The Daily Zeitgeist - Post-4th Special Episode 7.5.19

Episode Date: July 5, 2019

In this special 5th of July episode, Jack and Miles are joined by Super Producers Danl Goodman and Sophie Lichterman to talk what they personally find overrated and underrated. Happy 4th of July!  L...earn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:28 you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
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Starting point is 00:02:15 It is Jack O'Brien. Oh. It is the 5th of July, sir. Oh, it is? Yeah. Then why'd you have me come in here? What? On the 4th of July. This coming out the 5th? Yeah, this is coming out the 5th of July, sir. Oh, it is? Yeah. Then why'd you have me come in here? What? On the 4th of July.
Starting point is 00:02:26 This coming out the 5th? Yeah, this coming out the 5th. Okay, well, I'm supposed to be playing with fireworks. I know, but... And I have all 10 fingers. I was invited to your barbecue, so I real quick scheduled a passive-aggressive recording session to, you know... Break up the fun.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Break up the fun. session to, you know, break up the fun. And I also invited two of our co-workers who were invited. By the way, what's your name? Who are you? My co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Cool. That's me. Nailing it. Sick. A.K.A. Why'd you do this to me okay and we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the man behind the boards the finger behind the bomb drops uh he is we we wanted to let you guys get to know uh the man the myth the beard djil Goodman. And I actually have an AKA from Trite Gang themselves. TDZ, baby, air, horny like Danil, so let's smoke up like a bomb drop on this fuckery channel.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Hit a dab now. That's right, it's your boy DJ Danil. How's everybody doing? It is your boy. What was that, Bloodhound Gang? It was Bloodhound Gang yeah from Trite Gang and there was two other ones
Starting point is 00:03:47 that were very sweet I appreciate them from Best Tread they were sweet but they weren't up to your standards Bub Andrew I don't know I couldn't like
Starting point is 00:03:54 I could read them both if you'd like me to but it's just so honorable that I got one from JustTDZ aka himself Trite Gang is like legendary stuff
Starting point is 00:04:02 so I was like oh crap you always know it's good when it's coming from Trite Gang. And that's how I feel about it. And we are thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat. What? That's right.
Starting point is 00:04:10 You're getting to know the whole office. Wow. We're sixth of the office. At this point, nobody's not been on my conversation. I know. Should that be just all we say to introduce her? At this point. At this point, we put everyone on the air.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Hey, get the building manager in here. Fans of other podcasts on this network know her mellifluent voice from the background and the foreground of Behind the Bastards and many other podcasts. She is producer, super producer, in fact. Sophie Lichterman. What's up, Sophie? I liked your intro better than Miles's.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah. What'd I say? Miles was like, yeah. At this point, shit. Well, you know what? This is what happens when you had a sick 4th of July party planned, and then you're like, hey, emergency recording, really quick. Yeah, oh Oh shit we forgot
Starting point is 00:05:05 I have a brisket Smoking right now Yeah And if it's fucked up I'm I'll quit You should have thought of that Don't you have that like
Starting point is 00:05:12 Super cool like meat smoker Did you cook it with like Weird Italian spices We'll get to that Yeah I want the I want the hot takes We'll get to that These takes are gonna be
Starting point is 00:05:21 Very medium To mild Just so that everybody Gets a picture, Miles does have a chef's hat on, and Daniel and Sophie are wearing bathing suits with rubber ducky floaties. Waist floaters.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah, waist floatation devices. I actually took this one from my wife, so I'm sorry about that. But I can't swim, so that makes sense. You can't swim? No. For real? Yeah. What happened? That's a myth. I mean, not anymore. That's You can't swim? No. For real? Yeah. What happened?
Starting point is 00:05:45 That's a myth. Well, when I was, I mean, not anymore. That's a myth. This is embarrassing. That's my myth. When I was a kid, I was really allergic to chlorine, and saltwater pools weren't a thing at that point, so I couldn't take lessons. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Damn. I can float and stuff. I'm so sorry. I can float and stuff. It's not that true. So our format for today, guys, is going to be your standard format from the beginning of the Daily Zeitgeist. We are going to do a search history overrated, underrated, and a myth, and shit.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Shit. That's it. But we're going to do it from all four of us and we're gonna start with everybody's search history and uh in tradition of the daily zeitgeist i have not actually looked mine up yet like many of our guests you you guys probably don't even uh don't even hear that because we edit it out but almost every time we say and what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? The guest goes, oh, that is a good question. And then it takes a little. And then go, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I'm so sorry. And we say, don't worry, we edit this. But really, we are judging the shit out of them. But first, we're going to ask DJ Daniel. Wow. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? That was like an eight month pregnant pause right there. I know.
Starting point is 00:07:09 So it was still premature birth? Eight month pregnant? Very pregnant. Super pregnant pause. This is revealing about my self esteem. I will often search words that I say right after I say them to make sure that I
Starting point is 00:07:26 was saying the right word. I've seen you do it! I've seen you do it! You almost always use words correctly. Well, thank you. I appreciate that, but sometimes I will say... Did you just hear how he used appreciate? That? Oh my god. Appreciate what? Appreciate what, my man? That? I was with my parents in the
Starting point is 00:07:41 airport, and I said that we were on the precipice of change, and I was like, wait, was precipice the right word? Damn. Damn. Were you giving a speech about- Who fucked you up in your head that you had to second guess all your words? I did. I fucked myself up in my head.
Starting point is 00:07:54 When you said, my sister is revealing about myself, I think it'd be like, Daniel Hot? Engineer Daniel, background hot. DJ Daniel wiki feet wiki feet who's hotter Daniel or Nick what's your feet look like
Starting point is 00:08:10 fine I don't know how long are your toenails right now they're very normal length thank you very much are you pretty good about being on top
Starting point is 00:08:17 of your toenails yes okay that's good to know toenails especially what about you Sophie what about me oh your toenail
Starting point is 00:08:23 your search history yeah oh shit that's right. Yeah, I just had foot surgery. I just had foot surgery. Thanks, Miles. Sore subject, literally. Literally very sore subject. I really stepped in at that time.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Sort of like you. Wow. Hey, that was a low blow. I don't even know what that means. HR. A low blow. HR. So, Sophie. HR. Low blow. A low blow. HR. Like, HR took your foot. So, Sophie.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Sir. What is something from your search history? I got two. They're very different. The first one is bacteria in bathrooms. Like, how to reduce your germ and bacteria intake in your bathroom. I got, like, an Instagram ad for some sort of like loofah alternative. Cause it's like a microfiber type thing because apparently those like really
Starting point is 00:09:11 lovely loofah sponges are just cesspools. They're just cesspools. And like, I was like, no, I mean, do you ever wash? So what's the alternative?
Starting point is 00:09:21 It's like this, it's made by a company that's like, it's like washing sponges as well. Bowie USA or something like that. Well, so sponges, I've like done some research into washing sponges and basically, ultimately what I learned is like,
Starting point is 00:09:33 just throw your sponge away after like three weeks. Yeah. It's not even worth it to just like wring it out. They said that even the microwaving, it doesn't fix it. This is like the alternative. They don't even taste better. Body scrubber. It's kind of weird looking. I just fix it. This is like the alternative. It's like a body scrubber.
Starting point is 00:09:48 It's kind of weird looking. I just ordered it. I'm excited about it. I think I saw this on Instagram. That's where I saw it too. Yeah, it looks like a UFO. It's like patented. I'm hyped. So it's just like a disc of plastic that you rub on your body. Is it soft in any way? It's seamless bristles is how it's described.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Seamless bristles. I don't know. That's one of my AKAs. Oh, tight, tight, tight, tight, tight. All seamless bristles. Tight. My other thing from my search history is why is Justin Bobby still hot? Why is Justin Bobby still hot?
Starting point is 00:10:21 Who's Justin Bobby? The Hills. Come on. Oh, yeah. The dude with the long hair? The dude that, like... Was he with Adrena? Yeah, we're combat boots to the beach, bro. What, that was the dude who was dating Adrena?
Starting point is 00:10:32 Yeah, the, like, captain of, like, all fuckboys. There is... Captain of the SS fuckboy. He's, like, he's, like, very, like... Yeah, that's him now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks like Zac Efron cosplaying as... Johnny Depp? No, Jason Momoa. Oh, Jason Momoa, that's better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks like Zac Efron cosplaying as- Johnny Depp.
Starting point is 00:10:45 No, Jason Momoa. Oh, Jason Momoa. That's better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see that. But I was like, I mean, I'm a fan. And so I was like- I watched The Hills and I don't remember that dude at all.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Dude, he was in like every episode. He used to wear like a hat and shit. He looked all like a fucking weird hipster. He was always on a motorcycle. He had like the motorcycle with like, and he would just, yeah. I always on a motorcycle. He had the motorcycle with the... And he would just... Yeah. I never watched the show.
Starting point is 00:11:08 He had the motorcycle with the thriller arms. Yeah, you're not a fucking white woman. I mean... But you do watch The Bachelorette. You do watch The Bachelorette. I was about to point that out. And you just wait until August rolls around and I'm completely back on my pumpkin spice bullshit.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It'll be back 100%. Oh, I forgot. I forgot. It's coming back, baby. You just wait. People don't know this about him. There is a shadow history of the Daily Zeitgeist that is produced by Sophie Lichterman
Starting point is 00:11:33 because she pitches me stories every morning that are the hills. Did you talk about what happened on the hills last night? Did you talk about this extremely Gen Y, young millennial shit that I pay attention to? Do you see how you don't have a lot of wrinkles right now? Yeah. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah, that's why. That's exactly why. Keeping you young. Uh-huh. That's the secret. Actually, the secret is Google stuff young kids look at. The secret is TMZ.com and E! Online. There you go.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Did you see this story about Kobe's accuser? No, I won't say that. God damn it, Jack. All right. How many minutes? Okay, we lasted 10 minutes. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. All right, Sophie.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Great search histories. Miles, do you have a search history? I still don't have one. All right, what's yours, man? I looked a couple things up. First was just Marianne Williamson. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Because- Who dat? I think she's tight in the most opposite terrible way. And then also I was searching about hip pain. Hip pain? Yeah. That's concerning. What's been causing your hip pain?
Starting point is 00:12:36 I don't know, man. I was like, because I'm fucking podcasting and shit being in an office. I need to strengthen my hips is what I realized. Is it that your dog pulls you too hard or something? No, that's you. Sorry. Yo, you need to hit the tennis court with me and Nick. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Me and super producer Nick Stump. Oh, yeah. Maybe. When are y'all going? Thursdays. Okay, yeah, maybe. We should do a group workout. Sick, dog.
Starting point is 00:13:02 That's not tennis. But we should do a group. Sorry. Basketball. That's him. That but we should do like a group. Sorry. Basketball. That's okay. Like one of those like... Let's go for a hike. Let's go to the Coanga Peak. I wasn't thinking hike, but I was thinking we should do one of those. But hiking is great. At least that's what I say on my Bumble profile.
Starting point is 00:13:16 But the stretching. The stretching classes. I need a little more than stretching at the moment it's like yoga but for like people that are like injured
Starting point is 00:13:28 sedentary yeah oh injured like it's like physical therapy it's almost like man watch me be the youngest fucking person
Starting point is 00:13:34 and people are like triple my age it's really cool actually like yeah it's cool yeah yeah how much does it cost well I don't know
Starting point is 00:13:42 off the top of my head cost money it definitely costs money then that's a joke. To have a stretch in class? But I was thinking if we could do a YouTube workout as a team once a week. Wow. We'll think about that.
Starting point is 00:13:52 We have space. We have space. We just need a sponsor. We need a Tybo sponsor. Man, Billy Blanks. Let's get Billy Blanks in the mix. My high school girlfriend's mom used to personally train with Billy Blanks. Really?
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah, he was at a house party and I thought I was tripping. That's a pretty deep connection. What is Ty Bo do doing here? What's the other girl from high school who had a tenuous claim to celebrity? Oh, the other homegirl whose godmother's house was used in the Fly video by Sugar Red?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Is that the most circuitous celebrity connection that you have? I'm in the background of He Got Game. You are? Really? When they interview Rick Pitino. Are you fucking for real? Rick Pitino's in the background, real blurry, shooting. And you can tell it's me because I have
Starting point is 00:14:36 a real fucked up shooting form. And so everyone's like, yo! Wow, prepare to be gift, bro. That's funny. Yo, Zyking, get on that. I was going to say Zygang, that's all you right now Pulled Jack's wetty jump shot in the back of fucking He Got Game Yeah, big for me, man That was big
Starting point is 00:14:52 What about you? Did you finally find something in your search history? Yeah, Mexico hail storm What happened? Did you see that shit? No It was like six, it was like multiple feet of hail Whoa, what? That just came out of nowhere in Mexico a couple days ago.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Oh, my God. And I found this shit as I was talking on the Daily Zeitgeist about how good weather forecasting had gotten. Oh, my God. Isn't that a crazy amount of hail? It's like up to the second feet of hail. Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's like, well, I don't know meters.
Starting point is 00:15:21 No, Google it. It's wild. The picture. What, Mexico hailstorm? Yeah, Mexico hailstorm. That makes me- Guadalajara, I believe. know meters. Google it. It's wild. The picture. What, Mexico hailstorm? Yeah, Mexico hailstorm. That makes me- Guadalajara, I believe. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Yeah. Whoa. Oh. Oh. Does your insurance go up? That's my- Do you have hail insurance? I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Well, then whose fault is it for not preparing? I mean, mine, but car insurance is not a hobby. Anyways. What? I hate mine, but car insurance is not a hobby. Anyways. What? I hate it. That shit is wild. People should Google it themselves. But it turns out there are only so many things the weather can forecast because nobody saw
Starting point is 00:15:55 this shit coming. And it's- Yeah, apparently. Yeah. Beat the shit out of an entire town known as Guadalajara. It's wild. Guadalajara. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I want to go to Mexico, though. I was just talking to a couple who was living down there for a couple years. You simply must. They gave me some secret towns that I got to travel to that I won't tell any of you guys about. Have you been to Mexico? George Bush already owns them. So I went to Tulum like seven years ago.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Was it before the wave came? Yeah. Yeah. Sophie is getting sued multiple times for her use of Cardi B's. I did not go, I said, very different. That's the less cool version.
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Starting point is 00:20:27 unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back!
Starting point is 00:21:00 And it's time for some over-unders, guys. Do you guys want to start with overs? Unders? I'm down for either. I got them all ready. All right, let's do unders. Underrated?
Starting point is 00:21:11 Underrated. Tuscany. Oh, you motherfucker. You simply must. I mean, you simply must go to Tuscany. That was so cheap. No, underrated. I wrote down L'Ampredotto.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Okay, what is that? The official sandwich of Florence, Italy. Jesus Christ. It's made of tripe, stewed tripe, and I'm not the... For real?
Starting point is 00:21:35 I mean, I'll eat tripe, yeah, in certain contexts, but I don't gravitate towards it. Yeah, because it is shit. It's a stomach lining. All right. It's intestinal. Yeah, well, if you don't... If you don't clean it. If you don't wash it lining. All right. It's intestinal. But yeah, well, if you don't wash it out, it tastes terrible, right?
Starting point is 00:21:48 So this sandwich, it's fucking immaculately clean. And then it's stewed. And it just has this texture on this bread. I didn't know there were still sandwiches that I did not know about. I know most cold cuts of meat and other constructions of things between two breads. But when I had this, my goodness. Uh, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Most of my things are gonna be food related. I mean, mine kind of piggybacks off of that one. Sorry. Lampredotto. Lampredotto. Oh, Lampredotto. Lampredotto. Lampredotto.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Lampredotto. L-A-M-P-R-E-D-O-T-O. Lampredotto, dude. Yeah, Lampredotto. Oh, Lampredotto? My underrated is... Lampredotto. Lampredotto. L-A-M-P-R-E-D-O-T-O. Lampredotto, dude. Yeah, Lampredotto. Oh, Lampredotto? My underrated is... Lampredotto. It's perfecting something simple.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And this goes out to many different things. Namely, food. What are you, fucking Zen over here? I like this. I got one shot. I got one shot right now. Do not miss your chance to blow. This opportunity comes in a long time.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Once in a lifetime, you better lose stuff. Mom's spaghetti. So, perfecting something simple. And it goes to what you're shot right now. Do not miss your chance to blow. This opportunity comes in a lifetime. You better lose stuff. Mom's spaghetti. So perfecting something simple, and it goes to what you're saying right here. And I find that with a lot of foods, the simpler the preparation, the more it's down to like the one thing being done well, the better it is.
Starting point is 00:22:56 You could go back way, way, way back to like a good old Stradivarius violin right there. It's like that thing has been the same for years and years. You're on Antiques Roadshow. I like this. It's Stradivarius. the same for years and years and years. Wow, I'm at Antiques Roadshow. I like this. It's Stradivarius. This is Stradivarius. Have you gone to Sharper Image and tried their Stradivarius, man?
Starting point is 00:23:10 That shit is dope. It has glowing LEDs on it, I know. It does. Which usually appeals to me. Wait, there's a Sharper Image version of a Stradivarius? Of a Stradivarius, yeah, dude. Oh, I thought you were making that up. No, I'm totally making that up.
Starting point is 00:23:20 That's the way Jake Busey was playing Starship Troopers. Right, exactly. I will always talk about that I love that movie, that's a good movie I saw that movie when I was way too young My sister saw that movie at the same time My sister's nine years younger than me When she saw the movie she was like, I like the bug movie
Starting point is 00:23:33 And I'm sitting there crying The dude's face melted This goes out to the burgers that I love so much Burgers never said, I go check it out, it's great, smash burgers But the whole idea is that it's just Meat and a little salt, a little pepper You smash it on the grill and it's perfect It's but like the whole idea is that it's just meat and a little salt a little pepper you smash it on the grill
Starting point is 00:23:46 and it's perfect it's done perfectly you don't need a lot of shit smash it smash it minimalism smash that name is what I say
Starting point is 00:23:53 yeah minimalism but also just like nailing the one thing perfecting something simple sure smash that name is what I say you didn't react
Starting point is 00:24:00 so I just wanted to talk smash no about burgers never die oh burgers never say die. It sucks. But I guess the burgers are good. I mean it does sound like one of those. Was it Billy Wayne Davis who was talking about a Portland bar
Starting point is 00:24:12 that's named like you know I met her over there on a Tuesday. And that's the name of the bar. It does kind of fall into that category. Sophie Lichterman What is something you think is underrated so i got several most of which are women and then one is an app which would you like me to start with uh you do it whatever you're on here obviously i'm starting with the women let's hear them um
Starting point is 00:24:38 wendy williams super underrated in one way in one way she had her husband had a whole baby on her and look at her hosting her show. He had a baby on her? Wow. How did he do that physically? You guys are messed up. And she's just out here living. A whole baby?
Starting point is 00:24:54 She literally looks like a snack and a half. She's out here hosting her own. She took him off the producing credit. Bye. And is just out here. I love her. Okay. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:25:09 How you doing? I mean, that was a way better imitation. Yeah, I feel like she's properly rated, but okay. Shout out to you holding yourself down. I feel like she's underrated. Okay, next up, Jeannie Buss, underrated. Super underrated.
Starting point is 00:25:23 She lived under her... Don't even make that face, Jack O'Brien. She had to live under her dad's shadow, and then she had to come in, and her brother fucked all this shit up, and now she's out here holding her own and has to deal with all these problematic men all the time. Should we just move on?
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah. Let's just move on. All right, next is Desi Lydic from the Daily Show. I wish y'all could see the face later. Okay. We're not. Okay. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:49 We're not going there. We're not going there. Do you want to talk about this right now? Are you sure? I can't. Do we want to go here? I don't want to go here. She doesn't even go here.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Okay. Next is Desi Lydic from The Daily Show. She did that special abroad. It was really good on Comedy Central. She also does Desi Lydic woman splains all the time on The Daily Show. She's awesome. All the female presidential candidates, even if you don't like their politics, shout out to
Starting point is 00:26:20 Tulsi Gabbard even? I mean, no. Fuck. Let's just leave her. Marianne Wilson even? I don't like how hard you stuck to your gun. Nah. Fuck that. But, you know, Kirsten, Elizabeth, Kamala.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah, Klobuchar, do your thing. Kamala. KJilly. Yeah, like. Kamala. Oh, KJilly, yep. Yeah, KJilly. Here's a little tip for you guys.
Starting point is 00:26:44 The way to remember how to pronounce Kamala Harris's name is Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. Like Kamala wife. Like Kamala. Actually, a cuter way to remember her name is that her stepchildren call her Mamala. Mamala? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Oh, wow. Yeah. Mamala. She got stepchildren? Yeah. Does she have her own children? No. So she has a, oh, from her husband?
Starting point is 00:27:06 From her husband. Stepchildren are her own children, Miles. She has a, yeah, she doesn't believe in the word stepchildren. My stepmom ain't my mom. Damn. She doesn't believe the word is stepchildren. She doesn't believe the word stepmom. That's why they call her Mamala.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Okay. Oh. Just like a little fun fact. Okay. And then the last thing that is not. I mean, that could also be a dick move where they're like, all right, I love you, mom. Mala. Like, she thinks she's getting the mom, and then they complete it with the mala.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I just feel like that's coming from inside your heart and not theirs. Or like how Italians call people a mama luke. A stupid person. Hey, you mama luke. Mention Italy one more time. That's like more Italian American. And then lastly, shout out to the Target app. The Target app.
Starting point is 00:27:48 That sounds really fucking weird, but it's amazing. Shout out to the Target. Because literally, if you are anywhere and there's a Target, you can get around that shit by using the Target app because it tells you where everything is in each aisle and it's numbered and it's amazing and you get codes. Yes, Daniel. Okay, total question about that
Starting point is 00:28:05 so like codes thing do you also get to like build up target points where you can like get shit for cheaper or something I'm actually not sure it's not a sub shop Dan
Starting point is 00:28:14 okay alright you're really interested in that huh well I'm just saying you don't target a lot no what I was gonna say though is that like this whole
Starting point is 00:28:20 apping is similar like what's happening with Netflix and all of these whatever things it's just trying to get everybody like locked into their service where it's like ooh if I go to Starbucks 17 more times is that this whole apping is similar to what's happening with Netflix and all of these whatever things. It's just trying to get everybody locked into their service
Starting point is 00:28:26 where it's like, ooh, if I go to Starbucks 17 more times, I might get one free latte. No, I don't think Target's like that, but you can get access to coupons
Starting point is 00:28:34 and there's cartwheel deals and things like that. I don't know why I came for you like that. Ralph's does that and it totally makes me go back to Ralph's instead of Superior.
Starting point is 00:28:40 What, Wine Club? It's okay. You're a Ralph's guy? I'm a Ralph's guy. Superior Warehouse? No, instead of Superior Grocer're a Ralph's guy? I'm a Ralph's guy. Superior Warehouse? No, no. Instead of Superior Grocery Outlets. There you go.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I mean, I'm getting jumped in right here, so feel free. Yeah, that's right. Also, speaking of Starbucks, Starbucks Refreshers. Yo. Strawberry lemonade. Underrated. Underrated. Hell yes.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I hope that check is good. You're welcome. Starbucks. Have you ever been to Starbucks? Starbucks Target. Actually, all that shit is housed in a Target. Yeah. Is your blood type Target?
Starting point is 00:29:09 It's Nordstrom, but thank you. Yeah. It's funny because in Italy, they don't have Target. Yeah. They have this thing called Co-op that's really cool too. Fans, let us know how many times Miles mentions Italy in this episode. Oh, shit. Daniel just jumped off the building.
Starting point is 00:29:30 He left us. I can't jump through the poison window oh yeah don't let people know about our poison window they already uh that was probably the funniest thing ever was when egger mom found out about it he almost left yeah he almost freaked out what's the poison window it's just that so when they when they glue they had to glue all this in right here and it's like some of those glues are not necessarily super safe and whatnot. And it's just kind of all sealed in there. So, you know. HR. And the dude who put it in there died in there.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Yeah, his body's still there. It's crazy. Old bones, we call them. You know all the apps, and not all the apps, but most of the popular apps in China are super apps where KFC has like an uber application inside their app so like you like to go into the KFC and then you can order a car to take you to the KFC or anywhere yeah that's how apps like and all this hyper integrated yeah and the other thing I
Starting point is 00:30:22 found out China is like this alternate version of America's economy where things are different. But that was very well put. Thank you. Even if that's not 100% true, I like it. Doesn't have to be. Over there, all podcasts are subscription-based. That's why it's not taking off, huh?
Starting point is 00:30:47 No, it's like a $2.5 billion industry. What the fuck? Okay, nihao. Wadu, chung wadu, pengyo. Nihao. That's what Creed says in the office when he says, I want to give a shout-out to my friends in Hong Kong. And he goes, wadu, chung wadu.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Underrated as Miles' memory of office shit you already gave your underrated right? yeah I'll do the videos of Brett Weinbach we're talking about men giving birth all over people ultimate drum technique
Starting point is 00:31:18 is great and also men giving birth and my backup under a is time fluctuation because having kids i have realized that time is different for them because they have fewer uh experiences so every experience is like one of a hundred as opposed to one of a million right uh and so yeah that that's why you know when there's something they want and they can't get it, they start losing their shit because, you know, it feels like it's lasting forever to them.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Underrated wisdom. It's time fluctuation, Miles. Okay. Experience. That's right. Hell yeah. Yeah, because babies, like like they don't know shit I mean I don't know why I just
Starting point is 00:32:08 didn't let you do it cause I mean fuck is your problem babies learn something man I'm tired of teaching y'all well also I guess because looking at the number of people who've used drugs we were talking while you were gone Miles how it's a
Starting point is 00:32:24 very small portion of the population who has used drugs we were talking while you were gone miles how it's a very small portion of the population who has used drugs most of the population doesn't realize how much time dilates and stretches out when you're on various drugs really true yeah so i'm living in slow motion that's right um so my reaction is so quick time Time is like a concept, man. Cool. Nailed it. And moving on to overrated, or I guess we- We got overrated in myth. We got overrated in myth.
Starting point is 00:32:53 We are at 30 minutes. Holy shit. I feel like we're at like- Right. Holy shit. We're at 25 minutes. Holy shit. Get this thing under control.
Starting point is 00:33:06 What is something you think is overrated, man? Overrated? I said good graphics. Now, what I mean by this is that too many things, franchises are holding their weight on something looking good. And I want to preface this by saying that I think people who do VFX art, people who do like, you know do animation and that kind of stuff are incredibly talented.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And what they do is amazing. But a movie resting its laurels on something looking good or amazing, I think is not valid anymore. I respect that. That's where I'm at. That kind of is part of my overrated. No way.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Yeah. Crazy. But yeah, it's just like we keep, Miles talks about The Division 2 a lot and I played that game a lot as well. And way. Yeah. Crazy. But yeah, it's just like we keep, you know, Miles talks about The Division 2 a lot, and I played that game a lot as well, and it looks amazing. It looks like shit after a while. It plays like shit, and there's a lot of things that are wrong with it outside
Starting point is 00:33:54 of it looking good, but so many people are just like, this game, just, oh, look, it's like DC, like exactly, and that's awesome. That's fantastic, and the fact that Ubisoft had enough money and resources to pour into it to make that happen is fantastic. DC like Washington, DC? Like Washington, DC.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Why would that be something that you would want to replicate? I don't know. Talk to the people who produced Division 2. I'm just playing DC. I love y'all. Aesthetics are overrated because we're also living in a world where we have people who are fucking evil that look good on camera. Yes. That isn't quite connecting the dots in people's brains.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yeah. Where they're like, oh, but this person looks nice. That's my manager. Can you? Wow. I just missed my shift at Subway again. I'm going to get fired. Like, you know, like you look at like Ivanka Trump, for example.
Starting point is 00:34:49 You know what I mean? She looks nice. She doesn't look like a fucking goon or something, even though she is on the side of absolute evil. Hey, wait a second. Yeah. Hold on. Buckle up. Team Ivanka.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And just like even when you look at like, like we were talking about the like Trump ads that have like these models in it. Like it's people are very disarmed by things that are aesthetically pleasing. And I think in terms of like, when we're showing this like government for what it is, like they're getting away with a lot too, because I think we live in this like TV aesthetic focused era.
Starting point is 00:35:23 We're like, yeah, well like, you know era where like yeah well like you know like Ivanka doesn't have a hunchback and like fangs coming out so like yeah she's totally chill not anymore man she's not a horrible monster
Starting point is 00:35:31 she got that chin implant put in but she's a fucking monster and all these people are monsters and don't be fooled by shit that looks good also because it's
Starting point is 00:35:39 I think a lot of times we take oh look good for it is good right or like or immoral fair but you know shout out to all the beautiful people my overrated is I think a lot of times we take, oh, look good for it is good. Right. Or like immoral.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Fair. But, you know, shout out to all the beautiful people. My overrated is ugly people. Try harder. Pay attention to yourself. HR? Do you not have a mirror? No.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Get your shit together, smart puggos. What are you doing? You're going to let me do this? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your overrated? So in honor of it being July 5th, my overrated is fireworks because they don't last very long and you never know when they're coming, like men. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:36:18 But don't you know when they're coming? Wow. Not always because people just do them in the middle of the night and make up. Scorched earth. And just upset all the dogs in the neighborhood. Wow. just do them in the middle of the night and make up and just upset all the dogs in the neighborhood. Wow, people do them
Starting point is 00:36:28 in the middle of the night like men. Like men. Wow. Hey, when are you opening for Chelsea? Shout out to Chelsea and I listen to her podcast.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I produce it. There you go. Also, Overrated is Victoria's Secret. It's so trash. Preach. Exactly. Preachach Nothing fits
Starting point is 00:36:45 Literally nothing fits It's overpriced And you go in there You get measured They always measure you wrong It's yeah It's whack They never have your size in store
Starting point is 00:36:55 They don't do half sizes It's messed up Messy Yeah They don't have room in the crotch So like here According to some message boards I go on Right Then I don't have room in the crotch. So I'm here. According to some message boards I go on.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Right. What else was I going to say? Oh, you know, do you think, I was going to say the NBA has become overrated. I agree. It's not a competitive league. It's not a fucking sports league anymore. It's entertainment. It's entertainment.
Starting point is 00:37:22 It's very Hollywood. Social media has a big impact on it. I mean, but I still enjoy watching it. I enjoy watching it, but I don't. You don't like the spectacle. It's taken on a whole other thing. As a social media thing? Not even as a social media thing, like as a sports league.
Starting point is 00:37:39 So many, actually, you know, and this goes along with many other team sports, professional sports. Completely agree. Just the concentration of talent and money is like so lopsided in certain areas where it's like, yeah, I mean, there are these other teams, but we're really just talking about these three teams. Right. Or we're talking about these two teams or in some like. I mean, the Hollywood aspect of it is, it's a lot. Sure. But I guess even just from like, you know, the days are gone of like, there were many competitive teams.
Starting point is 00:38:03 It's like, if you want to win, you have to be very... It is not competition anymore. Yeah, you have to be very intentional about like, where you're going, what the teams are being put together. And, you know, who knows? By the time we record this, Kawhi Leonard could be a Laker. I don't know. Which it only...
Starting point is 00:38:16 And then everything is fair. No, not even then. And it's all good. And I'm kind of like, fine. But like, you know... My anxiety... Yeah. Do you think... Or he could be a Raptors though. I don't know. As we record this, like, you know. My anxiety, yeah. Do you think there could be a Raptors though?
Starting point is 00:38:26 I don't know. As we record this, we don't know. Do you think there is a sport or activity that is balanced for competition? Is there any activity out there? Like individual sports. Okay. Like tennis. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:38 You know what I mean? Like you're just, you're that one person. Right. Although, man, there was that time when tennis, like when Pete Sampras was always winning and he was like the most boring athlete. Even Roger Federer is still crushing it. But I guess in turn, it can be lopsided because
Starting point is 00:38:54 one person may be so talented, but it's not like when you have super teams. Of course they're going to fuck you. That doesn't bother me at all. It bothered me when Durant went to the Warriors after they won the most games ever. I mean, LeBron going to Miami bothered me. That didn't bother me at all.
Starting point is 00:39:10 The decision bothered me. That's special. The decision bothered me. That was dumb. Yeah, that was bad. Like the spectacle of it. Him going to Miami didn't bother me. I was tired of seeing him have to lose on Cleveland teams
Starting point is 00:39:22 that didn't give him anything to work with. I mean, speaking of the spectacle and Hollywood and all that, I'm also a little bit over remakes. Oh, yeah. Like Space Jam 2. I mean, obviously... Okay, you know what?
Starting point is 00:39:33 That's a sequel. Yeah, but you know what I mean? Park that outside. But you know what I mean? That's all that they're doing right now. I mean, that is related to... Okay, this is a take from 2013. Okay, whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I'm kind of hyped that they... What's with all the remakes? What's a take from the 60s? I mean, I'm hyped that they announced this week that Halle Bailey of Chloe and Halle is going to be Ariel in Little Mermaid. That sounds cool. How Melissa McCarthy is going to be related to her. That's a live action remake.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Yeah, but did we have to do Dumbo? Did we have to- There's just so many- Well, just ask the marketing people who are at the studios who basically decide what needs to be made because they're like I think this is going to be profitable so we'll make it
Starting point is 00:40:08 it's not about did we have to do like another Men in Black no no we did not need it we didn't even need
Starting point is 00:40:14 Men in Black 2 but I was going to say I mean so there was a time when I was your age young woman when
Starting point is 00:40:20 sequel all sequels sucked yeah and Gerald Ford was present and Jerry Ford Gerald Ford was present. And Alan. Jerry Ford was called in. No, there was a time.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I think it started with the Fast and Furious franchise when all of a sudden the fifth one was the best one in the franchise. And it was way better than any of the other movies in the franchise. And it was just like, wait, what just happened? That never happens. I feel like the Toy Story movies just keep getting progressively better as well. I agree.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I haven't seen four. So this is a flawed take that I have. Well, I get what you're saying. Mostly I'm just like, did we need Dumbo? Wow. Okay. You really got a vendetta against Dumbo. I mean, it was on pay-per-view before I didn't even know it was in theaters.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I do think the live action remakes of animated classics are probably not going to stand the test of time. That's how I feel as well. I'm curious how Lion King does. I'm anti-Lion King. Yeah, well, look, Dumbo, fine. I think after a while, though, the nostalgia is just going to wear thin. Right. You can only circle back on these time-honored, beloved films
Starting point is 00:41:22 where we're going to be like, yo like now we need a claymation Lion King right yeah I don't know also how come you're anti Lion King well this I mean this goes back
Starting point is 00:41:33 you don't like Beyonce I love Beyonce and I think the music that's gonna come out of that is probably gonna be great it'll be a bunch of great what's your favorite Beyonce song
Starting point is 00:41:40 what is this Flawless first of all I'm not even we're not even doing this but yeah Flawless maybe Sing a not even we're not even doing this but yeah flawless great maybe single ladies we're not even doing this do you know the dance i'm not doing this i do know the single ladies can we do it together sometime oh sure um anyway so lion king oh my god sophie this goes back to the whole graphics thing where it's like that movie is the same movie as
Starting point is 00:42:03 the original lion king a lot of the original storyboarders and writers are not getting paid. All of that stuff. At all. Yeah. And it's like, that's the kind of thing where it's, that movie is going to be the same movie. Also, in my personal opinion, the Disney movies, they got all of that personality from the way that they animate the faces of these creatures. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Not from them looking like animals. Right. And that is not going to make me be like, oh, cool. of these creatures. Right. Not from them looking like animals. Right. And that is not going to make me be like, oh, cool. Zazu is like totally funny and quirky. With a dead expressive bird face. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Just a non-expressive bird. Also Seth Rogen. John Oliver. Seth Rogen. That's all. I'm just going to throw it out there. What about him? He's in the remake. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:41 He plays Timon or Pumbaa? He's Pumbaa. He's probably Pumbaa. He's Pumbaa. I think Billy Eichner is Timon. Oh, I like that. Yeah. But still, it's like...
Starting point is 00:42:48 But Seth Rogen... But it's just... They're just animals. They're just animals with the voice. Wow, shade. They're just animals with the voices. You're not going to have the same kind of emotional connection.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Although, I didn't see Jungle Book, but everyone was like, man, the new Jungle Book is actually pretty good. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. Oh, I saw it. Did you like it? In theaters?
Starting point is 00:43:06 No, I did not. It was not worth it. That's not how animals actually don't talk, so I was completely checked out. What the fuck is this? There's no expression there. That's the thing. Animals don't have that.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Also, I saw on Reddit someone color graded the shots from the live action lion king to mimic more the colors uh colors of the animated version and i was like damn like even if you just color graded it differently it would look better rather than like trying to keep it so like this is what the sunset looks like why can't it be bright red yeah um uh my overrated is conventional wisdom i already hate it. By the end of those two words, I hated it. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Did you take a philosophy class recently? No, I was a philosophy major. The passing of time. Were you really? Yeah. That's awesome. That's it. Conventional wisdom.
Starting point is 00:44:00 What do you mean? Sick? Nope. Just like old. No, I mean, i was thinking about it because we were talking about ufos and like just the idea like that i have lived with my whole life that there's no way ufos are real and that they haven't visited us and that it would be wild brother truth is out there dog now the air force is like i we, we don't know what this shit is. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:25 I don't know, man. After 2016, uh, election, obviously I think people were like, yo, conventional wisdom is bullshit,
Starting point is 00:44:33 but then they were still writing the same articles this time around that they wrote in 2016. Right. Things aren't looking good for Trump. Yeah. And the devs can't get it together. Yeah. And and the same takes by the same political strategists about how it's all about personalities
Starting point is 00:44:51 and people don't really pay attention to the policies and shit. It's just, I think there's a conventional wisdom that everybody else is stupid. People just like to think that all the faceless masses are stupid and like that's that's how like media professionals think they're just like yeah they're all they care about is like the Trump is funny and it's like no he was lying about the shit and being like taking advantage of their racism but yeah he was also lying and saying he was going to do the thing that no politician has been able to do, which is, you know, give money and power back to the poor in the country. And that's not what happened.
Starting point is 00:45:34 But people are like, no, it's that he's cool and funny and a reality star. He's got a gold toilet and then Pete Holmes had this thing on his stand-up special where he was talking about how people who talk about how there's no way there's such thing as an afterlife because like come on that would be weird and he was saying how how weird life is like if you just think about it have you guys ever had the thing this is kind of an aside but have you ever been looking at someone at a certain angle and suddenly their face looks totally like alien or something yeah right now yeah i don't know like when their facial features like start no no no not like he looks like an alien like their facial features like sometimes it happens when somebody's like i'm looking at somebody's profile i'm like it just looks like their face
Starting point is 00:46:25 isn't in the right shape or sorry what kind of profile are you looking at no like somebody's talking profile oh i think yeah yeah um see some of these linkedin profiles though i don't know about you the face start changing sometimes people look like picasso paintings to me and it just makes me think about like you're taken out of it and like i'm able to see what it would look like to see a human being for the first time to like somebody who's like an alien or like seeing a human face for the first time and it's really weird and it also just gives you some perspective on how weird our day-to-day life is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I mean, who's to say that what we're living right now isn't hell? Right. Okay. I'm serious. For sure. Like, depending on how you look, this could be purgatory. I mean, it all depends on how you're trying to contextualize, like, the human experience. If it's, like, if you believe in an afterlife, like, you could argue maybe this is heaven.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I don't even, I don't understand how you can look at where we are now and not think that anything is possible in this universe. Thank you, Kevin Garnett. Anything is possible! You smash a bunch of rocks together, and all of a sudden we are four people in a room on microphones recording a podcast. I mean, that's not how it happened, Dan.
Starting point is 00:47:38 All right. I was banging on a trash can lid in the alley behind Jack's house. Drumming on a streetlight? Hello? The Beats? All right, guys. Should we do myths? Yeah, let's do myths.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I prepared a myth. Real quick. Huh? You need another break? Yeah, let's do another break. Real quick. Take a break. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
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Starting point is 00:52:03 I'm going to start the myths out. Yes. With the fact that, so my myth is that we don't know what happened to that plane. Which one? From like four years ago. MH-17? Yeah. Yeah. We know.
Starting point is 00:52:16 We do know? Yeah, we basically know what happened. So what happened? So it was the pilot. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So- Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Are you talking about oceanic Flight 815? No, the Malaysian Air flight. The Malaysian Airline. That disappeared. That's not about lost. So we have... So basically the reason we didn't think... I mean, it was a very strange event,
Starting point is 00:52:35 but the reason that people weren't able to put it together pretty quickly was because Malaysia is a fairly corrupt country and they didn't want it to be pinned on them as like letting this dude fly a plane. So he was like made to be this like, you know, totally stand up person with a 100 percent record. And so the main piece of evidence, like there were all these different beacons that showed exactly where the plane went. And it like made this big turn.
Starting point is 00:53:07 went and it like made this big turn and it's just it can't have been a hijacking and it can't have been them flying like passing out and the plane going on autopilot like it had to have been somebody was flying it and the only rational thing is that it was a pilot but the main piece of evidence that like kind of nails it for me is the pilot had a flight simulator in his house, and one of the flights that he had taken was this exact route, crashing into the Antarctic Ocean. He had done that in the flight simulator? He had his memory card? Yes, that was on his memory card.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Him crashing it? Yes, and it was the only one of a thousand different ones that he had done on sped up. So it's like usually he does it for the experience and practice right but this one he was basically either doing it to see how quickly the fuel would run out or as sort of a clue to people like yeah i'm doing this that that's what people but yeah he had flown basically that exact route in a flight simulator but they had like basically covered it up. There's a really interesting magazine article about it
Starting point is 00:54:09 that people should check out. Anyways, we know. So wait, hold on, time out. Did he do it on purpose? Yes. What? And the breadcrumbs are that he did that run on a flight simulator? He did a practice run on his computer game.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yo. And that's not unheard of. There was a practice run on his computer game. Yo. And that's not unheard of. There was that Egyptian air flight where the dude just like nosed it into the Atlantic Ocean. There's been a couple of flights like that where- Oh, that's super fucked up. There was the German pilot who flew into the side of a mountain with a bunch of people on board.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Heard about that. Yeah. So it's really sad, but it is also like, I feel like the media is somewhat exploiting it because it's like a huge mystery and they like talking about it, but it's actually just a very sad story. What article is it? That's super fucked up.
Starting point is 00:54:54 It is, let me see. I'll find the magazine before we leave. We'll post it in the footnotes. Yeah, footnotes. This episode brought to you by Greyhound Buses. And Starbucks. And trains. Okay, and Starbucks. And trains. Okay, and Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And Target. Okay. What's your myth, Miles? I don't even know. It's going to be about Italy. No. It's that weddings have to be expensive. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. As someone whose life goes on, and I'm approaching the marriage phase of my life and my relationship with her majesty well this is something we talk about is Miles proposing on air yes we're gonna call her right now
Starting point is 00:55:36 and I'm gonna propose with the Zeitgang on and you guys cheer for me no I'm just but look behind you it's my fucking stepmom. What the fuck is this, dude? That's fucked up, man. This is the wrong competition.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I'm sorry. No, it's not even like, I don't know if it's like a myth more so that it's something I've seen where there are people who will gladly pay just astronomical sums of money for a wedding. And other people who can achieve matrimonial bliss without spending so much money. And I'm just like, the whole fucking wedding, look, and this is not really even a take, but this whole fucking wedding is just fucking sham.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And I cannot, to the point where I'm talking to her majesty, I'm like, yo, you know what you should do? Let's fucking fake out a hotel and say we're having a merger of two companies. And we get a ballroom and say it's a merger of Grey Corp and Her Majesty International. And treat the whole thing, the ceremony like a business function. Wow. So all the people are there.
Starting point is 00:56:43 You get the fat discount. Yeah. And they're like, yo, I just need a presentation. I'm doing a presentation in here. Because it's like a business function. Wow. So all the people are there. You get the fat discount. Yeah, and they're like, I just need a presentation. I'm doing a presentation in here. Because the second you do weight, it's like, oh, it'll cost 900 times fucking more. Right. Fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Smart. So it's almost like a myth to me that, and luckily she's on the same page as I am, like, it just doesn't seem appropriate to spend that much money, or it almost seems like kind of obscene to me to put that, concentrate that much money, or it almost seems like kind of obscene to me to put that, concentrate that much capital into one thing that is just, is one moment. And I get like, you know, some people want that.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Small weddings are really cool though. Like big weddings, the food suffers. Yeah. Or a good size wedding. Yeah. If it's a good size. I mean. A Goldilocks wedding.
Starting point is 00:57:20 As long as like the food doesn't suffer. Amen. Yeah. Very important. Food is super crucial. Yeah. See, then you'd be spending more money on that. Yeah, but if it's a small wedding.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Or just make it a thing where you get your 30 friends. There you go. Do it at Chipotle. Be like, all right, look. Just have the K barbecue party. And I'll be like, yo, don't everybody get guac. The fuck? God damn.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I'm trying to save money. Be like, you can come to my wedding, but if you want guac, it's going to be a $3 mission fee. Exactly. Bring your own. B-Y-O-G. wedding but if you want guac it's gonna be a three dollar mission exactly bring your b-y-o-g but um yeah i just feel like there's i think it's a i think the assignment you know other thing too like even with engagement rings you're like it's gotta be this this this and this it's gotta be this size it's gotta be this amount of your income okay and i just feel like again these are all just
Starting point is 00:57:59 terrible marketing things that have been put into people's mind see exactly no but what do you but what do you mean by that? Like, not even trying to come at you. Like, in your mind, what does that mean? I just don't. I have to look at it. No, but I'm saying you need to have a $8,000 ring, a $12,000 ring. I know people.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Your finger went up. Fucking 15? No, no, no. I'm not trying to have something that somebody would want to, like, murk me over. That's what I'm also saying saying too. That's like anything. Like any piece of jewelry that you're wearing is like once you get it at Claire's. I mean it's lord. But I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:58:31 it's something that you want to be like proud to have. It doesn't necessarily, it's not a number. Sure. I guess what I'm realizing too is I have, I'm realizing how little I'm attaching my pride to the like the actual dollar amount or something. Right. And I think, and that is more of a traditional way of thinking. It's like, well, I value you at $15,000 for one ring.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Like, what the fuck? No way. That's obscene. I don't know. There's part of me, too. When you just look at the state of the world and the kind of money that's being thrown around, it's like, that just seems like an absolute fucking waste to do. So my myth is, you know what, dude? Fuck money. It's like, that just seems like an absolute fucking waste to do.
Starting point is 00:59:06 So my myth is, you know what, dude? Fuck money. It's about love. Wow. You know? Brave. Except,
Starting point is 00:59:13 I'm in the middle of a misunderstanding with DWP because I tried to pay in Marianne Williamson love and they still shut my power off. That's fucking wild, dog. I tried to give them
Starting point is 00:59:21 the same deal. They were like, yeah, it's chill. I'm like, well, the problem is we need to weaponize love and it's like Okay, my whole shit went off so if you like to remember what is your myth that when you're in school that algebra is important What okay?
Starting point is 00:59:37 Important okay at what level you seem like quadratic equation like I don't use that shit. Do you use that shit? I? Quadratic equation. No, I mean, just, like, I don't use that shit. Do you use that shit? I use sometimes. I use complex math. All right, whatever. Brag, first of all. I'm just saying, like, why would you not just, like, teach me how to, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Dougie. Like, pay my, like, I mean, I have a great credit score, but I mean, like. What's your credit score? I know it by heart, but I'm not about to put that on air. What's the last four of your socials? I know it by heart, but I'm not about to put that on air. What's the last four of your socials? But I'm just saying, like, if you learn, like, statistics in, like, earlier school instead of, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:14 I feel that. But, like, me having to do, like, Algebra 1 and Algebra 2, like, what the? I think that's good, though. Social weight? No. I think there's value to using your brain. Even if you're not using it, you've actually expanded your brain activity by going, taking it places. You might not literally know.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I'd rather have taken like advanced edition, advanced edition. So what is that? Like adding like a hundred plus 53 plus 1,920. I would rather like, I would rather learn like, okay, if I use my credit card on this,
Starting point is 01:00:44 how many, how many points will I get? And what will that equal to? I agree with that. Shit like that. A plus B equals C. I don't care. You might not care, but I think... I do think they should teach us better life skills. Algebra doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Okay, I don't think it's an either or. I don't think it's enough to say algebra doesn't matter. Algebra doesn't matter. I don't think math is too much to say algebra doesn't matter. Algebra doesn't matter. I don't think algebra necessarily. I don't think it's a necessary life skill. Like you die without it. But I don't think you could say that to learn it, like at some point as a child isn't like it's.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Maybe instead of dare, they could have given us a special crash course on life. No, dare matters. But like. Look at me. What? Look at me and tell me dare matters. I mean, matters, but like... Look at me. What? Look at me and tell me dare matters. I mean, I'm looking at you.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Dare matters. Wow. Oh. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Not sorry. I'm just saying there's like many classes
Starting point is 01:01:37 that we were forced to take that I'm like, we should have one focused more on like... I took a class called ancient civilizations uh we should have okay which is really cool which is really cool and i feel like helps me and like help me think outside of the box i would have rather have taken more of that rather than fucking algebra two okay which i said algebra two which i do wow um a lot of trigonometry hate in here Yeah Also you know what fuck stoichiometry I mean I would have rather taken like Philosophy classes in high school
Starting point is 01:02:12 And middle school and stuff like that Like things that helped you think ideologically And like more outside of the box I mean the most beneficial classes I took in high school Were like more of the humanities based classes Rather than once again fucking algebra Fuck you algebra especially algebra 2 we'll do another whole entire episode where we just find out what happened in this algebra who this teacher was and what it did to your gpa
Starting point is 01:02:35 um i went to college dan yes what is your myth uh i have a couple and i'll blow through them really quickly uh my first one is that it's lame to wear the same clothes as someone else i don't think that's lame i think it's awesome i think it's really cool i love to twin i love to twin same twinning um another one is that all of those twitter retweets are a conspiracy and i'll explain what i mean by that you ever see someone who tweets something like can't wait to have my cheerios iowa style and then it's obviously something disgusting and gross where they're eating their Cheerios with like orange juice or something. And then someone retweets that and says, yo, bro, are you kidding me? This looks disgusting and gets like 100,000 likes in their tweet.
Starting point is 01:03:12 My conspiracy is those people are working together. Oh, when you see some bullshit where it's like, yo, it's just someone doing something retweet. It's the social where it's like clearly something is amiss in this picture where it's like, Hey, check out my new car. And it's like the picture has like, well, a it's busted,
Starting point is 01:03:29 but B there's like a mirror there and they're naked in the mirror or something. It's like, yo, but look at the mirror. LOL. It's like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:34 no shit. That's the point. The conspiracy is that those people are together. Okay. My last, my last myth is that the music industry is no different at any level. And miles and I have talked about this before. But when it comes to big artists and stuff like that,
Starting point is 01:03:48 when you think of like your Katy Perry's or your Billie Eilish's or something like that, and putting those two people in the same breath these days, a little strange. But you don't think that either of those people is like involved in every single level of their music making. Like, do you think that Billie Eilish is also making every beat that she's on or that Katy Perry is making every beat that she's on?
Starting point is 01:04:04 I don't know enough about Billie E eilish's is she a producer well she i mean my my understanding is that she's a singer uh she has some production experience but like her brother writes a lot of her songs as well she has worked with producers in the past right right and either way and i think with you know rappers as well like do you think jay-z made all of his beats in fact no it's famous that kanye made a bunch of beats for Jay-Z. And even when it comes to Kanye. And Just Blaze. And Just Blaze,
Starting point is 01:04:28 exactly, as well. All I'm saying is that as that goes down and down and down, it's the same at every level of the industry. It's like not every single EDM producer or DJ is also making all of their own shit. They don't direct their own music videos. They don't make all the own art for their stuff. It's not always this super self-contained project.
Starting point is 01:04:47 And so when it comes to- There are some artists though that are like that. Yes, there are. One person, Rick and Cruz. There are totally people like that. There's even people who will record all of their own instruments. There's like Keller Williams and Paul Westerberg
Starting point is 01:04:57 who just like, you know, literally record every instrument on their own, literally do it all by themselves. But all I'm saying is that, you know, don't be so hurt if you find out that, you know, someone you know had half of the song produced by someone else or that like some of Cashmere Cat's pianos were played by Lito. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:05:16 How did you not see that coming? Wow. Okay, so now I know who you're talking about. Look, I love Cashmere Cat. He's one of my favorite producers, straight up, hands down, and an incredible turntable listening DJ. But the pianos on there were produced by Lito, and that's fine.
Starting point is 01:05:29 That's okay. And I'm not hurt by that. No, I'm not either. But when some people are like, oh, someone's got ghost producers. It's like, yeah, everybody does. Everybody does. Get over it. That's my myth.
Starting point is 01:05:39 All right. And that's going to do it for today's special bonus episode. We're not doing tweet? Nah. But I have one. What is it? Go right special bonus episode. We're not doing tweet? Nah. But I have one. What is it? Go right now. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I just want to shout out. Too late. God damn it, Bob. Shout out to Alex Morgan from the U.S. Women's National Team for soccer. This person tweeted in reference to her doing the sip the tea motion after she scored the goal. Number 13, which is her jersey number, on her birthday. In honor of those 13 colonies, that's the tea. Get it? Wow.
Starting point is 01:06:14 We beat England. 13 colonies, Betsy Rock's flag, white supremacy. Wow. No. 13 stars. Damn. Yo, what about that Sixers jersey has the 13 stars? What does Colin Kaepernick got to say about that? Oh, fuck. Dan. Yo, what about that Sixers jersey has the 13 stars? What does Colin Kaepernick got to say about that?
Starting point is 01:06:26 Oh, fuck. Exactly. Also, shout out to the person that made a Twitter handle called Kawhi's SUV. That's so funny. I love that. This generation's OJJs. There's reports that Kawhi is in me right now. Kawhi is inside me, sources say.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Update. Kawhi has now coughed three times in a row in the backseat. Could be hinting at creating a super team with three superstars in LA. More details to come. Dan, do you have a tweet? You don't have to have a tweet. Alright guys, that's gonna do it for this weekend.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Next weekend, hey Dan, where can people find you, follow you? You can find me on Twitter at DJ underscore Danal. You can find me on Twitter at DJ... Spell that though. No, that's Twitter at DJ underscore Danil. You can find me on Twitter at DJ. Spell that though. What? Oh, no, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Yeah, DJ underscore D-A-N-L. It's just a nickname. And you can find me on Instagram at just DJ Danil. If you want hot video game takes and very tepid opinions. And if y'all don't really realize, I get all my League of Legends info from this guy. The Marv Albert of League of Legends. Exactly. I wonder where those video game jokes come from.
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