The Daily Zeitgeist - Putin X Applebee’s Collab, America’s Got ‘Nintendo Body’ 2.28.22

Episode Date: February 28, 2022

In episode 1093, Jack and Miles are joined by co-host of Split Ends and on-air talent at the NFL Network, Erica Tamposi to discuss Putin’s Motives, CNN Knew Exactly What it Was Doing With That Applebee’s Commercial, Speaking of war, Pentagon thinks the NINTENDO GENERATION IS SOFT, A little good news? Gerrymandered maps takin' Ls, More Random Celebrities Are Shilling For Crypto and more! Putin’s Motives CNN Knew Exactly What it Was Doing With That Applebee’s Commercial America is a living satire': Twitter is left bewildered by viral clip of a CNN reporter discussing Nick Cordero's COVID-19 death - which was followed by an Applebee's ad urging people to 'dine in' TV networks ready their arsenals for next war Speaking of war, Pentagon thinks the NINTENDO GENERATION IS SOFT A little good news? Gerrymandered maps takin' Ls Pennsylvania has a new congressional map that will keep the state intensely competitive More Random Celebrities Are Shilling For Crypto Don’t Listen to the Matt Damon Crypto Ad LISTEN: Shotan by Femi Kuti Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's Monday, February 28th, 2022, which means it is the last day of Black History Month. Uh-huh. And? Also? Also. Also. Of course. Hold on, let me pull it up because it's the National Calendar Day. Oh, it's National Tooth Fairy Day and National Public Sleeping Day. Wow. I don't know what that means.

Public sleeping day. Like, just take a nap in public? Yeah. Okay. Unless you're unhoused, in which case that's illegal, depending on the city you're in. Right. I don't know how Tony and the police are, but I don't know. I don't knowhoused, in which case that's illegal, depending on the city you're in. Right. Or how phony the police are. But I don't know.

I don't know how they want you to celebrate that. National Public Sleeping Day is very confusing to me. It's a day for anyone and everyone to take a nap on a blanket at the beach, the park, the movie theater. Wait, on the movie theater? That's just a straight-up waste of money. That sounds like a day that was come up by people who want to steal your lunch or your money. They're like, yeah, yeah. No no you just take a nap in the park just the lobby of like lunch snatchers like yeah man we gotta we gotta get this thing on the on the counter man people just sleeping

yogi bear came up with this steal your picnic lunch well my name is jack o'brien aka it's a p mario aka super mario oddest p aka super mario galaxy p aka super mario brothers p which is super mario brothers 3 aka luigi's mansion that is courtesy of warren the werebear he said i don't know why, but on a Nintendo kick this morning. And we like to talk about how Americans got tricked into drinking their own pee by the pandemic. Tricked? Tricked. Just give me a reason. Just looking for a reason.

Give me a reason, man. There it is. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, it's Miles Gray. I was wondering if this year was a leap year, and I realize it's not. I lost a bet, and I should have thought about it deeper. But anyway, a.k.a. $5 pour, Miles Gray. You lost a bet with someone because you thought it was a leap year i i just

kind of went in real hot with it and i was just kind of in a mood and like as i said i was like wait no 2020 had the fucking leap and i was like so yeah seems like an easy one to yeah and i remember in step by step cody the character on that show, born on a leap year. So I remember when he was 20 years old, he's like, I'm actually only five. That's fucking tight, man. The writers killed it with that. Yeah. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the co-host of the podcast Split Ends, the broadcast podcast. You may know her from the NFL Network or have heard her as the producer of the jeselnik and rosenthal vanity project it's erica tamposi hey hey what's up what up did i mispronounce your last name well how how we do okay yeah no tamposi it is that's great there it

is crushed it where yeah where are you coming to us from i'm in la okay how about you guys same same yeah look at the home of the nfl champs yeah the rams i mean the city could care less about there they opened up a store at the grove that's like championship gear. And I did see somebody walking out fully kitted up. Rammed up. Yeah. Nice. Who's your guys teams? I if I had to pick one, it was it's probably the Raiders because when they were in L.A., that's I had the most familial connection to them.

But over and then I think and then the 90s, I was always like a Niners or Cowboys fan because of Dion and such. Yeah. I was a Pats fan. Was. Still am-ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like from back in the Bledsoe days. And I don't know.

It's tough. It's tough for me to- I'm from New England, so I'm a diehard Masshole living in LA. And are the Pats your team? They are. Absolutely. Yes. What part of Massachusetts are you from? Well, technically New Hampshire, but I'm

like 45 minutes outside of Boston. That's my favorite part of Massachusetts actually. Right? That you don't live there? It's just outside of New Hampshire. So you guys know Boston. You're familiar with Boston. Yes. You're actually going to go outside of Boston and actually leave the state and then that's where I'm Boston. Yes. You're actually going to go outside of Boston and actually leave the state. And then that's where I'm from.

Yeah. Is there something like did you used to be able to get booze up there like at a younger age or was I remember driving up there once when I lived in Massachusetts? thing with New Hampshire is no sales tax. So people from Massachusetts, like I went to UNH and Ivy school. I'm sure you guys have heard of it. And the university of New Hampshire, there's a lot of kids from, from mass because it's, it's short driving distance. I mean, you can get from LA to Culver city in a slower amount of time than you can from, we're talking super LA and New Hampshire specific guys. So if you're anywhere else, just tune out. But it's just so close, but people would come up to New Hampshire to buy booze because then it's cheaper. I was a notorious tax dodge when I was a 17-year-old. Nice.

Gotta get in New Hampshire, man. I really, truly can't remember why we did that. Maybe it was because it was just cheaper and my friends were like trying to shave an edge but anyways maybe you had to go look at the old man in the mountain shed a tear all right the beauty yeah yeah yeah i did my fourth grade state report was on new hampshire i don't know why i picked new hampshire i was like man, people are going for states you heard of. Because I'm like 10, 9, I'm like, New Hampshire? Yeah. When the old man on the mountain fell, it was heartbreaking for the state.

We got to find another thing, guys. Was that what everybody in New Hampshire said? They were like, ah, we got to find a different. They're like, oh, what now? Yeah. And for people who don't know, would you mind explaining what the old man on the mountain is? Yeah. So it was this really, really intricate rock on the side of the highway that looks like an old man.

It sort of had like an Abe Lincoln nose. And from the side profile was like the old man. So people would be like, hey, you're going to New Hampshire, the old man on the mountain. And then the rock, you know, as rocks do after years, fell off the mountain. And so the rock, not Dwayne Johnson, but the old man on the mountain, the rock has. I was so confused until right now. I figured I had to give some context. Okay. So not Dwayne Johnson. Cool. Well, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a aware of the whole situation over there is

like, so why are they doing this? And I've heard a lot of different theories. So we'll talk about those. I also have like my own theory. Theories necessarily. It's pretty out there articulated. articulated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to talk about CNN's, that transition from the Kiev air raid sirens to an Applebee's commercial, which was, you know, just an absurd moment, awful display of the contradiction at the core of our society, but also like a long, rich tradition for CNN and network news. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about how the Pentagon is, they want to let us know we're a bunch of soft bodies. I guess they've been letting us know that for a long time.

Oh, yeah. But the Nintendo generation in particular, too soft. Can't hack it anymore. According to Sergeant Mant manger your grandpa the nintendo jenner okay uh-huh we're gonna talk about a celebrity shilling for crypto all that plenty more but first erica we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history okay so i went and looked into this and I was like, okay, something in my search history. There's a lot of boring stuff too, but there was something that popped up and I guess,

should I give this to you guys without context first? Sure. We love that. Yeah. Okay. Dog, diarrhea, Roomba, what to do? Oh no. All right. Let me see if I can put this one together. Oh, no. All right. Let me see if I can put this one together. Oh, that sounds like a bad night. Okay. That sounds like a bad night.

I'm sorry. Yeah. Is it that you were looking for videos of Roombas that had destroyed houses after that? Or you were like, it's happened. It happened. And it was not good. I'll tell you guys that. Yeah. So I have a dog. He's a little guy. And he was not not good. I'll tell you guys that. So I have a dog.

He's a little guy and he was not feeling good. He was really, really sick to the point where it was two days in a row of like every 15 minutes having to go outside to the point of day two where I'm like, I need to sleep. I'm going to work.

Like I was going crazy. So I decided to put like pee pads down by the door. So like Thor, you know, you got to go. You go on your pee pad. He's seven. He knows decided to put like pee pads down by the, by the door. So like Thor, you know, you got to go, you go on your pee pad. He's seven. He knows what to do. So Thor is the dog's name. Yeah. Thor is my Roomba's name actually. No. And so, so Thor, you know, does his business every 20 minutes on the, on the pee pad. And I wake up to the sound of the roomba started by itself which i don't know how that happened and it was dragging the p-pad across the floor and the pad was tangled up in it dragging across my front like living room across the entire house like a shit zamboni basically

literally yeah wow so i was like, Google's got to know what to do when this happens. Yeah, what did Google even say? It was like, dude, just throw that shit away. Yeah, Google was like burn the house down. Burn down your house and move on. Yeah. It was like you need to move, you need to get rid of Thor, you need to like do everything.

Okay, you need to go, okay, you need to put this in private browsing mode and you need to get a new ID because you're going to burn your house down. And who you are is dead now, actually. Yeah. No insurance claim, nothing. Oh, man. Wow.

I'm sorry that happened. So there really is nothing you can do? Yeah. Jokes aside. The Roomba warranty number came up. Oh, wow. Better get a new one. Yikes.

Because you can't use that again you can't like be like oh yeah washed it out and like it's yeah would you take it to eco lab or something and have them commercially sterilize it yeah yeah she she's gone she's gone she's old man in the mountain and yeah what's something you think is overrated okay overrated this was a This was a question that was on my mind a lot because I was like, there are a lot of things that I think are overrated, but they're up for discussion and all this kind of stuff. And I don't know how you come down on this, but espresso martinis. Now, a lot of my friends love them. They're all about them. And yes, for the Four Loko generation that turned into vodka Red Bulls, that turned into espresso martinis, which is still the upper and downer and whatever.

But I was at the bar recently, you know, and I'm 30 at the bar and my friend gets an espresso martini. And I'm like, you're chugging a chocolate shake with Bailey's to like stay up right now. Like this, this just doesn't do it for me. I'd rather, you know, force down a vodka Red Bull, not my, my choice, but if you're really needing to stay up, like I don't need to be having a huge thick chocolate, you know, espresso martini just doesn't do it for me. Yeah. I, anything that isn't a regular martini is like a no for me. Like when you start getting weird with, I'm like, no. I like

a really simple, dirty martini. Like, just dry. That's it. So espresso martinis, yeah, like you said, to me it sounds like... Because I watch Below Deck, that Bravo show, and I feel like so many people on that show ask for espresso

martinis, and I'm like, what? And I notice that wave happening. I'm like, what? And I noticed that like wave happening. I'm like, why are people drinking this shit now? I also think that maybe I assumed they were just like flavored that way. Like espresso flavored vodka or something. It's espresso. It is Bailey's. I think it is.

It's a lot of stuff. But then I also think. It's not a martini at that point. No, not at all. It's just in a martini glass. Yeah. Am I just a binge drinker? Like maybe people are just like, I have a nice espresso martini after my dinner out.

And I'm like, why do you want to drink that and fill up when you could have like, you know, three and a half vodka sodas before you go to the next place? Like maybe it's a me thing but you're overrated no i i definitely agree yeah vodka coffee liqueur espresso simple syrup oh no simple syrup so they're adding on top of the coffee lick liquor they're adding syrup yeah damn nah i mean that sounds very they need to rename that. Because there's two words there that don't ring very American to me. But that is a drink made as a trap for Americans. And the most sugar that you can possibly pack into a small martini glass.

Yeah. It's like cocaine for Karens. It's like what it feels like that karen cocaine yeah exactly oh let me get a karen coke oh okay all right we see you yeah i had a when i drank i had a policy of i only drank martinis when i was wearing a tuxedo and i would not drink anything else when i had a tuxedo on if there was a full beer bar. Do you like the olives or do you do it?

I love olives. I still, to this day. Yeah. Now you're just like, give me a martini glass full of olives. What is something you think is underrated? Okay. Underrated. And maybe once again, I am spinning to a circuit, a certain market, but airdrop for iPhone users. And for someone that works in editing or producing, or I make my own content or whatever, I can legitimately film something on my iPhone, click a button, and it appears on my Mac. Like that is crazy. Do you guys understand this? Yes. Like I can take a photo right now and then make it like magically appear on my Mac.

Like why are not people talking about this? Like this is insane. Yeah. It is that like I love that you have perspective about how good technology is because you'll meet people like, oh my God, it's like taking so long. I'm like, you just sent 45 videos at once to someone standing next to you without a cable. Let's rejoice in that. And also in that same vein, like being able to like, ha ha, a text or like it, and then just end the conversation. Like you don't have to answer.

You can just be like, ha ha, and then you're done. Right. Like, why are we talking about this, you guys? like you don't have to answer you can just be like haha and then you're done right yeah right like why are we talking about this you guys like i know there's important stuff going on but like this is huge yeah tap backs are like the great uh punctuator of a conversation you're right i didn't even think of how it's saving me having to say something i don't mean right just be like cool thumbs up oh thumbs down to that Boom Just Good

Done I've interacted Yeah I have a friend on group texts Who will like critique Your use of that Will be like Why did you thumbs up that

What was the What was your thinking on that Just to Whoa Yeah Oh just to Just to force you into more Yeah

Hold on walk me through this Walk me through this Walk me through It's never like something that he wrote. It's like something somebody else wrote. He'd be like, why did you like that? So you emphasized bad news when he wrote that? It shocked me.

Take me through that really quick. Yeah. Walk me through this. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about some news. Quick break. We'll come back and talk about some news.

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And we're back. And yeah, first question people seem to ask about the Russia thing, why is Russia doing this? Which, I don't know. It seems like you heard about it being like the westernmost point, so like strategically significant, the closest to Western Europe of the places like Russia once controlled, I actually heard an interesting explanation that Ukraine is actually like where all of Russian civilization was actually formed. And then it like kind of spread out from there. But it's actually, you know, for somebody who is supposedly a like Russian supremacist, like that's that would be pretty significant if the place that was like showed you the direction to go was suddenly like nah fuck fuck fuck all everything you're all about yeah we're kind of into doing our own thing yeah we're kind of fuck the west seems to be onto something but there's also you know that like uh there's a The Hill piece that is like Putin. And meanwhile, is exactly where he likes to be right at the center of the media narrative and or like in the spotlight, basically.

And that was something that occurred to me, like when they were dragging out the like, will they, won't they war? Like, will they, won't they invade side of it and everyone was like why it's not clear what they're gaining or you know the the strategic purpose of all of this and i just i feel like he is a he just loves to see his name in the paper like i think he's more similar to trump than we i mean yeah i think on this in sort of the paper. Like, I think he's more similar to Trump than we realize. I mean, yeah, I think in sort of the ego version, too. But I think, you know, aside from him saying, like, I have to do it to prevent ethnic cleansing or protect ethnic Russians,

and on top of NATO expansion, he's also, he uses very clearly, like, words that are him saying, like, I'm trying to rebuild, like, the Russian Empire before, like, you know, restore the glory of Russia. Yeah, like, pre-USSR. Yeah, because he obviously does, the way he felt the Soviet Union was, like, broken up, he was like, no, like, you know, that was a huge wound for him that he carries with him and feeds a lot of this energy to expand and sort of reclaim these like territories but

yeah it's it is it again like it's just one of these moments too where for a person who's just sort of like well my power is waning i need to show strength to try and bolster my credibility at home even though it's clear many russian people do not want a war you know it's it it's it it has the unfortunate effect of like you look at the people that now have to fight because of this because you even look at like these like kids that are like 18 that they're saying that they get they got to ukraine the russian army they're like we we were told this wasn't like a thing where like we were going to actively like be having like fight people and potentially kill people and you just i don't know the whole of it

just becomes even more, you know, heartbreaking all because, yeah, like to your point, this is a way for him to have a spotlight while also having his very like singular aims of, you know, restoring his empire. Right. We've talked about how like narcissism is the cheat code in the modern world, right? Like, especially in the context of America, you know, with Trump and Kanye kind of in different ways, but just, you know, becoming some of the most powerful figures in the history of the culture in terms of their influence

through just, like, a path a pathological like debilitating what like could have been in another era like a debilitating type of narcissism in like this era and as like our version of american you know late-stage capitalism evolves like that becomes more and more like the sicker you are in that way the like stronger your hand or like the more the better your instincts for just taking up more and more of the oxygen in the media landscape and like i can't imagine he is displeased with what he is seeing in media not just social but like every type of media like where he is now being treated as like the living embodiment of like hitler essentially like in mainstream media outlets like i just i wonder like this is a thought experiment people

do a lot with mass shooters that like if you just never mention their name like would mass shooters be like way less common like i wonder if you know his name wasn't mentioned in the headlines but i think yeah but i think it simplifies like this larger struggle between the like western capitalism and communism that's sort of at the heart of like how this tension begins like with the creation of nato like it's it's such a like integral part of the history of the region that that's what's always kind of like the underpinnings of it too of like who's gonna who's gonna win in the end of this and that's what it's like and on top of that like we're also we're watching this like war play out like on social media which is the most surreal thing i think i've ever experienced

because i don't know if i'm becoming more empathetic or desensitized because the images you see are so vivid and graphic that I'm like, Oh fuck. Like I don't, it's overwhelmed. It's truly overwhelming to like be able to see, you know, people actually in real time seeing like a fighter jet, the hit a building with like missiles with people recording from the inside.

It's like throughout all of it too. I'm also processing. I'm like, what does it even mean to be like a person conscious in the year 2022 in the age of social media and the internet with like a war breaking out? And is that, is that helping? I don't know.

Like I've had this weird moment where I'm not sure what it's, what my, what I'm actually experiencing as I look at it all. Cause it's overwhelming. Yeah. It's fucking horrifying. All right. Well,

let's, I look at it all because it's overwhelming. Yeah, it's fucking horrifying. All right. Well, let's let's talk about one way that the mainstream media also having a tough time covering this, and that is CNN cutting from a shot of Kiev with air raid sirens going off like just, you know, a moment of crisis to an Applebee's commercial. I don't know. Should we play the audio?

Do we think that? Yeah. For the spookiest transition of the year. It's worth it. Yeah. So this is them going, you know, going to break, saying that these are the sort of chyron at the bottom says air raid sirens ring out in Ukraine's capital and a little bit of chicken oh my gosh yeah cut to a cowboy shaking his buttaking his little butt in his Wrangler jeans. I mean, you gotta laugh. Like, when I saw that, my jaw hit the floor. I was like, I just cannot believe this is real. Yeah.

Right, again, like, everything about watching what's happening feels like this massive joke or experiment gone awry where I'm like, huh? We really went from, like, huh? We, we really went from like hearing air raid sirens to just, you know,

a little bit of chicken fried and cold beer. I'm seeing that like displayed as like a gaffe or like treated as a gaffe, but like that is, that is CNN's business model and like the entire business model of like any news supported by advertisements, you know, like it it's it's not a gaffe that is like that it's kind of tying into like the whole thing of like this isn't these aren't like momentary screw-ups like this is the system that we've built and that we live in we're just like seeing it in new context now that like war is happening yeah but applebee's expressed disappointment in the actions of the network and expressed how

deeply concerned everyone at applebee's is about the situation in ukraine so applebee's is standing in solidarity with ukraine that's good is that Yeah, that's good. But they paid for the ad. Like, they know, like, if you're advertising on CNN anyways, like, you know what you're getting, essentially, too. So I don't think, like, I've been obviously in a live newsroom in a TV production setting, and there's, like, so many cooks in the kitchen. Stuff happens. Yes, but specifically probably wasn't someone at applebee's you know corpse saying let's put it here for sure no no right there's no chance but also the fact that like that cnn that someone like a showrunner or anything would be like well we got to get this in and at the top of the hour like let's put it here like i i just don't know where else you would put it but why you would put

it or at least like fade out don't do a such a abrupt transition or it's like a little bit of chicken fried you're like in the thing the chiron was still up it's like the war of you know ukraine and russia is like sponsored by applebee is like the sampler platter right ridiculous i feel like the fact that it was picture in picture so you could still see you know that that's like the live war thing that they will do anytime they're you know covering breaking news they'll like keep part of the the picture up on part of the screen i feel like that's giving them a chance to be like ah that was the that was the issue we're not doing that anymore like we're good we're not going to do

picture in picture ads anymore and it's like i don't think that's what people are like no i'm like don't the rates go up like it's like the super bowl like when they know like they're going to be dealing with a lot of eyeballs because i know like during election season it's like that yeah like you know they know it's like hey man if people ah the rate card just got a little bit, little bit higher. Yeah, I mean, see, so J.M. put together the story pointing out the like, this is what CNN was built on, actually. Like they first became a cable network of note during the Gulf War in Iraq in the early 90s. And they dropped commercials for a couple of days to avoid seeming tasteless at the beginning of the war. commercials for a couple days to avoid seeming tasteless at the beginning of the war but then a couple days later the ads were back and their rates had gone from 30 second spots costing

between three thousand five hundred dollars and five thousand dollars to thirty thousand dollars so yeah it's like the the whole business model is like when there's big news the eyeballs come in and you monetize those eyeballs with applebee's ads yeah it it's it's this is another like again like the how bizarre everything is too because like there's capitalism is so entrenched in everything that even like the sanctions fall short from like the eu and the us because like you know for biden he's like fuck man i can't have gas prices go up and have like risk like increased inflation so we got to carve out like the energy sector isn't going to have sanctions in russia certain like like food things aren't going to happen because a lot of two you know the a lot of um especially like germany they were saying like

we cannot sanction like the energy sector. Like we're getting so much of our natural gas from Russia. And it's preventing like actual effective sanctions that might actually act as deterrence. But even then you see like other countries too, like Italy was saying like, can we also get luxury goods exempted from the sanctions? Because they're really good customers. And we're like, holy shit, guys. Like, what the fuck? But this is because I don't think there's even solutions to say, well, fine, if this is what we need to do to do it right, then we need to figure out a way to open up the coffers to keep prices controlled for people rather than being like well the way it works is if i sanction a bank then that doesn't help like traders who are trading like with like you know doing any kind of business with russia because even on the website it tells you how to get around the sanctions like right if you're doing business so it's just kind of like what everything is just so

intertwined in the end like we get this like very perverse, surreal version of like trying to solve a problem, but it's just made much more complicated. Also to your point, Erica, about like Applebee's knew what they were getting. Less than two years ago in the summer of 2020, CNN took heat for a tone deaf ad placement.

And again, it was Applebee's. They followed a report of the death of broadway star nick cordero after a prolonged battle with covid with a peppy ad for applebee's proudly announcing a return to dine-in service jeez so class yeah you know i think applebee's is probably the problem of of america and total i don't know that's. We were talking yesterday or we were talking on Friday's episode, actually, about how it's like our community center.

It's where everybody knows our name, knows I know everybody's names. Absolutely. Yeah. It's where I go to hang out with the little league team I coach, I guess. I think that's what happens

in that commercial. Yeah, the Super Bowl ad that they did where they just stole the Cheers team. Yeah, well, look, I know they're loving it because they're the name of McDonald's. Oh, yeah. Oh, Erica and I have the same brain. That's the second time we've said the same joke at the same time. No, but I feel like they, you you know when they look at the actual like metrics that are going on they're getting like almost like a thousand mentions a minute like on twitter and

shit uh like right after that yeah but who's going like yes it's mentions and i guess social media is like okay now i'm thinking and now i'm out but like who is actually watching that sitting there being like holy shit the world around me is falling apart we're still in a pandemic coming out of it but actually that cold beer at applebee's specifically like did look kind of good yeah like who's going yeah some really crass person is like they turn out like they're watching cnn and they go you know what i'm thinking boys a little bit of chicken fried all right let's go we're going to applebee's i think mostly for them you know the game they know that like advertising doesn't work in the traditional sense anymore so it's just all about brand awareness like that you're aware that it's still a thing you can go to and what better than

to be like yeah i don't know we'll be the face of uh the dystopian uh corporate world sure yeah but this is kind of the other side of the thing i was saying with like putin being as like at his happiest with like right now as he's you know on the front page of every newspaper in the world like these companies these like for private media companies are you know this is this is when they get all the coverage and i am admittedly like checking the new york times like every half hour on the half hour you know yeah because they have the ability to cover it um they have the the budget so it's like i mean in in some ways it's just like yeah yeah, that's how the world works. But it does feel like that there's a sort of feedback loop there where like everybody's getting what they want. When you go to war, everybody's excited.

Well, especially if you're in the ruling class. Absolutely. Because, you know, wars typically completely destabilize things and you can force people to accept like a lower living standard as a result of like the destruction. Like there's just so much of it that creates more opportunities for wealthy people to become wealthier, too. And I don't know, at the end of the day, you just think of like all of the regular people who have nothing to do with this actual power struggle who are forced to put their bodies on the line for you know for what yeah you touched on it too just like quickly before we move on it's just seeing it on tiktok seeing these soldiers being like oh i'm right here or they're like live or these reporters are like i'm here doing this and you're you're watching these videos that are getting millions and millions of views and likes and comments.

And it's sort of a weird, we've had Snapchat, we've had, you know, social media before. But this even with this constant like going live on Instagram, like seeing it in a way that we all consume media is just such a surreal experience. Yeah. And again, you like don't you see people in the comments like give them hell and you're like you're talking to like a like it's a picture of an 80 year old man who's trying to sign up for the army and it's not just like give them hell it's like what a fucking tragedy but i get though, like people start looking at this shit and it feels like we get so disconnected though too, from the reality of it while also being so close to it visually.

That's what I think is really kind of like the disorienting sensation of it all is like, you can see how it becomes gamified more than like in a, like a sports context where people are like, yeah, way to go. Like give them hell Ukraine, like show

putin like what's up but we're also completely detached from like absolute the absolute chaos that's actually there and the uncertainty that people face it's like yeah i don't know that's why it's a very very bizarre time to be having these things occur and we're all just so connected but then feel powerless at the same time yeah i do wonder like the the push has always been from the military military industrial complex the push has always been to carefully frame the realities of war right like and vietnam became unpopular because there was more press access although it was still very limited and mediated but i do wonder if just the more and more looks we get at it and the less and less they're mediated the that's assuming that

people aren't going in and manipulating the algorithm and making war look awesome or fun or whatever well even i mean i think just when you look at what hat what like the most widely shared clips over the past few days it seems like most if anything it's weakening people's appetite for armed conflict like i think aside from people feeling very passionately about like you know we were saying like you know you have to defend your home land like for sure you got to defend yourself but there's i don't know yeah yeah it's like we don't want war that the tennis star that that wrote no war on the camera when he just was yeah you know there's a lot of stuff and i think there's a lot of people in you know the russian streets protesting against the war which is not allowed over there and the amount of i i do feel like as much as we're so

divided on as a country and even with an issue like this, which to me, when I'm reading some of other tweets and stuff like that, I'm like, how's people fighting about wanting to wear masks in this country. But then there's Russian people out in the street protesting when they're not allowed to to say like no war. And it's just look at our realities. Like, yeah, right. Don't understand it. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Well, this is a class of cadets that doesn't roll miles and that's the latest generation of soldiers because they have been softened by ubisoft and other video games oh my god what are you gonna be at e3 this year Oh, my man, the gamer. You know, I'm just free associating. Yeah. Woo! Oh, my God. What, are you going to be at E3 this year? Holy shit. Yeah. He's like, yeah, totally.

Hell yeah, bro. I love E3. I said E3, man. I love that movie, man. Yeah, you know, I guess the Army has noticed an uptick of injuries during basic training. And according to one of the majors who's like sort of, you know, purview, it is to like look into this stuff. I guess the clinical coordinator in charge of medical readiness, Army Major John Mark Thibodeau, is basically saying like, these kids are coming in and they're just soft. They're sitting on their butts all day rather than work in the fields or in the mines. So their little Mario Kart bodies are just breaking under the stress of soldier school.

The way he describes what the exact problem is, and it sounds like a cartoon character, Army Major John Mark Thibodeau says, The Nintendo generation soldier skeleton is not toughened by activity prior to arrival, so some of them break more easily. Damn. What? Huh? Okay. I both, like, think that is wild and he is a cartoon character and also believe it.

Like, that, because, yeah, like, if you are not moving as much here i think that's true isn't it that like your bones yeah i don't i don't disagree i just i because i can only imagine i know what being sedentary has done to my body yeah i've also like thank the gods that uh when i was a kid it was about like going outside like i was just in the streets constantly but as i i think if video games were what they were like now when i was a kid i would probably be pretty sedentary thank god for only 16-bit graphics i guess but one of the the assistant chief of physical therapy at the like an army community hospital sort of talks about the kinds of injuries they see and they say quote we see injuries ranging from acute fractures and falls to tears in the ACL,

which is, first of all, getting injured in basic training isn't like a new phenomenon whatsoever. But I think they're just saying the frequency is increasing. They say there's muscle strains, stress fractures, with the overwhelming majority

of injuries related to overuse. And then the rest of this press release where the guy gets, you know, angry at the Nintendo generation, urges those people looking to join the army to do some basic fitness prep before you come to put your body on the line for Coca-Cola. Okay. No, we don't mean playing Wii Fit, Junior. Get off that PlayStation VR and do some lifting. But yeah, the funny thing is the army is

short on highly skilled recruits at the moment, so they've been really trying to court, in their words, the Nintendo bodies out there, the Gen Z kids who are into video games, but they've done it with very little success because they just spent millions of dollars platforming

enlisted service members to participate in esports tournaments and, like, do Twitch streams and shit. And then all the gamers are just, like, saw fucking right through it. They're like, dude, this is fucking nonsense. Get out of here with this crap. And they're like, fuck. They didn't think it was cool with the army guys. They didn't fall for it.

Picture an Arlie or whatever. Arlie Erme or whatever the guy from Full Metal Jacket like pulling off his backwards baseball cap and being like damn it

they didn't fall for it throwing his skateboard to the side damn it private pile oh yeah just hello fellow kids yeah

hello fellow kids in it you guys like dueling dude what damn it dude isn't that your grandpa yeah man i don't know what the fuck he's doing oh man but i mean yeah it's funny because i feel like they're the pentagon is kind of like they're stuck with their ideas because that sounds like a thing you

do to young like like us or gen x would have fell for like the army esports people you know what i mean like early on if they're like you know just put because i had fucking ninja turtle like desert storm action figures you know what i mean so that was yeah that was that was peak desert storm really had a moment there where i was eating desert storm uh fighter jet gummies at that at that time really yeah yeah and it was like cool if you got the stealth bomber even though it was black which oh shit i remember that yeah because i remember actually yeah uh fruit snacks yeah yeah fighter jet fruit snacks i just remember thunder jets thunder jets yeah my friend who had all the cool shit like had those in his lunch like the day

the u.s invaded and yeah that's that's what that looked like here in in the u.s meanwhile i i'm assuming everywhere else in the world it looked a lot like what Russia going into Ukraine looks like. Yeah. And I mean, I think that's part and parcel of it, too. Right. You obscure what the actual cost is of a war. And you get kids to be like, it means Leonardo is dressed like a tank captain. Yeah.

And I ate a B-2 stealth bomber. And we give this overweight middle-aged general a name like he's a fucking nfl running back storming norman storming norman schwartzkopf cool man it's like that pepsi commercial yeah like a little kid's like storming norman yeah yeah they just sell the idea of war to like it basically Everything comes back to what you said. It's like capitalism. Look at everything. They make fruit snacks.

They make everything. And then I think that we would all be eating that if it weren't for video games. You know what I mean? Yeah. Video games are the worst. Hot take! Hot take! A lot of people don't remember but the sexiest man of the people sexiest man of

the year in the the year of desert storm was colin pal really no but you could believe it yeah i was like wow they're like how does he get that flat top so flat? Yeah. Yeah. All right, Army. Well, keep up the great work out there. Keep faith. Find a new angle, man. Find a new angle, Pentagon. Keep working on it. Let's try some good news.

It's been a while. Yeah. Let's try it on for size. There's gerrymandering maps are taking some Ls. Yeah. You know, now that this conflict, uh, or the, you know, Russian invasion of Ukraine is complete, there's nothing on the news except for this right now, which is wild to me. It's like round the clock, like military stuff. I'm like, okay, so we don't have to worry about voter suppression or, uh, you know, inequality or the pandemic anymore

because it's all this. OK, OK, cool. But right now, the GOP in Florida, Pennsylvania and North Carolina, yeah, they got a couple couple bumps in the road in their pursuit of wildly shaped gerrymandered maps. Again, the process where boundaries of voting districts are manipulated in order to gain an advantage. So in this instance, a lot of Republican-controlled state houses have basically been able to do whatever they want in terms of making their

own maps because they have the votes to approve everything, unless someone brings up, you know, like, maybe we should have the court take a look at this. And this happened in Pennsylvania and North Carolina, where the Supreme Courts of their respective states were like, oh, oh, these maps are a little tainted, friend. Let's go for something slightly easier. Although in North Carolina, I think Democrats felt that the way the map that the court favored still kind of put them at a slight disadvantage. Either way, it wasn't close to being like the terribly gerrymandered map, I guess, for what that's worth. But in Florida, Ron DeSantis had it the worst, sadly, because he got involved with the process of making the maps like that, like Florida is completely Republican controlled. So the state house and Senate were

doing their thing. They already had maps. They're like, these are going to work. They can't really get challenged in court. Like we're just, we're doing it just right. Giving ourselves a little bit, a bit of an advantage. And we'll make sure we keep the state red. Dude, this guy comes in. He's like, no, I'm making my own map. They're like, what the fuck?

He's like, yeah, yeah, we can go back. We can do better than this. he's like yeah yeah we can go back we can do better than this what if we deleted two democrat seats and added two republican seats because i'm going to split up this 46 black district the fifth district and chop them up into a bunch of little red districts and again everyone in his party were like you don't need to do this man man. We did it enough. We got this. It's just legal enough and just rat fucked enough that it's the perfect balance. He just went a little bit too far. And the Supreme Court looked at that and they were like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

This is this. What you're proposing is not like they're like DeSantis was saying, like, can you review this proposed map and give a ruling on it? And they're like, no, we're not even going to look at this because I think on its face, everyone was like, this is in violation of like your own state laws on top of, you know, federal laws. Even the only way that they that that the GOP can like try to win. Right. Just when you look at the popular vote, it's it's going to be like the republicans haven't won it like they won it once in the last 30 years or something like that so it's like they would lose every election so it's it's just it's like almost comical to me that number one all the republicans were like hey ron like we can't do this like even their turning against him is hilarious in itself and then the fact that they're like, well, we can't win this way,

but what if? Right. We just change everything. It's also such great bad boss behavior. Like it's exactly what a boss would do if he saw his employees like getting away with a crime is like come in and be like,

no, we should do it more. And out in the open, we should steal more money and be like no we should do it more and you're like out in the open we should steal more money and like try and take credit for it and just fuck everything up and then he's like dude why'd you guys screw me over exactly what motherfucker you came in dude fuck you what are you talking about we were perfectly fine fucking this map up on our own wow so yeah man maybe he's not the genius that everybody fears he is although that just sounds like a like he's a going to be a successful politician i mean he's brazen you give him that you know and i think that's that's really the only i think metric that sort of dictates your level of success in the modern republican party now

it's like yo like how out there with your nonsense are you? Because like if you can say that shit with a straight face, they're going to love you. Yeah, they are. All right. Let's talk crypto real quick. I have watched a couple of the rebuttal videos and line goes up video. I haven't seen anything that really changed my opinion. Like really on what like overall

what is your opinion that it's like you know it's basically a clone of capitalism and the rich or very lucky like few get very rich off of it and a lot of other people are getting

screwed and it's also bad for the environment or like darren fox if you see about that no what happened on the kings no i know darren fox no he dropped like an nft dude and it was like like worth a million point six or something and then he took down the nft website and he said he's pulling the plug so he just ran off with people's money yeah i mean that's so that's why it's like a less regulated capitalism right which is like yeah on in some cases you know i i see the appeal of that idea but i in other cases like some of those regulations were there for a purpose in the first place. But anyways, I wanted to get back to a thing a lot of people were talking about after the Super Bowl was celebrities shilling for crypto. Obviously, the Larry David commercial was the big one.

We learned it took apparently six weeks of negotiations to get him to sign on to to say that he wasn't on board with it. But be like the butt of the joke. But in terms of like a lot of these celebrities, like your Matt Damon, critics are calling it a moral disaster because celebrities are urging regular people to take financial risks when, you know, 98% of NFTs are going to go bust in the next couple of years. And meanwhile, you know, celebrities will either have gotten out by that point or they will be able to absorb it, you know. Or they just did it for a fee up front. They're like, dude, I don't need to get involved. Like, yeah, what do you want me to do? Want me to do an for a fee up front. They're like, dude, I need to get involved. Like, yeah, absolutely. What do you want me to do?

Want me to do an ad for this? Fine. Sure. Like, you want any of this? I'm like, no, I just want the million bucks. I'm good. Right. You know, and I think that's what they don't understand, too, is like they think they're

just sort of endorsing a product rather than like normalizing a very risky casino. Right. Yeah, exactly. So this is already happening. Kim Kardashian and Floyd Mayweather, Mayweather, as my uncle from Chicago calls him, Mayweather, are currently being sued in a class action lawsuit for promoting a cryptocurrency on social media

that lost around 97% of its value since early June. And like, but it because like that, that is typically what's described as a pump and dump scheme. But because it's NFTs, like you can get away with a little bit more, there's less precedent. Brie Larson debuted her new NFT avatar on Twitter with Gwyneth Paltrow, Reese Witherspoon and Eva Longoria, all unveiling NFT avatars from the same company on that same day. And it wasn't labeled as such, but it was clearly, like, part of a coordinated promotional effort. You know, so, like, there are rules around celebrity endorsements

on most products, but with this, it's just a little blurrier. So the FTC has rules that say that a celebrity has to disclose promotions on social media. So they basically have to say, this is a promotional thing, or I got this as part of a promotion when they're talking about a product. But because cryptocurrency is very public and allows anyone to airdrop items into someone's wallet, these companies could easily and frequently just airdrop gifts to celebrities without, you know, there being a clear payment. Actually buying them, too.

Right, right. Yeah, exactly. And, like, you know, so with a swag bag, which, like, if somebody gets something as a piece of swag and they're posting on social media, the FTC says they're supposed to like disclose that that was a promotional thing. The you know, those products are not going to go up 100 X in value the way an NFT can and then like lose all the value so it's like it's like a much more effective like prospect for a celebrity i guess is like you because it's so volatile like the volatility

is built in like these are just like basically little slot machines and then like you give the celebrity a chance to get really rich really quickly and i don't know i feel like the more famous you get for the most part unless you are constantly fighting against it you are spending more of your time talking to people who manage your money than you're talking to like real people yeah like normal people right who aren't millionaires like probably someone who's like and as your accountant whose bested interest is to make you richer right i'm gonna say do this yeah yeah yeah yeah so well you know again uh zeitcoin our uh our crypto is going live uh next week so get in on that y'all this is the good one the artwork has been great from people designing zeitcoin oh yeah we got so many kids so many to the point i'm like i guess

do we just make a crypto now the joke has gone so far yeah i mean it's all the same thing you know what i mean you just might as well might as well get in on it like do i sound like a crypto bro i'm like well listen you it's you know it's similar to um what happened like the late the late internet boom in the 90s like the dot-com bubble like once it burst then it's similar to what happened, like the late internet boom in the 90s, like the dot-com bubble. Like once it burst, then it's going to start over. Yeah, right. And trust me, that's when you want to get in on it. A lot of people.

What are you talking about? I have no idea. When the evangelists are the ones being like, this is like getting a pets.com domain, like email domain. Stamps.com, man. Remember that from Entourage? Remember? Like Ari's ex-wife's new husband? Wasn't that like in Entourage? Ari's ex-wife's new husband created

stamps.com or had the domain name. And he's like, fuck! I'm so rich because he had stamps.com. This is totally off topic, but I was trying to make a website for myself and content.

And so I went to ericatamposi.com and it was a full blown porn site because someone had bought the domain and they do this, I guess, to people. So that way I'm literally going to pay whatever to get that domain back because people are typing it. But I'm like, who do you think I am? Like, I'm not going to pay you for them. Like, put it up. Like, that's not me. Like, I don't care. am? I'm not going to pay you for that. Put it up. That's not me. I don't care. They eventually dropped the thing.

Now it's just a not-domainable thing. Because that's a word. Not-domainable. Yeah, we all speak interweb here. Right. Absolutely. It's an NFT now. I'm not going to pay you money for this domain, but that's also kind of smart.

So here's my moral dilemma. Should I start buying people's domains, like their names, and then they have to pay me for it? Is that smarter than getting in on NFTs? I mean, yeah. If you can predict up-and-coming stars, that's really a big gamble.

It's like hit or miss. I spend a ton of money on domains of people that like went viral once and oh yeah my my my dad lost all his money buying jonathanlipnicky.com for like 300 grand damn he's never recovered so i don't know i'll say from my perspective i would just yeah i don't know etsy store maybe That was just a couple days ago that your dad bought that. So we could see a bounce back from Lipnick. He was just saying, he's like, everything comes around full circle. Jerry Maguire's going to come back. Everybody's going to be like, who's that little boy in Jerry Maguire who said bees and dogs can smell?

I mean, everybody remembers this kid. Right. remembers this kid right but the idea that it's because i have heard it compared to like the dot com bubble by advocates and be like yeah no not everything's perfect at first but like amazon had a thing you know back then and if you had just stuck with amazon but there were like millions of things just like there's millions of nfts and fucking cryptocurrencies and all this shit like the fact that there are now like four survivors that are like billion billionaires doesn't exactly like upturn the idea that this is just like a really shitty like massive scale casino but can't you see it though actually being like a massive thing in the ticketing event industry or like digital ID cards or like

cards and like storing medical records. Like I think like and then this is just me like getting deep into people like arguing about it, like online when you start reading about it. It's like the proof of concept is there. But that doesn't mean I think that people should be buying into it now. Kind of. Yeah. I mean, the problem is because it's the regulations are so loose

that people can do it like people can just act in their own self-interest at the expense of other people. And it's not quite the thing that it feels like. But yeah, I think that's why I don't argue with the fact of the potential of it. But as it stands and like the people who stand to profit from it and the way it is structured, it's already turning into a thing that isn't as pure or, you know, utopian as like you'd hope, you know, and I think that's why there are a lot of people say, well, this one's an exception and this one's an exception. And that very well may be. But as a whole, there's just a broader movement of like wealthy people who are trying to normalize this quasi investment to really just, you know, bring more people down line, as they say.

Did you guys see the Super Bowl commercial of like just the QR code bouncing around for a minute? Yep. I saw it after the fact. But yeah, yeah. I will not be commenting on whether I opened that link or not. At this time, my people have told me not to comment on that. Okay.

All right. I did it after the fact because I knew what it was. Right, right, right. You know, I didn't get to see any of the Super Bowl ads because I was there, humble brag. But when I came back and I watched the game again just so I could watch the commercials, you know, first world problems, I was like,

oh, but I didn't get to see all the commercials. Like, this sucks but then i'd seen the articles about how like the site crashed and all this kind of stuff which is like a scary thought in itself but i still was like well i want to try right and a lot of people were like hey don't just fucking scan random qr codes like right that's how you can like you can end up uh getting like your information taken like that if you're not careful. And you're like, oh, right, right, right, right. I knew that.

I spent most of my day just going around looking for QR codes, scanning them, and then clicking the link and saying, whee, as I do so. Oh, cool. Bad gateway error. Cool. This guy's pretty popular. Erica, such a pleasure having you on TDZ. Thank you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

Just at Erica Tamposi. Do a lot of stuff. I'm really glad you guys had me on for this episode. It was such a softball compared to a few episodes ago where you guys were talking 90s TV shows. So I appreciate it a lot. It was really great. Hey, you never know. Reality throws off speed pitches sometimes, like Tim Wakefield, you know? Yeah, right.

But, yeah, no, just Twitter, Instagram at Erica Tamposi. It was awesome hanging out with you guys. Yeah, yeah. Hey, if we can get a handle on the news cycle, we'll be like, all right, get Erica in here. Exactly. I lost on the weakest link because I didn't know what Google was. I said Bing. So that's the girl you had on to talk

about, you know, the invasion in Ukraine today. Wait, really? Yes, really. All right. Sorry, you have to tell that story now. So I went on The Weakest Link. It was over the pandemic. Like a casting director hit me up

and they're like, Erica, like come on The Weakest Link. And I was like, oh, trivia. Like I'm going to kill at this. I get all the way to the final two and then it's sudden death. So it's between the two of us. And it was me and this kid who was like a screw salesman, like nuts and bolts, like legitimate

screw salesman. And like, I'm not one to point at someone's intelligence, but this kid was like literally a nut and bolt. Like we had nothing there. Like every question he got wrong, I knew the answer to. And at one point they came to me and they were like 1978. And I was like, that's really early. And I don't even remember. But then they said, Sergei, which I should have known was Google, but I thought it was a trick question. And so I said, Bing, and I got it wrong. And my friends have never let me live it down. And I lost $54,000 and it went to the screw salesman. And I think about it every single day. Wow. I mean, my instinct, that guy probably needs the money.

Screw sales, not great. I always keep track of how screws are selling. Yeah, that's true. He may have gone, well, yeah, he's upside down on a big screw buy. He did. They were saying 1978. So the person was born in 1978 who found it? i don't even remember the actual question i blacked out because it was really stressful with jane lynch looking right into your soul being like and we like did sudden death and she was like this is the worst

weakest link we've ever had in in america and i'm like well it's the first season of the reboot so give it time but right yeah it was i don't remember it's actually on um nbc or peacock i think it was episode six so if you guys are interested in watching me fail miserably uh you can go there i mean it's a great bit to like have oh it all riding on something where the answer is very clearly google and answering ding because i don't know i think yeah i don know. I don't know if we'll get sued, but I have 1998 Stanford grad students, Sergey Brin and Larry page launched. What revolutionary internet search engine thing? The correct answer is Google.

Like, how do you do that? Erica. Oh my God. Can you imagine? Like I live with miles. How did you do that erica oh my god can you imagine like i live with miles how did you do that why did you how did you find that so fast i'm really good at using bing just like you just googled you you you banged the dumbest contestant ever i said i said dumbest bing answer weakest link yeah i was like i was like I should have asked Jeeves. I should have studied up before I went on the show.

I would have. I can't believe I lost that. I can't believe that. I'm so sorry. All your listeners had to hear that. No, I mean, but it was important. That's great. That is wonderful.

Thank you so much for sharing that with us. This episode was infuriating, sis. One of the comments. Yeah. Yeah. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? I mean, I love this question. I don't know how familiar you guys are in the sports world, which is sort of where I'm kind of in the comedy world with Jessalyn, but also mainly sports with NFL network. If you're not following or reading Mina Kimes tweet,

she is the most brilliant, hilarious, like she's smarter than any football player that has played the game, not played the game. Like I think she is one of the top analysts out there. And especially because she's a woman, but she like drags people that come after her like she'll be trending because some football player will tell her like she's never played the game and she's just way smarter than anyone i've ever met and and a great person and i love her to death and just watching her destroy people in like a way smarter way that you could ever find on bing is awesome. Miles, where can people find you?

What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also the other show, 420 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexandra, where, you know, we talk about 90 Day Fiance. I love that show. Oh, check it out. Check it out. Some tweets I like. This is from New York Times pitch bot at Doug J. Balloon tweeted sources close to Jared and Ivanka said that privately the couple opposes the invasion of Ukraine.

I was like, brave, very brave, very brave. And then Kaylee Miracle or Keely Miracle, K-E-Y-L-E-E, tweeted, to me, the biggest airport flex is not carrying anything but my purse. That's luxury to me. And I feel I felt that because whenever I'm at an airport and I see somebody with nothing in their hands get on a plane, I'm like, I'm sorry. Are you are you so rich? Who are you you and what do you do the entire flight you just look at the back though you just just like if the if whatever entertainment system they have is out you're fucked nine out of ten you got a cell phone you got a phone i mean i either yeah i guess i don't know maybe that's like another thing we gotta keep like what do they do do they can they just sit there in silence and Mm, mm, mm, mm.

No. A lot of care in the world. I envy that. Yeah. A tweet I've been enjoying is from Blair Saki. He tweeted, I love your loud car. You seem super sane. And I've thought about that multiple times since.

Have I shouted that one out already? Maybe. I don't know. We talk about loud cars all the time because maybe i don't know we're talking about loud cars all the time because we're old but they're just too loud i think they're making them louder you said uh all right if i did fuck it doubled up doubled up because it's so good and i've thought about it so often and then uh another one from catholic dad420 tweeted, I try to be kind to my elders because anyone born before 1990 has survived a historical shift that is absolutely brain-melting.

And I just ask our listeners to keep that in mind. I was born way before 1990. And just trying to keep up here, folks. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,

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