The Daily Zeitgeist - Propaganda? More Like TOPaGUNda, Canada’s WILD Gun Control Idea 06.01.22

Episode Date: June 1, 2022

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 239 episode 2 of production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and we've been told miles uh this particular episode we're not allowed to make each other laugh we're too funny yeah like we have a sound situation happening. And yeah, Super Producer Justin was like, yeah, it's fine. Except when you guys are so freaking funny that you make each other freaking laugh so hard. And then it's a mess. And so he was like, you know, I've asked you this before and I'm going to ask it again. Can you please try and be just slightly less funny?
Starting point is 00:02:46 Just try and rein it in a little bit. Yeah, we can do that. We can do that. Yeah. Anyways, it is Wednesday, June 1st, 2022. Oh, yeah. You know what that is. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:00 National Go Barefoot Day. Let your feet get wide from not wearing shoes. That's all me. I love my bare feet. Let your feet get wide from not wearing shoes that's all me i love let your feet get wide yeah is that was that is that like part of the the write-up of national barefoot day uh i thought like makes it makes your foot wider oh that was just you editorializing yeah going barefoot for long enough can make your feet look and feel bigger. Because, you know, you're not containing them. And I think I was always just a barefoot child all the time. Anyway, also a Heimlich maneuver, National Heimlich Maneuver Day.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Please read up on that. I was at an event where someone was choking and needed assistance. Don't just read up on it. Go get the training, you guys. Oh, yeah, get the training you guys oh yeah get the training because yeah when i say train or when i say learn about i'm like watch a like a 90s comedy like a sitcom that had a heimlich scene i'm like see i know exactly um well anyways my name is jack o'brien aka i got energy got that white wine energy hey at least Joe Biden treats us better than our enemies
Starting point is 00:04:05 got that NPR soft little voice now fuck him with your rights but not your lifestyle that is courtesy of Chad at MSU MACC oh shit yeah yeah uh and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, it's Miles Gray coming at you with the softest of voices saying, yes, it is the Lord of Lancashire. And he's come down with a message to spread to everyone, which is please take care of yourselves in these hard times, please. Also, a shout out to myself. I am Hideo Noho. Thank you. please uh also a shout out to myself i am hideo noho thank you thank you well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious and acclaimed comedian actor and podcast host who you know from team coco's meet the staff and the movie that feels yes uh one of your favorite guests one of our favorite guests the brilliant the talented ever maynard hi everyone um it's so wonderful to be joined here today
Starting point is 00:05:07 listeners i i do need to let you know that it is i'm taking responsibility for quiet voices today um i am recording from my work office and i forgot the correct don. That's fine. This feels like NPR content, too. We're having just a gentle recording today. I told all of my coworkers that I was on a very important phone call and to not knock on my door. Well, it's also probably a good thing that we're keeping our voices like this so that it sounds more like a work call and less like me screaming, Dirty Lizzie Geist! Or some shit like that. I mean, you know I want to scream.
Starting point is 00:05:49 When you guys were talking about Barefoot Day, I was like, oh God. I should be taking today off. This is a personal day for me. I love being barefoot. Yeah, I'm really trying to keep my voice quiet like this. No, I love this shit. This is like my favorite conceit of an episode
Starting point is 00:06:06 ever so far. We're doing it because of NPR. And we were joking. We're like, what if we just did a whole NPR episode? Maybe this is the one organically just so we can lean into this a bit. Maybe we'll just go a little bit like this. Now, Ever, you
Starting point is 00:06:21 like to go barefoot pretty frequently. Is that the deal here? Well, I grew up trash. I think your listeners know I grew up in a small town. We know about the Goatman. We addressed it earlier during tech. You can walk into the dollar store and the gas station without shoes on. It's just one of those communities. It's a barefoot community. People think barefoot communities. We're talking granola tree, huggers, hippies. This one is just flip-flops and trash. And it's just stayed with me ever since. It reminds me of my favorite book, Hillbilly Elegy. That's my favorite book hillbilly elegy that's that's my favorite book have you have you have you heard about this ever is that accurate i've heard it is
Starting point is 00:07:12 i've seen isn't it now on the netflix isn't it a netflix movie now yeah it's a um it was a it was an academy award attempt swing and a miss for all categories except for Glenn Close. Glenn Close, the great, the talented Glenn Close. And if you're just joining us, we are on the Daily Zeitgeist. We are joined by Ever Maynard. And we are talking softly. Doesn't NPR do that a lot? Like reset constantly?
Starting point is 00:07:42 I guess because they are a radio station, so they kind of have to do that. And also, yeah, Ever is not in any imminent danger of just recording. No, I am in imminent danger, I would like to say. I'm at a workplace. Yes, I'm in danger. I'm recording a podcast at work. All right. Well, maybe our listeners can let us know how they like this new vibe that we're testing out. I myself am fucking with it. Honestly, it does feel like I'm about to go to bed.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I know. Justin, sorry for the laughter there. If you just want to mark that down and completely and cleanly excise it. down and completely and cleanly excise it. So maybe we could just go from me talking about hillbilly elegy forward to this moment. I mean, they should have known that was going to be
Starting point is 00:08:33 whatever. You put Gloomclose in a movie, you need to step it up. You gotta step it up. J.D. Vance, the author, is gonna be in charge of Ohio pretty soon, so that's exciting. Wait, he's running for office? Yeah, he's one of the good ones ever.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Okay, I thought we were being sarcastic. I was like, ooh, is this a bad man? Listen to this. You want a Republican primary in Ohio to run for senator? Yeah, he's going to be the Republican senator, but he's one of the good ones because he came on NPR and MSNBC every once in a while.
Starting point is 00:09:11 A lot of fun. Sorry, Amber, I cut you off. No, that's okay. For my birthday this past weekend, I allowed myself to get super wasted and i went to go talk to these cuties and we're chatting and then somebody just started to canvas at me they were like are you voting and i was like what i'm drunk
Starting point is 00:09:41 why i was like please please don't Canvas at me I'm very drunk and she wouldn't let it go And she was like well you still need to vote And I said I'm going to vote And then just to get her off my bag I told her I was going to vote for Rick Caruso Wait Was that what she wanted?
Starting point is 00:10:00 She wanted Rick Caruso She's DSA I was like Where the fuck is this place Is that what she wanted? For fucking Rick Caruso? Oh. She's DSA. She was a DSA. Okay, got it. I was like, where the fuck is this place? Hey, hey, listen, you got to vote for Rick Caruso. What? I'm drunk.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Okay. Are you voting for Rick? Do you like the Grove? Do you hate unhoused people? Then he's your guy. I love Los Angeles to be the Grove. I was like, I need more Grove in my life and I need more cops. And she was like, are you being serious. I was like, I need more grove in my life and I need more cops. And she was like, are you being serious? I was like, I'm drunk. I don't want to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I am incapable. And then she got offended when I was like, I'm tired of everybody knocking on my door. One little historic anecdote from the early elections of America. One of the top strategies that politicians would do is have voting parties where they would compete to throw the sickest party that got the most people shit-faced, and then everybody would vote at those parties. I think they made that illegal, but it sounds like a good strategy, but I'm pretty sure... Is that real? Yeah, that's real. George Washington was a big fan of this form of electioneering. You're talking about George Washington?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, have you heard of him? He was... I'm a big fan. Who the hell gives a fuck about George Washington? Oh, he's the best. I feel like my NPR take would be that George Washington is our greatest president. Oh, yes. I mean, who could forget one of the most whimsical figures in our entire history? He had a peg leg.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Did George Washington have a peg leg? Nah, but you know what? No, he had peg teeth leg did you watch washington have a peg nah but you know what on the show he did peg teeth he had peg teeth yeah let's go let's go with peg let's say that it uh extended on down to his leg like that scene where the robotics take over the the person's face in superman 3 one of the most terrifying movie moments of my young life when I saw it, that happened with him and wood. It started in his teeth and then wood just expanded through his body and took over his leg too. In true NPR fashion, we will just perpetuate the myth that his teeth were made of wood and not extracted from the mouths of slaves. Anyway, we have a wonderful recipe. How do you guys know so much about George Washington?
Starting point is 00:12:27 This is like one of those shitty myths, you know, where it's like, man, his teeth are made of wood. And it's like, uh, his teeth were ripped out of slaves' mouths. What? Yeah, it's just like one of these, you know, it's those nice things we tell ourselves to go to sleep at night that this country wasn't. We meant by wood.
Starting point is 00:12:44 That's what that was. Yeah. You know, we thought that was it. Wow. George Washington can get fucked. Fuck you, George Washington and your voting parties. That's really fun to whisper in an office setting. Ever, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:13:01 First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about Canada. They seem to see what's going on with assault rifles and have decided to this can't be right, take action?
Starting point is 00:13:20 Huh. By arresting children? He's going up, up north. Good one, Miles. Meanwhile, in America, they are arresting children and parading the children's faces on posting their mugshots publicly to send a message. So that's where we're at. That's the George Washington move. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:45 It's all about messaging and branding. Uh, we're going to talk about Marco Rubio freaking out about the NBA and the Miami heat because they advocated for a gun reform. Uh, we're going to talk about top gun Maverick, which had a big weekend at the box office, broke the record for the biggest Memorial Day weekend box office.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And is basically one long recruiting ad for the Navy. Now, I do have to ask, would you happen to know what the previous record holder was? Oh, of course. Of course we do. It was 2007's Pirates of the Caribbean sequel. Pirates of the Caribbean. Dead Man's Chest? Or Stranger Tides? Dead Man's Wood. Bittersweet weekend for Johnny Depp. Bittersweet.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Okay. What the fuck? That's probably some shit they'd say. Did you see that? He was saying what's going on this weekend or over the weekend he was at some show and he's saying marvin gaye what's going on like oh no please exit from our consciousness anyway the beloved actor seen here performing a spirited rendition of marvin gaye's what's going on we'll leave you with that we'll be right back steven's keep i was trying to get i was trying to come up with a npr name and i couldn't out audi cornish is that oh yeah yeah and audi cornish we'll be right back with uh the stock market
Starting point is 00:15:19 report but with with some whimsical chimes played in the background with a with a sentient bitcoin like what uh before we get to any of that shit though ever we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history currently most recently my search history was, how do I make my audio techno work? My mic work with a headphone thing in Zoom. That was the search with the headphone thing. Didn't know the word chat. Just the headphone thing. Scrambling when I was putting up my little kid at work.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And then Zoom Tricks. Zoom Tricks. Zoom Tricks. I had the producer call me. Shout out to the super producer, Tricia. What's up, Tricia? Good luck. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Good luck with this one, Tricia. What? Why are we being mean to Trisha? So the Zoom tricks didn't work? No. I mean, just for our listeners, I have Zoom on my phone. Like I'm making a phone call and then I'm staring at a blank computer screen. And then I have a microphone plugged in to a dongle and my headphones plugged into a microphone.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So real amateur shit today. Wait, question. Real amateur shit. You said you have a new computer that doesn't have a headphone jack? It's the new Mac. It's a Mac. They don't have a fucking headphone jack? No, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:17:00 If they have a headphone jack, I'm going to scream. Like on the other corner? No. Yeah, I feel like that's pretty standard, the headphone jack erasure. Yeah, because I had to buy a thing to plug it in. Jesus. Yeah. Actually, I'm looking at my MacBook from like three, four years ago. There is a headphone jack.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So maybe we should take a quick look. Make sure. I have a feeling everyone knows there's no headphone jack. There is a hole, but I don't think it's big enough. Oh, do you have like a quarter inch headphone cable or something? I got no headphone cables. I'm wearing my over the ears. Okay, we'll just leave it. I ran over my AirPods this
Starting point is 00:17:52 weekend. I think this has accidentally given the show a great vibe. I'm just going to take a small sip of this buttery chard and ask you, buttery chardonnay. I'll ask you, what is something you think is overrated um right now i'm screaming at george washington i think he is overrated i think his shitty little voting parties and his teeth are very overrated i think american history uh is overrated i think they're lying i think it's full of lies. This is why people buy guns.
Starting point is 00:18:29 This is a very incendiary take on our tame morning show, because we love George Washington, one of our founding fathers. But that is true. His teeth were not made of wood. And maybe it's time we do accept that as a country. I refuse. Not on my watch. teeth were not made of wood and and maybe it's time we do accept that as a country i refuse that's always like the push pull of the host is like you're about to get like you're about to figure it out you're like i refuse to believe that um american imperialism is the cause of a lot of them that doesn't sound like the george that i don't know but have been told about in numerous books with the gold binding that are illustrated with cartoons.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yes. It was his wife, Martha, that made the flag, right? Was that it? Martha Washington. I don't think that's. I think it was Susan B. Anthony. That made the flag with the circle and all the stars? Am I wrong?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Am I wrong here? Betsy Rossoss wasn't it betsy ross that was a trick i played on both of you i know you're very clever we have a tricky guest today you think i give a fuck about fuck betsy ross whoa whoa whoa what happened to our morning show? I'm sorry. You can't come up to me talking about politics. I'm drunk on my birthday. What is something you think is underrated ever? Duke's mayonnaise. I'm being very sincere right now.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I tried Duke's mayonnaise for the first time in my life. And it was so good. I've never loved mayonnaise before. It was so good that for my birthday, somebody gave me a pound of Duke's mayonnaise. Do they measure that in weight? I don't know what it is. Let me get a couple pounds.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Let me get a couple pieces of mayonnaise. I don't know what to do with it, but I got a big old jug of Duke's. Okay. I've heard a few people talk about Dukekes mayonnaise i know it's like a southeast thing or i typically hear it coming out of the southeast what is it just is it is there a flavor to it is it just it's just it's just creamy it tastes kind of like butter oh wow now i can't believe i'm talking about this i'm told by dukesmayo.com that it's got twang that's fun it sounds a little bit like something from
Starting point is 00:20:53 hillbilly elegy or uh your upbringing ever i was just curious does the twang figure into your high esteem or does it feel uh it's a subtle twang i'llctive? It's a subtle twang. I'll say this. It's a subtle twang. And if you love a nice Chardonnay, it goes well. I would say it's the Chardonnay of mayonnaise. Now you're speaking my language. Duke's mayonnaise.
Starting point is 00:21:18 The Chardonnay of mayonnaise. That's so funny. This is actually this week's sponsored recipe from Duke's Mayonnaise and Sutter Home Chardonnay. You're going to take that's so funny this is actually this week's sponsored recipe from duke's mayonnaise and sutter home chardonnay uh you're going to take a glass of shutter home a sutter home and you're going to just take a dollop of duke's mayonnaise put it in the glass and mix that up together for a wonderful cocktail you know i had that monday for memorial day oh you did all day. Oh, you did?
Starting point is 00:21:43 Mm-hmm. A Duke's Chardonnay? Mm-hmm. A Duke's Chardonnay. Made in a mayo Chardonnay. Chardonnays? Yes. And a lovely Chardonnays by the barbecue pit. Drink it down. Smooth.
Starting point is 00:22:02 It does make me gag a little bit, but I'm in. the wife says it's good for me gotta love that twang though gotta love that twang i feel like it would be very on brand for npr hosts to both love mayonnaise but not want to admit that they love man no they have to love it and like they i feel like they have to be like, I love a Chardonnay's. People say the Aperol Spritz was the drink of last summer, but it's really the Chardonnay's.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I love mayonnaise in all of its forms and it's my blood type. Welcome to NPR. Welcome to NPR. You're just now joining us. We are talking about the new hit Chardonnay's. It's so hard for me not to cackle right now and i'm trying to just be very professional they're like ever we were listening in on your work call you're talking
Starting point is 00:22:57 about george washington's slave teeth and then you pounding chardonnay chardonnay mayonnaise like plural or is that a hybrid chardonnay mayonnaise I think it speaks for itself I was talking to my doctor about my health habits yeah that's what you said that was a privileged conversation
Starting point is 00:23:19 you sick fuck what do you want to know it is a privileged conversation because we are speaking in the hushed tones of NPR. And welcome back to the show. And if you're just now joining us, we are about to throw to an end and take a break, after which point we will reset one more time and tell you what you're listening to. Exactly. In our ranking of the best GOP senators based on bicep circumference after this.
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Starting point is 00:27:42 Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I was told by one of our producers that they kept falling asleep to the dulcet tones of Miles. Because it's so dang boring. Ever and I speaking as NPR hosts. So we're going to go further into it, into a deeper sleep. So let's dig into what is what's happening, what the fallout has been on two sides of the border you
Starting point is 00:28:27 got your america united states of america and then you got your canada which is a different country uh that just wants to be america united states but better or something yeah exactly yeah so what what are they doing they trying to like redesign their flag to be red, white and blue instead of just red and white? The Maple Leaf is now going to look like a 777 howitzer artillery cannon. But no, they have Justin Trudeau has announced, you know what, we're going to do things a little bit differently. And we need to take the safety of Canadians seriously. So basically they are banning the sale of handguns. What is, and by that they're basically saying that you can no longer like procure a new handgun. So it's going to be like, you can't trade, you can't buy, sell. They're just saying, you know what the market on handguns, it's capped. That's it. If you've got one fine. Also, if you have an assault rifle, you need to come by and we'll buy that shit back from you because nobody, we're not doing that anymore either.
Starting point is 00:29:45 or a gunman, you know, had to kill 22 people in rural Nova Scotia, like in 2020. And that was a moment where it's like, oh, this is this is something that has to be addressed. And the wild thing is hearing, you know, how the prime minister is talking about it, about gun violence. And his quote is, gun violence is a complex problem. But at the end of the day, the math is really quite simple. The fewer the guns in our communities the safer everyone will be okay part of like my you know that was my only response i know because our fucked up propaganda american brains are like okay but now also tell me about the people screaming at the prime minister because it means end of the world because gun buyback like where's that part where's the
Starting point is 00:30:25 part where he has to acknowledge that it's it's not a good idea because these people hate it it was just ah it's it's truly something wild to hear a line like that when meanwhile we have people talking about it's not that we need less guns we need less door. Mm-hmm. I think that's, yeah. That's strong. Sorry. The pool, the gravitational pool of the NPR voice has made me realize why they do it. It just, it's very calming. There's no way you can speak
Starting point is 00:30:57 outraged like that. Right. You can't be outraged until you're so, it's like the thing where you go, walk around with a big smile on your face and like that's supposed to make you happy like there's that like feedback loop have you heard that like just like doesn't work right yeah it's yeah it's kind of a completely illogical way of dealing with things but it's also i at risk when you talk like this. It's also, I think, very American. Very American.
Starting point is 00:31:28 We're just going to force our damn souls into the right shape so we can get through this one more time. Ever, are you still joining us from the offices of NPR? I am. I was just saying, every time I try to make myself happy by smiling, I just look like a jackass.
Starting point is 00:31:46 It's like a forced smile. Yeah, like so ear to ear that someone's like, are you distressed? You're like, I am happy. I'm fine. Nice to meet you. Just smile with tears rolling down your face. Yeah. Nothing is wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I'm not stressed about anything. I've only been getting good news. And any bad news is a practice to to deal with it it you know what i mean where it's like like with buddhism and i'm sure like a lot of other religions where it's like if you stop resisting the pain will go away right so it's like hey no bad news i accept the bad news i stop resisting the bad news. I stop resisting the bad news. And suddenly there is no more bad news. And this segment is, of course, brought to you by Dukes. Dukes, man. No more bad news.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Dukes Chardonnay. Breathe it in. No more bad news. I mean, that would feel like a segment that they would have on NPR. It's like, and next is stress management technique. And they're like, and the biggest thing is we have to accept what's happening around us, right? It's when we resist it that we feel all that discomfort. So if we just accept everything is terrible and trust the politicians to do everything, all your cares will go away.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Just accept the gun violence around you. It's that simple. You know, I like to go back to George Washington stories when I have to illustrate a point I want to make, but also another great American, Ever Maynard, the inventor of Chardonnays, has often said, do you think I would have invented this if I were happy? So I feel like... You think a happy person could have come up with this? Could have come up with this shit? No. Look how happy I am. come up with this. Could have come up with this shit? No. Look how happy I am.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Look at this smile. Look at it. Anyways, meanwhile, in the United States of America, the NRA held their convention where Donald Trump read off the names of the children and victims of the Uvalde massacre. And then also, for good measure, at the end, dances a little jig on stage. That's not real. It is. It's not real.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Everything feels like lazy satire at this point. So that happened. And then the police in Florida arrested a 10-year-old who had said that he bought a bunch of assault rifles and was going to do a school shooting, essentially. And they interviewed him, found out that he was making false threats. I don't think he had the guns that he was claiming he did. And they proceeded to arrest him and publicly release his mugshot.
Starting point is 00:34:29 That's so scary. And they, first of all, I saw people like posting about this approvingly, like on social media. It's just like, you know, I don't know. It just feels like chaos, like signal and noise all like blended together into just indecipherable kind of slurry. I don't know. It just feels like chaos. Signal and noise all blended together into
Starting point is 00:34:45 just indecipherable slurry. This is a kid that needs mental health resources, and this is only going to make it worse. This kid needs counseling, therapy, but instead we're just burning him
Starting point is 00:35:02 at the stake or dragging him through the town. You know what I mean? Yeah. This is not cool. This is only going to further traumatize this kid. And it's like, yeah, this kid did a fucked up thing and we should be taking threats seriously. But at the same time,
Starting point is 00:35:16 this is also like a red flag that this kid needs help. Yeah. The sheriff who prides himself as the tough on crime sheriff made made a statement i'm just gonna read from it because again it does it does feel like it's just bad like satire that's too on the nose but you know it certainly feels like the police are doing the like you know the thing where like a bully gets beat up and then comes in and immediately starts picking on the smallest kid in school just to prove something to themselves or whatever, salvage their reputation and sense of self. So the sheriff said, this student's behavior is sickening, especially
Starting point is 00:36:02 after the recent tragedy. Making sure our children are safe is paramount. We will have law and order in our schools. My team didn't hesitate one second, not one second to investigate this threat. So that is like a veiled reference to the Uvalde police, you know, waiting outside the school while the shooting was taking place. Right now is not the time to act like a delinquent. It's not funny. This child made a fake threat, and now he's experiencing real consequences. We don't wait one second. We investigate every threat as if it's real. And while Marceno
Starting point is 00:36:36 acknowledged that the boy is only 10 years old and his brain isn't fully developed, he explained that making fake threats still have real consequences so he's going back to that fake threat real consequences thing like a tough love school principal real threat i don't know it sounds dangerous right like yeah that one seems a little less clear it's it's wild how like everyone's kind of using this to differentiate themselves even though they're in the same group be like we have no problem jumping to conclusions and brutalizing a 10 year old child because we take threats seriously i'm like the jokers in that other place like you're completely missing the point can we describe this photo of this sheriff with with the cops behind him yeah for the listeners.
Starting point is 00:37:25 So there is a big, I'm going to call him buff daddy sheriff, and he's wearing a half zip sweater pullover. And it's slightly buttoned down, but it's kind of like an army green and it's got a gold star. Huge pecs, chiseled jawline. Huge pecs.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Huge pecs, great arms. Big pecs. Big pecs on his chest. This guy's Gregory Pecs. It's Gregory Pecs. Huge pecs. Great arms. Big pecs. Two big pecs on his back. This guy's Gregory Pecs. It's Gregory Pecs. I did have to look up to make sure it was not Gregory Pecs. The porn star? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Not Gregory Pecs. The Gregory Pecs. Oh, is that really a porn star's name? No, I'd imagine there would be a guy named Gregory Pecs. Oh, God. be a guy named gregory pegs oh god so then there's three SWAT team members on his left and three regularly dressed cops on his right and they're all like yeah we're going to daniel craig movie you know like kind of like tough guy looks yeah it's like you're a 10 year old where you're armed to the hilt.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Oh, yeah. The SWAT team members have the masks over their faces, and then the officers are doing their best to flex while also keeping one hand on one of their weapons. They're in a sad flying V of no confidence and using gun to look tough. The three people who are like masked and shit it really it's like it shows you all they got to do is like oh shit man we spent so much money on this crap and never use it y'all line up so they can at least see that we're dressed like the video game characters they all look kind of half out of shape i am gonna lie i'm not gonna lie i'm getting back into shape but i feel like i
Starting point is 00:39:05 could outlift and outrun these people the chief i'm i'm worried about his cardio that's for honestly he definitely uses steroids and a lot of pre-workout oh yeah the farts the farts are ridiculous when he goes to the squat rack people like fuck it get away get away from this guy clear out yeah i mean and throughout all that time too like i don't know if you read any like the weird quotes coming out of the fucking nra convention of people like with their weird takes trying to defend you know like just this indefensible situation and like some people this guy was talking the texas tribune like there's this this one line in this article, he said, they described like people who are attending the NRA convention, they described feeling ostracized for their beliefs and not just those on guns, for their refusal to get the COVID-19 vaccine, for their objections to gay people serving as teachers, for their belief in disciplining children through spanking. Like what?
Starting point is 00:40:03 Like the dinosaurs feel bad that we've completely moved on like it's just our dinosaur culture though please i had a dinosaur culture in portland and i went there a couple weeks ago for some gigs and i was taking a lift and this guy's like have you ever been to dallas foreign words he was a dinosaur right and but it was Portland. And I was like, I mean, it's okay. It's a little conservative. He goes,
Starting point is 00:40:28 I'm just looking to move somewhere where people respect the law. And I was like, hell yeah. He was like, I'm tired of all this graffiti. And it's like, it's not 1952. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:42 There's graffiti. Tired of this damn artwork everywhere rock and roll somewhere where you can just walk into a starbucks with a assault rifle right yeah uh there's another person who like also said like the kid could have had a bat and could have done just as much damage but they're trying to attack guns and it's just it's wild to even hear the people that are there because i don't know if you saw the images from inside the convention it was sparsely attended like right a lot of people protesting than attending i did see that video where the guy like addressed the president and he's like yeah he was like thank you for your thoughts and prayers right he's like people have
Starting point is 00:41:23 said wayne lapierre did nothing after Sandy Hook, after Vegas, after Parkland, after you like just goes fires off the list. And like, you can tell people were getting uncomfortable because it was like it had the tone of someone being critical. And he's like, and yet they don't see what he has done. He's like, I want to thank you, Mr. LaPierre, for your thoughts and prayers, because you did offer them kind of shit. But yeah, it is a very interesting moment to see even the people who are fully NRA-brained,
Starting point is 00:41:52 the best they can do is say stuff like, a bat would have been just as bad, or the reason why people are doing this is because we're teaching our kids that America's a bunch of crap, as one guy said and i just feel like that logic is it's starting to wear thin for some people when you just kind of see the repeated horrors like over and over and over again and then hear people be like we need one we need one door right so the the door thing is that there were too many doors and one of the too many of them were left open? Is that their thesis?
Starting point is 00:42:27 Yeah. But then just in general, if you have one point of entry, you can control that. And it's a choke point. So if someone were to enter and they were untoward, like you can get it, like stop them right there at the point of entry. There's no other place to monitor. Just the one door. Again, unless there's a fire at that door. In which case. The much more common event that yeah
Starting point is 00:42:47 yeah so but you know this is this is kind of like i think you can tell from the outrage from the people even outside of the convention center where the nra thing was happening is it's just like at a certain point it's like this sounds so so utterly ridiculous when most people would be like if someone's like the person is shooting people you'd be like i wish that person didn't have the capability to shoot people like at will right that's that usually is like the easiest way to solve a problem but hearing all this other like you know redirection and nonsense, I think it's just, it's just making people more furious. Yeah. I was reminded while driving around over the long weekend and seeing a blue lives matter, like sticker on the back of someone's car. Like there are people who not just the police,
Starting point is 00:43:39 but the P there are people whose identity is based on the idea that police are heroes. there are people whose identity is based on the idea that police are heroes and so i'm assuming those are the people who are like sharing this story about arresting a tank like the the social media i saw on this was like yeah but like bernie sanders just wants to eliminate student debt nice try asshole like the at least some people are doing something about the problem we have like commenting on the story about the 10 year old being arrested right and it's just yeah it's there's the recency bias that we've talked about before about like where your town will never be more prepared for the snowstorm uh that happens after the the one that they needed to be better prepared for and then you know the
Starting point is 00:44:26 police and the people who's who have blue lives matter like on their social media accounts are like you know they they are wounded right now and like this is this is what we get as a result and it's it's wild like it truly is just something that I feel like we're getting many moments that belong in that end stages of human civilization museum with Jimmy Fallon, Paris Hilton interview about board games. I do have something to say in defense of Blue Lives Matter. And it's more of a sheriff's lives matter. Over the Memorial Day weekend, which also happens to be my birthday weekend, I was at the beach. Yes, thank you so much. I'm drinking my Chardonnays. helicopter doing tricks in front of the the buoy in front of me because the helicopter landing pad
Starting point is 00:45:27 was directly kind of off to my left and every 15 minutes the helicopter would take off and do a new trick and i gotta say i've never wanted to waste more tax dollars i wanted to see more tricks. And I was like, this is about $10,000 a minute. Per trick? Yeah, per trick. Literally, they were just doing tricks. I don't think I've seen helicopter tricks. What do a helicopter do? It looks like they're about to fall out of the sky. And everybody was like, oh my God, the helicopter's going to fall into the ocean.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And then they'd go, psych. Or they would just fly straight up like nose up and then dive bomb down and do some kind of roll it honestly was very cool what wait and this was like in a law enforcement helicopter hey they would wait i swear there is a there is like a a crisis of confidence happening with all police forces across the country. And they are doing... Rick, go do some tricks. Rick, you know those sick copter tricks you do? I feel like they're doing what I'm doing right now, where they're at work and they're like, yeah, yeah, I just have a phone call to make in my office.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And instead they're podcasting. Yeah. But it's like a fascist podcast. They're like, we're on patrol. And instead they're doing their own memorial Air Force show. Welcome to Sick Tricks with Rick. You can hear that rotor in the background. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:47:05 What's going on with the Miami heat thing, though? Oh, well, so that was a wonderful pivot from Evermaidard. The whole thing that's happening. Thank you for keeping the show moving. The whole other side of this, right, is like something that that's interesting there's this op-ed in the washington post who was written by i feel greg sergeant talking about like you know the effectiveness of athletes and their advocacy right now because it just seemed like pointed something interesting out was that when sports teams get involved like conservatives can't handle it like they just cannot handle athletes or teams having an opinion on like
Starting point is 00:47:46 policy and it's always like just shut up and play sports ball and and i think it's like i think there's just something interesting about like that insistence because it seems like one of the biggest the reactions that got like the most attention last week was steve kerr who's a basketball coach and his like outrage about it. A lot of people were like, oh, wow, this is interesting. Like, wow, look at this coach had something to say about it. Then the San Francisco Giants manager, Gabe Kapler, he told reporters he wouldn't stand for the national anthem until he felt the country was actually like moving in the right direction because he said like what he's seen is just not good at all. And this drew a lot
Starting point is 00:48:24 of criticism, but then it was quickly followed at all and this drew a lot of criticism but then it was quickly followed by like other teams airing messages of support for like gun reform like the the yankees and shit like that and so the heat before their game they had like a you know pro gun reform message and like marco rubio was like like just stay out of it but i think there is something interesting just pointing out like how much, how pressed the politicians get when athletes talk about this stuff, because it does feel like they occupy this space in our popular culture where like,
Starting point is 00:48:55 you know, clearly athletes of color, when they protest to this point has been seen like you're radical black or, you know, person of color. Like, how do you like Kaepernick? Like, where was the support when like Kaepernick was protesting you know yeah uh not much but yeah it's then i
Starting point is 00:49:13 think that's the unfortunate aspect especially of like the the issue that he's drawing attention to which would put a lot of people off to be like there's not a racism problem but right now with gun reform to have people say i fucking think it's awful that children are dying needlessly now try and come for me for that and a lot of people are just like like i want to be like what are you soft and you don't like needless child death but it puts it puts them in a very odd place and i think aside from like the crisis of confidence there's also just like they don't know what to say anymore and you know this sort of op-ed was
Starting point is 00:49:50 just kind of pointing out like how much more you know like normalizing athletes can do because there are there are groups of like rigidly minded voters who are like i don't know man if anyone who's a democrat says anything like i'm instantly turned off now, hold on. This baseball player also doesn't like it. Okay. Maybe that's, maybe I'm not so soft. If I like the NRA does it. I mean, the NASCAR does it. Talk to me when NASCAR does.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Yeah. I mean, we'll, we'll see where, if it reaches that point, but it is interesting to just to see, like, you know, I think just the more like outward rejection of like, just kind of being like thoughts and prayers and being like, no, this is this kind of fucked up. Although I do feel like I think it's very cool. My only concern is like with how incrementalism is in this country, that the new normal is just to be like, this is messed up. Right. Whereas before it was just like thoughts and prayers. Right. Yeah. And now they're like, this is messed up. Don't ask me to do much more. But it is messed up. The heat message is remarkably like from the year 2018 for the first half of it. Like they do a moment of silence. They ask everybody to like honor the losses of the families who lost children and, you their memory and it is like thoughts and prayers and obviously it's silent because they're doing a moment of silence but then when they give
Starting point is 00:51:12 everybody a phone number to call to prep put pressure on their local politicians to pass gun control reform like the the crowd like really i you know they it shouldn't be surprising but the crowd really like gets behind it and like starts cheering almost uniformly like there's almost uniform approval and like i i don't know that that does like i feel like that's a good in florida yeah yeah exactly which is probably why marco rubio was like what the fuck is going on yeah marco rubio not happy i mean i i don't know this is something i've always wondered right like tragedy touches every person regardless of your political ideology and i know sometimes it's maybe easy to wait oh easier to explain away why
Starting point is 00:52:03 something may have happened but on some level i'd imagine if you're a human even though you may be you know maga to the to down to your bones that you may have experienced loss in your life and for a moment we're like that's awful to like lose a child and that's i do i I am aware of that sensation. And to then hear someone be so shitty in the face of it, like repeatedly, like maybe the first 40 times it was like easy to hide it. But there is something I think just like everybody was talking last week, like we all were talking about moments. We were just breaking down just by not even because like we're like there was something different about this one. It's like I feel like we're collectively reaching this like tipping point where it's really difficult to kind of keep being like that. OK, well, maybe it'll be a while to the next one and we can figure it out in the interim. But it's not. It's going to be like tomorrow. I know that sounds bad.
Starting point is 00:53:12 No. And I think that's I think the reaction of politicians is one thing. But I just think for people, like, we can't, we're not going home taking away, like, millions in donations from interest groups to, like, stay in office. To, like, help soothe our wounds. Could you imagine? Yeah, right. Why do you think I brought the Dukes? Yeah. Oh, man. Miles is in the fucking pocket of big mail, or as they call it, in the jar.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Baby boy, I'm in the jar. Okay, sorry. No, okay. But it is one of those things where the shit is the tricks don't work on people anymore. It's like, how are you going to look at that and not say something that's more substantive now again but with how incremental things feel it may just push the thing the goalpost just a fucking couple inches where now the response isn't thoughts and prayers it's like what are they doing in washington also hear your donations in washington but right that's just like the new face of the game i don't know it's it's hard to know until we really kind of get on the other side of it i think all pressure, any pressure anybody can apply is great,
Starting point is 00:54:07 you know, on the sports front. And I'm wondering if Canada is doing the thing like a good parent where they just like model the good behavior. They don't directly tell the kid to do it, but they're just like when the kid is having a temper tantrum, they get calmer and they like bring it down here they're like hey what so you know i sometimes i get angry too but they're really the only way i keep a big smile on my face when i get angry and a giant glass of chardonnay is close by suddenly i'm not angry anymore
Starting point is 00:54:41 we've done it i don't know but i mean like you know just like when when we did our show up in canada like wow that's health care they're like look no dental no mental and i'm like hey we got nothing so that's cool uh but i mean i don't know i think or it could just we're like oh what's their endgame here? It's like, maybe they're worried about the safety of their people. I don't know. I think it's about us. If I had to guess, it's about us. No, I'm saying about them.
Starting point is 00:55:15 They're trying to say fuck you to us right now. They really are. Like, look what we can do. And look what you can do, but you're not doing it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:55:25 We'll come back. We'll talk about a movie that has some good ideas of what we can do to Canada. And that is Top Gun. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
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Starting point is 00:59:41 Get your podcast. And we're back. And Top Gun Maverick broke the record for the biggest Memorial Day weekend box office previously set in 2007. 2007? Is that a thing anybody has ever said? 20-odd-seven. I mean... 20-odd-seven.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yeah. By Pirates of the Caribbean movie. So one thing, one overwhelming aspect of the demographics of the Top Gun 2 audience, old. Just old as fuck. Fuck, yeah. Makes sense. As our editor, JM, put it, this is basically the Avengers Endgame of Dad movies. But 55% of ticket buyers were 35 or older.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Man, fuck you, man. I'm 36. I'm not old. I'm 41. Yeah, I don't think I'm old. I think it's old compared to who usually goes to the movies. Also, I like that there's just a blanket demo, 35 and up.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Right. I'm like, what about 35 to 45? Like the homies, you know? Yeah. Then be like, and then the old folks, you know what that is. That's 55 or whatever it is, but whatever. That's fine. The 35 and old is just, you would be, what, one year younger than the actual film, the original Top Gun is?
Starting point is 01:01:05 Yeah, that seems about right. I didn't that people were like still horny for like top gun movies i know like i was i was really interested to see how this movie does and i found out over the weekend but i was yeah i was curious i was like people there it did seem like growing up every single like tv entertainment center had a copy of the vhs of top gun oh yeah on just it was mandatory and now you know so it's still about like they're in air force school and they still yeah they're just seeing they're still repeating the final class right yeah so it's air force school it's like harry potter for air force and now instead of being the cocky brash harry potter i guess that even though harry potter wasn't cocky or brash he would like instead of being you're the best, but you don't believe in anything.
Starting point is 01:02:05 You bad, you badass boy. Now, Tom Cruise teacher, he's he's snake. Oh, now. And so he comes through and Miles Teller, who is, you know, whiplash guy. He is Goose's son. guy he is goose's son and so he is trying to reach goose's son to make him less of a wild card shut the fuck up tom cruise oh sorry tom cruise's character can be wild and goose's son can be wild george yeah well um but so it starts to make more sense that the idea that like the plot of the first movie was like he may be talented but he's too wild and needs to be brought in line with
Starting point is 01:02:54 discipline it's like reverse footloose where it's like they're like yeah these kids are too wild and the good the happy ending is when he starts following orders and uses his dancing to spread the message of the church. Top Gun was basically written by the Pentagon. Like the filmmakers whole idea was like, what if we had access to aircraft carriers? And the Pentagon was like, sure, but we are essentially writing the story. They had actual story control and cast the military in the most positive light. They changed Goose's death to an ejector seat malfunction instead of a midair collision. Did that happen in the first movie or something? Yeah, so Goose dies in an ejector seat malfunction. Spoiler alert. And sorry if that was too late on that.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Wait, Val Kilmer? No, dude. That's Iceman. I don't know anything. Goose is Anthony Edwards, right? From the Minnesota Timberwolves? I might have that wrong.'s either anthony edwards or carl anthony town so there's a goose and an ice man and then tom chris because i maverick okay
Starting point is 01:04:13 maverick that's yeah it's anthony edwards it's anthony dr mark maybe and anyways it what it is weird that he dies from an ejector seat malfunction. It seems kind of random, but that's because the Navy made that edit because they didn't want it to reflect real things that were happening in the Navy, where during training missions, people were dying from midair collisions. So they just made it like a random thing that doesn't often happen. So the important takeaway here is that the navy set up recruitment stations in movie theaters where top gun was playing and reportedly saw a 500 bump in enlistments following the film's release and people you know more like sociologists type the critical community thinks that it had an important role in making people feel more rah-rah about military like adventurism reagan's like policy of like we'll use our
Starting point is 01:05:15 great military to fix it and invest in star wars like the lasers the space lasers and then there was a story about like recruits who signed up after succumbing to top gun fever being very unhappy with the realities of the military so it's kind of wild because i'm going to read you a quote from somebody who was against the idea of doing a sequel to top gun they said i want the kids to know that's not the way war is. That Top Gun was just an amusement park ride, a fun film with a PG-13 rating that was not supposed to be reality.
Starting point is 01:05:53 That's why I didn't go on and make Top Gun 2 and 3 and 4 and 5. That would have been irresponsible. Oh, who said that? That quote is from Tom Cruise. Oh, dang. He went on instead to make the movie uh born on the fourth of july because he felt guilty about how top gun was being used and he wanted to make it so that so like his career
Starting point is 01:06:17 was being used to show the realities of war oh he really did that? That was the reason? People speculate, but he openly said that he wants people to not believe that Top Gun is the way it actually is. It's just propaganda fun, man. It wasn't supposed to be. Yeah, relax. Everybody knows it's propaganda fun. Yeah, come on now. That's why I didn't already okay Top Gun 9. Can we drop the propaganda bit? Because it's not propaganda. It's just fun. That's why I didn't already okay Can we just drop the propaganda bit? Because it's not propaganda. It's just fun. It's just fun.
Starting point is 01:06:51 We do. I mean, it should be noted, like a lot of this probably isn't going to make it into the final episode because every episode of Daily Zeitgeist does go to the Navy for a final edit. They just want to make sure that what we're saying is like accurate, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:06 I guess like to their vision of how the world is. Yes. Hello, major Collins. Thanks for listening. If, if you think that like, that is kind of retrograde and like wild that like that was happening,
Starting point is 01:07:19 that they were sending recruiters to movie theaters in 1986 and like actually getting people to sign up to put their lives on the line they are doing it again over this weekend they first of all had special advertisements playing before some screenings and there have been military recruiters in theaters awkwardly hanging around next to the concession stands i mean talk about a waste of taxpayer money seriously well the toys the little jet fighter toys that they have on their table, those look pretty cool. They don't look cheap ever.
Starting point is 01:07:51 So, you know, maybe our tax dollars are being used properly. I'm going to be very vulnerable with you guys right now. Please. I never thought I was smart enough to join the Navy and to drive an airplane. That's the only reason why I would never join the Navy or the Air Force. I can't believe I admitted that out loud. Yeah, it was a self-belief. I was like, I could never figure out how to, I'm not good at math.
Starting point is 01:08:14 It's so funny you said that, Ever. I couldn't read when I began flying a fighter pilot or a fighter jet. And Uncle Sam believed in me. I was just like you. I couldn't add couldn't add read or write or know my own name some guy after i saw screening a top gun said hey you want to have fun sign the squiggle line on this paper next thing you need to be able to read is target locked next thing i know i'm in kuwait baby man shit sucked but i don't yeah i i it's wild that i like in your mind you're like i just don't think i got it it's not anything else to do with it that's unappealing you're like i don't know if
Starting point is 01:08:51 i got it i don't know i think you know it just seems like i mean you gotta be somewhat smart to drive a fighter jet right they go real fast and you gotta know physics and look if it's like if any surgeons also are like uh fighter jets and surgeons have the most like overlap of like any two professions in terms of like bullshit you know personality tests but i think it's i just think it's like confidence and self-assuredness are the things like you can't just be constantly questioning everything you do which is how i disqualified myself the moment i know if you're flying that fucking fast right you can't yeah you have to be sociopath and then you just explode you're like well i don't know that's not fighter pilot
Starting point is 01:09:37 mentality but again if you have your fighter pilot driver's license please Please let us know. Is it hard to drive that thing? Please. Yeah. I'll just be shocked and fascinated if there is a listener to the Daily Zeitgeist who also is a naval aviator. That would be really interesting. Also, are they still doing airplane stuff? Like, are they still making new airplanes? Oh, they are. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Speaking of tax dollars. That is what the entire U.S. economy is propped up by. Yeah. Is making new weapons of death. Have you seen the new F-22 Raptor? Oh, it's a BU. That thing. Good luck.
Starting point is 01:10:18 And we actually have the designer here for an interview. We're going to throw to Audi Cornish. That's fine. Now, your name is Dave Martin, and you work for Lockheed Martin. Any relation there? Well, actually, yes. Mr. Lockheed Martin. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:10:35 I failed. I ejected seated. Mr. Lockheed Martin. Uh-oh. Ever ejector seated and there was a malfunction. And then big old mess. Yeah. Oh, boy. Everett Ejector Seated, and there was a malfunction. And then big old mess. Yeah. Oh, boy. Everett, as always, a true pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I appreciate your patience and the tech savvy of your team for helping me set this up. We have the best team. We all made it work. We made it work. I can't speak for the hosts the team is great where can people find you, follow you all that good stuff
Starting point is 01:11:11 currently I'm recruiting naval officers outside of the island park AMC yeah y'all can follow me on all socials at evermainerd again listeners I'm so sorry Y'all can follow me on all socials at Evermaindered, E-V-E-R-M-A-I-N-A-R-D.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Again, listeners, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I think that if I had to listen to this voice like this, I would want to slit my own throat. I'm going to be honest. Avoid at all costs. Avoid at all costs. Hey, trigger warning. But no, yeah, thanks so much for having me. I always have a blast on this podcast.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I wonder if... Excuse me. And is there any work of social media that you have been enjoying ever made Lisa Curry um I believe her handle is at Lisa Curry on Twitter so there's this whole big thing I guess of like NRA freaks
Starting point is 01:12:14 posting their guns like laying them out in a design and there's she like quote tweeted this like army officer and his like girlfriend and they've got guns all over their bed like it looks a little porny like it's like oh sexy porn and um lisa was like like defending what they don't even own a bed frame some phrase of that i should pull it up but it's so fucking funny it's just a drag because like these like on this like person's tweet on this couple's tweet it's like we're here to offend our nation you don't even own a bed frame it's literally like a mattress on the ground and two horny people oh yeah okay this picture is wild it's like some this woman's like in a sports bra and underwear the dude's shirtless so many guns all over the
Starting point is 01:13:06 ground and what she tweeted was what so they said i guess it's just one of those tweets and she tweeted what property are these two protecting they don't even have a bed frame that's good yeah so i think about that and i chuckle a lot it really makes me giggle so yeah all right miles where can people find you and what is the tweet you've been enjoying oh well uh let's see you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray if you like basketball check out miles and jack got mad boosties the other podcast and if you like 90 day fiance check me out on 420 Day Fiance. All right, a tweet I like is from Rachel McCartney at Rachel M Comedy tweeted. This is this is like a screen cap of her talking to some other woman on Tinder. It says, I love Tinder.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And this is how it starts out. And she's talking to somebody from Argentina. So the English is a little broken. It says, are you famous? Ha ha. You looks like a comedy show star. I'm from Argentina. So I don't know if you are lied. Rachel responds.? Ha ha. You looks like a comedy show star. I'm from Argentina. So I don't know if you are live.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Rachel responds. Ha ha ha. I'm absolutely not famous except a tiny bit on Twitter. This Argentinian woman responds. I don't use Twitter. Rachel says you're better off. The woman responds. So it's funny.
Starting point is 01:14:19 I'm a happy. So it's fine. I'm a happy person in general. Rachel responds. Brilliant. You never see that anymore. To which the Argentine says, Twitter is for angry person. Truth.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Truth. Let them know. Truth.com slash social. Oh, shit. Or whatever. Truth that. Retruth that shit. You can find me on Twitter at jack underscore o'brien a tweet i've been enjoying is from
Starting point is 01:14:47 sarah j at tricera j tops tricera j tops one of the oceans should be sweet that's it i just agree with that i think if we're gonna have all these salty ass oceans what if you got it in there man think about that sea guzzle oh man especially one of the cold ones it was just gatorade frost all up there come on you can find uh us on twitter at daily zeitge. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? This is a group called The Sorcerers. I'm not sure when or where they're from i suspect they're a modern band who's playing like old school kind of like afro beat kind of stuff uh if you like uh
Starting point is 01:15:52 like bludos band or like anti ballast like you'll definitely like this track this track is called summoning the monkey god and it's the 45 edit uh and this is the sorcerers just really good uh like instrumental like afro beat kind of stuff but it's got like more like it feels like a spy movie theme song so check it out i don't know if you heard my on point a harry potter reference but you said you don't know where they're from and i said quidditch which what that means that that's a harry potter thing okay well now you have to explain it to me i'm gonna make it it you put it in. It's the sport. It's the sport in Harry Potter.
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