The Daily Zeitgeist - PumpTrend Zeit LattGeist 9/21: NFTs, Jimmy Carter, Government Shut-Down, Dali 3

Episode Date: September 21, 2023

In this edition of Pumpkin Zeit LattGeist, Jack and super producer Bryan discuss the death of NFTs, Jimmy Carter still being alive, Republicans always getting the blame for shutting down the government every time they shut down the government, the release of Dali 3, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Pump Trend Zeit Lachgeist. We hadn't done that before, Shawnee Pawnee. Shawnee Pawnee, you've outdone yourself, Shawnee Pawnee on the Discord. He actually had Pumpkin Zeit Lachgeist, and I thought i thought well why not turn pumpkin into pump trend and that's how we ended up at i think one of the best short show titles we've ever had uh my name is jack o'brien and that over there well that is super producer brian jeffrey how's it going everybody coming all the way from mexico new number one importer exporter with the united states um yeah you know taking over for china um also like new everybody wants

to go there now because you have more progressive uh abortion laws than the united states what's the vibes in mexico everybody just celebrating everyone's super happy um because all they think about is america and their their relationship to the u.s is that well uh well jack i'm gonna tell you it's pretty slow here in mexico and no one gives a fuck about what's going on from what i can tell like it just doesn't come up and that's why i'm here shocking to me um all right should we tell the people some of the things that are trending absolutely should we tell them yeah i could care less about the things that are trending i just want to kiss you get out of here joe Joe. Get out of here. Get out of here.

Ever since then, the damn jets have been cursed. Both those jets and jets flying through the sky. Yeah, and you know, we don't want to blame it on 9-11. I don't want to blame it all on 9-11, Brian. I've said this before. It certainly didn't help. Yeah. Let's talk about NFTs. We haven't checked in with NFTs for a while.

We were famously skeptical on the whole FT train. And we just haven't wanted to check in with them for a while because they've been rocketing to the moon? Is that why we... Oh we oh no i'm sorry um so so what has happened is they have you know that they had a a big fall but then people were like just wait there's a future for nfts there's a future for blockchain i believe there's a future for the blockchain uh for sure in the future when the software of our government is not Ponzi scheme. The software for our entire civilization is not just how I scam the best.

And so since people realized that a lot of this shit was a scam, something called Deep Gamble did a deep dive into what some of the most expensive NFTs, some of the NFTs that are still supposedly holding on to value, are actually valued at, are actually trading at. And from their report, they said MAC contract on Ethereum has a floor price of $13,234,204. And its all-time sales are $18. So partially this is like the whole... I don't know what the floor price or anything. It seems though like what they're saying is that they're saying, they claim that they're selling for one thing. But there is what we call in the world of finance,

what we call a discrepancy. Yeah. A discrep between listed prices and actual sales data, which might suggest what this expert group that did a deep dive is suggesting that NFT collections that they analyzed are worth zero dollars like straight up officially worthless it's over for all you hoes yeah oh is gonna be real upset anyway i'm gonna cut that it's a it's an nft, that I sort of know. Oh, okay. I get to observe. Yeah.

We'll just beep his name out. And because I think... He started... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We looked into that together. Yeah. And yeah, yeah. He's going to be a real cranky.

He's going to be a real cranky, Joe. No, but I do think I want to keep it and just beep his name because... Yeah. And the name of his product because I think it stands in for how a lot of people feel right now. You know, like, we have all come into contact with people

who treated us like fucking idiots for being like, I don't know, man. It just, like, doesn't really make sense to me. The amount of people that tried to onboard me into all of that shit that was there was a lot of different scams going on but it had had all had the same goal and they just they really drew in a lot of people who you know believed in it and you know yeah that's required yeah in order to extract as much money as possible but yeah i mean that's this sucks for um anybody who uh is upside down on these nfts and there's

still believers out there man like i i still see it's funny like i'll sometimes like somebody it's very cultish the way they cultivated it cultivated yeah the way they did this they infused just enough of cult vibes a whole damn cultivation I just caught somebody on

one of the socials okay it was twitter it's the only one I got like I was like this person has some strange opinions. Let me dig in and see if they're a bot. And the thing that they had most recently tweeted in the timeline was like, GM crypto people or the good morning, good night thing that the

crypto believers do where they have to like they think it's good luck or like you have to show your belief by saying good morning or good night to the rest of the crypto community there's a lot of weird little rituals and phrases and so many initialisms and acronyms like i that was the thing that kept me that's what kept me from investing anything into all this crypto in general was all the fucking initialisms and acronyms I had to learn

I have no patience for that is there a difference between initialism and acronym I've never heard initialism before this moment initialism is just like some random fucking letters strung together and you just say the letters okay got it got it and an acronym is like scuba or laser or something like that yeah actually stands for something like me you know stand on my own two um all right so

anyways you know not much changing in the world of nft, but it does seem like it is officially like bottomed out. Um, this report from deep gamble, like if you're surprised to like, or if you're wondering like what NFT experts are doing, telling on the whole industry, they do like, they are like,

there's still a future. Like it's, it's gonna be useful down the line. Um, so, you know, people, there's still belief out there but

the shit is worth zero dollars the only way the only feasible thing i see a practical use for uh nfts is fucking ticket master selling it stop giving you like whatever paper take it's just an nft or some shit like i don't know like it's printed on cracker like when you explain what an nft is it's like oh okay like so it sounds like it's this it sounds like a ticket to me that that's all it is it's this identifier and i don't know what else could be incredibly useful to bring like so much of the world is haunted by the ability of people to hide money, spend money,

but not admit they're spending money. Billionaires to harbor money offshore to invest in horrifying shit that is basically trying to upend civilization. If we could get all the money on blockchain,

that would be cool because then we would be able to see where all the money is. That's something from the Ministry for the Future. I think that is the end stage. This would be really a cool way to make it so people can't cheat constantly at capitalism like that might be a thing that makes some version of capitalism work in the future uh but right now we're just too far gone for this to be anything other than a money laundering operation yeah and what a money

laundering operation yeah totally untraceable. They really did it to themselves and all of us. Yeah, I should admit, not only am I an NFT skeptic, I'm also upside down on these things, you guys. Mostly a liquid because I'm all in NFTs, just wishing the whole community good morning and good night. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and hit a bunch of quick stories. We'll be right back.

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Because I'm like, that's so despicably vague. Yeah. I just don't like the sound of that. Anyway. No. I do love Kraft Sing craft singles i love american cheese whatever even though it's not cheese i do i do appreciate it um i do just want to note the the new york times has done uh what i can only describe as a reverse death notice where they

were like hey jimmy carter is still fucking alive and he's making us look like assholes he's made us look like a fool well he's i don't know who he's making look like an asshole other than death itself yeah this is this is one of those stories that i feel like opens with a southern man saying you know death's a funny thing um like that's that's that's what i heard in my mind when i read this story um they put us all on notice that he was going into hospice eight months ago um and he's still out here he's closing in on 99 like luxuriating in hospice like it's a vacation resort um what what did they put him in hospice for exactly i'm not sure man i don't know all the details hey look man it's not i'm not i'm not a news reporter out here i got a lot of tables

uh it's not like i have a daily news podcast come on i got a lot of details to keep track of um i think i think maybe some manner of cancer maybe just like being acutely old as fuck i'm not sure well look he built a lot of fucking houses so yeah he's probably got that wild old man strength keeping him alive yeah got that wild uh hammer thumb that's what put him in there but then he's like he's built up so much strength i but it does like this sort of article you know does make me think that the author of this piece is

trying to kill him because it's just like this is like when somebody goes to the line and the commentator the NBA commentator is like he hasn't missed a free throw in you know 20 games and you know 20 games and you know it's like you're

jinxing that I don't believe in superstition I do believe Peter Baker had author of this piece has just doomed Jimmy Carter to die within the next week maybe we'll see but yeah there's some good they keep blaming it or like

attributing it to how much he loves peanut butter ice cream which peanut butter ice cream is good as fuck but i doubt that's what keeping him alive but they have this quote from his grandson who's like we thought at the beginning of this process that it was going to be in five or so days i was down there with him in the hospital and then said goodbye and then we thought it was going to be in that week that it was coming to the end and it's just now been seven months which on the one hand like the tone of this is like people are like looking at their watches like like like you're like you're waiting for the bus and it's late you're like yeah like you said goodbye to somebody and then you kept walking the same direction as them and you're like oh shit um all right

yeah like this is awkward this is just a weird article to write it is it doesn't need to be written i got like another thing i say is like he's gotten so much so many admiring things written about him and you know letters and and that's so many admiring things written about him and, you know, letters and, and that's, we'll have been eulogizing him and he gets to read it. Yeah. Like that's,

it'd be great if we all knew we were going to die like seven months in advance. And then people just got to, and you get to find out that people thought you were pretty chill. Yeah. Unless you're not, unless people are like good. Arguably the chillest president yeah um still

somehow a war criminal i i assume but yes yes for sure the chillest president the chillest of war criminal um let's see other things the republicans are going to shut down the government again uh Republicans are going to shut down the government again. I wish I had. I forgot my slide whistle. I guess this happens every few months now when there's a split. Branches of the government. I don't know.

There is one really good quote from this. I guess it's between the super conservative fascist wing of the Republicans and the ones who are like even more fascist than them are arguing with one another. And one of them had this quote. We always get the blame. Name one time that we've shut the government down and we haven't got the blame. But it's your fault. You just said we've shut the government down and we haven't got the blame. But it's your fault. You just said we've shut the government down, bro.

He admitted it. He admitted it. It's a great quote. The name one time is almost like that. You almost never hear that outside of the realms of written comedy.

Okay, name one time time you know like that's such a weird weird like self-owned setup picture you're talking to your wife all right yeah name one time i cheated on you and i haven't got the blame yeah exactly what huh all right that's what you're all going with um so anyways yeah but that that's coming i don't you know it will we'll wait until we have a political expert back on the show uh to to tell us like when when has this ever worked the shutting down the government because like they're they're like threatening to shut down the government but already complaining that they're threatening to shut down the government, but already complaining that they're going to get blamed for it. And it's like, yeah, man, you're threatening to do the thing. You can't both threaten to do the thing and then complain that people are going to be mad at you when you do the thing.

You're holding the government hostage. And that's objectively annoying to people. Right. Like, stop. Yeah. objectively uh annoying to people right like stop yeah let's see dolly three is out and the image examples that i've seen it's not like out and i'm generating images with it it's been released to a handful of people and the images that they've released as part of the you know announcement are very like realistic looking there's also a pull quote from the story that gets at like the thing that makes it hard to get like appropriately freaked out about ai where they're like this one shows a

particular knack for images containing letters numbers numbers, and human hands, which I get. Like, having seen the previous Dali's work, I guess I get that that's an improvement. But it's just funny. Like, those are, it just reminds me of, like, when I, like, gave up on drawing, you know, in third grade because, like, hands were too hard to draw. I was like, I don't know. All my hands just look like a child drawing of a flower you know that's when that's when i knew right around like second where you would see other where other kids were at with drawing yeah and you look down at your paper

you're like oh the hands man but i don't i don't know it this does seem to be the thing that dolly up to this point has had a problem with you were saying before we started recording there is something about like the dolly image generation that and the problems like the weakness weak points that is so reminiscent of dreams yeah it's like it's all those things that there are some of those things that you hear about like oh you can't like read in dreams or uh hands look weird it's something stuff like that it's it's very dreamlike yeah yeah letters and numbers and also like yeah it some some of the images because like when i picture dolly like just close your eyes right now and when i say like dolly image what do you you picturing? It's almost, I feel like in 20 something years,

it's going to be like, you remember Vaporwave? I feel like there's going to be like a Dolly wave thing of the way, there's a specific sort of way that these images look. There's a certain like sheen yeah to them where it's immediately obvious to me now when something's been made by dolly especially these types of images that they're showing like the types of images they want people to prompt not like you know like stuff you're trying to trick people with. Yeah, yeah. Like, these just have a very particular rendered kind of look to them.

Yeah. The thing that I'm picturing when I picture a Dali painting, and maybe this is just because, like, I, like, you know, we are not, I don't know, I cut that. The thing I'm picturing is, like, that face of the,

like botched restoration of the Jesus fresco, like, you know, where it's like, it took a realistic painting of Jesus's face, uh, white Jesus's made up face and like turned it into a weird, like third graders drawing like that.

That's what Dolly looks like in my mind. There are good works where it's like, oh, damn, this is really cool. But then always around the edges are just these weird things where it's like, yeah, that's cool, except George Bush has a pillow for

a head or something. It looks like someone drew a stick figure in that one like it it's just yeah yeah i definitely prefer the more abstract images that you can generate because it that's what has like yeah it's it's creepy uh yeah and i can't tell you why it's creepy but it's like yeah and i'm it's oh it's also made me like look at people's hands and pictures more which is annoying to me yeah and i don't know why where i just like i have to check now where i'm like make sure you're not dreaming or looking is this a real photo am i i have to spin my little top like fucking inception to know if i'm awake that's good

any lucid dreamers out there if you um if you're able to let us know do like does your brain have trouble with hands in like when you're dreaming like can can you look down at people's hands and be like oh my god i feel like i feel like i've heard that is a thing but i'm that might be a false memory yeah but like a lot of the dolly like misfires look like when you wake up from a dream when you have a fever of like 103 you know i had some wild dreams but you know what when i did have actually literally have a fever dream it involved numbers explicitly yeah your brain's like connecting different parts that it's like not supposed to. And it was a super

stressful dream because I was having trouble with math at the time. Yeah, it's like Dolly 3 is like death fever level dream logic. Well, I think that's been plenty, Brian. Thank you for

stepping in for Miles while he's away for the day. My pleasure. It was wonderful having you. I would ask where people can find you, but you prefer to remain unfound. I am elusive and reclusive. And that rhymes, Jack. Admit it. Wow.

I am going to have to run that by a couple people, but I will get back to you on whether that rhymes. That's going to do it for us on this Thursday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't listen to Florida. Get the fucking vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye.

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