The Daily Zeitgeist - Pursuit of SLAPPY-ness? Trump Rally Slump? 3.29.22

Episode Date: March 29, 2022

In episode 1214, Miles and guest co-host Jacquis Neal are joined by writer, actor, and comedian Solomon Georgio to discuss… Trump tries to rally Georgia, GOP Govs KINDA doing the right thing…, Will Smith and more! MTG's Trump Rally Nonsense Herschel Walker's Failed Attempt at Public Speaking GOP Govs KINDA doing the right thing… Indiana’s GOP governor vetoes bill banning transgender girls from female sports in schools, citing ‘unanswered questions’ LISTEN: Mr. Man by AirSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And you know what? This is one of those rare days that something happens that it awakens everyone's consciousness, subconsciousness. We're seeing all kinds of things, and we'll get to that. I think you know what we're talking about. But anyway, it's Tuesday, March 29th, 2022. That means it's National Lemon Chiffon Day. For all you Lemon Chiffon fans out there, congratulations to you. This is your day.

My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Booty, booty, booty, booty, cupcakes in the air. Booty, booty, booty, booty, cupcakes in the air. Booty, booty, booty, booty, cupcakes in the air. Booty, booty, booty, booty, cupcakes in the air. I see you rip cupcake booties from the bottom, place on top all goofy. Put it to your mouth. Take a bite or two. Look down. See it crumble all over you. Eat it right. Eat it right. Eat it right. Okay, shout out to Rumham McDuck where we were talking about the Twitter or the internet cupcake eating hack

that we saw Anne Hathaway do where she ripped the bottom of the cupcake and put it on top and we're like, this is violencia. But shout out to Rumham McDuck for that Miss New Booty Bubba Sparks with the three X's. You really honored his name

when you submitted that aka but enough about me it's really about who's joining me as guest co-host jack is out for a little bit it's taking a bit of a breather you know what i mean kids on spring break doing his thing and while that's happening i can only say that i'm thrilled and honored and you know just to be joined by my guest host today please give it up for my brother jakeith neil now this is a story all about how will smith slapped the shit out of chris rock that's it no aka's niggas that's it we ain't got nothing to say with that i'm jack he's everybody what the fuck is up what up niggas chris Rock got the shit slapped out of him by Will Smith.

But he could have killed him, Jack Keys. He could have killed him. I know he could have killed him. I know he could have killed him. Could have killed him. But he didn't. With an open hand. He restrained.

He restrained. Will told y'all when he made Wild Wild West, man. He was like, you better watch your lip. You better watch your lip. All right? Niggas up here. Niggas thought he was getting jiggy with it. And they was like, oh, he ain't from West Philly no more.

All right? Right. All right. We can talk about it later. But what's up, everybody? How you doing? Hey. Lovely to be here.

What's good, Zekese? Were you watching live? What's up? I was watching live, bro. OK. And we'll talk about this later. I was so fucking high. And after that moment, I was not anymore.

Yeah. I remember seeing the first clip of of it and I was like, no. And I was like, I guess I got to keep watching the rest now. Anyway, like we said, we're going to get to that. But first we need to introduce today's guest. You know, we're thrilled today to have a guest that, you know, you might know them from their just hilarious stand-up comedy by the way if you are in minneapolis april 13th through 16th i know minneapolis i gang you're out there because we did a fucking live show out there so you best show up at the acne comedy company for this man april 13th to 16th you know brilliant actor writer maybe written on shows you heard of like shrill or high fidelity fucking adam ruins everything where is this person not okay they're everywhere we are thrilled to be joined by the amazingly hilarious

and brilliant solomon georgio i'm happy to be here and my i'm also here for the pursuit of the happiness that I know seven pounds to the face there's a reason why his mom sent him to Bel Air but he didn't learn exactly one little fight yeah obviously we're gonna have to talk about I mean not

we will we're compelled to by the culture to speak at length about what happened between Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars. But first, let's give everybody just a little sneak peek into what else we're talking about. Trump had a rally in Georgia, which was a bit of a sad, wet fart filled with just all kinds of ignorance that you would come to expect at a MAGA rally. So we'll give you some lowlights from that. We'll talk about some GOP governors who are kind of doing the right thing when it comes to these anti-trans bills that are proliferating across the country. And we'll tell you why it's kind of because it's not that their hearts are totally in the right place.

It's just, you know, broken clock Just write twice a day and all that. And obviously, the slap discourse will have to carry on on this show when we will just kind of, I guess, look back at what was a very eventful Oscars. And, you know, an Oscars that kind of overshadowed a lot of things, good things that happen for people. But the slap is obviously the biggest thing uh on people's minds like i said it's it's not often that you get like commentary from like right-wing politicians doctors judd apatow whoopi goldberg the mb like everybody had something to say and so much of it was not correct but we'll get to all of that but solomon how you doing man what's uh what's going on with you yeah i've been very good uh just um very good. Just working mostly. I'm writing on a new show that'll be out in the near future. And I have a podcast coming out as well. So I'll be joining your guys' area.

Joining the podcast world. Yeah. You know, I figure, you know, 2020, that's the right time to dip into the podcasting world. There's not enough of them. I think there's just... Right. Well, there's not enough good ones so i would say based on your uh talents alone there's not enough black ones that is very true i'll like i'm happy to do it but yeah and uh just quick question were you watching live uh last uh sunday night i was not watching live i was uh i watched the be Beyonce performance, which is all I wanted to watch. And then being a homosexual man with a telephone, I received 9 million texts about the situation from black people,

from gays, like every, everything came at me. Yeah, no, same, same. I got,

it was like, it was more than like a fucking, like, remember when people in Hawaii got that, like intercontinental ballistic missile will hit the Island, take and it was like like that was the level of alerts i was getting on my phone it's not been like that like not even during the election like of 2020 but i get it but so before we you know fully get into all the stories we got to tell or we got to let people know a little bit more about you solomon. So first, we'd like to ask our guests, what's something from your search history that's

revealing about who you are? The most recent thing that I've searched is Roald Dahl books. That's the person I've been. I've actually, because I didn't, I got rid of all my books and that's all I've been doing is trying to rebuy stuff. And I'm also like, but also I'm doing it in the the vain way where i'm like what books would look good to people when they walk by right do i have to read it no but i want to make sure people think i'm smart enough to read it on the plane i do that with music fire shit i like i make

sure the phone is like right on the edge of the table so when people walk past it's like my man got some good ass taste in music yeah just holding it up like this just holding it up like stretching and yawning with my phone just like toward everybody so they can see the song that i'm playing real easy you're like you're stretching and yawning but you turn up the brightness on your screen you're like yeah i can see that okay of course of course you got enough so i get that i feel that solomon i feel that 100 you got rid of your book what do you mean you got rid of your like i just never like restocked like i've never had like a like i've like i probably have like 20

books on me now but like i used to have a whole like before i moved to la i had i had i had like books i had like shelves of them and now i'm like all right i need to get to the place where i have a bookshelf to show to show off how does that how do you feel like in the the kindle era because like i books used to be like in college my way to be like yeah i read that shit you could tell by the way the spine is creased i did that before you came here so it looked like i read this shit like and now like with kindles and stuff i love the convenience of it but i do sort of miss the physical the tangible actually read it when i buy it on kindle that's the thing is like i get out get on like all right it's there like it's just like not like

i need to have the paper to like gotcha flip and get my like it's like there's like a goal to finishing it that way like you don't know like if you're in the middle of a book and you see that little fold you're like i can finish that right you don't get that from a kindle it doesn't tell you're halfway through and just like that's true i'm like do i need you gotta like scroll to the bottom like all right i got another 50 pages like yeah right this one's like you're 40 of the way through i'm like i don't even know how to what 40 is if i'm not looking at the full thickness of the book i need to see it right right right right right it's like yeah but yeah but that's but also yeah i just like holding books i like having them around i like just the physicality of it i like that i know that i'm killing something like a tree maybe right absolutely

i don't know no i just but like i'm definitely like i'm not getting like new books i'm getting like old books so it definitely looks like i read them even though it was right hundreds of other people that did it before me what's uh what's another book so you got you got rolled doll i got the whole collection the whole doll connection i uh collection i also because i just saw the movie i got all the dune books again because i read them when i was younger all i'm doing is buying books i've already read so i'm really yeah i've only just rebuying your collection i haven't read yes yeah absolutely it's the shit that i remember reading going like i like that i want this to be in my possession that's great and then if someone sees it you don't have

they don't have to pull your card if they ask you about it you know about it because you're like no i read oh yeah definitely yes let's go yeah you want to talk about i'm also very good at lying about uh about reading or watching something that i have not read or watched right like movies music i've always been like yeah i saw that as i don't want to be the person who didn't see that and get that like i can't believe you've not seen that i'm like i don't have time for that conversation right yeah they're like you haven't of all the people that i thought would have seen it it would have been you you yeah you're like well sometimes that shit happens all right and i saw it so you don't have to worry because of course i saw that shit my go-to is always oh yeah yeah i saw that but it's been a minute it's been a minute so that way don't

nobody make me talk about it like oh i don't remember it that much. I saw it long when it came out. I saw it. I say I watched it, but I was a little, I was stoned. So yeah. Oh yeah. That's always easy. And also true. There's like shit.

Like people remind me like you did see that. I'm like, really? You were at your niece's birthday party. Was I? Right. I don't remember that at all actually uh solomon what's something you think is overrated oh um something that actually been getting on my nerves lately is that complaining about gen z that's something

that i think is overrated i wish people like especially my like as a millennial i think we all became boomers very quickly when gen z started uh attacking our style i'm like i don't care about that yeah why do you care if a child is telling you to stop wearing skinny jeans right they're like because i wore the skinny jeans because someone else bullied me into wearing them and it was just to avoid the bullying yeah and i was like i feel like it's i feel like it's just like it's becoming like especially since i spent so much time on twitter like it's like literally all my friends getting mad at younger people i'm like what are you doing for what when did we become like this here's the thing i the reason i hate it so much is because and i've been saying this for a minute

every generation i feel like is gonna eventually become exactly what we're becoming right now. Because, like, we're just wired as dumbass human beings to be dumbass human beings sometimes. Right. You know? And, like, who cares? Like, shit gets old and stuff new comes in. And, like, just embrace it. But everybody was saying, man, I can't believe all these younger people or these older people saying this about us.

And I'm like, all right, wait till we get older. Like you can see. But also, what obligation do we have to a young, like a younger generation is meant to critique the generation before they're young. But like, I can wear whatever I want till the day I die. Like it doesn't matter what anybody else says about it, especially if somebody's younger than me.

Yet somebody's younger than me, if that makes sense. Because they're creating a new style. They're trying to make their own mark in their own generation. And that's what they should be doing anyway. I don't have to do what they're wearing. I don't have to wear anything. Not a single thing. They fear the vibe shift.

The only thing that I don't like is they don't have to struggle and stand in line for Jordans like we used to back in the day. It's not fair. Yeah, now they can't even get them. It's not fair. And now we all can't get them. Now we all can't get them. To be fair, their first memory is 9-11.

So maybe. Right. That's the first thing they remember. So I'm you know what y'all y'all good yeah like i remember joy in this world you guys i also miss out on that i i fucking love it because some of the shit talking is so on point i'm like fuck yeah like i couldn't have even burned my own generation from inside the house like you just did and i love that's the shit i love and like i'm more of like a yeah like let these kids just fucking flame us i don't give a fuck i think the problem is too for our generation like us making fun of gen xers a

little bit different because like i think millennials feel some sort of ownership over like the internet and like internet culture and the fact that like what we started now is giving way to younger people also having fun on the internet and using that against us and we're like but hold on this this used to be our shit it's like yeah but guess what time goes on and like you're saying solomon shit evolves yep but i think that's like for them like that's their comedy is they're all very good at comedy too like the amount of the it's a bigger generation of comedians so i'm like how am i gonna like i'm gonna let this flourish i love like if you insult me and it's funny yeah that's you deserve every right to it right especially like with a good observation

not just some like hateful just you know just exactly right a rhetorical shit you're like that was a cutting observation and you were paying attention yeah yeah wow there's this uh there's this tweet y'all everybody knows lacy i'm sure i don't know if you know lacy's mostly yes i've heard of her but she was doing a live show and the tickets were ten dollars and this person tweeted her damn it got to be super humbling to be on billboards and still have $10 shows. And we was like,

oh, God, damn, girl. You can't even get mad at that. That observation is just on point and correct. I didn't even think of it at all. When I read that post, I was like, oh my God, I do believe,

I write for television during the day and then i just go to a fucking bar show for a drink ticket when they said ten dollars i was like damn yeah that would be a step up for some of the shows i do during the right oh my god it's like oh you ain't had to tell the truth like that yeah yeah just drive off the studio lot to a bar yeah i get it i'm stupid right right they're like right they're like you valet your car right outside of a fucking lapu bell like back in the day just to hang out in the back back entrance that smells like a bunch of spilled over beer kegs for a good good chance of bombing, which is even better. Yeah, why not? Exactly.

And maybe you'll see Jon Hamm walk by because Lord knows this man just loves to be around a comedy theater. So it all balances out. Solomon, what is something you think is underrated?

I'm trying to think of what's going on right now. Something I think is underrated and I think a lot of people are getting mad about it is not liking things. I'm a very big fan of not going on right now. Something I think is underrated, and I think a lot of people are getting mad about it, is not liking things. I'm a very big fan of not liking things and saying I don't like it,

especially movies and culture. And I think a lot of people, again, since I spend so much time on social media, a lot of people are like, don't tell people you don't like something. If somebody out there likes it, I'm like, it's just a movie. You just say you don't like it.

It's one of my favorite things in the world to do. Talking shit is important to our survival. and criticizing stuff that we watch and listen to like we you know like that's if you've if you had to experience it and you put the money out to experience it i want to hear that you don't like it i want you to tell me right exactly i mean i think it's one thing to say yeah my name i wasn't really feeling it it was thing. And I think a lot of people take that as to being like, and if you like it, you are fucked up and stupid. And I don't know what went wrong when or where. But that's that. And that's the end of my take. It's rather than be like, no, I don't like this thing. Yeah. Everybody like whatever the fuck you want. Me personally, I didn't like it. That all yeah yeah but also that's i enjoy that

too like it's one thing to say you don't like something that you didn't experience be like it's gonna be stupid don't watch it i'm like well that's just unfair but if you took the time out of your day to sit through a three-hour movie which is all of them now i want you to say you don't like it and why yeah Because that's a three-hour movie that I have to go and experience my damn self too. Right. I think especially when you're consuming something, I think it's fair to give your opinion

on what you consumed, right? I think where people don't know where the line, not where people don't know where the line is, where people get confused, kind of what you were saying, Miles, is miles is you know we also have a culture of what are they supposed to call yucking people's yum type thing right like oh you like this or you're lame type stuff there's also a culture which is very annoying in my opinion like if somebody wants to go to disney like who gives a fuck right it's kind of more of that like who

gives a fuck what you like but also who gives a fuck what you don't like just don't get mad at me for not liking it and don't get mad at me for liking it i think that's where like people forget where the line is is we can have our consumerism and in the day it's consumerism it's capitalism people are allowed like if you're like there's people are shelling money out for an experience and as a customer you're allowed to make a complaint after you experience something yeah you're allowed to love something you're allowed to hate something right then as long as you're not going into like just hate and you're just like just say like you're just sort of using something as like a lightning rod to project some other shit which is clear when you're like man that's like this that wasn't even an assessment or an analysis of what they saw like this person just decided to say like i don't like anything to do

with people having face paint on it's all stupid and you're like what the fuck is this about has nothing but if it's like hey there were so many potholes i thought i would fall through them then yeah i want to know that shit, too. Right. You're like, ah, the score, snooze fest. Me, I'm a big snooze snob. Who was the last movie you hated, Solomon? Who was the last movie you hated? Yeah.

I'm actually a terrible person about this, because I actually like everything I watch. I don't like stuff. I just want to be able to say I don't like it. Yeah. I want to live in a world where I can say I don't like stuff. I just want to be able to say I don't like it. Yeah. I want to live in a world where I can say I don't like stuff. That's just my vision. Well, for me, personally, if I take the time to watch anything,

I do my thorough research of what would this experience be. And very often, because people sometimes, they have that wavery part of them. They're like, I'll watch this because other people told me to. I'm not like that at all. I watch nothing I don't want to watch fully at the beginning. Right. So what we're really saying here is everybody else keep telling us what's crap so we can do our research and don't watch that crap.

Exactly. That's kind of how it works. I just, I need like a few people whose opinions i respect to be like nice it was trash and then i'll be like okay they spoke let me do a couple more love like levels deeper if the consensus still seems to be like that then i'm like all right i won't waste my time but i'm willing to be pleasantly surprised if i come across it like down the road which has happened certainly where i was like damn a bunch of people told me that shit was not good and then i actually ended up liking it like there are moments like that but also yes it does help to also just trust the

opinions because i myself do not like to like i will only watch things that i feel like i have a high chance of me enjoying it yeah because they're nine hours long now so you gotta i know when you're committing to a film now you're not you're giving away a quarter of your day right and that's that's and that's math i don't take that lightly yeah yeah that's your time your time is worth everything right exactly all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back uh to talk about some some news. Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers,

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So Trump, Donald Trump, he's got a huge gamble going in Georgia right now as it relates to the governor's race. He's currently backing former senator and spooky Confederate ghost David Perdue in the primary against the incumbent Brian Kemp. And we know this because Trump's whole thing is about taking out revenge on people who don't kiss the ring. And for him, he's because Kemp wouldn't rat fuck the 2020 election. He's like, OK, then I'm going to primary you and my and because I'm King MAGA, whatever I say, the voters will follow. And, you know, this is actually a good situation for Stacey Abrams, who's also running in the state because any Republican infighting will probably just serve to depress turnout on some level, whether or not like if the MAGA people stay at home because Kemp, they still have feelings towards Kemp or vice versa. So that's all kind

of humming in the background. But since Perdue is trailing about, he's trailing by about 10 points right now in the polls, it makes sense Trump had to dust off his MAGA hat and hit a rally in Georgia to try and prop up, you know, this candidate, because as we saw earlier in the week, he rescinded his or last week he rescinded his endorsement of Mo Brooks for being woke, which is the one of the best jokes I've heard in this decade. So he thought, you know what, maybe I'll go to Georgia, get the people together, scream my usual bigoted bullshit, and maybe that'll energize the voters. bigoted bullshit and maybe that'll energize the voters well uh first i just want to say based on the turnout it seems that the people might not really be feeling the vibrations at the moment i think you can if you're in the dock you can see this picture the first picture was taken over the weekend they say it was around 5 000 and you juxtapose that with like a year earlier when they had like 20 000 people show up this is like and

he wasn't this was just i think maybe fresh off of the stop the steel energy but it's clear that that energy is not really sustaining itself to begin with yeah i think he is look man we all do comedy so we all are very used to going back to the well, you know, that's kind of what we do. And so I get I get I get going back to the well. But, bro, like I'm 35 years old and I get tired. This nigga not tired yet. Like what is this? Come on, dude.

You still hold it. People are getting you can tell the excitement behind it. people are getting you can tell the the the excitement behind it i've never seen somebody hold on so long to especially politically right like al gore even stopped talking about inconvenient truth after a couple years this nigga he's like man fuck it y'all gonna die in the climate like he's still doing these rallies and i'm like bro what is you talking about and it's crazy and you're right like i i, too, because it's all self it's all self indulgent. And and what I don't know if they get or not yeah you can hold on to this shit but you're gonna start costing yourself and i think that's where they're heading but they're so egotistical he sees those 5 000 10 000 people and it feeds his ego so much that they don't realize like i want trump to run again i know people are like oh i want trump to run again because if you do

all the motherfuckers who all us tired ass liberals and leftists who don't who are tired of Biden going to be like, well, I wasn't going to come out with this nigga not getting back in. We don't come back out of record numbers. It's stupid. It's hard to know what's going to happen, right? Because on one hand, if if Purdue triumphs over Brian Kemp and gets the nomination in the primary, that does say something about the Trump brand again. You know that it's like, oh, no, they're still listening. And this is a big test, right? Because he's saying, I'm putting all my chips behind Purdue. He's 10 points behind. And if he doesn't succeed, then I'm basically taking a direct L to the face by being like, your revenge plot failed.

And that definitely opens up a huge opportunity for whatever this post-Trump GOP is, because they're going to say, oh, shit, they're not into it as much. But I think he's definitely taking the L, though. I feel like he should have gotten for a smaller governor race than this one. Because stepping your foot into this one, the better idea would have been to be like, I guess I should side with Kemp this time. But also, another thing that fails with him is that he's reactionary. He needs something to react to. And he's not getting the news feed that he's getting.

So when he's out there, all he has is the news uh feed that he's getting so like his so when he's when he's out there all he has is the same tired thing he has to do over and over again and they don't bring there's a shit about that especially his base so that's that's one benefit of not having him on the news every single day uh is that he has nothing to react to right and he's like barely watching the news because he's not in it so he he's just like, it hasn't, I don't think shit's progressed much past January 7th, 2020, or 2021. And he's like, it's the same entire talking point. They don't, that's, people lose interest.

He has to have something else and nothing else includes him. So he doesn't pay attention. Yeah. And it seems like, you know, with people like DeSantis and stuff, people are responding just to just straight up out there bigotry. You know what I mean? Like that's kind of what's, you're, with people like DeSantis and stuff, people are responding just to just straight up out there bigotry. You know what I mean? Like that's kind of what's your,

you're starting to see these differences and you know, like especially when it came to the sort of conflict between DeSantis and Trump over like vaccines and things where Trump was like, no, the vaccine is cool. Like it works. You don't have to get it if you don't want it, but I made that shit because he's trying to get the fucking credit for it. Meanwhile, people like DeSantis are like, yo, this guy's really talking about vaccines and shit like some fauci and you're you're starting

to see those little schisms happen but yes i just wanted to touch on some of the speakers at this event because we had majorly tainted uh gangrene our marjorie taylorene was there and everybody had just the most tired. Everybody was a snooze fest. Like they couldn't even do bigotry in a way that was like energizing anymore. Like first David Perdue, he like wasted his whole time just talking about 2020. And he's like, and I'm still fighting to get to the bottom of what happened two years ago. Oh, for what? Hey, sure.

And he's like like and i'm the only person that can beat stacy abrams i was like fam brian can't beat stacy abrams last time they were in the election so that talking point doesn't even hold up so then you get to marjorie taylor green she decided to put q anon homophobia and climate denial in a fucking blender uh and came up with this really interesting soundbite and you know what pete budaj can take his electric vehicles and his bicycles and he and his husband can stay out of our girls bathrooms yep what yeah um what okay you see like i'm not joking put q anon put like we're putting the q anon predator like save the children shit in there a hint of electric cars are gay yeah um that fucking

little gremlin his electric car and his gas is $6. Tell him to don't take them electric cars. Give them to like, they're just so stupid. Bicycles? Bicycles are lovely. They're lovely. They're nice. That's, like, if you're talking about change, like, that's one of the oldest

inventions we have right now. Like, that's not even, it's a bicycle. It's not even, what? It's a bike. That came first. It's a bike. It's one of the first things we learned to do when we're children is ride a bike does she not know how is that maybe that's her that's probably why she's so mad she never learned how to ride this is oh yeah maybe daddy wasn't there the parents weren't there to teach you how to ride a bike and now you're getting all mad because pete buddha judge is saying to fight climate change, maybe we try some carbon neutral

forms of transportation. And then the transphobia is just so tired. But that's the thing, right? They just have to evoke the topics to just say like, hey, remember we're against let me say electric vehicle

because then we're all pro drill baby drill type bullshit and then talk about the kids and then you talk about the bathrooms going into a women's bathroom like it makes no sense like when you actually analyze the text of it but when you're just putting vibes out there that's like me going to a wu-tang show and being like, we got blunts, Timberlands, fucking ODB hologram. Ah! Just topics. Topics that I know people are going to fuck with, but I'm not

really saying anything. And that's kind of what these things have devolved into. It makes me miss old school blatant bigotry. At least it's straightforward. I know what's going on. Yeah. You want to just say the n word but instead you're trying to they build this weird dog whistle argument that's gets more and more

confusing you're just like you could have just been you just took a whole shortcut and said the word you want to say that's in your head right exactly yeah like this thing's all more twisted up than someone's 5c curls. I was like, what? You know about black hair? You invested enough in about black hair to say that? To make one point. Let me tell you, too, about these bathrooms, man.

Let me tell you about these bathrooms. They arguing the wrong shit. It's not keep people out of the bathrooms. It's add more bathrooms. We need more. Now that we all share in bathrooms, as we we rightfully should the lines are long as hell we need to add more bathrooms so we can all share every bathroom and the god the two bathrooms ain't enough no more we need five bathrooms per building the lines and the lines in the day we all have we all know the

bathrooms at the city we can take a shit in so that's that's the life that we should live anymore there should be access to bathrooms everywhere there should be two per block as far as i'm concerned for everyone hell yeah two could you imagine a campaign and like if you're a politician like and you know with my infrastructure plan i'm trying to make every public restroom one you feel comfortable shitting it hell how about that i want it so uh people can put won't be afraid to put their asses on the seats because they know they are being properly cleaned and maintained that is all i'm running on do i know anything about any geopolitics no no but no but the grove shouldn't have the best bathroom in la everywhere should be a grove

bathroom that should be like an invest in self-cleaning toilet like like a self-cleaning bathroom it's like it gets hosed down between every use wait you better watch out talking about the grove bathroom because rick caruso is running for mayor and he's gonna be like think about how pristine the bathrooms are in my shopping facility i will bring that plan to the entire city while also doing regular sweeps of the unhoused and brutalizing them to make way for my parking lots uh you just made you just made the choice more difficult running on every every bathroom is a grove bathroom ticket god damn also just to check back in with the trump thing um herschel walkel Walker, right? We have to talk about Herschel Walker because this man,

former football player has no business running for office. Aside from the Trump's racist as being like, well, if I want to take a black Senator down in our election, I should put in a black man to also run against him because that's how my Mandingo fight, love and brain works. And that's what i'm trying to do

so herschel walker who many are like he wasn't even living in georgia like when he was announcing his candidacy he also spoke at this rally and i'm not i'm not joking it was like i felt bad for him because it looked like someone doing a shitty improv scene where he was having to pretend to be a gop candidate for the senate because nothing was coming out right. And this is poor Herschel Walker. For this country, people want to ask me all the time why I'm running. I'm sick and tired. I'm sick and tired of them wanting to teach CTR in school, critical race theory. Can you tell me what that means? We're Americans. We're not black. We're not white.

We're American. I'm tired of this. This critical race theory. The CRT. In the school. When I come back from the city. CTR, you need to be worried about that CTE, Herschel. Yeah.

That is. That is. I'm sick and tired. What do you sound like? The racist that Dave Chappelle played. Yeah. Oh, right. Right.

Clayton Bixby. Right. You can't even form a sentence. Like you. You can't even form like a sentence. you can't even form like uh a sentence you can't even that's the problem right you have someone up there who's not passionate about what the fuck they're talking about so you can't then be like well then we're gonna rely on their secondary improvisational skills to sound like a black person who's bothered by critical race theory. Yeah. And that's why he just came out with like,

yo, I'm tired of this. Fuck, what the fuck was it? It was really bad. We're not black. We're not white. We're Americans. Meanwhile, all the Asian Americans and all the every other. It's a binary that's yeah that's it not in georgia for this race specifically just need to think about it oh what is black and what is white and it's just ctr is not it well they all need to queue cars but they just said no because none of

them can read and that's the real issue that we have especially like it's like fuck like every time a black person compromises their blackness to get white approval you especially like it's like fuck like every time a black person compromises their blackness to get white approval you're like it's always a shit show it never is yeah never looks good never does it never does a bit wonky and you could have you could have avoided it too it's a very avoidable situation like you know what i'm just gonna keep being black and not do this right yeah they're like nah do i need, do I need to just say some shit that would completely betray all the struggle of everybody that came before me? Nah, maybe I'll just leave that behind. Okay.

Wait, my ego? Well, now hold on. Now hold on. Now hold on. When it comes to my egos, man, fuck them ancestors. It might be the money more than the ego. Yeah, right. And then even then, I'm'm like what are they paying you not much that's the sad part not much speaking of governors i just want to kind of bring some attention to two uh republican governors in indiana and utah because

these just ridiculous transphobic protecting's, the integrity of women's athletics bills are popping up all over, solving an issue that is not real, but again, is just justification for further discrimination against trans people and youth specifically. Indiana Governor Eric Holcomb, he vetoed a bill last week that would have banned trans kids from playing on sports teams according to their own gender identity but he kind of again he 50 50 this one okay like yes he vetoed the fucked up bill and you're like oh good he vetoed the bill and he's like but let me explain the reason is because this bill is so fucked up in its wording that it just opens up all these school districts to lawsuits because it's like texas where they're just sort of deputizing concerned parents to be like, well, if they fuck up, you can bring a lawsuit against the school district. And as governor, he's like, that could potentially just bankrupt the fuck out of all these school districts. And we'll basically have no public education at all. So I don't want to, I don't want to have these school districts wasting resources fighting these lawsuits. Just word the bill differently is kind of like, yeah.

But he did, however, acknowledge that the bill wasn't really addressing a problem in the state because there aren't there weren't any trans kids competing in high school sports like in the state. So he was sort of just like, it doesn't it's also there's this doesn't even like address anything that's happening. And it could be a bankruptcy thing. So, look, y'all just override my veto like I know you're going to do because you control the legislature and then come back. So this really isn't over. And in fact, a lot of people are speculating that it'll come back. They may override the veto in May. Meanwhile, in Utah, I just want to say Governor Spencer Cox also vetoed a similar bill and was also concerned in the same way. He's like, this could open up districts or certain athletic bodies to be completely just inundated with lawsuits and then therefore drain all the money out when these are schools and associations that are providing the infrastructure for kids to play sports. But he actually like articulated a human cost to these kinds of bills. And I, and that's the credit I will give Governor Cox of Utah. And I will, you know, take it with a grain of salt because he does still say like,

I believe that we have to protect women's sports already. That's an L, but he goes on to say, quote, I must admit, I'm not an expert. I struggle to understand so much of it. And the science is conflicting when in doubt. However, I always try to err on the side of kindness, mercy, and compassion. I also try to get proximate and I am learning so much from our transgender community. They are great kids who face enormous struggles. Here are the numbers that have most impacted my decision. This is from his letter explaining the veto of the bill. 75,000, 4, 1, 86, and 56. 75,000, the number of high school kids participating in high school sports in Utah. Four, the number of transgender kids playing high school sports in Utah. One, the one transgender student playing girls sports. 86%. That's the number of trans

youth reporting on suicidality. 56% of trans youth having attempted it. Now he said, quote, four kids and only one of them is playing girls sports. That's what all of this is about. Four kids who aren't dominating or winning trophies or taking scholarships. Four kids who are just trying to find some friends and feel like they are part of something. Four kids trying to get through each day. Rarely has so much fear and anger been directed at so few. Now, you know, he's also looking at a state legislature that can override the veto and probably, you know, he's potentially welcoming a primary from the right because of this. But, you know, I say I couldn't believe that we saw a Republican governor even bother to articulate or not just go down the full dehumanization route when it

comes to these bills, because that's the trend we've been seeing yeah it's really sad when somebody not hating other people is an applause worthy yeah thing it's very it's a very weird thing right and it's a very weird thing because i'll find myself doing that too with and not on this issue but other issues too where you especially from the republican side unfortunately but you know white people too like anybody who is in a place of majority or they're not a part of a marginalized group yeah and when they give the human response you're like huh that's a good no it's not a fucking good thing it's not a good thing it's a it's a human like it's exactly what it should be right and so you know it's a really

sad thing when you when you talk about these and you know all those numbers you gave out we're talking about you know the four kids essentially right so much anger directed at so few. And, you know, it's a very sad thing that because, you know, it's already an isolating situation. And now you and then when you talk about there's four, you know, those four people know who they are. You know what I'm saying? Right. And the fact that they have to now say. and the fact that they have to now say man so it it feels good to know that one person out of this large group of people doesn't hate us it's very sad it's a very sad thing yeah it sucks to be that empathy is a surprise empathy should be the base basic thing you can do especially for children and yeah over school sports too of all things to be like why are you paying attention to school sports you fool-ass grown adult yeah it is it is such an unnecessary need to discuss something that is

truly happening at the tiniest scale and also more importantly it's literally it's an insult especially because there's always folks on girl sports it's an insult to women to assume that they are genetically weaker than men and that anyone who transitions from genders is inherently going to be much better because they're not genetic biological women. Women are strong, powerful athletes that don't get the respect they deserve already. athletes that don't get the respect they deserve already and anyone who joins the flanks regardless of what their biological status in the beginning that's not a that's not a challenge to women in sports and girls in sports they that's a that's still equal footing and it's unfair to think otherwise yeah and it's funny too because it's usually people who one have never played sports or two sucked at everything they ever fucking did growing up. Who don't realize that that's a that's a dumb argument.

I like I play in a co-ed baseball league right now. We all suck. We all suck. All of us. All of us. Everybody got a noodle arm from second girl. Boy, it doesn't matter. Everybody's striking now.

OK, nobody throw over 45 miles an hour like we all suck right right and then i grow up and i remember growing up uh you know i grew up in chicago let me tell you man i tell you who kicked my ass the most candace parker she kicked our ass like she's the best basketball player i've ever played against in my fucking life like on a on a court. Candice Parker. Wait, you actually hooped with Candice Parker? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, pick up basketball.

Yeah, you would have got fucking destroyed. I got destroyed. Yeah. Destroyed. Destroyed, man. And so, like, when people who actually, like, love sports and know sports and things like that know that that's such a whack argument of well men are just genetically better than women right because it's not true it's not fucking true at all oh that's all it is that's all that that's all that is there's no skill or determinant none

of that it's fully dismissive of like literally all of women in sport like that is hands down like some of the like greatest athletes of all time you can tell me sarina williams can't just beat any man she can can. Yeah. Yes, she can. Yeah. When we were playing, when I played against Candice Parker, were there a couple dudes who were stronger than her? Yeah, probably. You know what she did?

She took their ass out to the perimeter and schooled their ass. Right. Exactly. She was like, all right, you're stronger than me. Fine. People in the NBA, Allen Iverson wasn't backing down Shaq. Right. You know?

Like, they just don't, you don't get that. Because they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. It's just based in bigotry. That's all it is. If a woman is a great athlete, she's immediately dismissed as being more

manly. Immediately. It's such a need to insult women as athletes in every possible way that they're like and it's unnecessary trans women are like they're not going to be inherently better at sports than everybody else they will be as good as any other athlete in that skills field and i think it speaks to the fragility of the conservatives in this country at the moment because they're grasping at anything to feel that their worldview is somehow dominant or more pervasive than people who are interested in progress.

So this is how you claw back is to say, well, you know what, in these states where we have this state control, we can now let's push the weakest groups around because then we'll feel better as long as we can decide because some of these other groups that, you know, that ship set sail and we there's nothing we can do about it. The change has come. But if we can claw back some basic rights for others, maybe that will help us feel better. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come right back because Will Smith and Chris Rock, obviously.

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on the iHeartRadio app apple podcasts or wherever you stream podcasts and we're back so sunday sunday sunday were the oscars i wasn't paying attention i kind of had it on and then my i paused it and my Apple TV did that thing where it just shuts off because they're like, you're not fucking watching this shit. Power save mode. And then I got a text from my mother. They out of nowhere being like, what did Chris Rock say? And I said, what? She said, what did Chris Rock say?

I'm like, is this some is this like something like what did the Fox say? I was so confused is this like something like, what did the Fox say type? I was so confused. I said, explain, what are you asking? She's like, Will Smith just hit Chris Rock, but you can't hear anything that happened on the Oscars. And I said, what the fuck? So immediately, all these other text messages pop up. Did you see that shit? What about this?

What about that? Here's this video. And what we saw was, again, I'm sure at this point everybody knows, but Will Smith went on stage after Chris Rock made a joke about Jada Pinkett's hair and, you know, hit him with five across the eye real quick just to tighten him up. would will smith do this many people explain that jada you know in the past has shared that she has alopecia and that that her hair comes that makes her hair fall out easier uh and and and especially women of color tend to be affected by alopecia in much larger numbers than most groups and you know so her hair she's keep that's why she's keeping her hair short chris rock made a fucking dumb ass joke being like i can't wait to see you in gi jane 2 what the fuck year is this while he was giving the best documentary award uh shout out to questlove for winning that one for summer soul and you know we saw this exchange where he said he made the joke will kind of is laughing

jada is clearly not pleased with it will goes on stage smacks him then goes back and saying keep my keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth and then the show went on yeah and then he won an academy award and then apologized i don't know where to pick up i just want to open the floor because i think for many people we saw this and we're like what the fuck just happened yeah uh meanwhile you saw many people clutching their pearls like they couldn't believe what they had seen and calling for Will Smith's Academy Award to be taken away. While many people have pointed out, they're like, what about Roman Polanski? What about Woody? Yeah. You want to handle those first and then you want to talk about Will Smith until then? Why shut the fuck up? But yes. Thoughts. What what was everybody feeling?

The bad jokes, the way to handle it. Was that the only way to handle it? Because there are some people on Twitter who like, yep, I would have done. You know, you had like big husband energy gang on Twitter being like, yeah, that's exactly what you got to fucking do. Then you have people being like, I like comedians being slapped for bad jokes. There's every you got. You got it all from this a lot of takes i think it's complex i think that's the way it is it's gonna be it's always gonna be complex

we're not neither of us are the people in the situation and i think right now is like do i think you should just slap somebody for a bad joke no do i think but i definitely think he was a lot of the reaction because that's the end of the day if i'm if i'm saying something about someone specifically when they're right in front of me day if i'm if i'm saying something about someone specifically when they're right in front of me yeah i open them appearance i opened i opened it this like as much as i've been with santa for 15 years every time i've i've made a comment about somebody on stage that i know that i'm allowing them the opportunity to say something back to me and that's that's just kind of how that that's it's like especially with roast jokes you kind of have

to have an agreement with people like whenever like you like and yeah sometimes people are like yeah this is where i'm at this is the situation that i'm in and it's fine to tell that kind of a joke but also we don't know what her day was like we don't know what happened to her before that like that so this whole situation is always going to be like should he react that way i would say no but should like there be legal repercussions should he get the academy revoked of him and it's like also no uh that's that's like that's you're finding your way to a lot of people like finding a way to apply their racism to this situation right and it's kind that's a frustrating part of it and i think for me it's like this is actually between chris rock and will

smith now it's like whatever whatever repercussions i need to have in the situation next that's chris rock's business right and he's already said i'm not pressing charges yeah that's not we're not doing that obviously of course he's not pressed i mean here's the thing like you know i'll say this and then i'll go back to just the moment of course chris rock ain't pressing charges you know chris rock is a black man right who look i mean we i don't know if we've all been in fights but we or where we all grew up i grew up in the hood like chris rock ain't pressing fucking charges that was that's a very white response sorry like it's a very white suburban response you should press charge we're getting like yeah oh that's right because the police do shit for you. Yeah. You're not looking at the police completely differently.

People fight. All right? You know? Yeah. Now, to the moment. I was at an Oscar party. Shout out to Demi. I did Wee Bay.

I was at his party. Okay. And I was very high. And when it happened, I thought that it was fake, because I was watching live. Right. So, you know, like, I thought it was staged, because I was watching I watched it live right so you know like I thought it was I thought it was staged because the way the camera went like and we all did everybody at that party thought it was staged we thought it was just a moment you know like a fun moment

because well because uh Regina Hall had that moment with all the actors who came up on stage earlier and Will Smith didn't come up I don't know if you guys know about that. But it was a moment. They made a joke about it. So I thought like, oh, Will actually coming on stage now. Like because he got called up on stage earlier in the show. So we all thought it was fake. And then the sound cut off. Yeah.

And like and then you could read Will's lips. Keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth. Yeah. And we all and like and we all just started like what the fuck was that real and it blew my high like i snapped i became sober after that right yeah you know and and then once and then that's all we could talk about and it was a mood changer i'm not gonna say it wasn't a mood changer it was a fucking mood cultural reset live yeah it was a mood it was a mood

changer at the party i was at you could tell it was a mood changer and then when we heard the uncensored version and you could hear that you could hear his voice keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth i don't know if i don't know if your listening audience knows how big the dobie theater is but i guarantee you the last person in the last row heard that nigga when he said that, right? It was quiet. Yeah, it was dead quiet. You could hear it in his voice.

And then hearing Chris Rock, it's a crazy fucking moment. And here's what I'll say to all of it. Was it a tasteless joke? Sure. Yes. Especially if Chrisris rock knew if he doesn't know i also doubt that chris rock wrote that joke so somebody who wrote the joke probably knew so it's old enough that i believe he wrote it maybe he did maybe he wrote a jane joke that woman got

short hair what is this gi jane thatI. Jane? Shut up. Who knows? That was an in-the-moment joke. I think the last joke didn't do too well. They was like, you know what? Let me throw this one out. Let me throw some shit. Don't throw things at the wall right now. This is the wrong place. Yeah, because that's the thing too. It was backed up with another bad joke. The Penelope Cruz Javier

Bad Dem joke. Here's my thing, man. You know, I'm seeing a lot of takes. I've seen a lot of white women centering themselves with this. i'm seeing a lot of takes i've seen a lot of white women centering themselves with this i'm seeing a lot of you know the obviously i'm seeing a lot of white men oh he could have killed the violence of these negroes like i'm seeing a lot of that too fuck them here's what here's what the take that i don't understand is a lot of people saying like yo you wouldn't defend your wife either yo we got to protect black women all these things and and i think it's very disingenuous

to say that's not how we feel of course we feel like you should defend your wife or your partner of course we feel like we got to protect black women and things like that. I tell you the thing I'm most upset about. Is that and it's no secret, I love Will Smith. I've been following this dude's career for 30 years. I love the man. I've been wanting him to win an Oscar for 20 years. man to win an oscar for best actor or somewhere around those low numbers 30 year career third nomination playing somebody who is portraying uh a father of two legendary black queens in sports and in just the world like i'm more upset that we are talking about this and not the fact that will smith just won his first Oscar. And I'm not assigning fault to that reason or, you know, you can put the fault on him. You can put the fault on whoever. It's just a very unfortunate situation that like, once again, as black people, our moments get taken from us, whether it's by our own doing or like by, you know, doing

stuff outside of, but it's just always feels like we can never just have our moments. And that is what's sad to me. I'm not upset about it. It's just a sad thing when you put all of it together. On top of that, I know I'm talking a lot, but last thing I'll say is people keep forgetting this dude is from West Philadelphia, man. I know like white people feel comfortable with him as a black man in america but you know he showed them real quick like all right jock ribbon hood don't forget don't forget now i'm looking at that i'm like did he

just did he just wanted to g up on chris rock because he you know was like wait let me remember my operating system you taking shots at my wife in public you think I'm not gonna do that or a lot of people are like is he distressed too like what's going on I think he was pissed off I think it was whatever happened that day it was such a problem

I can't imagine like when you're talking about the Oscars like especially working in this industry and understanding the amount of stress anything makes you feel and how intense a day like that can be that can and that's the last thing you want is somebody make fun of Jada

and that's the last thing in that moment he saw his wife upset and that's a tough choice to be that's a tough position to put somebody in especially based on their relationship and how straining we've seen it become. Because we even saw the memes. Yeah.

Right. So we can only imagine like whatever, like testing that relationship in, especially in this realm. That's, that's, I don't know. Like I, that's, it's tough to say. It's a tough call to make because it is that kind of anger is a very specific kind of anger and just only like because he might want to do more than that he might have like yeah but he'd be right like the least i can do is slap this man and it wasn't that strong the slap like it's not chris rock's like chris rock is it was a check yeah he was too he how

much more weight does he have on chris rock and? Yeah. Like if Chris Rock was able to bounce back from that slap, it was a warning slap, not a... Yeah, it would have been a close fist. I'm going to break your face slap. And you're right too, man. You're right when you say, you know, the fact that it was a warning slap, but you could hear it in the tone in his voice.

It sounded like I'm fed up. Yeah. It was a in his voice it it sounded like i'm fed up yeah it was a fed up moment it sounded like he was fed i don't know if he's fed up about you know being the butt of a lot of jokes i mean they are very open they're very open family and they uh tell us everything that pops in their fucking minds right right but maybe that's by design maybe it's like we're you know you're talking about us all the time already like let's try to take control of this narrative and just you know it's what it can feel like and you know in that moment that was the way he could take control of the narrative i don't know you know i think the fucked up thing is that's going to be used against will smith I think, a lot.

You know what I mean? I can't imagine. I don't know how long it's going to take before someone at another award shows like, I don't want Will coming up on stage. But any day, he can take that. That's the thing. He wants to make it about, he was like, you made fun of my wife, I'll make that about me.

Which is essentially the... At the end of the day, no one's going to give Jada the flag. They're going to respect her from that point on. So he's getting what he truly ultimately was because he knows he can handle the pressure of publicity. He's like, I'm fine with you guys focusing on me, but you will always respect Jada from this point on. And they probably will. And he's like, I don't care if you make more crying husband memes or whatever. Like, I'm built for it.

Yeah. And it's just it's like, you know, when you look at it, you're like, yeah, you don't jokes about people's appearances, especially if they're having some like some condition like alopecia. Like, that's just a fucking dumb joke. It's not it's not comedy in the like even the most generous sense. And on some level, I was thinking i'm like man if will played it over he could have gone on stage and just shamed chris rock for making a joke like that and it would have been beyond you'd have been like holy shit i mean because you know i think a lot of times too people talk about are we having a reckoning with what we think is funny still

we still talk about people's appearances and a lot of people have said like do when you have disabilities certain things are just fair game for jokes because it's such a small group that it feels like a certain way but what you know like it's tough to say because then if he did that then people like long long like oh you're trying to cancel Chris Rock now and like now

but right now guess what Chris Rock is still going to not lose his career like it's like you told like this is probably the best possible outcome for this kind of a situation. Cause you're not going to cancel Chris Rock for a dumb joke now. And you're not going to have to deal with like the guilt, like him going up there to guilt him. I'll like,

what we've learned is talk shit, get hit. And sometimes that might be the lesson that we need to learn. Yeah, man. I mean, you know, listen,

somebody wrote on Twitter, you could tell the type of, uh, people, people grew up with by their responses to this. Cause you know, listen, somebody wrote on Twitter, you could tell the type of people people grew up with by their responses to this. Because, you know, look, my whole thing was, again, you know, the moment it stepped down a little bit and you did it in front of all those people. But I'm not surprised that the, you know, you talk shit, you hit a nigga. Like, you hit somebody, bro. Like, that is a very common response where i grew up and it's

not and it's not a healthy one at all it's not a healthy one no it's not a healthy one but it's not a surprising one it's a very surprising one it's not the healthiest one but at the end of the day it's not gonna it's not gonna like chris rocks gets to revive his career from this because he's not been guilted by his joke it's he's just like this is a this is this thing that we reckon together and it's it's one of the situations where i think everyone involved is knows how to handle the aftermath and and a lot of the white people getting involved need to calm down a little bit right yeah i think this is one of the situations like let the community take care of itself we don't need your input right

like some of these people like yeah this is unfortunately this got this uh business was sorted out in front of y'all so i know it feels like it's inviting commentary but this is very much one of those things too you're like yeah it's one of the things where it's like ah you should have waited till the after party to slap him yeah i feel like that was my that was my first like problematic uh toxic man thing i was like no man tighten his ass up at the after party like don't do that shit on feel like that was my first problematic toxic man thing. I was like, no, man, tighten his ass up at the after party. Don't do that shit on stage. That's too many eyes if you're really trying to do that. And here's the funny thing, too, and a lot of people aren't realizing this.

After the slap, the audience laughed. Yeah. Yeah, well, they didn't know what the fuck was going on. Because a lot of people didn't know what was going on, right? They thought it was a bit. So even if you just keep it at that slap, once people realize it's real, you know, I think what really set people off, because everybody eventually heard the uncensored part, was hearing his voice. Like, hearing his voice and hearing how he sounded after that is what set people off. And you know why?

It is because, especially when you get, like, Jud judd apatow right he could have killed him now he couldn't have killed him from a slap you know what you got scared of you got scared of hearing a black man's voice and you got scared of hearing the anger in his voice because that's what you associate black man for is anger and violence and once you put those two things together and you hear the tone and you feel that so we felt that shit keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth i felt that shit when he said that right and when judd apatow felt that it made him scared of a black man right it's not the slap nobody gives a shit about a slap it It's a fucking slap. You know, but coupling those two things together, that's what people got scared of. It's like, oh, we haven't heard.

We haven't heard this side of Will Smith. Will Smith has slapped people before. He slapped somebody on the red carpet. I don't know if y'all remember that. Like a few years ago, somebody like tried to kiss him and he like gave him a backhand slap. He slapped people before. But then he did, you know, laughed it off. And after now it's just a funny meme.

But hearing him say, keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth and hearing that octave change and hearing him stop code switching, which he does often like that scared people. Yeah. And on top of it, there's, you know, like you're saying, it really took because I started watching afterwards and it just felt like a fucking tornado swept through there. Like it was, it was just, the energy was so weird. And on top of that, completely takes all the attention off of like the other sort of firsts that have, or just sort of historical moments. You know, you had Ariana DeBose win as, you know, the first Afro Latina to win an Oscar. And she's pointing out, she's like, you know who the last latina to win was rita moreno over there for the same fucking role so what are we doing and you you have these moments where there are these like really like these these poignant

moments and people are making these observations and and celebrating these historic wins and at the end of the day everyone's just completely sort of sort you know in in a state of shock of saying like okay he smacked him then he got back to his seat we're letting him cook apparently uh super producer Justin was telling me that as this was happening the the academy was quote strongly considering removing him after what had happened but quote apparently they couldn't mobilize to make a decision before he won Best Actor. They had a whole hour and a half. Well, you could tell also from a broadcast standpoint that they switched it up. Best Actor was probably going to go last. You know, and the Pulp Fiction people were there to nominate the Best Picture.

But they was like, we got to get this shit. You know, we got to get it because we know we got to get because we know will don't talk we know we know he gonna talk we got it we can't end the show on will smith giving a speech if he wins like which was very likely because you know he was a front runner so they switched up the broadcast as well and made that you know the first out of the big three as opposed to the last out of the big three yeah it's it's it's wild is it was a wild broadcast i mean look twitter was very fun last night it was very funny you know but then also it was also the worst parts of twitter too everybody with their takes and centering themselves and that's just twitter that's what it is that's the wild part is twitter like in the first first hour you're like

but then you're like, hold on. This is the thing that Twitter does is they don't let the dust settle. So in the chaos of it, you can laugh at the most insensitive shit. And then you have to kind of give yourself some distance and really ruminate on what happened. And you're like, yeah. Can I also say this, too? Because you brought this point up, Miles. And I want to be I want to i want to say this part

i want to say congratulations you know from somebody who grew up in a household with deaf people uh congratulations to coda winning congratulations to you know the actor winning for best supporting actor it was beautiful moment, the In Memoriam was beautiful. Congratulations to, you know, Ariana DeBow. Congratulations to Questlove, Queen of Basketball. So many,

and also congratulations to Will Smith for winning his fucking Oscar. Like, I wanted, like, you know, we're, like you said, we were talking about this slap and all these moments

that were so great last night that really celebrated a lot of brown people and a lot of brown people and a lot of marginalized people and a lot of of really fantastic artists a lot of moments that were celebrated are now overshadowed uh as somebody a part of the black community as somebody who has family in the deaf community those were very special for me to see so i i want to publicly be able to say that that those were beautiful as moments and i agree with that and i think it's uh it's gonna suck because that's the

way that these moments do get diminished but i don't uh one of the the greatest shames of these kind of situations is when any time black people do any sort of reaction if it's treated like the society's going down the fucking well and people feel that this is going to be the standard norm of how people react. And it's like, y'all need to calm down. That's not how the world has not changed. Every comedian is not get slapped the second they get on stage from this point on. And you don't have to voice that opinion. And I feel like the issue is that the Oscars are what they are.

those those i i feel like the issue is that the the oscars are what they are and they've never been fully uh representative of uh how they should award uh people of color and when we have our tiny wins it's it is it's always a shame because they they always make it a bit of it's they always never focus on it but yeah yeah it was still it's still good tv look chris rock sat there right after like yo is going to be the greatest moment in television history right here. I almost watched the Oscars myself because of that moment. Seriously. And that's the thing, too. The hosts were great.

Amy Schumer, Wanda Sykes, Regina Hall did fantastic. You know, the black producer, it felt like all the music was black. All the music, all night was black like all the interludes in between all the when everybody won lovely day was playing like it it had like a really unique energy to that performance uh which is why i guess michael che was like hey oscar's too black oh shit i think we have to end it on that one uh solomon and jakees thank you so much for joining me today um solomon where can people find you follow you i know they can see you in minneapolis coming up but uh let people know and what's the tweet that you like also? Yeah, Solomon Georgiou all across

the board, Twitter, Instagram. There's no other Solomon Georgiou. If there is, take him out for me. And I actually will have a podcast coming out March 31st with Team Coco called The Juice. It's about just gossip, like small-scale gossip, no celebrity stuff, just

insane shit that people submit to me. And I'm very excited for that so yeah nice oh yeah uh tweet is there a tweet or any other work of social media that gave you a chuckle can be slap related or not it is slap related and it's uh somebody edited the slap and ended it with the uh with uh with everybody hates chris theme song and that got me very funny so funny uh jakeese thank you so much again for helping me host today where can people find you and follow you well hey the tweets you like i'll be here all week y'all so as always you can find me in these streets at jackie's neil on everything

maybe after this week, we'll finally get over that threshold and we can release the nudes. Who knows? I got three tweets. I got three tweets. I got three tweets for y'all. The thing are all funny. And it's all about the Oscars last night,

but they're all funny. This is from hashtag halter crop top, or their username is Tom Cruz's shoe lifts, which is very funny. And it was like the Oscars about to be wider than ever next year, which is true. A homie of mine wrote a tweet who is Leonard Smith Jr., very funny comedian here in LA. And he was like like between judge Jackson,

the season three premiere, Atlanta premiere, and Will Smith slapping Chris rock, then winning an Oscar black folks done had a hell of a week. Um, funny and sweet though. Comes from at Zach Fox. And he was like,

nigga slapped me in front of Zoe Kravitz. They gonna have to put me down like old yellow. he was like niggas slapped me in front of zoe kravitz they're gonna have to put me down like old yeller so true so much so much oh man that got me that would got me you can find me uh on twitter and instagram at miles of gray m-i-l-e-s-g-o-f-g-r-a-y i see a lot of people tweet at me and then misspell my fucking last name but you spelled my handle right how the fuck you gonna do that and also check me out on the other podcast 420 day fiance and also coming up soon the premiere episode of mad boosties of the new basketball podcast we're doing you might see see, you might hear Jaquise Neal pop up in one of those early episodes. That, you know, just something to think about that will be coming out soon.

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