The Daily Zeitgeist - Private Equity Ruined Fire Trucks, Shark Jesus? 01.29.25

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

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A lot of people have made that comparison before. I should and would rip them off like Hulk Hogan in the sense that it would take me 45 to 50 seconds to rip them off and it would look shitty. It would look really, really unimpressive. Reveal more sleeves underneath too. Yeah, everyone would. Just more sleeves all the way down. The snap sleeves. It's sleeves all the way down. More sleeves all the way down. The snap sleeves. It's sleeves all the way down.

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My name is Jack O'Brien, aka. If you're starting communes, there are lessons, my son. You don't want to be wake up midsummer act one. Hit me. That is courtesy of Halcyon Salad in reference to 99 Problems. And also, my kids really have fond memories anytime we're at a big group thing, where we just hang out with a bunch of people. And I'm suggesting that the children may, in fact, crave the communes after all. They might want to be back in more of a tribal setting than just

like single-family homes. I remember that from when I was a kid too. I'm just like, get me out of here. Get me out of this house. I would rather be in a stranger's house. I will do a sleepover at the house of a person who I don't care for, just to be like in with other people. You know? Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest co-host, very funny stand-up comedian, writer, actor, improviser, biomedical engineer. It's Pala V. Gunaliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiii i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i Hey guys, it's me Myles actually. Oh my god.

That is such a good impression. I don't know how to do a muscle press. Are people getting mad at you for being here? Like because Myles is still- Somebody did suggest I did burn down his house. And you know what? You've never seen me and Myles's house in the same space. So maybe I did.

We're going to talk about who did. And it's not policy. That would be an amazing fucking plot twist. Like that would be a Howie Mandel podcast level plot twist if we had you on and then had a story in which we revealed that you in fact were responsible for the Los Angeles fires, but no spoiler alert, it was private equity once again. Did everybody see the Howie Mandel podcast clip of Bill Burr

and Billy Corrigan? No. No, that sounds fun though. Let's introduce our guest and then I want to tell the story just because it's, I think a lot of people have seen it and I don't think anybody knows what to make, like if it's a bit or not. But first, Pallavi, once again, this is a pairing we like so much that you guys guessed it and it's appeared. It's in my writer. It's my contract. Yeah, I need at least every other to be this guest. In our third seat, the creator of Red Dot Comics, you can go to Patreon right now to gain access

to her tastefully inappropriate work. Please welcome back to the show, it's Kim Winder! Hey, AKA the carpet matches the drapes because I die both. That's how it's done. I asked for help for an AKA this morning. That was the best I got. That was good. Well done to whoever helped you. Did I say who helped me online? I forgot your name.

That that was Housion Salad. Shout out to Housion Salad in the AK Discord doing the Lord's work. The Lord's work. This is a podcast about Christ and His good works. asked about Christ and his good works and how we see them there. I mean, after the fires, if we didn't shift hard to praising the Lord. I keep trying to do a joke in standup about how the fires happen because I'm just so gay and nobody likes it. Nobody wants to hear that. Nobody wants to hear how gay I am. Except that one guy who- I'm like in a cool way.

Except that one guy who was on the local news being like, why is there those fires though? I think it's because people are gay. Anyways, that guy, true hero. The Howie Mandel podcast is, he has Bill Burr on, seems like it's very standard, comedian interviewing, comedian podcast. Then Billy Corrigan shows up.

And suddenly Bill Burr is like, I knew you were going to fucking do this. Rather than being like, oh, Billy Corrigan, lead singer of The Smashing Pumpkins. That's cool. He's like, oh, Jesus Christ. I'm like, oh, okay, they have history. And do they ever? It's revealed over the course of the interview that there's a suspicion that they have the same father that like Bill Burr's father was a

traveling salesman and they, he was smashing those pumpkins across the great nation and they're so funny and mean about it. It's just like, do you ever think that maybe, like I don't talk about this all the time because I don't want to, but Howie Mandel is a complete, he's just like, what, what's wrong? I'm just playing dumb.

Billy Corrigan seems very uncomfortable, but yeah, they're like, yeah, we think he named us both Bill so he wouldn't like get us mixed up and wouldn't. Wow. Yeah. Wait, is that like a legit? That's the question that everybody asks right away.

I've found both. I've found people being like, well, you can see on Twitter or you can see on Wikipedia that like Billy Corgan's dad is a different name or something like that, but just the way it's played, like it feels like a weird, if it's a bit, it's like a Bill, the first Bill Burr bit that I've ever been like, huh, you know, like usually. Yeah. Like didn't get that it was a bit.

Yeah. Well, Billy Corgan is one year older than Bill Burr, so that's his big bro, dude. Hey, big brother. He just immediately started, Billy Corgan's a big Cubs fan, and he just immediately started shitting on the Cubs, which, again, Bill Burr is on a roll.

Guy cannot do any wrong in my book. Oh, what are you gonna say, Kim? Oh, they just need to take a 23 and me. Just do it on him. I know. I know. I was like, why didn't howie, like, I know he's like a germaphobe, but just like grab one of the mugs they drink out of. Come on, man.

Exactly. Exactly. Do the detective work, man. This is what you do. You should, you, okay, you set that situation up. Yes, it's uncomfortable. If you were a true showman who had learned the lesson of deal or no deal and the importance of a big reveal, you have a model standing with a briefcase nearby.

You say, actually, the last time you were both on, I did snag your coffee cups and sent them to 23andMe, and in that briefcase, I have the answer, are you or are you not brothers? And then, you know, that, that'scase, I have the answer, are you or are you not brothers? And then, you know, that's entertainment, baby. That's prestige casting, to quote Anna Hosnié in a way that she's gonna be very mad about. But that would have been something. So my overall takeaway,

I don't know if it's like been factually proven, if it's just a suspicion that Bill Burr would just rather not like look into or talk about. My main takeaway is Howie Mandel is a bigger asshole than I was giving him credit for, for doing that. But... That was so funny. And it's also like, who has the balls to piss off Bill Burr? I know. You know?

I know. Right? Who genuinely would do that to him? While recording too. There's no taking it back. I know. There's no what? Taking it back. If you're recording with Bill Burr, that's there forever.

Yeah. Everybody, a lot of people are going to watch this and he knew that, and that's probably why he did it, to launch the Howie cast or whatever the fuck his podcast is called. Anyways, Kim, it's wonderful having you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. By bringing out your long lost sibling. English.

Shit, Bill Burr. Yeah, also Bill Burr. Still Bill Burr. His dad was fuckin'. All right, we're gonna talk, we're gonna do a speed run through some stories here, but we've got one that I feel like we need to take our time with up top.

This investigation from Matt Stoller in the newsletter Big, not connected to the 80s comedy about a woman who inadvertently becomes a sex offender due to carnival magic, but it's just the big newsletter where he looks into the relationship between private equity and the Los Angeles fires. Private equity is a cancer on this country, is making crippling a lot of our society. And, you know, we've been talking about it for a while and sure enough, their fingerprints were all over what happened in LA. So we'll talk about that. Well, I mean, the Trumps, like as with the first administration,

more so than the first administration, it's just a fucking fire hose of bad shit. Whoa, fire hose? Yes, a fire hose that this fire hose was not purchased and made to cost a million dollars by private equity, unlike the fire hoses in Los Angeles, but just a nonstop fire hose of bullshit. So we'll just, we'll try and just speed run through a handful of the latest things, such as the pause on spending, which we talked about a little bit on yesterday's trending. His like trade war with Columbia, which he spelled with a U instead of, he spelled it like Columbia university in, in the executive like statement. But also went through with it and just stopped trading with Columbia university.

Columbia university. He's like, no, no, that's what we met because of the protests or whatever. I actually, this was the first time that I learned that they're spelled differently, so I'm a fucking idiot, but you know, I'm also not the president. I don't have a presidential cabinet of people, you know, fact checking or spell checking. Hey Jack, you're my president.

Oh my God, thank you so much, Polly. I've been waiting for somebody to say that to me. I'm just trying to keep this job. Oh no, this is the way shit is right now. You just got to tell people they're your president, to keep your job. We'll tell the doomsday clock to fuck off, because it keeps coming with needless updates. We'll talk about a shark that gave virgin birth. A bunch of shit. All of that. Plenty more.

But first, Kim, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Bath pillows. I like taking bubble baths and my neck hurts and I want a pillow. Okay, and how are we achieving this? Is it with a giant sponge? Right now, it's just a folded up towel

that gets really wet and then it's just annoying to deal with afterwards and I just want to relax. So I looked up just like bath pillows, but they suck. So I'm going with a pool toy and I'm just going to have that behind my neck. Pool toy is a good idea. Yeah. Keep it whimsical. Keep it fun. Just like a rolled up. That's what Gandalf said. Keep it whimsical. Keep it fun.

Keep it fun. Frodo, my first advice to you. Keep it whimsical. Keep it fun. Frodo, my first advice to you, keep it whimsical, keep it fun. Keep it fun. That's right. Yeah, I was going to say like a pool noodle just rolled up cinnabon style, you know? Oh my gosh. I would be so worried about it just bursting out.

Yeah. I feel like you can just get like a baby floaty, you know, like a kid's. Exactly. Like, wouldn't a tub thing or tube things? You're still my president, Jack. Thank you. And see, I'm the type of president who can listen to conflicting opinions, but then I will censure you later and cut off funding for you later on. Yeah, cold bath.

Great. opinions, but then I will censure you later and cut off funding for you later on. Yeah, cold bath. Great. Kim, I can't do baths. I can't. What? I can't do, because I'm like, the tub needs to be, it's always like not clean enough for me so that I'm thinking about laying in the, you know what I mean? And then I'm like, you could wash it before, you could wash it after, but now that's more prep, you know what I mean? So that I'm not relaxed getting into it.

I prefer getting into like a shower that's so hot, your boyfriend thinks something's wrong with you, and then just falling asleep, standing upright. Like, that is my version of relaxing in the shower. Have you had a shower beer? A shower what? Beer, a shower beer. So, long day at work. Unfortunately, I don't have regular beers, but that sounds amazing.

Oh my God, extra relaxation right there. You don't do in a bathtub because you'll drown and die, but if you drink in a shower, you'll just let it all go down the drain. You sound like such a wealthy woman right now. Yes, thank you. I'll go down the drain. You sound like such a wealthy woman right now. Yes, thank you. You make such a trick wealthy shower beers. That's what they don't want you to have. This is my shower champagne, honey.

That we don't serve to guests. You have a specific shower champagne cup? Yeah. I've definitely partaken in shower beers in the past. And it doesn't need to be beer. You can have a nice shower bev. I think I've found that the thing that I enjoy about the shower or beverage is like the contrast between the cold and the heat of the shower. It's kind of a nice thing.

We discussed a while back, a Reddit, there's I think an entire sub Reddit about shower oranges. Oranges? Yeah, just people who eat oranges in the shower. Specifically oranges? Yeah. And like at the time, it kind of made sense to me because you just let the peel fall on the ground, but peels are like easy to like peels for oranges. They like clean the shower. Yeah, they like make it smell good.

And then you also get that contrast of like cool juiciness mixed with hot shower vibes, hot shower energy. This is what we're coming up with while China is doing AI. Yeah. We're like shower organs. Cheap AI? Yeah. We need more shower food options.

Soup not working. Soup. No. Yeah. I think, I think it needs to be cold on hot personally. Like that's, that's what I'm looking for. Like you don't, you would want, definitely want a like cold Italian sub and not like a hot meatball sub in the.

Gaspacho. May go. Too much too wide of an opening. You're going to end up getting soap and shampoo. Yeah, it would water down. Yeah. In the shower. Like hair water is going to be in your Gaspacho. Yeah. There's like something.

It's like hermetically like the orange is like sealed off and so, you know it's not it's not like a Open open top, you know, there's something cool about an orange Yeah, maybe we should throw this one to AI to see what try a blue moon and an orange next time I shower Yeah Oh, wow. The combination. I'll get back to you guys. Yeah.

In a cup. Orange beer. Interesting. In a cup. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I'll try it warm and flat.

I'm gonna hit a Slurpee in there. As well as cold. Slurpee. Big blue raspberry Slurpee. But see, those have the dome top, so you're actually not gonna get as much hair water. Big risk, big reward, you know? I truly think shower slurpee is the answer. Like that is something that I do need to try now.

It's the cups are a problem. You would need to get the hard plastic ones because the paper ones I feel like are always on the verge of rotting out a little bit. Yeah. If I like find an old slurpee from earlier that day, the paper is starting to feel a little soft and like it's going to get out. Where are you finding old Slurpee? Like in a car. I leave it in the car because I don't want to bring it in and let my wife

and children see that I've like snuck a Slurpee. Yeah. But anyways, I really think shower Slurpee is going to be a thing. Yes. Yes. Addiction. Yeah, but anyways, I really think shower slurpee is gonna be a thing. Yes. Yes, well done. Kim, what is something you think's underrated? Slurpees.

Now that we're talking about it, totally different train of thought, but yeah, slurpees. I can't remember the last time I had one, but they're the shit when you do. Oh yeah. They're so good. Cherry and Coca-Cola all the way. Okay, what you do. Oh, yeah, they're so good cherry and coca-cola all the way Okay, I love the coca-cola ones, but I like blue raspberry

That's my raspberry is also a fan of those are good cherry the ones that are just such a wildly unnatural Color like they're the color of like fire retardant, you know I love like I love how when we were kids you could just walk around with your tongue know, it's like, it's like that. I love like, I love how when we were kids, you could just walk around with your tongue blue and everybody's like, oh, that's cute. And now as adults, it's like, dude, you're on God's love. Eat a salad, my guy. Do they still do free Slurpees on 7-Eleven?

They do, yeah. Oh my god. Damn it, I have a year. I can't bring myself to buy a Slurpee. But I will accept a Slurpee. They should have it also at 7-Eleven every day, two times in the morning and in the evening.

And just have a mad dash for one minute. I feel like that would be... Oh, like one minute of free Slurpees? One min free slurp Free slurp one men free slurp guys. Thank you for taking this meeting with me I'd like to tell you about my idea one men free slurp. Okay sharks What is something you think is overrated New Yorker cartoons, oh Come on.

They're so funny every time. Cartoon drama. I'm here for it. Give us a god. Not drama. I just feel like they're so picky. And when they do finally pick one, it's the joke that's been done already a billion times, probably by the same artist that submitted it five other times.

Right. They fall flat and they don't have color. Like you're not special without color. In your literary mag. Yeah. I want smut in my New Yorker. Yeah. Be a real New Yorker. Give me smut. Do they have a no smut,

like no sex, No swearing? Policy, uh Probably don't know because you're right all any that I've seen a lot of them are very basic like Observational jokes that have been like in the stand-up world for since the early 80s, but they're they're like through a filter like they have an Instagram filter of like twee upper crust New York person that they're like kind of filtered through. You know, so it's like a bunch of take my wife seriously type jokes, but with filtered

through the day to day life of somebody. Sex and the city-esque people. Yeah. The parents from gossip girls. Of the upper middle class. Yeah. Yeah. Damn.

The cartoon game. How's it going out there? You know what? They keep rejecting me, so that's why they're overrated. Fuck you, the New Yorker. Fuck you. Fuck you! You can't come up with shower slurpy and...

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or wherever you get podcasts. And we're back. And obviously a lot of factors contributed to this variety of the wildfires. We've talked about a few of them. We haven't talked about how private equity played a hand in making things way, way worse. So shout out to Matt Stoller, who is somebody that I wasn't fully up on pretty recently, but now his newsletter, Big, has been something I've been reading. I had another story on the doc for yesterday's training episode that was also one of the

main sources was his newsletter. So shout out to him. Again, not connected to the movie about a woman who becomes a sex offender due to carnival magic. It is just a politics newsletter. Well, then I don't want to read it. Exactly. What a strange premise for a movie. But he outlined how, so I guess he interviewed this antitrust lawyer who kind of outlined exactly how private equity was responsible for the LA Fire Department's depleted resources.

Specifically, a lot of people pointed out, as the fires were burning, there were all these LAFD fire trucks just out of service, just parked in fire truck parking lots. And people were obviously quick to blame the city's budget cuts, which rightly so, the city raised funding for the police, but not the fire departments as crime is falling and the danger of fire was getting higher and higher due to climate change. But the reason that that was especially damaging in the past couple of years is because the cost of fire trucks has skyrocketed from, it used to be like 300 to 500,000 for a pumper truck, 750 to 900,000 for a ladder truck. And now it's 1 million for a pumper and $2 million for a ladder truck, just

over the last couple of years. And that's- An extra thousand for the Dalmatian that goes with it. It's crazy what's happening out here. The price on the... They don't even come with sunroofs. But it's basically a private equity company went through, like we talked about this with, when we did our private equity, private equity episode about how private,

like ambulances used to be free. That used to be a thing that was just, you called an ambulance, they took you to the hospital and you didn't get like in the seventies. Fucking boomers had everything. Yeah. And then the private equity industry came through and was just like, no, we can make people pay for that. And a lot of times it's going to be their, a lot of times it's going to be

their insurance paying for it. So it's like, you know, nobody's going to be paying attention. So we can just like make people pay insane amounts of money. There's nothing equity about this. Yes, exactly. That the private equity is not a wildly accurate descriptor, I would say, for the industry. But yeah, first of all, not just fire trucks, all fire equipment increasing quickly in price. So this is happening as the budget is going down.

So even more reason to be frustrated that the budget went down. But just on how all of this was caused. A private equity firm called American Industrial Partners was buying up fire truck companies and forcing up prices across the board. So they bought like major, like all the companies that were competing with one another, rolled them up into a conglomerate called the REV Group, and then claimed that the companies would all continue

operating independently despite sharing the same owner. But of course, they did not and they punished people if they ever showed the slightest sign of being competitive with one another and then were able to charge whatever the fuck they wanted. So. I didn't even know that was possible. How dumb am I? I'm like everything is private equity now So I didn't even know that was possible. How dumb am I? I'm like, everything is private equity now. And I still didn't know that was possible. That fire trucks can be private equity. Yeah.

Everything can be private equity. Like it's the whole system is set up. Like I heard somebody, I think it was the Mexican president actually described the like neoliberalism and like our current, you our current system that we'd been operating under for the past, for our lifetime until fascism just took over. It was described as a system designed to redistribute wealth upward from poor people to corporations. And like the more you just look at how everything operates, that's exactly what is happening.

It's just massive companies with power coming in and just finding ways to make money out of nothing in ways that just kind of make our lives worse or more dangerous. They take over, you know, in our past private equity episodes, we've talked about how they've taken over prisons, they've taken over like the phones that people use in prison. They've like made those incredibly expensive because they know nobody's going to like feel bad for people in prison. So they just find any way that they can charge people a ton of money.

Pet care, veterinarian clinics have been taken over because they know that people are up against it and will pay anything to take care of their pets. And so they find a way to monetize that. I was even talking to a doctor recently who was talking about private equity. That's the reason a lot of doctors are quitting because they're sick of it. Because they don't have enough money to have their own practice, to avoid the kind of takeover that private equity is doing to hospitals. But they hate how they're just being forced to see like an insane number of patients per hour, which means they can't give those patients the proper care.

And then if they do stand up for patients, then they're more likely to be reprimanded or, you know, hurt their career in some way because of private equity taking over and requiring these quotas. Right. It's messed up. It is messed up. That's right. And even with the fire trucks, you can't even say burn it down because they're fire trucks. That's right. They're going to stop that. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Really good point, Polly V. Thank you. I got big brains. But yeah, it's like they would shut down plants. Like, so during the pandemic, federal funding kicked back up and people were hungry, you know, municipalities had funding for fire trucks. And as that was happening, they were just shutting down factories and then charging a shitload more for the fire trucks that they did sell because that's, yeah, they, they didn't have to be competitive, like not, this is also the thing, like you were seeing with Silicon Valley and like the tech industry and like this whole AI thing that

where they're like, wait a second, I thought we were the best at AI, right? And it's like, no, the entire tech industry, all of these, like, the things that have power, like all these forces of capital, are just designed to protect themselves and, like, create monopolies, preserve monopolies, accumulate capital, and, yeah, and gain political power so that they can continue to protect their monopolies.

So, monopoly, a game invented by a woman, stolen by a man, and then monetized. Invented by a woman that was about how monopolies are bad, and then stolen by a man and turned into a thing where you're like, I want to be the monopoly. But yeah, the Stoller article, he's like pointing out, it's like what we saw with Boeing, you know, it's what we're seeing with everything. It's companies get all this power, destroy all competition, and then proceed to do a worse job and make more and more money. So that's what you're seeing with the tech industry. And you're going to see the tech industry start being beaten pretty easily by other countries where this is not the case, but we're also seeing it everywhere private equity goes, which is everywhere in the United States.

And that's certainly not going to change under the fascist oligarchy that we now have incoming. So that's not good, I would say. Change the name of the podcast. I'm done. Just change it to that's not good. That's not good. That's not good. We'll say it all together. One, two, three. That's not good. Seems bad. Yeah, I don't know. That's not good. Seems bad.

Yeah, I don't know. That's just depressing. Can we 3D print fire trucks? How do we solve? What is it the Chinese AI called deep something? How do we do that? Deepseek. Deepseek.

There we go. We got to do something to... Didn't the LAPD get More funding this year though. Yeah, that's their budget always goes up. Yeah Their budget does go up. It's just so disheartening. I don't have much to say on it besides like this blows like Write a New Yorker cartoon about that bitch Yeah Write a New Yorker cartoon about that, bitch. Yeah. Disclose.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not great. So I don't know, private equity, obviously a huge problem that will, I don't know, it's been very clarifying for me and just like watching the news to be like, oh, yes, there's this hidden force that like is undergirding all of these things. It's just not none of the news really talks about it. You have to like go find the people who are allowed to tell the truth about it. And I think we also need to ostracize people in in regular job positions that are contributing to bad things happening in the world. Because I have a lot of friends in Silicon Valley and they are all like,

it's fine that I work for like this company or do this thing, like engineers and stuff that are just looking for stable jobs. It's like if if they don't have the labor force to like continue this awful cycle, then maybe like those people would work for better companies. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Maybe we could have power that way. So I do think that it's an individualistic country, but as individuals, we aren't making the best decisions either for the common good or even

for ourselves overall in the long term. Right. In the long term. I'm saying bully more. Bully people more. Right. Bully your friends more. Oh, you work at Raytheon, you bitch. Most of my friends do work at Raytheon, and I do think it's about time I said something to them about it. I'm not even kidding. A lot of my engineering friends go into the worst companies. Because that's who pays. kidding. Like a lot of my engineering friends go into like the worst companies. Right, because that's who pays. From undergrad because they're just because it's acceptable. It's like normal for them.

Or like consulting or Goldman Sachs or things. I know so many people who have done that. And it's because scientists and engineers and all of those people, they don't see the outcome until it's too late. Like it's not the technology hasn't caught up to the, or the ethics hasn't caught up to the technology. No, it hasn't. The ethics, it seems like there's not a ton of moral courage going around right now would be my overall read.

To be optimistic, I think a lot of people that go into these companies nowadays, like anyone that applies for Tesla, like obviously a passion for the engineering, the science, what it can do to help the environment, but also I can change, I can change them. Like I'll be the good and maybe my little goodness will help the bigger picture

because we are so individualistic, but then it just chips away at you and you lose the plot. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about some bullshit. We'll be right back. I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball. If only there were a professional WNBA player with her own podcast I could listen to.

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Consider this is a daily news podcast and lately the news is about a big question. How much can one guy change? What will change look like for energy? Drill, baby drill. Schools? Take the Department of Education, close it. Healthcare? Better and less expensive. Follow coverage of a changing country. Promises made, promises kept. We're gonna to keep our promises. On Consider This from NPR. Listen on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And just in case people saw the doomsday clock headline,

this is maybe like a little bit of not hopefulness, but a little bit of, don't worry too much about this one. The Doomsday Clock just got moved to 89 seconds to midnight, which is the closest to midnight since the introduction of the clock in 1947. It's like the countdown to nuclear Armageddon. They say it's due to the state of arms control treaties, active conflicts involving nuclear weapons, and widespread conspiracy theories.

I do just heading into this show, hosting this show, I assumed that it was somehow scientific. They always talk about how it's like the bulletin of the atomic scientists. And I assume there was some scientific reasoning behind how they choose where the clock goes. It's not. It was bought by private equity. It was brought by private equity.

Yes. And they just turned it into an actual clock that they sell for, it's like the football phone or the hamburger phone. No. So when it was created in 1947, it was set to seven minutes before Doomsday because the artist who designed it thought it looked good to his eye. And also just, it didn't even move during the Cuban missile crisis. So like that. And was it really over drugs that day? And also just, it didn't even move during the Cuban missile crisis. So like that, I was drunk that day. Sorry.

To be fair, super hungover. It was the sixties. We were all just mad. Too many steaks and martinis at lunch. Yeah. It sounds like this is pretty much like the guy that had the old pug where it was a bones or no bones day. Oh my God. Where he would have a senior dog stand up.

Are we good today? No. That's basically their logic in this. It looks like shit. So the world's shit right now. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like the scientific community's equivalent of Groundhog Day, you know, where

they're just like, what did the bulletin of atomic scientists say today based on some news that has been forwarded to us, we're going to go with, it's bad. And it is bad. I don't want to say it's not bad. I just don't think people who probably already recognize that it's bad need to take this all that seriously. I desperately want to say it's not bad, Jack. What are you talking about?

Things are going down. I'm dying to say it's not bad. It's what I want more than anything in the world. Yeah. All right. Shall we do a little shark news? That would be lovely. A little shark, shark miracle. Fucking love sharks. So some aquarium sharks have proven that Jeff Goldblum's character in Jurassic Park is right. And this is also under the category of women

really don't need men news. A baby shark was born in a Louisiana aquarium. Baby shark doodoo. Baby shark was born in a Louisiana aquarium. Baby shark doo-doo. The words baby shark are borderline traumatic for anyone who's had young kids. I know, I was going to say you completely disassociated him. Just glazed over immediately. My brain is broken. In this story, a very young shark was born in a tank to two female sharks who haven't been in contact with a male in over three years.

People are wondering what could have happened. Gay B shark doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. I was thinking turkey baster, but that's just me. Who's getting in there with the turkey baster? How would their flippers get around that? I don't know. I'm not turkey baster, but that's just me. Oh. Who's getting in there with a turkey baster? How would their flippers get around that? I don't know. I'm not a shark scientist. I know.

Well, the shark scientists seem baffled on this one. Have we consulted any shark religious figures? It's all male shark scientists, and they're like, how do you even have sex? What? Like, what? Wait, what? What goes in where? Wait, no dude was watching? What?

Yeah. That's wild. One staff member literally quoted Jeff Goldblum's character. We are very excited in the coming months to confirm whether this was indeed a case of parthenogenesis or if it was delayed fertilization, it really proves that life finds a way," he added. Yes, it's a he, referencing Jurassic Park. There was a story not too long ago, I think it was just last year, a stingray was pregnant or quote unquote pregnant and not around any males, but turns out, like had a tumor and died. And the zoo was just saying, yeah, she's mysteriously pregnant, not around a male at all. And they did it

for publicity. And then it finally came out of a pregnancy. Yeah. And they just like the animal just had a tumor or something in it because they kept pushing like when the baby was due and it just never, oh Oh my god, that's crazy. Yeah, I have to look it up because- The aquarium was having a hysterical pregnancy? They were just doing, you know- The zoos have resorted to early 20th century carnival barker shit where they're just like, look at the amazing.

They definitely did that after Moodang. Childbirth. Yeah. I followed a bunch of other, I already follow a bunch of other zoos and animal accounts and they were like, wait, we also have a Moodang. Childbirth. Yeah. I followed a bunch of other, I already follow like a bunch of other Zoos and animal accounts and they were like, wait, we also have a Moodang. We got one too, it's just shy, okay? So I feel like they are eager.

Yeah, I mean, they're writing about it in the journal Scientific Reports, which I don't, I have no way of knowing if that's like one of the good ones. unclear if that's, yeah, it's just like a Scientology Journal. What is the age gap on the moms? You know what I mean? Like, is it problematic?

Is it okay? That's the real question on everyone's mind. Sharks live a long time. I guess there have been a few stories in recent years about so-called virgin shark births, though. These fucking slutty sharks. They think it might be delayed fertilization. I don't know what that...

That's wild. Oh, I looked up the stingray. It's Charlotte from the Aquarium and Shark Lab in Hendersonville, North Carolina became pregnant without a male in February 2024 But turns out the aquarium thought she was pregnant But it turns out she was either fed too much or had a tumor and then she died in July Jesus Wait, these ones are called swell sharks. They're swell. Cat shark in the family. OK. Yeah.

Well, I cannot pronounce that, but it's a it's a they're they look like smaller. The sharks are small. They're not. Yeah, they don't look like sharks that I've been pretty. Oh, sharks are typically around 35 inches in length with a maximum length of 43 inches. Okay. All right, queens, I see you. It will be interesting to monitor to see if, you know,

three king sharks come and visit the baby or any appearance. You know Trump's about to write an executive order that's like, no gay sharks. Yeah. No sharks are allowed to be gay. There are only two types of shark childbirth. It, yeah, I don't know.

Painful or more painful. I'm pro shark life. Shark Jesus is coming back to make us pay for our sins, I think is what this, is that, that's how Jesus' story, right? He's vengeful and came back. Vengeant. Vengeance.

Started a private equity with the disciples. That's right. All right, what else? We got a Roseanne is threatening to make another sitcom, despite having been fired from a show that was literally just called Roseanne. Roseanne Barr wants to make another one. But this time, I guess it's not a sitcom so much. It's about a small town farmer in Alabama who is saving the United States from drug gangs and China. When she's not battling Chinese drug gangs,

she's growing and selling drugs. She is the problem that she's claiming immigrants are. Right. Exactly. Do we see a fentanyl connection, guys? Right. Exactly. We've got to fight fentanyl at the border, even though it's not coming over the border. Did her rap career not work?

Yeah, we didn't really cover her rap career, but that was a thing, right? She dropped a rap track on all of our asses. Yeah, it was really bad. Also, let's just say instead of Roseanne being about Roseanne, it's about Laurie Metcalf. Can we just rewrite history? Because I love Laurie Metcalf.

I know. So great. I mean, that show was wonderful despite her, you know, losing her mind as it was coming back and becoming popular. According to Barr, the characters in this will save America with guns, the Bible, petty crime, and alcoholism. So. Because she likes crime. She likes crime. What a great mix.

She likes drugs as long as they're done by her. Like it's a very kind of clear clarifying statement on what the maggot ethos is. It's just like, no, it's just that we get to do that. We're allowed to do all the bad stuff, but when you do it, it's bad. That's what like I was watching a clip of Hassan Piker and he was saying that because of how MAGA is so just like one note of just this deep loyalty to white supremacy or nationalism, they are now going to because they were all about like, oh, he's going to make the economy better. He's gonna make egg prices go down. And when they don't, when they get worse, they're going to spin it as patriotic to pay more.

You know, just in pursuit of white supremacy. He's like, it'll make you a better American. And they already have. They're like, look at these fucking Democrats worrying about the economy. And I'm like, bitch, that's what you voted on. Like, what are you talking about? It seemed to be your whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's as we talked about bitch, that's what you voted on. Like, what are you talking about? It seemed to be your whole thing. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's, as we talked about yesterday, it's trending. Like, I mean, he's freezing all the stuff that you typically look to the government for. He's really, like, testing the limits of loyalty. He's like, yeah, like I didn't, it's, it's almost like a gangster, like being like, I need you to shoot your grandma. Like to prove that you, to prove how on board you are with this. Cause yeah, there's a lot of, a lot of very old people getting fucked over by that freeze on federal funding. It's just.

There's already been rumors about him speed running, trying to get martial law in place by doing all of these over the top things to get people pissed off enough where he can just jump the gun to what he really wants. Yeah. Which president implemented martial law recently and then got ousted? Was it South Korea? Yes. Yeah. But he got ousted and we're not going to do that.

We're too cooked to do that. I know. It feels like we're too cooked. It feels like there's not the willpower. I don't know. Maybe people will surprise me. But the New York Times has been, I don't know, just been slow motion. Just a lot of their takes on all of this have not inspired confidence.

Anyways, this Roseanne thing is going to fucking slap when somebody makes it, except nobody has agreed to. Oh, so she's just pitching it. She's just ranting into the ether. Yes. This woman, like, when people get to a certain age, they need to just have hobbies and the love of their family. Like, what is, why is she still doing stuff?

Kind of like the Coen Brothers thing was her quote. What? Coen Brothers? They're, they're what? If she can end her series, like no country for old men, I would be 100% on it. Yeah, just morally bleak. No country for old men style sitcom. Like I would, I would watch the shit out of that, but I don't, I don't, some, something

tells me she wouldn't be able to pull it off. Anyways, Kim, it's such a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I'm still at the evil corporations of Meta and X for now, but I'm also on blue sky, Reddit, uh, Patreon, and then people are starting sub stacks. Maybe I should get into that too. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Just do all of them. All amazing. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I've been loving the compilations of people just responding to MAGA hats if what Elon did wasn't so bad, just do it right now. Right. Right now.

And then pivoting that is just delightful to watch. Yeah. For some reason, I don't know. And then people, I have seen the videos where the people do it in their bedroom and it's like, Whoa, but it's still like so scary. Amazing. Uh, Polly V where can people find you as their work of media you've been enjoying? I'm at Pala V Ganaland everywhere.

You should know how to spell my name by now. And if you don't, oh, well. Fuck you. I have a show at the Comedy Store called Facial Recognition Comedy. It's monthly. Our schedule's been like a little bit off because of, I don't know, fires and whatnot. But also, I'm going to be trying to like tour more. So I'm going to the Pacific Northwest, like Portland and surrounding areas

at the end of February, February and the beginning of March. If you have venues you think I should do, hit me up. I might try to put shows on there. And I think in March I'm going back to San Francisco. At some point, I have to decide what dates to headline like the function, I'm going to San Diego a bunch. So check me out on my website or on my socials. A thing of media. Okay, two things. One, I'm really into physical media right now. Okay, I just bought a fucking planner that's from like the Natural

History Museum and has pretty animals on it. And it's, oh my god, Kim has one too. And I'm like, it makes me feel like, like just mentally like peaceful. Like I have backups of my shit online of like what I need to do when and whatnot. But it's just so nice to like, write, you know, and just like have something physical in front of me. I love it. It's beautiful. And then another tweet that I saw that was really funny

was at Cosmic underscore Marvel had a tweet that said, Spider-Man four will reportedly introduce a new love interest for Tom Holland's Peter Parker and at Clinton's underscore emails, quote tweeted it with day eight and Trump has gotten rid of Zendaya. Tweet I've been enjoying from paddle at I paddle around tweeted trying to be empathetic holy fuck I'm so glad that isn't happening to me wow that would suck you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore I'm so glad that isn't happening to me. Wow, that would suck.

You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on bluesky at Jack OB, the number one. Uh, you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com. You can go, uh, to the episode where you're listening to this and check out the description of the episode and you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.

And when Miles is out, we like to ask on super producer Justin Connor. Justin is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, I usually recommend songs from a bunch of different genres, but I've mostly stayed away from dance music, even though it's my favorite thing to play when I DJ. So this track starts off slow, but it dips a toe in dance music and it blends a bunch of other genres together. This is relatively an unknown artist named Zep. He's like a multi instrumentalist.

Uh, he's got a really creative DIY approach to music. At one point, he even like stretches a roll of duct tape out and plugs it like a standup base. It's, it's really, really fun and interesting. Um, so this is Mosquito as in like mosh pit and mosquito mixed together by Zep. And you can find that in the footnotes. Wow. Footnotes?

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