The Daily Zeitgeist - Pumpkin Patches Are…Fake? Electoral Scapegoating Already? 10.17.24

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

In episode 1760, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, actor, comedian and co-host of Our Relationship Pod, Ify Nwadiwe, to discuss... Kamala’s Plan For Black Men…, The Government Is Cracking Down On Cancellation Policies, Russell Brand Hawks Magical Amulets On TikTok, It’s The Great Pumpkin Patch Scam and more! Behind Biden’s 2020 Victory Will white women abandon Republicans and vote for Kamala Harris? The Government Is Cracking Down On Cancellation Policies The Biden Admin's FTC Has Delivered a Blow to Planet Fitness and Other Low Cost Gyms PLANET FITNESS MEMBERSHIP FAQS Russell Brand Hawks Magical Amulets On TikTok Inside the strange and scammy world of anti-5G accessories Aires Tech: How It Works UFC And Aires Tech Announce Multi-Year Global Marketing Partnership It’s The Great Pumpkin Patch Scam People are only just learning truth about pumpkin patches - and say their 'life is a lie' Sorry but Pumpkin patches are not only basic, they’re the biggest scam going People are only just realising what ‘pumpkin picking’ actually is Psst! You Pick It, but They Grow It Someplace Else Farms welcoming tourists now make up a $1 billion industry of corn mazes and pumpkin patches LISTEN: Un Deux Trois by MUNYASee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There's all these like themed camps and stuff and there's like you can do like missions. So oh so it's kind of like where the Star Wars hotel failed where if like people weren't LARPy this one is like no come on get into character now this is the fucking apocalypse like don't wait yeah like I mean I live in Los Angeles you know you guys might see me on Twitch. Yeah, like I mean, I live in Los Angeles, you know, you guys might see me on twitch Yeah, no, like the most part is like the gear, you know Like I feel like you can still be like you can walk around and be like, yo I'm miles But they they're like if they see you in clean clothes They're like your clothes are too clean and they got a whole like you got a white t-shirt on it. Yeah

Yeah, they're like no and there's like this whole They got a white t-shirt on it. Yeah. They're like, no. And there's like this whole spot that's like all these like cults that exist in this like, you know, world. And there's one that they their God is Dace, Dation, the God of dirtiness. And you can go in there. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You see my shirt. My shirt has all over it. Yeah. See, there it is. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show Dudes on Dudes.

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Yes, yes. It's a national, yo, shout out to straight edge people because it's national edge day. Okay. If you're not now, you never were as a straight edge friend of mine. I've heard say before a national mulligan day, black poetry day, national pasta day. And one from the credit card companies called national gets smart about credit day. Cool. Uh, Mulligan day feels like it could be a thing like that.

That could be like a movie where it's like the day where you get to, Oh, like the comedic purge. Yeah, it could be. Yeah, exactly. movie where it's like the day where you get to like the comedic purge. Yeah, it could be. Yeah, exactly. It could be the purge. We get to like do shit and just nothing counts. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, so straight edges people who are like, they just don't drink. They don't do drugs. They don't know smoke sex. None of that. They don't do cocaine even did not even cocaine

I mean there are people who are like Yeah, I mean there may be a little bit more rigid with the sex the straight-edge people I know seem to be cooler about that. You know they got a fuck and they have yeah I always thought they like their punk though, right a lot of them like isn't there like a punk aspect to it or they? Like there is it there's an overlap for sure. Yeah. And like the hardcore scene. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Those people always terrified me. Anyways, I don't know because they just have like intense energy. They were like real it felt like it was right on the verge of being like a religious thing, you know, which is like listen to more minor threat, listen to more minor threat and you know, you threat and you'll feel you'll feel you'll feel embraced. I'll understand it. Yeah. Yeah.

Because I think the term comes from a minor threat. One track at a time. One track a day over and over for a year. So you get those ex tats on your hands. Yeah. Nothing against straight. I mean, much better than what I was doing. I was, you know, you were using drugs way too much in high school and college.

And I wish I was straight edge. I wish that was like a weird, like I overdid it as a straight edge person. And then like now was- In moderation. Yeah, in moderation. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka Video Teased, but when will it start? Video Teased, but when will it start? It's coming.

That one courtesy of Zach Van Noss on the Discord. We have, of course, shared some clips from our video episodes. We have not released any of the video episodes. We're just trying- Guys, we're just so self-conscious about how we look. Yeah. Every time I'm like, Jack, be real with me. I look like shit, right? Yeah. I just always notice something like hanging out of my nose or something weird that I'm doing with my hands.

Can you imagine the videos come out, we got like wild face filters on and shit. We're like, yo, what's wrong with that? Look like those four-year-old children with beautified. Or like when Henry Cavill had the mustache CGI'd off. It sums up with his cheeks. I don't know what it is. His upper lip just looks like a big smooth banana.

Yeah. Miles has the facial hair of Pi-May from Kill Bill. I'm like, it could be more whimsical and wise. Anyways, it's common. We're just trying to figure out the workflow. It's a little trickier than we thought at first. So we have a bunch of, we're going to like drop 10 episodes on you when we drop it. Yeah.

Backlog. It's coming soon. Honestly, no, it'll be, I swear to God before the end of the month. Yes. Swear. Swear. I swear to God. STG, STG before the end of the month.

At worst. End of next year. At worst. Depending on who wins the LSU. I'm Yes. Swear. Swear. I swear to God. STG, STG before the end of the month. At worst. End of next month. At worst. Depending on who wins the election. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my cohost, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes.

He's left the comforts of the San Fernando Valley to be now dripping in mumbo sauce on the streets of the nation's capital, the Washington DC. I said the Washington DC. Washington DC. Hey, I'm out, the Washington, D.C. I said the Washington, D.C. Washington, D.C. Hey, I'm out here. Ohio State University. Exactly. I'm just like, again, I wish I had something else to add to that.

I'm really enjoying the fall with temperatures here on the East Coast. You are. Anyway, for those that don't know. I was on a, I joined a call with Miles this morning, like a non-TDZ call, and he joined the call in like his fall outerwear, taking a walk under a gray sky. And I was like, oh, Miles is in his element. Right.

Yeah. And he, guys, I got to tell you, he looked fucking great. Yo, the best, you know, it's so funny. I have a friend of mine who's a New Yorker and she paid me the best compliment when we were in New York like during Like it was like a November a couple months ago and I had like my like my coat on and shit and scarf and she's like Miles I gotta say like you kind of you kind of look like a New Yorker like your energy. I love you and I was like Oh, thank you so much

I've been waiting for that and I didn't even do it in a north face bubble jacket I really wanted to but thank you so much. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the greats, one of our favorite guests, and it's been way too damn long to a hilarious actor, improviser, standup comedian who you've seen on Key and Peel, workaholics, comedy, bang bang, writes for TV shows like Grand Cru and twisted metal. Please welcome noted thought Thought Dad, TM. You can't use that. That's his.

And you also know him from Um, Actually. It's Ify Waddeway! The way you asked was that when Ify came back on the pod. What's good? How you doing? What's up, man? Oh man, we did it. We did it.

Couldn't be done. You're back. Everybody doubted us. They said, no way this guy gets back on the podcast. And yet, he's back. In your fucking faces, losers. Look, you know, I remember the last couple of times we were trying to have you on.

You were in a writer's room. And you're also like, you have your very busy schedule. And it's funny, like this is what I love about our fans when people are like, oh man, if he's not on the show, or if he's not on the show, is there beef or something? Yeah. People do many things. They don't have time to do our podcast,

our second rate podcast. Then we got to catch them and here you are, back in the flesh. We actually just sprung this on you. You were walking out of one writer's room into another and we just put a microphone in your face. We appreciate you stopping for the next hour and sitting down with us. Oh, look, I'm happy.

I always love doing the pod. I love to hop on. So yeah, it was truly like, yeah, my pleasure. And now I'm here with the fellas. With the fellas. Yeah. Exactly. Our new show WTS with the fellas with the failure. Yeah. Our new show WTF with the fellas.

And the logo does look identical to the other WTF. I grew a beard and had my face in a very similar cartoon. It's obviously me though. If you look closely, look closely, look at all the sweat. And you know, Marin can take all those cease and desists and shove them up his ass. Yeah. Yeah, you like that. How you like that, Marin? All right, if you were going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, first we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about.

We're going to be talking about Kamala's plan for black men. That's been a big story is that like her support is waning among black men. What will she do? You know, not, nobody's talking about the fact that Trump won white women overall last time, which is fucking crazy. By 53%. But yeah. So anyways, that's been a story. We're gonna dig into it.

We're also gonna talk about something positive that the government is trying to do. The FTC just finalized a click to cancel initiative. They're cracking down on places that make it incredibly difficult to cancel services. Great, great. Love that. The final boss there would be, who are you thinking would be the final boss for you?

I'm thinking spectrum. Oh, who the hardest motherfucker to cancel anything from spectrum will not let it happen. They won't. Cable companies. Yeah. The cable company, the cables, it's from the beginning. Cable companies, I think are still the final boss. God damn.

Yeah, because they never let you do it. Like you call in and then they make you talk to a customer. The cables, it's from the beginning, cable companies, I think, are still the final boss. God damn. Yeah, because they never let you do it. You call in and then they make you talk to a different person. Yeah, let me talk to my boss. This is bad. And then that person is then giving you all these options instead of what you want to do and they're always trying to up, so the last, I just, I wasn't even trying to cancel. I just needed to, I moved so I needed to switch my service.

And like, I realized months later that they added like a whole bunch of new stuff. And I was like, what? I didn't even ask for that. And they're like, Oh, yo, oh, okay. And then they just like, you know, changed it, but it is like so wild how there's just almost this incentive to be like, ah, we got to do something else. We got to, we got to switch it up.

Sweeten the deal. Yeah, exactly. We're obviously going to talk about, I mean, I don't know how we didn't put this first Russell brand apparently has access to magical amulet. Yes. And he's, he's selling it. You can, you can get actual, like an actually magical thing for $240. Like, like defying all the laws of science and physics. Um, so we're going to talk about that. I don't, I don't know why we're talking about any of this other shit. He's just basically proven the existence of God.

We might, we might also talk about the, about the fact that pumpkin patches are scams. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Ify, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, OK. So for mine, I have the Block iPhone offloading apps

and Jack Antonoff. The first one, Block iPhone. So I don't you know you're trying to save space on your iPhone and so you Go in and you know you You have it offload apps you're not using but there's some apps that you just download to use Like like I have the gif fiat so that I can use GIFs in my text. So we have that turned on since I never opened that app, because I only use it as a sticker in text. It just keeps getting offloaded. And I'll have to notice when I'm trying to use it and I can't find it.

And it truly is, like, bonkers. So I went to look to see if there's a way to like block specific apps from being offloaded. And they're like, no, no, we don't have that. And you would think that there's so many things that I think the that Apple does that I'm like, you would think that eventually you would have knocked this out really quick. Right. Uh, like, like, but like I still, you know, anyone who was like, I can't type fuck in a text message or that I've been like, don't put it as a contact.

I get that. But if you use like any AirPods and you happen to live with someone else who has AirPods and they have that new feature, that's like this AirPods tracking you and you're like, nope, this is someone, this is, this is someone I live with. I know it's not. And like, there's no way to turn that off. There's no way to be like, Hey, this is someone I live with, I know it's not. And there's no way to turn that off. There's no way to be like, hey, learn. Oh, the air tags? You are being hunted like 300 times a week. I'm like, yo, I'm okay.

Yeah, and with the new update, they're basically saying, you know, oh, you'll be able to acknowledge that you know it. And then, like, it still doesn't work. And I was like, you would think it'd be the simplest one. And you know, that whole feature was reactionary because they got called out where people were like, yo, people can use your AirTag feature to stalk people. So now they just, it feels like they're punishing us

where it's like, well, then you can't turn it off. You wanted this, you wanted this. Yeah, right, right. There you go, in your off. You wanted this. You wanted that. Yeah. There you go. In your face. Now our product sucks. So, uh, yeah, yeah. The air tags, right?

The, the, the things are super annoying. What's something you think is underrated? There's a game that came out called war hundred, uh, war hundred, uh, war hammer 40 K rogue trader. Everyone's been on the space Marine to train. I have to, it's amazing. It's a banger game and Rogue trader came out right around the same time that boulders gate came out Which is amazing and everyone loves it and it's a great game, but I feel like

With what's happening with you know a space marine to everyone's like Excited about the warhammer lore and they're looking into it and every day there's like a tweet thread about people being like, what? This is cool. I want to get into it. And I feel like Rogue Trader was supposed to be Baldur's Gate for Warhammer. Like what Baldur's Gate was for D&D where a bunch of people got into D&D. That's what Rogue Trader could have been. But I think that Warhammer does not know how to push stuff. They like being the cool nerdy thing that they don't put too much effort in. Because like, if you look, they're not even really like following anyone on Twitter.

Like they're only like following like they're like a couple of writers and stuff. Like they're not even following like, you know, Henry Cavill or any like pretty big, you know, celebrities who are like tied to the brand. Yeah. And it's like we follow Foucault and they're following nine people. It's all of their video games and a and the secret level Amazon thing that they're featured in and the game and the people who produce their games and everything that's kind of connected.

And it's like, yeah, that's cool and all, but you're not community building at all and you're doing your thing. And like I said, it is like Kleenex in London. They don't need any advertising. Jack off into it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. That too. Everyone jacks off into it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

That too. Everyone jacks off into it. Yeah, yeah, you're jacking off to it. But it is like, I feel like they are missing growth that they could have, but I do think that they don't feel the need. I think they got burned by Blizzard, and they don't want to be, they don't want to put that work in. Right.

Man, that's, I was, when I saw that, I saw an ad for that in the PlayStation store. And I was like, that doesn't look like the people from aliens, space marines. And then I was like, that's different. And I realized it was Warhammer and I, cause there's like, cause aren't they called space marines or I guess colonial marines? Yeah. Colonial. Yeah.

And alien. Yeah. Yeah. What, what's something you think's overrated, Effie? Oh man, I think I put composure. I feel like everyone's trying to be like, I think there's this, everyone wants to be chill. Everyone wants to play. We need to be gassing people up.

We've been inside for a long time. I think that we should be comfortable being excited about things, celebrating and champion people. I think don't be weird about it for sure, but like be excited, be like, be a cheerleader for the things that you like because that's the only way you can like spread, you know, information about it. Right. Yeah.

I feel like there's that. Noah. Yeah. I feel like no lies. Channin channel Noah Lyles, the way he came into the 100. Don't don't race with COVID though. It was so funny to see black Twitter just praying for his downfall. That was great. You know, and it's like, yeah, dude, you, you came in swinging for absolutely no reason. Like, what was that for? Right, right, right.

Yeah. Because also, like, I think, I think just, just on paper, he was wrong. You know, like, that would be like, you know, when people, you know, if, if like the premier league was like world champions was like, well, you got to go to the world cup. And it's like, everyone in the world cup is in the premier Cup. And it's like everyone in the World Cup is in the Premier League. And I think it's the same thing for the NBA. Everyone you saw in that Olympic tournament, every best player in every country's team is in the NBA.

So what are we talking about? So we're talking about him coming in and being like, I'm a world champion because I sprinted against the best in the world. Yeah. He was like, I don't see why the NBA finals called themselves the world champions, like bro, people only care about you every four years. We didn't know you existed until you ran your mouth. Like it really was annoying because it's like, it is such a, like, it really felt

like it came from the place about like, I should be celebrated more. It's like, nah, you just run fast. You know, people. Cause he, he achieved the thing that I it's just like, it was funny watching the NBA, I mean, the basketball Olympics and watching these teams and you're like every star player, you know, you're like, I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star.

I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star.

I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. I'm going to be a star. It's just like, it was funny watching the NBA, I mean the basketball Olympics and watching these teams and you're like every star player that they're up against in every country is in the NBA. So it was like, so this like watching it kind of defeated his purpose because it's like, no, cause all these guys and they do better because they get to team up with other very good people

Versus you know playing with the the people who could make it out the hood, you know, like Respectfully, these are all great basketball players. They all can ball me up. That's not what I'm saying What I'm saying is that the level you have to be at to be in the NBA is Is very hard to achieve and to like compare it. It's like, yeah, dude, like there's like, there is no, like, no one is flying from other countries to run out here. So that's why we have the Olympics. No one is flying from other countries. Like the world championships for track and field is the Olympics.

And I think that, you know, as much as the Olympics want to say it's the World Championship for basketball, I firmly believe that if not, it's the NBA. Yeah, but the highest level of competition is that I think he was just fully just freaking out. The like in the run up to that race was, I want to see that more. Like we had, we're, we've existed in this paradigm for a long time where it's like, you come up with composure, you like enter the, and then you like let loose. Like LeBron has his, you know, hand clap with the dusts. Jordan, like was always very calm and composed before the game. I just like somebody coming in and just absolutely losing their mind before the race even starts. Just like letting that energy out.

Yeah, yeah. Totally. It was, was a lot of fun. So that's, that's why I think he's a lack of composure king in some respects. Both on Twitter and in the lead up to a race. Yeah. And I, and that I respect, you know, and I, and I do respect the energy. I think it's kind of like miles said everything up until when you're trying

to like, you know, cast off the NBA. It's like, I don't know about all that. Yeah. Yeah. Those should be like, Hey man, we're doing cool shit It's like, I don't know about all that shit. Yeah. Those be like, Hey man, we're doing cool shit. Pay attention to this. This is dope. Yes, it is. And you know, luckily it's like most sports, you need a Netflix

documentary to make it people be like, you know what? Dragon field is actually kind of dope when I see like the totality of it. Just like how, you know, formula one was, you know, obviously had a huge boom. After that, I only have 30% of my time for sports. It is a zero sum competition between basketball and track and field. And I will now be shifting my 15% of my focus to track and field. Starting five. That's not how anybody works. All right. Let's take a quick break and we're going to come right back and we're going to talk about some news stories.

We'll be right back. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again, and we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're gonna highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes.

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I see so, but you can do that kind of spooky scary. Well, yeah, but it's also because it's a ride. Yeah, I know. Sure, sure. But you're in it, you know? Yeah, exactly. You're in the spook. I think we have to let them in on our little surprise.

Yeah, if you haven't already figured it out, can't believe this. Mariah Carey will be joining us this week. I say, oh, I want to go work with such and such from across town. Yeah, from across town. My girl across town. Yeah, across town. I know a guy across town. I know a guy.

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Should we start a label? Maybe. Wow. Listen to Lost Culture Eastus on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.

And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy

and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.

Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Piece, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tareka Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about

the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and T and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's

Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image and huge life transformations.

I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. life transformations. life. I was the kid that if you asked what what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. And we're back. We're back. And yeah, so this has been a story. I mean, the, the Dems and Disarray story, which is always there. It's always there in the background of the mainstream media. They're always ready for a democratic slide, a democratic catastrophe, a democratic fuck up.

And there's plenty of that to go around, but that's not, they don't focus on the policy towards Israel, but they do like to look at polls and take some wild extrapolation. Love hand ringing. They love the hand ringing. Cause there's a lot over declining support for Harris among black men. Or you see headlines like, what makes Trump appealing to black male voters? Or Harris is struggling with black men. And I get that there has been a trend in the wrong direction for black men over the last couple election cycles.

But these headlines seem like this was a full blown crisis. And then I'm looking at polling and Kamala is doing as well as Biden did in 2020. So I'm like, what are we doing exactly? And I get that, you know, this is all about, it's all about turnout and margins. So even a 5% decline could mean, you know, the difference between a Trump or Harris presidency, but across the board, it's clear that Harris just has been underperforming with just men as a demographic across the board, no matter like in every cohort. So in the fourth quarter of this election, she's released a plan for black men after doing a listening tour in cities like Atlanta, Charlotte, and Detroit.

And based on those conversations, she sort of laid out this whole policy plan. And the sort of the tent poles are the first one is like providing like 1 million loans that are fully forgivable to black entrepreneurs and like getting like $20,000 to like help start businesses. Another one is supporting a regulatory framework for cryptocurrency and other digital assets. Now I do understand that as a demographic like this predates on black men in terms of as being investors the most. So I understand that if you're looking at crypto as a whole, like this predates on black men in terms of as being investors the most. So I understand that if you're looking at crypto as a whole, you're like, well, you know, black investors are typically more vulnerable than others. A

national health equity initiative that addresses things like sickle cell disease, diabetes, mental health, prostate cancer and other things that are disproportionately impact black men legalizing recreational marijuana, creating like just like better pathways to get like black men into teaching jobs and other sort of like just high paying jobs and things like that. Now these like I think they're important 100% and most of these policies are actually just her sort of like existing platform, but they're just sort of recontextualized.

So black men can understand how they also benefit from like these certain policies. But then I'm also like a little confused here because I'm sure on these listening tours, she heard a lot about policing and the violence, the violence that black men disproportionately experience at the hands of police and her policies are kind of offering the same sort of milk toast policy prescriptions that just don't get to the root of the matter. There's language about building trust between law enforcement and the community

and banning chokeholds. But the lack of trust and deadly tactics come from our unaddressed issue with anti-black racism and white supremacy. So I was thinking, hey, maybe qualified immunity, would we dare to utter those words and other laws and loopholes that are sort of in place that allow police to act with impunity and like with the legalizing marijuana, I was hoping maybe you could see something about, you know, uh, actually expunging records and freeing people who have been locked up for

possession charges, because that's another thing that disproportionately affects people of color, especially black people. So the thing that like also just kind of strikes me here is that there's this whole, this emphasis on like the problem with like her black male support. And this sort of sudden emphasis to me, it feels like it's partially beginning to scape, like it's half pandering, but also beginning to scapegoat black men as a potentially like, or like if Kamala loses, it's because these black men turned up for Donald Trump. And like, again, like I said, these, I think these, I, I, I, I'm glad that she's

articulating this kind of like these policy prescriptions that are affecting black men, but I think they could go further. Another question I have is why don't you just do that from the beginning of your campaign rather than this late in the game when there are all these headlines questioning your ability to get support? Because I mean, let's say black people are the most consistent supporters of Democrats, like across the board. So like, let's not get into this like, whoa, whoa, what's going on here?

And that's what I'm saying. Like, where is the smoke? Where is the analysis for white voters? Because that's also a huge, huge, like, this is, this is a huge demographic of people that are openly embracing fascism as well. But to then suddenly have headline after headline talking about like black men and what is she going to do? Just feels a little odd and just kind of just I was feeling some type of way about it.

Like I just didn't if that's what I felt like it was sort of setting up to sort of be able to like if if this election goes to Trump, then it's going to be like, well, it's the people who didn't turn out because of Gaza and then black men because they love Trump and crypto and these other things. Hope you're happy guys. Yeah. And avoiding real progress, which I think again, like we always have talked about on the show, that is what is the most energizing when you're trying to win a race. Right. Yeah, I agree.

I feel like, you know, this just really feels like we're already getting the head start on the blame game that tries to come out of the election. And the blame is always on the voters and not the politicians and how they chose to connect on them and the ways that they've waffled and the ways that they've, you know, never addressing things that you might've misstepped. Like, you know, you kind of energized a group of voters by kind of seemingly being like more left than Biden. And then you come out and be like, well, hold up, we will make sure we have some Republicans,

you know, in here. And then you're, then you're like, ignoring the backlash that comes from that. Because it's like, yeah, do you like, like this is you, the people, the reason people were excited for you was it felt like we were going to like, you know, see some real change and you're not going to see change if you're trying to parlay the people who are trying to push project 2025, which is a complete mess and terrible. Yeah. So it's to me.

Yeah. It feels like all the strategizing seems very reactionary and it seems very like it's, it just seems like the classic thing we always see, right? Where a lot of over-promising and we're waiting to see it be delivered on. Yeah. I feel like it also paints this picture of Trump as having like more diverse support than we think, Hey guys, I know there's a lot of like, we're a very divided country.

They love to talk about how divided we are, but Hey, there's nothing special here about Trump. It's just Republicans and Democrats. If you think he's uniquely bad, then like you're overreacting. He's going to like his policy, like just, just the massive, like mass deportation thing that he's openly proposing, like every day on the campaign trail, they're going to have concentration camps for people who are here legally because they are black and brown, essentially.

Like that, that is what is going to happen. Like that's maybe the story I would focus on as opposed to this version of Trump. But Hey man, there's, there's a lot more support out there for him than you'd think. It's like, what about like, what is going to happen if he wins? Right. And there's also, you know, the time came and went really to really capitalize on the momentum we had in society to really try and push presidency, when he had the trifecta. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And, and poof, it went, and I get that it's easy to point fingers at the holdouts, like mansion and cinema and things like that. And, and that is true. But that, that was really the time to really begin to be like, let me, let me show him proof. I know I, I count on the support of black people, but I know that there's a lot of people out there that really begin to be like, let me,

let me show him proof. I know I, I count on the support of black voters. Now let me repay that. The other thing too, is like, when you really look at the polling, look at like swings, like swing States, like Wisconsin, the, for white women, the race is very, very tight. It is like, it's like a dead heat pretty much. And to then be like, what is, what's going to happen

with black men and things like that. Now I understand that may be more sexy than calling out like other white voters and things like that. But again, we have issues with like their misogyny because there are some men who would just never vote ever for a woman. It doesn't matter how much you talk about squeezing off your Glock and shit like that.

And there's also this sort of white supremacist angle too, that we're just not, there's no, there's no grappling with it. There's no analysis of that either. So it's much easier to just look at numbers and be like, well, black men are supporting a little bit less than normal. There's the problem when we have these other much larger voting clocks that we need to sort of have some kind of, I don't know, more meaningful analysis around rather than create this headline.

And for me, again, it does feel like we're, we're doing diet scapegoating preemptive scapegoating, which just makes me very uncomfortable because I just don't know that that ain't it. That ain't it. All right. This next one, I feel like another thing that they could have run on and made a bigger deal about. So the FTC just finalized their click to cancel initiative, which basically prevents companies from trapping consumers in unwanted subscriptions by

forcing them to jump through unnecessary hoops. So it requires that companies, including streamers, make it as easy to cancel subscriptions as it is to sign up for them. That sounds like a fantasy. And like, just say that, just be like, Hey, this is what we're doing for you. We just did this. Like, because we recognize that these companies are fucking annoying to deal with and they're making your life more difficult.

Right. Right. Right. I, I, this is, this goes along with, I remember we were talking when the terms and conditions story came up and they're like, we got to figure out a way to streamline terms and conditions. Like you can't be like, Hey man, if you're, if your partner dies, having food at Disney world, I'm sorry that you signed up for Disney plus. Cause that actually, that's indemnifies us.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, like this, like that kind of thing, along with this, this is the kind of stuff that like, you don't need any policy experience to understand. You're like, yeah, man. Why is it so fucking hard to cancel any kind of membership? A lot of people like, I guess like planet fitness started to trend on social media because of this.

I famously do not go to gyms because I'm not great about my health. I drew it at home. But do you have any experience with Planet Fitness or just know that gym memberships are up there with some of the worst ones to try and get out of? Yeah. I mean, definitely I had a gym membership through my healthcare and that has been like, I have not been able to get out of it. Like you want to get rid of your healthcare too?

Right now just reminded me like I got to, cause they're always trying to get you to like call them and be like, yeah, if you call us and, and then you call them and then they're just, because they know that like most people are not trying to be confrontational. Most people are not, you know, trying to, they're just trying to wear you down. That's right. And where you're at. Yeah. And then you just either give up or they're like, okay, we'll just give you three

months and then if you still don't after that, you can do it. But then they're hoping after three months you forgot and then you're just, it's just terrible. It definitely is like fuck boy relationship tactics where it's like, no, no, you don't want to break up. Hold on, talk to him. Hold on. Can I put you on the phone with my cousin? You know, my cousin, you love my cousin. And she has always had your back. Hold on. She wants to talk to you. She's like, look, he's trying to change. You know that, right? He really loves you.

He cares about you. You know what I mean? And even to prove it, he will give you an Apple TV 4k for your back. Hold on. She wants to talk to you. She's like, look, he's trying to change. You know that, right? He really loves you. He cares about you. You know what I mean? Even to prove it, he will give you an Apple TV 4k for your home. Okay. And we can bring down the monthly cost about $10. Cause that to your point, like that's what spectrum feels like you get passed around, you get promised all kinds of shit. They like, I feel like at one point they were like this person on the verge of tears to be like, is there anything we can do to keep you? I'm like, I'm moving out of your service area. That's it. There's literally nothing you can do. I no longer reside in an area that you serve. Therefore I must cancel. But you can also, you could mobilely experience our cable. I was like, no, no, no, I'm sorry. This,

look, man, they're going to kill me. They're going to kill me if you cancel this. I knew it. You're fucking against me. Just like everybody in my fucking life over here. Yeah. You're like, what? Yeah. I mean, it's also the tactics the police use to coerce a false confession out of people is they just like, don't let you leave. They just keep coming back to you.

They just won't take no for an answer until you're just so exhausted. Different detectives come in. Hey, tell me the story again. Sorry. I just got here. I can just break it down for me from the top. Hey, sorry. She's changed, man.

So, oh yeah, my partner's doing, Hey, you fucking asshole. Yeah. Someone's fucking dead because of you now cop to it. And you're like, I'm sorry, man. Was I, I'm sorry. I haven't signed the. Yeah, someone's fucking dead because of you now cop to it. You're like, I'm sorry, man. Was I said, I'm sorry. I haven't signed. Yeah. Yeah. You could be so easy. Are you what's the thing with with like car accidents?

Are you ever told if you like the first car accident you get your parents like, don't say I'm sorry. Don't you know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Is that will is that true? Like like by apologizing, they would be like, oh, yeah, that will is that true like like by apologizing they'll be like all the message sorry, bro Even though I rear-ended you the fact that you the person I rear-ended said, I'm sorry means now you are like, you know Yeah Is that is that I'm guessing is that just like an urban legend about not saying I'm sorry

Yeah, I don't know actually I don't yeah don't because I've I've yeah heard stories even outside of You know car accidents where it's like whatever you do. Don't say it's okay, or it's fine. Just just say Yeah, you got to get them on video right away. Yeah, okay, so one injury lawyer says it could Negatively impact your insurance claim. Yeah. Wow. And it can be seen. It's all over. The second that happens, you're involved in like a legal event. You just need to, you need to be careful.

Like run everything through a lawyer. Get your lawyer on FaceTime. That's just so wild because like, even if it was like you're like, Oh my God, are you okay? I'm like, I'm so disappointed that you drive a Hyundai. Yeah. You can't be, you can't be human. It's a terrible system.

I, I immediately come out and like, Oh, I'm so sorry. Even if they caused it. I'm like Brett in pulp fiction. What do I look like? Do I look like a bitch? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, check out the big brain on Brett. What? Say what again? Say what again? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, the big brain on bread. What? Say what again? Say what again? Motherfucker. Even though I got rear ended. God damn time. Okay.

I'm sorry. You can, you can take my wallet. Just don't even just have to take a picture. Now when you get an accident, you come out and you're like, what does Marsalis Wallace look like? And people are like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? Dude, he just fucking rear-ended me. Yeah, he's going hard.

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Ares tech. I don't know. Uh, it protects you from the evil signals in the world and it can be yours for mere the low, low price of $239.99. Hey, one more time. $239.99. Isn't there a deal where it's like, but that boat or you can get two for three 40 years, like they're doing it.

Like they're selling t-shirts outside of concert. They'll a man one for 22 for 30. You know, the video opens with him emerging from the bushes. Have you seen it? If he, I saw this, like these little kind of like, you know, with the commercial, did you see the Russell brand like commercial where he's actually, I only saw the emerging from the bushes is a bad look for somebody who's been accused of being a sex crime to be like, Hey, just with a suitcase bushes with

so you have picture this. Russell Brand is emerging from as Jack says, literal shrubs with a tiny carry on back. And one of those clip on microphones you see on all the Tik Tok videos. Hello, I'm just back from Narnia where I had a holiday, Mr. Thomas Aslan, all those guys. And as you know, airports are places for wifi and all sorts of evil

energies, all the phones out there. Okay. Is that music part of the ad? I think so. Yeah. Is that just some shit you listen to on your end to get pumped up for our podcast recording? No, no, no, that this is from the airs tech tick tock.

I'm also just trying to connect the dots. He came back from Narnia, but you go through TSA. Yeah, bro. To go through Narnia? I'm just I'm having followed. I'm having trouble following just the basic through line here Okay, but he's back from Narnia and he's talking about you know, how TSA is when you go to Narnia Okay, all of the signals corruptible and corrupting luckily I wear this magical amulet from airs tech that keeps me safe from all of the various signals out there and also means look at this I think this is making people more bad. No, it's empty. He's lifting the suitcase with one arm very quickly I mean, it's clearly a just this fucking scam from the beginning

But it is so funny. I just got back from Narnia and you know how TSA is when you go through the wardrobe Like yeah, so I I like you had my doubts guys, but then I saw the graphic that they prepared. So on the left, you have a radio tower that says radiation source, radio towers, giving, giving a lot of, you know, I walked by a radio tower the other day and I like the right half of my body was tan. That's how much radiation you're catching off that. Coming off that, a bunch of wiggly sperm with arrowheads and it says, non-coherent radiation.

Then it goes into just one of those floral design things that you make with one of those circle things, circle pen things, And it says transformer. Oh yeah. What was that called? A Spirograph. Spirograph. Yeah.

It just has a Spirograph and it says transformer, which yeah. And then the transformer takes the non coherent radiation and turns it into coherent radiation, which are straight arrows. And those are going into a guy and being bounced back off of him because coherent radiation, it's just so wildest pseudo scientific bullshit. Even saying pseudo scientific means you have to mention the word science. It's like being like, yo, where are this cheerio around your neck and ghosts won't bother you.

Okay. Yeah, probably. You know what I mean? Like, how do you prove that? But sure. It has a lot of look, this shit got a lot of sacred geometry contained within. So you will someone on at bag log, backlog reviewer on Twitter just did like, they said I did a Zepto second of Googling just to look at the claims on this website. And it's just, it's like, they're like, okay, look, we're, they're getting, there's like a source that you can like for their whole sort of, uh, fake, you know, quasi science shit, pseudo scientific shit. And it's like a link to a Russian encyclopedia. That's just like a, like a definition of the term coherence, but they have

stuff in there to make it work. And this shit is backed up. Don't they click on this Cyrillic hyperlink and you will, and unless you can read Cyrillic, you won't know what the fuck is going on. And then like other sort of groups, but then you look at the people and like, they're all kinds of these, like just straight up grifters who are like, you can change your, you can change cancer just with your mindset. So they're this, they must be a good company here, selling this stuff.

Shockingly, it has been debunked by experts. Yeah. Huge shock. The holographic response is how they say it works. They're just truly just taking words from science fiction. The loosest term of use of the term science fiction, because transformer is one of the words. Right. They're taking those terms and just throwing them out.

Holograph, transformer. Yeah. Emphasis on the word fiction. A lot of emphasis on the word fiction. But this grifter shit is just so, like, I get it. Ever since he just had to be like, Oh yeah, I'm doing like the Jordan Peterson thing now, all you can do is just do this kind of nonsense where you're just like preying on, you know, the, the weirded out and uninformed to

be like, that's right. If the five G could do this to me. So I do need this $400 or whatever the fuck this is or 239 plus shipping. I'll be fair. Airstech is an official partner of the UFC though. So you can actually, we're back in. You can back in. Just regard everything we just said. I think we're good here. You should have started with that. Well then we don't have a story if you. then there's everything we say after that is moot.

Yeah. As long as Dana White's fucking with it, we're good. I know. We need to like make a list of all the people who are like donating to Trump and like, you know, cool with Trump just so we can. And do one to Jack. Just so we can look back in five years when they want us all to forget or, you know, see them coming when they're part of his like official ministry that is killing people. Yeah.

Yeah. He'll be the new health and human services director, Dana White. Yeah. And finally, uh, staying in the realm of scams. And this is, this is a much older one, but, uh, every year it feels like somebody realizes something about pumpkin patches, uh, every year it feels like somebody realizes something about pumpkin patches, uh, which is, you go, have you guys been to the pumpkin patch you take into now that I have a little baby, not yet.

And I think after this, yeah. So don't a lot of times you go to the pumpkin patch and it is a bunch of pumpkins that have just been dropped in a muddy field. And like for some reason, like my brain was just like, yep, that's pumpkin patch. That's where the pumpkins are. They're in the field, but people were like, no, I actually saw them and they're taking the pumpkins out of like a Kroger truck and dropping them in the field to make it seem rustic. And then, you know, because they're like pretty muddy because they've been sitting in the, in the field, you feel like you're getting something actually rustic and naturally grown. Which I love this.

That's wild. It works for city people, you know what I mean? It's like, go to the pumpkin patch. You want to feel like you're doing something rustic. You don't necessarily want to do something rustic. So I guess mission accomplished in that case. But you put it out of your mind too, because any person who knows how things grow you're like

This is just not even connected to the ground. Yeah, like I just lift this fucker up like that How do you grow but until I remember I I'm I think The first time I actually saw pumpkins being grown was like two years ago I was wandering I was in Seattle and I was like walking to this neighborhood and this dude was growing the biggest fucking Pumpkin in his front yard and this shit was it looked like an alien fucking life form with all the shit vines and huge roots and shit I was like oh this is not like this whole lighting yeah yeah exactly glowing and I'm like this is different I go to on it yeah this isn't like the spot under the power lines I go to. Yeah. Pretend I'm picking.

Yeah. I mean, this, this guy Burt at Burt news tweeted, I did not realize the whole pumpkin picking phenomenon was coming to a field where people have placed pumpkins to pick them up. We are quite, quite mad. Yeah. They just dropped them so you can then pick them up and be like, I did a pumpkin thing. So farmers in a lot of these cases claim that the arrangement is made quite mad. Yeah. They just drop them so you can then pick them up and be like, I did a pumpkin

thing. So farmers in a lot of these cases claim that the arrangement is mainly due to health and safety reasons because pumpkins grow on thick. And this is my favorite word that I've learned today. Thick peduncle stems, which can be hard to cut. So they have to pre-describe them. It sounds like you're describing my legs. Look at those thick peduncle stems. Big old peduncles.

Yeah, you gotta get them peduncles checked out. Yeah. Or it's an uncle that your family tells you to stay away from. So it apparently means the... That peduncle somewhere. No, no, no, no, no. That's right. Away.

That's a good one. That's a good one. Call the police. It apparently means the main stem, but yeah. Ah. That's a good one. Called a police. It apparently means the main stem, but yeah, it does in, in pronunciation. It sounds like a description of a big, dumb fat, but, and in spelling, it does just look like ped uncle. Yeah.

So either way you're winning. So a lot of these pumpkin patches don't actually grow their pumpkins. They procure them from third party vendors and place them in patches. And a representative from the New York state department of agriculture was like, ah, so you're onto us. When the New York times like looked into this and they were like, yeah, I don't know. And then this other like official was like, so yes, sometimes they will buy

additional pumpkins when their crop yield is low and the New York Times looked into it and was like, that's not actually true. They're mostly just buying them from a grocery store distributor and sprinkling them through the field, which like that lie of like, they just do it when their supply is low. Reminds me of like the mall Santas are actually dudes who work with Santa. It's like you found out the lie, but then you just like make up a like slightly smaller lie to tape on top of it.

I guess, right. I wonder if too, it's like a location thing. Obviously like you can't, you can't be chopping up pit uncle stems in any state. Like I'm sure there's probably certain parts of the country that are better for harvesting and growing pumpkins. Yeah. But it just in the same way, like I've seen those whimsical hallmark movies where they're like Christmas tree places

where you literally cut, they saw down the fucking tree that you take home. Like the one that's actually growing. So why not just like, just keep it real. Like, you know, like saw down the fucking tree that you take home. Yeah. The one that's actually growing. So why not just like, just keep it real. And if I get that they pre-cut them, cause these stems are just like super gnarly to deal with, but wouldn't that be the fun is like, you're like this one. And then someone comes over with like the gnarly hacksaw or whatever. And then you're like, Oh shit, we fucking chop this fucker and took it home.

But I guess it doesn't chop that fucker. Chop that. Yeah. I'm just a weather, Hey shit, we fucking chop this fucker and took it home. But I guess it doesn't chop that fucker. Chopped it. Yeah. Hey man, chop that fucker too. They're like, are you buying it? I'm like, nah, nah, but I want to see that shit. But I get to, you know, but these things are now like more than just pumpkin patches, cause there's like, there's a lot of these things like in LA that are

in places like in a fucking Rite Aid parking lot. Yeah. It's basically the exact same place that you would find where you buy Christmas trees. They have pumpkin patches and yeah, yeah. They shift like, yeah, I thought they had pumpkins grown under the cement during the summer and then they sprang forth this first through the asphalt and give us all the light. There's a spot I went to with the guys child.

They charged three. First of all, this was in a parking lot. Okay. The credit to them. They're not acting like these should just grow on the ground. Like they're all stacked up really cool and shit. There's like really hot, like eight foot piles of pumpkins on hay bales and shit. It was $3 a person to get in, including my baby.

OK, also charge an entrance fee to just to take a gander at the fucking pumpkins you would then buy. Also, there were no there were no labels. There are no price labels on any of this shit. It was kind of like, yeah, man, just see what they tell you at the front. They're going to wait. And I'm like, yeah, there. Can I see like what your pricing sort of like rub yeah, man, just see what they tell you at the front. They're going to wait. And I'm like, yeah, there. Can I see, like, what's your pricing sort of like rubric is here? It feels kind of odd.

Then they have like a janky Ferris wheel that's like, you know, maybe like a little carts. Yeah, basically should only go like eight feet high and a petting zoo where they're like, oh, yeah, you want to feed the goat? Yeah, yeah, we got we got some food right here. It's eight dollars for this apple. Yeah, to feed a goat. And I'm like, no, and you better to feed the goat? Yeah, yeah, we got, we got some food right here. It's $8 for this apple. Yeah. Yeah.

Feed a goat. And I'm like, no, and you better stay the fuck away from that goat by the way. Yeah. You can feed the goat, but you better stay the fuck away from them. Fuck away. I use these twists and warts. Yeah. So I'm fucking twisted.

Yeah. Yeah. So agritourism, this is, this is a, I think one, yeah, it's a billion dollar industry in the US, like including all the pumpkin patches. What is it called? Agritourism? Agritourism, like agriculture tourism.

There's also like, you got your corn mazes, you got your wagon rides. And one farmer pointed out he was willing to turn his cornfield into a maze because it meant sacrificing $1,000 worth of corn for $100,000 worth of ag retainment So damn it makes sense people just want to feel like they're in they're on a farm doing farm shit I'm curious Rural zeitgang or people who know about shit like this, when you see it, is it like a total turnoff? Because you're like, this is, this ain't no fucking pumpkin patch. You know, just go buy it at the grocery store, like everyone does and just like, you know, get on with your carving.

But I don't know. Yeah, I guess like the idea really is just like you want to walk around and kind of chat and it's like romantic in that way. But I also yeah, I think that it's there is like I wonder if there is like a like a situation where it's like, oh man, you know, this is like this is like, I wanted the experience of what a pumpkin patch looks like. Yeah. Right. It's like Disneyland for Hallmark movies. Basically.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's the Hallmark movie of Disneyland's. Yeah. I think it's a way to put that. Well, if you want to weigh such a pleasure having you back on the

Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, find out what you're up to, man? Yeah, you can follow me at ifywadiwe on Twitter and Instagram. And you can also check out our relationship pod with Emmy and Ify, where me and him, we read the our relationship advice subreddit and see how wild that is and try our best to actually answer the questions and then of course watch I'm actually on dropout and other than that yeah follow that my follow me and you'll know where I'm performing. Yeah yeah is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

Oh man I've really been digging the new Da Dandan show that's on Netflix, it's the anime. So I'm gonna be checking that out and everyone says, and I'm gonna just echo it, make sure you're checking out High School Teacher. High School Teacher, I don't know that one. I guess not everybody says that. Yeah, yeah, I guess you know, you're out of the loop. Oh, High School Teacher loop, you know, but yeah, everybody was pretty much talking about that. Everybody's into that one. Yeah. That's the one. That's the like English teacher.

Yeah. English teacher on effects. There English teacher. Okay. So you did know I just said the wrong name. Yeah. Yeah. But I was getting old when you started me like, Hey, what's that show? High school teacher. Yeah. English teacher. Oh, my bad.

My bad. You know, I just, dad, English teacher. Oh, my bad. My bad. You know, I just, you know, I was real hyped about it. Miles. Yes. Where can people find you? Is there work of media you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter, Instagram and the like at miles of gray. If you want some basketball takes you check out miles and jack up mad

boosties or talk about the NBA. If you want to hear me talk about 90 day fiance, you find me at four 20 day fiance doing that every week. A couple of things I like. First one is I love this like Abe Simpson meme that people are using to just like, you know, just talk about old people shit on Twitter. You know, there's like, just like, it's a picture of Abe Simpson, the grandpa from the Simpson sitting on a tree stump with all the kids gathered around.

And people are just putting all kinds of like washed shit in the caption. And this one it's Abe Simpson talking to kids and it says, and a relationship with flavor. Flav was the prize. I love flavor love references. And then another one is from, oh, I'm sorry, that was posted by, I didn't even say who that was posted by. That was from at Rebelle Cunt, R-E-B-E-L-L-E-C-U-N-T. And then the last one is from at mad underscore dad 2020. It said, we went through my kid's iPad. My wife is upset, but Latina twerk compilation

has me crying tears. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Tweet, I've been enjoying Robespierre at its flan again. Tweeted, ever since I was little, I knew that I wanted to be late for work. That's good. Something to aspire to. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

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kind of track. You know, sounds like something that, you know, Daft Punk or Justice ends up sampling and flipping. But more than that, it's just like a nice little easy tune and just good background because, you know, look, we're getting into the thick of things. So you might as well play music that creates a positive environment and I think this song will. So this is Un, Du, Trois by Umdou Trois. Alright, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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