The Daily Zeitgeist - Posthumously Canceled, LET MALIA LIVE 2.20.19

Episode Date: February 20, 2019

In episode 332, Miles and special guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by comedian and musician Chris Crofton to discuss the Peanut Butter Pump, the death of Karl Lagerfeld, Bernie Sanders announcing hi...s presidential run, Roger Stone being a moron, the press snitching on Malia Obama, John Wayne making problematic comments in the seventies, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. The Peanut Butter Pump2. Karl Lagerfeld Dies at 85; Prolific Designer Defined Luxury Fashion3. Bernie Sanders is running for president — and his policies would have a huge impact on business4. Mueller Unceremoniously Went into Significant Detail About Roger Stone Connection to DNC Hack5. Roger Stone 'humbly' apologizes for posting photo of federal judge featuring cross-hairs symbol despite gag order6. Stop Snitching on Malia Obama7. READ: John Wayne’s 1971 Playboy Interview Transcript8. Chris Crofton Album Info8. WATCH: Live - Lakini's Juice Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:25 Yes, it is I, Miles Grey. Let me just hit y'all with a quick AKA. Some might know me as ED, phone home. Shout out to at boink bonk bitch for that one, or boink boink bitch for that one. Or, you know, if you're in the streets, they call me the Iron Zan SoCal
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Starting point is 00:03:09 Thank you so much. Oh, my God. Is that Molly Parton over there? Good to be here. It's Lil' Molly Parton. There she is. A.K.A. Childless Zamboni. Childless Zamboni.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Childless Zamboni. How are you? Oh, I'm great. Thank you so much for coming at the last minute, although we've been planning this for a while. Yeah, I put the week aside, man. I'm wearing a shirt. I got my Daily Zeitgeist laptop case. It's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Hey, you know, each one takes one year. Just like everybody else. And look, we are joined by a guest whose first appearance on the show was received with such excitement, such laughter with such excitement, such laughter, such warmth, that we had to have him back almost immediately. It is my pleasure to introduce our guest today, the talented musician, performer, stand-up comedian, and all-around just finding shit on the ground enthusiast, Chris Crofton.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Hey, I'm so happy to be here. I don't have any AKAs Because I don't know Exactly what's going on But Everyone send Chris AKAs For next time I'm thrilled to be here I really had such a great time Last time Oh man we had a great time too
Starting point is 00:04:13 I got so many followers You did? You guys have like Oh man let me get some of those I got so You got the cloud boost I'm not kidding I mean
Starting point is 00:04:20 Hundreds of followers Well look On my social media And that's all I care about Your performance Or just your mere appearance Speaks for itself The gang does not fuck around I mean, hundreds of followers on my social media, and that's all I care about. Your performance or just your mere appearance speaks for itself. The gang does not fuck around. I mean, seriously. They love you.
Starting point is 00:04:30 They embrace you. And we are so glad to have you back. Well, before we ask you what kind of YouTube videos you're watching this week, let's tell people what we're going to talk about today. You know, a new invention has come around for peanut butter, and I'm not sure we need it. Maybe we do. The peanut butter pump.
Starting point is 00:04:44 We're also finding out that, you know that a fashion icon has left this earth. We'll also talk about possible beef between Zamboni icons, Ariana Grande and Jamie Loftus, as well as some political stuff. Bernie's running. Roger Stone is trying to go to jail for real or something. And many other things to talk about. But first, Chris, please tell us something from your search history that is a little revealing about who you are.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Okay. Well, most of the time on my search history, it's really just me looking for cold brew got me like meme material. So you could probably see me searching for things like crazy photo or 1970s keg party um but i figure i another thing i searched for and because last time the metal detecting and the magnet fishing was such a hit i figure i might as well tell you about a thing that i also search for a lot. Mud larking videos. What is that?
Starting point is 00:05:47 What the fuck is mud larking? Okay. Mud larking, it's in the same neighborhood as magnet fishing and metal detecting, except for mud larking, you don't even need any equipment. You just go. It's the Thames River in London. Oh, it's a British thing. And the Thames River has had cities on it, active cities all along it since 2,000 years
Starting point is 00:06:08 ago. So there's 2,000 years of junk in that river. And when it's low tide in London, and I guess they mudlark all along it, but mostly London, they go down on the mud and look around and find stuff. And there's one woman named Nicola white mudlark. And she is like the sex symbol of the mudlark. And her videos, she's like,
Starting point is 00:06:32 I mean, but the thing is like, there's nobody else. Like, I mean, she's by default the hottest. I mean, she's the hot,
Starting point is 00:06:39 but she definitely thinks she's sexy. Like from her pictures. Oh, really? Does she have an online presence like i don't think so but her name is nicola white mudlark and what i love about going on the show also is i hope i'm driving traffic to these weirdos oh you are for sure i'm looking her up right now nicola white mudlark she also goes by tideline art because some she makes like
Starting point is 00:07:00 uh sometimes makes like fish and stuff out of stuff she finds like glass like and she finds old pipes mainly like clay pipes like in the 19th century 18th century 17th century 16th century mostly okay we get it nervous breakdown he won't stop he was good last time 14th and 13th 12, 12th, 11th, not 10th. No, they didn't have tobacco in Europe up until like, it was like 16th century when it started or something. And they, so everybody smoked clay pipes and they threw them away. Like after one use, like these really pretty nice clay pipes. So there are, I mean, you got to figure four centuries of like drunk people, all the bars were by the river.
Starting point is 00:07:43 So like the river is just pretty much has an endless supply of clay pipes that's the one thing isn't go ahead oh no i was gonna say before i remember you talking about people who like check the rivers and like where people river raft and you were really bummed out that they were just pulling up shit like cell phones yes and i feel and i remember so this to you is more of a satisfying find even if it's a little clay pipe because you just like a little bit of history. I was about to say, Nicola is a little heavy on the clay pipes for me. There are certain other mudlarkers that are,
Starting point is 00:08:16 she seems to only have eyes for clay pipes. She finds them, and she never gets tired of finding them, and she does a sort of, and this is not a joke. Oh, she tweeted one the other day. She does kind of a flirty, somewhat sexual thing with pipe extraction. She's like, ooh, a pipe extraction. She's like, let's see how much pipe is on. It just might be a bowl, but let's see how much stem is left.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And she pulls it out kind of slow out of the mud. It's a long one. I don't like that. I don't want any flirty. You like it to the point, hi, this is a clay pipe, next. I want to see the stuff, yeah. I just like the idea that she's so focused on pipes, like in one of the videos, she may have just
Starting point is 00:08:50 been overlooking, like, an actual, like, relic. Like, it's like, that looks like King Arthur's sword. And it's like, but this pipe. Do you see this pipe? But this pipe. Let's see if there's something inside the pipe. Inside. I think she's, you know, she's a, she's a, she's an attractive lady. I, I cross-checked it. She you know, she's an attractive lady.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I cross-checked it. She's a pretty lady. She's found her niche. I'm kind of in love with her. She's extracting shit from her. Let's hook you up. If I met her, I would be starstruck. First of all,
Starting point is 00:09:15 I would be starstruck because I've seen her on a screen. Right. Anybody you see on a screen automatically you're starstruck by. So I've seen her a lot. Even if it's on your cell phone
Starting point is 00:09:24 in the subway I would totally yeah I would freak out if I saw her and yes I am somewhat you got a crush on her? interested in so maybe if there's like
Starting point is 00:09:33 a VidCon or something in the UK and she's gonna be there we should try and you know I'll tell you what she's got kind of a consistent it looks like she wears the same outfit a lot
Starting point is 00:09:41 she does she's got a mudlarking outfit what is her outfit? she's got she wears Chris correct me if I'm wrong like she wears the same outfit a lot. She does. She's got a mudlarking outfit. What is her outfit? She wears, Chris, correct me if I'm wrong, but she wears a white long-sleeved shirt with black stripes on it a lot. And it seems to be like her- She has, like, stripes.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah, tight jeans. And she, like, poses sometimes pretty suggestively next to her fines. There you go. Yeah, she does pose with the fines. She's always wearing galoshes. So, you know, like, she's at work, but she, you know, came. She's at work. Those galoshes are flirty and she knows it.
Starting point is 00:10:08 She's at work, but she is ready to work. Anyway, so I have a crush on her. I don't have a crush on, I'll tell you who I don't have a crush on. It's her friend, Chill Bill, who's also a mudlarker. And he, I just can't deal with him at all. And he finds good shit. He actually has good eyes and he finds shit better than pipes. But I'd rather watch Nicola find a pipe than Chill Bill find a damn chalice.
Starting point is 00:10:31 What's Chill Bill's vibe? He's just a freak. Like, yeah, he's like the dark side of, you know, not everybody who mudlarks and magnet fishes is charming. And Chill Bill is one of the ones that is not. Oh, wow. And his name's chill bill which i can't deal with oh did chill bill and nicola know each other yes they hang out sometimes when they get in videos together i don't i don't like it but then again chill bill will find like
Starting point is 00:10:57 an amulet while while they regroup and nickel is always like i found nine pipes he's like i found an old gutenberg bible i think exactly right so chill bill's got a good eye but Wow. They regroup and Nicola's always like, I found nine pipes. He's like, I found an old Gutenberg Bible, I think. Exactly. So Chill Bill's got a good eye, but I can't deal with this. I don't like to look at him. His vibe isn't good. And then, you know, the pros and cons. Nicola, great pipe finds, a little too pipe-centric,
Starting point is 00:11:16 and sometimes a little more suggestive than it has to be when you just find old pipes. Yeah. Hey, but look, get it how you live, guys. Everyone's building their brand, man. Exactly. Because that's incredible. I want to write a fan letter find oil pipes. Yeah. Hey, but look, get it how you live, guys. Everyone's building their brand, man. Exactly. Because that's incredible. I want to write a fan letter to Nicola. You should.
Starting point is 00:11:29 This is a great movie. But I'm not the only one. There's no way. She must have so many fan letters. Write her an album. She's definitely the hottest person in the mudlarking, magnet fishing, metal detecting world. Chris, write her a song.
Starting point is 00:11:41 That's how she's going to remember you. A song where she finds me in the mud. Yes, dude. Just an old clay pipe. You're the greatest find of all. Is there a stem attached? I don't even know anymore. And we make a video, like a full video,
Starting point is 00:11:55 where I actually pull CGI, pulls me out of the mud. Perfect. And I'm wearing a Speedo and I start doing karate. All right, this is great. Chris, what's something that you think is underrated? I was saying underrated. I had a thing written down, because this is a hard one for me, because I think you're supposed to say stuff like modern.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I'm supposed to say like- It's up to you, man. Listen, I'm learning. Scrubs is underrated. I'm just kidding. I love using old, obsolete. Small wonder is great. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:26 That little girl, she's a robot, I guess? I'm tired of people shitting on West Wing. I think the thing I said was, what was I going to say was underrated? Oh, I was going to say the live song. You know the band Live? The one that sang the song about being born? What's that song? Isn't it called Before You?
Starting point is 00:12:43 The placenta falls to the floor. Whoa. What? You know that song? Is it called like Before You or something? The placenta falls to the floor. Whoa. What? You know that song. The angel opens her eyes. Pale blue colored eyes. Anyway, that was the big, one of their big hits. One of their big hits was that.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Lightning Crashes is what it's called. It's about people being born and they talk about placentas on the floor and stuff. And that was like a number one hit, which would never happen now. That was, yeah, that sounds scary. It was all about, 90s, they were like, placenta, hell yeah, let's get into it in songs. Now it's just like, I want to fuck the club. Yeah. Simpler times.
Starting point is 00:13:21 But how do you get to the club? You have to be born first. Yeah. You know what I mean? You got to eat, you got to crunch on the placenta, and do you get to the club? You have to be born first. You got to crunch on the placenta and then head out to the club. Yeah, you're not going to get top 40 songs about placentas now. That was a 90s thing. So they had a song, though, after they were out of –
Starting point is 00:13:34 they had their big hit album that had, I alone love you. But they always kind of sucked. They were always kind of annoying. But they still were like – I was like, oh, those songs are okay. But there's a song after – they had a record after their big record that flopped. kind of annoying but they still were like i was like oh those songs are okay you know but um there's a song after they had a record after their big record that flopped and there but there's a
Starting point is 00:13:50 song called um lakini's juice and that's what i'm saying is underrated because lakini's juice is a good fucking song that sounds just as scary as the placenta song what's it about lakini's juice is about it's just about the chorus is let me ride let me ride burn my eyes let me ride and it's so it's so good it's, I mean, it's mostly for exercising. It's a song you can do sit-ups to. It's a song you can listen to before you go into a meeting or a job interview and you would just be like,
Starting point is 00:14:32 let me ride. And you go in there and you would do the interview of your life. Right. And they're like, sir, welcome to Wendy's. You're on the night team. I like the cut of your jib.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So that's it. My thing is Lachini's Juice. I recommend everybody if they need to just, if they're having that's it. My thing is Lakini's Juice. I recommend everybody if they need to just, if they're having a bad day, throw on Lakini's Juice. You gotta wade through the verses. How do you spell Lakini? That's it. For all the listeners out there trying to listen
Starting point is 00:14:56 to Lakini's Juice. We're gonna go out on that. This is the first time someone said something like that. Alright, we're gonna go out on that song. Lakini's Juice is spelled L-A-K-I-N-I. Lakini. I have no idea what it means. Like live kind of screws around with like spiritual stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:14 But they're like from Pennsylvania. Right. So it's like spiritual Pennsylvania dudes. So like Coco Pelly is the deepest shit to them. Like white spiritual dudes from Pennsylvania are like Lakini. You know what I mean? They're like, that sounds spiritual. Lachini's juice.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I want to see what their haircuts are. I feel like the hair situation is not good. And I was at Woodstock 99, because I worked as a PA. And I got to see- Double brag. I got to see- You got to see those people die.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I saw that song, but I saw that song live. Oh, wow. From the press area. So I got to see You got to see Those people die I saw that song But I saw that song live Oh wow From like From like The press area So I got to see Ed Kowalczyk Who's the singer of Live
Starting point is 00:15:52 Sing Scream Let me ride Like a bunch of I mean it was like The end of the world I like the idea That you're working out
Starting point is 00:15:59 To this song But in your mind You're flashing back To you at Woodstock 99 Everything's on fire Fuck yeah man Red hot chili peppers Are still young Everything's on fire. Red Hot Chili Peppers are still young. Everything's good. I've never felt more alive, man.
Starting point is 00:16:09 This man called Limp Bizkit was just coming out. That was a nightmare. We were there in 99 watching Lachini's Juice live. That was a terrible event. I luckily had to... I didn't really have much. I got to stay in a... Everybody was involved in the event. The organizers were safe.
Starting point is 00:16:26 That's the thing. It was an old military base, and everyone went to stay in the old officers' quarters. Barracks or whatever. Yeah, yeah. So we stayed in barracks and things, and we'd go back in during the day, but it was a bad...
Starting point is 00:16:38 It was on a concrete airstrip. I mean, there you go. That's the first thing. And you just had tens of thousands of people just trying to ride, man, saying, let me ride me ride but yeah and ed kowalczyk was wearing like clothes you buy it like uh while he was screaming let me ride it like whatever that fucking boiling sea of rapists in the audience he was he was like 99 we were all there he was wearing he was wearing like clothes you get at Filene's basement.
Starting point is 00:17:06 He was wearing a business shirt and slacks and Steve Madden chunky black shoes. Statement, dude. It's a statement. It was very weird. It's a Pennsylvania. He was wearing mud jeans. Pennsylvania shit. He was like, I'm going to get dressed up.
Starting point is 00:17:18 He was dressed up like he was going to the Knights of Columbus. What's something that's overrated, Chris? Overrated? Excuse me. This has happened last time. This is what happens when I get up in the morning. The first thing I do in the morning, I clear my throat for really long times. I'm old.
Starting point is 00:17:33 It's true. It's rough. The cold brew is hitting for you, though. I can feel it. Oh, yeah. I don't usually do act outs. You burst a blood vessel when you scream, let me ride. Yeah, is your eye okay?
Starting point is 00:17:46 It's such a good song. It's like... It looks pretty gnarly, Chris. More wine! He says the craziest things in that song. More, he goes, more wine! Cause I got to have it. More skin!
Starting point is 00:17:58 Such a filthy habit. I mean, it's really bad, but then let me ride just clears it all away. Overrated. Overrated. Overrated. I was going to say, well. I want you to say the other live song. Overrated. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Overrated is, well, I was going to say Chefs or Tattoos, but. Okay, I like this. Well, like, the Tattoos is like everybody knows Tattoos or Overrated, but I mean, it depends on what you get. I think Chefs or Overrated, because I moved here from Nashville, and Nashville's going through this whole thing where chefs came in and saved everybody's life or something. Right. Oh, my God. Thank God we have this sociopathic tattooed moron who came in and fried a dumpling or whatever and saved everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Dude, look at that. He has NACL tattooed. That's salt. The foundation of flavor. Dude, can you believe that Thor Widgman is here in Nashville with his amazing chain of restaurants called Corn with no letters in it or whatever? I mean, like, oh my God, thank God hemp came to town
Starting point is 00:19:02 because before that, how could we have ever gotten? Everyone was on the verge of death. Yeah. Yeah. I mean like it is, it's sort of, it's like a Berber cuisine mixed with like new French, new French Canadian.
Starting point is 00:19:14 What does any of that mean? Yeah. Is it Berber? I mean, yeah, well I think, yeah, I look,
Starting point is 00:19:19 I love food. So shout outs to chefs who actually know what the fuck they're doing in the kitchen. But I get, you mean like this, like deification of it, I think, is where it gets weird. I think my thing is, I like to go to Trader Joe's and eat a wrap in the aisle. And they just get out on the street. Because what about the, who cares?
Starting point is 00:19:36 I'm not going to spend an hour letting some guy who rides a vintage motorcycle boil me a cabbage or whatever they do, and then serve it to me and say it's called the green monster or whatever they... Where have you been eating? I like to go... Sometimes I go to the Whole Foods hot bar and while I'm walking through the store, I'll scoop a little tikka masala into my hand. Hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Just palm it? Yeah, I'm petting as if I feed myself tikka masala going through. That's because you got shit to do. I am busy. You got shit to do i am busy you got shit to do you gotta go all you need is that street energy i don't have time to eat a dismantled deconstructed yeah oh a quail foot oh a whole bag of them or whatever i don't have any time for that i gotta get a trader joe's wrapping me i gotta get out on the street and smoke rocks smoke rocks and scream live lyrics at the bus.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I'm all about energy. I'm about energy and the streets. I know it's out of fashion. Mostly now it's about TV and outrage. But I'm about energy and the streets. Okay, well then. I'm just excited about this rhetoric. I think everyone, if you get the chance to steal from a Whole Foods, you should definitely do it because it's Jeff Bezos' store. You should steal from the troughs. That's what I'm talking about. You should steal from the troughs a Whole Foods. You should definitely do it because it's Jeff Bezos' store.
Starting point is 00:20:45 You should steal from the troughs. That's what I'm talking about. You should steal from the troughs at Whole Foods. Robin Hood. Wow. Yeah, you're Robin Hooding the tikka masala to yourself. Yeah, just don't make it hot
Starting point is 00:20:54 for anybody that works there. You know what I mean? No, no, be super nice to everybody that works there. What you do is you ask, you say, hey, my man, if I stole this shit, do you get in trouble?
Starting point is 00:21:00 And they go, ah, you know, kind of, like, and they're watching me. Then I won't. But if they're like, go ahead. But then they're like, if you exit through but if they're like go ahead but then they're like if you if you i always ask before i steal they're like if you exit through the cafe entrance then it's actually i could i could say that i didn't see wow that's what i do when i steal from the trough through the cafe guys if you want if you want to know what it's like being a comedian in la this is what it's about this is the kind of
Starting point is 00:21:22 money we're getting your job lifting yeah stealing from. And finally, Chris, what is a myth? A myth? I want to say one thing. I do like chefs. Some of them. I don't want to say every chef's a creep. Chefs are fine, but don't act like a chef saved your life. Don't act like a chef saved your life.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Okay. Come on. Only person who saved your life was a DJ. Have a Slim Fast and go to the bowling alley. Like a chef saved your life. Okay. Come on. Only person who saved your life was a DJ. Yeah. You just have a slim fast and go to the bowling alley. A myth. A myth would be that you should be traumatized by being bald. I don't think you should be. I think that's the myth.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I'm busting the myth that being bald has been one of the best things that ever happened to me. So what happened since you've gone bald? I've gotten a lot more attention from women. Maybe. I don't know if that's true. That didn't sound true. That didn't ring true to me. No, but I remember, this is a pump up for bald guys.
Starting point is 00:22:22 When I started losing my hair, I had curly hair. And the hardest part was when you mess around with it. Like, I had enough hair that I could push it around. When you're doing the, you're playing tricks. That's when you're a mental case. You can't ride in a convertible. The wind comes and, I mean, it's seriously, like, you got irritable bowel syndrome from your hairstyle. That's what I got.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Wow. So, you got to cut it short. Yeah. And get down to business. And if you need to get a pair of glasses even if they're vanity glasses and they got no lenses in them to do anything just get them it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:22:49 you know you gotta move on don't get don't hold on shave it and get move on and you don't need a weave
Starting point is 00:22:56 whoa oh gosh I couldn't imagine a weave my mom told me one time when I was losing my hair she actually said this to me and this is something as a as a do's and don'ts for moms is also in my hair she actually said this to me and this is something you as a as
Starting point is 00:23:05 all do's and don'ts for moms is also in my thing don't do this to your kid she said i think that uh losing your hair has had more of an effect on you than you realize no my god wow how do you even tackle that just how do you and then she said you might need a weave and then she said, you might need a weave. And then she said, there are a lot of guys running around out there that need weaves. Wow. So my mom devised the world
Starting point is 00:23:32 into bald people, I mean, people with hair and people who need weaves. See, man, what the patriarchy does to people, being like,
Starting point is 00:23:39 we have to look a certain way. You know what I mean? Get that weave. My mom, because I'm losing my hair too, and in my family, like all the men on my mom's side
Starting point is 00:23:47 were like bald by 30 and they would always fuck with me and they'd be like, this is your fate. And I'm like, cool. My mom's just so blunt.
Starting point is 00:23:55 She doesn't even offer things like you need a weave. She's like, you're losing all of your hair. And I'm like, all right. And she's like, there's nothing you can do about it.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And I was like, great. And she's like,'s nothing you can do about it and I was like great and she's like okay bye that was in a text oh my god because I think she saw something
Starting point is 00:24:09 in a photo oh my god but she's like but that's just sort of like our language like we're just really blunt and also like what are you going to do
Starting point is 00:24:16 exactly Chris like when you lose your hair you got to embrace it baby yeah just cut that shit down and don't and don't highlight it though don't talk about it
Starting point is 00:24:23 don't say like don't wear like like a bald cross don't wear like, though. Don't talk about it. Don't say, like, don't wear, like... Like a bald cross. Don't wear, like, my bald spot's a sex panel, a solar set. Don't wear that. And don't wear, like, bald guys get more head and that kind of... Well, you can't wear that at all. Don't...
Starting point is 00:24:36 Are these based on real shirts? Yeah. The bald guys get more head thing probably people don't wear as much as they did in the 90s or the 80s. But, yeah, don't highlight. You don't have to talk as they did in the 90s or the 80s um but yeah don't don't highlight you don't have to talk about it nobody's worried about it what treat the thing is i think there's like a stigma and at least in this culture of having of losing your hair so people try and draw attention away from it or full do the american thing which is like i'm gonna embrace
Starting point is 00:24:59 this flaw so aggressively like you're saying that you can make it you don't have to make it your brand you don't have to brand it although brand. You don't have to brand it. Although my brand is losing my hair and having ED, so I don't know what to do. Damn, that's tough. Anyway. And you don't have to have long hair to make music. I just want to tell people that.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Oh, yeah, good call. I'm good at spotting veneers. That's my only talent. I can tell when people have veneers, and I can tell when they're good. I can tell when they're bad. You can tell when someone the next day shows up with oversized teeth. I'm just like, you got capped.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah, like, why are all your teeth the same length? You got capped is like a hashtag. You got to do a thing like that. You got to just share pictures of people with caps and say you got capped. I'm not anti-veneer. I've been known to admire some. But it's like your teeth just got really long and all the same length. I have veneers.
Starting point is 00:25:44 You do? Yeah, but they're like from 1986. Oh, didn't catch those, did you, Jamie? I was being nice. No, no, no, but that story is so long. I didn't want to make it hot. With that, let's take a quick break and we will get back to it.
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Starting point is 00:29:31 And we're back. And I want to talk just very quickly about a new device that I saw on the internet that I'm not sure we need, but maybe we do. And it's called the peanut butter pump. Oh, I thought you were going for some freaky some freaky shit. This is freaky to me. Okay. Okay, because I realize now that like
Starting point is 00:29:51 peanut allergies are really out of control. Yeah. And I'm not sure why. I'm sure there is a study. I haven't bothered to look into why that is because like one of the first baseball stadiums like in Connecticut, it's like a minor league ball field. They completely banned peanuts
Starting point is 00:30:04 or anything to do with peanuts from the stadium, which to me, like baseball seems like a sport. If you have a peanut allergy, you just avoid because it's so peanut laden. Everything's about peanuts. It's in the songs. There's a peanut guy at every stadium that has a unique way of calling out for peanuts. You get censored by the planters guy every time you go to a baseball game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:22 That is one way to put it. Yes. You do. But so this peanut pump, now I will like, yes, peanut a baseball game. Yeah. That is one way to put it. Yes. But so this peanut pump now I will like peanut. Yes. Peanut. Goodness pump. Buy me some tofu and cracker jacks. Exactly. It's just
Starting point is 00:30:33 like a pump that you just attach to the top of your Skippy jar and you just push it out and ooze it on. Now I kind of do like the idea because in one way it makes applying peanut to a slice of bread a little bit easier. And you're not using knives. And also, if your wrist is fucked up or something and you don't have the strength to get it out the jar on your own, this could be good for you.
Starting point is 00:30:55 I mean, I don't see anything. The first thing I thought of when I saw it was like, oh, this would be great for cafeterias. But I guess cafeterias aren't really serving peanut butter, right? I felt like, well, back in my day, it just used to be a big ass thing with a loose knife next to it. Yeah. And you would just do it DIY style, have like a big tub of peanut butter. This is more sanitary.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah. And also- More efficient. You can do it faster. Exactly. So anyway, they were raising money on Indiegogo for like, they want a 20K. They already like smashed that goal. No way.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah. For 25 bucks, it could be yours. They're already like 44 or 45,000 or something like goal. No way. For $25, it could be yours. They're already like $44,000 or $45,000 or something like that. Holy shit. But they want to let you know from their FAQ, yes, it works on crunchy peanut butter. Yes, it works on other nut butters or, quote, similar products. A full pump currently dispenses one and a half tablespoons. Though that is subject to change in the final design.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yes, it works with most standard jars. No, the pump is not recommended for natural peanut butters with oil separation. Wow. Again, look. Of course not. If you have an allergy, though, you don't want to have peanut stuff spread all over the knives and shit, I guess. You could put it in, like, you could use it for Nutella. You could use
Starting point is 00:31:58 it for... Hey, there we go. Now we're thinking. Couple questions. Make it trendy. One question is you're going to have to push down so fucking hard on that thing. Peanut butter doesn't go through a tube unless it's some kind of loose peanut butter. Like it's warm, right? I think it has to be roomed. What are they talking about?
Starting point is 00:32:15 I think that's part of probably what the design is. Because could you imagine if they were so short-sighted? Like, just take the thing from like fucking ketchup out of like a Costco and put that on oh yeah they probably just want the indiegogo money and what do they have to do that do they have to give everybody who gave the money a pump or something that's all so they got a lot of money they can just use some ketchup pumps yeah they can give a real ketchup pump and say good luck okay cold brew is really hitting now yeah it's a conspiracy i don't think it's a conspiracy. It's making me excited about doing some kind of scam like that myself.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Right. Just like a thing you can't deliver on that's seemingly possible. Like a thing that already exists, like a pump that you have in a ketchup thing that you can sell to people for $50,000 or whatever. Maybe not, but I just don't understand how you... Crowdfunding, baby. Yeah. How do you... Hey, there's, you know, politicians
Starting point is 00:33:03 are doing it. Peanut butter fans are doing it. It's the way of the future. Yeah, just doing, yeah, bunk Indiegogo campaign. I just think it's, I find it hard to believe that you're going to be able to pump peanut butter through a tube like that. Okay, well, you know what? We'll have to, maybe someone will buy us one
Starting point is 00:33:16 and we can do a test with you. This will be a developing story. And that'll inspire your next bunk product. The condom remover. Ever tried to get a condom off? Well, with my handy tool, you're like, what the fuck? Had the same condom on for months and months. It's a pair of tongs.
Starting point is 00:33:32 It's just a guy like, I don't know how to get it off. I keep putting new ones on top. Is that okay? Is that safe? I has nine kids. Okay, so back to some real news. Fashion icon Karl Lagerfeld has died. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Is died. He is dead. And, you know, peace to Karl Lagerfeld, the Fendi man, the Chanel man with the plan that love him or hate him, I don't know much about him. Hey, same. Love him or hate him, couldn't afford anything he ever did. Couldn't afford it, but hey. Don't know how I feel about it. The cool magazines are like, LOL, he's died.
Starting point is 00:34:05 RIP. T-T-Y-L. Okay. But, you know, the one thing that I do know about Karl Lagerfeld is this one quote. And it's anathema to me. It says, oh, gosh. I know. You were all worked up. He said, quote, sweatpants are a sign of defeat.
Starting point is 00:34:21 You lost control of your life, so you bought some sweatpants. I agree. Oh, fuck some sweatpants. I agree. Oh, fuck off, Chris. No way! Don't you fucking dare. You got me fucking fired up right now. I couldn't disagree with this more.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I think this is the anti- comfortable lobby. I don't like it. The clothing should be very fancy. Here's my thing, and I wrote this in all caps lobby. I don't like it. It's the clothing should be like very fancy. Here's my thing. And I wrote this in all caps because I just had to get it. I said, they are a sign of victory, motherfucker. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:52 They are a sign that you don't subscribe to the belief that your clothes communicate your actual value or sense of self-worth to the outside world. Okay. I love it. You know what I mean? Because you're living for you, baby. Because guess what? Motherfuckers who see you in the sweatpants, they don't know the comfort you're experiencing in your sweatpants sometimes you can get stuff written on the ass as well as what i would add to that like what what would you have i had sweatpants
Starting point is 00:35:13 that said gymnast in junior high i was i was sort of i was i know it was a hand-me-down from my cousin who was a gymnast okay but there that i was a kid at peak writing on the ass, but I was like 12. Right, right. So it would be like dancer, gymnast. Oh, we couldn't afford that, but we just had random nouns and verbs written on our ass for no reason. I like had dancer, gymnast. I had Broughton High School class of 2010. They fit that on the ass.
Starting point is 00:35:42 What about bald guys get more head? Yeah. Sex and sex panel. I had some protect your neck sweatpants. Like Wu-Tang brand new ones? No, I didn't. I was like, whoa. Written on the ass.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Here's my thing. The reason I'm saying they're a sign of defeat is I guess I'm coming from a little older perspective. I'm a little older. My life happened on the streets in the 80s. In the 80s, you didn't want to be wearing any sweatpants because you didn't know what was coming at you. There could be
Starting point is 00:36:12 a shot of jizz coming out of the alley. There could be a knife fight. You don't want to be wearing some soft... I'm sorry, what streets were you roaming where semen was flying blindly out of the valley? Lower east side of New York City.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Lower east side of New York City between 1966 and 1999, there was semen flying. Yeah. And you just didn't want to be wearing sweatpants. Why sweatpants? How are you at a disadvantage? Street wear. I don't know. I'm just thinking.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Back then, it was like- I'm just thinking. How are you at a disadvantage? Street wear. I don't know. Like, you know, I'm just thinking. Like, back then it was like- I'm just thinking, man. When you left the house back then, it was like anything could happen because there was
Starting point is 00:36:50 no internet. So you had to go outside to experience shit. So you just like were like strapped on. You got leather pants on. You got your helmet- Strapped on. Well, hold on. Strapped on with your leather pants.
Starting point is 00:36:58 You got your strap on. Hold on. You got your leather pants on. You got your fucking- You're ready for any kind of sex. You got your ball gag in. You got your leather mask. You're ready for every kind of sex. You got your ball gag in. You got your leather mask. You're ready for every kind of sex.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah. Sex happens on the streets. There's no apps. There's two kinds of people. People who fuck and people who wear sweatpants. You know what's soaking through your sweatpants back then? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:37:16 Okay. Jizzing through your sweatpants. Motor oil. Yeah, motor oil. That's what we called it back then. It's a different time period. You can wear sweatpants all the time now. I guess that's my young person privilege.
Starting point is 00:37:25 That's true. Yeah, we're too comfortable. I can walk the streets with sweatpants and not have to, well, you still kind of wear weird shit, but look, I'm just out here wearing sweatpants. Yeah, but it's not pants exclusive. R.I.P. Carl. I'm surprised that Carl didn't get in on the velour sweatsuit trend of the early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:37:40 That seems like something that he might have capitalized on. Well, he can't now. He's dead. You've seen what he wears, too. So he has a lot of nerve telling anybody what to do. He wore driving gloves. He had a cat that had two butlers. What? Oh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I'll bring it back to life. It was like, the cat eats with me on the table. It's like a woman. It eats her own food and doesn't eat mine. I don't know why I'm doing this. That makes me mad. I want enough money for a cat with two butlers. You're doing a Werner Herzog. Werner Herzog. But that is what
Starting point is 00:38:09 I think when Karl Lagerfeld speaks about cats. Alright, well fuck Karl Lagerfeld because it's just elitist stuff. He's just saying because I made it big. Everybody else is lazy. Yeah, but you know, shout out to the fashion if you can afford it. Let's move on to some real people stuff because Bernie Sanders is running for president. out to the fashion if you can afford it uh let's move on to some real people stuff because bernie
Starting point is 00:38:25 sanders is running for president he announced on tuesday he's hopping in the mix yeah and off top i will say this his chances are good to at least make it to the final group of people because just off this name strength the strength of his brand uh but i think there's a lot he has so much more to contend with this time around, being that he's not just in a two-horse race where it's just trying to define himself as being different than Hillary, because now you have so many progressive candidates in there.
Starting point is 00:38:56 It's going to be a little hard for Bernie this time around. That's interesting. It's true. Yeah, I don't know. I was excited when I heard this announced. I mean, they've been teasing it for a long time i still think that bernie lines up closest with my values and so i'm excited on that end but i do i don't know i was talking about it with my brother this morning i'm like i do like something something feels a little i don't know like does that make sense i'm just like well i mean it's good but also it's you know it's february 2019 so who gives a fuck to an extent yeah he's running sure i mean like i'll reserve any takes Does that make sense? I'm just like, it's good, but also it's February 2019,
Starting point is 00:39:25 so who gives a fuck to an extent? Yeah, he's running, sure. I mean, I'll reserve any takes until I see everyone in a debate because, like I said, love him or hate him, he did pull a lot of the Democratic ideology, the party, the platform to the left. Right. I like Bernie a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:42 In that sense, I'm like, okay, great. There are things that I'm like, oh, forgot like african americans are part of the coalition you need to build to uh wait to take the white house so you have a big blind spot there my man and a little the few questions are being asked of uh the environment on his campaign that was particularly hostile for women but i think these are things that you right now, a lot of the other candidates or people who have announced are reserving their mudslinging. They're like trying to be like, OK, well, that's good for him. But I'm sure at some point, like all these candidates, the tough questions are going to be asked. And they're going to go for the age as well.
Starting point is 00:40:17 It's going to I think that's going to be a huge point of contention that comes up with him because he and Trump are such older candidates, which I don't even know where I fall on that. But that was the first thing that I saw people coming at him for this morning when that broke. Yeah. Well, yeah, we'll see. They're all old, though. I mean, Joe Biden's like 80 years old or something.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Yeah, Joe Biden's old, too. He's talking about running. And he should not be running either. Joe Biden, if Joe Biden runs, damn. I mean, he will, but no. Yeah, that's going to be tough. But I think that's where those debates are going to get. You know, just the same way people – what's crazy to me too is like, you know, when he was running against Hillary,
Starting point is 00:40:55 like she had – she was like on tape like calling black people like super predators and shit like that. Yeah. And like he was still actually not as, you know, popular as she was. And I think there's a lot to think about, too. Like there are a lot of people who voted for Bernie because they just were no matter what anti Hillary. And there are some people who are, you know, true Democratic socialists who like rock with his agenda. And those people aren't moving. It's those other people, too, who are just more like, I don't want Hillary.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I like Bernie. Are those people going to stay with him? I don't want Hillary. I like Bernie. Are those people going to stay with him? Because as in terms of small dollar donations, like he has by far like the strongest apparatus to achieve that kind of fundraising. He's raised over a million dollars since announcing. So, I mean, it's like insane the sort of response that he gets. And this time it's like he doesn't have to go from not being anyone to defining himself and overcoming like the lack of media coverage that happened during the 2016 election with him. And I don't know. I mean, I think it'll be a very different like I think people will probably be more critical of him this time because now everyone knows what democratic socialism is. And like there's not quite the same idealistic learning curve there was when I mean, when I was learning about him in 2016'm like i didn't i didn't have any clue what the dsa was i didn't know what any of that shit was
Starting point is 00:42:08 uh and so he was like exciting and new but it's like now like you're saying there's a lot of different people and viewpoints uh in in dust stable yeah i just know that uh he's walked the walk for such a long time like my whole whole time growing up, I didn't even understand politics or give a shit about them. Uh, when I was, you know, 18, 19,
Starting point is 00:42:28 whatever, because I was just into beer. I was into corporate beer. Um, yeah, heavy into Anheuser-Busch, uh, as a rebel rebellious act.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I was drinking a tremendous amount of beer. Um, and, uh, I was kind of an outlier drinking a lot of, uh, Anheuser-Busch, but,
Starting point is 00:42:48 uh, he he you know always there would be this guy i didn't know who it was but he always said the thing that made sense and like everybody was like ah shut up you know i mean basically like every like this whole thing where everybody'd be like we need to do this horrible thing and he'd be like no we shouldn't and i just remember him all those years and i i thought basically that he was like illegal or i was like well he's not a real senator because everybody just tells him to shut up or something right so I just like that he and I've heard from people like oh my friend my friend Alex interacted with him he said he's a jerk you know what I mean and I was like well you know you got to figure everybody that level somewhat of a he said he's really headstrong he thinks he's right about everything but you know
Starting point is 00:43:24 I mean like I don't I know that he needs i think he got some education on that last run about some stuff that he should be he said that in his radio interview where he was like i realized i did a terrible job with outreach to african americans yeah it's like if he thinks that just by solving economic things that that will help everybody then he needs to say that more explicitly and not just say it like, oh yeah, I'm not talking about race. I'm talking about economics. He just has to be more sensitive. And I think maybe he learned that and it was stupid of him the way he talked about it. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I hope that he actually did, but part of me is a little hesitant because I know people who are very progressive who just
Starting point is 00:44:01 choose to do the, well, if everyone's on the same foot, like economically, then all these other things go away. And I think that's a very myopic view. But again, I know, but I do understand the argument too, that is about making sure everyone is first has their needs met because then you can operate with a little more good faith with each other in that sense. But yeah, he needs to, he hit me. You can't have any politics if you're poor, you just can't have them. So I get his point about that. If you're poor, you can't have any politics if you're poor. You just can't have them. So I get his point about that. If you're like worrying about the bills, you just can't do anything. You can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:44:33 You have to work all the time. And that's all you can care about. And you would love to do whatever you could probably to help anybody, but you have no time. But I think even people who are because like, you know, his his run in 2016 pulled like everything to the left. Yeah. He's dealing with a lot of people who are talking the same talk as he is, too. I mean, like Elizabeth Warren has a lot of the same campaign points as he does now. Yeah. So it's going to be I think what's interesting is like it's going to be less about personalities, like because everyone's now just sort of like differentiating themselves with like the ideas they have of trying to achieve the thing we have to like amy klobuchar on monday i want to say like at her town hall someone asked
Starting point is 00:45:09 like oh do you think medicare for all is possible she's like no she's like yeah and i can't and she's trying to put herself as like i'm going to be the pragmatic person who's just going to try and be like what is the thing we can achieve like i i understand people want this thing but how can we do that i i don't i don't know if I totally agree with her assessment of like what can be done with health care. But, you know, that's how she's sort of differentiating herself. And it's no longer like, oh, is it the woman versus the old white guy versus the whatever? It's like whose version of policy? Which is great.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I mean, it's like good that there's more voices out there that you have to choose from. So it doesn't come down to like quite such an, like an identity based decision. You know, I just, I just, I think the best thing about Bernie was he changed the conversation and it forced a lot of other people to embrace ideas that they never would have been talking about. And so if it's not Bernie,
Starting point is 00:46:01 it's going to be different because of Bernie. And I'm grateful for that, for him, for him, for that. So I'm excited, you know, that we're at least I mean, that's the only upside to Trump is that he's made everybody politically activated, you know, and realize what their priorities are. And that's that's kind of great. I think another interesting point that super producer Nick Stump was bringing up is you know a lot of people i mean i saw even firsthand when i was kind of doing like very light coverage of the election in 2016 as i'd go to trump rallies and talk to people and a lot of people were like i was for bernie until hillary got the nomination and now i'm for trump those people are insane yeah and i think what would
Starting point is 00:46:39 be interesting is like is he going to be able to draw these people who may have voted for trump are are those the sort of moderates who thought oh i'll just go with trump who might come back into the fray and then and to some extent i mean i think there was a lot of in that election people making a point like there were people in my family who like fucking voted for jill stein or did not vote at all because they were so upset that bernie didn't get the nomination and it's like you know small factions like that and people who are able to flip to Trump, like, I mean, whatever the logic is, but at least a little bit out of spite,
Starting point is 00:47:09 you know, were part of the reason that he was able to be elected. And so I think hopefully in 2020, the general public has some sort of understanding that that's not a productive thing to do. Yeah. No, especially, yeah, now that we see the world that we're living in.
Starting point is 00:47:26 But again, you know, it's early doors still. So we'll see who walks the walk and who talks the talk. And who knows, we might end up being like, what? Pete Buttigieg or Beto? Howard Schultz. Yeah. Well, I think we also, too, a lot of progressives or liberals are so desperate and despondent about like the current situation that anything, well, it's the Mueller probe or a candidate who seemingly
Starting point is 00:47:46 could win an election, everyone's like, oh, Jesus Christ, please fucking get something. I want to see a president with a hump. There we go. Well, let's get Quasimodo. That's what I'm talking about. Quasimodo, Esmeralda 2020. Stop doing central casting. And Esmeralda's goat.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Esmeralda will be president and Quasimodo should be the vice president. I'm down for that. I want a president that has anda's goat. Yeah. You know, Esmeralda will be president and Quasimodo should be the vice president. Yes. I'm down for that. I want a president that has an emotional support goat. There you go. Let's move on to Roger Stone since we're talking about Trump fuckery a little bit. Just really quickly, this dude is a fucking moron.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And I don't know how else to put this shit. Because on Monday, he posted a picture of the federal judge presiding over his case Paul Manafort's case and the other one against the GRU which is like their Russian intelligence operation that was hacking the fucking emails yeah it's her photo of Amy Berman Jackson with like what looks like a crosshairs like a you know a rifle crosshair like near her head and it says through legal trickery, deep state hitman, Robert Mueller has guaranteed that my upcoming show trial is before Judge Amy Berman Jackson,
Starting point is 00:48:48 an Obama appointed judge who dismissed the Benghazi charges against Hillary, or he said again Hillary, Clinton, and incarcerated Paul Manafort prior to the conviction for any crime,
Starting point is 00:48:58 blah, blah, blah, fusion helped me fight my fight. And then he puts his shit up for his legal defense fund because he's broke. Yeah. Because I think, you know, up until this point roger stone has basically been living in a consequence-free world uh and didn't really realize that legal fees for fighting a federal case
Starting point is 00:49:12 might stack up be a bit steep i mean talk about the dark side of crowdfunding yeah yeah and before he used some shit he was selling roger stones which were stones with his name on it that he would sell you because he autographed it and then that would give you like uh oh wait those sound pretty cool yeah what yeah well look i mean they might be still for sale to help his legal defense fund fuck roger stone piece of shit motherfuckers i mean you can bottom feeder he like dresses like he dresses like he's at a steampunk convention 24 7 like he just just has no grip on reality. He has some cool eyewear sometimes. He's got fits.
Starting point is 00:49:46 He's an idiot. The thing was his, I don't know, someone clearly told him, he's like, I would take this the fuck down, Roger Stone. You don't want to be putting photos of the judge presiding over your case. Right. Not even anything that could remotely be suggesting any kind of violence towards a federal judge. So then he took it down without less, he had a photo that was less crosshairs. He didn't have a bold face crosshair.
Starting point is 00:50:09 It was like a zoom, zoom in on her face. And then he took that one down because I was like, dude, just stop doing this. And then did like a text post of like, I had previously put a photo of judge Amy, like,
Starting point is 00:50:19 and tried to fucking clean it up. It didn't work. Pulled that again to the point where his lawyers literally filed a notice of apology with the court to basically say undersigned counsel
Starting point is 00:50:32 with the attached authority of Roger J. Stone hereby apologizes to the court for the improper photograph and comment posted on Instagram today. It says Instagram
Starting point is 00:50:41 also. Mr. Stone recognizes the impropriety and had it removed. That's so funny. He went on to blame like an intern or some shit. Okay, a young person could not possibly have conceived this. I was like, you know what would be cool? As if like we kind of do diet inciting of violence. Light inciting of violence.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Lighthearted calls for violence. This is, I mean, you can tell by the Photoshop job, by the font, by the typos, this was not done by a youth. Unless that youth was fully on meth. Right. Like, this is an old person Instagram post. Roger Stone reminds me of a youth on meth. He has that vibe. And then, so, what happened was, you you know the judge does not fuck around with this
Starting point is 00:51:26 kind of shit and you know when you like i said when you consider how substantial her role is in this muller investigation like presiding over the manafort case and this other one against russian intelligence like she is a big deal and she's not gonna let shit like this stand so she clapped back with like another order for Mr. Stone saying that Roger Stone Jr. defendant is ordered to show cause at a hearing to be held on Thursday, February 21st as to why the media contact order entered in this case and or his conditions of release should not be modified or revoked in light of the posts on his Instagram account. On his Instagram account. So basically that is what in legal terms we call a pull up with that same energy order to come to court, which essentially could mean that she could be like, you know what, man? I think you need to be in jail.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Or she could drastically affect his liberty. I mean, I truly think that just everyone needs to like log out this year for a little while and get their fucking bearings. But this, I mean, it is, I think, generally positive for him ending up in jail, which seemed like an inevitability anyways. But who knows? Guys like this get away with shit all the time. But if he's fucking going off on Instagram and that makes it easier to put such a storied criminal in jail, then good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Like, fuck it. It's funny that the internet, I mean, has changed. I mean, obviously changed everything, but it's really, it's not something that those older people really grasp. So they don't understand that this is a new, they don't, it's really kind of funny to watch. They're so used to getting away with shit because before the internet, it was so easy. There was nothing to worry about. They could do all this shit in the dark they had connections they had lawyers that they don't know what to do so they think they can still do shit like they're like oh i can put up an instagram post because no i never have experienced any
Starting point is 00:53:17 consequences ever so like what what are the consequences oh wait there's real consequences like how many people see that do a lot of people see my Instagram post? It's like my dad sending like a – putting a post up or sending a quiet – what do you call it? Listen to me. I am old. Listen, you know what? He's sending a quiet message.
Starting point is 00:53:35 My dad is trying to send a quiet message on Facebook. A direct message? But it ends up being a post. You know what I mean? He sent like something very sensitive to a friend of his that was like, well, my dad's just always being negative, so he was insulting somebody or something. And he put it up as a post. As a status update.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah. You know what I mean? These people don't quite know. Right. And it's great. It's great because the patriarchy is going to go down eventually, hopefully faster than... But the internet has helped a tremendous amount. Especially when you consider Paul Manafort.
Starting point is 00:54:02 They figured a lot of his shit out because he was sending emails, like, in text me, like, I don't know how to, like, doctor up this PDF.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Right. Help me forge this document. How do I kill more people fast? They don't even know how to encrypt shit. They have no idea what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:54:17 you know, it's great. I'm sure that this, and I'm sure that this post matches up with all 900 of Stone's Rules or whatever the fuck it is but like it's just like that doesn't work anymore you can't you can't do that what's stone's rules you gotta
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Starting point is 00:58:20 And why, Jamie, won't the press just let Malia Obama live? I don't know. Couldn't tell you. Let her fucking live. It's so this is for some. I mean, and it's it's kind of goes without saying that the children of presidents, especially the female children of presidents, have been harassed by the media from time immemorial. But Malia, especially from this specific outlet, from the Daily Mail, the Daily Mail is just following Malia Obama around. And so this week they caught her in Miami, wait for it, drinking rosé, but she's 20.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Oh, fuck. I know. I mean, she's canceled. Unfortunately, she drank underage, so she's can't she's canceled unfortunately she's she drank under age so she's canceled she's canceled i'm like i was like blackout drunk at my fucking freshman finals like they're whatever she's fine uh but and and then uh later which she also has a facebook account that's no not under a name? I can't imagine why this would be. And she had posted two years ago some anti-Trump sentiments. Can you believe this?
Starting point is 00:59:31 Wait, what were these anti-sentiments? Okay, so, Malia Obama radically wrote on four Post-its. Oh my God. I know. She wrote on four pink Post-its and then hung it up. I'm pretty sure that this was also something that John Oliver instructed people to do on his show at the time, but she wrote Donald Trump is president. This is not normal. Donald Trump is evil. Don't
Starting point is 00:59:52 be complacent. Which is whatever. She should be on a watch list. I mean, we have to be careful because she has also been caught by the Daily Mail doing things like playing beer pong. That's all right. Kissing a boyfriend. Wearing a bathing suit.
Starting point is 01:00:08 They gave her shit for having a... That's like the most normal bathing suit in the world. My fucking... It said like Malia Obama flaunts bathing suit. I'm like, no, you're a pervert. Like for real, flaunts. Flaunts? Flaunts bathing suit. She was caught smoking weed
Starting point is 01:00:24 at Lollapalooza and then the next year she She was caught smoking weed at Lollapalooza. And then the next year she was not caught smoking weed at Lollapalooza. She was just caught dancing to The Killers, which is, I think, the worst defense on the entire list. That is funny. It's just, I mean, it's obviously bullshit, but it has just become one of the many stories in this weekend's news cycle that people have given undue attention to. And even the, like, I feel stupid talking about why it's stupid that we're talking like that's too many just it's racist that's all it is she's in college yeah i mean because even yeah he's just plain racist chelsea ever get this much attention she did like were they being like she's smoking
Starting point is 01:01:00 oh i remember yeah the bush i can remember fake ids IDs. And that was like and I'm sure and I'm not saying that it's not like racially driven as well. But I mean, this does happen to all of the children of presidents and past presidents. But it does seem like especially because it's social media related now. And they're really the like Sasha and Malia are the kids that existed in the white house while there was social media that that they're piled on especially hard for a number of reasons well and i think maybe the part that is more you know i think they'll always report about you know they love the clickbait of like oh this first child did this but i think it's the amplification that comes from people with a little more like racial animus that are just like, oh yeah, look at fucking Obama's I can't do it,
Starting point is 01:01:45 pounding roses. Drinking roses. The reaction and the difference in reaction to where white people will be like, oh, Brett Kavanaugh, boys will be boys. He mentions being drunk
Starting point is 01:01:54 like 58 million times in his fucking confirmation hearing. Hey, you should be on the Supreme Court. And like, well, the Obama's drinking rosé and I'm sure the reaction to that is like, oh my God. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Oh, Jesus. Look it, she's running wild oh she has a kendall jackson tattoo and fucking brett kavanaugh runs wild and it's like oh he's just he's just sowing his oats right i mean well it's like this is like bullshit and everyone knows it's bullshit and i'm just leave her the fuck alone she's in college people were making a big deal about how much the rosé costs it's just like who gives a fuck we should talk about important shit
Starting point is 01:02:26 let's just stop it we gotta stop we should be talking about the important shit the 1971 interview that John Wayne did yeah let's get to that speaking of being cancelled
Starting point is 01:02:34 what the fuck happened Jamie cause you're like you came in this morning you're like yo did you hear about that John Wayne article like he's cancelled
Starting point is 01:02:41 and I'm like he's dead he's been dead for 40 years and yet it can be both you he's been dead for 40 years and yet it can be both you can be both dead for 40 years and absolutely canceled did you know what till the hun was problematic right well this is well this is like another one of those stories where you're just like i mean yeah but why was the there's other things we could talk about. There was a Twitter user who I'm assuming found his dad's old Playboy issue when he was home visiting or something. He was like, oh my.
Starting point is 01:03:11 He just pulls this random issue of Playboy from 1971 and there is a Playboy interview with John Wayne. I remember I used to work in the Playboy archives, brag. So I remember that this interview is not good, but it's like, if you read any interview with John Wayne, it is not good. If anyone is familiar, it's like he famously played characters in blackface. He played characters in yellowface.
Starting point is 01:03:37 He was nominated for Oscars for doing this shit. He is bad. It is so confusing to me. It's not omg gasp surprise they're like wait hold on a second like civil rights activist john wayne like feminist icon john wayne said these things and and they are horrifying i mean i don't even want to repeat them i don't want to you know what's the point but there's yeah he says homophobic things about the movies Easy Rider and Midnight Cowboy because 1971. He says very racist things about Angela Davis and about the black community in general. I mean, even in the cover photo of this story, he literally says, quote, I believe in white supremacy.
Starting point is 01:04:24 It's just like he is not like he's a bad person yeah well let's finish that quote i believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility i don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people mean black people okay well anyway it's it's just i mean he's horrible it is so weird that this is a story right now. It would be interesting if Gloria, if they dug up a Gloria Steinem interview where she said that shit, then that would be interesting. Right. It's so weird.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But to look back at a time where we know there was so much progress to be made, even fucking now. Right. And to be like, I can't believe that. It's just like, yeah, that's that's you're looking at a bygone era. There has to be a daily outrage. And I guess that's the daily they they couldn't have one there was no current one so they were like hey what about this one in 1971 what about there's like a white supremacist that are alive well and currently serving an office like what or on fucking tv exactly it's fucking ridiculous but i mean i i would would just like to say as problematic as Playboy is as a publication, I read through the interview and I would give slight props to the interviewer guy who I'd never heard of before.
Starting point is 01:05:35 But his name is Richard Warren Lewis, who asked the questions that got all this like bullshit on paper, because it's like if you're doing a profile of someone you don't have to ask them questions like that he could have very easily done a glorified like a real playboy when it's like wow your bulge is pretty big what a fucking baller over here how do you walk with that big ass those balls bro yeah i mean it's like obviously it's like why even give this guy a platform even in 1971 but at least if if that the subject, at least they got all his bullshit out so people could, I don't know, talk about it on Twitter. It's just very odd. It seems like an SNL sketch.
Starting point is 01:06:11 It's surreal. There's nothing to be achieved by it. It's just outrage porn, plain old. I mean, it's just like, we got nothing to post about today, so let's dig this shit up. And there's nothing you can do about it. This doesn't move anything further. The fucking 1971 was a long time ago
Starting point is 01:06:27 and 1971 was what it was. I mean, like Stonewall Jackson had some hot takes on Native Americans. It's just like, listen, if you live near his grave and you got to pee today,
Starting point is 01:06:39 take a pee pee on it. Whatever. But it's just. But John Wayne, I mean, this is useless. I think this is But John Wayne... But this is useless. This story is silly. I think this is useless outrage because that doesn't change him in any way.
Starting point is 01:06:52 He died with these beliefs. It's just sport. So why are we giving it a platform again? It's sport. It's not activism. It's sport. That's all I can say. It's not activism.
Starting point is 01:07:00 There's no way to be activist about John Wayne. It's not activism. It's just... It's sport. It's just activism. There's no way to be activist about John Wayne. Right. It's not activism. It's just, it's sport. It's just so dumb. Everyone should hit the streets, put on a sturdy pair of pants. Mm-hmm. Seamless flying at the alley. And smoke rocks on a loading dock.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Let's get back to nature. I mean, it's definitely very case by case. In this case, I don't see point of of this story being talked about right now there's no point and if you if you want to get mad about shit just read the regular news you don't find these articles about canceling people it's not like you can find your daily dose of injustice it's not a slow fucking news day i was like what is i don't know it's just weird anyways john uh john wayne's canceled sig for the right and i'm also gonna say john wayne casey also canceled john wayne oh my who else he's canceled just Siegfried and Leroy. And I'm also going to say John Wayne Gacy also canceled. John Wayne Gacy.
Starting point is 01:07:45 He's canceled. Oh my. Who else? He's canceled. Just stop there. I couldn't imagine anyone else who would cancel. I got a list. Who else would you cancel? I got a list.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I would. Okay. I would cancel. Don't cancel Ted Bundy. Listen. No. I mean, well, that seems to be up in the air right now. Ted Bundy's too hot to cancel.
Starting point is 01:07:59 No, he's not. He's too hot. I'll also cancel John Wayne Bobbitt. He's canceled. Because I did. If you've watched the Lorena Bobbitt he's canceled because I did if you've watched the Lorena Bobbitt documentary on Amazon Prime
Starting point is 01:08:08 very good really enjoyed it I thought it was very well done but he has a ton of John Wayne shit in his house because John Wayne
Starting point is 01:08:16 is now the framed poster and coffee mug dude for racist old guys that's why and that's why because of interviews like this it's just what
Starting point is 01:08:23 John Wayne Bobbitt canceled John Wayne canceled John Wayne Bobbitt canceled. John Wayne canceled. John Wayne Casey canceled. I want to cancel Joey Botafuco. Oh, my. Cancel him. Wow.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Well, this is the social justice outrage hour. All John Waynes are canceled. Well, thank you so much, y'all, for joining me. It has been a pleasure. Chris. Yes. Where can people find you, follow you, support you? Well, people should go buy my record album, my music record on Arrowhawk, the labels Arrowhawk Records, because someone did message me and said, you're funny, so is your music a bit?
Starting point is 01:08:57 And my music is not a bit. I've been doing it for like 20 years and it's real. It's real. It's real it's real it's real uh sadness um and uh and you can get the record at arrowhawkrecords.com or uh or you know go on like bandcamp for arrowhawk records and uh you can also follow me on at the crofton show and you can follow me at chris underscore crofton on Instagram. Instagram. Instagram if you are a lawyer.
Starting point is 01:09:27 As the old white guys say. Yami Lofty, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter.com at Jamie Lofty's Help and on Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar. And listen to the Bechdel cast. It comes out on Thursdays. Yeah, Bechdel cast. Oh, also are there tweets you guys like? Any tweets you remember?
Starting point is 01:09:45 I just want to get those out there so we can bless the people. Oh, also, are there tweets you guys like? Any tweets you remember? I just want to get those out there so we can bless the people. I tend to like all my tweets at the Crofton Show. They're really good. Oh, here's something fun. Maybe some people at the table won't like this, but Elizabeth Brunig at E-B-R-U-E-N-I-G tweeted today, Regarding John Wayne, I have already preemptively canceled all persons born before 1985 as a
Starting point is 01:10:07 matter of national security. Weren't we just talking about that? That we would have to cancel everybody before like 1980 something. Yeah, I think she decided the year, which is great. There's a tweet. Then I'm canceled. You're done. Gotta go.
Starting point is 01:10:19 What year? 85. Oh, I'm canceled. I'm the king of Cancelvania. So, yeah, I want everybody, my tweet that I like is best name for my new delicatessen, and it's a poll, and everybody needs to vote in it. Right now, the choices are Chris's Meat. This is like my new delicatessen I'm opening.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Okay. Chris's Meat, Bacon, Lettuce, and Fun, Meat and Greet, M-E-A-T, or Beef Alley. Right now, Beef Alley's in the lead. I think I'm with Beef Alley. Okay, Beef Alley's probably going to win. Okay, I think Bacon, Lettuce, and Fun's pretty nice. And Chris's Meat. But anyway, go vote in my Twitter poll.
Starting point is 01:10:59 That's my tweet that I like. You can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey. Let's see. A tweet that I like. Yes. This is actually just... It's really stupid, but I just kind of... I like the construction of it. It's from Adam Conover
Starting point is 01:11:17 from Adam Ruins Everything. Someone tweeted at him and just said, I just want to say I used to really not like you, but after I watched a few of your videos, I started to like you more and more. And now your show, Adam Wins Everything, is one of my favorite shows to watch. And he just quote tweets that and he says, the hero's journey. That was good. That show is deceptive because like Her Majesty used to work on that show.
Starting point is 01:11:37 And a lot of people, I think initially they're like, oh, OK, let's see what it's about. And then towards the end, like even people who are very conservative end up thinking very radically. Like, oh, I learned something. Yeah, that is bullshit. Wait a second. Redlining? Huh? Well, yes. And you can follow us, The Daily Zeitgeist, at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:11:56 We have a Facebook page. What else? We've got a... What is that called? A website? I think it's www.dailyzeitgeist.com where you can find our links to the different shows along with our footnotes.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Footnotes. Oh, thank you. Sorry much. As well as the song we ride out on, and I think we know what that's going to be. Chris, can you intro the ride out song? I sure can. Everybody get their biking shorts on
Starting point is 01:12:22 that say Radical on the side and get in the sit-up position. With a square root symbol. And thank you. Also, thank you so much for having me back on here. It's so fucking fun. Oh, yeah. And thank you, Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:12:35 And thank you, Jamie Loftus and Miles and Anna and Nick, too. So, yeah, this is Get Ready. This is something that's going to motivate you to quit your job and get out there and put on your pants and get on the loading docks. This is called Lachini's Juice. And the band, please. Oh, by Live. There we go. By the number one band in Holland still.
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