The Daily Zeitgeist - Protestors AREN’T The Problem, How To Be A SHOOK Man 06.12.25

Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh man, I can't wait. Are you guys traveling to our nation's capital this weekend? No. What's happening? There's a big birthday bash for the homie. Oh, you were invited dog. I mean, I invited myself man. Oh yeah.

Starting point is 00:00:21 There's going to be plenty of tickets. Plenty. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game.

Starting point is 00:00:32 I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game.

Starting point is 00:00:42 I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I'm going to be playing in the game. I thought he would do better by the time it was his birthday. I thought by the time it was his birthday, people would be like, you know what? Nevermind. I like him. Yeah. No, it would get worse.

Starting point is 00:00:53 And I'm sure there will be some people breaking into song singing Happy Birthday. All 200,000 of them. He couldn't even get that when they fucking did the insurrection, man. And they bust motherfuckers in from all over. And you think you're going to get voluntarily 200 fucking thousand people there? Yeah. Yeah. Just celebrate the guy in power. He's just speed running the fascism like he thinks for like 20 years in now.

Starting point is 00:01:21 We're like, people are going to be like, well, you better go, bro, because, you know, they're going, you'll get fired from your job. Yeah. I think you need to like start just disappearing everybody before you throw a massive birthday party. If everyone's under arrest, then we all have no choice but to go. Yeah. Right.

Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah. Then you have to go. Everybody dance now. Yeah. Yeah. This is the part of sprockets. What are we dance? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:44 The birthday entertainment is just shooting at people's feet as they make them dance. Old west style. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. Oh, I like this song. Are we the, are we the new DNC podcast?

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Starting point is 00:04:49 Yeah, 6-12-25, it's National Career Nurse Assistance Day because it is first day of National Nursing Assistance Week. It's also National Peanut Butter Cookie Day, okay, I can get behind that. National Jerky Day, I can get behind that. National Loving Day, shout out interracial marriage. Shout out to everybody. Shout out all the interracial marriages.

Starting point is 00:05:09 Shout out that fucking wonderful court decision where we had to be like, yeah, that's okay for race mixing. That's legal now. You know what, we'll give you one for them, one for us. Okay, we're gonna let people who are in love with each other get married, even if they don't. But the Democrats are still like, how's it polling? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:05:28 Oh, you know they ask how it's... Who's gonna pay for it? Yeah. Who's gonna pay for it? Anyway, it's also National Red Rose Day. So look, it's all here. Can't really argue with any of these things today. Red Rose, just the flower.

Starting point is 00:05:40 We're going with that? Yeah. On June 12th? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Wait, what do you- Doesn't seem like the national- it seems like that would be like Valentine's Day, but all right. All right, you greedy bitches. You red rose greedy bitches need a thousand days. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka I want martial law. Please let me do this. I swear I'm gonna do it right.

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Starting point is 00:06:42 But you know if it was something by Donald sung by Donald Trump or one of his many minions, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, aka. Birthday parade. It must be the right. Shout out Halcyon Salad for that one. Nailed that Madonna, aka. So I'll out Halcyon salad for that one. Nailed that Madonna AKA. So I'll pat myself on the back for that one.

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Starting point is 00:07:22 Justin. Uh, we're thrilled to be joined as always in our third seat. Not as always, we're thrilled to be joined in our- Look guys- As always in our hearts. I got a lot of tales. Thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests, a very funny comedian, the host of the podcasts,

Starting point is 00:07:40 the fratcast, Pod Yourself the Gun, Pod Yourself the Wire, Bad Hasbra, which happens to be the most moral podcast in existence. Please welcome one of the funniest people doing it anywhere. It's Matt Lee. Matt Lee. Matt licks my butt and makes me cum. Wow.

Starting point is 00:08:03 Where the eagle flies. You know, that's, I didn't have a second verse. Just when you guys do a song, I feel like I have to do a song and mine was very dirty. Yeah. Well, hey, you did it. You did it. That's one of my favorite song parodies in the game. Thank you. Thank you, buddy.

Starting point is 00:08:18 Thank you. I appreciate it. Licks my butt and makes me come. I mean, that's a banger. I mean, you know, it's fucking Officer in a Gentleman. It is, but it is. Yeah. banger. I mean, you know, it's fucking Officer and a Gentleman. It is what it is. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:08:27 Come lift us up where we, I can't even remember the original lyrics. Yeah. Wait, was it not Matt Licks My Butt Makes Me Come? That's what it was. It was Joe Cocker. I mean, it's a Joe Cocker song. Of course it's Matt Licks My Butt Makes Me Come.

Starting point is 00:08:40 That's a Joe Cocker song? Yeah, Joe Cocker. Isn't it Joe Cocker? Now I'm nervous. I don't know. Isn't it Joe Cocker now? I'm Nervous. I don't know. I guess I only know the verse and I wasn't hearing that tray I I guess I really don't even know the verse just the chorus where I don't get trademark knows what tomorrow brings You know Jennifer Warren's and Joe Cocker. Yeah, you're a cocker up where we yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet if we try off mic. I bet if we try, we can all end up alone. It's the word joker with cock in it, is what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:09:27 Mm-hmm. Hell yeah. We'll workshop this. I like when this podcast turns into the frark cast. That's my favorite. I feel like a bad influence. Jack O'Hacker. Jack O'Hacker. Matt, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

Starting point is 00:09:44 First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about some of the comments. Miles, I don't recommend this for your mental health, but you have been reading the Fox News comments sections to see how people are responding to. Because it's, yeah. Yeah, we'll see. The LA defending people in LA defending themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The LA defending, people in LA defending themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:06 And so we'll talk about that. And just the general tenor of the media on this story, the high standard for good behavior being set for protesters and only protesters. Yep. Absolutely no concern for how the military police is shooting people point blank. We don't get a ton of those stories. Those are just bad apples. Yeah. We'll talk about Elon Musk has some regrets.

Starting point is 00:10:35 We'll talk about that. We'll talk about mainly, I think the star of our show is this new guy on Instagram. Yeah, Project Mike or Planet Mike. Planet Mike is going to teach us all how to be man. Yeah. Oh, finally. Yeah. I fucking.

Starting point is 00:10:50 Well, cause you always hear it's like, isn't about crypto or lifting weights. Like there's it, but how do you open a fucking water bottle? How do you do? And this guy is, how do you pick up a suitcase? If you lose grip of it in the airport? There's a micro gestures of masculinity that he can't even walk normal. He's become like rigid with toxic masculinity, like a poison. He can't even move through space normally because he like has this weird world where

Starting point is 00:11:22 like we're all just judging how manly each other are at all times. Oh, you're brushing your teeth kind of feminine. Yeah, I'm not joking. I put three clips in here. There's other ones that are so ridiculous. Like how you even hold a folder when you walk into a meeting. Like it's so like this guy is, must be in a just you're sneezing like a bitch.

Starting point is 00:11:46 Absolute state of terror in his own mind. That he's not a man. I'm not a man. So we'll, we'll talk about that plenty more. Uh, but first, Matt Lieb, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Yes. I just this morning searched Dr.

Starting point is 00:12:04 Eugene Landy. And if you don't know who that is, the reason that I was searching that is this was Brian Wilson's old therapist. Oh yeah. And Brian Wilson just died. Passed away. All right. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah. And so I was like, God damn it. That sucks. Cause I'm a big Brian Wilson head. And I was like, Hey, it. That sucks. Cause I'm a big Brian Wilson head. And I was like, is Dr. Landy still alive? That would fucking suck. Dr.

Starting point is 00:12:30 Landy was still alive and he's not, he's dead too. This was a guy who basically became his therapist and then proceeded to milk him for every dollar he had. And started like trying to produce albums for him, like would force him to go into the recording studio and he like would basically sign over the rights to the songs to Dr. Landy. And he even wrote a autobiography, Brian Wilson did, called Wouldn't It Be Nice, where towards the end he starts talking about, you know, how everyone is trying to break him up with this wonderful therapist who saved his life, Dr. Eugene Landy. And it's like his entire family. And at some point while I was reading, this is the first time I'd ever read a book. Yeah. A book.

Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah. I was like, damn words. Just keep going. I had so many varieties of boy. Yeah. I'm pretty much just into autobiographies. I like it because they're unbiased. But while I was reading it, I was like, god, it's kind of weird. At first, I was like, yeah, I could see why Mike Love is trying to make sure that he's not healthy, that Brian's not healthy.

Starting point is 00:13:38 But his wife, his ex-wife, and his kids, this seems weird. And then I had to Google it. And it turned out, no, this guy had basically like ghost wrote the book for him and just wrote himself as like the hero of the book. So anyways, I just wanted to make sure. So he's like a parasitic, like zombie fungus who just basically attached himself to Brian Wilson is like, now I control the entity known as Brian Wilson. That's fucking wild.

Starting point is 00:14:01 He was fucking cordyceps dude. And, uh, he, yeah. And he just like turned him into a zombie. Uh, but then he broke out of that and, um, you know, and that for him, yeah, it's wild. Like, as I, like, I saw that news, I only know like the weirdest dumb shit about Brian Wilson, really nothing to do with his music. Like, you know, funny, like, well, yeah, anyway, weird, weird comments. Like the walk hard version of Brian Wilson. Yeah, exactly. Like, I don music, like, you know, funny, like, well, yeah, anyway, weird, weird comments.

Starting point is 00:14:25 Like the walk hard version of Brian Wilson. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like I don't know nothing else about him. Oh, he's, he's a fascinating, super interesting guy. And like truly was like a musical genius, but you know, people, I think because it was low key a media creation, his musical genius, it was a lot of publishing.

Starting point is 00:14:46 They were doing PR for him in the 60s, but it turned out to be true. He really was a musical genius and he is, yeah, he's like one of my top idols. It's like that. Yeah. The fact that Mike Love outlived him. Dude, I know.

Starting point is 00:15:01 That sucks. Fucking Kissinger ass. I know. Truly the Henry Kissinger of music The whole story of that band is such a great metaphor for like, you know the promise of The 60s and then like having it rested away So like Mike love was the guy in the band who was like, we sing about babes and surfing, man, with all this weird pet sound shit. Yeah. And then, you know, convinced it like convinced him that pet sounds was a

Starting point is 00:15:32 disaster after it came out. Cause it didn't sell quite as well as like the rudest ones. And then like kind of rested control, basically shamed him into like not really releasing smile and then, you know, took the beach boys over and the end result of that was like the 1980s, like Coke, the most soulless yeah, fucking Reagan. I had like the theme song for the death of American culture. Yeah, just a song about going on vacation like with, you know, it's funny because like

Starting point is 00:16:04 people are like, that's yacht rock. I'm like, that's actually the worst form of it. Like that actually has no flavor. I know it's literally about being on a boat going places. We got Uncle Jesse from Full House on the drums for some reason, like he's like hot. It's so weird that they just, they took what was essentially sitcom lore and like, let's

Starting point is 00:16:26 make it real. Let's actually have John Stamos be in the Beach Boys. And that's because, you know, the Mike Love is a fucking freak. Yeah. Fuck Mike Love. Yeah. Kevin Love. Kevin Love is all right.

Starting point is 00:16:39 Kevin Love is all right. What's, what's the Mike Love is Kevin Love and famous NBA player Kevin Love's uncle, I believe. Matt, what's something the Mike love is, uh, Kevin love famous NBA player, Kevin loves uncle. I believe Matt, what's something you think's underrated? Uh, well, I mean, underrated, I wrote Brian Wilson because I'm very, I'm very much into the whole like Brian Wilson thing. Um, but, uh, underrated, I would say, Oh, is there a way I can say this without getting in trouble underrated? Is there a way I can say this without getting in trouble?

Starting point is 00:17:11 Underrated, I would say the people's ability to gather together on mass to protest, despite the wishes of their elders who tell them that the best thing to do is to write a strongly worded letter. And I'm not saying, look, look, I'm not saying violence is a good thing. And I, but at the same time, I think it is also very underrated. I think that part of protesting, uh, is, uh, working outside the boundaries, uh, of whatever the status quo is. And it is a crime to do like just to walk, you know, on the street and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:17:46 I mean, this is already, it's already breaking laws. I just am like so tired of the amount of hand, uh, finger wagging, uh, at like, uh, you know, anyone who protests anything because they're like, Oh, you know, someone burned a Waymo, you know what? Fuck Waymo. Waymo what? Fuck Waymo. Waymo is a driverless car. It's a deadbeat. It's a goddamn deadbeat.

Starting point is 00:18:11 You want to know who's taking a fucking job? That fucking car right there. Not these people you're blaming for. And with these fucking ICE raids. Yeah. And it's just like the way in which the entire media class and political class, including politicians who I like or immediately fall into the, uh, the like very obvious right wing trap of like, I condemn violence that protests. I'm just like, you know what?

Starting point is 00:18:38 I don't. Yeah. I, I, especially when it's like, there's no condemnation for the violence being done to the protesters or the violence that the protesters are responding to. The rush to condemn the violence by the protesters and not specifically call out the actions. Yes, we know the burning of the Waymo is now iconic. That's the one kind of precise piece of violence they have.'s like that's the one kind of it's all they got precise piece of violence they have and so that's become the central thing.

Starting point is 00:19:08 There's been fucking people getting trampled by cops on horses being shot point blank. One of them was like straight up a journalist on camera and so that one became like a little bit viral but like for the most part it's just the burning of away mode which, to your point, like if you wanted to create a work of satire about our fucking terrible values, that's like, well, yeah, they, they care more about property and like the tech industry and money than

Starting point is 00:19:40 they do about human lives. Like the fact that everyone's freaking out about the burning of a driverless car. Yeah, I can't think of a more victimless crime. My empathy goes to Waymo. It's so insane to even call it violence. It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the biggest thing is the media especially, and I think just generally in the discourse around all this is

Starting point is 00:20:02 there's such an issue with even defining what violence is, what falls under the category of violence, because it's like, well, you know, like Norm, it's like, so that person threw an old man to the ground. You'd be like, that's violent. A police shoves an old man to the ground. Craig gets like, yeah, nothing. You looting the store. That is so violent.

Starting point is 00:20:24 Denying people, denying people the financial opportunities to feed themselves Yeah, nothing. You don't store that is so violent. Denying people, the financial opportunities to feed themselves while enriching yourself. It is crazy. The like inversion of reality that's done in order to make these narratives. Like the idea that it's like one person is a protester doing, let's say property damage, and the other person is doing violence against that person in order to protect the property. And his property damage is considered to be the act of violence.

Starting point is 00:20:55 And to me, I'm just like, I'm just, I'm so sick of anyone falling for these narratives. It's just cause it's like, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if these were acts that were, you know, they're all being like, obviously overblown in the media. But even if there was an actual riot that happened, once again, the onus of keeping the peace is supposed suppose supposedly law enforcement. But if a law enforcement is the one starting the violence, I'm sorry. They're the ones picking a fight.

Starting point is 00:21:33 That is the big unspoken reality that is at the center of the, all those stories. The thing that they will not say like that. Yeah. I was reading a LA times, I think, or no, maybe it was Washington, but I forgot one of those fucking papers that was like doing an account of like, you know, the violence and like the chaos, the roiling crowds. And like, they talked about like people breaking glass as part of the protest. And then like as a throwaway, they had like, and then there was like a storefront window

Starting point is 00:22:02 that was shattered with a like beanbag thing next to it. And they're like, oh yeah, it was probably shot at protesters. Yes. So, but even that one-to-one thing, the police doing the property damage, they're so mad about when the protesters do it. The police doing that while shooting at people is more forgivable and just brushed past as a little piece of fucking context. Yes.

Starting point is 00:22:30 Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And again, like the people who are starting it are the ones who are like going and arresting people for having brown skin and being in a Home Depot parking lot. Right. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:22:43 What is something Matt you think is overrated? Weed gummies. Oh, well, well. What happened? Sorry to say it. Okay. So I just had a bad... I... Here's... Okay. So I was trying to get to sleep.

Starting point is 00:23:00 I had trouble getting to sleep. Sure, sure. And I saw that we had been sent some CBD gummies And I was like, oh this one's like a sleep formula and I like took two bites of it and I was like This is just how big is this gummy? Yeah Well, I know I mean I put it in my mouth. I chewed a couple of times twice on a gummy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, what's it? Yeah Yeah, and then I was like this just is This tastes like actual weed like what's going on here?

Starting point is 00:23:42 And I looked at the thing and it said, you know, X milligrams of THC in it. And I was like, God damn it. I thought it was like just a CBD thing and I'm sober. So I, and I, I, I, this was also my first time even attempting to have a CBD thing, but I was having a lot of trouble sleeping. I was like, yeah, we got these for free. And then I like spit it out and I was like, well, whatever, you know, I, I, I, I'm, I'll be fine. Literally dog.

Starting point is 00:24:10 I was like, all of a sudden, everything started. I was like, I didn't even swallow it. Just like, it was like, went in my gums, like cocaine style. And I was just like, what the fuck? And I started like just, and weed is not good. I don't like weed. I don't understand why people enjoy. I wish I had the blood chemistry of, of like someone who enjoyed weed.

Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah. Okay. Like I was gray for instance. I wish I did, but just, but when I have it, all of a sudden, everything's heightened. I all of a sudden, all the pain in my body is just like, oh, here's, it's like a map of all the pain. And here's your pain. And it was just like everything dried out and oh my God. And anyways, I had a horrible night of sleep because I chewed twice on a gummy.

Starting point is 00:25:04 Weed is overrated. That shit. Make heroin legal and weed illegal. Sorry, Miles. Make heroin legal and safe. Exactly. Miles, straight to jail. I am sorry.

Starting point is 00:25:18 I do make the rules. Sorry. I'm, I am an abolitionist, but in this very narrow context, Miles, straight to jail. Straight to jail straight to jail You're the only guy there though So you're saying cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think things heading in that direction under RFK, right? He has a background of you know heroin addiction dude. That would be like fucking like one of those Like happy accidents type thing where you just get you accidentally get a guy who like makes all drugs legal

Starting point is 00:25:48 and is able to actually help society, but accidentally that would be sick. It won't be that though, because you know, life isn't fair. Mike Lund is alive, Brian Wilson's dead, you know? I guess they have been willing to make heroin legal just in the form of like a pill that someone can become a billionaire off of. Right.

Starting point is 00:26:08 Right. Right. It's like you'll transition from heroin to this thing. So heroin's a gateway drug to this other legal drug. Yes. No, they make it legal to profit off of it. They make it illegal to be someone who enjoys it. They make it illegal to be addicted to it. They make it illegal to be someone who enjoys it

Starting point is 00:26:26 They make it illegal to be addicted to it. They also make it, you know, so hard for people who actually are in pain You know, yeah, so like, you know all the sudden you afford to not be in pain That's the real question We're all fucking up by not starting pharmaceutical companies. Mmm, You know, that's really that's really was on to something He was he was gaining out of Wu Tang album out of it still alive, too It's crazy the amount of people who are still alive. Yeah a shocking number of people It's a shocking number of billions All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Starting point is 00:29:27 my son and my daughter gonna be proud when they hear my old tapes. Now I'm curious, do they like rap along now? Yeah, cause I bring him on tour with me, and he's getting older now too. So his friends are starting to understand what that type of music is, and they're starting to be like,

Starting point is 00:29:41 yo, your dad's like really the GOAT, like he's a legend. So he gets it. What does it mean to leave behind a music legacy for your family? It means a lot to me, just having a good catalog and just being able to make people feel good. Like, that's what's really important

Starting point is 00:29:55 and that's what stands out, is that our music changes people's lives for the better. So the fact that my kids get to benefit off of that, I'm really happy, or my family in general. Let's talk about the music that moves us. To hear this and more on how music and culture collide, listen to We Need to Talk from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast,

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Starting point is 00:31:57 Wherever they are right now, they're at seven 11 and home depot straight up. He was like, you know, gang members and violent criminals, what Trump called the worst of the worst, weren't the sole target of deportations. Federal agents needed to just go out there and arrest illegal aliens. Miller told ICE officials who had come from across the US agents didn't need to develop target lists of immigrants suspected of being in the US illegally. A longstanding practice Miller said instead he directed them to target home depot where day laborers typically gather for hire or seven 11 convenience stores Miller bet that he

Starting point is 00:32:34 and a handful of agents could go out on the streets of Washington, DC and arrest 30 people right away. I mean, you could, they're not going to be guilty of anything. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Fitting your white supremacist ideal of like people who should be arrested. That's it. He's boy. Yeah. And this one, it's like so unrefined.

Starting point is 00:32:56 It's basically like, yeah, bro, there's 30 brown faces out there right now. Just fucking bad them up, man. And in the Wall Street Journal wall street journal reporting from the wall the wall street journal one of the most upstanding outlets I mean they're like yeah right right right it's cuz it's so basic like for the wall street journal they're just like dude you could literally ask any like white dude on the street where the illegals hang and they'd be like I don't know, probably like

Starting point is 00:33:25 a Home Depot. I see them out there. It's like a hack joke. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a hack joke at this point. And this fool is not even a refined racist. He's just like the most basic bitch racist ever where he's just like, I don't know, go to the home Depot and it's a seven 11. It's it's it's like 11 Yeah, that one's seven 11 is wild like he's just I think he's just lumping in anyone He like thinking of like has an actor from the Simpsons or so right? That's the thing that's his idea of a 7-eleven is like well, you know, it's like brown people from yeah We're working at a 7-eleven. What? Probably the only place he encounters non-white people.

Starting point is 00:34:07 Right. Do 11-Eleven and Home Depot. I think this more indicates how little he actually interacts in public because the only two places he can think of are these abstractions that he would never go to. Like a Home Depot, he's like, yeah, Home Depot probably. I'm not, what the fuck am I going to do at Home Depot?

Starting point is 00:34:22 I'm sure I'd never go go into 7-Eleven. We go to, we go to sprouts. Right. Yeah, exactly. It's like, I think it's grotesque to have a whole big gulp. I'm someone who likes to take small tiny bird-like zips. Exactly. Miller, Miller lights. I call them.

Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah. Yeah. Miller lights. I call them. Yeah. The whole like just the discourse around everything, it's so, again, like, I felt like we're right back in 2020 where we're doing the same things over again, Jack. Like you're saying, like, oh, it's on the protesters to protest, Greg.

Starting point is 00:34:57 No talk of the police. Also, people have no idea how oppression works. Clearly, when people live in, like like the areas that are very white and probably affluent enough that they actually know nothing of oppression or struggle in any way. Because I'm going on like Fox News, yes I know not good for my health especially the comment section. Because I'm really because they post articles, they're like, illegal immigrant charged with attempted murder for throwing Molotov cocktail. It was like a photo of a guy flicking a lighter behind a tree trunk. Apparently, I guess he had a Molotov cocktail that landed somewhere,

Starting point is 00:35:37 didn't really bust open. It was really not, I was just like, oh God. Me trying to throw a Molotov cocktail. It was more like he dropped it. It was just like, and you're like, what is like, what's going on? But again, I get scared, drop it and run away. That's what I would do if I was trying to throw Molotov cocktail. I'm saying you're trying to blow out the fucking.

Starting point is 00:35:57 No, no, no, no. So anyway, I'm looking in the comments section there because obviously Fox News is putting the most sensational shit they can put there because the headline had all the buzzwords, illegal alien attempted murder, Los Angeles riots, police. And the con again, aside from the obvious bots that are in there, just like fanning the flames with like the same sort of take over and over again, there's also this like ignorance you see from what I'm again presuming are people who are very comfortable and know nothing of oppression. This one person says, all caps, why isn't anyone asking who is paying for all of this?

Starting point is 00:36:33 Obviously, these protesters don't work and are not using their own money. Find who is paying for this and stop them. No money equals no riots. for this and stop them. No money equals no riots. I love this logic. This logic is first of all, it's telling on yourself because there's just like, listen, when I was at January 6th, someone paid me to be there. Right. All right. First of all, that's why I was there. That's how their economy literally works. Like Ben Shapiro has a platform because billionaires have been funding his career, like Charlie Kirk would not exist as a media figure if billionaires hadn't taken an interest in him a long time ago and been like, he's good for our overall

Starting point is 00:37:18 like future gross tax rate. Like that's, that's why that motherfucker exists. Yeah. So they know that on some level and it's, yeah, seeping into how they view people just responding to, uh, being beaten to shit. Right. But it's just so funny, like to look at a group of protesters and just to be immediately the assumption be, well, I mean,

Starting point is 00:37:45 certainly they're paid to be there because, uh, I mean, who's paying for those signs and it's like, it's cardboard. Right. How much do you think cardboard? It's so abstract to them that they don't understand having your back to a wall and then having to enter physical space to advocate for yourself or others that they're like, well, for me to do that, I'd have to be paid.

Starting point is 00:38:07 Right. Yes. Yes. That's the only way because I, what do you mean? Like you're just getting out there to help people that look like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. That's not how it works. And yeah, again, it reveals no real intellectual understanding of oppression. And two, also no idea how precarious our economy is. Many people struggle to find meaningful life-sustaining work in this country.

Starting point is 00:38:33 You see a lot of social media posts with Americans going on with their lives. You're like, oh, I went to this wonderful thing or whatever. Obviously, go live your life, but please be acutely aware how bad this situation we are in right now, and how it's only going to worsen. And I don't know if it seems like, especially conservatives, have no idea how this sequence is going to play out in its worst form, right? Today, it's migrants and the people that defend them. Tomorrow, it's people that are opposing the regime. Then once things start getting really weird and all of their fucking initiatives start coming to pass, like taking away social safety nets, taking away people who are actively

Starting point is 00:39:10 contributing to the economy and the economy starts getting fucked over, everyone begins to feel that pain except for the hyper wealthy. And then go a step further. What happens when your rural hospital can no longer treat your child's illness or there's no food or there's food scarcity because of tariffs or whatever. Do you think at a certain point you might not be like, dude, I got to fucking get out here and figure something out like my own fucking kid. And do you think the cops are going to look at you and be like, this guy's white. He's okay. Because no, there is no one of us. There is only the wealthy. If you are not them, this guy's white. He's okay. Right. No, these people are, no, there is no one of us. There is only the wealthy.

Starting point is 00:39:47 If you are not them, that's it. The Miami Cuban population is finding out in real time. They thought, well, we're Maga. We're the good. They don't give a fuck. They are not in solidarity with you. They're in solidarity with these other oligarchs who are like, bro, we need to Hoover up all this money.

Starting point is 00:40:03 And when these poor motherfuckers start complaining and try and act up, we're going to beat the shit out of them. And that's, they keep it moving. It's that simple. Yes. I think if you don't think you're next, you, it's just, uh, you're short sighted, uh, ignorant and just a fool. And, and, you know, it was like proven earlier this year when they just started arresting and attempting to deport and sometimes successfully deporting students who were writing something that was

Starting point is 00:40:33 positive about Palestine. This is not going to just be, oh, it's just the people who I want to be, uh, you know, oppressed. No, it's going to be whoever the fuck the powers that be decide, uh, is going to be oppressing. It's not going to serve you in any way. And beyond that, I think one thing that people need to realize too, and obviously your listeners realize this, but these people in the, you know, Fox comment section is like, these cops are not your friends. The one thing that is so impressive

Starting point is 00:41:09 in a really twisted way is the law enforcement solidarity that exists, the fact that federal troops could be sent into a state without the request of the governor, without the request of the city that they're being sent to. And the local law enforcement is just immediately like, oh, okay, I guess we're doing this. The fact that they would immediately be on their side. It just shows you that like at the end of the day, they're not going to stand there,

Starting point is 00:41:41 a bunch of LAPD officers and go, we have to protect this city from these federal agents doing overreach. No, they're immediately going to turn around and join the fucking federal troops against you. So no matter what the cops will not be on your side. And they never were. They never were. So, you know, if you put any trust in, in like the cops to do anything, you're, you're completely foolish.

Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah. I mean, I think this is why people have, this is why people are resisting the way they are right now, because, and also these protests are working. If you're really thinking about what the point of this is having ice be occupied by protesters means they are going to be that much slower to hunt down a parent taking their kid to the doctor or someone going to their fucking immigration court hearing so they can abide by the fucking law. And Marines showing up to what they think is a war zone. And they're standing on top of buildings

Starting point is 00:42:33 in L.A. kind of laughing because they're like, well, what the fuck is this? People are playing like maracas and acoustic guitar. What the fuck am I doing here? Yeah, like that helps. Ice agents are being pushed out of hotels because the community comes out to make noise and make it impossible for them to rest. These like little victories add up to stifle the morale of these people.

Starting point is 00:42:52 And it's not instant, but this is how it just needs to be slowed down. This is how you're just, this is how a response is going to work. And I think that's also a really good reminder of like why that, this big, beautiful bill of nonsense also has to be stopped because Stephen Miller, Teenage Mutant Ninja Gurbals is asking for a fucking billions more in ICE funding. So this is, this is how it's at right now with the current levels of funding and they're saying, bro, we need to turn the money hose on so we can kick this shit up to 11. That means more salaries to hire racist nut jobs.

Starting point is 00:43:25 Who want to alarm his police officers to expand detention facilities and to turn the kidnapping infrastructure just up another level. So it's all, oh man, it's like, please, please, please just, this is, this is kind of all why it all has to come together. This is why people are resisting. And then just question what's going on or not really examine what the violence is that's being done to the people of Los Angeles, people all over the country. Now at this point, because there's raids in Omaha, there's raids in San Antonio.

Starting point is 00:43:55 And now Greg Abbott is like, I got, I'm having the national guard too. It's it's come it's everywhere. It's going to happen. And, and again, it seems like everyone's built-in response as humans as like the decent American people is to show out and try and be like Yeah, what the fuck is going on? Yo, what is this shit? No fuck out of here. Fuck out of here I do wonder you know, we've seen how ineffective the mainstream media is it just you know that they're Their main narrative doesn't like catch on with people just because they're saying it anymore, right? Like they're not going to convince people that this is fine just because

Starting point is 00:44:30 they're ignoring the actual cause of the protest and just focusing on the protests. I do like to Matt's point, like the shit that like conservatives have claimed are their values for centuries. Obviously, some of them are going to be like, yeah, I mean, it was actually white supremacy, guys. Yeah. That's definitely a big portion of it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:44:55 But I also have to feel like there's a sizable portion who's like, wait, no, they're doing the thing that we were always saying we were worried they'd do, where they come in and try and take our guns and our rights away and sending federal troops in. Isn't this why we raised militias at a time when they were completely unnecessary for decades? Yes. Like in the fucking, during the Clinton and Obama administration? Yes.

Starting point is 00:45:24 Aren't some of these people just going to be like, well, this, this is fucking crazy. I feel like I've only seen more response from like MAGA libertarians. Yeah. Right. Like those are some of you are like, well, hold on now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm an insufferable libertarian

Starting point is 00:45:37 because I'm pretty consistent with how insufferable I am about being a libertarian. It is wild just to see, I mean, it's not surprising at all, but it's like, it's still, it is wild to see that level of hypocrisy where you're just like, oh, you guys, it was never, you guys were never like, worried about, you know, totalitarianist, you know, government regimes. You just worried about what if they were woke? You just worried about what if they were woke? Yeah, like what what if it was a blue-haired? It's just a them who was you know in control of ice and it's like, you know They as long as the Nazis control the Gestapo they're like cool Yeah, as long as they're doing it in the name of racism. Yes Yeah, the fear of a black planet. Yeah. Yes. Straight up. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:25 The second amendment is to fight against tyranny people. Where are you at? Yeah. But again, tyranny doesn't, tyranny doesn't exist for them. You know what I mean? That's like the, the, the way they're looking at it, it's just too abstract. They're just like, yeah, I don't know. Tyranny is the name of my white daughter.

Starting point is 00:46:43 Tyranny. Yeah. Oh yeah, Tyranny doesn't happen to like people of color or LGBTQ, no, that's just, no, no, no. That only happens to me in a very narrow context that when it happens, I won't even know actually. I love it. Don't tread on me, tread on them.

Starting point is 00:47:00 Tread on everybody else. Oh, I'm fine with treading. Y'all tread on. I love the snake, the snake pointing to another snake to step on. Yeah. We need to do that. Don't tread on me. Stomp on the bear.

Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah. The snake. Yeah. What the hell? Isn't the snake getting its ass kicked in that flag? It like that snakes are constantly getting their ass kicked on flags. I gotta say. Not.

Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah. Snakes are always in someone's talents or being stepped on There's never like a rule so hard. Yeah, make about to be devoured Yeah, there's not enough like snakes who are I don't know just like chillin Yeah, you know eating an egg the tyranny one. It's like cut in thirds, right? Yeah, this snake is fuck snake Yeah, yeah, if I had to pick up the pick up the thesis statement of flags, it would be fuck snakes. Fuck snakes. Fuck snakes.

Starting point is 00:47:49 This is you, asshole. You're a snake. But yeah, just there's this detailed report from the Wall Street Journal about just how unjust all these sweeps are and how slapdash and racist the policies are. And then you look at their lineup of opinion articles and it's like Democrats make Stephen Miller's day the editorial board. The LA riots hand Republicans a political edge. Jason L. Riley. Is anyone going to hold rioters accountable? James. I'm sure you will.

Starting point is 00:48:21 Yeah, I think they will. Yeah, this is what they do. Should we check in with Elon real quick? Oh, God. I've been wondering where he is. I've been worried about him. Yeah. I've been scared. He's had some long, hard conversations with his reflection in the mirror, apparently,

Starting point is 00:48:38 aka came down. Off the ketamine. The ketamine levels in his bloodstream dipped below levels where he like believes that he's literally flying. And he posted that he regrets some of his posts about Trump, which quote, went too far. Which one? Which one? Specific.

Starting point is 00:49:00 Which one? Presumably they include the one where he mentioned that Trump is a pedophile whose name checked in the Epstein files, but that's, that you like to work with. Yeah. Yeah. That I got elected. Yeah. I got elected, bro.

Starting point is 00:49:13 That guy's a pedophile. And by the way, I helped the pedophile get power. So I'm cool. You're welcome. Yeah. God. And then this comes after an interview with Trump in which he said that he has no hard feelings about the whole thing.

Starting point is 00:49:29 So he's dead also. Did you also see in Rockland County, New York, that election fuckery? That there's a case that's moving up to fucking New York Supreme Court. The New York Supreme Court ruled that these allegations that, like, these allegations of voting discrepancies in Rockland County, New York, were, like, substantial enough for, like, discovered for you to happen. Oh, shit. There were like, there were like ones where like all these people voted

Starting point is 00:49:53 for Kristen Gillibrand, but then no one voted for Kamala Harris. Oh, that is one. Like on the ballots. And they're like, huh? Yeah. Like there was one town where it's like, what the fuck is this? They're like nobody, but they voted for the Democrat in the Senate race?

Starting point is 00:50:08 That is a statistical anomaly. That would be so wild. Like I really wouldn't put it past the Democrats to have the election stolen from them while they're in power. It's like so incredible, such incredible Democrat energy. Yeah, they say, quote, according to the complaint, more voters have sworn in legal affidavits that they voted for independent US Senate candidate Diane Sayre than the Rockland County

Starting point is 00:50:31 Board of Elections counted and certified contradicting those results. The complaint also cited numerous statistical anomalies in the presidential election results. They include multiple districts where hundreds of voters chose the Democratic candidate Kirsten Gillibrand for Senate, but none voted for former Vice President Kamala Harris. Y'all. None? None. None.

Starting point is 00:50:50 That is the yeah, that's just the statistical anomaly that just leads to. It's just also funny that I'm also like, I don't want to like, wait, so what is it? Like, did they fuck around? I mean, Trump kept saying weird shit that people were taking like, oh, you got to look into it. But then you have like a lawsuit like this and you're like, hold on, wait, huh? Oh, fuck. Well, I mean, you have to remember, like voting, you know, skepticism has never been a bad thing. It's never been. The problem is, is that Trump

Starting point is 00:51:18 did what he always does very expertly, which is just co-opt a sort of leftist narrative and make it into his own personal shield. Like fake news was something he started saying after it came out that there was a bunch of fake news on Facebook and shit like that. They were just pumping out fake stories. And then straight up the very definition of, like is that taking leftist platforms and ideas and reappropriating them for purposes of power? Yes, yes.

Starting point is 00:51:53 And it was like, you know, the obviously the 2000 election was something that heavily contested. Even 2004, there was some fuckery with the, you know, the, I think, Ohio voting booths or whatever the fuck. Like the fact that there is election fraud that can exist is not something that, you know, it's, it was the fact that Trump poison-pilled it for everyone who's a liberal because all of a sudden they found liberals going like, no, our elections are safe and secure. And it's just like, no, our elections are safe and secure. It's just like, okay, all right, come down.

Starting point is 00:52:27 I understand Trump is lying about stuff. He just makes it up and hopes it becomes true. But also, yeah, no, this sounds like fuckery to me. I wonder if they're getting there. They got to stick together because now this lawsuit is moving around. Yeah. They got to make shit right. I mean, obviously also so much of his wealth depends on government contracts, so he can't

Starting point is 00:52:49 really just... I feel like that's the one. He can't shit where he eats. Find the guess. He just wants to keep getting rich the way he's been getting rich. Trump also just said that he's open to mending things. He said, I think he was mistaken. People make mistakes.

Starting point is 00:53:04 No hard feelings. Guys got a problem. I also need him a lot. We kind of need each other in this fucked up way. Oh, God, it's awful. I just, you know, low key, I think we're all hoping for some sort of Thunderdome situation. But now it doesn't look like it. That that is how Elon Musk's dad is his dad's name, Errol Morris. Errol, Errol Musk, right? Yeah. Oh, sorry. Errol Morris is the film.'s dad, is his dad's name Errol Morris? Yeah. Errol? Errol Musk, right? Yeah. Oh, sorry.

Starting point is 00:53:27 Errol Morris is the filmmaker. Errol Morris is the filmmaker, but our writer, JM, wrote Errol Morris. And I was like, wait, what's so fun? His dad's Errol Morris? His dad's Errol Morris, the great documentary filmmaker? Errol Flynn? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:53:41 But Errol Musk said, this is just alpha stuff. His dad, his son having a temper tantrum online, uh, was just alpha stuff. Very alpha. Yeah. We all look at that. Gorilla is fighting for dominance. Yeah. And being like, no, I won for you.

Starting point is 00:53:57 You're a pedophile. I didn't need him. You're a pedophile, which by the way, his favorite, his favorite claim to throw out. Yeah. I mean, anyone who's seen a gorilla's in the Mist knows that's exactly what gorillas do. They stop and they go, you're a pedophile, motherfucker. Behind a keyboard and call each other pedophiles until one of them apologizes.

Starting point is 00:54:15 Yeah. Jesus Christ. There's also this headline too, because during that tweet storm, he was talking about how Trump needs to be like, he needs to resign and like, I'm backing JD Vance. There are people are saying that's also made Trump really paranoid. Oh yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:31 He only, he only brought JD Vance on the ticket because of Musk's pressure. Yeah. And so he's just like, now he's kind of like some Rick Carlyle ask head games. It's Tony Soprano when everyone's laughing at his jokes scene. Yeah. He's like, no, it was bro. It's Tony Soprano when everyone's laughing at his jokes scene. Yeah. He's like, no, it was a tough stretch of the game. They had their best defenders in there because Brunson was on the bench.

Starting point is 00:54:54 Yeah. You know, that's the NBA, deep cut NBA reference. Deep cut NBA. Those head games where you just slide something in and the person's like, fuck, you have to work about worry about JD. I mean, I'm sure like that. Once that was said, I was like JD Vance is pleading with Elon Musk behind the scenes to apologize and take his fucking tweets down because he's fucking Vance

Starting point is 00:55:17 on bro. He's catching not up to it, man. No, yeah. He's a yeah. We're surprised these opportunistic motherfuckers bro. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't mean they'll do it well, but they will fucking they'll show their ass for sure. Luckily, I think Trump, one of the geniuses of Trump, unfortunately, is his ability to like surround himself with like the most rizzless motherfuckuckers in, in like, you

Starting point is 00:55:45 could imagine and how not attached to him, they're just so weak and, you know, pudgy like, you know, like, uh, I think Elon is only strong because of the money, but personality wise, Riz wise, he has nothing. He's just a negative 69 Yes, he is unlikable You know to the max so that's I'm not worried. What is a negative 69? Would that be like you try to suck your own? Of all the levels he's just down to a negative 69. Oh, that's just where the meter landed, dude.

Starting point is 00:56:26 I don't know. Oh damn. So you had nothing to do. It was out of your hands at that point. No, you know, maybe it'll be like 420 a share. Yeah, we don't want to impugn the good name of 69. That's right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah negative 69 is when you guys do you're doing a 69, but everyone just goes peepee Oh, yes, and you're like no not peepee. No, that's not what we're supposed. Oh, no. I don't like this

Starting point is 00:56:56 69 it's like, you know, it's sort of a human centipede or yeah human centipede closed loop negative The negative 69 I The negative 69. I think we have our screenplay idea, you guys. I mean, they made a whole feature film out of the human centipede. That's right. Negative 69. You can pretty much do anything. Let's take a quick break while we work on the script and we'll be right back.

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Starting point is 00:59:38 when they hear my old tapes. Now I'm curious, do they like rap along now? Yeah, cause I bring him on tour with me and he's getting older now too. So his friends are starting to understand what that type of music is. And they're starting to be like, yo, your dad's like really the goat.

Starting point is 00:59:53 Like he's a legend. So he gets it. What does it mean to leave behind a music legacy for your family? It means a lot to me. Just having a good catalog and just being able to make people feel good. Like that's what's really important. And that's what stands out is that our music changes

Starting point is 01:00:08 people's lives for the better. So the fact that my kids get to benefit off of that, I'm really happy or my family in general. Let's talk about the music that moves us. To hear this and more on how music and culture collide, listen to We Need to Talk from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRad heart radio at Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast You say you never give it to a meltdown And never fill your feed with kid photos

Starting point is 01:00:32 You say you'd never put a pacifier in your mouth to clean it and never let them run wild through the grocery store So when you say you'd never let them get into a car without you there No, it can happen one in four hot car deaths happen when a kid gets into an unlocked car and can't get out And we're back. And like we said before the break, you know, a lot of, there's a lot of masculine shit happening at high levels, high level, high level mask shit. Elon Musk, Donald Trump, having really caddy bitchy wars of words on the internet, apparently just like gorilla shit. But I, I have trouble with the small, the, the micro level masculine gesture. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:32 Yeah. How do I enter a room? Yeah. How do I do it? My hands. What do I do with my hands? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:37 Uh, apparently this guy can't be helpful on that front, but we have somebody who's a new influence influencer who can help me be man Yeah of self-proported gut health and hormones coach who's a root cause focused gut and hormone optimization via blood work diagnostics and school analysis They're always got guys. Yeah, they're like the problem is your gut the poop Right now I

Starting point is 01:02:11 Specialized in stool analysis. Should I put it in some kind of sterilized specimen? Right here right here So this guy posts all kinds of shit, it's not just like, you know macho stuff It's also like how to fucking just like, you know, macho stuff. It's also like how to fucking just look ripped on steroids, I guess, based on what I'm seeing. But he's got all kinds of lessons on, like, again, like you said, the small, the finer points of being a man. This first one is him showing us how to open a water bottle, y'all, because none of us,

Starting point is 01:02:43 nobody on the earth is open in a water bottle this macho kind of way. The way you open a water bottle can absolutely ruin your first impression. Look at, just to tell the listeners what he's doing. He does like a cool walk towards the walk and talk towards the camera where it looks like it's his 15th take and he's forgotten where feet and arms are supposed to go. And it's just like, he's trying to be nonchalant,

Starting point is 01:03:11 but it's like he's at the clinic from Seinfeld for the people who don't move their hands when they walk. Right. He's just like, yeah. So this is cool in how I talk to people. But then he will do a straw man version of like what you look like doing the thing. It looked like Smeagol, like opening a water bottle, like hunched over. Like, yeah, every time it's it's hunching over. He just like has people being like, oh, let me open this one. I don't know how to do it. So that was the bad example.

Starting point is 01:03:47 That was the bad. And this is the fucking, this is how you man the fuck up now. Thank you. Got a grab bottle from the bottle and I'm twisted from the bottle. Oh yeah. Take a drink.

Starting point is 01:03:58 And then take a drink and then slam that shit on the ground. And then take a drink and then slam that shit on the ground. In the middle of a hotel lobby. Fuck yeah. It's just someone else is like, what the fuck? I gotta clean this up, man. in the middle of the hotel lobby. Someone else is like, what the fuck? I got to clean this up, man. You want to communicate to the people around you that you have severe anger problems that far from being resolved, you're not even aware of your, your, you're just mad at a water bottle.

Starting point is 01:04:23 That's how you be man. I love how like, like this is like such micro this literally what he's teaching you is how to be more micro aggressive. Microaggression lessons. You need to be more microaggressive. Yeah. Okay. You need to walk homophobically, you know?

Starting point is 01:04:45 I'm from Oklahoma. I just made up this Russian accent. Yeah. Like, be more manly. Like, FPS Russia, that YouTuber from back in the day who pretended to be a fake Russian guy. Oh, I miss that. Yeah, this dude would do all the... Yeah, anyway.

Starting point is 01:04:59 Rip the girthy bottom of your water bottle. Yeah. And then twist. Yeah. Like you're breaking a simps neck. You're like, what? Dude, what the fuck is this? Or doing some shaft action when you're, I mean, sorry. When you're working out with your spotter friend.

Starting point is 01:05:18 Matt, you're a tall guy. I'm sure you probably have, maybe have trouble approaching a dining table. Oh, absolutely. And how to sit down with it because you're so tall. Well, here's just a lesson for anyone tall or short, whatever. This is how you fucking approach a table to sit the fuck down like a man. I've always wondered. I mean, you're a wonder what it looks like.

Starting point is 01:05:37 My favorite line. I'm going to take a seat at the dinner table. Most of you will be leaning over the chair like a bitch. Okay. You walk. Okay. He literally bends over the chair Everything he does in the like don't do it thing is it's just like very nebbish II Like his whole thing is like don't move chair like a Jew. Move the chair like a strong Christian man. I don't know why, but I'm like, there's low-key antisemitism. It is antisemitic.

Starting point is 01:06:12 For sure. I don't know how. Every micro gesture is... I don't know how, but it is. He's communicating like Woody Allen. Yeah, right, right. I'm glad he got a moving chair. I got a moving chair over here.

Starting point is 01:06:28 No, don't do this. Do it like a Cossack. Here's a tip for you, Matt. We're coming in. Aw, look at him pulling it under you. Make it look effortless. Make it look like that chair serves you. Make it serve you. Look at that. Yooo. How does it look?

Starting point is 01:06:44 How does it look? How does it look? I like that you got insecure at the end there. How does it look? I was really hoping for the second half of the video was he just going to throw the chair out of the window and say, fuck you dad. Like this would be a really great parody like video to do. This guy is almost beyond it, but it's so funny. Like this would be a really great parody, like video to do. That's like, this guy is almost beyond it, but it's so funny.

Starting point is 01:07:09 Right. Where you're like, your daddy issues just boil over every time you do one of these videos, cause all you can do is hear your dad's voice in your head. Doesn't look like a man, Michael. I am man. You are one who's not man. You are one who's never been man But there's his walk look a little bit like stiff Like he's like thinking about what to do with his not just his hands cuz that's what I do

Starting point is 01:07:34 But I feel he doesn't know what he's thinking about what to do with his legs. It's like it's like John Wayne shit himself It's kind of a cowboy but he's not even good at it. Because again, every movement it's going through is like toxic masculinity super processor. Be like, oh, much pressure. That's gay, that was way too gay, that was way too gay. That wasn't a man shit. You're fucking, you look like shit.

Starting point is 01:07:57 You look gay, fuck, I look like shit. Oh, fuck, oh, fuck. Oh no, I'm breathing like gaily. This is him now. I want you to breathe more straight. Here's a quick one just for people who are in the business world. Do you ever think about how you ever hold a fucking folder, you loser? Here I am, grabbing it like an ape and coming to business meeting. Make sure not to use underhand grip when carrying a folder.

Starting point is 01:08:23 Okay, he's basically saying, don't hold it normally. Yeah, I don't, I don't, it's like- Make sure not to use underhand grip. People will think you are throwing softball, which is only for girls. Yeah, this isn't, I know this pitch isn't a fast pitch, softball reference. I can't even tell what he's saying not to do. Does he give us the demonstration? Yeah, I know, he just said, you look like an ape?

Starting point is 01:08:44 Again, there's always some, you look like an ape again. There's always some it's like this time it's I think anti-black racism. Yeah. I don't know. I think what do you say? He said, do it like an ape. I thought I would expect that from this talk about like sometimes, you know, prime mates or alpha primates are just, you know, I'm a man.

Starting point is 01:09:00 Yeah, they just start tweeting. You're a pedophile at each other. But in this case, I think Ape is is bad. Oh, bad. OK, so I so that's the second half could be anything, guys. Let's see. Making it all about the folder, but not about you're making it about the folder, the folder approaching the business meeting in this manner. Whoa. You hold it from the top, dude.

Starting point is 01:09:23 It from the top. Do anything. How does it look? How does it look? How does the fuck? You hold it from the top. You didn't do anything! How does it look? How does it look? How does it look? I don't know, dude. You look really insecure, man. You look nervous as hell, dog.

Starting point is 01:09:31 You look shook, bro. Dude, I love that the folder is just a fucking resume, and it just goes like, from 2016 to 2025, was man. Okay, well, like we said, I think, you know, for this fee of man business. Yeah. So anyway, well, this Petco, we don't need you to bring the resume into. Okay.

Starting point is 01:09:55 Okay. Well, uh, thank you planet Mike. That that's, that's, that's thanks. Um, and lastly, I know you're, you know, it's summer, might be doing some traveling. You might be walking around with a suitcase. God forbid. God forbid your carry-on bag slips from your grip and falls on the ground.

Starting point is 01:10:14 And you have to pick it up in front of people. That one is so specific that I'm like, this just happened to him the other day. Oh, you know how you were saying you like, you'll replace shit you've done in your life. Like what the hell? Why did I? Yeah, I think we all do that just like weird ass moments. Yeah, this is apparently this was one of his most humiliating moments as a human being.

Starting point is 01:10:35 Oh, he dropped it. Lean over it. It's always about the leaning over. When I shift, I'm not putting my head there and then moving. The proper way to do it, get up, shift the whole body with your head, continue the movement. And it's pathetic if you drop some and you start stop being looking and acting frustrated. Stop being and looking frustrated. You can tell he kind of gets mad too. He's like, stop being looking, is what my dad said.

Starting point is 01:11:08 Yeah, dude, this is very insecure. Like that is for sure just something he did and just spent 20 minutes in the bathroom going, fuck, I must make content out of this humiliation. Yeah. Otherwise everybody, he thinks that other people are making videos about what he just Gonna be making videos about the way I bent over like full

Starting point is 01:11:37 Back it's just so funny like and the comments they're all just fucking taking a dump on this guy They're like, of course, they're like, yeah, dude, they're like honestly a real alpha wouldn't even drop that shit. I mean, it is a weird, like it's a rolling suitcase. Real men just leave the suitcase if they've dropped it. Ruin his life with advice that he's like, you know, he's going to internalize cause he's so insecure. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Yeah. When they go to business meeting, they actually don't sit down. They refuse to sit because that's a sign of weakness.

Starting point is 01:12:07 You actually have to hover over the person you're meeting with. You challenge the hiring manager to an arm wrestling competition. Exactly. And if they refuse, punch them in the throat. Yeah. You discus your folder at them from across the room. And if you don't strike them in the throat, fucking lose. If you can't throw it high, you're going to lose. Yeah. You discus your folder at them from across the room. And if you don't strike them in the throat.

Starting point is 01:12:27 Exactly. Fucking lose. If you can't throw it hard enough to behead someone with how far hard you throw that folder, then you don't deserve the job. You're not a man, dude. Yeah. They already got to him with the water bottle because somebody told him that he had to spike it after a single sip.

Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah. He's like, God damn it. This guy's going to die of thirst. Damn. You're taking multiple sips off that bottle of beer. I don't know about that. Only take one sip or else people will think you're feminine. This is just so funny because like it also confuses so many people that

Starting point is 01:12:58 comments like is this has to be satire, right? It does almost feel like it, but when you look at on the balance of all his other content, which is so like macho focused weight it. But when you look at on the balance of all his other content, which is so like macho focused, weightlifter shit, you're like, no, this isn't. But again, like you're saying, Matt, this is the perfect opportunity just to do like, just get really hyper specific. You're like, hold on, man. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:13:16 How are you, how are you fucking, how are you holding a pen? Yeah. You think about this and don't hold pets. I know they say the pen is mightier, but it is it takes a sword and just cuts a fucking pen in half. Yeah. The, the don't do is just you sucking it like a dick. The do is just you taking a gun and shooting it and going, right.

Starting point is 01:13:39 Thing is for pussies. Shoot the pen. Shoot the pen. Oh my God. This guy's amazing. I kind of love it. I would love to catch him like, you know, in a candid moment just to see if he, you know, I mean, he walks the walk.

Starting point is 01:13:57 Does he actually walk like that all the time? I think this is the future of physical education in the Trump administration. Like, I feel like this is the sort of shit that Trump really believes in, you know? We've seen how he shakes people's hands in that way, where he like tries to pull their arm out of the socket, like he's watched, he's been told things like this and taken it to heart in a way

Starting point is 01:14:16 that is unnerving. So for sure, like I could see this being a whole genre of content, like the, and then you're going to lift the suitcase in one smooth motion, turning like just all the, as this diagram shows. Right. You know, I think like Mark Carney and Claudia Scheinbaum need to just start really working their shoulder and like right arm muscles. So when Trump tries to do that, they're just immovable. That would fucking kill Trump.

Starting point is 01:14:43 He'd be like, what the fuck? Right. Cause you'll see it too. Like there's like that one of McCrone and him kind of doing it back and forth. But I just feel like if he tried to do it, but that arm was just immovable, he'd be like, what the fuck kind of wizardry is this I'm up against? Uh, and then we'd maybe probably lose the tariffs. I don't know. Anyway, just an idea.

Starting point is 01:15:01 Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? I got to learn how to walk better. What's up? We all got to work on our work. I didn't even know I was fucking it up. I do think that the way to completely fuck this guy's head is just to comment on how

Starting point is 01:15:16 unnatural he looks walking because that is something he's already focused on and failing at. And I feel like there's no bottom to the self-consciousness that he might bring to. That's right. Oh, like what it would take is someone to do a frame-by-frame analysis of his videos and point out everywhere where he's actually being very

Starting point is 01:15:35 feminine about everything he does. With like in a bigger muscular dude. It's just like, no, this guy's got it all wrong. Look at that. No, no, no. Soft. Matt Leeds, what a pleasure having's got it all wrong. Look at that. No, no, no. Soft. Matt Leeds, what a pleasure having you as always on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me on the multiple podcasts.

Starting point is 01:15:58 You can listen to Pod Yourself, which is a TV review watch podcast where we talk about Sopranos, and then all the wire, and now we're doing Mad Men. Or you can listen to Bad Hasbara, the world's most moral podcast, to anti Zionist Jews making fun of Israeli propaganda. It's a lot of fun. And yeah, follow me on Instagram at Matt Lieb jokes. Jokes, jokes, jokes.

Starting point is 01:16:22 You got jokes. You got fucking jokes. This guy got fucking jokes on. Think you're fucking got Jokes. He got jokes. This guy's got fucking jokes here. This guy got fucking jokes, huh? I think he got fucking jokes. Oh, I got jokes. That's why I named the account, MatLibJokes. Oh, sick, sick, sick.

Starting point is 01:16:34 In case people didn't know. Oh, okay. Now, that does make sense. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yeah. So, this is just a tweet that I saw that I really enjoy and have to, um, I have to explain it. So, uh, it's at Boobberg LP, Mike Boobberg.

Starting point is 01:16:55 He wrote accidentally signed off an email with bet instead of best. And then there is a Photoshop picture of Don Draper, but he has the broccoli haircut That one has been in my head Oh you guys seen this one yeah, I did see that one I just and I thought about making it one of my favorites, but I just like couldn't find it Good Don Draper with a monkey trapper's hair. Don Draper, Sam Bett.

Starting point is 01:17:28 He killed me. Oh man, so good. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work in media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me everywhere at milesandgray. Find us on the basketball podcast. Miles and Jack, I'm at Boosties. Find us, find me and Sophia Alexandra

Starting point is 01:17:44 on 420 Day F time on 90 day fiance a Couple works of media. I like the onion at the onion calm on this guy I just said it's just a picture of Jeff Bezos cuz you know MG like Amazon owns MGM and therefore the the Bond franchise It says Amazon teases next James Bond or Amazon teases next James Bond will face off against threat of collective bargaining. And at juniper.beer June, who's been on the show before, she tweeted, we need to increase immigration. We have not replaced enough white people yet.

Starting point is 01:18:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That tracks. And also along with the Brian. We will replace you. We will replace us. Yeah, yeah, yeah that tracks and also along with the place you yeah We will replace us Please come replace us Right. So also with the Brian Wilson stuff I only know like a handful of weird facts one of them is this Norbit thing, which I think maybe people do also

Starting point is 01:18:42 At its dings that be sky dot socialist at RIP to Brian Wilson who gave us many perfect albums, but also the perfect interview question. Have you seen any good movies lately? Brian Wilson? Well, I've only seen one in the last couple of years. It's called Norbit by Eddie Murphy. Question, how did you like it? Fantastic movie. Very funny interviewer. What's your favorite movie? Norbit. funny interviewer. What's your favorite movie? Norbit. He's such a king. I just described it. What are you talking about? I just told you on some David Lynch shit. I feel like I can see that same interview happening with David Lynch. Jake Flores tweeted one of those angular urinals and said, putting one of those,

Starting point is 01:19:34 I bought this before he went crazy stickers on this. Do you know the urinals that look like the Cybertruck? Yeah. Let's see. Oh, and then Robbie Calland, K-A-L-L-A and D tweeted, every time I pass this billboard, I laugh because someone with a gambling problem is going to take those odds all day and the billboard says 20% of people with a gambling problem file for bankruptcy. Somebody with a gambling problem is going to take 80, 20 odds all day.

Starting point is 01:20:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. All day. Come on, man. You're not helping. Don't put the odds there. And then I've been trying to read a poem a day and a short story a day and a, you know, unrelated to work essay a day. And I'm failing miserably.

Starting point is 01:20:25 I probably do one of one of those things a day, but I read that somewhere and I was like, oh, that would be a good thing to do instead of social media. There's a good poem called Midnight Nest by Arthur C. That I'll put in the footnotes. The note. It was in the New Yorker. One note.

Starting point is 01:20:41 One note. I just wanted to do it too. No, you did it. You? No. What? No. I just wanted to do it too. No, you did it. You did it. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on Blue Sky at Jack OB the number one.

Starting point is 01:20:52 You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it and there you will find the footnote. Footnote. What? you're listening to it and there you will find the footnote. Footnote. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode and the tweets we recommended, the poems we recommended. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy?

Starting point is 01:21:19 Yeah, a couple of weeks ago we went out on a track by the band Turnstyle from Baltimore Couple of weeks ago. We went out on a track by the band turnstile from Baltimore With like kind of all like 90s alternative vibes. There's another one more getting into their like punk kind of hardcore roots This track is called birds The video is fucking really dope like it's a really beautifully shot video where like it just starts off where these people are like In a nice picturesque field on stage and then it's just like a switch hits and they're just fucking losing it, moshing, stage diving, it's like shot like cinematically, it's really fun. So in a way, I'm really also suggesting the music video to go along with it. This is birds by turnstile. And it is a British translation of the Beastie Boys song, Girls. Mm. Birds, birds, da-da-da-da-da.

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