The Daily Zeitgeist - Pretrenders 12/10; Jim Breuer, Kanye, Delta, Julian Assange, Drake, 'Sex and the City'

Episode Date: December 10, 2021

In this edition of Pretrenders, Jack and special guest host Joelle Monique discuss the comedy world losing Jim Breuer to the dark side, Kanye's publicist harrassing a Georgia election worker, the Delta flight diverted after a passenger assaults a flight attendant, Julian Assange being extradited from UK prison to US, Drake and Kanye's 'Donda' performance, and the new 'Sex and the City' series. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Pretrenders. Miguel Saavedra suggested The Pretrender by the Fooziders, but I don't know that song, so I just did the band The Pretrenders, who I like. I'm Jack, and that is Joelle Monique. Hey, what's up? What's up joelle oh man a lot of hot topics to get into so much mess the hottest we're about to we're about to uh kick it off with i think the hottest topic that we've ever covered and that is of course the comedic stylings of a gym brewer um yeah you know uh we've been saying it for years uh but conservatives are getting funnier and the left is nervous um so jim brewer uh who was kind of always bad on like i feel like you know people will typically um be like the current season of snl sucks like when i was younger snl fucking ruled man um i that is not true because when i was younger jim brewer was on

snl and uh his he just like did goat sounds and also looked high and that was that was the thing that was his comedy was either a full swing or an entire miss yeah there was no in between it was messy so he has uh recently come out as like anti-vax anti-government doesn't get to tell us what to do man um and so he canceled a show where they were asking people to be vaccinated or mandating it. He's gone on Tucker Carlson and, you know, just made very just the most basic bottom feeding anti-vax points like that. You expect anti-vaxxers to make. Uh, and he just did a new like sand standup set at like something,

some like Christian conference, um, that is going viral because it's so good. Uh, super producer, Brian, can you bless us with, uh, this Jim Brewer thing,

uh, where he combines his two skills of animal impressions and being, uh, fucking complete, uh, right wing dipshit. You know what a cockatoo is? Cockatoo. He's doing an impression of a crow, by the way. I was going to say, not how a cockatoo sounds.

A dying goat, maybe? That's a goat. That's all he learned how to do yeah that's it little cockadoos staring at the screen facts and figures facts and figure dr falchi dr falchi and then he makes a real ugly face and sticks his tongue out uh all right that that should do um that is good yeah that's courtesy of americanfaith.com uh he was at like the american faith uh conference i just want to let you know the only people at the american faith conference were white from the video that we just saw there's not a speck of color in the bunch so white uh and like didn't really know how to laugh uh it seemed like they were just like smiling like oh he's he's telling a joke this is the best they have for comedy i really think

listen here's my new i if we're just gonna go on a roll of conspiracy theories today which i feel in my soul is gonna happen uh it seems to me as if comedians on the outs are like gotta get in front of an audience again i'm just gonna go full right wing they need comedians i need money and listen we'll just make it work and listen that is not how long did he work on that joke that's not ours that's not working and perfecting a joke until it hits perfectly. This is throwaway material. Yeah. It's the, it's some stuff that he has gotten, uh,

other plandemic people to like agree with. Uh, and he's been like, he's confusing agreement with laughter, I guess. I don't know. It's very funny stuff. Uh,

very inspired. Uh, and you know, people on the left are nervous uh they they have gained the power of comedy and uh it's only a matter of time until uh they win me over personally like that was that was good stuff um what a what a piece of shit uh but you know but it's a great people should go watch the video just because the cutaways of the people laughing are um very surreal like they look like they're laughing from the afterlife

or something like they just yeah they're definitely dead inside and the laughter that's coming up is like residual like they're really trying to make an effort to appear human it's a struggle the uh the strategy of uh making a dumb noise and a dumb face and then just saying what other people believe is is a strong one though and uh yeah we perfected it in kindergarten yeah facts and figures facts and figures wait so facts we're mad about facts okay Okay. All right, man. They listen to Dr. Fauci and they like facts and figures. These evil bastards.

Yeah. Cool. Kanye's publicist is trending because they are in trouble for... So this is kind of a weird story because it's unclear who they went um so they went to the home of a georgia election official and pressured them to say that they committed fraud back when like that was trump's kind of whole whole thing was that he was gonna his last hope yeah um and second to last they didn't say who they were there on behalf of. They were like, I'm here on behalf of a prominent public figure.

So did Kanye. Was it Kanye? Was Kanye like in on the big lie? Like, was he trying to. Huh. I'm assuming they were like working for Trump on the side or something. You have to imagine. But it seemed like Trump was sort of grasping at anybody who was willing to go run a quick deed for him.

Yeah. At that time. I do think like Kanye has pretty openly admitted like he was not within his right mind. He was off of his meds for three years as somebody who takes brain altering meds to get through my day to day life. If you go off those fuckers, it is it's just gone. It takes so long to get everything back. And it just sucks that he's surrounded by people like this who would intimidate an election official.

How how are these wires even crossing? Like the fact that Kanye was so close to the White House, if there had been any kind of organization behind that move, we might have been looking at a Kanye presidency. Horrifying. Horrifying. Oh, man. I really despair for a branch in the multiverse

where a person with their shit together takes all the lessons from the Trump administration and puts them together. That's gonna be uh not great okay very frightening very frightening um all right and and there's just like everyone's mad uh it seems like like a delta uh delta had to like kick a passenger off their flight because they got drunk on the flight and then started like physically abusing flight attendants and uh even fought the air marshal and so they had to land the flight hate crimes are up 100 new york city owing to uh abuse towards asian americans and uh asian people this really goes to be careful what you wish for, because we really said, hey, I really hope it's like the roaring 20s when we get to 2020.

Yeah, we are filled with belligerence. Just everywhere you look, just people way more liquored up. We saw that huge spike in wine sales over the last two years. Everyone is fighting on a plane. I don't understand why I sort of do. Planes are hyper uncomfortable. You can't do anything or go anywhere really god forbid you happen to get an old plane without a tv screen in front of you the chaos it's it feels like a new level of torture i flew for my birthday to new york

on one of the most uncomfortable planes i've ever been on like the most 90 degree no padded seats ever horrible on the other hand it's sort of wild to me because i don't know if you saw but american airlines kicked off a mother with like a seven week seven month old baby a very tiny child um apparently for talking back like the skies are not friendly anymore there are no friendly skies to fly stay grounded avoid air travel um and the hate if you can but it's up a hundred percent so and i think we're just in it now this is this is our roaring 20s and it is violent yeah it's like everybody had visions of the great gatsby but like uh

everybody just turned into yeah they didn't read the great gatsby and didn't didn't read about tom buchanan and didn't realize that everybody was turning into Tom Buchanan instead of any of the other characters. They saw the movies and they were like, that party looks lit. And it's like, whole betrayals happen, a lot of death. It's messy. It's not an ideal world. You don't want to go back there. Yeah.

All right. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, I do want to prepare you because the Sex and the City reboot has issued a big, you know, twist in the very first episode back. And we will spoil that shit because it is trending as well as the major corporation whose stock that twist has driven down 11%. So, yeah, that would have been a good tease if I knew how to word sentences. You got there. I think you guys get what I'm saying.

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So a couple of months back, Yahoo News, who are apparently, you know, our hardest hitting news outlet, reported that CIA officials had drawn up options for former U.S. President Donald Trump's administration for dealing with Julian Assange while he was holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. And those options were anywhere from kidnapping him to assassinating him. Those were those were the that was the range that they were working with. And so the U.S. has been since they, I guess, like saw this guy have been trying extradite him to america and presumably put him in solitary confinement and then like have him accidentally harm himself or whatever and so like one of the top judges in america below the supreme court but like way up there has ruled that um it is okay for them to extradite him. And so it's looking bad for Julian Assange, looking bad for journalism.

You know, WikiLeaks editor-in-chief Kristen Hrafnson is exactly how that's pronounced. So in case you ever want to know how it's pronounced, just go back and listen to that. Kristen Hrafnson said, exactly how that's pronounced so in case you ever want to know how it's pronounced just go back and listen to that kristin fraffinson said julian's life is once more under grave threat and so is the right of journalists to publish material that governments and corporations find inconvenient this is about the right of a free press to publish without being threatened by a bullying superpower. Um, yeah. So I, and I think all that, that's all pretty accurate. Um, yeah, I mean, listen, this is, it's, it, you want it to be shocking. You want it to not be true. And, uh,

yet they've killed so many of our great thought leaders, you know, in the past 50, 60 years. Yeah. It's, it's kind of devastating to know that we're aware of that. And they still moving as if no one can see them. It's like, well, well, we know what you're doing. Please don't do that. And the same way that I just, I hope he can get out. I hope he can.

I don't know how, I don't know if he can, but I hope he can get out and doesn't have to come back here ever again. That is so bananas that I hate state sanctioned murder. I hate it so much. I hate that we just lost another person to death row for not even do. Guy didn't kill anybody. He just happened to be an area where police officers were killed and they were like, well, got to take that guy out. There was no stay of execution, even though they proved he didn't murder anyone. And I think I'm just sort of devastated by the amount of murder our state has sanctioned to people. We can't prove our guilty and people

who did nothing more than try to be patriotic and take care of the people by voicing their opinions like that is sick we live in a sick country we do very i and like i always want to whenever uh julian assange's name is mentioned i always want to like be like look i don't like this guy any more than you do um but i also have started to wonder if all the stories that have been, you know, published about like how bad a house guest he was in the embassy and like how, uh, unreasonably, like,

I don't know how much of this shit is true. You can definitely question a lot of Julian Assange's actions, but I think we can all, or hopefully most of us can agree. He hasn't done anything worthy of death. Like nothing that gives the state the right to like literally end his life. And I think that at least the initial actions he took that got him into the press are commendable. Yeah.

This is really sad. We have Kanye in the news again for a second thing. For good times uh he and drake had a like dual concert or like appeared together at a what was the cause the larry hoover freedom yeah yeah free larry uh event uh he's on tour apparently i just like one of my friends was like oh i'm going to see kanye i didn't even realize like usually his tours are big events and there's donda there's super huge events there was a line wrapped around uh soldier field in chicago for this one for the donda one okay but like i i always i've come to expect like some sort of you know stage, stage thing that's, that's associated with it. Like,

you know, I, I saw the, uh, St. Pablo performance where he was like floating around the forum on like that glowing stage. It seems like there's not that now in this,

in the Donda one. Um, it, it wasn't for me. I, I, um, that's why I was talking to a friend this morning. I was like, well, which kind of albums do you rock with? I was like, well, obviously, College Dropout remains a pinnacle. I think 808s and Heartbreaks didn't get enough love and credit.

That was an artist really trying to stretch himself and do something interesting. And those music videos are some of the most beautiful music videos ever produced. something interesting and those music videos are some of the most beautiful music videos ever produced um but the minute he said something about old kanye and and how everyone i was like yeah we do we do this is now off the walls i don't know i hope i hope he comes it seems like he's trying to come back down to earth it's it's hard when you have mental health issues like that but i also think um listen to help larry hoover i guess but you know maybe what if we focused our energy on getting uh non-violent drug offenders out of prison specifically the ones who you know so bleed i just think there's better energies kanye could be putting his time behind uh than this entire concert series which seems a little yeah it's weird to me i saw i saw him at

madison square garden uh after or for the late registration album but it was the it was the madison square garden below like the big one because that's how like he was just like kind of you know he was popular square gardens yeah there's know, he was popular. Madison Square Gardens. Yeah. That's a, you learn that like in, you're like, Oh, I'm going to the garden to see this band. And then like,

I'm shocked that, uh, you know, the strokes can sell at Madison Square Garden. Then it ends up being, uh, like underneath in this like basement area. That's just a much smaller place,

but he was not comfortable performing yet uh kanye at that time and it was still fucking awesome but it was also like oh my god yeah yeah it was the polo days uh and even then he had a cool stage set up though but it was like a very small stage set up he's an artist oh my gosh and finally all right sex in the city uh fans who haven't watched the first episode of what's it called and just like that and then it happened and just like that and just like so we were talking before about why they gave it such a bad name because they're definitely trying to rebrand you were speculating it has something to do with the fact that the kind of core demo of sex in the city fans are you know aging and yes maybe it's because it does sound like one of those like diane keaton rom-coms from like the early aughts

yes something's got to give yeah something's got to get like just a vague like kind of cliched like phrase that doesn't doesn't sound like it should be a movie or a tv show title uh and are are like impossible to remember like i've never been able to remember which one is like remember the kitchen or the iconic turtleneck sweater or jack trying to climb those stairs after his heart attack so he can have sex listen that movie is iconic something's got to give a top 10 movie oh i'm not but just the title is hard to remember just like and just like that it's just like it's just not a phrase that like can possibly stick in the mind there's another one like something's got to give uh which i would bring

up now if those men those titles were it's complicated that's the one you have to love a nancy meyers jam all of her kitchens are great and Keanu Reeves is a sexy doctor who likes older women. Yeah. They're so good. They're so hard to remember. Come up with better titles for these great works of genius. Anyways, the new one is called And Just Like That. And it's a reboot of Sex and the City. It does not have Kim Cattrall.

It does not have Samantha um which people were like what huh why that's gonna happen you guys need all four yeah and now uh and here's the big spoiler doesn't have mr big anymore mr big dies of a heart attack in the very first episode in episode one and peloton is trending because mr big gets off of his thousandth bike ride on peloton like this goal he's like super excited about i guess and then dies of a heart attack promptly and uh and peloton stock has like gone down%. I guess it's been gone going down all year because people no longer want to feel like they're in that, uh, black mirror episode where everybody just like has to work on an exercise bike and like sleep in the room that they exercise and live in and work in.

And, uh, like we're all just like little cogs. It's just not squid games. Yeah. It's yeah, exactly. People for some reason are starting to not want to feel like that. But anyways, they're trying to do damage control.

And so they got Dr. Suzanne Steinbaum, a preventative cardiologist and member of Peloton's health and wellness advisory council to make a, to make a statement. She said, peloton's health and wellness advisory council uh to make a take a statement um she said i'm sure s.a.t.c fans like me are saddened by the news that mr big dies of a heart attack yo spoilers you can't put her out there making statements like this she you need to have like a pop culture uh consultant there to be like oh no we want to say spoiler uh and then uh she says and this is fucking cold-blooded mr big lived what many would call an extravagant lifestyle

including cocktails cigars and big steaks and was at serious risk as he had a previous cardiac event in season six only real fans remember these lifestyle choices and perhaps even his family history which often is a significant factor were the likely cause of his death riding his peloton bike may have even helped delay his cardiac event In my completely independent doctoral medical opinion. Oh, no. With absolutely unaffected by my position as a member of this board that gets, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars poorer every time the stock price goes down. I'm going to just say

had nothing to do with it sorry uh i have like seven things to say first of all good on you sex in the city good on you for killing off big yes that story had fully run its course i saw a great tweet yesterday i'm sorry i don't remember who tweeted it but they were like am i the only one who remembers how bad he treated her and no random person on the internet you're not big was awful to carry remember when he left her in the middle of the street on their wedding day what a douche um i'm so glad he's gone let's find out what older single carrie is like like many of these women out here without their husbands and just their good friends to like go drink and enjoy i don't know good books and great cocktails and a fabulous closet.

Situation like that, Joelle, something's got to give, you know, find a Keanu and pick him over Jack Nicholson. OK, you can do it. He was a doctor. What were you doing, Diane? I digress. I also think that calling out Mr. Big's quote unquote extravagant lifestyle, like 98 percent of Americans aren't somewhat living that lifestyle anyway, is bull.

OK, if Mr. Big had to be worried, we all have to be worried. Right. You're really you're not helping your case here. You're like the man like steaks and cocktails. We're all drinking. It's the pandemic, ma'am. Please calm down. and third and finally I think it's so wild

how our it's not our entire economy but at least a company's reputation we think on what happens in a frivolous TV show the man was riding a bike and had a heart attack we see people exercise and have heart attacks in movies and TV shows

all the time literally all of the time they clutch their chest they fall over it's dramatic sometimes it's funny if you're jack nicholson and something's got to give it was hilarious it seems like a waste of time i'm sure she was like i gotta do what today and they're like please just write just let them know that peloton didn't kill big so the fictional character do you know i'm a doctor i went to school for so many years. Please just tell the Americans that we didn't kill them. Fine. I got this. Yeah.

I mean. We live in a society, I guess. We live in a society. I mean, that sums it all up. I don't think we ever need to publish another episode of this show. Done! We live in a society. Joelle, as always, such a pleasure having you uh where can people find

you and follow you i'm joelle monique you can find me all over the internet at joelle monique it's j-o-e-l-l-e-m-o-n-i-q-u-e all right uh well that is gonna do it for us on this friday afternoon uh we are back on saturday with a best of of episode we still do that every Saturday people want to check that out and then on Monday with a whole ass episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves

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I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.

Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert, Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit.

Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese.

Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.