The Daily Zeitgeist - Prison = Organ Farm, Boomer Psychiatry 02.02.23

Episode Date: February 2, 2023

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 273 episode 4 of their daily production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's thursday february 2nd 2023 black history month yes it is two two two two three three two two three two two three two two three i'm doing it more like the dance hall siren but two two two three or two two three but see that's you're from europe and i'm from the dance halls of jamaica you are from the dance halls of jamaica uh but it's also national heavenly hash day which i had i just so wild i had this ice cream flavor over the weekend and it's fucking it has like everything oh i thought it was another of these newfangled drugs that you

no no no kids are talking about not like what I was trying to make you do CB2 earlier. But it's also National Groundhog Day, Optimist Day, if you're an optimist, the first Thursday of February. Oh, it's Groundhog Day? Yeah, National Tater Tot Day. Okay. Groundhog Day. How about that? Always sneaks up on my ass, you know?

Yeah. sneaks up on my ass you know yeah and and and every year i'm like not this time i'm gonna have all of my groundhog day plans ready to go and fucked it up again all my phil phil pun based foods i'm making i don't i did for me i feel like when groundhog day came out my interest in groundhog day was like oh it's groundhog day and then that shit yeah and then it fell off like two years later and i was like yeah because also living in california like weather like winter is a foreign concept so yeah miles we don't have a single dang groundhog day article in today's episode we fucked up all right what are we gonna do look there have been like something like 700

poncatani pills or something so that was the thing that always blew my mind yeah they just were killing those things yeah just like what number are they even they'd go through five per shot they're just swapping them out i don't know why i think that's funny that's not funny. Be kind to animals. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien, baby, on the treetop. When the wind blows, this booty will drop. That is courtesy of my brain. Just, that's what I was thinking this morning. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, it's Miles Gray. I'm still an expecting father, but let me tell you something. I'm a.k.a. my bong's stronger than yesterday. Now that I changed the water twice a day, this moldiness ain't killing me no more.

My bong's stronger. Woo! Okay. Shout out to Britney Spears and La Caroni on the Discord. That AKA will be very appropriate when you find out who our guest is. Yeah, yeah. But also, I am cleaning a bong twice a day. Are you?

Is that a new practice? I know that when I lived with a bong as my third roommate, we were very negligent when it came to our upkeep, our water changes. We changed the water infrequently. It's like what you tell your grand, like, you know, when you visit your grandparents and you tell them how you want your life to be going and pretend that's how it's going when it's the opposite. Yeah, I'm not cleaning that shit in my mind though yeah i want to get on that program yeah well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious comedian writer podcaster who you know from lady to lady you know from britney's gram where she helped start the free britney movement and her new podcast babstonance yeah her year of not drinking it's babs gray i was gonna say no one changes a bong water like it doesn't help it just stays bong water it's not even gonna help if you changed it yeah well it helps you keep your shit clean and the flavor is nice but yeah i mean that again the the it's like groundhog day like when i get a new bong

i'm i'm like i'm into it i'm cleaning it and then like three weeks later i'm like oh yeah what happened to that old thing groundhog day i feel like that is like the one holiday that's not people aren't leaning into yet like we didn't even know until now yeah we gotta make it a thing we gotta did you did you care about groundhog's day babs well no i mean i think the only reason that anyone thinks about it right yeah wait but where'd you grow up did you grow up somewhere with weather i grew up in salt lake city so yeah i guess um for us it wasn't. But did that matter? No, it didn't matter. It was more like, it was like, will the Mormons allow people to have rights in their church? That was the decision each year. And then I was like, nope, nope, we're going to go back. Let's see what the groundhog

says. It's a no. It's a no. Yeah. And has your year of living without booze like been like a return to Salt Lake City? Because Salt Lake it's a lot of like, it's an artistic community and stuff like that. So Salt Lake itself is like kind of boozy if you're going to go anywhere in Utah, but yeah, it does feel like a return to like, I didn't drink it till I was 21 or anything. Like I was very like, like, just like, this is when you drink, you know, because it was not like normal quote unquote in my high school to drink really. Yeah. So it is, it's been six months of not drinking. Um,

and it's been, you know, interesting. Uh, finally, I think I got over the hump. I went to New York and that was like horrible. And that was,

it was really hard. And then once I got past that, I was like, I feel like I can probably. Yeah. New York's gotta be tough. If I can not drink here. Yeah.

I was going to try. Yeah. New York, New York. If I can stay sober here, I can stay sober. If you i cannot drink here yeah i was gonna try yeah new york new york if i can stay sober here if you can not drink here you cannot drink anywhere oh yeah yeah yeah that's have you had any dirty uh dirty sodas since since oh yeah those dirty sodas um i did i tried pilk i will say i don't know how was it yeah yeah of course what do you think what do you think this is a podcast non-bullshit come on um you know it was okay actually i think the thing is you have to have more pepsi than

milk because if it's not sweet enough, then you're in trouble. Right. Yeah. Good call. Just a dusting of Pepsi with your milk. Yeah. You got to go ratio more Pepsi. Yeah. Okay.

Good call. Good call. Yeah. All right, Babs, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. I think we have a theme today that is that we live in the dystopian future of eighties movies. It's, it's just so dumb.

Yes. So much dumber than like, people are always like, Oh, we live in the running man. We live in fucking some other, we live in RoboCop. We live in a world that is dumber than robocop well the running man yes so we'll talk about that dr phil's terrible show is ending kind of

not really and also dr phil has like a media empire that i didn't know about you don't fuck with Bull? I can't believe Bull is based on Dr. Phil. Like a version of Dr. Phil that he was telling people was like, yeah, that's what I used to be. A human lie detector test. And you know how even the mechanical ones are totally unreliable. Right. Imagine me with my biases. ones are totally unreliable right imagine but not my biases yeah before we get to any of that shit babs we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are oh my god you know what i searched yesterday was um like a focus app

for your for mac where you can like block certain websites yeah because i'm addicted to this is so embarrassing because i was making fun of people playing fantasy football but i'm addicted to playing risk online i know yeah i feel like this says if you want to know about me that says a lot so i can't stop playing this game and i have to like literally block it because i am playing it all the time and it's bad yeah and everyone who plays with me thinks i'm a man oh like when you're playing like the chat yeah because you can chat and like oh we'll win again you can play with teams and we'll win a game and like yesterday we won a game the guy's like good job gentlemen

you think me babs over here and i'm always just laughing like who the fuck am i i'm probably playing with these like people who i never want to talk to but anyway yeah i have to get a focus app so i can't play it so it's very it's bad because you're not because can you play it on your phone isn't there like a phone version you can there's a phone version but the one i'm playing online is like a little bit different or domination yeah okay a little more nuanced miles a little more complicated it's not for like the nerdiest thing you've ever seen in your life like when you actually see it right you're like i'm napoleon is there any overall strategy you bring to risk like any oh yeah like what you favor that you think is underrated or is this just.

Well, it's like I think you have to be. The problem with me is I'm not patient. So I'll just get annoyed and start like attacking people, you know, because I want to. And so I think patience is probably the best thing you can have. Right, right. Is there like when you play online with people, is there ever like a thing where, you know, like they're exposing themselves as like being shit at at the game or someone you don't like playing with when they move a certain way? Yeah, you can tell. It's funny because when I started, people would get mad at me a lot, and I didn't know

why. Now that I'm playing more, I'm like, oh, I see. Right, right, right. Because you can surrender if you can tell you're losing, and if people are like, what the fuck are you doing? Just surrender. They get mad. Right, right, right.

Yeah. It's like playing Blackjack, and they're like, why are you hitting on 17? Exactly. You're like, why like why are you hitting on 17 exactly why the fuck are you still going just stop and so it's funny because i don't know i get really pissed at you for right you know fucking around fucking up the game it's really embarrassing but i mean look wait did you like is this like a like a latter day saints i'm sorry that it was just rolling into that but like a new found interest for you in life or were you like were you like into risk as a kid i mean i played with my friends a little bit but not like that much i only say i think it's like the not drinking thing like i was just like

you know i'm like i have to spend my time to find something else to do and i found possible thing yeah yeah it's one of the more it's's definitely the healthier, but way less cool way that you can be addicted to risk. I feel like. I'm addicted to risk. You know what I'm saying? I just like to live my life on the edge. Risk aversion. Yeah.

Risk aversion. Not this. Not this guy. Real. Badass. You're just playing risk. I hear computer all night. I think it was way cooler when Babs just kept trying to push those Bored Ape NFTs on us.

I'm sure my friends preferred it if I was getting drunk instead of talking about this game. Well, then they're not your friends, Babs. That's so true. Don't listen to them. They don't care about you. That's right. What is something you think is overrated? Honestly, I feel like the Knives Out movies are overrated. I'm not feeling it.

I really didn't like the first one that much. The second one was better, but I can't do the accent, Daniel Craig's accent. I'm over it. Okay. I feel like we're at a point where it's been brought down to a level of being rated appropriately. But it took some work.

Yeah. I guess I just feel like everyone was kind of freaking out about this last one. And especially the first one, everyone like kind of. And I just don't. I guess the mystery is not good enough for me. Everyone really liked the first one. I feel like it was really hot and cold on the second one. A lot of people hated the second one.

Oh, they did? I feel like I saw a lot of people loving it. And I liked it. And I felt stupid for liking it. Don't! Who cares? Yeah, don't give a shit. No one gives a shit what you think, Jack.

Great shame. Yeah. But I've done a lot of work in therapy, and I'm coming out and saying I like glass onion I liked glass onion and knives out murder mystery that's great I guess I just know it's like I guess I'm just like okay fine this is gonna be something they're making forever now I guess we're at least gonna see one more of these if not oh is that a lot I didn't even see that I fell asleep on a plane watching the first one. Well, there's going to be more.

That's all I can tell you. Am I missing something? Because I feel like everybody was so turnt up for Glass Onion at the end of the last year. That's what I mean. I don't know. Everyone's obsessed with it. Around people I knew, yeah. I don't know. I guess it's one of those things like, hey, did you see it?

I was at a Christmas party and everybody everybody was like did you go see it oh yeah i think it's just that there's so many things that are murder mystery murder mysteries now so many tv shows and like it's it's i feel like that that part of it is hard to pull off to be really like intriguing and really like surprise me so i think that that part, I'm like, that's tough to kind of make interesting, and that's kind of what I don't like about it. Got it. What's something you think is underrated? My cats.

My cats are underrated, I think. Okay. Yeah. What's your cat's called? Cindy and Archie. They're sitting right here. They're cool. Oh, Cindy and Archie.

I just want to shout out to them. How long you had them? A few years. Cindy's younger than Archie. He's a big boy. right here they're cool oh cindy and archie i just want to shout shout out to them how long you had them a few years cindy's younger than archie he's a big boy oh okay how many how many cans how many cans are we on how many cans i this i there was my friend cat sat for a cat that had two full cans of cat food per meal so ate four cans of cat food per day holy shit no we don't get them that much yeah and this this cat was like an abomination i remember being like this is fucking abuse like yeah that's like if they're sometimes it's like what are you doing this is like not good for the cat they're like well they they just like to eat that much and i'm like you are in charge of the

of the giving of the food and they like the cat was like declawed too so like when like hungry, it was just like bat the door like in this like very percussive way. But there were no claws. I'm like, this is like has torture just spelled all over it. Oh, no. There's nothing worse than like being around people who are kind of like not treating their pets well. There's nothing worse than that. There's nothing worse. The worst thing on earth, thank you, is someone who buys a dog from a puppy mill.

Anyway, yeah, just shout out to them. They're cool. They support me. Are they named for anything in particular? Cindy's named after Cindy Crawford because she has a little mole right there. And she's a little model. Okay. And Archie's a redhead, so I named him after Archie Comics.

Oh, okay. Oh, okay. I'm a little weird. My first crush was Sidney Crawford, because I'm a freak. Whoa, that's an alternative taste. I thought she was very pretty. And that was before the Pepsi.

Sicko mode over here. Is she Pepsi or Diet Coke? She was Diet Coke. Pepsi. Pepsi girl all the way. Was she Pepsi? Just straight Coke? Pepsi. Was she Pepsi just straight up? She was claiming she drank full sugar?

I don't know if she was Pepsi or Diet Pepsi, but she was definitely Pepsi. Wow. Oh, yeah, man. I was definitely alt too, Jack. I was alt AF in 1992 when this came out. Oh, yeah. The cutoff shorts.

Wow, she's drinking a soda by a convertible? Full sugar Pepsi. Full sugar Pepsi. She had a spit bucket right next to her. Not my queen, Cindy. She downed every single can, every take.

What a time when people drank Pepsi, you know? What do you mean? It's so gross. I drank Pepsi when I was like eight. I remember coming back from like a baseball practice, you know, it was like the summer and I was so thirsty. And instead of drinking water, I just drank like three cans of Pepsi. People do drink that when they're just thirsty like i find myself sometimes and i'm like what the fuck am i doing i should not get very i mean the fact that i

remember it like have a sense of memory of it you know it's a it's it works was it your brand you know it's more even even stupider lit think it lit up all the, like, cocaine sensors in my brain, probably. I didn't, like, when the Bloods and Crips, like, real, like, you know, gang war was real serious in L.A. I was, like, at the time, I was always looking at my clothes as a kid, even though I wasn't living near that shit. I was like, oh, what color do I like more? And in my mind, I'm like, I'm a crip. I'm like, I like blue. my mind i'm like i'm a crit i'm like i like blue so then when pepsi when pepsi came out in the blue can i was all over that shit because i was like miss me with that fucking red can even though

there was like a little bit of red on the pepsi kit i don't know why and like that was driving my subconscious push towards pepsi as a kid and then very quickly i was like this is whoa that's fascinating yeah just i was just remembering that right now because in this picture of cindy crawford it's like the old school red can with like the blue and uh red on it but then in my mind i was like no i was downing those blue cans i remember like a fucking fiend yeah and it was all because of my perceived allegiance during a gang war i hope that yeah i hope fake allegiances. Yeah. Yeah. And then I think it was just more fashionable.

I was like, well, I guess Snoop is and schoolboy Q. All my favorite rappers are. Yeah. All right.

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that prisoners may donate their organs while incarcerated, but only to immediate family members. In 2013, the state of Utah allowed organ donation from prisoners who died while being incarcerated. Most other states do not allow organ donations from prisoners at all. Enter the Massachusetts Democrats of their state legislature. They have just introduced a bill with five co-sponsors that want to make this little change here. It says, quote, but not more than a 365 day reduction in the length of their committed sentence in prison on the condition that the incarcerated individual has donated bone marrow or organs. So by just treating the prison system, God, like an organ, a body farm as an organ farm.

Wait, how many organs can you give without that? Like you can actually give while you're still alive. Well, I mean, if you die too, I mean, like a lot can be, I mean. But that's what I'm saying. If they're, if they're making your sentence less, you have to obviously live. So bone marrow, you could probably, you know, you can, you can don't. And then like a kidney.

Yeah. So like, there's not that much. I'm just saying there's not. Right. Can't give a heart. I'm pretty sure. One eyeball. I don't know.

But that's the thing it's like it's like so wild right because it's essentially like hey disenfranchised person now that you're here as a result of you know you know improper legal counsel want to knock a couple months off your sentence by giving us your bone juice give us your bones i want them bones and so like when the you know when people were asking the legislators who wrote this bill like what is like what huh why they're they're pointing to the disparity in availability for bipoc patients in need of a bone marrow or organ transplant so and that's the justification that they're giving for something like many people say this program is on its face legally dubious

and unethical as fuck right but like democrats don't even have the fucking imagination to think of a solution beyond to take the prisoners bodies like if there's a disparity and a lack of like access address that right yeah the fact that your first thought when you hear that there is a disparity or a lack of availability for BIPOC patients is like, well, you know where there are a lot of BIPOC people

in prison. And you know what? They're probably pretty motivated to give up some of that sweet, sweet organ meat. And like one of the legislators, he actually said that he was was thinking of his friend who was like in need of a kidney. Wow. And couldn't get it and was having to go through dialysis.

And like that was this guy's light bulb moment. Wow. I do want to see this like Freaky friday movie though where they give the guy this kidney and then he like starts living the life of the of the guy who's in jail and has to you know like yeah body swap yeah what happened kidney swap yeah it's just so wild that for these people they're like well coercion is better is basically easier than tackling a systemic issue. Right. Like, well, yeah, that's coercion.

What it comes down to. Yeah. It's just it's just such a painfully like obvious depiction on how like even Democrats like how their thinking works when they're trying to make the country a better place or more equitable, which is like, well, these people like are fucking like they're in jail. And yeah, like give them like they're in jail man yeah like give them a like give them an organ coupon so they can leave early that it's just so fucked up that is like you said it's so dystopian yeah it should just be we need to address this disparity like

there's we have terrible health outcomes maybe go after why people are in need of like increased treatments and things like that rather than where there's some brown bodies lying around that have like ticking hearts yeah it's that yeah it's the the technocrat like version of things like there's always going to be a smart solution we're smart and we'll just use our smarts to smart up a solution that takes a little resource from here and puts a resource there without like addressing the overall systemic inequality that's happening. That's that's made things so fucked. Also, why aren't they weren't people allowed to donate their organs like if they're incarcerated? It's just it's such a weird. In the first place, if you were like on your card

when you you know if you die you're like i want my organs donated they're not even allowed to say yes to that i think i think it probably is to prevent something like this where because they are human beings who have very little rights right yeah they and like by definition have very little rights like they could easily be taken advantage of. Right. So I'm assuming they have the law in place to be like and we recognize that. makes it a crime to quote knowingly acquire receive or otherwise transfer any human organ for valuable consideration for use in human transplantation so like there's i'm sure there's that's why it gets a little murky when you deal with incarcerated people and like what they are consenting to or not right of course and then other people point to also like just the health disparities that are are in prison populations like like people dealing with hepatitis or HIV AIDS and things like that. There's also

issues within the prison system where people aren't getting proper treatment for, in general, being healthy. That's their con in the pros and cons. It's like, yeah, but they have diseases, so never mind. They shouldn't have diseases, guys.

This is a fucking disaster. Another reason why it's like, yeah, they're not taking care of the root problem. And this makes no sense. Yeah. It's just like, I mean,

and the other thing too is like, you know, suppose someone is so desperate, right? To like get out to like be free. Right. They give up an organ that a relative may have needed down the road and they're like i fucking gave mine up because they fuck you know what i mean like like just this is so fucking complicated

but also just so immoral and like the idea that like even try and evoke like this lack of access to make this like a reasonable or rational thing to suggest. This fucking blows my mind when it could just be, Oh, there's a problem with equity and access for BIPOC people in the medical space, because we've known about this forever, but they're also,

we've also known about like this, you know, trend, not trend, but tradition of experimenting on black and Brown bodies in this country, in like people that are incarcerated or otherwise yeah so it's like there's no there's nothing about this that is like a departure from like america's worst habits or like impulses or instincts yeah the most like neolib brain thing i heard prior to this was maddie glacius did you see like in response to the Tyree Nichols

video was like we should do a police for America program where we have like students from the best universities volunteer to be parts of the police force like we did for teach for America like that we fix

the problem by like just Harvard ring up the police force a little bit is just like these motherfuckers they're it's yeah i don't know there's no yeah well possible no well because no one's willing to admit it's a failure right you know that's if you can then you can start over but if policing isn't a failure if the carceral system isn't a failure then it's all about it's all about amending it. It's all about finding ways to use it. Yeah. Rather than be like, yo, this shit is a fucking shining L in our faces.

Yeah. And it's a failure. And we talked the other day about just how little crimes police are even able to solve. But like, yeah, we still live under this presumption that like that's what they're there for to keep us safe. And rather than being like, no, the statistics to me seem like this is a failure. Like this this way of trying to, you know, keep people safe is an actual failure. But we're not you know, there's not a critical mass. Right. Like you said, a shining L. I feel like that's what they should see. Like that should just be placed in front, placed on everyone's like doorstep that keeps thinking this is going like the system we should use.

It's just an actual shining L to be like, this is a... It's an L. We lost. We lost. We fucked up. Let's start over. You don't have to be mad at the police, but just admit that this shit is a failure. We got to move on.

Put that energy now into whatever this you know a better way to support people is yeah because brute squad ain't it well we gotta we gotta always just really pay attention and savor each shining l that comes from the carceral system because they're few and far between oh wait here goes another one oh florida's wheel of fugitive Oh my God. A Florida sheriff is being sued for defamation to the tune of $50,000 by a man who is featured on Wheel of Fugitive. What is it? If you were wondering what the fuck Wheel of Fugitive is, it's the worst game show that you could imagine. It's Brevard County Police Department Sheriff Wayne Ivey spins a wheel depicting mugshots of supposedly wanted criminals the winner is then urged to do the right thing and turn themselves in or else the viewing public

will take matters into their own hands uh and this sheriff by the way is also like a big fan of like arming citizens and people like doing citizens arrests and shit, which are by the way, legal in Florida. Citizens arrest. Oh my God. Here,

we're going to play a little clip of fugitive. This is not real. I can't go on. Oh my God. All right. Look at this go on. Oh my God. All right. Look at this. Peace.

Hello, everyone. I'm Sheriff Wayne Ivey of the Brevard County Sheriff's Office. Welcome to Wheel of Fugitive. I love they have the runner. Everyone's considered innocent until proven. I know at the lower third, like running a chyron,

that's like your fucking rights. That's so... Subjects identified and discussed in this. Are they going to be like, are just running a scroll at the bottom? It's like, yeah, you need to disclaimer.

But these people are guilty. So proven guilty. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say in canon, we'll be using it. Like my rights are now coming in the form of a lower third. Let's see who our fugitive of the week is here in Brevard County. This is so insane.

Fuck. Speed up the wheel, will ya? I feel like I'm at a church carnival right now. Alright, folks. This is our Fugitive of the Week. White female, date of birth 12-5.

This shit is fucking what? Didn't they just show this person's white female date of birth 12 5 this shit is fucking what then they just show this person's face their date of birth all this other shit unbelievable it's so insane because also it what does it have to do with wheel fortune it's just exactly you're not right are you buying a letter yeah you're not doing anything they're just spinning a fucking wheel and then they're just saying, here are all the people. By the way, here's everyone's names, but this specific person, you should arrest if you see them on the street. You should

approach this person. Like, this is so insane. I can't believe this is real. Yeah. So the little disclaimer at the bottom is like, hey, we're not saying they're guilty. We're just saying that they are wanted at the time of this uh that this was wheel spinning filmed uh except that's not even true like so this person basically sued him because at the time that they recorded it he was already in

prison and then it he like goes on this viral video that this motherfucker is making and like can't get a job like he got let go of by his job because somebody saw him on this like video that this motherfucker was like on the way to his first day of work and he gets a call saying yeah sorry saw you on this like that's so insanely fugitive yeah this guy is real piece of work he routinely urged the public to arm themselves should terrorists invade orlando i guess oh bragging that he's one of the most politically incorrect sheriffs in the country blamed the victims of the pulse nightclub shooting for not fighting back hard enough against their attacker. What?

And yeah, is now urging random people on the street to scour the street for so-called fugitives. Because again, in Florida, you can citizen the rest of them, which is, you know, so he's like,

he, he, so he was probably salty when like Sheriff Joe Arpaio was getting all the fucking oxygen in Arizona. Or he was inspired by when like sheriff joe arpaio was getting all the fucking oxygen in arizona or he was inspired by him right like that that's how i'm gonna do it better by having a complete just debase myself at every opportunity and show that i have no soul whatsoever yeah okay anyway so that's the person running that sheriff's department. I think like putting their picture on the wheel and just like spinning it is also like it plays into the cruelty of it all. Like it's like debasing to just have these like embarrassing mugshots on on their like people at their lowest moment and then just like spinning them around like and like toying with their fate and their their lives in a way that you know it's just

it is dumber and more evil than the society in robocop it's truly just so extreme yeah and by the way a and e was in talks with this motherfucker to bring Wheel of Fugitive to national television at some point. Weren't they, wasn't A&E doing, like, cops live and shit, too? Probably. Like, that they had to take down, yeah, Live PD. Live PD was on A&E. And also, like, at the beginning of this Wheel of Fugitive thing, they show each person individually. So it's like, they're still telling them to go after everybody you know what i mean because since they can do citizens they're on there

they're on they're all on there they say everyone's full name they show their picture so they make sure to show you every single person on there before they're like oh this is who we're going to zero in on but it's obvious that they're just like or screenshot this or screenshot this facebook video and you can look at all of them exactly if you so please yeah what would this tv show even be i guess oh just it doesn't matter i guess there are better production higher production value babs we saw it the guys on a shitty green screen the wheel could be digital or something we could do more augmented reality stuff and ar ar kind of thing. I think that's all it would do is just bring more fucking shine.

They would have that. Remember when CNN had the hologram or holographic versions of the people for the 2016 election? They would just have the mugshot rendered in 3D and you were

in studio with them. I was just imagining and also the people on the show would be like, oh, who are the worst people you can think of that want to be on a reality TV show? Now let's have them go out and arrest people. Right. Throw them out there. And then we get footage of like people just going out and trying to make it. That's what it would be, right?

Like it would definitely just be citizens like. Yeah. Hunting people down. Fun. Super fun fun doing their best tommy lee jones impression right a 2021 analysis of nearly a year's worth of episodes of wheel of fugitive found that nearly one-third of the 448 people featured in those episodes were not fugitives. Wow. So just like, I mean, it's like the local news, just a video designed to make society around you seem scarier than it actually is and make it seem like you're like surrounded. But they couldn't even like fill out a wheel with enough fugitives. Right.

Yeah, they didn't. There weren't enough fugitives for them to do it. Oh, well, that's on the production team. Yeah. For having, you know, making less options on the wheel. Yeah, you got to make different wheel sizes. Yeah, for the number of menu options for people you can pick off because they're fugitives.

Right, right. Wow. Well, it's, I mean, yeah yeah the a and e version would probably be fucking demonic click oh for sure we have full 3d renderings of people on an actual wheel and then he throws a knife and the one that hits on the hologram board is the one that's selected right i hope this guy wins this uh lawsuit this fucking yeah i mean the other thing is that like they're going i i think the probably conscious gamble they're making is that the people they're slandering will never be able to stand up for themselves and

oh so like jokes about the amish kind of thing yeah yeah exactly they you, and in most cases, like one third of 448, I'm not great at math, but that's over a hundred people, you know, didn't, didn't catch that like this had happened to them or that it was like secretly out there, like ruining their job prospects. But what one person did, but, you know, it was probably a pretty, pretty safe gamble on his part. You know, those budgets could be going to something else. Yeah. You know, then buying the sheriff a fucking AV setup so he could do green screen graphics. I got this crazy idea, man. You ever seen Wheel of Fortune? Yeah.

Well, I haven't. But I figure there's gotta be something where you spin a wheel, right? Take out all the words. Okay, no words. No words. Fuck spelling. It has nothing to do with Wheel of Fortune. Fuck spelling at all. I can't even spell fugitive right.

Fuck it all, man. Wheel of the fugitive that fucking sound like they someone had they had to record that yeah they multiple people in a space yelling out wheel of fugitive i can already see it like it's like the we are the world video right a lot of these fucking backwards people who are like, so when there's like wheel of fugitive, was that good? Phil? All right. And I,

V like comes in and he's like, no, again, it's like the Quincy Jones of it. Yeah. I want to hear your teeth gnashing. Yeah. So true piece of shit.

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oh my god oh dr phil also i've i like we just started with an exasperated mention of it and we all just kind of let that say we're like yeah fucking dr phil what fucking doctor comparison of Tommy Lee Jones and how cool he is in the movie the fugitive and how open he is to like what like what you know the truth and like being wrong and just that compared to the real

cops that we have well again that's how we were like told cops were yeah this is this is the reality. They're thoughtful. If they had to kill a guy, it's because they thought about it deeply. It's part of their character arc. Right. They didn't arrive at this moment lightly.

He says he doesn't care if he killed his wife, but he actually does. And that's what's cool about him. All right. Dr. Phil, who, as we've mentioned before, is not a licensed psychologist, is ending his show in which he's acted as if he's a licensed psychologist for 21 seasons so you know breathe a sigh of relief except it's not really ending reruns are going to be syndicated with new wraparound material filmed with dr phil through at least the 2023 2024 season i'm surprised I'm surprised they even break this

show into seasons. Like ours? Yeah, exactly. I'm surprised. I guess, let's call it a season. He also hosts two podcasts, is the producer of several other TV shows, and is

now hinting at a new TV endeavor that will allow him to engage with a broader audience because I have grave concerns for the American family. Oh, my God. This guy is such a fucking creep. Like, I used to when it came out, I love the show because I had no empathy and I had no lived experience. And I liked a show where I could laugh at people who were down and out.

Yeah. And Dr. Phil would be like, what now? Like you're addicted to, you're addicted to drugs because of your tormented childhood. Now I live in the real world, son. And you're like,

if you were like, yeah, and I'm like, exactly. And it's like such a fucked up way to even portray like what help is or what a fucking therapy or a psychologist or any of that shit is because at the end of the day you go and you get they point at you and laugh like is really what it or get or they gawk at you i still i can't believe he's still on like how i don't even know he was still on the air how's

this still going yeah god i wonder if there are people who are like, I don't want to try therapy. I've seen Dr. Phil. I've never missed an episode. I know how that shit goes. I'm going to be just berated by a studio. You'd be surprised how many people come on the show and they say, Dr. Phil, I know what you're going to say. I watch the show all the time. I'm enabling my child.

Right. And they're like, and I know that. And then they're like, well, I know what you're going to say. I watch the show all the time. I'm enabling my child. Right. Like, and they're like, and I know that. And then they're like, well, then what are you doing? But there are people, you know, because they even tell Dr. Phil, like, my life's in shambles. I watch your show every day and I can I can say these buzzwords and I still can't get anything out of value from it. Yeah, right. So he's like, all right, well, let me tell you in person. I live in the real world.

I love that. He's always. Well, this is the real world. she comes on the show like dr phil is like just talks down to her the whole time and she had like a lot of trauma in her past and he like lists it all like on a like on a fucking graphic and you're like dude this is really like to even write this shit out is like feels very fucked up and then and then he'll do stuff where she'll be like well i don't want my mom my birth mother here like we have no context for why she wouldn't want the birth mother he's like well this is my show so do you want to go and she's like no no dr phil i'm sorry i'm sorry he's like that's what i thought because i decide who's on my show and you're like what you're not even helping this person you don't live in the real world motherfucker you live in like

the weirdest little microcosm where you are like the god emperor who gets to determine everything and just like pass judgment on people in a way that does not exist anywhere else like you are you are a sick fuck no you're like an uber rich person who comes down out of their little tower to get to get grossed out yell at people yeah and you're like oh what's wrong with you fucking creeps man i gotta go in my bentley helicopter goodbye like he really did there's look so i have this weird i'll check in with the dr phil episode every now and then because like on youtube it'll have like the most salacious hook where you're like this is not offering humanity to the subject of this episode at all and it's like like, you know, it's like,

it's wild to me. So I'll look, there was this one like elderly woman who was like a terrible, like a nightmarish grandma, basically her mother-in-law and come to find out, like he pulls out all this terrible, all these terrible things that have happened to this woman. And then they get to the end of the episode and you think he's going to

offer her some kind of insight and goes, Hey, so you know what? This is my suggestion for you is that you, you start going to offer her some kind of insight and goes, hey, so you know what? This is my suggestion for you. You start going to therapy. You know why? Because you got a lot of stuff messed up right now. And that's going to do it this week for us, folks.

Check us out on Facebook.com slash Dr. Phil. That's the end of an episode. And you're like, this has no fucking value. I mean, to be fair, I hope he's doing that to everyone who comes on the show. Right. Yeah, he does.

They don't need him. No, exactly. But it's just so weird when like, even as a, as an audience member. Have you tried therapy? I'm just going to go,

cause you're pretty messed up. And you're like, that's not a thing to say to someone who needs therapy. No. you've assessed this need to help and go, yeah, cause you're pretty fucked up. And that's me. That's Dr. Phil. All right, folks. Applause. Lights on.

I hope this didn't mess anything up for you. I feel like all of his power lies in his mustache. I feel like if we could get the mustache, he would be bereft. Yeah, he would not. He would look strange. I mean, that mustache is conspicuous and

precisely where it needs to hold his face together oh my god no yeah oh yeah he did drop he looks like rudy giuliani's like bully brother without a mustache in this picture yeah his face just kind of yeah i don't i don't like it i will will not allow it. He's also the creator and producer of multiple scripted dramas, including Bull? What is Bull on?

I feel like I heard of it. It had to have been on CBS, right? Because I'd imagine he just had an overall deal with CBS. It was like a CBS nighttime scripted series. I remember there was like all sorts of problematic shit with like how the star was treating women co-stars, but it was a drama. So I didn't quite get like what it was. It was like Bull is like takes no crap from anyone. He's just so like he's like a human lie detector who tells it like it is and that is supposed to be inspired by the early career of dr phil mcgraw yeah but he's a try it's a trial consulting firm yeah he like consults with true yeah with with lawyers

to be like i'll tell you how it is he's like the trial science guy's like you want you want a jury who thinks like this who thinks these people aren't even human that's how you get your that's how you get your client off like it's that kind of stuff like you know trial science there's this interview where like people are asking him he the way he pats him his fucking self on the back is absurd like he was talking about this show like a critics choice or something panel and he said the show was never he said quote it's not autobiographical autobiographical it's just inspired by me and then he goes on to say i like the way the show tracks how we did the right thing and tried to take the higher moral ground in these cases we kept the

moral compass sometimes the law doesn't always get it right and i'm like oh sir oh so you're you're the person there to write the wrong person turns out yeah so it turns out you're like and that's me some the guy who knew more than the legal system shout out bull stars michael weatherly as dr jason bull a plus on the name in a drama inspired by the early career of Dr. Phil McGraw, the founder of one of the most prolific trial consulting firms of all time. Brilliant, brash, and charming, Dr. Bull is the ultimate puppet master as he combines psychology, human intuition, and high-tech data to learn what makes jurors, attorneys, witnesses,

and the accused tick. I i mean that guy seems like the ultimate puppet master oh yeah i mean have you heard about his his onset behavior is he a monster oh yeah yeah michael weatherly yeah yeah he was like that yeah because i think this was when eliza dushku was on the show and he was like this guy's making lewd comments and shit and that she settled with cbs for like nine and aku was on the show and he was like, this guy's making lewd comments and shit. And then she settled with CBS for like nine and a half million. Yeah, he was like part of the investigation of the CBS, which. So cool.

So that guy's playing Dr. Phil's parallel analogous character. And then he also produces the show The Doctors, which I wasn't aware of, but I think it's like a daytime sort of chat show it's basically like an offshoot of his yeah dr phil with real doctors he was like what if the doctor show had real doctors instead of me i will say dr phil also made an appearance back in the day when britney was put into her conservatorship he He showed up to the hospital that weekend. What's your take on him during that period? Was he like, do you think he was being opportunistic? Probably. Apparently he was

like friends with the parents and that's why he showed up. Yeah, which makes a lot of sense. Because you look at the way he treats younger people who are struggling mentally. It's always this patronizing boomer shit. It like well here's the deal son i got bills to pay so i pay them i don't care if i was in the iraq war like you're like what it's just like what the

fuck is this like it's not even advice but it's just so it's just so dismissive of everything which makes that completely tracks now, because they're probably looking for somebody who would confirm that their worst urges are the correct ones. We just need to imprison her, right? Exactly. That's basically what was going on, yeah. I can get you lithium if you want me. You need lithium.

I'll get you lithium. What? I have half my fortune tied up in those teenage camps where you kidnap your own child and send them to a wilderness camp and try and break down their personality. That's where most of my money is tied up. Whatever you need. I also got laudanum, too. I know they don't really make that.

I got a lot of laudanum. He's just a drug dealer. He's also the producer of that show, The Doctors, which was recently levied with a human rights complaint alleging race discrimination, sexual harassment and retaliation behind the scenes. Yeah. The New York State Division of Human Rights and U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission received a complaint alleging race discrimination, sexual harassment and retaliation. and retaliation and like i said basically somebody was fired for suggesting that the show needed more diversity among the staff and guests and they were informed of their uh being released or their agent was informed of their being released by mcgraw's son jay mcgraw who owns the show and los ang Angeles based stage 29 productions. All right. So I bet that's a cool place to work.

Well, I live in the real world where it's all white people. So my son runs a studio that I bequeathed him based on made up stories about when I was a magical man who could tell jurors who was lying. I live in the real world. The real world. Understand? My son built this production company from the top down. I will not be here to hear his name slandered. That's right.

I live in the real world. I live in the real world. He says that all the time. It's fucking wild. There's some really good cutting commentary videos on YouTube just pointing out how at every turn he makes the absolute world. If you're actually trying to help someone or talk to them and not just make salacious TV,

he always picks those. I feel like he just, to me, has ultimate dad energy. Maybe that's because my dad slightly looks like him. But just, yeah. that does patronizing. Like, for some reason, people are just like, yeah, OK, right. You're telling me what to do. I must do it. I think it's really what's really dark about it is that, like, he because he's using, like, psychology speak and therapy speak.

Right. The presumption is that he's actually approaching this with some kind of empathy or caring or because he goes by dr phil yeah exclusively and you get there he'd be like shut the fuck up you ain't arguing with me not on my fucking sit not today motherfucker i'm dr phil you know the show don't stop for a hoe okay like that's his energy with these people and right it's like it's truly maddening when you like, just kind of, you kind of see like these people go on, they're like,

yeah, maybe this will help. And then at the end, it's just like, well, you're messed up in all these ways and you need a dog. And shout out to North star kennels who are going to gift you your own. Okay.

I'm actually, I'm down with this advice. You need a dog. But yeah, the best is when you'll hear all this complex shit and he just ends it with damn, you're pretty messed up. You need to go therapy. North Star Kennels,

owned by the McGraw family, and run by teenage labor of teenagers we've kidnapped and put into scared straight wilderness or what you do is hey is your teen acting up we'll send them to my north star uh teen camp where we'll get them right but they're really just laborers that is yeah that is a whole industry but i don't know how much we talked about on this show but it's it's like they if you have a kid that's acting bad, like parents will reach out and basically do what Britney Spears' parents did.

Just like get it off, off your hands, kidnap them, take them away. There's tons of those. There's like, you know, pregnancy equivalent ones too. Yeah, that's right. Jesus. Yeah, that wilderness camp, that is a huge industry. I remember that when I was growing up. I feel like dr phil's

gotta be gotta be involved oh a thousand percent yeah because it is like just an extension of like your kid doesn't need like help he needs to be fucking screamed at while he's shivering cold on a mountainside right exactly like that tough love tough love yeah yeah because here's the thing i can't break the cycle i've been subjected to as a child. So all I can, and I'm not willing to even confront that. So the solution is to brutalize them. Yeah, that's right. Hey, kids, they got it too easy these days.

Hey, yeah. Not for us in the real world where our parents had PTSD from World War II and didn't have it figured out. Thank you. Thank you. Babs, such a pleasure having you, as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can follow me at BabsGrey on Twitter and Instagram and all that stuff.

And yeah, I'm out there. I'm going to be doing a lot of stand-up this year, so follow me and find me coming to your town, hopefully. Offer a dirty soda, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah, Babs abstinence is my sobriety podcast it comes out well every week sort of and lady to lady is my comedy podcast comes out every week on wednesdays yeah any surprises about abstinence or sobriety that um oh you know what sucks is my stand-up is a lot better in that like you're just so clear on stage and yeah i'm just like i'm very clear and like more

just sharper and all that stuff so i feel like i'm more tuned into the crowd like what was your what was your like pre-stage regimen to like uh i think like in the last year i can kind of been having like a drink or two or been like getting, you know, kind of like just been getting loose before my sets. And it was now I know where you kind of. Yeah. You take the stage kind of just like, yeah, I've got something to say. Yeah. Just kind of like to like loosen up.

But I was like getting too loose and just not being sharp. And now I can see a huge difference. And I'm like, oh, it's so annoying. I hate this for me. It's like I see everything. And now I can see a huge difference. And I'm like, Oh, so annoying. I hate this for me. It's like, I see everything now. Yes. I know all.

Yeah. Is there a tweet or some of the work of media that you've been enjoying? So, or otherwise, I mean, I was just going to say the last of us. Okay. That's not really,

that's, you know, a TV show. Let's get into it. I watched the whole video game. A video game I've never just watched before. I watched my boyfriend play it, and it was very good. And I'm, like, excited to see the show, which I was not expecting. You haven't watched it yet? I watched, like, the first few episodes.

Okay. It's great. Have you guys watched it? I'm banking them. Cause I'm, I really want my partner to watch, but like, it's easier when a show like that,

we can just keep going. Yeah, no, it's definitely one of those, but it's, it's, it's great. I mean,

I played the game too. And I'm like, if, and based on everyone's like, I've, you know, I slightly read how people are talking about each week i'm like oh boy it's a heavy lift i actually one of one of my tweets that i was gonna do was

at listen up nerds tweeted you will not get me to watch the walking dead for people who still do wordle that's hilarious yeah but i am gonna watch the shit out of that actually yeah I'm not over like zombie stuff yet so I guess I'll always have zombies in my heart you know always it's a problem actually you should consult your doctor if you also

have whatever you cannot donate your organs if a zombie is in your heart you'll see we'll see it'll be a Supreme Court case. Taking it all the way to the top. Miles, where can people find you? And what is the tweet or work of media you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

Also find me on Miles and Jack on Mad Boosties. New episode just dropped. And also 420 Day Fiance. This might be my last episode before I go on parental leave. I think it's so close. It's like within the next two days. Oh, that's exciting. Yes.

To say that I'm distracted is an understatement. But I still, you know, when I have the time, I'm coming back. But yeah, so thank you for everybody for all your well wishes and your wonderful DMs and tweets and comments and stuff. I feel very loved and supported as I go into this, so it means a lot.

And please continue to listen to the show. I will be back, and I will be daddy then, and my takes will be who knows where I am did you come back i come back i'm so even daddier even daddier yeah the daily is like guys now twice as daddy and i'm just like fully on some dr phil shit i'm like jack i live in the real world and we're not worried about stuff like systemic white supremacy because we got bills to pay a tweet i like is

from uh at gallant greg just tweeted oh my god i just got that tar is short for conductar in addition to the last of us tweet i like to to tweet from Lauren at notabigjerk tweeted, what's a performance where the actor is so when he does the performance for that it's no one to do? I think that is the last one. I think we're good. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a

website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy? Okay, so let's, you know, it's Black History Month, and I want to play this track, one of my favorite tracks from Eddie Kendrick when he, you know, he's on his solo shit for Left of Supremes, and it's called My People, Hold On. And if you know Jay Dilla, you know, he sampled this in Donuts on the track People,

but the original track is just really dope and just a very, you know, got great energy. So put this in your ears. Eddie Kenner, my people. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. That's going to do it for us this morning we're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to you all then bye

i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline

from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do,

like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.