The Daily Zeitgeist - Psyched for Star Wars: Episode 8, Bummed for Extinction: Episode 6 12.12.17

Episode Date: December 13, 2017

In episode 46, Jack & Miles are joined again by comedian Edgar Momplaisir to discuss the latest in Menghazi: NFL Network analysts, Roy Moore, & then they get in to the Sixth Extinction, The La...st Jedi, the creepy tweet sent out by Netflix, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hi, everyone. Hello. My name is Miles, and that is for anyone who speaks Japanese. But anyway, what's up? It's Miles. A.k.a.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Oh, Miles. My. Oh, hell. Gray. Is that good? Well, you kind of misread that. I think it was more like a? It's Miles. A.K.A. Oh Miles, my oh hell gray. Is that good? Well, you kind of misread that. I think it was more like a Tom Petty lyric. Yeah. Oh my Miles, oh hell yes.
Starting point is 00:02:32 I like it better. Oh hell gray. Well, all right. Hey, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by probably maybe fifth guest, Edmund Monplaisir. Oingo boingo. Edmund. That's what Miles called him and that was a practice episode and nobody will ever hear that so don't worry about that edgar what's happening man i'm just chilling yo shout out to the low energy mob family anyone out there who has been
Starting point is 00:02:59 indoctrinated into the low energy mob family shout out yeah i saw you invited somebody over to the low energy cookout i think i saw that on twitter that's right if, shout out. Yeah, I saw you invited somebody over to the low energy cookout. I think I saw that on Twitter. That's right. If you shout out to me on Twitter with some positive vibes, you are now in the low energy mob family. But if you talk some shit, the low energy mob family is going to come for you. I don't understand what any of this means. It's all very cryptic.
Starting point is 00:03:23 So you're starting a gang of low energy people? That's right. I think that we like to favor high-energy comedians, but let's give some low-energy comedians a chance. For example, who's a low-energy comedian? Who's getting a chance right now? Nathan Fielder. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:36 He's crushing it right now. Brent Weinbach. Yeah, he's crushing it right now. All great. Edgar, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are as a human being? Interestingly enough, search party. I've been searching search party a lot lately because one of my friends told me that the entire second season was available. And I was like, that's not possible. And I Googled it and it was.
Starting point is 00:03:56 The entire second season is available right now. So apparently first season they released everything all at once. And then the second season they started out thinking that they could maybe try it out the the old school way of doing it weekly and then halfway through they were like nah it's got one of my favorite comedians on it too john really no caperland oh okay caperland caperland is in the second season and yes that's crazy she's amazing really hurt like the first season was great i haven't watched the second season, but she was, like, the missing element. Yeah. Because it had John Early in, like, one of the greatest John Early roles ever.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And then, yeah, he and Kate Burlant are, like, perfect. They're bread and butter. Yeah. And also, yeah, so I know Kate personally. So, look, I'm a John Early fan, but I'm a Kate Burlant stan since the beginning. So shout-outs to Kate. Maybe she'll come on one day. Edgar, what's something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:04:47 I think that AV Club's top 20 albums of the year list is overrated. Uh-oh. A lot of albums that didn't make it. Man, some whack shit, man. I mean, I thought Sylvan Esso's album was good, but top 10? For real? And, man, I don't know it just kind of made me mad mostly because they just excluded an album that i really wanted and listen i love
Starting point is 00:05:12 kendrick lamar's damn but number one album of the year i don't think that's true what's number one for you number one album of the year is flower boy that's the creator's go watch his tiny desk concert yesterday it came out yesterday right yeah go watch it like it's insane to think that this is a guy who started off of being like i'm a fucking triceratops and like now he's like doing these smooth r&b rides and just dropping good what's funny you watch him like sort of mature over the years too because i remember like when he was doing the odd future thing and i worked in radio he came through the station i was like this kid is a fucking asshole he's stupid and like you could see his sensibilities over time have like matured and he's less like he's just he seems like he's finding his voice more as artists reward the come up i think that we don't do that enough we
Starting point is 00:05:59 don't reward the come up enough i'm just looking at the rest of this list do i see anything that really i think the national is overrated the national is pretty good i don't know i i like the national they should have put peter matthew bauer from the walkman's album on the sound systems american dream was dope but it's just like hey man that album was five years late yeah i'm not seeing migos culture on here oh they didn't put Well, I guess we've seen it all. Putting Sizz's control on there was dope. But besides that, I was like, come on, guys. So that's overrated.
Starting point is 00:06:32 What's underrated? Donald Glover's amazing come up is so underrated. I feel like we don't talk about enough that this dude started off in a YouTube video called, like, Bro Rape. a YouTube video called like bro rape. That's insane to think that he started off with such a shitty YouTube video and is now like pretty close to EGOT. Like I think he might do it. And that's I've told people for the uninitiated what the EGOT is. It's when you get all four Emmy, Grammy, Oscar and Tony.
Starting point is 00:07:00 And I don't think it's mostly only done by like composers and editors. Very few performers have one. I think Whoopi Goldberg might have one. Maybe Streisand. Yeah, it's very hard to do as a performer. Usually you can do it as something in the background. Like you can costume or something. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I think a lot of composers are usually the ones who are able to do it. You need to start treading those boards, right? Yeah, I mean like Audrey Hepburn, Mel Brooks, Whoopi, Scott Rudin. Let's see. Yeah, Babs, Liza Minnelli, Jerry Fischer. It's very hard to do as a performer. And I think Donald Glover, like, let's just, he was a sketch comedian. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And now he's nominated for multiple grants. Well, I think it's one of those things, right? Because a lot of comedians are musicians also. Like, because they're both inherently art forms that are about timing. Yeah. You know, and I can see how, you know, even for myself, like, I've grown up playing instruments my whole life. But you wouldn't know that because the skill that I more honed or pursued over time was just doing comedy or just having, I guess, an opinion on the internet. I am also a musician.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah. See, and, like, so I think it think it's like good that i think for him it just because he got his foot in the door through acting it's allowed that all those other talents to just like you know he has the time to now like make a great album and like work with great artists and great directors yeah i mean he's i i'm i'm every day sort of in awe of like his his whole evolution because it's wild i don't know if he's the first black renaissance man but he's like the dopest to me right now because that's something that like black people aren't allowed to do like you know we always get mad at rappers when they start acting but we'll let a white dude
Starting point is 00:08:32 do like 10 things at once i've always seen that it's like a white dude playing 10 instruments at once and they're like yeah that's amazing he's a one-man band and this is like one man bands have gotten too much credit in our culture for too long and And then 50 Cent's acting in a movie and everyone's like, you can't do that. Rap about killing people. And it's like, Donald Glover's showing like, listen, we're hella talented. I heard 50 Cent has been putting in good performances in movies I just haven't been watching. He lost a ton of weight to play a cancer patient. Yeah, that was wild.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I just thought he was broke. It was like a movie that literally nobody watched. But yeah, he dropped. He cares a lot about acting. He really wants to be an actor. I've thought he was broke. It was like a movie that literally nobody watched. But yeah, he dropped. He cares a lot about acting. He really wants to be an actor. I've heard he's pretty good. He's just bad at picking movies. 50, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Ferrari. It's 50. Bring it down. I just, I saw Get Rich or Die Trying. And that was last year. You just can't get past it. Yeah, I was like, nah, I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:09:20 But I'm sure, yeah, look, I don't know. We'll see what Curtis is up to. Yeah. Donald Glover was in Derek Comedy. That's what, like. The sketch group. I'm good. But I'm sure – yeah, look. I don't know. We'll see what Curtis is up to. Yeah. Donald Glover was in Derek Comedy. That's what – The sketch group. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Because they were just starting out when Cracked was just starting out. And it was him, DC Pearson, who's actually a really funny dude. Dominic Dierkes. Dominus Dierkes. Yeah. And yeah. But I do feel like that was sort of the cool thing to be, like the way that in the 70s and 80s, like everybody wanted to be in a rock band when they were like in high school and college. Like being in an improv group was kind of the cool thing to be at that time.
Starting point is 00:09:58 To the smallest group of people, Jack. Yeah, right. To the smallest group of people. Because I was not getting days being like, hey, come to my independent sketch comedy show in a theater you've never heard of. Right. People still don't respect him. My Uber driver just laughed at me. He was like, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:10:12 You do stand-up? And I was like, no, it's kind of like improv. And he's like, you should do stand-up. And I was like, all right, man. You mean theater sports? Yeah. You mean theater sports? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Yeah, theater sports are the hot new hip thing that people will be looking back on the way we look back on rock and punk rock in the 70s and 80s. All right, let's get into format. We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world. Take a temperature of the shared consciousness of our species or America at the very least. The temperature is 98.7. Yeah, it's a little, it's a slightly higher. Just a touch high. We'd like to start out talking about the zeitgeist by asking our guest, what is a myth that people tend to believe that is not true?
Starting point is 00:11:03 So Edgar, fix the zeitgeist for us. What's a lie that we all believe? So on the DJ Khaled song, All I Do Is Win, T-Pain sings the chorus, Everybody's hands go up and they stay there and they stay there. That is incorrect. Up, down, up, down. Actually, what he's saying is everybody's hands go up and they stay there and they say, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Fuck out of here. He tweeted it. He tweeted it. He's just like, I don't want to throw another wrench in your childhood. But also, it's everybody's hands go up and they stay there and they say, yeah. So y'all have been rapping this song wrong three years. Does it go back and forth after that? Because doesn't he say it like three times?
Starting point is 00:11:44 And they stay there. And they say, yeah. And then it goes up, down, up, down, up, down. So that makes sense then because up, down, up, down would not make sense if they stayed there. Correct. Unless. Correct. And they stay there and they say, yeah, up, down, up, down, up, down. And then all I do is win, win.
Starting point is 00:12:02 What do you guys think the best usage of that song ever was? It's whenever you do a commercial for an Indian gambling casino. I think it's... They have that... Yo, that commercial... I've seen it on so many casino things. It's like... Oh, because it's all about winning at a casino.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Right. It's a great song. I mean, it makes me almost think like, wow, maybe this isn't a problematic casino. I think it was when Barack Obama did it for the... What is it called? The White House Correspondents Dinner. Did he really? Yeah, he did, 2013. He was just like, all I do is, and he just came out just like hella chill.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah, you can do a little Diddy Bop to that one. Absolutely. Thank you, Edgar, for correcting the official record on that. You're welcome. I appreciate it. We are going to start out, as we have been of late, with Mengazi. Mengazi. Because there have been more revelations and also just more, more to talk about.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Roy Moore, that is. That one. So first of all, the NFL Network, which I could not think of a place that I would less want my daughter to work. It just seems like a problematic place just in concept. So apparently three analysts from the NFL Network have been suspended. Amid allegations of sexual harassment, one of the Marshall Falk is one of the great – I think he was like a halfback running back type players, but. Yes, he was a halfback running back type player. He was a God MC.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yeah, he was great. And apparently a crazy dude who likes to expose himself. Yeah. So what happened here? So this, this woman who was the, her name is Jamie Cantor. She's the wardrobe stylist. So all three of these men, like they were suspended because of their actions towards this one wardrobe stylist at the network. So Marshall Falk is accused of groping Cantor from behind and exposing himself to her in his hotel room.
Starting point is 00:13:56 The other one is Ike Taylor. He is accused of sending Cantor sexually inappropriate photos of himself over text message, which is a very academic way of saying just dick pics. And then the last is Heath Evans, who is also accused of sending dick pics. Again, yeah, I don't know why. How dumb are these dudes? So you're telling me the NFL Network is a toxic boys club? Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, there's nothing to say.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I mean, we couldn't be more. Can't think of a place. I'm surprised this wasn't one of the first fucking plays. Jesus. That's not to excuse it, obviously. It's just, man, so typical. You'd think that they'd want to be like, all right, we got to go against the grain. Play against type here.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Because people expect this shit. NFL's already like kryptonite to a lot of people anyway. And on a wardrobe stylist, like, you're so fucking dumb, bro. Like, that's just so. You gotta see them every day. Right. Like what did Marcel Farkin be like? I'm fitting to grab you by the waist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Remember that Kate Roosevelt song? Anyway. But yeah, groping her from behind. It's, I'm surprised anybody would be left to work at that fucking network. I can't understand the logic behind unsolicited dick pics. It's just like this.
Starting point is 00:15:03 That's evidence. It's just like, you're just like, yo, I want to commit a murder, but tell everyone tell everyone about this murder yeah it's like a photo of you like stabbing a picture of the person you're about to go like how'd you like that picture i sent it's like well this isn't gonna look for good for you in court right trash um yeah it's that whole sort of power dynamic that people seem to like more than I would have expected based on my own experience.
Starting point is 00:15:26 They like to make people look at their dicks or dick. I don't know how many dicks these people have, but. Unless you're that guy from Reddit. Right. That is apparently a thing that gets people going that I was not aware of. It does not get me going. I guess the digital version being a flasher. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Exactly. With a trench coat. That's been a thing for a while that I think is just foreign to some people. But I don't know. Yeah, and most people I hear from are like, yeah, I don't get it at all. So I don't know. Maybe they're lying. Well, you know, these guys have plenty of time to figure that out when they're not on the NFL network anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Right. Not on the NFL network anymore. Right. And so today, as we're recording this, the state of Alabama is voting. By the time you're listening, the election might already be decided. So we're not really going to talk about that. But we do want to just talk about how Roy Moore rode into this election. What what kind of wave he created for himself that he rode into the election on. into this election? What kind of wave he created for himself that he rode into the election on? So he had one final rally where his wife and a Vietnam War buddy of his kind of got together and spoke to he and his family's values and why they're good people. So his wife started out saying, people say we don't care for Jews,
Starting point is 00:16:47 which is, first of all, just the most racist way to describe racism. It's like downplaying racism, like we don't care for. Insert ethnic group. Right, exactly. It's like don't care for is just like downplaying what is like hate. I'm too busy to hate niggers. I'm just too busy but i don't care for them right uh but then she said but we have a jewish lawyer uh to paraphrase i don't know if
Starting point is 00:17:13 that's exactly what she said i think she said something about like our lawyer is a jew oh even worse yeah hey all right when our lawyer lore is a jew right and so is our lord and savior is a jew also if y'all remember that if y'all remember that detail she would not uh remember that detail christ the son of god was also jew so i don't know how i can be anti-semitic i love these those thoughts have never collided in her mind it's just weird i mean like it's it's the same thing that people who typically are racist used to defend their racism like i can't be i have a black friend i have an asian friend i have a gay friend right you know it's like whatever the group you're you know accused
Starting point is 00:17:47 of being prejudiced towards this is a fucking it's like the most elementary defense well i mean i i know a black person and are like i know a jew right there's actually a piece in the la times by a reporter named michael finnegan who raises the question of whether this is actually intentional. Kayla Moore's comments saying one of our attorneys is a Jew could be seen as almost so overtly bigoted that it could be seen as part of a long history, tradition of Alabama politicians in the immediate run up to an election saying something bigoted to sort of stir up their voter base, the racist people that they want to get to vote for them. And that was actually something that I noticed that we talked about back at crack during the 2016 election is, you know, we would all freak out and assume Trump was done every time he said something blatantly racist or sexist, and then his polls would either stabilize or get stronger. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And I just wonder if we're seeing that happen. Like, it's not a bug. It is a feature of the system. It is them using racism to, you know, signal to people, hey, we're on your side. So I don't know that that's a really interesting point that I hadn't thought of until I read the article. But, you know, maybe they're doing the same thing Trump did, which is sort of dog whistling to people who haven our attorneys is a Jew for a long time or a bunch of the stuff that Donald Trump's followers have gotten excited about him saying. So maybe that is actually exactly the point. Well, it makes sense too because Steve Bannon is running this thing from the shadows.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Exactly. And since he was the architect of Trump's victory, he clearly was like, hey, this is actually a good strategy to have to stoke the enthusiasm. And it totally makes sense, too, because Kayla Moore, that was a totally prepared statement that she made. That wasn't like, oh, by the way, like off the cuff kind of thing. She knew she was going to go up there and she was going to say that. So that is a very interesting thing about that. They're using the old Trump playbook. But, yeah, that's just kind of like what that race has devolved into is that these are the kinds of defenses that they have for themselves.
Starting point is 00:20:07 When he's clearly on the surface saying some wild anti-Semitic shit. That's just crazy that they threw a rally for it. That's just something that you can send in like a newsletter. Right. There is a picture of me and my Jew lawyer. And then like everyone's like, all right, cool. Like we don't need a rally for this. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That's so crazy to me. But they are so out of things to cheer for. Like that's the thing. They had to hide their candidate. Like, that's how out of things they are to cheer for. He was standing deep behind her. Right. He was also let's not forget how they met. Right. So they keep trotting her out and putting her front and center because it is evidence of him having a normal relationships, you know, supposedly. Right. But they talked about how they met. He has told the story of how they met.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And Miles, he what happened? He went to like a dance recital where he saw her dance. At what age? She was like 15 or 16. Right. She's a high school student. Yeah. And not a senior.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Always said he's like, and I remembered her. And then when he met her years later, he asked her, he's like, hey, did you ever dance at this thing? She's like, I did. Right. She's a high school student and not a senior. Always said he's like, and I remembered her. And then when he met her years later, he asked her, he's like, hey, did you ever dance at this thing? She's like, I did. Right. And he's like, and that's when I knew. Right. It's like, bro, you literally had your eye on her since she was a minor. Pervy layaway.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Right. Exactly. He's just got that mental image that he can call back to. Yeah. So that supposedly normal relationship, not normal. And moving on with Edgar's theme of them not having much to cheer about. So then he had his war buddy from Vietnam come out and say that he and Roy Moore on one of their other fellow soldiers last day in Vietnam went to a brothel. And the rest of this story is, you know, his account of what happened.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And keep in mind, this is like the story that he has chosen to highlight, to testify to the character of Roy Moore. And he took us to this place, which turned out to be a brothel. We walked inside. I can tell you what I saw. Nervous dry cough. I don't want to I saw. Nervous, dry cough. I don't want to. Yeah, you saw a child prostitute? It was a very peaceful kind of place.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And the boy turned to me in less time than it took for someone to come up to us. And there were certainly pretty girls. And they were girls. They were young. Some were some probably very young i don't know i don't remember that was there long enough okay roy said to me we shouldn't be here i'm leaving or worse out of fact in fact i think those words is backwards and i said right i'm gonna do i said what do i do with the other guy and he said well he stays on his own wow there's a baby crying in the background.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Right. Yeah. Talking about, hey, I can tell you what I saw. Yeah. So to paraphrase, we went to a brothel. There were children, and these were extremely attractive children. And Roy Moore chose not to fuck them. And that is evidence that he is a stand-up guy yeah world war was probably
Starting point is 00:23:06 just like listen man we shouldn't be here i know a mall in alabama that got way hotter why are we here right these girls are trash let's go to this mall in alabama right we should go to denang there's a there's a reason that defense attorneys don't typically bring up witnesses who are like i once saw him not have sex with a child. Right. That's such a wild. That doesn't help. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:28 That that is just not how you prove innocence. OJ held a knife around me a lot of times. Right. And I can tell you, he never stabbed me. Yeah. It's like when you're saying like, oh, he smoked. Like, I know he's a crack addict. But one time we were in this dope house.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Right. There was a whole bunch of rock on the table and he didn't smoke it. Yeah. He just went home. Right. Like, OK, bunch of rock on the table and he didn't smoke it. Yeah. He just went home. Right. Okay. Well, maybe he was already high. Got his fill.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Or, you know, he didn't feel like smoking crack that day. That doesn't prove shit. Or he has a type of crack that he likes or something. It's like, what the fuck? I can't even imagine a picky crack addict. Right. Yeah. I think that's actually not the best metaphor.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Well, again, I don't think even a guy who's a child predator who clearly can't restrain himself, I don't think even has that level of control i mean i'm saying this guy look where'd you get this crack at what street what vintage um and then roy moore extended this logic by uh one of his final media acts was uh being interviewed by a 12 year old girl again just you know using the logic that look he is managing not to assault this 12 year old during this interview right uh so we good right it's like would we allow him to interview with a 12 year old girl if we thought this man was an actual sex crim man niggas are so dumb oh man this is crazy it's just wild it's like you're trolling though too right
Starting point is 00:24:43 it's like oh the accus is he's a pedophile? Well, have him do an interview with a little girl. Just to be like, you know, so it's provocative. Right. But then he showed that he was a true man's man by how he rode to the vote today, right? He came in on a horseback. Right. To fucking cast his vote.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And what was the thing on Drudge Report? So Drudge Report's headline for part of the morning of the election was a picture of Roy Moore on horseback. And it said, broke back election, which was so confusing to me because it's like a teenage insult. But what? Who is it aimed at? Was that the only Western they could think of? I just feel like maybe Drudge has some weird issues that have made that stick in his mind or something. I have no idea. It's the weirdest. It's just such a strange headline.
Starting point is 00:25:34 The pervy. I'm trying to think of something. Yeah, there's so many ways you could have gone with that. Because is Drudge supporting Roy Moore? He has gone off and on supporting him, but this is just so far out of left field. That doesn't make sense. How forgiven would have been a better one. Is that an unforgiven?
Starting point is 00:25:51 Listen, hire me, Drudge. I'm showing. I'm broke. Let's do this. I'm looking for a room to get in. Yeah. Trying to get some of that Russian money. I'll be down to be in any room.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Right. If Drudge Report had a show, I'd be head writer. Oh, yeah. And they would parade you out there and be like, whoa, we can't be racist show i'd be head writer oh yeah and they would they would parade you out there be like well we can't be racist look at our head writer he's from haiti all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back definitely caruana galizia was a maltese investigative journalist who who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
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Starting point is 00:28:53 Subscribe now and listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history.
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Starting point is 00:29:52 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back uh so sometimes the world makes you take a step back and ask big existential questions about uh our species uh and that's i think a healthy thing to do get your head out of the here and now and all the, you know, day to day maniacal craziness and take a look at, you know, what's going on with our species just writ large.
Starting point is 00:30:31 For instance, what one thing that's made me think this way, there's a cigar shaped celestial body that just passed by our planet. It's like light pink and dark pink, like all over. planet uh it's like light pink and dark pink like all over uh it's weirdly shaped like nothing we've ever seen floating through our solar system and a russian billionaire is actually sending uh shit out to listen for radio waves to see if it's an alien ship i'm sorry when you say cigar shaped and then it's like pink are you describing a penis it's not like you're describing a dildo yeah yeah i don't know why i hadn't put that together but that is i just said i'm like oh and then it's like pink. Are you describing a penis? It sounds like he's describing a dildo, yeah. I don't know why I hadn't put that together, but that is... I just said, I'm like, oh, this is going to be a good punchline. It's an alien dildo floating around.
Starting point is 00:31:12 That is honestly what's happening. Oh, and he thinks this is some kind of alien craft. This wouldn't be the first time, though, that people really got excited about some kind of alien structure. No, yeah, definitely not the first time, but it's just a real weird-looking thing. They've shown pictures of it. Here's what it looks like it's like it looks like a dick looks like a giant space dick right big big old space dick i don't think i could respect that alien like he
Starting point is 00:31:35 was like yo i'm gonna invade you be like nah dude your ship's a dick get out my face well but if you are an alien and you had been watching our species from a distance. Right. Like, you see that we make everything into dicks. Like, everything is dick shaped. Phallic, yeah. They know that, like, we have dicks. So, like, they put two and two together. They're like, all right, we need to send something that's going to get their attention. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:56 It's a dick. And that was the show, guys. Yeah. Benghazi. No, so, I don't know. It's probably nothing. But it's just interesting to ask the question, what if aliens are sending giant space dicks to, you know, fuck our world into existence? But we want to talk about something that's a little bit more likely to be happening, which is the sixth extinction, which you might not realize is the thing we're probably living in right now, or depending on which scientist you listen
Starting point is 00:32:26 to, we're on the very edge of if we don't change our ways. Some people think we're actually in the midst of it. So, yeah, it sounds like a Nicolas Cage DVD that no one wants to buy. That's like in that 7-Eleven discount DVD rack. Yeah. Also, who's buying DVDs at 7-Eleven? Not me. What?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Definitely not me. Jack, why are you sweating? Don't worry about it. So there have been, as the name would suggest, five major extinctions. The Permian extinction is the big one in which a whopping 96% of the species on Earth died, which means today Earth is made up of the descendants of just 4% of what once lived on our planet. Is that like dinosaurs? Is that the dinosaur one? So actually, so the dinosaurs died off in what's known as the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event, something that I knew off the top of my head because I'm so smart.
Starting point is 00:33:28 But this one is just – it killed off a bunch of amoebas and also some vertebrates, but killed off a lot of life on Earth. So when I picture dinosaurs all dying off, I, for whatever reason, picture like a giant explosion and then the dinosaurs just are all dead. Right. But apparently there are competing explanations for what happened. But most likely it was over the course of, you know, years that the dinosaurs died off. And it was like changing weather patterns and changing, you know, atmospheric conditions that killed the dinosaurs off. And the same goes for the Permian extinction. There's not like one giant explosion that they can point to and be like, that is what caused it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 It could have been an asteroid impact, flood, basalt eruption, catastrophic methane release, a drop in oxygen level, sea level fluctuations, or, you, or some combination of those things. And so that ties into the sixth extinction, because I think we all assume that we would know if we were going through an extinction event like the dinosaurs went through. But according to many scientists, the sixth extinction is actually already happening right now in the sense that billions of animal populations have died off at an alarming rate. They say it's nearly one third of the 27,600 land based mammal, bird, amphibian and reptile subspecies are shrinking in terms of their numbers and territorial range oh that's cool yeah yeah it's real subtle it's the frog in the boiling water kind of thing bro i knew i was gonna make it to the 27 club i knew it man from the very get i was like i'm not making it i know it i'm
Starting point is 00:35:16 not gonna be 28 i'm in the sixth extinction well it's true too because i feel like i don't know if we talked about on the show like a couple maybe it was a month ago where those german scientists have found that like the biomass had shrunken like at a very alarming rate over the last 20 years like the amount of insects and other things in like the forest and like areas that weren't really being uh interacted with by humans was also experiencing a huge shrinkage in the biomass there so yeah I guess maybe there is something to this whole fucking sixth extinction thing. Right. Can I make a guess? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 We probably are the only ones who are aware of it, right? Like, I mean, I don't know if dinosaurs could talk and shit, but I'm pretty sure there was no dinosaur scientists coming out and being like... No, they had Crossfire actually back then. Right. And they were just... Today on Crossfire. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Debating what was the cause. Does that mean that we can change it, though, because we're aware of it? Well, that's what you would hope, Edgar. You would hope that we would. But just going with some more horrifying statistics. in the extinction event or just in the direct lead up to it is currently estimated at 100 to 1,000 times higher than the base or historically typical rate of extinction and 10 to 100 times higher than any of the previous mass extinctions in the history of earth so this is the bomb extinction this is right we the best this is suddenly we're seeing a drop-off that is way
Starting point is 00:36:45 yeah uh is way steeper than anything we've seen up to this point um so yeah have they said like a guess as to when they think it could happen yeah it's either already happening or so the debate is essentially whether it's too late to start conserving animal species or whether there's still time, essentially. Up to 50 percent of individual animals have been lost in recent decades. Detailed data is only available for land mammals, and almost half of those have lost 80 percent of the range. They're, you know, range that they live on in the last century. range, their, you know, range that they live on in the last century. And billions of populations of mammals, birds, reptiles, and amphibians have been lost just all over the planet. And all of this is a side effect of human innovation. And it's anything from, you know, actually chopping
Starting point is 00:37:40 down forests where the animals live to, you know to industrial runoff to global warming is obviously a huge one that's only getting worse. And it can be super subtle things like there was this frog that the New Yorker writer Elizabeth Colbert wrote about in her book, The Sixth Extinction. bear wrote about in her book, The Sixth Extinction. There's this frog that used to be the only reliable pregnancy test that humans had, because you would take urine from a woman you wanted to find out if she was pregnant or not, and inject that urine into this frog. And if it laid eggs within the next 12 hours, that meant you were pregnant. And so they started bringing this frog with them everywhere around the world. And the frog had a fungus on it that started killing off all these other frogs.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And it's like not something that we could have really known ahead of time. It's just inevitable sort of side effects of human sort of development in human life. Also, shout out to the guy who figured that out. He, for a long time, probably looked like the craziest dude in the village. He was like, no, no, no, no, pee on this frog, ma. Right. Just like going around injecting women's urine into different animals.
Starting point is 00:38:55 That's the sort of thing that you only find out if you have a weird fetish or something. Bro, I think I knocked up this girl. Dog, get her pee and meet me at the bridge. Hey, bring the frog through. Bring the frog through. I got to know for sure. Well, yeah, it's true because a lot of people, when they talk about the sixth extinction,
Starting point is 00:39:12 the thing you're talking about is the global homogenization of flora and fauna, too, of people now because of technology. We can bring plants that were indigenous to know, indigenous to certain areas like anywhere. Right. And like that's just completely unnatural. And like, yeah, because of technology, like we're fucking up the natural process of evolution because we can do that. Because also like we're engineering plants and animals and things like that. And we are like forcing the process as humans, which is very scary.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And like I was reading another thing about like in past extinctions, it takes life 10 to 30 million years to recover. Right. I don't got that time. Yeah. I mean, so the one hope you would have is I think, you know, genetic modification gets a bad rap because we have generally used it to, you know, make things up to this point. But I do wonder if using genetic modification,
Starting point is 00:40:07 we might be able to create new species, like once we're a little bit more scientifically advanced, that can, you know, replenish the earth. But that's obviously a very delicate balance because, you know, as we were saying with the frogs and, you know and zebra mussels are just taking over lakes all over America. If anybody who has had to deal with them knows what a nightmare they are. Wait, what is a zebra mussel? A zebra mussel, they look like barnacles that would grow on a boat. A hull of a ship or something? On the hull of a ship.
Starting point is 00:40:38 But just one, if you get just one into a freshwater lake, they take over and like things will happen. We talked to somebody when I was at Cracked who like fought these for a living. And he said that you would just all of a sudden start seeing boats sinking in lakes and you wouldn't realize why. And it was because there was like so many zebra mussels on the bottom that it just pulled the boats under. there was like so many zebra muscles on the bottom that it just pulled the boats under. Wow. And it's basically, they're almost impossible to fight. They clog up pipes, they clog up just everything and they're sharp.
Starting point is 00:41:18 So you like, you really can't get in there and fight them. So, I mean, it sounds like a lot of it is just because humans have become too goddamn sophisticated that we're basically fucking ourselves up you know they say like a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing right somebody who like is just smart enough to like think they know everything yeah like a 20 year old enough to actually know everything yeah a teenager a 20 year old i guess my hope is that that's the place we are as a species we know enough to like do all this clever shit but we don't know enough to keep that clever shit from fucking everything up like the consequences right but like once we get smarter as a species we might be able to control the consequences and fix all of our fuck-ups i mean
Starting point is 00:41:55 i hope so man i think genetic modification right now is like a very scary thing but it might also save our ass down the road yeah well to save us from ourselves like from ourselves. Like, that's the irony of it, right? Is that we are feeding into this whole fact that we're meddling in evolution. Because, like, yeah, a lot of the things that I've read in terms of, like, our technology getting better is that, like, we are directly interfering with this natural process that brought us here and is possibly going to bring us down. But I guess there is some good news because everything i read is like feels very kumbayash where it's like yes maybe we are the problem but we're also the answer right you know because like i guess it's going to take real sort of revolutionary change in terms of how humans even view their role in the ecosystem because where do we start with that because i mean that shit
Starting point is 00:42:38 like i'm the problem but i'm the solution sounds like something the alcoholic says right right it goes out and like gets way more drunk so right well what do we do yeah i don't think there's anything kumbaya about it because it's not a thing where you're sitting back and waiting for good things to happen i think it's science needs to challenge itself with focusing on things that don't necessarily make an immediate profit but are keeping the human species in existence well and i think also too it's like about really taking conservation seriously restoration very seriously rewilding right you know and like rethinking how again like what our sort of effect is in this whole chain because
Starting point is 00:43:16 like right now a lot of people don't realize too that humans are like obviously the well i don't know what the the proper term was an apex predator or whatever. Like we are by far the, the, the biggest consumers and the biggest predatory force on the planet and no other species in the past has ever had such a distinction. So like, we're also, we're like the X factor in all of this too, because there's been nothing like this before. There's been nothing like humans before. And I, yeah, I guess we got to use these brains to start doing good. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Start giving back. Yeah. And, yeah, I guess we got to use these brains to start doing good. Right. Start giving back. Yeah. And, I mean, the ideal situation is that, you know, we are in a position where we can just focus on saving the planet. But, you know, the reality could be that as climate change ramps up how, you know, our living conditions change, it's going to be harder and harder for us to focus on anything but survival of air species, let alone repopulating the planet with animal species. So that, you know, climate change is no joke, I guess.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I guess so. It's already starting wars, like the whole... I know you were dubious at first. Yeah. Now you're coming around. Yeah. But we talked in a previous episode about how the whole, you know, hell that has befallen the nation of Syria was started by climate change. Yeah. Like it was a drought, a drought that fucked things up. And when there's not enough food, things fall apart.
Starting point is 00:44:39 So, yeah, I don't know that that's a big picture thing to keep an eye on. I don't know what to do except really sigh. Yeah, this story depressed me. Cool, man. Hey, but see, we're arming the people. So, again, when Christmas happens and you've got to deal with your family, and you go, we really need to be talking about the sixth extinction. That's true.
Starting point is 00:45:00 We don't need to be talking about Hillary's emails. What are we going to do about all this biodiversity we're ruining? Right. It is kind of an example of science finally getting their terminology right because global warming is like such a weak ass, horrible phrase. It's like, oh, it's getting a little warm. Better turn the air conditioner on. Right. Whereas the sixth things sounds fucking terrifying
Starting point is 00:45:25 it's like a biblical yeah maybe that will help but again yeah god can we can we help people really realize i think yeah maybe extinction is provocative enough that you gotta hit them where it hurts you know i'm saying that's it and we're not hitting them where it hurts you gotta say listen you guys if this shit gets bad you can can't watch Big Bang Theory anymore. And I bet money this shit gets fixed. Or whatever the Sheldon spinoff is. Yeah, Young Sheldon. No more Young Sheldon if we don't have more biodiversity. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Okay, I'm calling my senator. I heard that show's delightful, by the way. Have you? I have. Really, though? You heard? I have a real cat. You have a very sarcastic look on you.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Because you're sweating again right now. Well, no. I've never seen it. Never seen it. But I just heard? Because you're sweating again right now. No, I've never seen it. Never seen it. But I just heard it's good. He's wearing young Sheldon promotional sunglasses right now. With a bow tie. Yeah, with a bow tie.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Promotional bow tie. Don't have a cow, dude. That's his catchphrase. No, I don't know. That's terrible. That doesn't sound like a young Sheldon catchphrase. Don't have a cow, dude. All right, we're going to take a quick break.
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Starting point is 00:49:32 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
Starting point is 00:49:56 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. So we're going to get into some pop culture stuff uh finally i'm relevant again just just to tease that uh tomorrow we will be bringing some hot fire from super producer
Starting point is 00:50:35 anna hosnier uh so we found out that the mayor of san francisco passed away rest in peace rest in power ed lee is it edwin lee edwin lee Lee. And Anna got this strange, faraway look on her face. And then she started going Agent Kuyon at the end of Usual Suspects, where all of a sudden the stuff is coming together. Oh my gosh. She's like, wait a second. And started saying all these random things out loud, including Shrim boy, something tied to a guy named shrimp boy. And, yeah, so apparently there is some vast conspiracy that is unwinding itself in our genius producer Anna Hosnier's mind. So stay tuned for that.
Starting point is 00:51:22 He also died in a safe way. He died of a heart attack in a safe way, which a public heart attack would seem to be a hard thing to fake as an assassin. But we will see. Anna is going to work it out. Yes. But that's what's going on in the office today. Out in the zeitgeist, some big news is that the first reviews of The Last Jedi are rolling in. And the Metacritic meter says it's going to be great. It's an 87, which is up there with the Oscar nominees right now,
Starting point is 00:51:55 or the movies that are likely to be nominated for Oscars. It is, you know, the first reboot, The Force Awakens, was at like 81. So that got really great reviews and people have mixed opinions on this one. But Miles, I know you said you're not watching any previews. I'm not watching. Okay, so I really love Star Wars. And with The Force Awakens and Rogue One, I sort of just went crazy with the trailers and featurettes or whatever, just trying to get as much information because I've been so Star Wars deprived over the last however many years.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Because obviously, yeah, the prequels were fucking garbage. But yeah, now to see like so many people on Twitter who have gone to screenings and like people whose opinions I respect, like who like good films to see these people get so excited. Like people are really excited about this and just like, I can't, this is great. This, I haven't seen a star Wars movie. They said this could be the second best star Wars movie after empire.
Starting point is 00:52:52 That's fucking, that's a bold claim. Yeah. There's a film critic, Alonzo Doral day, who is a really good critic. I like a lot, uh,
Starting point is 00:53:03 who said he thinks it's third best behind empire and the OG original Star Wars, which is pretty crazy. Well, I'm here to say I don't care. Of course you are. Now tell us why. Listen, you guys, why are we doing this to ourselves? Why are we letting them trick us? Is it any coincidence that this movie came after Force Awakens and is supposed to be just like Empire Strikes Back? We are stuck in a loop of the same garbage movies being played to us over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Let's break it. That suggests that Empire was a garbage movie. Do you think it's a garbage movie? I think it was great. But I don't need to see it again. I don't need it again. I don't think people are likening it to Empire in that it's structurally the same. You could say that The Force Awakens definitely was very derivative.
Starting point is 00:53:51 It was scene by scene. Yeah, it was wild. Whereas this one, people are saying, I think it's because it's such a departure. From what I've read, I don't think that people are comparing the actual content to Empire, but the feelings that you get as a Star Wars watcher, that it recaptured that magic. Right. Force Awakens, I think, got a lot from, like you're saying, people just being excited,
Starting point is 00:54:13 like that nostalgia wave. And we haven't had a good Star Wars movie in ages. Right. And so that came out. Now I think we're at a point where the movie actually needs to be good because there's been multiple movies in the last few years. We're at a point where people could be like, if they see a shitty one, they'd be like, I'm tired of this shit. I don't think that's true, though.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I don't think that's true. I think Disney has gotten us hooked in a way that it's just like they're just like, man, we could put out a movie where it's just a poop with a lightsaber and y'all would come back. I would. You see? And I think that's actually what you're hoping this is about that's why you're not that's i'm not watching i'm hoping yo that is just a sentient doo-doo um i count doo-doo you know what my favorite one was so far rogue one because it was so different than all the other ones and that's kind of like what I want from Last Jedi. I am weeping because no one
Starting point is 00:55:09 wants to stop making these movies. Do you understand the amount of scripts that sit on desk all day long? Because people are funneling money into these Star Wars movies. Well, that's a whole separate issue. Is it separate? I think so. John Boyega, you're not the next Denzel Washington.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Whoa. John Boyega. John Boyega, you're not the next Denzel Washington. Whoa. Whoa. Coming for John Boyega. John Boyega. Oh, Boyega. I mean, credit him. He was in Attack the Block, right? Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yeah, when I first came out, I was like, yo, this guy's awesome. Wait, shut up. You just said this. And just then be like, yo, I like John Boyega. I liked him in Attack the Block. I don't like him in the Star Wars movies. Yeah, no one's the next Denzel because't like them in the Star Wars movies. Yeah, no one's an ex-Denzel because nobody has money to drink on a boat to keep the people around him safe.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I'm excited for this movie because I've been a big fan of Rian Johnson since Brick. I do love Rian Johnson. Which was just the right amount of pretentious for me when I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s, a big fan of film, not movies, man. Film, man. uh he released this movie people should check out if they haven't seen it it's like film noyer i'm still there i'm still yeah i'm such a film buff i love film noyer yeah film noyer's sick french new wavy but it's actually very it's very good it's like i don't know it's like noir meets shakespeare and that it's like written in heightened language
Starting point is 00:56:25 meets like sort of a high school movie donnie darko ish type thing uh it's it's really good and i ever since then i've been like yo this dude's gonna be awesome and uh i don't think he's like fully followed through on the potential of that movie and i'm hoping i'm always excited every time one of his movies is about to come out well he went to tv instead and directed some of the right and directed some of the best episodes of that right i didn't realize that till earlier when you're telling me that now i'm gonna he directed ozymandias from the last season and he directed the bottle episode of the fly where which is which is a bottle episode and in 53 as well. It's a bottle episode where the characters are stuck in a specific location.
Starting point is 00:57:08 So Miles, a bottle episode is one the production is just like, we don't have any money. And they have to write an episode only using one set. Right. Put me in a room. Every one of our... Please showbiz-splain that to me. Yeah, it's true. It's a contained thriller episode, right?
Starting point is 00:57:23 That's why contained thrillers, guys, are the favorite of the studios to make because they don't cost shit. Yeah. is that like doesn't really get acknowledged is that their whole model is built on collecting data about your viewing habits that's the most valuable thing that they have that movie studios don't have they know every moment of everything that you're doing what you're watching what like when you stopped watching it uh you know they they just know a lot of shit about you and they tweeted uh pretty recently i think the other day what did they tweet it said to the 53 people who've watched a christmas prince every day for the past 18 days who hurt you which is wild first of all like don't shame people's binge watching habits and also how are you going to flame people for watching your own fucking movie?
Starting point is 00:58:26 That's like a Netflix original film. Yeah. Is it really? Oh, yeah. It's a Netflix film. And guess what? I have watched it. So I didn't watch it 18 days straight, but I saw it because I like terrible movies.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And it's terrible. It's like a garbage film. But, yeah, it's just a very they really showed their hand, right, is that they could basically find out it's like oh we know 53 people watch this movie 18 days in a row which i think was was also the crazier thing because for the most part like we never knew what netflix knew right and they kept that a secret for a very long time right the idea that they know everything about your viewing habits is all based on you know us assuming that they do because they must because of like how technology works but they never release any of that information even to the people who make the shows for them like you could be the showrunner of narcos and you're not going to know what those numbers yeah comedians who have comedy
Starting point is 00:59:14 specials on netflix were like yo wait what yeah right you're saying that you know that much detail about yeah and it's interesting too because because their whole thing is built off subscribers and not ratings, the fact that you pay in. So the more you can keep an idea of a buzz happening, like, oh, everybody's watching Stranger Things. I better have Netflix so I can participate in the conversation. But if those ratings numbers, I know NBC tried to be, like, they claimed they had metrics that said
Starting point is 00:59:41 that Stranger Things actually wasn't as popular as Law & Order or whatever. And Netflix was like, oh, no, no, there's no way you would know. And that information is incorrect. That just sort of underlines this idea that they need the hype machine to be bigger. Because I know there are shows that people talk about, but I'm sure they're probably more in bubbles. Who knows if they're as widespread as we think. Yeah, exactly. I just don't understand why they're being so secretive about this.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Are they afraid that we're going to find out that their shows are on what they know. So they know that people like Ashton Kutcher sitcoms and they like Westerns, so they make The Ranch. With Rapist DJs co-star. Right, with Rapist DJ co-stars. Netflix, they're able to look, obviously, because they called someone out for watching Return of the King every day for you. And another person who watched one of the Pirates of the Caribbean films. So they know how people are watching and what they watch. I also want to tell the listeners, Jack, and we know this.
Starting point is 01:00:54 We know how you guys also consume our show. And we were shocked. And we're not here to shame anybody. And impressed. We were shocked and impressed. Listen up, guys. There are three people who listen to this podcast on a fucking Zoom. That's insane.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Zoom. The Zoom MP3 player. They are sticking with the Zoom, baby. Yo, somebody is... Okay, first of all, if you are one of these three people, please contact me on Twitter with a picture of you with the Zoom listening to the Daily Zeitgeist. I will try and figure out a way for me to get you an ipod so i can bring you into the 21st century right just just an ipod we just want to bring you to the like 2002 well clearly if you're
Starting point is 01:01:30 rocking with the zoom for whatever reason you like the idea of an mp3 player and yo i respect this shit out of you and if i do too and look if you're older i'm not gonna flame you i'm not gonna retweet it but just prove to me you're that person and look i'm gonna try and i'm gonna try and help you out because like let's bring you into 2017 it just hit me because i was just like why wouldn't he get them an ipod i have an ipod and i was like no i don't i have an iphone wait a minute does this person not have a smartphone right who knows that's why that's probably not i want to know this story and again i'm not here to shame you i think you are this person these people out here they are they're heroes or they're loyal or they know something we don't.
Starting point is 01:02:06 What about the Zune? I've never used a Zune. Maybe the Zune is a superior product and we just have all been hating on it because they chose a bad name and a shitty ad campaign. Maybe they're aliens. If the Zune is amazing, let us know. Maybe they're aliens in a dick spaceship. Maybe they're just aliens flying by our planet in a dick-shaped and colored spaceship. Edgar, as always, it's been a goddamn pleasure, my friend.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Why, thank you. It's been my pleasure, or mon plaisir. Oh, wow. That was smooth as fuck. Is that French for your last name? That is French for my last name. That's cool. Edgar, my pleasure.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Goddamn. Edgar, where can people follow you? You can follow me on Instagram at Awfulgram or on Twitter at Edgar Monpazier. Or you can come check out this very, very dope show I have coming up next Tuesday, December 19th at UCB Sunset at 830. If you live in L.A., please check out my all-black team,ade Currency, along with the all black female team, Obama's Other Daughters. We're doing a Kwanzaa improv show. It's going to be hella dope, hella wild. Anytime UCB lets us take over, we get pretty crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Sometimes someone brings out a gun. It gets wild. Listen, let's just have fun. Tuesday, 830 UCB sunset. Great advertising. So the people, the just have fun. Tuesday, 8.30, UCB sunset. Great advertisement. So the people, the threat of violence is there, too. You mean a prop gun, I'm hoping. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Oh, you're licking shots in the theater? Listen, you know a black party's not lit unless there was some sort of violence there. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey. And please holler at me if you are the Zune users. And don't just fuck around. And if you dig up old Zune, I don't know if I can believe that. I'm really looking out for these three people that we know listening on the Zune. No, we want pictures with the Daily Zeitgeist on the Zune because you can see.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Zunes actually have full-color screens. Full-color screens, yes. A gigantic screen to have that. And you can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien. You guys, rate and review the podcast. You've been great about it in the past. If you haven't done it yet, it really helps people find out about the show. Tell a friend.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Tweet about us. Tweet at us. I also want some AKAs. Miles asked for some AKAs, and he's got an embarrassment of riches. So give me some Jack O'Brien AKAs. Miles asked for some AKAs and he's got an embarrassment of riches. Give me some Jack O'Brien AKAs. You can follow us at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram, at Daily Zeitgeist
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Starting point is 01:05:01 because we actually don't just make all this shit up and because it's tuesday miles do you have a song you would like to recommend that we go out on yes sure uh let's do something a little more worldly because we're talking about earth uh this is fadul who is like the moroccan james brown like this dude is funky he's from morocco uh and it's on this new album i just heard about called habibi funk which is all about like eclectic music from the Arab world so guys with this song I think it's called Baisalama Habibi بسلامة يا حبيبة
Starting point is 01:05:50 خليتني محبولة بسلامة يا حبيبة خليتني مشغولة بسلامة يا حبيبة خليتني مبولة هايلي هايلي هايلي هايلي على فرق ومحاين الحفل كتير اللي كتخلي بخير بسلامة حبيبة
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