The Daily Zeitgeist - President Truman (Show), White House DOWN For Some Action 05.01.25

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

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Did you guys see the trailer for weapons? Yeah, I didn't like it. Because it's too freaky? Yeah, yeah. Fuck me. That shit looks so fucking freaky. I get it. I remember Jack a lot of the time when we talk about stuff,

and as you newly became a a parent you'd like say so like it's really hard to watch man we got kids like it's just like i can't really i can't even watch nature documentaries oh like if like like if a baby bird falls out of the babies they're just like nature is cruel man they're like and this baby calf so so innocent. Right. So slow. Your kids are like, daddy, can we watch blue planet? You're like, fuck no, we can't watch blue planet. I'm not subjecting you to that violence. But yeah, that trailer. Stays close to its mother's teat as it is ripped asunder.

Jesus fuck. Wow. Which one is that? Is it just the idea about the kids disappearing that freaks you out, or that the kids get real bad and spooky when they disappear? Amen. All of it. I'm just all of it.

I don't like any of it. You're like, I'm just saying hits too close to home, man. Don't ask any questions. My kids wake up in the middle of the night like single white female. I'm just in their room in the dark being like, what's up? You good? You're not getting one over on me. like single white female. I'm just in their room in the dark being like, what's up? You good? You're not getting one over on me.

Where the fuck do you think you're going? To the bathroom. I needed to drink water. Make it quick. You want water? I got one right here. Here's a cup. Go ahead. Now lay down.

All right. We'll call that a cold open. Justin, you good? Yeah, that works. Even the banter up top before we start recording is commodified now, man. Gosh. That's unbelievable.

That was actually- That cold open brought to you by a cold beer you'd like to open. Brought to you by weapons out this summer on IMAX. All right. Weapons out this summer on IMAX. Right. Hello, the internet and welcome to season 386, episode four of Dirt Haley's Iguise. A production of I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. America. Oh consciousness. America. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, it's Thursday, May 1st, 2025. Hey. Shout out to my eldest who turns nine today. Oh, really? It's crazy. Yeah. Hey, May Day in America, otherwise known

as International Workers Day. Never heard of it, Miles. We take it to America's shared consciousness. It's called May Day here. Everywhere else, it's a reminder of the power of collective action and just how pivotal the work of all of us laborers do for the economy. But anyway, here we are. It's whatever, May Day, International Workers Day. It's also school-

What is it here in America, Miles? It's May Day. Also International what? Also International Principals Day, obviously. Hey, there we go. That seems safer. Law Day, never heard of law. National Day of Prayer. Jeez, it's a lot of mother-goose day.

Yeah. Now, that's what I'm talking about. National loyalty day, that's very coded. There it is. Like with an American flag, like, hey, you're loyal to the flag, not your fellow workers. National loyalty day. Also, national chocolate parfait day. Okay, we hit one out of seven, I guess. So I'll, I'm going to do national mother goose day. Shout out mother Mother Goose and chocolate parfaits, unless Mother Goose was like a Nazi or something is a milkshake goose.

Oh yeah, the milkshake goose. My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, AKA. Can't let the flies just lie. Raccoon latrine. Shout out to everybody on the Discord coming together because- Raccoon latrine!

Raccoon latrine! Raccoon latrine! Raccoon latrine! Glycerine! Hey everyone. It must be easier to shit in piles. Look raccoon latrine. Shout out SirRosesOfTheRiver, HalcyonSalad, all the people that got together to make raccoon latrine shout out sir roses of the river halcyon salad all the people that got together to make

Raccoon latrine happened because yes, I found out there was such a thing as a raccoon latrine over the weekend still fascinated by it Yeah, so thank you for that. Then Halcyon salad was like ever since I heard that episode. I can't stop hearing raccoon latrine in during Raccoon Latrine in the Bush song, Glycerine. Raccoon Latrine. Thank you. I'm glad I can contribute to people's earworms. That's great. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests, one of our favorite humans. He co-founded the magazine Mental Floss,

ran the New York studios at I Heart for a while, then went and started Kaleidoscope, a very exciting podcast studio. He once again hosts the show, Part-Time Genius. Please welcome back to the show, the brilliant, the talented, Mangesh Hatikador.

I feel like I can't live up to any of that. No. Come on, man. That's sweet. It's so exciting to be here with you. Just what I guess. That's a very Kermit. That's a Kermit-ass response.

Oh, yeah. Did you grow up on Kermit? Yeah. And everyone told me I was Kermit. No, they did not. I hated it for such a long time. He was like, he's just a nice guy. But then I realized I liked him.

I was like, I'm going to be a Kermit. I'm going to be a Kermit. I'm going to be a Kermit. I'm going to be a Kermit. I'm going to be a Kermit. I'm going to be a Kermit. I'm going to be a Kermit. I'm going to be a Kermit. I'm going to be a Kermit and I hated it for such a long time. He was like, he's just a nice guy. But then I realized I like making productions and I live in total chaos as they're happening. Right.

Very Kermit-like. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen you type before where your arms are just flailing like this. I was like, I'm a little worried about his carpal tunnel if that's how he's typing. But his arms go wild when he's just walking. When he's running, his arms are flopping all over the place. Loves a road trip.

Loves a road trip. Got to love a road trip. Oh man. Well, it's great to have you back. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things that we're talking about. We're going to take a quick look at the dynamic that's going to get us all killed. We're going to look at this meeting that happened with Trump and some of his advisors to celebrate his 100 days of accomplishments, of wins.

And just like the, yeah, it's, it's very dear leader vibes, as you put it, Miles, in this. It's very much like, how do we- I mean, you see it all the time, but it, you're, you're, you will get mother goosebumps. Okay. Listening to this 100%, it's terrible. Creepy as fuck.

And then we're going to look at one of the great genres of American film, the presidential action movie, because they're back. They've got two, one just dropped called G 20 where Viola Davis is the U S president and it's just die hard at the G 20. Okay. And then there's also another one where, one where John Cena plays a Republican president. It looks like shit, looks terrible, which it turns out a lot of these presidential action movies where US presidents kick ass.

In retrospect, might have been like weird propaganda. No. I guess I had never, our writer, J.M. was like, think about if you saw a movie from Russia where like Vladimir Putin was just beating the shit up. It would look so silly, it would just be like this is the silliest propaganda.

Yet I just went to the movies and was like, Harrison Ford is cool. I didn't think twice about it. Did you see that take where people are trying to say that Indiana Jones was like free from any kind of political commentary? Oh, really? Conservatives. You're like, no, they're, they're trying to project too much meaning onto this.

They're like, first of all, Harrison Ford is Jewish and he's punching out a bunch of Nazis in his movies, but. Oh, they're trying to be like, it wasn't taking a stance on Nazis? Exactly. Exactly. Oh, wow. It's like, it works. All right. Yeah.

I'm just saying, people are giving, hey, give art your own meaning day. One of the great observations about the original Raiders of the Lost Ark is that if Indiana Jones had not been there, everything would have happened almost exactly the same. Like they would have gotten the arc. They would have opened it. They would have all melted themselves. So in many ways he was actually trying to help the Nazis. So it was actually pro Nazi propaganda.

I wish you would back off. Yeah. Anyways, all of that, plenty more, but first, I guess we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? So I am working on a show called How to Live Forever right now, which is, you know, I'm just so enamored with how these billionaires are spending all their lives believing that they're going to live to 160. But they're also crazy things like cats that, I think Rick Perry's cousin is helping them live to their 30s.

They're like- Letting cats live to their 30s. Yeah, with tiny thimbles of wine and there's a whole exercise course for them. The wine thing. Wait, is the wine thing real? Because I always assumed that was just wishful thinking. Is it real? Well, for cats it is.

I don't know about us. For cats, yeah. With a little bit of wine. Wow. Okay. I mean, it takes the edge off, I guess. But there are all these like, and they're miracles of science right now, like there are these dancing molecules that in a lab in Northwestern, they have severed

mice's spines to make them paraplegic and then give them this injection and within a month they're like walking normally again. And like, the advances in science are unbelievable, but also there's all this like, snake oil and like, what happens what happened when billionaires stop giving their money to society and taking billionaires pledge and just conserving it for when they're living to 200 or whatever. But in all this research, I stumbled into this rabbit hole on the enhanced games.

Have you been paying attention to this? It's basically an all drug Olympics. Olympics. Oh, they're doing it. I know that it was a Peter Thiel pitch at one point, but I didn't know that they did it. It's supposed to happen next year. And there's all this craziness of like trying to figure out where is it going to be because they're like, you know, you can, I think, dope up as much as you want for these Olympics.

They're getting people who are like retired Olympians and people who've failed out of the, they were like a fifth place swimmer or whatever, and they're getting roided up and other drugs obviously. Then they're getting these huge cash prizes to beat the Michael Phelps record. prizes to beat Michael Phelps record. The whole world is fascinating to me. The fact that the Olympics themselves are pretty corrupt. There are things where Ben Johnson and Carl Lewis took- Ben Johnson.

Yeah. They took the same drugs. One of them is a hero and the other is like, you know, this pariah and like, we all knew this took those drugs, too. Yeah. Yeah. My come on. Not my Carl. 92 Barcelona Olympics. So that's been like documented since.

Yeah. Yeah. No, but but but there's a documentary about it. been documented since? Yeah. Has he admitted? No. But there's a documentary about it, about steroids, that talks about it. Ben Johnson just didn't hide it as well, because he definitely looked more on steroids than I think anyone I've ever seen. Well, I think also, I think the countries are better at hiding

it than other countries, right? Certain doctors are better at hiding it. So whether it's Russia or China or various places, Eastern Germany, right, was very, very good at hiding it and not hiding it. But anyway, like the fact that like you, one, like the countries are trying to bid on whether they can like sportswash through like an all-drug Olympics is like kind of stunning to me. Right. And also just the people are invested in this because they feel like people like Peter Thiel are invested in it because they hope that all these longevity drugs

will come out of an Olympics. And it's hard to tell, you know, is it going to be like a fire festival of sport or is it going to be like something that makes money and becomes like, you know, regularly watched on TV or where we have in it. Where's it located? Haven't announced yet. Oh, international waters. Yeah.

Is that, or we're going to see it like the first televised like race where people are having a, like a heart attack during the butterfly stroke of a swim competition and you're like, Oh boy. Oh my gosh. I got air while doing the heart pumping out of his chest. I feel like it either needs to be Vegas or Detroit in honor of RoboCop. I'm not sure. Yeah, right.

Or like, or it does just be like Saudi Arabia to your. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, right. Like, or like, or it'll just be like Saudi Arabia to your point. Yeah, Saudi Arabia. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah. And it just like, place it in this whole like weird, there was a GQ article about like, everyone you know is on steroids, you know, and it feels like all of this. I know.

No, I'm not Jack. I told you I'm not. Yeah, I had to ask my mom twice. She denied it. This article says everyone I know. Then she lifted the couch with one hand. It was crazy. Got terrible back acne too, I noticed. But it is, I mean,

this whole world of biohacking and human augmentation where people showed up two feet tall or like six inches taller after the pandemic because they'd had those like leg lifting processes. You know, like, like this whole world is so bizarre and it's fascinating to see what'll stick. I have some suspicions. There was one time where like I ran into someone I hadn't seen in a while and they were definitely

taller than they used to be and I just like wouldn't I Because I hadn't really thought of that as being a real thing. Yeah, let it rest I'd be like, how are you so damn tall? That's crazy. It's like you hit a goddamn growth spurt in your 30s And eventually they're like, yeah, man, just like stop just like no I've always been this tall I don't know what you're talking about. Oh Yeah, I had my bones extended Extension yeah

You were saying before we record Brian Johnson is hosting that show with you. That's your co-host the guy So that's cool. No, that's not true. That's, uh, that's, that is super interesting. I can't wait to have them have these games and they can't even get close to the real Olympian records because they were all on steroids too. You know, we'll see. What's something man guess that you think is underrated?

I mean, this is, this sounds obvious or something, but like, or maybe like, it's not a good argument, but I feel like New York City is underrated. Or do you say overrated or underrated? Underrated. Yeah, I think, I think New York City is underrated. And I think it's been under so much attack from people like politicians talking about the crime or our mayor being ridiculous or the congestion pricing or whatever. But I think what's amazing to me is that when I wander around New York, I just see so many examples of community. That to me is really hopeful in

this moment of being terrified by headlines. My son is part of an Afro-Cuban jazz band, like an all city Afro-Cuban jazz band, and it's dope and they all hang out and eat Dominican chicken and like, you know, and like it's just like joyous or like you walk past like community gardens and like on my street in two different blocks. They're like people playing dominoes.

And it's just like, I feel like there's so many different ways. I'm part of a co-op and, you know, like just the fact that like I'm do a cheese shift and I'm hanging out with people who like are school teachers or own restaurants or like, you know, are aspiring actors or whatever is just like joyous. And I feel like this reminder constantly that you're part of a community,

whether it's like, you know, taking us away's like taking us away or walking to the bodega and knowing my neighbors. I'm just really inspired by it. You can't avoid people as easily in New York. No. That's my main complaint with it. Yeah. They're everywhere. What is a cheese shift?

Did you say cheese shift? Yeah. Yeah. So you're taking a shift at the co-op. What is a cheese shift? Did you say cheese shift? Yeah. Yeah. So that's you're taking a shift at the co-op. And working as a cheese monger. Yeah. I mean, basically working as a cheese monger or you're like cutting like with the cheese slicer, all these like various like exotic cheese. Which has to be hard with your Kermit ass arms.

But yeah. It's super fast. Yeah. When I get excited. My outlet, yeah. But I don't, I mean, like there's a shift where you just go take coffee to, and hand out coffee on the streets to like, to the unhoused people around us. And like, I don't know, I love the co-op.

So. Yeah. No, I agree. Eric Adams is getting way too much negative press. I think he's great. We're big fans of this podcast. Yeah. He's a little quirky, but this is the greatest city in America. You can have a 911 or meet a neighbor at a cheese ship at the co-op.

I feel that every time I go to New York, I love walking and just hearing every just kind of New Yorker there is like having an argument or like helping somebody. Yeah, exactly. This guy. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Forget about it. Yo, deadass. Yo, deadass. Oh, forget about it. Yo, dead ass. Yo, dead ass. Little town. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But like that is, it truly, like in LA, we're just so siloed in our cars

and you have to be in a specific place with a gift, like with your community or depending on what neighborhood you live in too. But yeah, there is, yeah, underrated. Yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I mean, everything like gets in the news for bad stuff. For sure. We don't just have a story about, hey, here's a cool thing that happened in New York because

a bunch of people cared about the people around them. Right, right, right. Wait, you threw congestion pricing in with the bad press. We're big fans of the idea here of congestion pricing. Where are we at with congestion pricing? Has it worked? What's the latest there? I think it's great. I mean, it forces the traffic out of the city and people... And there are all sorts of like, if you're special needs for handicapped drivers or whatever. That's all figured out. It's mostly really rich people who are complaining

about driving within the city from the upper part of the city, the middle part of the city. Yeah, it became like a right-wing talking point to be like, they're encroaching on your freedoms. It's like, okay, yeah. I went on a family vacation last year to Florida or two years ago. It was like people were just saying, oh my God, New York's the worst.

How could you live there? It's so unsafe. It was like, I don't know. On Friday, we had a roller skating party for my kid at like the park. And it was just like, uh, and it was eight o'clock and it was like eight 30. It was like filled with all these people playing basketball on table tennis and people of different ages. And it was just like people walking along the pier. It's like, I don't know.

It's not that bad. No, no, no, no. Man. It's not back I don't know, it's not that bad. It is a great thing. Man, I got to move back to New York. It's fucking awesome. And you do cool stuff. I remember just talking to you and you were like, all right, I'm going to go to this art party that we do every Tuesday with my kids, where we just come up.

I'm just like, that's so cool. Look at the way he walks. They even walk cooler in New York. That is an amazing thing is that like, like my kids both go to public school, but there's like an amazing amount of hubris that comes from like being in New York City, right? Like my son walked up to heams from Dastresa at a party and he was like trying to sell him beats. I was like, Henry, do you make beats? He's like, I don't know. He hasn't rapped in a long time. I feel like I could make something for him. Wow.

I feel like I could get him back out there. Yeah. Kimonshu. That's great. Hey, if you can make it there, I've heard people say, it's pretty good. If you can make it there, it's pretty good, as the saying goes.

Meghash, what's something you think's overrated I think Mean pranks are overrated. I feel like like the Shidur sanders thing like and I I feel like I feel like kid there's like a whole class of people that don't understand like That pranks can just be like sweet or funny or like I don't know. There's something about pranks that really bother me and the way that people are not figuring out what funny is. I almost feel like we need a prank hotline for kids to call up to figure out whether their prank is viable or not.

That's just mean. Yeah, you're just, yeah. I mean, yeah. But like, because I read about that at the same time, I was like traveling. So I didn't read about the, like, I guess when the Martin Short was on stage for the Saturday Night Live thing, and he thanked everyone at the end for the credits,

and then Fred Armisen came up to him and he was like, did you mean to call Paul McCartney Tony McCartney? And then for like two days, he thought he'd said Tony McCartney. He thought he called him Tony McCartney. It's such a small, simple prank. And that's really funny versus, I was looking online, there are kids who've spilled boiling water on their friend because they thought hot water, and this kid's in the hospital.

It's like, that's not a prank. It's like, I feel like prank education. It's like, you know, I feel like not a prank education. Yeah, yeah. It would be useful. So yeah. Making Martin short feel a little bit insecure for two days is funny. But yeah, like making somebody who is at like their all time professional low as they like keep sliding through the draft, think they're about to get picked and then like have that not happen.

Isn't funny and like it's like a conceivable scenario. It's like tragedy. Like I, I, yeah, I can't really figure out where they were coming from other than, yeah, I mean, there's just like cruelty as fun as comedy, which. Right. Exactly. It's an extension of that. And like the attention that kid was getting was merely because he's like, Oh,

dude, let's, let's we've just totally fucked with Shadoor Sanders. And that was enough to get, you know, his little bit of clout online. I think, I think that's part of it is like the times have created this, like swing back to like cruelty and comedy. And often, hack comics get to say it's infringing on free speech when it's just really bad comedy. You know? And so I think there's something in there with a... It's not fully formed, but something with the mean pranks falls into that. And I'd like the next generation to be funnier.

Yeah, that would be cool if they were funny. Yeah, it's just like before it was like punching, punching up. And then and we would tell people not to punch down. And now just like punching is funny. And yeah, yeah, punching. Me, I'm a big puncher. Anything that makes somebody feel a little bit worse. That's my thing. Yeah.

All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back. Us? Us, yeah. Oh, shit. Who us? Who me? Yeah. By the way, there is a piece of information from obviously, mangesh, like, you know, just

a font of fascinating information, but like I'm pretending like I've gotten over and like I've continued on with the conversation, but I have in fact not been able to think about anything else that like cats drink wine. It's like good for them. It fits so well with cats. These like sophisticated little fuckers hanging around like French salons and drinking like some red wine. And their little signal chats talking about what they're going to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Anyways, I just want to acknowledge because I'm assuming everybody is listening. It's like, wait, what? Fucking wine. I mean, if you give it to them, they do. And they'll live to 30. That just sounds like the most tick tock ass shit though, too. Or someone's like, dude, I gave my cat wine and it's living till 30 now. I'm like, shit, I'm giving my cat wine.

How much wine? Like a whole, like a Jeroboam a night? That's the big ass bottle. But anyway, yes. Smoking a couple of cigarettes. Yeah, two, three bottle red wine. Two, three bottle red wine. Some sausages. But. Shout out Nick Kroll.

Let's talk about the people who are going to get us killed. They are going to get us killed. Look, we talked on yesterday's show about how Trump's advisors and cabinet officials are just constantly lying to him and it's becoming more and more apparent from the way Trump talks about things. He's like, well, my people told me that's fine. And it's actually legal. And actually the thing that wasn't an L was actually, that was a win. All that to say is all they do is reaffirm his beliefs that he is not bad at

his job or that people don't hate him. And I think seeing this little bit of a get together that happened for his hundred days really underlines that. But first, I really want to talk about this one clip we saw on the last day. He had an interview with ABC where he really let his old man that believes Facebook shit posts flag fly. And he was asked about Kilmar Abrego Garcia and how the man that is innocent and in no way part of MS-13 ended up in a Salvadoran prison. Trump insists that he is bad because he has MS-13 tattooed

on his hands, which is a reference to a shitty photo that is clearly not showing an actual MS-13 tattoo. Like if it's like his hand where he has like a weed leaf, a smiley face across in a skull and above someone just like in MS paint was like MS-13. That's what all these things mean. And I think Trump basically believes that that image is real. Anyway, here he is arguing with Terry Moran from ABC about it.

And this is just a fucking wild back and forth because this is another one of those instances where you're seeing a journalist wild back and forth because this is another one of those instances where you're seeing a journalist push back against Trump and absolutely not budging. And it just gets to the point where he's like, what's going on? What are you doing? You're being that nice. Here's Trump and Terry Moran. He wasn't a member of a gang.

And then they looked and on his knuckles, he had MS-13. There's a dispute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. He had MS-13 on his knuckles he had MS-13. There's a dispute over that. Wait a minute, wait a minute. He had MS-13 on his knuckles tattoo. He had some tattoos that are interpreted that way. But let's move on. Wait a minute.

Hey Terry, Terry, Terry. He did not have the letter MS-13. It says MS-13. That was Photoshopped. So let me show you. It was Photoshopped, Terry. Hey, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime. You know, you're doing the interview I picked you because frankly

I never heard of you, but that's okay Terry hey, but you're not being very nice. He had MS 13 tattooed. We'll agree to disagree I want to move on to something. Oh my god. Do you want me to show you the picture? I saw the picture And you think it was Photoshop. Say yes! Don't Photoshop. Show me the picture! He did have tattoos that can be interpreted that way. I'm not an expert on them.

I want to turn to Ukraine. No, no. Terry, no, no. Oh my God. He had M.S. as clear as you can be. Not interpreted. This is why people no longer believe the news because it's fake news. When he was photographed in El Southamid.

So this goes on. Why did he not just let him show him the fucking pictures so he could say, yo, that is- He's like, that part is not a tattoo, fam. That is Times New Roman. That is typed on the picture, my man. That's Ariel New, sir. It is Ariel New, you're right.

It's not Times New Roman. It wasn't Serif to Times New Roman. They're gonna be font freaks. I did not realize- Because yet people were like, no, I mean, he knows that it's just that that was written on there. He wasn't claiming that that was the actual thing. And then he, he's just like, you know, no, let me get this exactly. Let me get this as clear as I can that I'm wrong about this.

Terry, Terry, honey. He sounds like you remember the Linda honey baby Linda, Linda. Look it. Yeah. Linda, look, that's kind of what he reminds me of. Yeah. 100%. And you know, again, I thought because there's a photo of him.

When he first had this photo in the Oval Office to justify why Kilmar Abrego Garcia was disappeared like that. He was holding this up and he posts that photo regularly to try and justify this illegal trafficking of people. And again, like you, I was like, I feel like he's just trying to have it both ways. But clearly in this interaction, he believes that what that photo is, is the genuine depiction of what his tattoos

actually are. And again, Trump believes this because all of the people enacting his illegal orders have to convince Grandpa that everything they do has some kind of real life justification, even if it doesn't. And all of this sucking up and lying to his face to keep him from becoming like a senile toddler, Again, made painfully clear when his cabinet gathered to pat him on the back for the worst, first 100 days of any presidency in the history of Earth.

But, oh my God, I can't. Then him being like, you're not being very nice. You're being nice. You just get such a clear picture of how this whole thing works. He's just so, I mean that you just get such a clear picture of like how this whole thing works. He's just trying to ram through something that is in his mind. There's just made up 100% by being like, you're not being very nice. I picked you. I'm like giving

you a, the chance of a lifetime, like real, you know, sexual harassing boss. Totally. He also sounds so old, right? Like he's like slurring, his speech feels off. It feels like, like he's making this argument and he sounds so tired and like he can't just, it's just, it's depressing. Terry, Terry, come here. Look at this picture, man. No, you ain't even been there.

The pictures don't lie. Look, look, MS-13 clears day. Come on. Give me, give me the MS-13 picture. Bear in, bear in. We have eliminated it. Terry, the kid's a wiz with compassion. MS13, clear as day. Come on. Give me the MS13 picture. Bring it up here.

We have eliminated it. Baren, Baren, Terry the Kid's a Whiz with Computers. I tell him turn off the computer, I look over the computers up and I say, how you doing? Oh, what are you doing? You mean? How'd you do that? Oh man. I looked at you, Mara Brega Garcia, and I look at his MS13 tattoos and I go, how, I see that they look like they're printed in a like three inches above his hand

somehow and I say... Terrible placement. If I was his tattoo artist, I'd say, why is it placed like this? Yeah, it's just fucking just so painful that we have the senile autocrat just isn't even, it's like, I don't even know why, I'm like, why aren't you better at this? You suck at even being an autocrat.

This is so fucking, not that even I want the better, that's where I'm at now. I'm like, even, I'm like, Jaller, you're playing in our fucking faces with how bad and senile you are This is just so offensive We're already in the like death of Stalin phase of this autocracy where like this guy is just like it behind the scenes He's just like making these people do like pig on the floor or whatever the fuck that. Oh, yeah, right Like you know, he's just back there just making people humiliate themselves floor or whatever the fuck that. Oh yeah, right. Bore on the floor. Bore on the floor shit.

Like you know he's just back there, just making people humiliate themselves. It's also- And we wonder where our cruel sense of humor comes from. Yeah. It's like that mixed with like that scene that everyone memes from the movie Downfall, where all of like the Fuhrer's generals are telling him how like-

I was thinking of that scene every day for the past three years. Yeah. That's like truly what this cabinet is like. It's like, dude, fuck, this guy's on meth and we got to keep him from having a fit. And again, so this hunt first hundred days cabinet gathering, just a total shit show. Again, straight up dear leader nonsense here. Attorney General Pam Bondi really kicks it off with a heartfelt, thank you, Mr. President, and really just sets the tone for every other cabinet official after this.

So here's Terry Bondi really again, just saying, God, President Trump, thank you. President, your first 100 days has far exceeded that of any other presidency in this country ever ever never seen anything like it. Thank you Yo, by the way, we talked on yesterday's trending about ai that like knows how to talk to you by mimicking how you speak She's like she sounds like she is like reading from a speak. Never ever, ever in the history of the whole country. Mr. President.

It's just like, yeah, Mr. President. I mean, the way you've turned this country around, I'm just flabbergasted. I'm wondering myself, how'd you do that? You know, and so she goes on then to say that Trump saved 258 million lives. Again. We got it. Yes.

Just listen to this. She goes, you hear this media, dude, just, just follow the logic, Jack. Follow the logic, baby. Pam Bondi, take it away. 3,400 kilos of fentanyl since you've been here last 100 days, which saved, are you ready for this? Which saved? 258 million lives.

Kids are dying every day because they're taking this junk laced with something else they don't know what they're taking. They think they're buying a Tylenol or an Adderall and a Xanax, and it's laced with fentanyl and they're dropping. That ramped up quickly. You got any Tylenol? A Tylenol, an Adderall, a Xanax and it's like I got a fucking splitting headache, man. You got any Tylenol? Yeah, I got that fen ty and all bro if you need that

Yeah, the 158 million fen Tylenol Wait 250 million people would be like three quarters of the population. We what a 300 million. Are we three 350? Yeah, or whatever. That's so again like Everyone you know is taking fentanyl We were all gonna be dead right now. Yeah, it weren't for this man in front of you So again this set the theme now, I want to play EPA administrator Lee Zeldin. Now, like now that tone has been set, this is full on succession shit now. And everybody like they get called on to give an update. Everyone starts off with some kind of absolute solo on Trump.

Today is a special day for many reasons. The biggest reason why we're here is that this is the 100th day of the most consequential historic first 100 days in the history of this country. Look at his hair shape. Hello, it's like the first 100 days, Mr. President. She already said that. Get on with it. Oh, okay.

Yeah, we already got that. Oh, shit. Moving along, Lee. Yo, Lee's like, they all seem like they're turning into the same person. Like Lee's album looks exactly like Sean Spicer. Like, you know? Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Like, it's just like, there's a certain person that they're all turning into. Yeah, Chris Wright, it was his opportunity too to take the stage and tell Trump again how great he is, really bringing that energy. and tell Trump again how great he is really bringing that energy. Mr. President, you ran on unleashing American energy and a hundred days have shown the tremendous impacts that can arise from the unleashing you have enabled. I'll give you two highlights.

The oil, gasoline, and diesel prices are the lowest they've been in years. Also, there's a headline today about how his policies are actually causing a lot of uncertainty for fossil fuels right now that they're even like, fuck, what are we supposed to do? So yeah, I there there are endless clips JD Vance had a moment, Doug Burgum had a moment there all they all were just having to outdo each other and like be this thing where it's like, this is this is amazing. So, I mean, again, this is just showing us that these people are basically like

Truman showing Trump, like in real time and creating this like alternate reality for him to operate in. And I'm sure this will lead to the most rational decision making we've ever seen when people are telling you you're infallible and absolutely perfect. Like it's the thing with the nine nothing Supreme Court decision that we talked about yesterday that at first he was like, nine nothing Supreme Court decision. Yeah, that one went for us, right?

And everyone thought he was just being like an asshole. And it turns out they just told him, he was like, that's not what my people told me. They told me that the nine oh went for us. It was very good for us. Like he's just not getting the real information. It's wild. Again, this is like what I was saying.

I liken it to your parents are out of town and your really old grandpa's watching you. And you know you can get him to let you do wild shit if you just give enough of a quasi-realistic explanation. He's like, yeah, go ahead. I can play with fire. But there's stuff like even he made that supposed joke about being Pope, and then Lindsey Graham's like,

oh, you'd make a great Pope, right? Like that. Mm-hmm. Right. The idea of someone in the complex. I think you would'd make a great pope, right? Like, that's the idea of like someone. Is that something you would actually make a great pope? Yeah. Actually, that's a very good point, Lindsey.

I mean, get them on the phone. Get the Vatican on the phone. No, but again, like it's probably it will turn into something where Trump could even be being flippant and then someone's going to take it seriously. I thought you wanted us to bring an entire nuclear strike fleet off the coast of Taiwan.

No, I, oh, sorry. I didn't, uh, uh, yeah, this is just, again, I don't know where this leads, but it's really indicative of like a lot of these, how these other interests have really captured the white house and now know how to manipulate and get whatever they want done. Again, not to absolve Trump of any responsibility here, but this is how this White House is moving. Like people are able to get ideas into his head, get him to do it and then tell him

it's OK. And then he defends it. And and for him, like, I'm sure a lot of this, many of this stuff aligns with his worldview. But it's just freaky when you just see how aggressive these people like how much how sycophantic? This if that's even a word the the cabinet of sycophants do their dance. Thank you That's my poem for the day damn fucking bars Make them dance Are you journalists is honest. I'm a sicko fan. There you go.

That is why. Like it does seem to have stepped up a new level. Like I don't know. I just... Having that meeting in a packed room, in front of TV cameras, and the whole premise of the meeting just seems to be,

I go around and I point to you and you glaze me for three minutes in a row. And then I point to another person and they do the same thing, but from their department, let's go. Yeah. Yeah, man. So that's the state of things right now as we continue to see all kinds of nonsense come out of the White House. But I think it's being able to see how it all comes together is just instructive, or at least helps us really see how everything is really operating there.

Have we gotten any other reporting that's like, these people are fucking terrified behind the scenes? Probably not, right? Like nobody's being given access. Like they have to, in reality, be at, be in that position where they're like, they're thinking going into every day is like, how do we keep this lunatic on the rails? And, you know, that's been the reporting for every person who's worked with him from the beginning, you know, in the first administration.

I'm just wondering like what, if there's any honesty going on at all about that within this administration. I mean, I, I, I, I think, in the first administration. I'm just wondering like what, if there's any honesty going on at all about that within this administration. I mean, I think the only thing that really got Trump to come around on like tariffs and even not that even came around, but at least out like softened the rhetoric was when he saw the bond market like taking a shit. And that's when he was like, oh, I know about that. And clearly something got to him there, but you know, I think if enough people tell him the same thing, he'll probably believe it. And that's seems to be the case.

I will say we doubt we now have two administrations in a row with like elderly people who people who the people around them just couldn't tell them shit. Yeah. Just could not tell Joe Biden fucking anything. He was like, you know, whether it be Gaza or whether it be you're too fucking old and people don't like you. Like he, that was news to him when it finally came out. He was like, and he still thinks like it was a conspiracy to like take him down.

No, it was a conspiracy to keep you in fam. Yeah. This is a, like, I think we have plenty of evidence that maybe the president, that bad institution that we need to take another look at. Yeah. Well, or at least term limits. We'll get to that in a little bit. Yeah. Maybe a 23rd year.

So we'll take a look at that. Let's take a quick break, and then we'll come back and look where we got some of our ideas about the presidency. They're all super realistic and good. We'll be're back. We're back. And there's a slight uptick in one of the all-time great movie genres, the presidential action movie. I don't know if you guys are fans of this. For whatever reason, I really did not fuck with like these movies.

Not that it's just be like, yo, I'm like, I was, I was seeing a four D. I just, I just didn't get it. Like air. I remember when air force one came out all like so many of my friends were like, the fucking air force one off my plane. Yeah. And for me, I was like, yo, Harrison Ford moves. So like, like a fragile old guy.

I'm like, y'all didn't see Patriot Games and clear and present danger, bro. He's not built for action like that. Like I get what he's doing, but yeah. But look, not going to say I don't watch him, but not for me. My favorite, I think movie president Bill Pullman. You know, yeah, he was the one. So it's interesting to like think about movie presidents and how they overlap. And like what? Just again, like to JM's point,

our writer, JM was like, think about this if it was any other country. That country was making a movie about their president, just beating the shit out of all the bad guys. It's hilarious propaganda when you take a step back. But because we're inside of the context of American propaganda, people are just like, Harrison, I would, I'd elect Harrison for my president. The Rock should run for president.

Dude, imagine Margaret Thatcher beating the fuck out of the Argentinians during the Falklands war, dude. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. That would have done it. Huge fuckers. Falk around and find out would be the name of that movie, I think. Earlier this month, Amazon Prime released G20, which is essentially diehard, but with the G20 summit instead of an office Christmas party, it started Viola Davis as the US president,

who's like a cross between John McClain and Kamala Harris. Oh, so she's brat. She's brat. Okay. But she's also hung over and had nothing to shit. And wearing a tank top, like a ripped bloody tank top It's definitely like one where they were like we think we know which way the elections gonna go She's a tank top on the poster

Wow, oh, they're really John McClain in this shit Cuz you'll never see a president in a fucking tank top like even though like I mean, I was like Obama whooping You got you for a tan, tan tech top. Right. Yeah, but it was too tan. Yeah. She even like has a conversation with the bad guy who is a bearded, who like has a beard and like she's talking to him on a walkie talkie throughout just like diehard.

That's it. It is legit. Just like what if diehard was at the G 20 summit? Wow. Oh, and it's Anthony star from the boys. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't watch the boys, but he looks. Oh really? Yeah. Yeah. He's the, he's the main. Too hanging out too busy hanging out with the boys. Watch the boys. He's Homelander on the main. Too hanging out, too busy hanging out with the boys. Watch the boys.

You know, he's a homelander on the boys. Yeah. So this one was like, we're putting our chips down on Kamala. She's going to win. This movie is going to be about a right wing crypto terrorist who's trying to like crash the global economy to help Bitcoin or some shit that's actually in the movie. Elon Musk.

That's on the movie's poster. Help Bitcoin or some shit. I don't know. Help Bitcoin or some shit. And then Prime is also releasing Heads of State, which will star John Cena as an action star turned president. So like Arnold Schwarzenegger, if he was born in America, would have probably already been our president by now who like gets thrown into a real life emergency along with British prime minister Idris Elba.

I love that. They're really swinging for the fences of that one. It's like, dude, we also need like a hot prime minister also to really make this get Idris Elba, get him in. Yeah, it seems like it's like a Reagan Schwarzenegger mashup and he's clearly a Republican because he has like a giant red tie the whole time, which perfect timing Amazon prime on this one. That's what everybody wants to see. You think they like Republican president. the whole time, which perfect timing Amazon Prime on this one.

That's what everybody wants to see. It's a cool Republican president. You think he was seen as supposed to be a Democrat and then Trump won and then Jeff Bezos had him color correct the tie to be like Trump, just so they didn't get any smoke? He's like, yeah, he was actually inspired by you because you're exactly like John Cena, dude, same hairline and everything. Just played by George Clooney. And then they just replaced him with John Cena using AI.

But don't you think like, I mean, for as much as like this is US propaganda for like, like, it's sort of, I don't know who says someone in middle America or something. Like this type of movie is the type of movie that could influence Trump, right? Like you could actually be making propaganda for one if you like, if you set this thing and then you like put in an argument about like, you know, why, why you shouldn't put hike tariffs or whatever. Whoa, whoa, don't don't give his cabinet ideas now. You'd actually need to encode all of

the messaging that you wanted into the fight scenes because as we know, people have talked about his cinema, like what he does with movies and he actually has you cut out all the in-between parts of Van Damme movies. It's just wall-to-wall, the fight parts. Yeah, that's a real story. But like he had somebody edit all of Van Damme's movies just so it was just the fighting because there's too much story, I guess, in Van Damme movies.

It'd just be funny. Someone just show him, just go on YouTube and look up Van Damme best fight scenes. Right. Show him. He doesn't know. He would need some sort of computer whiz to do that for him. Wait a second. How'd you do that? But yeah, I don't know.

So I think this hit its peak in the 90s when all the examples that we've been talking about, Bill Pullman was obviously, you know, gives a pretty rousing speech about a independence day on aliens. Yeah. Independence day in independence day as independence day in which he cut the speech comes to the climax with the titular words, independence day. But he actually, Bill Pullman accused George W. Bush of copying his Independence Day character

by cosplaying as a fighter pilot right before he gave his mission accomplished speech, which probably, right? I mean, what we know of Washington, they pay attention to movie iconography and they know the power of it. Yeah. Also just leaning into like, he's like, and yeah, George Bush is kind of in the military, depending on which way you look at it.

It all looks great. But yeah, so Air Force One is the big one. It's like the protagonist of the movie is the president. He is an action hero. He somehow becomes the underdog, even though he's the president. The movie literally includes scenes in which the hijacker villain reveals that the president keeps murdering civilians with smart bombs. Yep.

And the president is, we're just like, yeah, but he's, I don't know. But that's the president. I'd have a beer with Harrison Ford. You know? Oh, yeah. It's a very pre-9's why I'd have a beer with Harrison Ford, you know, yeah Yeah, very I it's a very pre 9-eleven mentality where it's like, I mean if we're dropping bombs It's cuz it's on bad people, right? That's that's all I that's that's the extent of my foreign policy knowledge as an American if we drop bombs It's for a good fucking reason. Okay, right and they deserved it probably

Yeah, I mean it is funny that see that this goes over everyone's heads. Like, dude, why is he complaining about smart bombs? Kick his ass, President Harrison Ford. Yeah, he's basically complaining about George W. Bush doctrine-like policies even and is confronted by the consequence of that and Obama, you know, but he's a cool guy who beats people up. So we're on board.

And then presidents themselves have like, in addition to W trying to pull, pull out the the flight suit. Yeah. I was in the air national guard. Yeah. I was in the air national guard. Bush and Trump both used the movie's score at events. The like air force one score. I wonder if he likes air force one enough that like, we could all run a collective Psyop on it, like release the director's cut of air force one to get to him.

Like, I think they should. And it's the most engineered thing to fuck with Trump's brain that we've ever seen. She'd be like, wow, I'm Gary Oldman. Trump has himself suggested he's a big fan of Air Force One and loves Harrison Ford because he stood up for America. Harrison Ford had to be like that. That was a movie. Then Jamie Foxx played an action hero Obama in White House Down.

Are you guys White House Down or just Down franchise fans? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Down for it all. Down for it all, Jay Butler. Well, wait. Oh yeah. White House Down. What were the other ones? What were the other downs? Or is that part of Olympus has fallen?

Olympus has fallen, White House Down. No, there's the has fallen. Yeah, I think White House down is like when we thought White House down was Dante's piece. That was Channing Tatum. Wow. OK. You know, no idea.

Those are different movies. Well, what are the two magician films that came out at the same time? It's like that kind of thing. Presidious and the illusionist. Yeah, exactly. Where it's like is Olympus is fun or a White House down describing kind of the same thing That's crazy. Yeah, and then I mean they even made a JFK Action movie about his like World War two

Heroics while he was in office. There we go. So it was like made an action movie starring the president while he was the president. PT-109 and it came out like a month before he was assassinated. Oh, man. It was crazy. That's why I'm glad they came up with Rotten Tomatoes in the fan meter. So if you have more constructive ways

of voicing your displeasure about a film. You think that's what went down? Could be. Yeah. I don't have anyone look. I know you're into the chair. I mean, have you thought about that? Have we considered that?

Yeah. Have you considered that? We just saw that movie and was like, boom. Boom. Not a fan. You know what? I'm going to do something about it. He had some rotten tomatoes next to him and a rifle. But you know, had you heard about that Jackie Kennedy movie that she made, that home movie of Kennedy being a spy?

It's like she directed it at their house and it's just a little home movie, but he's play acting being a spy. No. Wow. It's like the home action movie, I guess. Wow. There, I am fascinated by that. Wait, now I'm looking that up.

It is the one president that I feel like does have a backstory that is like, he did something that's straight up in action, like what he did in World War II was crazy. He staged his own murder in the amateur spy movie? Isn't that crazy? I think it was like a month before or something. Yeah. There was all sorts of shit. I mean, the day. And it was like, I think it was like a month before or something. Yeah. There was all sorts of shit. I mean, the day of he was like, look, if somebody look, ah, Jackie, if somebody

wants to shoot me from a hotel balcony, that like, it's going to happen. Like he was like, he knew what, what could happen. It was just like, huh? You know, I mean, whatever. Like we don't really love this for, for you right now. That's like open top driving through a city that, uh, is like wildly blood thirsty for you, like they took out a full page ad calling you like an enemy of the people and he was like, ah, you know, what, what are you going to do?

Am I right? Anyways, it's all about art. It's all about the art. That's right. Then the Secret Service were too hungover to argue with them. So they're just like, all right, man, let's fucking go, whatever. Anyways, can't wait to see these new movies. So I know who to vote for next time.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm voting for Viola Davis. Man, Gash, what a pleasure having you back on the show. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I'm on Instagram at mhatikular. And you can listen to Part-Time Genius weekly at iHeart. Yeah. When is the new show about Living Forever coming out?

Because I do plan on living forever, so that's going to actually be helpful for me. Yeah. It's supposed to be fall of next year. So we'll see. Hell yeah. Of next year. I guess I'll stop smoking cigarettes until then. Yeah.

Do they have anything? Did they say anything about cigarettes? Do you guys need cigarettes? It's back. I'm telling you, it's back. Beyonce brought smoking back. I'm telling you, the Cowboy Carter tour, I smoked a cigarette after. There you go.

You need to after Beyonce show. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yeah. There's a little phone game called 368 Chickens. It's super addictive and you're just trying to line up chickens. Every time you line them up, it takes off two chickens or three chickens of a kind or whatever. It's hard to beat, but once you beat it and you freed all the chickens,

it locks you out of the game and you can never play it again. I just think that is amazing. That's amazing. Wow. It's been fun. So it's super addictive for a very short period. Yeah. That's so wild. Miles, where can people find you as their work of media

you've been enjoying? Find me on all the places that have ad symbols at Miles of Gray and find Jack and I, the basketball podcast, Miles and Jack, I'm at Boosty's. You can find us or find me also talking 90 day fiance on 420 day fiance. Obviously on the heels of the hundred men versus gorilla thing naturally at just ky-1018 posted what if

a hundred men saw a therapist instead Uh... That's great. It's amazing. Spent way too much time hypothesizing on how to defeat the gorilla. Kadez, I'm like, how you doing, man? You okay? You okay? You all right, man? Nah, man, we need like an Ocean's 100, basically.

I will say, that conversation completely hijacked the episode yesterday. I realized, like, this show could be mostly about that debate for a couple months. In a way that people couldn't believe. It's like, dude, every day they debate the 100 men versus gorilla thing. Tweet I've been enjoying at a son of Ali tweeted, there should be a separate TSA line for people who are apparently experiencing their first day on earth. Shoes on their hands. for people who are apparently experiencing their first day on earth. Just... Shoes on their hands. I don't know.

Do I? I'm wearing my laptop as a hat. Trying to crawl into the X-ray machine onto the belt. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on blue sky at Jack OB the number one. You can find us on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Blue Sky at Jack Obey, the number one. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

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