeah oh wow but i miss it i miss it a lot i love you do you watch it i watch it every now and then but it's hard to watch because i want to play it uh so badly oh wow you're like just like frothing yeah like i didn't really watch a lot of sports as a kid because then i'd be like ah

fuck this i'm gonna go outside and shoot hoops or or run around or play so i'm still kind of like that yeah i'm still kind of like that like when i watch soccer i'm like ah it's making me miss it and it's kind of depressing do you watch golf with a club in your hand and you're like i should i should that's how you improve my daughter and i she'll sit and watch it with me now it's kind of she watches and I, she'll sit and watch it with me now. She watches golf with you? She'll sit and watch it and ask me questions. I'm like, oh, maybe this is how it starts. Maybe I got to start gearing her towards letting me be her caddy when she's a pro golfer. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. I want to get my kids into golf. That feels like a good- COVID safe. Yeah, COVID safe. They can do the backyard. you know they're not ripping balls into the you know down the block so yeah i'm sorry right it's true uh what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa i'll tell you this is my

personal myth uh you don't you don't have to board in your boarding group at the airport. Little hush-hush. And I'm only willing to get this way now because no one's flying. Yep. But if your ticket is on your phone, just go get on the fucking plane. They call first class, walk up, say hi. You scan your own thing. They see on the computer, but you're already checked in.

Right. They don't give a fuck. Now, if 10 people in a row, they're like, hey, folks, folks. Right. scan your own thing they see on the computer but you're already checked in right you're why they don't give a fuck now if 10 people in a row they're like hey folks folks right first class right right but if it's just you they go ah you got me they're almost proud of you they're like good for you get out you deserve it it's confidence yeah yeah and also just go sit in first class till someone kicks you out no one will know that's amazing i remember like i pull that when i i can look around and be like okay so bin space is at a premium based on looking at this gate and i'm not gate checking my fucking bag because i'm going to burbank where i can just roll off the fucking plane and walk home and so like i'm the you you you got me fucked up if you think i'm

checking it so that's when i will jump groups just so I can get to that bin space ahead of time. And I remember my partner, Her Majesty, she'll be like, but we're group four. I'm like, it doesn't fucking matter. I've got fucking confidence. You've got to quit sweating. You're fucking crying right now. Wipe it off. Wipe it off.

Wipe it off. Here we go. Yes, group three. Group two. Thank you. Thank you. That is weird when you walk up like that. And you also put on a fake mustache on the top hat. You have a mon sir that's right so clearly i'm in first class i can afford a monocle which is

you know less expensive than a pair of glasses um i do not i lack the confidence to do that uh oh didn't we run i felt like we had this moment when we were on tour jack where i was like bro i think i'm gonna try and get her early and i like i felt like it was you me and anna we're like i don't know like maybe we do maybe we don't i feel like anna and i just fucking was like fuck it we're on like we're doing this shit and you're like i don't know guys uh i gotta go to the bathroom then you're gonna be you're gonna be in a group later than the one you actually were assigned to don't yeah yeah no no i know i just uh better go back here if they catch you and say something you just go oh my god no i would never okay i'm so sorry yeah right there's no

punishment it reminds actually again a call back to one of your jokes about the kid lying about whose dad was a cop it's almost like jack's fear is that the person at the gate is like the mom who comes down we're like hey i'm i am group three and they're like you're fucking no you're fucking not we've been following you for weeks yeah we've been monitoring you knowing you try to pull this shit piece of shit just in front of everyone okay guys we have an asshole here yeah we got a line cutter we got a line cutter sir will you walk away with the agents please uh they have some questions to ask you that's you know how i picture it happening uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some depressing news This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months.

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basically saying the things we all knew, uh, that we assumed he knew, but basically he wanted to play it down. Yeah. That's the worst thing you think, Bob. It's,

it's not just the old people. It's the young people too. It's intentionally, I'm intentionally, he basically said he's intentionally downplaying it because he doesn't want to cause a panic but yeah let's just play the clip because there's like one moment where you're like dude you're literally trusting a guy who's writing like who's writing books about this one's called rage and he's like yeah let's get this on wax man

but someone who famously outs these new ones already done it to you yes yes yeah um okay so yeah this is this is where like bob woodward is kind of like so what's going on like what caused you to pivot a moment of talking to somebody going through this with fauci or somebody who kind of caused a pivot in your mind, because it's clear just from what's on the public record that you went through a pivot on this to, oh, my God, the gravity is almost inexplicable and unexplainable. Well, I think, Bob, really, to be honest with you, I wanted to always play it down.

I still like playing it down. Yes. Because I don't want to create a panic. Oh my God. Cut to nearly 200,000 people dead. You know, and that's... How do you... What part of your brain is like,

this is the answer to tell to this person because honestly i thought bob woodward was lying until you played that clip i was like bob why would anyone believe this fucking lie yeah my god i think there's i think there's a desperation like part of trump's dna is like you know the hole that he's trying to fill with other people's approval. And there's just like a knee jerk aspect to his, you know, he knows Bob Woodward is famous. Uh,

and he is like, I want to impress famous guy. I want to be like, cool. And so I'm going to tell him like a cool thing I'm doing. Um, and it's just, yeah,

it's kind of the, the thing that makes him want power coming into conflict with the thing that makes him just a desperately unhappy pathological narcissist. Good Lord. Yeah. I mean, it's, I'm sure there,

I don't know what right wing Twitter is doing with this yet to be like, he didn't say that or however they're going to try and spin that. I think there was like Kaylee McEnany was sort of like, he never downplayed it when someone asked him about it. Yeah. Yeah. But that's just, that's where we're at, where I'm like, you know, even when these things come out, it's like for people who see this administration for what it is, just like, yeah, of course, this is how he's behaving. And like, do i need this confirmation it's like yeah it almost makes it doubly frustrating because it's so clear and

it's unequivocal like this this is what he's saying yet everyone is just i mean for his supporters it's just they there's that cognitive but it's exactly it's this inability to just read that someone is bullshitting you it's truly truly kind of crazy to me because whenever I've been bullshitted or lied to or conned, that person did a great job. Right. This one is so clear. It's so obvious that it makes me think I'm going crazy when someone is like, especially someone of low income is cheering cheering him on I'm like

do you not know what the game is here like it have you not ever looked into politics your whole life to know what the game is and to see how he's playing you yeah the fact that we're infuriated that they

like like that's the thing like the the fact that we're confused and annoyed and like, what the... They're like, ha-ha, nice. Got you again, libs. A world where, like, cishet Christian white people are the apex predators of this ecosystem. They don't care what the president does.

They're like, just maintain this system. Like, that's all. I don't care if it burns the fuck up i don't because i'm not even engaged enough in politics what i do know is i've been fed a diet of people who look like me are on top and everyone else works for me and i don't know and if they get loud i can just tell them to shut up or call the yes yeah you know that's really that's like they're that's i mean every day we just they reveal their values more and more because like oh okay, okay, so it's clearly not honesty. It's clearly not having a president who is a leader. It's like, oh, it's purely for the pain.

It has been four years of so many different platforms you can pick to be on the right side of history. Some people are like, I'm going to get it wrong every single time. You're like, this isn't even like, hey, just one topic you got wrong. But to get like 10 topics wrong kind of in one year. Almost in one year. It's got to be a record almost. I'm not trying to be right. No, no, no. I'm just trying to maintain my toxic worldview.

That's all. There's also some of the other reveals in the book. Mattis, which I think we all knew he was like somewhat critical of Trump, but he's basically saying he's not, he's unfit to lead and recalling a statement from Trump where he said, my fucking generals are a bunch of pussies. And then a Republican director of national intelligence,

Dan Coats, like doesn't want to believe he's like i know it's bad i know i really shouldn't think this as his director of national intelligence but i can't shake the feeling that putin has something on him i know it sounds weird i know it doesn't sound weird oh right but he's just like i can't i i don't want to believe this, but everything he does is just like, he just can't put it down. Even the things he does. What's your position again, Dan Coats? Oh, I'm the Director of National Intelligence. Okay, so you might have heard some other, it's not just your feeling.

You might be drawing from multiple data sets. You've got some concrete stuff you can touch with your hands. Yeah, I'm looking at the compromise right here. Yeah, and then I think there was another thing about how he was talking about how he had like a secret nuclear arsenal that no one had ever seen too whereas like i've got stuff kim jong-un doesn't even know about chi or putin it's really cool stuff they don't even know they'll never know that just all kind of luster oh yeah i doubt it based on the fact that we're all confused and flummoxed at those flying Tic Tac videos that like those Navy Air,

there's Navy pilots shot. Like, I think someone else might, if anyone has something we've never seen, it might be another country. Yeah. I don't know. Oh,

he's definitely making it up, but it's just funny that having the most powerful and deadly military in the history of the human species like is not enough for him yeah yeah but then there's also like this one that uh yeah i have hidden up in uh canada who uh really yeah i've got yeah i've exactly your fake summer girlfriend from camp exactly it's It's your nuclear arsenal. A fake summer girlfriend of nuclear arsenals. My secret arsenal is TubePornStars.com. Folks, I just invested this morning. Give it a look.

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you can see the light inside the UPS truck, so you can see that the color scheme inside the UPS truck is like what it normally would be. It's white and white light, and then all around it looks like Mars shot

through an orange Instagram filter. There are a bunch of memes where they're using the UPS logo and making it upside down, like upside down, because it really is just dark. Kudos to this employee for still clocking in. If ever there's a day, I'm like, you know what? I think I'm going to let those packages pile. Call your manager.

What's going on, Rory? What are you doing? Well, I just, I've never seen the sky so red, and I just feel like that's a sign. You scared a little red sky? Come on. It's just, there's ash. There's a lot of ash, and it's hot.

It's rare. It's like 118 degrees, which has never happened. The picture is from Raven Rosie on Reddit. All right. I hope they win a Pulitzer. Is this in California? I think it was in Oregon, actually. Oh, thank God.

I think it doesn't affect us if it's somewhere else. Well, I mean, the Bay Area looks... The Bay Area does not look great either. Yeah. It is. Like, the photos from this morning out there where it's like, it's 9 a.m and the sky was just like you know it's all the orange and and it's i mean maybe there's a dumb question it's all the

fires right it's the what what's happening off of the smoke and i think it's america's abandoning of christ you know what and you know i didn't want to say it until I saw that I had Christian support on the show. And now I also think that and have thought that. I've like looking at the sun in the morning is pretty like it's dark orange. Yeah, it's really. And you can also like kind of look at it because, you know, on an ordinary day, you can't even put your eyes up there. But because there's so much smoke kind of filtering the safety of your retinas you can actually right in my mind jack you just get up every morning no matter what you go out to look at that morning sun straight on you're like oh it is there she is old beautiful

fuck you your neighbor's like he's just he's. Who is he talking to? I guess the sun? I guess he had a weird high school experience. No, the sun, the star. Just badly sunburnt. Like the sun is kicking my ass. Your eyes are not white. I won't admit it.

Your eyes are not white. All kinds of sun spots on them. Oh boy. Please Won't admit it. You guys are not white. All kinds of sun spots on them. Oh boy. Please don't, sir. Let's talk about this person who has beat cancer three times, called her GOP

governor? Senator. Senator Tom Tillis. Tom Tillis in North Carolina. Tommy T. She was basically asking, she was concerned about her inability to pay for health care. Yeah. She's like, hey, I've beat cancer three fucking times in 20 years. So I kind of know what's up with the medical system here.

I know what the bills are going to look like. Yeah. So when my so when her husband was furloughed she was like well that could fuck up my access to health care she did like what anyone does i'm gonna call my representatives in government and see what they are doing to protect me the constituent from going bankrupt from medical costs because as we all know it's a thing here it's uh you have to be able to afford to live like to actually be alive in this country because that's how fucked up uh and you know soulless our medical system is so yes when she she finally got to his office she kept like getting in contact with one of his staffers in dc

and i'll just let this news clip you know i'll just play it out but she basically started recording her interactions because she couldn't believe what she was hearing she started calling her lawmakers for guidance and came across a washington D.C. staffer for Senator Tom Tillis. Frustrated by the lack of empathy, Veals started recording. You're saying that if you can't afford it, you can't afford it, you don't get to have it. And that includes health care. Yeah, just like I want to go to the store and buy a new dress shirt. If I can't afford that dress shirt, I don't get to get it.

But healthcare is something that people need, especially if they have cancer. Well, you got to find a way to get it. Okay. Well, find a way to get it. Uh-huh. Also, Tom is spelled T-H-O-M, if anyone thought things couldn't get any worse. Right. Yeah.

Old Tom. and thought things couldn't get any worse right yeah that old bomb uh i don't know that i mean so his staff or his office was like they will be disciplined immediately but then they also went on like the most gop predictable and sad response is skirting the issue of what this person would like the heart of the matter which is like i wasn't treated with dignity as a human being who is one of your constituents and is concerned about their, like this is an existential issue I'm facing. Yes. Their office goes quote, Senator Tillis believes it's crucial.

We protect the health and safety of North Carolinians throughout this pandemic, which is why he has supported the administration's effort to require all Americans, regardless of their insurance status to be able to receive treatment if they get covet 19 senator tillis has also been pushing to guarantee that all americans with pre-existing conditions can get affordable health care that uh-huh but when you were like zero when you're working in the state government of north carolina he was also one of the people who was blocking the expansion of medicaid

uh and getting more people expanding medicaid under obamacare so it's just like this whole thing where you know tom tillis isn't willing to say it but i guess his staffers they all know what time it is uh so but it was just it's it's just really fucked up though when you you know like we know that's how the system works but to think of when you have these again this is like probably just like police brutality right these are only instances that are recorded because i'm sure there are plenty of people have recorded conversations with an insurance provider health care provider employer whatever pertaining to this it would be something like well i don't know if you want to buy that thing in the catalog you better scrounge up enough nickels so you can get that rc car it's like that's not what

what you're like that's something you explain to a child about responsibility and doing. Right, lemonade stands. Well, you have a lemonade stand, so you can buy stuff. But to an adult who survived cancer three times, and it's about health care and access to just staying alive.

Yeah, she just happened to get through to a staffer who was frustrated enough about not being able to buy the shirt he wanted at Joseph A. Bank to tell her the truth. Joseph A. Bank? I mean, it's just like, well, I try and go out and buy my dress shirts, you know? It was not a hypothetical. That was a very real experience for that fan. Where did you want to go?

Is it like Barney's or something? Oh, no, Joseph A. Bank. They have a great sale. You get three dress shirts for $17. Dress shirt is so funny. It's big and tall. I'm not exactly big, and I'm not exactly tall, but I'm right on the cusp of it.

So I try to go there to get a lot of my shirts. I feel like on that, and she's like, well, you as a staffer deserve to at least be able to afford Joseph A. Bank dress shirts. And then that radicalized. He's like, right? You know what? You know what? you as a staffer deserve to at least be able to afford joseph a bank dress shirts and then like that radicalized he's like right you know yeah you know what you know what i'm gonna run for president alexa download all the works of trotsky alexa how to run for president president this woman got me to see the light but yeah this is such a it really is a just dark dark chapter two uh and on top of this that they're just pointing to the fact that their sort of

little shred of humanity was that like well if you got covid we'd race for some of that can you go get that if you go get that we might try to get that, we might be able to help you out. Try to get that. Why don't you work on that? That's kind of what's in fashion right now. So if you can maybe get that. If you can go to college, you can get COVID. But I can't afford college. Well, look, if you can't afford a shirt, then you can't. Now it's a

college. It's literally education, Medicare. Yeah. It's so dark dark dark moments but yeah Tom Tillis there he is showing everybody what is going on what a fancy senator office or

senate administration where thumb and dress shirts both do you think he's just like ripping his staffers for having bunk ass dress shirts? Like that's why he mentioned that? Right, right. He's like, look, man, if I could wear the dress shirts Tom liked, I'd wear those too. And I wouldn't go home crying every day, but I can't.

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And we're all going to just be staying home, listening to the Monster Mash. Apparently. I got no issue with this. I'm going to be honest. I mean, for both of y'all being parents, how are you going to make it feel? You're just going to be like, look, dude,

I bought all that candy from the supermarket. That's just yours. Go off. Go off. Look, you can have my car for the night. I said this to my wife today. I said, I think we do the costume. Let's do it up. I was like, let's all do it up. I was like, but also, kind of behind her back, let's set up a little path that she can walk. So it's kind of like a haunted house on the property. As I was telling you, I have two tenants in the back who I know are equally youthful.

They would also be like, yeah, let's make it this badass thing for this one kid. And then you go, hey, remember, we didn't just do nothing. I mean, I could go on forever about this, but having a kid and having to adjust to pandemic-style stuff, I will say just having one kid, we give her so much attention. We try to fill that void of things. So while, yes, Halloween, you want to get with your friends and do all these things, we look at her and we go,

hey, we don't know when Halloween is back, but there is a chance it's maybe just this one time we got to do this other thing but what if this other thing is also really fun and we watch movies and shit like that house louine you know what i mean exactly you get it exactly you get it dude but jack your kids got costumes and stuff are they just gonna walk around the house what are you gonna do nah canceled canceled we going to burn the costumes and a pyre in the back. You know, there's also the route of like, you know, kids don't have calendars. They don't fucking know what Halloween is. Every time they come.

What are you talking about? Halloween? Nah, just gaslight them into thinking they made that up. Halloween? Oh my God, that's so far from now. That was like yesterday we had Halloween. Okay, then Copernicus, tell me what day it is. Yeah, yeah.

I'm sorry. Then why don't you tell me what it is? Daddy, I'm so sorry. Get your sundial out. Yeah. Daddy, I'm sorry. Do you want another drink? Yes!

Get me another drink. That day when the sky was orange that was Halloween you just missed it you slept right through it I told you to wake up but this is LA specific you know Garcetti our wonderful mayor who can't do

a single thing right but this thing he's out here saying look there's no parties we can't do halloween the official restrictions are this in la no door-to-door trick-or-treating so they're saying yeah there's no way people are crowding the streets you don't know what the fuck's going on we can't do that no trunk or treating either no i didn't know that was a thing he knows he's he knows all the little alleyways yeah i mean that would be a little weird where everybody pops their trunk

and it's just like a free-for-all. I would be like, that's a- Interesting that you would cancel the one event where everyone will definitely be in a mask. Right. Right. Exactly. Then there's saying no parties, obviously,

because the LA already has a terrible house party problem. Not even outdoors. So don't try that shit. No carnivals, festivals, live entertainment, haunted houses. They haven't said what the violation, like what happens if you violate. But they're saying the things that they are okay with, online parties.

Prayer. Prayer circle. Praying for the salvation of the city. This is honestly an attack on on fucking satan is what it is because everyone's still allowed to go to church you can do all these things but here it is the devil's christmas and there no one is allowed to get together and fucking hang out and exchange candy and wear masks and and also, it's a testament to how hard Garcetti usually goes on Halloween. The fact that he's like.

No, no. Car parades. It's like, no one's doing that. Well, we do it in my neighborhood every year and I love it. No orgies where you and your friends dress up as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. None of those. It's like, Eric, Jesus Christ. What?

No group master splintering. What? Yeah, you need to put the cards back closer to the chest. You're kind of showing a little too much. Hey, Jerry Falwell Jr., come on, man. Let everybody know what's going on. No way. The thing that he's like this thing of the car parades.

I like how this article goes on. For example, a car parade with people dressing in costume or decorating their vehicles and driving by socially distanced judges. That's so specific. That is too specific. That is a party planner got involved there

or somebody like that. I actually did this for Easter with my kids to like we drove around in a car that has cursing at people going to church yeah exactly it's not gonna help it won't help you're all gonna die if he's back then where is he if he's not already in hell huh you don't know this could be purgatory. But it is weird. It's a strange thing where the kids are like, I can't see anything. I can't see the other cars.

So it would be better if you were the judge or if the kids got to judge the cars. Yeah. I think what would be cool is you had groups of adults who just did flash mobs in the street, and the kids come out, and they're like, okay, that did like flash mobs in the street and the kids come out and they're like okay that group of drunk guys wasn't the funniest or the best but they were scary i don't know like a way to be like you know some entertainers get out there and

you're like watch from your windows but i say that like as if i would ever want to do that or i would even be excited to see that i know what is Some of these things he said we can't do, I'm like, yeah, that's great. I don't give a shit. And you know what? I don't want other people doing it either. But the Halloween movie nights at a drive-in theater, I feel like is probably the most seemingly safe thing that

still feels like a thing. I still haven't gone to a drive-in. Have you guys? I have not. No. I would. I'm not against it. Like I said, I'm very lazy, but I would do that. I still haven't gone to a drive-in. Have you guys? I have not. No. I would. I'm not against it. Like I said, I'm very lazy, but I would do that. I think that's cool. We just have to drive kind of further out, though, you know, like in the San Gabriel Valley or like deeper valley places.

So, you know, just maybe just, you know, buy one of those inflatable screens or something. Just get a projector. Inflatable screens? Yeah, like those big inflatable screens. I don't know. Look, I'm just thinking. SkyMall? You're doing some SkyMall purchases?

Hamacher Schlemmer, boy. Is that how you say it? Hamacher Schlemmer? What's the emphasis on that? I think it's choose your own adventure on where the emphasis goes. I heard they were in really bad shape. Who's that? Hamaker?

Hamaker? Slammer? Whatever. Hamaker? Slammer? Is how I pronounce it. The wrestler? Yeah.

Why? What? What happened? It's my finishing move. Yeah. Hamaker? Slammer? He's got hacksaw dug in against the ropes.

Hamaker? Slammer? Here comes Hamaker. Slammer. he's got hacksaw dug in against the ropes haymaker slammer here comes haymaker slabber uh let's talk about borat so apparently based on the reports coming out of tinseltown i'm glad you uh opened the story with that miles i like you like it's all timey sasha baron cohen uh has maybe already shot and edited a Borat sequel. Like just drop it on us like it's a Beyonce album out of the blue. It's I didn't know. Like I saw like a graphic today on Reddit that was showing like a graph of people who sued the Borat first movie, like the amount they were suing for and the amount they received in the settlement.

And it was kind of an interesting graph to see like what people were trying to get out of them but and i was like wait what's going on why is borat popping up and then you read uh in one of these magazines they're saying that uh you know what like there's a film it's been shot it's been screened to some people already uh and like the plot though they're like they don't really know or it's very nebulous at the moment but one of the things they do know is quote borat is no longer the little known kazakh tv personality he played in the original 2006 movie the public knows who he is now so he has to go undercover to interview people so this may be the thing where like people have seen him in the costume and people have seen s Baron Cohen doing stuff. Like,

you know, he, he had that like weird, like troll move at that far right rally. Yeah. And so I think a lot of people were like, Oh shit, was this stuff for the Borat movie where he,

so they're saying it's kind of getting meta where it's like, like Sasha Baron Cohen playing Borat, who's trying to play Sasha Baron Cohen. It's a, I don't know. It could go off the rails. I don't know, know but i have a it's just like kind of a as i think about it i'm like do i want this right now am i gonna get really bummed out like what i'm curious what the effect is of like sasha baron cohen like unmasking just like the ugliest parts of like the country is gonna feel like but yeah yeah well you you i here's why i like it the question no one asked um

i i like it because unmasking those those the the that evil it's that i mean that's what it is the the some of these like evils you want to show it because you want those people who, and I don't know how you can be on a fence, but those people who are on a fence, you want, hey, do you think you relate to this type of society? Because if you think that's wild, just know you seemingly are supporting it. So maybe come to this other side of the fence, maybe just for the next four years, do everybody a solid just for this, this November. I doubt it'll be out that soon, but, or maybe it is.

I don't know. Does it say that it's like, it's still, still details are murky, but it's, it's already in the can. So it'll be, yeah,

it'll be very interesting to see. Cause I didn't watch much of the, who is America thing that he did mostly because i don't have whichever showtime yeah so yeah i saw some of the clips i'm now like three shows in where that that are making me think i need to get showtime because apparently uh that kirsten Dunst show. So good. On Being a God in Northern Florida or whatever. Central Florida.

Love it. Central Florida. I hear it's amazing. I love it. So that's the latest one. What's it called? On Becoming a God in Central Florida. Oh, shit.

Okay. Dark comedy. And she is just incredible. She's awesome. But I recommend it. I think it's great. Oh, damn. All right I recommend it How much does it cost though? 800 a month Yeah I'd be down for sure Keep that offline

Edit that out Keep that in Maybe Showtime will give us a sponsorship now We're going to be Striminal Showtime. Here's your warning. You got some Striminals in the making. They got the Jesus Amaro show, too.

They got the... I watch all the YouTube clips. Right. I'm like, I guess I could pay. But then there's ways to see it. Shout out to Reddit. Are you guys watching The Vow? Sorry to throw that in, but...

Which one's The Vow? On HBO Max. NXIVM. Oh, no. I can only imagine. I was like, the 2012 movie with Rachel McAdams and Channing Tatum? Yes. That's The Vow?

It's finally streaming. I mean, Paige and Leo, what an on-screen couple i feel like we should talk about them more but no i haven't seen i just watched the adventure park one or class action park actually in jersey yeah that was kind of interesting because i it was like one of those cult things that the internet was obsessed with but like actually hearing all those people talk about it i was like oh wow yeah wow wow. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. But I heard it suffers from a lack of footage. There weren't a lot of people around filming people flying off of rides and shit.

No, there's a lot of diagrams where there was a loop-de-loop, and they're trying to get someone to go through. Just the way the owner's like, I'll give you $100 in 1980s, like a $ trying to get someone to go through and like just the way the owner's like i'll give you 100 bucks in 1980s like a 100 bill in 1980 to fucking break your body in this thing so we can figure out how to like re-tinker something so people don't get killed in it yeah that's unbelievable um but next year the nexium show like isn't wasn't like one of the people who was in the cult like also making a documentary film about it or something? Yes, which I was like... Which all kind of gets explained out,

but it really was... It's how a lot of things start, where it's like, oh, this is beneficial and helpful to people, and it brings a community together. And even though when I watch it, I go, oh, that's not for me, because that's not the social group setting I'm into.

To me, it's always a little too cheesy. Right. It seems a little like fabricated positivity, you know? Right, yeah. As opposed to gaining positivity from actual hardship. Self-awareness. I don't want to critique it, but then it layered in. self-awareness yeah i don't want to critique it but then it it layered in so the the guy you know the the people that have all the footage and stuff and a lot of people who were in nexium

it's not like everyone is like guilty of this thing it's like a lot of people that were sort of part of this organization that were unaware there was like another layer to it of things uh going on which you really even people that were in the thing that was going on. Even people that were in the thing that was going on seemingly unaware of the next thing that was going on. It's very bizarre. In a believable way?

Very believable way. You connect with them and you go, oh, I guess if you, in some ways, I know it's drink the Kool-Aid as a phrase, but if you drink the kool-aid and you go far enough you kind of start you have the blinders on to some things that maybe should be red flags but you actually don't see them you've retrained your brain to think well no that wouldn't be bad because i'm in that group and i'm not a bad person right right and it's the sunk

cost fallacy of like believing that well i've already spent all this time doing this. I might as well. Yeah, I might as well just keep going with it, even though it's like, oh, you're now going down all the way. At least Scientology is that. I hate that that would probably be me, just how much I... I notice myself doing that shit all the time. You just get so deep into Scientology, you're like,

oh, if I make thetan, I could be... Right. I've been here for so long, I might as well see it through. Yeah. I guess I want to learn the secrets. Also, they announced new Oscar diversity requirements or new Academy diversity requirements, which there's like, okay, so there's four. You need to be eligible for Best Picture starting in 2024.

A film must meet two out of these four standards. On-screen representation, themes, and narratives. B, creative leadership and project team. C, industry access and opportunities. D, audience development. It just seems very nebulous. What is audience development? Yeah just seems very like nebulous um what is obviously development yeah i don't i think it's like the marketing team has to be diverse i think so like all the any movie from the past would have hit this from the past couple years would have hit this because of like, like even the Irishman, uh, had like Netflix is super diverse marketing department and,

uh, two women executives who were on the team. So it's just seems like it's going to be very easy for people to kind of get around this. Like the thing that whenever you just make it boxes to tick, it's never going gonna bring about meaningful change because then it just becomes like it's like well you gotta get your oil change or whatever you know what i mean like there's has to be this actually people have to embrace the idea of what

you're doing with inclusion and representation it's not just like well i gotta do that if i want academy awards so i guess we'll do like just embrace it and think of the you know the people who have the power to make these films, you can actually do a world of good and make some money at the same time. It's the people you employ and the stories you want to tell. The thing we've seen work a little bit so far is making the voting body more diverse. They just haven't really gone that far.

It's still 67% male, 81% white. that far it's still like 67 percent male 81 percent white so like once they and even then like we're seeing more diverse movies like parasite and moonlight when like once they go the full way with actually making the academy more diverse like you i feel like you wouldn't need all these boxes to check i i i i was just uh the stuff with the the outrage yeah the outrage it's it's always from the exact people you think uh that it will be from and it's always those people who do not have a dog in the fight yes like they're like whoa at the mouth now kirsty yeah like imagine me being like wait it shouldn't be that way and people going well who who are you yeah who the fuck are you uh our writer jay mcnab pointed out that dean kane is uh is upset despite the fact that the rules don't take an effect until uh 2024 so

they shouldn't hurt the chances of his new movie agent toby barks which is about the the uh the tagline for agent toby barks is fight crime catch bad guys get belly rubbed and yeah with the voice of john luffin says the dog you bet um but that's what I mean. Dean Cain being like, whoa. It's like, what is your... I mean, I think someone like Dean Cain would go... And this is where, to me, the racial part of it comes in. You're almost like, well, now the movies won't be any good. It's like, think about what you're saying.

Because if you tweet anger about this, what is it? Are you saying, yeah, but I won't get work? You're Dean C kane no one gives a fuck yeah look at the fucking you're getting you're getting i don't even know how you're getting that work but you are getting work he's still coasting off lois and clark yes you know what i mean and he's like still like bro you that show ended in 97 so fall the fuck back like but but all industries for the most part there is a, there is a level of inclusion that is demanded in a lot of different industries of work. The fact that it's happening in this one, it's like, have you not seen when you are inclusive how much better things can be?

So what is your outlook? And if it's Dean Cain, itane it's like well i won't get work it's like you're not but you're not already yeah so then what is your problem and to me it's like immediately to like well then uh it's no one should just get to be in stuff yeah well they're not no one's getting to that's the problem that's why it's happening because no one's getting to be and stuff right oh it's so uh kirsty alley is uh what's she saying she said uh well what if they told picasso what he added to paint i had to paint pictures of um can she prove that they didn't yeah i know like honestly talk about all his young girlfriends you know right talk about pablo picasso can she prove that someone who gave him money to buy paint wasn't standing there going it's got to be a fucked up face dude or

i can't work with you he's like let me see what you did the last time you bought paint for me what the fuck is this photo realism you asshole you're fucking up my life pablo kirsty oh man i mean god to think she's like what is she mad about what is she mad about because there's it won't be anymore look who's talking sequels but i think there is i think there is one there are too many one involving like ants now like they're like we don't want to deal with her anymore how far away can we get from like the original plot how far can we be no no no no seriously look who's talking look bacteria holy shit look they're signing with their flagella has a voice covid yeah that that would be and it's still voiced by Bruce Willis. Yeah. Bruce Willis, his career.

Somebody was recently commenting on his career. It's been a while. It's been a while for Bruce. He's been in a lot of shit. He keeps going. Yeah, he keeps going, but he's gone down the path of Steven Seagal, where he's in 100 movies's in a hundred movies every year

that i've never heard of that yeah uh are just like action movies where he's just kind of trading in trading on uh john mcclain i think it's unfortunate too well i who knows maybe he loves doing that and they pay him enough so it's like who fucking cares but right he he i i didn't really like moonrise kingdom but he was fucking great in it like i think he's actually a really good comedic actor he might be very difficult to work with so he's probably maybe fucked himself but he is like he is really good when he plays like a real character and it's usually comedic he usually nails it yeah but yeah you're right it's always like john mclean like shades of gray john m, you're right. It's always like John McClane,

like shades of gray John McClane. Yeah. You think he's just hooked on production? That's what it is? He just loves, he's like, I don't care what the script is. Based on the interviews he does around the release of movies, he hates production.

He hates everything about all of this and is incensed that you're asking him a question. There you go. He hates all of it. What the fuck? What's the hook here, Bruce? Let us in. Why are you doing all these movies? Some of the movies he's been in in the past year,

Hard Kill, Survive the Night, Trauma Center, 10 Minutes Gone, Motherless Brooklyn. So that's something.'s something yeah see every now and then he like airstrike it's like reprisal it's like nick cage like every now and then i think when a director says i'm gonna give him no notes you get oscar nick exactly but then every now and then you're like does he know how to act and you're like you know what honestly when you're working that much you're probably like you know what fuck Honestly, when you're working that much, you're probably like, you know what?

Fuck this one. I'll show up. Yeah. It's like, ooh, ooh, this one. I'm going to go fucking, I'm going to go crazy. I'm going to do a lot of hallucinogens. Right. Wait, Michael Chiklis is in this one, 10 minutes gone.

So it's just two bald guys scowling on the poster. Every poster I'm looking at on the IMD page,uce willis just has to scowl in every poster like it's never like a confused face or like neutral so i was like what the fuck it's die hard die hard is what what did it like he suddenly had to be i think that movie did so well he was like this is who i am you do see some actors they have that role that fucking explodes and then they just try to stay that person. Maybe that's America's fault. He was... Oh, totally.

I think it's totally... When you talk about Kirstie Alley, the thing that she has gotten attention for in the past 10, 20 years has always been coming out with hot takes that are pro-Scientology, anti-the mainstream media. So I feel like, and with Bruce Willis,

it's all diehard stuff. Although my theory is that he deeply resents the fact that he got famous for doing action movies instead of for doing white guy blues, which was like his true passion. I remember that. Yeah, when Bruno. Bruno. The return of bruno uh you didn't even know he was missing but now he's back uh and that's when you know it's gonna

be fresh when you get something you didn't know was gone uh rory it's been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist man where can people find you and follow you this was so fun so thank you guys very much for having me on Instagram and Twitter I use them very sparsely but if you are interested at

Rory Scovel and then I would say at Rory Scovel for tour dates, but I don't know the next time those will be up there. So if you want more, I've got a podcast called Pimpals and a podcast called Dads.

Come on over and give us a gander. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media or some person that you enjoy that you want to recommend? I got to say, do you guys follow Vic Berger on Instagram? I mean, the king, right?

The best. I don't know that there is anything better that weirds me out and makes me cry laughing at the same time. Because I actually don't know how to even pull that. I don't know what part of my brain gets tickled by that, but that dude is the master. It's so strange and surreal and dark at the same time.

Just like, yeah. He's so good at finding those little, it's like micro gestures. Yeah. Yeah. And I just love that air horn that just goes off randomly. Works every time. Gets me every time.

It's been used a million times. Every single time'm like yes air horn uh miles where can people find you what's tweet you've been enjoying uh twitter instagram at miles of gray also my other podcast for 20 day fiance just talking about 90 day fiance hi and also i'm on sophia alexandra's other podcast private parts unknown uh this week. So check me out over there. Talking about all kinds of stuff. Racism, dating, orgasms. Who knows?

It's a mixed bag over there on that show. So you get a little bit of everything. So some tweets that I like. One is from at user grandpa. And the tweet is, imagine your car declines at the chiropractor and they just choke slam you through a glass table laughing I'm loving that

that genre of tweet yeah yeah where your card declined and then another one at violin bug just tweets oh sorry officer I just thought I could do all things through Christ who strengthens me laughing sorry officer i just thought i could do all things through christ who strengthens me some tweets i've been enjoying let's see numbers comms full uh pig pen and paper tweeted and drew

a picture uh baja blast sheep have you any wool and sheaja Blast Sheep, and it's pretty cool. I want to get it tattooed. Do you have space anymore? I know. It's getting full up. You have to cover that monster logo. Yeah. Also, Baja Blast Sheep is the same tune as Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and the ABC song.

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like the the music direction in that film is great uh but there's one track that i always remembered watching i just never knew the name of the song and now i know what it is and it's called manifold de amor by the latin playboys uh and it's just like a very like very slow moving somber uh like latin track and when you hear like the actual vocal part go off most people like if you're into like film scores and things that have been used in films you'll probably recognize this but either way it's just a great vibe just kind of get your blood pressure down heart rate down as you you know deal with the reality of a president who's playing down a pandemic. I prefer the sequel

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