The Daily Zeitgeist - Prestige Casting: Best and Worst TV Of The Year 2022

Episode Date: December 27, 2022

In this holiday special, Jack and Miles are joined by super producer Anna Hossnieh to talk the best and worst of television in the year 2022. And of course a list of prestige casting choices by Streaming Corner's own Anna Hossnieh. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Humble. Humble. I am Jack. That over there is Miles. And we are thrilled to be joined by super producer Anna Hosnier. Super producer being scammed by a fake publisher of Clearinghouse.

I like what they text you. You got second place. No, it wasn't a text. It was, you know, how they like, can your voicemail will like transcribe it. Oh, that's just what it says.

Congratulations. Congratulations. You are the second place winner here at Publishers Clearinghouse. Feel free to call Mr. Donald Wagner, the price patrol manager at number. I repeat at number.

This is a legitimate notification notifying that you are a winner. Thank you and have a marvelous day. Was the bot like, congratulate. Sorry, excuse me. Yeah, I don't know. Congratulations. Doubled up on the congratulations. It's like, sorry, I didn't sound human enough for you.

It's like, sorry, I didn't sound human enough for you. Anyways, this episode in honor of you and your takes on streaming is called That's Prestige Casting. How'd I do? Yeah, great, great. Though I want to make it clear I didn't name this episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. In honor of you, I said.

Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah, right. But just to be clear, like, i never like approved or signed yeah why is that important to you by the way i just want to make it very clear that like in case someone's like why did she call it that i just like i didn't call it that that's really bad for her brand dude they let her that's what she wants it to be what would you what would you name it let's just let's rearrange it let's put you what what should it be called? It would be called A Year in Prestige Casting.

Casting. Casting. And that is intentional. Hard age. Hard age. A Year in Prestige Casting. 2022 Television Nominations. Movies Didn't Matter.

There you go. Yeah, so we were. Movies Didn't Matter. A moment ago, before, like, as we were starting this, this was going to be both TV and movies. And then you informed us as we're ramping up to start recording that you don't give a fuck about movies, period. No, I just don't think I watched a single movie this year where I was like, well, gosh, darn. OK, so we'll have a separate year end movies. I mean, to be fair be fair jack you were writing down

older movies that you had seen this year to also talk about so i think we were kind of lacking in that department but i i like the idea of maybe having a segment where we all share like an old movie we saw too and be like yo that shit was kind of that shit goes yeah it was actually a great segment but no that's fine uh that's Whatever you guys. You know that urge you have to delete someone else's work in a Google Doc? Yeah, yeah. I noticed you did it to me a couple of times. Yeah, you kept doing Command A in the Google Doc. I'm like, somebody selected all a bunch.

No. Old movies hold up better than old TV shows. I'm fine with streaming content. Streaming content is great, but I like streaming TV shows, prestige TV, but I'm more of the movie side of things because I think it's more efficient, but we can get into that another time. Anna, I'm just going to let, I'm going to turn it over to you. 2022. Well, so television in 2022, I mean, I just think television in general has become such a powerhouse medium. Okay.

No one wants to talk about movies anymore. Like, have you even seen Black Adam? Like, no, none of us have seen Black Adam. Yeah. It's like Shazam. I don't even know if that was a real movie at this point. But did you like, we all know about it. We all know the rocks in it.

Right. Has anyone even remotely lifted a finger to try and watch that film? Millions of people. Technically millions. Yeah. Nobody I know. Nobody we care about. There's something.

No, I don't. You think it's a conspiracy? I don't think it's a conspiracy. Like, I don't even, I have not even heard reviews about the film. Right. But you were kind of saying this about covid in the early part of the pandemic too you're like have y'all seen what's happening at the hospital right if not with your eyes yeah i went and found my friend in the icu and wheeled

him out and he died of something different did you see one movie this year uh did you see everything everywhere all at once did you see oh yes i saw that did that come out this year yeah i know right yes that's the only good movie that came out this year okay all right that was my movie of the year but okay all right just wrap that up on my write-up that you shit all over and said you just wanted to delete i said it was the movie i didn't read all your notes we'll all your notes yeah sometimes when it gets a little too like jack thought i stop reading because i'm like this guy is like trying to tie a movie that he saw 30 years ago to a trend that's happening 15 minutes from now and i can't do it i know can't keep up you know you always talk about prestige casting and

you always shout out the best performances and that's always like when it's not always the best performance or the most meaningful the ones that leave you leave an impact you know you know there is no true definition to prestige casting it's just in the eye of anna it's just what i decide is prestige or not okay so apologies for trying to even define that so people could follow along. It's the same reason why the title That's Prestige Casting 2022 on TV was fucking terrible. Here's my thing. There's no right way to do anything.

For instance, casting was a better way of pronouncing casting in that title. Casting. It's very Sean Connery. It's very Bane. It's very Bane. It's very Bane. So who would you...

If you're handing out statues, who's the first statue you want to give out? Statutes? I'm handing out statues. Statutes or articles. First, I want to talk about the rehearsal. A very strong contender in this year's television prestige casting realm realm that was weirdly

my best show of the year on the notes that i sent to you at the beginning that you didn't read no i saw that one okay if you're i saw that one that's fine um the rehearsal so and this is kind of like it's a bit more the casting of ang and Robin. Now, was that really casting or was it just like coincidental sort of like, you know, energy numbers? Yeah, right. But it is it is the thing that he's so good at is like finding the strangest, most compelling, most watchable human beings that are real people and just getting them on camera. And like cheap chick in the city.

You know, like these people who he is able to source out of thin air, it almost feels like. Yeah. So they're like on another level of prestige casting. But I think the most important

casting decision done in the rehearsal is Teenage Adam, Joshua James Bernard. Wow. That's his full name? important casting decision done in the rehearsal is teenage adam joshua james bernard wow that's his full name yes i looked at his imdb this is the one who had the tiktok od and also said you're disaster my guy disaster my guy genius casting that kid has a bright future in front of him. Joshua, I cannot wait to see you in like a, you know, a 24. Yeah. Yeah. Because this just lifted your career off.

The fact that he improvised the line, you're a fucking disaster. It's like iconic in the zeitgeist. Like that portrayed an overdose. Right. What is happening? I do this for a living and I don't improvise more than like two or three iconic zeitgeist defining catchphrases

a year, you know? Wow. Do you know his parents are soap opera people? Like his dad is on General Hospital? I mean, it's clear because his acting is incredible. There's clearly General Hospital heritage there. Well, there's clearly general hospital heritage there.

Well, there's a certain drama level that you have to hit in these soap operas. So of all those people, Joshua James Bernard with it. Are we going to give one to each person in each show or just saying they're in the running and then at the end you will give someone prestige? There's OK. There's no limit to prestige cast okay master p so what uh what would we call joshua james bernard category of the prestige casting award i mean like prestige newcomer award okay because he's real he brought he came in hot what did what did he say when as soon as nathan gave him one note like i've been gone for 10 years yeah yeah he came in he goes what does he say look who decided to show up literally he got one note and his entire personality changed in a

seconds he got a note from nathan beley hey man i think there's an edit there but yeah no nathan basically walked outside and then walked right back in. And he was like, well, well, well. And then he walked out and slammed the door to his room. Yeah. What do you mean? Great teenager energy. I don't know where he sourced it from.

It was wild because he was like, yeah, I kind of come from a good household, but I have some friends whose parents are assholes. Yeah. And what are they like i'll talk to them yeah um stuff anyway great i think the best performance i saw anywhere this year was the woman who like came in and was playing angela in the later episodes yeah and was just like getting to this uncomfortable emotional core again it's not like pure acting because they're improvising it as they go.

And yeah, that was some of the best TV. Yeah, when she came for Nathan, I was like, well, this is for you. And like started yelling. And you could tell Nathan's like, oh boy, created a monster. Anyway, shout out to that actor because she's also in This Fool.

Yeah. Yeah. Playing Chris Estrada's older sister, I believe. And another mention, perhaps, for the prestige casting award. This Fool. Does This Fool get any prestige casting shout outs? Honestly, like the most legendary. Oh, by the way, that woman's name was Anna LaMadrid, who played fake Angela and also was in This Fool.

Yeah. Okay. That was actually one of the more impressive performances as like an actor trying to play someone else, I would say. Whereas Joshua James Bernard just gave the energy that we had all been waiting for as, you know, viewers. By the end of that episode, we were all trying to play Joshua James Bernard in our lives. I think we actually were. We kept saying the same lines to each other. You're a disaster, my guy.

Yeah. And see, I'm bringing my own parental issues into that performance. You know what I mean? So I hope to one day also receive a prestige casting award, but that, you know, I'm not trying to lobby. I will say before we go to break that the rehearsal was, like, I thought far and above any, like I needed something extra from shows this year like the

prestige tv i had a persistent problem but we can like talk about it but like the rehearsal just like creating a whole new world don't you dare close your eyes no just like a whole new like i i don't know like type of documentary slash real slash you know performances and improvised performances and shit was just like next level probably the best thing i saw on tv or in movie theaters it was amazing yeah i mean i definitely was screaming audibly because i could not believe where there's like the turns the show was taking and i think it was the honesty too like especially with that finale where they kind of just turned the focus on to like what it means meant to make the show where you're having people pretend like it's with such depth although you know the people who can't handle that kind of

comedy i feel like this was the worst like their biggest nightmare because like i know people who like can't watch curb your enthusiasm like it's i get so uncomfortable when like larry david does that and like they would talk about this like i couldn't do it i couldn't do it i couldn't do it yeah yeah well for me i'm like go further exactly more weight uh all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back hey i'm gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career,

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And on a... Can I do a power round? Power round. There's like so many. Yeah, yeah.

But I'm going to stop you if I have something, because I've seen like 10% of the things you've seen. So I'm just going to stop you if I have something to say. I also just really quickly want to say there was so much also really good television that I just kind of refused to watch because it just felt like not my vibe. Yeah. There's so much good. Oh, this is my point.

A lot of stuff gets ignored. There's too much good TV for like, I didn't even watch season four of barry what was it season five season four the final season this one whatever the one just that just happened was i didn't even start that shit i still got the finale to watch yeah okay i've watched the finale like three times because i keep forgetting if i watched it or not is that truly absurd everyone on like the internet was like it's so dark and i was like right, I'll put a pin in that. It's really not that dark. It's relative, I think, to people.

But knowing that you said it's not that dark, I would be like, all right, it's probably not that dark. Because I feel like we have similar darkness. Am I not okay that you just said it's relative? No, no, I'm saying we have similar thresholds for that. So I'm like, okay. Because there are other times I think we were both more devastated in the rehearsal by shit than like something actually like graphic in like another show so yeah i feel like we're on the same page like my other favorite thing was also not like quote unquote prestige tv but we will we'll get to it i'm sure so what's the power around anna we

okay you're gonna you're gonna name off some quotables? Severance, John Turturro. Oh, my God. Legend. Adam Scott was really good in Severance, too. I remember the first thing I saw of him was Step Brothers and me shoehorning in a movie I saw a long time ago. But I hadn't felt like he had fully gone all the way in on a role as much as he did in Step Brothers. And then he was just really, I don't know, that was acting. It was not prestige casting because that's only defined by Anna Hosnier, but it was acting for sure.

Yeah. I will say he's not prestige casting in Severance. He's definitely prestige casting in Step Brothers. Okay, good. I just wanted to clarify that because it's not clear to everybody. It's clear to me, but I want them to hear you say it. The offer. Matthew Good as Robert Evans.

Incredible work. The accent. Hello. I mean, what are we doing? All right. I love it. Let's do this okay all right the godfather it is all right someone give me a cigarette like it was absurd that's what i'm more likely to watch next than like one of the shows that everyone's like better call saul this season was amazing

and i've like watched the past betters call saul but this one is like fun, bad, weird, and like that's kind of I don't know. There's just like so much good TV. There's so much good TV. Thanks to me, Robert Evans. Give me a cigarette, kid. I party. American Gigolo slash We Own This City

John Bernthal. Look, yes, ACAB refers to John Bernthal because he loves to play cops a little too much for me you know my taste seems to really really get into it but what about as a sex worker though true yes he does play sex worker which kind of redeemed him in my eyes

so yes all cops are Bernthal shut up Brian ACAB all cops are Bernthal all cops are Bernthal let me tell you are they not don't they feel like they ran into this guy like in the nypd and we're like i don't know he's got charisma should we cast him yeah right now he's like a huge actor wait is his podcast like pro cop okay well his podcast is called real ones and the description tells you everything you need to know.

Hold on, let me pull it up. First of all, if you type Real Ones, it comes immediately with Jon Bernthal. It's a weekly podcast. It gives the microphone to some of the most interesting, authentic people living on the front lines of the big issues of our time. Oh. From cops to gang members, soldiers and doctors, activists and first responders, you're going to hear from people who aren't pushing any agenda other than honest

open dialogue. Is he like trying to have a CNN show? I don't know, but all his guests are like Marines, so I don't know. Or Shia LaBeouf. He had Shia LaBeouf on? I'm looking on YouTube. It says

Shia LaBeouf on Real Ones with YouTube it says Shia LaBeouf on real ones with Jon Bernthal from August 31st of this year it's like Shia LaBeouf you know a marine Lena Dunham and Jair Bolsonaro no are you fucking kidding

oh my god oh my god that's our go to joke literally shit my pants Real ones But it's you know like retired special agent Jay Dobbin spent two years undercover With the Hells Angels

It's like okay Yeah he kind of looks like what his interests are I think it was good No surprises there What was it like when you no scoped that Iraqi soldier That shit was just like when you no-scoped that Iraqi soldier? Yeah. Just like one shot.

No agenda here. 360 no-scope, bro. There's definitely an agenda. And I'm pretty sure his brother is married to Sheryl Sandberg. Anyway. So, let's go on. ACAB. Is that really? Yes.

Wow. Sheryl Sandberg's husband is Jon Bernthal's brother. He's connected to Sheryl Sandberg, which is all you need to know. Husband, Dave. Wow. Is it? I got that right, right? Oh, wait.

No, she had a husband that died. She had her husband die. Partner is Tom Bernthal. Jesus Christ. Partner is Tom Bernthal. Partner. So maybe they're just engaged or dating right right right

because she was like like her origin story with her husband dying on the treadmill was like a big deal what oh that's what happened he had a

I know he passed away five years ago I didn't know what happened yeah fell on a treadmill and hit his head oh god that's okay that's really dark I'm sorry to have had

a burst out laugh and just like that a super producer should we just all be, a super producer. Should we just all be replaced by super producer Brian? He just is on the show. And just like that. Was that show this year? Oh, yeah.

Wasn't it this year? Kind of impossible to say, actually. Damn, time is fucking me up. Okay, yeah, that was also this year. He was getting American Gigolo, though, because I remember we were going wild for the trailer. We're like, yo, this shit looks wild.

Did it? Did it pay off on the trailer? And look, the scenes where he was like fucking and body paid off. The rest was kind of stressful because you had like Rosie O'Donnell

like, I'm a cop. I'm going to find out who did this. this like just kind of like showing up everywhere right and then like i don't know i don't know if you guys knew this but like sex trafficking is not cool but it hit some topics that i was like i don't love this and that that show changed your opinion on that right you were always before you're always pimping and stuff you always talked about you know pimping ain't easy and it's all about that pimp life yeah and you're realizing now a little little grim little little wait i'm sorry did you say pimp life like is this i mean in in the you're saying so the show is also like kind of a sober examination

of everything it's because the trailer felt like this guy's got a wavy shirt on his six pack and you're like okay this seems salacious it was like oh nice car he's fucking full head of hair and you're like wow cool and then you're like oh that's right right if we're gonna play this real here real quick i want you guys to look at the the logo of real ones with john bernthal just like really just take it that he chose that as the cover of his podcast i texted it to you guys so also if you're listening just go look google real ones with john bernthal and you he's got a cocked eyebrow with a handlebar mustache he's like like so but it's either i'm completely i think whatever someone is saying to me is bullshit or it's the

most interesting thing he's ever heard and then his fitted on the back like he has it backwards says fresh air on the headband i don't know if he's like a terry gross fan or something. I don't know. Is that a fitted? It looks like a beret. Or is it a Kangol? It's the Newsy cap. Oh, is it a Kangol? Wow. This is taking up too much of this part.

I like the idea, though, too, that he hosts this show in an oversized, black, backwards-fitted hat, too, and he's like, yeah, bro, I hear you on that. Yeah, that's what my sister-in-law, Cheryl, said that, too. It's like yeah bro I hear you on that yeah that's what you know my sister-in-law Cheryl said that too you know like it's just this too much what else we got in this power round

all cops are burnt out sorry we're moving forward Pam and Tommy Lily James and Sebastian Stan oh my god they transformed into those roles. I didn't see it.

What? I didn't see it. That's why I just need your energy to then say, okay, now I have to watch this. And my friend worked on it too. I did not, you know,

should have, should have paid attention to that one. American Crime Story, The Clinch. No, don't read my shit. I can't remember what it's called. This is our third podcast of the day.

I'm very unprofessional. Damn it, maybe type in American Clinton Story. What does that say? That'll get you there, I'm sure. All right, Pam and Tommy, I did hear really good things. Lily James from Baby Driver movie I saw yeah she was

incredible like genuinely I was like wah wah wee wah and then Sebastian Stan as Tommy Lee I kept forgetting it was Sebastian Stan which I understand that's kind of the premise of acting but like he was disappearing into that role in a way where I was like dude fuck this guy

he was like nailing the weird drunk, mumble, deep voice Tommy Lee. Yeah. Kind of talking like that? Well, no. That's like latter day Tommy Lee. I don't know what this...

Was that what? I don't know. Was that Tommy Lee or Rocky? I think you're talking about Rocky. Oh, yeah. Oh, hey, Trey! He's the guy who played Bucky Barnes in the Marvel movies. And not a great

casting. I'd say that is non-prestige casting. Him as Bucky Barnes? Is that Bucky? Yeah. Whatever that guy's name is. I remember just falling asleep anytime he was on

camera. He's a compelling actor. He is a compelling actor. Great work. Yellow Jackets, Christina Ricci and Juliette Lewis. Team up the 90s to eat you. Yes. That was one

that I was like, oh, I can't believe that was this year. There was so much TV. Shout out to Jack for letting me use that Showtime login. Showtime. It is a shared login, Miles. That's a joint login. Oh, I didn't even know. You and me. i got it specifically

so we could watch jesus and barrow and then uh you guys have a joint login no he has one that he i didn't even know about till yellow jackets came out because anna you were like yellow jackets is so good i'm like what channel is it on and you're like showtime like well i can't watch it what i text like i bought it and texted you the login. I thought it was Jesus Amaro, but maybe it was Yellow Jackets. You were already watching it. Why would you need to be watching it? Yeah, but why am I not allowed to have a joint login with anyone?

You can. Maybe we can. Maybe let's find a streaming service. What's a new one? What's a new one we like? What else? What else? This is good. That's how I cry.

Alright, moving forward. Single drunk female, Madison Shepard as the parole officer. Oh my God. Madison Shepard, former guest of Daily Zeitgeist. Incredible casting as the main character in Single Drunk

Female's parole officer. Not parole. What is it? It's the other one. Probation? Probation seems hardcore. Probation officer. Probation officer. Okay. Hilarious. She's so funny. It's almost like they saw Madison and were like, cast her because she's so good

in that role. She steals every scene. She's just like just that probation officer who's just like just trying to do their job right like has their own business going on and you're like looking at a mess in progress and they're like yeah right but she's like you know got shit to do and not yeah i don't know either way i really recommend single drunk female on uh hulu i believe it is if you guys haven't seen it's actually a really fun show about a woman getting sober in Boston. So it's really fucking funny.

All her friends are like the worst mass holes you've ever met. And she's just trying to get sober around them. It's like everything is just like, Oh, did I fuck you once? Like, yeah, we fucked in the bar right there or in the bathroom right there.

Like every character is the worst person you've ever come across. And it's so well done. I really recommend it. Brings back joy in the half hour sort of comedy space that we are, in my opinion, kind of lacking outside of like Abbott. Okay, I love that for you, Matt Rogers. I mean, his character and I love that for you matt rogers i mean his character and i love that for

you he steals the show i gotta say and i don't just say that because i work with him and for him and i need his respect but also because uh that scene where he uh buys the really fancy handbag and he's in the mirror talking to himself and he just starts going the discourse is toxic i don't even know what you're talking about but i just knew that whatever you just described and that made me laugh wait what is this show about hold it's it's um vanessa bayer working at one of those sort of uh qvc type places oh so they all work at like a qvc like one of those big ones where they like sell random products and they're always being like, and I love this bracelet because, you know,

so blah, blah, blah, blah, and they're just like nonsense and everyone buys stuff. And Jennifer Lewis is also on that show too, right? Yes, Jennifer Lewis is also great in it. And then, yeah, Matt Rogers buys himself a really fancy handbag and is looking in a mirror pretending to talk to people and just keeps being like while holding the bag being like the discourse is toxic over and over again.

It's so funny because it's also so Matt. It's just too good. So anyway, yeah, Matt Rogers. Okay. That's also Showtime, right? Showtime. We love Showtime. I mean, obviously you two love it more because you have a joint login.

I haven't even seen it. I'm really behind. You have no excuse with your joint login. I know. What's yours? I'm a Hulu add-on type. I'm a Hulu add-on. I'm but a Hulu add-on.

I'm just adding hubs in my Hulu. What's next? Stars for me? Who adds stars on please no offense no offense no offense please don't come all right reservation dogs yep zon mclernand yeah i'm sorry if i'm saying that wrong the guy who plays the cop the reservation cop yeah that guy is a goddamn scene stealer zon you are incredible at what you do. You're so good. He's a listener, though. You can address him. He's a listener. Zahn, I love you. That's me kissing you.

You are so incredible. The scene that they, in the most recent season, they give him his own episode where him and Kirk Fox go on, like, a drug trip together in an episode, and it's an incredible, like, team-up of those two, Zahn and Kirk, and I just gotta say

I was so glad they finally gave him his own episode because he's he's a standout yeah i have no excuse that that's the that's the biggest casualty to them making way too much good tv this year is that i haven't watched reservation dog season two like i i honestly should be arrested i'm gonna turn myself into the police after this episode nah you don't have to they don't know what they're doing be arrested i'm gonna turn myself into the police after this episode nah you don't have to they don't know what they're doing yeah what are you gonna go to john bernthal's house come on man he's too busy right now he's like yeah there's no agendas here hey let me turn my cap around jack what do you think about

toxic masculinity and what do the what do females really mean when they say that okay first of all i know we haven't listened to the show but that's 90 i can already imagine you guys really have to go look at real ones uh the logo is the logo art is one of the wildest things like wildest decisions any human has ever made about a picture. He has like Elon hitting a blunt face. Yeah. Just that like wild cocked eyebrow. I'm like, okay, sir, I can't take this seriously. Do we think he's been on?

Joe Rogan? Joe Rogan, let's see. He must have. I can't believe he had. He seems like the kind of thing like Joe Rogan's always like, dude, I fucking love. Yeah? No, I bet not.

He probably is like two. He's been on Joey Diaz's show, which is just one step over. I thought that was... Alright, let's keep going. Alright, Hacks. Gene Smart, baby. Gene Smart, till death do us part.

Oh my god. Gene Smart? You have two of these performers that are near and dear to your heart not just smart but what about jennifer coolidge if gene smart is still death to his part where's jennifer okay all right we haven't even gotten to the 45 minutes he looked down it says jennifer coolidge and anything yeah quite literally prestige casting i guess jennifer coolidge and hacks no no no i'm just saying she's just had a you know she's been in every like she's been like what five like four shows this year she was in the watcher she was

pretty funny in the watcher not gonna lie uh all right avid elementary the whole cast prestige casting you do not put a cast together like that without getting an award from me and this is my other show of the year that like is the thing that i most enjoyed watching and it's because it's not trying to do like prestige television is just it's just the best solid yeah just solid not trying to do prestige television because that's exactly what it is. It's exactly. It's not like prestige TV as defined by like by hour long dramas and, uh, John, like what John Barenthal would call.

Oh, wait, wait. Is it the Barenthal bears? Or is it the Barenthal bear? Uh, that's why I couldn't find it when I was Googling the damn name. I thought it was Barenthal.

Where's anotherthal? Berenstein bear situation. Did I just get here from a parallel universe? What the frick? You know, John Bernthal's documentary is amazing. Yeah. Who else? The Bear.

Jeremy Allen White and Ayo Edeberry. Incredible. I think this was my favorite prestige TV show. The Bear, Jeremy Allen White and Ayo Edeberry. This was my favorite prestige TV show. The Bear. It stressed me out like no other. I was so stressed during that show. Corner. Corner. Yes, Chef.

I really found him to be one of the most compelling leads in anything. Well, line up, Jack. So did half the internet. Yeah, I know. Yes, chef, if you know what I mean.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yes, chef. Yes, chef, if you know what I mean. Should be a t-shirt. If you know what I mean. Eyebrows, but what do I mean? With his face face like a picture of him on it um special mention to i don't know his name even moss bockrock the guy who plays the cousin who's just like such

such such heart age such a shit bag yeah yeah yeah oh Oh, he's great. What else is he from? He's from Girls, where he plays Marnie's husband, who's also a shit bag. That's right. So good at playing a shit bag. No matter what he's doing. He's such a shit bag. I think he might be a shit bag. But a totally different type of shit bag.

I actually saw that, dude. IRL. And I was just like, man, you must be the world's biggest shit bag I said that to him shit bag he's like hey man I'm just trying to play with my kids at this park exactly I will say he's also an Andor

he's playing a shit bag yeah I mean incredible work he's got a good look to him where like you like just on first glance you're like he looks like he slept like about two and a half hours. Oh, yeah. He has like his blood type is nicotine. Right. Guess where he's from.

Guess what state he's from. No, you know this. Mm-hmm. Come on. You know what state he's from. Come on, Jack. I do. Yeah, you know. He's a shitbag. He's a real shitbag. He's a shitbag. He's a real piece of shit. He's a real piece of shit. Like Florida Steaks and shit. Where is he from? Like Florida? No, Jack. Oh, it's a shit bag. He's a real shit bag. He's a real piece of shit? Like Florida Steaks and shit? Where is he from?

No, Jack! He's a piece of shit! He's a asshole! Are you kidding? Some of the absolute worst and the absolute best people come from Massachusetts. Isn't that incredible? The Commonwealth, man.

That state produces literal dumpster fires and literal prestige. Incredible. We got Jenny Slate. We got this asshole, Eben. I mean, honestly, I could go forever. Go, Ben. Go forever.

Mitchell. Genevieve Parisi from Bachelor in Paradise. It's just never ending like the amount of people who are from Massachusetts uh love it should we take a little break come back and move on forward to more prestige final round alright

while you're on the break go and look up real ones John Bernthal or Bernthal John Bernthal B-Ethal. John Bernthal. B-E-R-N-T-H-A-L. You probably didn't know that. You probably thought it was Bernthal. We'll be right back.

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Mark Wahlberg are friends, probably. Oh. Bernthal and Wahlberg? Yeah. Oh, shit. Miles just sent us a glamour shot of Bernthal. That's his brotheral and oh that's his brother okay i was just gonna you know i thought you looked like dr oz wait this is the one who's gonna marry

cheryl sandberg yeah they're already married i believe perfect because that's it you have like the rough and tumble one i'm an nbc news producer no i'm pretty sure he owns like a like a finance group now or something well now he has founder and ceo of kelton a hybrid marketing research and strategy consultancy you already know that's going and also my daughter's name kroll kelton kelton and kelton bernthal that's that's the type of names like you encounter on a playground these days also super producer brian pointed out that they're probably both too alpha like they wouldn't like their crews would get in a fist fight on their behalf but like they wouldn't be able to share the same room the two bernthal brothers no bernthal and walberg no because here's what's

gonna happen bernthal is okay with playing the bad guy. Yeah. But if you notice, Mark Wahlberg will never play the bad guy because he could have saved 9-11, you know? Yeah. He could have saved 9-11. That doesn't even make sense. Yeah. He could have saved 9-11.

He could have saved 9-11. So here is the thing. Here's what I assume. There is a team up coming up where uh you know mark walberg's like favorite role is to play one of those like secret agents that's a ghost he doesn't exist he doesn't have fingerprints or whatever right yeah what's the one movie where he's like you should be careful no i think you should be no you should be careful that's the energy of like what are you guys talking about cut this scene right the scene is useless you just want to show that he's not

allowed to be told to be careful anyway here's what i assume will happen john bernthal will come and play some evil character a la we own this city and then mark walberg will be cast opposite of him in an ep role of course he executive produces all his roles as the good guy who's coming to stop bernthal that's what i predict the meetup will be. And I bet it will be the same energy of the Vin Diesel and the Rock contract where neither of them is allowed to win or lose in a fight. Oh, right. That's like a draw.

Yeah, it's a draw because a building falls on them and they're both fine. But like the buildings in between them so they can't keep fighting. Walbur, Bernthal. Walburnthal. Exactly exact I was about to say that that's what the fucking trailer is gonna

say we own this city by the way like that that's the only burn thought I saw this year I didn't see American Jig love but like his performance and that is like that's not my favorite that wasn't my

favorite thing I saw this year and I had super high expectations I was very up for it I thought he was great in that role he was so good yeah here's the thing I thought he was a little too good in that role you know you know what I mean

he's enjoying playing this evil cop too much you know where I was like okay he has this like one moment where the guy like goes in he's gone into all of the corrupt cops to like see what they'll say for themselves and like bernthal just like make steady eye contact with him but he's like doing this thing with his eyes that is like it's one of the wildest things and it like i've seen three people like different people in my life who have like all done that and it was just like the perfect encapsulation of this

like one type of macho dickhead that was just like so fucking perfect man the whole the whole performance is wild pmd so good why is he so good at playing cops you know I think we can't move past that Google real one go up to a cop right now and take their mask off I guarantee y'all is under there

it was the whole literally something up with that dude in cops i just don't like it anyway uh moving forward uh atlanta i just think brian tyree henry is so good in atlanta because you see him playing this very sort of tough sort of almost like toxic masculine rapper in atlanta in the south right like he's so self-serious he's like don't fuck with me you know i grew up in like very rough neighborhoods so i know what the streets are like i used to sell weed but now i'm a rapper

and i'm successful and then you see him in like i don't know any other movie and he's like oh i'm british and you're like what yeah he is like he was suddenly in everything after everyone saw atlanta but in everything as like 20 different types of people like just always like in that uh king kong versus godzilla movie he plays like a internet troll like conspiracy theorist. It's like the role that you would normally that used to go to Justin Long and he fucking nails it. Yeah, like he's

so good in that movie. Yeah, and then like yeah, what bullet train he's like British and bullet train, isn't he? Yeah, he's British and bullet train and is he? I can't remember actually, but then also in that Marvel movie that failed spectacularly with Angelina Jolie in it. He's like, I'm gay in this one.

And on top of that one, I'm the nerdy computer guy. And you're like, this guy is literal. He has got versatility. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, he went to like Yale acting school or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's serious? Oh, yeah. He's like, he's prestiged the fuck out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he went to like, I think like Yale acting school or something. Yeah. Yeah. Serious.

Oh, yeah. He's like, he's prestiged the fuck out. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so he was what I, this is where this came from. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. He wasn't, he's not like some freak. He's like, I do this. Okay. So here's the thing. I just understood where prestige casting came from. Okay. Brian Tyree.

Brian Tyree. There it is. When I saw him in atlanta five years ago when that show first started or whatever i think that's where it started to become clear to me that there is a prestige here right to casting yeah to this paper boy perhaps he will become a paper man by the end of this paper boy paper boy yet he's just that first season when the episode where uh van is trying to buy weed or even the episode where he's just trying to get a haircut i mean there are so many i mean even in the new season final season where he gets a farm and he's just trying to survive on a farm i mean

guys there's so much going on in Atlanta with Brian Tyree Henry. You have to go watch just for him. Yeah. Okay. This fool, Frankie Quinonez. I mean, Frankie. Frankie, yeah.

Is he not born to be a star? You were talking about the show This Fool, by the way. Yeah, sorry. Oh, yeah. This Fool, Frankie Quinonez. This Fool, Frankie Quinonez. This Fool, the TV show, great. It's on Hulu. Go watch it right now. Frankie.

Incredible. Born to be a star. Born to play that role in This Fool. I can't wait to see a bit more stuff. It makes sense. That one totally makes sense. The person I really enjoy, not to say that I watched the show for this person, but the person I really enjoy like not to say that the whole i i

watch the show for this person but this person i was most surprised by by it is michael imperioli oh yeah because it feels like his character in this full almost feels like a parallel universe and the sopranos like if christopher got straight and like tried to help people because it's kind of he kind of has the same like yeah there something about it. This Fool Sopranos universe is connected. Yeah, for sure. You look around, you see Creeper in the back of a scene. When Frankie Quinones is the main character. Did you notice this Fool and the corporate universe are connected?

Oh, right. I remember you saying that. And everyone always says corporate is connected to the Sopranos. So think about it. If so, fact. They do say that. Yeah. Anyway, so also Frankie has a great podcast with us. If so, they do say that. Yeah. Anyway,

so also Frankie has a great podcast with us. The Frankie Quinones show on iHeart and Big Money Players to go check that out. He does a lot of

hilarious characters. Wow. And a great cross promo. Okay. White Lotus. Another Michael Imperioli character that could be

Christopher in a parallel universe where he got sober. I haven't seen it yet i'm stacking them all so i can burn through them because i can't i can't wait for white lotus i'm like just like just give them because what did the finale just happen or it's about to happen no it's next week okay yeah yeah so that means i'm about to start in a few days but it's good huh i'm canceling all my plans on sunday just to wait for it to go live because i

have been enjoying this season of White Lotus so much. People have been hating. They're like, oh, it's not as good as season one. Well, guess what? Last week's episode sent us. Well, I guess this is in the future, but the fourth episode was unreal. Episode five

leading into six. Oh my gosh, you guys. This is a, I gotta tell you you Mike White of the White Lotus family. Incredible work. Yeah. From hotelier to television writer. What if I thought they were connected? Anyway so

so good. But I mean as a fan of branding you have to respect putting your last name in the title of your show. Yes. And Jennifer Coolidge. The tie in from season 1 to season 2 respect putting your last name in the title of your show yeah yes and jennifer coolidge the tie in from season one to season two and probably further along because the let's be real the show is about her yeah incredible i have a really weird situation where my six-year-old's voice has turned into jennifer coolidge's voice just like for the past like. How would you do that? Yeah, he's got high pitch, but

gravelly. He's like, Portia, be careful. I just kind of went like Jennifer Tilly. You dumbass. You're like, what? He does say that to me a lot. Stop saying that to me.

Yeah, White Lotus Season 2 is definitely good. It's got my attention. And I just want to shout out to a breakout star from the show, Megan Fahey. You say her last name. She plays one of the main characters, the wife of that guy, Cameron, who's really terrifying. Oh, my God. She is killing it.

Yeah. I have never known of her before this. And I am. I'm in baby. I'm in. She plays the woman who's like, I don't have a lot of girlfriends, but yeah.

Yeah. She really nails. And she's like, men have to cheat because they're sad and lonely. And you're like, and then she makes that metaphor about the elephants. Right. It's like you they're

just like elephants just running into each other they're so pathetic she started off on a soap opera one life to live that's the soap opera prestige casting pipeline also from the commonwealth of massachusetts wow they're just they're just cranking out Prestige over there In Massachusetts Dude I'm telling you Massachusetts Just does it They bring out

Some of the most Wait hold on You guys Jamie Loftus I know Yeah I know It's scary

I was thinking of this Whole time Guys Prestige casting That's who I thought The whole time I didn't say it though I'm telling you Like There's something in the water over there.

Yeah. Poison. Mass holes, let us know what it is, you know? Amy Poehler. Betty Davis. Chloe Savigny. Savigny. It's okay.

Steve Carell. John Krasinski. Who cares about his fucking cop ass? Conan. Conan O'Brien. That's right. Leonard Nimoy. Dane Cook.

Rob Zombie. Dane Judy. Hold on, you didn't hear me. Dane Cook. Okay, slow your roll. Uma Thurman. I mean, we need the other side of the coin. Z-Way.

Z-Way. Z-Way. Dana Gould. Yes. Matt Damon. Bo Burnham. Corddry. What the fuck is going on? Jennifer Gould. Is she? Jennifer Gould Matt Damon, Bo Burnham Corddry Jennifer Coolidge

Is she? Jennifer Coolidge Jennifer Coolidge is born in Boston, Masshole Wow Anna you figured it And she went to Emerson Maybe it's because Emerson's there.

That's why these people are so good. But either way, like it's I mean, you guys. I went to school in Boston. Rachel Drash. Now you did. OK, I've never heard you ever bring a Massachusetts report. Why did you never bring that up? Conveniently, now he's like, now I'm in Massachusetts.

Now he's in Massachusetts. He's like, oh, Jack O'Brien. Put that on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. It's I went to school in Cambridge. H uh i went to i went to school it's john benjamin school in cambridge that's when you know they're saying they went to harvard speaking of these fucking josh gondelman who was very much did he go is he so i bet i can even is even from there

i know because everyone good is from fucking massachusetts what the fuck y'all are cheating telling you. There's something in the water there. I'm not going to say that person. Anyway, so yeah. It's like Trump. Oh, it's over. It's ruined.

Yo, you know what's wild though? Shout out to the comedians from Massachusetts Wikipedia page because Jamie Loftus is in there like swimwear under the L's. Leary Leno Loftus. The headline. Leary, Loftus. The headline. Leary, Leno, Loftus. Remember that movie that had that marketing campaign? Leary, Leno,

Loftus. Together under one roof. Santa U. The wildest stand-up special of all time. Manzoukas, too. Yeah, I'm telling you.'s happening patrice i feel like they're a lot of them are from newton for some reason just they give newton vibes hey i played hockey over there dude yeah i'm telling you mass is putting these people out yeah any other ones

or do we leave it on that high note of just knowing that we've stumbled across the nexus of prestige casting the commonwealth of massachusetts yeah i'm telling you anyway righteous gemstones everyone involved yep everyone involved in righteous gemstones great casting only murders in the building martin and short baby those two together so funny and then also when they did their like emmy thing together like emmy presentation at the Emmys. It was like one of the funniest things I've ever seen. They're so funny.

Martin and short. That's Steve and Steve Martin and Martin short. Yeah. Martin and short. Martin short. Martin short. Steve and Martin. Anyway, they're so funny together.

I think they're like a genius casting. The most confusing way to say their names possible. Just one last one. Yeah. American Crime Story, the Clinton one. Sarah Paulson as Linda Tripp. Wow, I didn't know that that was happening. Go Google image right now, Sarah Paulson as Linda Tripp,

and tell me if you can even see Sarah Paulson. Everybody do this right now. I'll wait 45 minutes while you guys freak out. Figure out how to use our computers. How do I do that? I can't. How do I bring up PDF, Jack? Whoa. Yo.

Linda, look it. Honey. Linda, listen. Linda, listen. You are tripping. What? Linda? She's killing it here. I'll post it in the chat or in our thread. I'll post it in our thread. That is fantastic. Linda?

Linda. Yeah. Honey. That's Sarah Paulson. All right, Sarah. Yeah, yeah. She nailed it. Dude, incredible work.

Anyway, people say her fat suit was problematic. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We should stop wearing fat suits. Anyway. You know where she's from? Tampa. Oh.

Who, Linda Tripp? No, Sarah Paulson. Oh, yeah. Linda Tripp is from Tampa, Jack. No, you know Linda Tripp's from Mass because she's a real one. She's from Jersey City, baby. That's where Linda Tripp's from. And I just want to give a special shout out to just the show, The Peacemaker.

The casting was fine, but the opening sequence in my opinion is prestige opening sequence. That band number that they do? I have my favorite intro to a TV series ever. That intro goes as well. I haven't seen it. What happened to that one? Is it a cool

band sequence? Is it a sexy 80s band kind of vibe? Like Peacemaker? Isn't that the Peacemaker one? They make the entire cast to a full dance sequence. And it goes on for like 45 minutes, it feels like. It is dancing. Every time I watch, I'm like, is this one different?

No. You just notice new things. You notice something different. That's how you know you've got a good intro. Miles, any trash TV tv you want a trash reality tv not really i'm just you know the ultimatum was one that i couldn't it was jaw droppingly just the most awful kind of people and a lot of the net like most of the netflix sort of like they're fully embracing they're like fucked up social experiment parading as reality

sort of thing that they got going on uh and the ultimatum was sort of like that too and it's like make them date other people or get married and other than that like a lot of shows have fallen off like 90 day fiance for as much as i love it like the way they're making that show now is like they're just they're just showing people in like abusive relationships and like expecting viewers to be like, Oh my gosh, they're so messy. When most people were like, y'all, this is like really bad.

Like, why are you putting them on TV? So there's, there's some, there's some soul searching going on on the full on trash side of, of reality things. That's why I prefer to be, you know,

uplifted by, uh, these realizations that all the best performers come from Massachusetts. So thank you for that. And also I have to say The Watcher was, I agree with a lot of good ones, honest said. The ones that I saw,

the only bad one I want to mention is The Watcher was so, so bad. Made me feel crazy. It made me despair for the future of American movies and TV shows because this is like, all the different ingredients are there. It's just like it doesn't have, there's like not, you know, they're like all the different ingredients are there. It's just like,

it doesn't have, there's like not, you know, there's like fine performances, fine filmmaking, but it's just like, there it's so thin. They're just stretching.

Well, and here's my theory on the watcher. The actual story that the watcher is based off has no real conclusion. So it's about a town in new jersey like a nice small affluent town that this family buys a house and then they start getting these letters from some guy who calls or guy or woman i don't know um it's like i'm the watcher who calls themselves the watcher that runs through your household i'm gonna yeah just send them a bunch of creepy ass letters and so the family freaks out and tries to find out

who it is yeah uh now a series of things go down where the neighborhood is basically not on their side it's really weird all the neighbors are like oh you guys are just trying to bring our property values down and they're being like we're being threatened our children are being threatened don't fuck my money up yeah and everyone's being really really dismissive of them and they're basically like being terrorized for years like they lose their minds this poor couple can't like find peace and like the woman ends up being like and this is a real life couple ends up being diagnosed with ptsd because of how stressful the whole scenario is and there's like a whole thing i really recommend actually going to read the article about the family, what really went down in the cut,

because it really breaks down what happened to this family. To this day, there's absolutely no resolution to what happened. So I think if you're going to do a show where there's no resolution, so you then have to create a sort of bombastic ending, you're not going to succeed. Don't do the show.

Don't do the show. Or actually end it how it ended in real life which is absolutely zero you know resolution with the neighbors continuing to be acting shady like something's up in that town and i play tennis with a girl who's from the town next door and she says you don't go there oh i love that i play tennis with a girl that lives i play with a girl who lived who grew up in the town right next to it which has like the same vibe but they say like that town like i think it's like westfield or something is just the people they're just not good people because that's how they treat people they're like oh i'm sorry are you being terrorized no you don't get to go around and tell people being you're terrorized because this is a nice

neighborhood and these houses have property value. And if you're going to destroy the property value because this guy is threatening to steal your children. Oh, you the nerve. We can't stand having shook ones in this neighborhood. We need real ones. Thank you. To which I got to say with no agenda. Super producer Brian just sent something through a clip from when John Bernthal is interviewing a fucking cop on his podcast.

I don't know what is about to be played, but here's a sample. Police charge. Where do you think? I mean, obviously, look, man, there's all this shit in the news and all this. There's Jon Bernthal productions and these unjustified shootings and shit like that. But this idea of police reform and defunding the police and all that like where do you think that stuff is coming from oh dude wow what a question okay first of all where do you think this where do you think that's reform stuff's coming from punisher he literally he

the way oh my bad the unjustified shootings this is how he looks in it he got a black he got a black beanie on with the hood like he's kd shooting like warm-up shots or something yeah and this is what i'm talking about yeah this is what i'm talking about the way he just said all this shit dude like you know that's going on oh peak out of why are you dressed like an armed robber? Like everything about this is just absurd. Yeah. Wow. I just don't get it.

I need to hear this answer just real quick. That there was an idea that there needs to be some reform in certain styles of policing. Wait, can we pause it? They're doing this interview on a poker table. Yeah. They're doing an interview on a poker table yeah yeah because they're doing an interview on a poker table that's badass that's badass that's what you do because it's like brit what kind of cards you're gonna bring to the table and are you gonna ante up or are you gonna show me

cop out like uh or bust you know anyway let's see what this sleepy-eyed man has to say i think he just snowballed into something that it wasn't meant to be. Do you think that there needs to be reform in certain styles of policing? I think there needs to be reform in training and recruitment. I think recruitment is a big thing. Look, man, you're always going to have corrupt police. Oh, here we go. Bad apples.

Now I'm off this. Thanks, Bernthal, for the copaganda, bruh. And he mostly has cops on that show he's like all these different types of people cops other cops real ones only he's like and this week we have putin telling his side it's like nothing makes sense all right so like a crown prince hey is it cool if i call you mo or mbs what do you like better all right so what i'm thinking dude is like everybody's tripping right about like how you're doing your thing like why can't people just butt out you know from the kingdom there's all this sort

of like stuff in the news about people disappearing and like women having no rights and like mass murders of people who dissent from what you want obviously the unjustified mass murder and stuff but like where do you think that stuff comes from like the news stories and stuff like you mean what's that about what do you think where does it come from like you're positing that some fucking some person in a science lab is like i I'm going to cook up some cop again. Like, reverse cop again. That makes it look bad. They're just reporting.

But that's where this stuff comes from, man. But anyway. Where does that come from? Dude, where does that come from? People getting killed in the streets for nothing. Bernthal, man. If anything, bless this episode. This has come full circle. We're after it. We're like, man. If anything, bless this episode. We're just going to come full circle. We're after it.

We're like, man, fucking Berenthal, bro. I'm telling you, all cops are Berenthal. All cops are Berenthal. All cops are Berenthal. I've been telling you, I came in like, ooh, okay, Mr. Berenthal on American Gigolo. What? Look at his Wikipedia page.

I was like, he's a cop. But he's a cop. Yeah. Does he still have that same picture? The Burns ball? Yes. Jack, yes, you know he does. Wow. Go look at Okay, here's another thing. Go look at his show logo and then go look at his Wikipedia photo. Yeah.

The Wikipedia photo is the best. Just the biggest fitted off to the side in the most aggressive way. He looks like a dude. He looks like a guy who would claim at a bar that he's the OG of vape smoking tricks. He's been doing

that shit since 98. Yeah, where they're like, alright, dude, you're kind of old. He's like, yeah, dude, just check out the fucking videos, dude. I have mixtapes and shit, but you can get them on Kazaa back in the day. I don't know if that shit's around. Oh my god. Alright, guys, that is going to do it for this special year-end

dish of the Daily Zeitgeist. Thank you so much, Super Producer Ana Hosnia. I'm actually going to change the title of this episode. It's going to be called 2022 Prestige Casting. Is Jon Bernthal a cop? Yeah, all cops are Bernthal. Not Bernthal, it's Bernthal a cop? Yeah. Yeah. All cops are Bernthal. Not Bernthal.

It's Bernthal. Fuck it. Bernholtz. Bernholtz. Is Ike Bernholtz a cop? I don't know. Just spitballing here. All right.

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