The Daily Zeitgeist - QA-gone, PREPLANNED Vacay 7.23.20

Episode Date: July 23, 2020

In episode 678, Jack and Miles are joined by the Forgotten: Women of Juárez's co-host Mónica Ortiz Uribe to discuss the Republicans lack of a Covid-19 bill, Twitter banning QAnon, Trump sending Ghislaine Maxwell his best wishes, Tucker Carlson's many issues, and more!FOOTNOTES: 'What in the hell are we doing?' Senate Republicans clash over coronavirus relief The Hill's Morning Report - Presented by Facebook - Dems to GOP: Where is your COVID-19 bill? Twitter Is Finally Going After QAnon Trump says he wishes accused sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell well and has 'met her numerous times' Tucker Carlson's top writer resigns after secretly posting racist and sexist remarks in online forum Tucker Carlson Attacks “Ghouls” Over Fired Fox News Writer Blake Neff’s “Wrong” Racist Online Posts, Announces Vacation Tucker Carlson to Take ‘Long-Planned’ Vacation After Writer’s Resignation Tucker’s Got Real Scandals, So He Keeps Inventing Imaginary Enemies Fox News, Ed Henry, Sean Hannity & Tucker Carlson Sued In Sex Trafficking, Sexual Harassment & Retaliation Suit Tucker Carlson claimed the New York Times planned to expose his address. Then his fans doxed the reporter. WATCH: Daringer - Gold 97s Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Get out of here. Fuck Ben Shapiro and whatever him and Barry Weiss and Andrew, whatever from that other site are all leaving to go do together. I'm sure. Uh, it's Thursday, July 23rd, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien.

AKA there's this guy, O'Brien and his first name's Jack. Oh, Brian's name, Jack on the boulevard. Uh, that is courtesy of my brain, uh, just now.

Uh, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! No, we're never gonna survive unless we stop being babies. All we gotta do is stay inside, but no, we're stupid babies. Ba-ba, ba-ba! Oh, that's one of my favorite parts of the song. But no, we're stupid babies. Oh, that's one of my favorite parts of the song. Shout out to the one and only Christy Yamaguchi-Main for that seal inspired AK. He dug that one up. He retweeted it from June 29th.

He's like, I cannot let this rot on the vine i mean because that is the that is the detail that has kind of stuck with us the thing that america cannot get over is being babies we we just refuse to yeah you can't tell me what to do dad you can't tell me what to do but also i will rely on everyone else to do everything for me but i am not a baby right so well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant and talented monica ortiz ribe buenos dias buenas tardes hola a todos that's hello to everyone um i i'm i'm here uh in my hometown of el paso, Texas, on the U.S.-Mexico border, where the official language is Spanglish.

Yeah. Oh, no. All right. Thank you for coming on. Yeah. We were talking before we started recording that you don't usually come on such second rate shows where people are just spouting off at the mouth. You are an actual journalist.

So we aren't going to put your career or your integrity at risk. I know it's a risk for you to even be on a second-rate podcast like this, but Oz made it through and had a good time. For people who don't know, you and Oz host the Forgotten Women of Juarez podcast together. So for those of you who are like, what's with these smart people coming through all of a sudden?

We know some intelligent people that we'd like to engage in conversation from time to time. Yeah, I hope we're not cramping your style coming in. No. We were saying the other day, like when Oz was speaking, I was just like, man, keep going. Please, sir. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just didn't you host our podcast?

My dear co-host. He does absorb quite a bit of, it's impressive the amount of information he absorbs in his brain and then is able to talk it out pretty eloquently. Yeah, yeah. Well, you guys are making, made an amazing show

and we can talk about that a little bit in a moment. First, let's tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today the republican party has uh really no plan to speak of uh they're enjoying the infighting uh so we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about q q is uh getting banned from twitter uh but as we know where they go one they go all so uh we'll we'll see they will all go to slack exactly um but yeah that like i can't avoid like q is just everywhere now like i i was talking about uh a doctor who went to medical school with uh someone i know who uh is now like fully on on the q train and just posting non-stop about it tim heidecker had to like go do an emergency two-hour episode to defend himself against Q accusations

because they think he and Will Ferrell have a child-eating ring or something. Anyway, we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the president's first corona briefing since he told people to inject bleach into their lungs. And he made it through mostly unscathed except when he said gillian uh jizz lane

is gillian gillian gillian gillian that uh yeah that it was almost a flawless briefing yeah i mean flawless comparatively uh but yeah but then he never he never well actually not he never disappoints he always disappoints. He always disappoints. Right. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Tucker Carlson, all of that, plenty more. But first, Monica, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

Well, it must have been two nights ago that I Googled mezcal old-fashioned. Yes, yes, yes. You think of old fashions as dark in color, made out of bourbon. This was a clear, lovely old-fashioned that, you know, as you mentioned, my co-host and I are doing this podcast, and's some heavy stuff so you got to find a way to take the edge off every day in fact I'm thinking now I should have started off the day with one of these mezcalos it might might help me loosen up for this this show yeah is that so basically everything the same but just mezcal I think I've had one but rather than like angus like the regular bitters it had mole bitters that was like taking it to the next level. But I think that was like a special thing where people were making it themselves to really honor the drink. I have not even gone that far. You are a step ahead of me.

That's just me thinking of like back, you know, back when bars and restaurants and patronizing businesses was a regular occurrence. I heard tell of this mezcal old-fashioned. Yeah, well, I've got, there's a friend of a friend of mine who is a tequila distiller. He's got a fabulous restaurant up in Philly called Tequilas, of all things. And he goes and he finds these old-school

artisanal distillers in Mexico, in Jalisco, in the lowlands and the highlands, which is where tequila comes from. And he puts out these fantastic mezcals and tequilas. So I'm a big fan. His name is David Sudo. Shout out to David and tequilas. Hit that up, Philly's egg gang. When the pandemic began, I made sure that I was well-stocked with David Sudo goods in my locker. Oh, okay. So is that your main beverage of choice? You like a mezcal cocktail or tequila drink typically?

Absolutely, absolutely. Although, you know, with the finer mezcals and tequilas, they really ought to be sipped clean, not shot. As you see, you're not down like Cancun, spring breakers. No, no, no, no, no. You take this in a little sifter glass and you just sip on it slowly and you enjoy the very complex and smooth flavors that come with that. That are supposed to come with a tequila, a good tequila. smooth flavors that come with that that are supposed to come with a tequila um a good tequila so i'm always sad when people when i offer people tequila and they kind of wince because they had a

bad experience back in college right and you know it shouldn't be that way with tequila it's it's like the same thing i mean i don't want to compare the two but like psychedelic drugs most people like i can't do that man it's because most of the time you went too far with it or like with tequila mezcal you're drinking it too fast and too intensely take it slow take it easy and you know go let it take you where it needs to because i think that was when i really got into it is when someone scolded me for like even drinking on ice and i was like oh but i'm sitting there like no no no like you have to enjoy like this is a real spirit like you need to enjoy and then when i was i learned i was like okay i now i respect them when it comes to your drug of choice know where it come from know where it comes

from and get the high quality stuff yeah that's just good advice yeah in general what is uh what's something you think is underrated underrated well you know, again, trying to start with the lighter stuff. I prefer to start off with what's overrated. Okay, let's do that. You have to talk about things, right? Yeah, yeah. So, you know, something that I think is overrated, maybe this is a little controversial, right? But I would say sharing a bed with your spouse on a nightly basis.

When you say something like that, automatically your thought is like, what's wrong? What's going on there? You guys doing okay? Trouble in paradise? Yes, yes, yes. Which is the thing I like to say to couples all the time. I say no, no, no, no, no. Totally on the contrary.

You know, having your own space and being able to say look amor i love you very much but i also need really need a good night's sleep and you know i'm gonna take it as you know maybe one of you is a night owl and the other one is a morning person or maybe one of you wakes up in the middle of the night and has some brilliant idea has to turn on the lights and you know jot it down oh i wish i was someone like that. Yeah, I keep waiting for that to happen. I was like, that's only in movies, Monica. Yeah, it's yet to happen to me.

But, yeah, no, I think it's, and this is something I want to talk about a little, hopefully, in the show is these gender roles that we play and how we can redefine them. And, you know, it's nice to have on a daily basis your own, you know, I'm going to take a step further and not just say, you know, you should have your own bed, but you should have your own bedroom if, you know, if you can, if you're not living in New York or San Francisco where you can barely afford a studio. Yeah, your own space, right?

Yeah. Yeah. You have your own, it's, you know, it's Yeah, your own space, right? Yeah. Yeah, you have your own. It's about having your own space, having some independence. And yeah, I think that strengthens you as a person and it strengthens you in a relationship and you have a better night's sleep.

And that doesn't mean you can't have sleepovers and visit and such. So it makes it a lot more fun. Yeah. Yeah, the bed i totally understand because uh you know my partner her majesty she likes to have pets in the bed and i'm like i don't like to inconvenience people so i sleep very like in a very thin sliver of the bed because i don't want to wake her up then i'm like i don't want to i don't want to wake want to wake my pets up. I don't know why I'm going. I thought you were going to say that you sleep in

the dog crate. I'm working on my crate training right now. But, uh, yeah, like, so I, from that point I realized too, I'm like, you know what, I'm going to sleep somewhere else because that way, like you can get down and I don't have to feel bad about not disturbing anyone and get my own night's sleep. Because I think everyone has different sleep styles. I sleep next to a sprawler. And I'm very much like the, it's just so weird. Like, I don't advocate for my own sleep when I'm in bed. Because I'm like, but the other person's sleep.

And then you got to take care of yourself. Even that means getting away to another bed for a little bit. A good night's sleep is crucial it'll make everybody happier give it a try my two year old was up at two in the morning until four in the morning this morning so I did not get a good night's sleep

and I've witnessed my brain malfunctioning like I'll see the wrong word coming out of my mouth as I'm, as I'm speaking. So I, yeah, just a fair word of warning there that I'm about to show you the value of a good night's sleep.

Oh boy. Playing musical beds is also is also an option. Yeah, right. Especially when you've got kids. What is something you think is underrated? Okay, something I think is underrated are immigrants. Coming from the U.S.-Mexico border, we have, I mean, you know, almost everyone here has close ties to their immigrant roots. And, I mean, immigrants often play the role as scapegoats for all the problems. You know, pick a problem and it's, you know, an immigrant has been scapegoated for that problem. When, you know, in reality, they are among the essential workers who the foundation of our society is built on.

I mean, they're picking our crops, our food, they're slaughtering and packaging our meat, they're making our hotel beds, washing our dishes, they're doctors, nurses, entrepreneurs. I mean, the guy who invented Flaming Hot Cheetos started off as a janitor, I think, at Frito-Lay. And now he's this big shot executive in the company. And he's the son of Mexican immigrants. And there's so many other examples. I mean, Albert Einstein was an immigrant. Yeah.

Isn't there going to be a Hot Cheeto yeah isn't there gonna be a hot cheeto though isn't there a like a movie about him coming out at some point yes yes yes yeah i don't know i don't know what's the status of it but uh yeah right it's like evil on gory i feel like was it was gonna direct because we talked about it on the show and i think that was when we first or i had first understood the origin of hot cheetos yeah he like was a tinkerer and he had like a shed in the back like all these things that are you know straight out of a movie are is like the the origin story of flaming hot cheetos yeah he's the classic rags to riches yeah story so i'm not surprised he's making a movie i'm curious like, like with your perspective, being in Texas and understanding like Mexican-American culture from the Texan point of view.

You know, I think a lot of times, especially right now, we see a lot of minorities being deployed as tokens to try and like buttress the Republican or conservative viewpoint. We're like, look at these people that are here that support us. And I'm curious, like every community, whether that's, you know, I'm black and Asian, whether I see black people at rallies and Asian people, there's obviously levels of internalized racism and white supremacy that people deal with. And is there is like, what's sort of the makeup in terms of how a lot of Mexican Americans in Texas sort sort of look at like what it means to be American and how that plays into conservative politics, etc. Well, it's a sticky situation. It's a messy situation in that even as Hispanics, Mexican-Americans, our opinions will run the gamut. our opinions will run the gamut. And there is absolutely racism, you know, amongst us.

There are things that my grandfather has told me that I will not repeat, but that really blew me away to think, how can you come from a marginalized community yourself and then speak this way of others? You know, a lot of the Border Patrol agents, the majority, there's a large majority who are Hispanic. And I think it just happens to be that once you get multiple generations away from the original immigrants, you start to feel comfortable and entitled and you forget your roots and you maybe turn against them. I have relatives who vote conservatively, who voted for Donald Trump. And I have others who wouldn't dream of that.

Right. It runs the gamut. Yeah, I think it's essentially the same experience no matter what for any person coming from this country from another place that, yeah, there's this first, you know, deep desire to integrate and to be accepted. And then at a certain point, yeah, things can get away from you and whether or not you're able to sort of see where your roots are and the path you've taken and how that relates to other people. You know, I think, yeah, it definitely varies. And one of the things that hurts the most coming from, you know, having roots in another country is that often your culture and your traditions and especially your foods are welcomed and embraced, but you yourself are not. are welcomed and embraced, but you yourself are not. And that's one among many hypocrisies that we experience in the United States. Okay. And one last, because we've had people who come on and they stand firmly behind the cuisine of Tex-Mex.

Don't even get me started on that. I got to get you started. I got to get you started. We have to get you started. We got to go there. I love getting, because I love food. I love Mexican food and I love people

who are passionate about food, like their regional food. So just tell me, tell me why it's better than what I'm eating. Wait, wait, why? What is better than what you're... I'm just saying, okay,

like sometimes we've had guests come on from Texas and they say... I'm just saying, okay, because sometimes we've had guests come on from Texas, and they say, I love the food in LA, but I'm sorry in Texas that Mexican food is better. Now, understand, it's different. You can't really one-to-one compare, but I guess for you personally, just open my eyes because I'm so bored, stuck in my house. I just want to envision the Tex-Mex fantasy meal. Mouthwatering Mexican food.

Well, I have to say there is a huge difference between Tex-Mex, stuck in my house i just want to envision the tex-mex mouthwatering mexican food well i have to say there is a huge difference between tex-mex which i absolutely wince at makes me shiver with a couple exceptions sopapillas and fajitas being probably the two exceptions those are tex-mex but tradition but but typically i abhor i i dislike strongly um te Tex-Mex food. They have this yellow-white cheese blend that I do not comprehend. That's one of my four main food groups, the yellow-white cheese mix. The yellow-white cheese mix. Cut it out, man.

Cut it out. There's better stuff out there. I put it on my cereal in the morning. If I go to El Paso, like what do I need to eat? Oh, well, you got to go into the, on Texas Avenue, pretty, not too far from the border.

There's a place called Café Mayapan, which just reopened since the pandemic. So I'm very excited to go get takeout and get my requisite frijoles refritos, refried beans and fideo. They make the best fideo. They make great enchiladas. You know, it really depends.

And it's all, it's this, it's run by a woman's co-op. You know, a while back, a lot of women who were working in fabric, in the fabric industry, they worked in textile factories. And so they formed this women's collective that still exists today. And, you know, they used to have shops and such. But the longest surviving component of this co-op is this restaurant. And it's like going into your grandma's kitchen. It's fantastic. I would steer you there. I'm like starting to do this thing where I watch YouTube videos of like people cooking in other countries and they eat like my like noodles or something just to kind of keep it exciting right it's like a vr experience where you're eating well with the goggles on

i should i would not be doing my due diligence if i didn't mention elemi in downtown el paso which is making they have the most unique Mexican food in El Paso in that it's more like central and southern Mexican food, the kinds of tacos that they have. They were featured on this, ¿cómo se dice? Hulu show, Taste the Nation, I think it's called. They're featured in one of the episodes, so you should check them out there. And they also carry David Sudo's tequila.

So you can't go wrong. Wow. Yeah. One stop, one stop. There you go. Once we get a vaccine, come on down to El Paso and I'll give you the primo tour. Sounds amazing.

Love nothing more. Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa? Okay. Well, a myth that I would bust is happily is that machismo only exists in Mexico or in Latin America. BS. Machismo exists everywhere, including in the United States. And the sooner we recognize it, you know, the sooner we can work against it. How would you define machismo for people who aren't familiar with the term? Because

I look at it just like this form of masculinity that ends up causing problems. Correct. Yes, yes, yes. No, no, no. Toxic masculinity. Exactly, exactly. It's a form of masculinity, of expressing masculinity that denigrates and hurts women. And that is based on just this unrealistic expectation of just toughness and separation from one's emotions. And I could go on and on. But, you know, you just have to sit through, I mean, just the, uh, a couple of Supreme court hearings, um, to understand it, it, it exists or not, not, not hearings. Um, como se dice, eh, this is, this is where I forget the, the, the English words, but the confirmation, the confirmation hearings. Yeah. yeah oh my god when i reached adulthood i had to

like realize that i had been so steeped in toxic masculinity that there was like i did not give myself permission to even feel things like without without getting drunk like i had to like be just completely separate from my emotions because that's just— And it's terrible. It does a disservice to men because when you're hit with some grief— To me and to everyone around me. Yeah, yeah. When you're hit with some kind of tragedy or grief, you don't know how to handle it.

And if you don't know how to process your emotions, they're going to end up destroying you. They're going to have a very destructive outcome. And I want to say, Jack, that I don't know if it, yeah, it's probably you, Jack. I hadn't done my due diligence researching your show yet when your producer said, oh, there was some schedule reshuffling, right? Because of childcare. And like she was telling me, oh, our host needs to get some child care. And I thought, my thought immediately that the host is female. I thought that was my first thought. And so, you know, just to, you know, even machismo doesn't have to come from a man.

It's just these presuppositions that we have that we need to break out of. Yeah. Totally. presuppositions that we have that we need to break out of yeah it seems like you know like in is is that softening a bit like outside of the u.s in your opinion i think like as generations move on and progress is that fading or is it still kind of a very because i know like very much there are people and like i have friends who are very conscious of how they're trying to raise their kids to sort of not be in this gender normative construct of how to be or what you can do or say or where or whatever and just be like, yo, just live. But I know that's one part of the spectrum. I'm curious what that is

like because I know you're looking at it like this is a problem and many people say it's a problem, but how is that evolution happening? I think it ebbs and flows no matter where you are. evolution happening? I think it ebbs and flows no matter where you are. Anytime that, and this is anytime any group pushes for change, whether it's workers or women, anytime that there's a push for change to alter the power, the existing power structure, there's going to be some pushback and some backlash. And that happens to women, you know, no matter where they are, including in the U.S., and it's certainly, you can see it in Mexico. And I was having this very conversation just yesterday with a professor at UC Santa Barbara. Her name is Alison Brisk. And she brought this to my attention, right? That a certain power structure exists in different forms, including between men and women. And then when one

tries to upset that balance, there's this backlash. So much anger, to the point of yeah there being crimes and voting for donald trump you know it's uh it can justify just about any horrifying decision right yeah no we we elected a man who who i mean who who spoke on tape about feeling he had the license to um to assault women yep because of because of his status. And this man is our president. All right. Well, let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we'll talk about his grand old party. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.

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the pandemic has completely messed everything up because of their inability to keep people safe right the so the cares act uh was helping americans out with an additional six hundred dollars a week on top of their uh state's unemployment benefits uh it also had the unfortunate effect of revealing how just grossly underpaid most workers are in the country because the republican talking point came out like well they're making more than they were on the job so so what are we gonna do like why should we do well we're gonna help them to the point where they don't want to work i mean it's again, this is yeah, there are clearly so many camps. exacerbate the pandemic by forcing people into this really morbid decision between their own safety and having to go out and work and create money and put food on the table and pay rent. So the infighting is just like, it's really, really interesting to see the stuff that even

Trump is saying is he says they're thinking about doing about 70% of the amount, like a reduction, They're thinking about doing about 70% of the amount, like a reduction, indicating that they're going to bring it down to only like $175 to $200 additional dollars a week. And he said, you know, the amount would be the same, but doing it a little bit smaller initial amounts so that people are going to want to go back to work as opposed to making so much money that they really don't have to. Right. I mean, I would hate for this country, for a sentiment to grow in this country where people's focus is just on making on as much money as possible and doing as little work as possible and allowing others to do that work for you. I'd hate for something like that to happen.

But I think that's just, that's where we're at right now. We're still under, we're still in the period where people are being covered by the $600. I think it's easy for us to lose sight of... I've been quarantining in my house for 13 days, not leaving even to take a walk or anything. But when I talk to people who are working at churches or working at like food

banks we're already like at depression levels of like people are waiting in line overnight to get food handouts and like not even the the food banks aren't don't have enough food for them. We're already there with the $600. We're at a crisis point. And it's just mind-boggling to me that there's even the thought that they won't be extending what is already pretty insufficient for keeping people fed and alive. It's just really interesting, even within the party, all the different takes. Rand Paul is butting heads with conservatives who want to extend the benefits in a humane fashion. He's like, whoa, wow. It's like, what's the difference between the left and the right anymore? It's like, you guys are socialists now.

And then you have other people saying like, well, I don't like it for the budget. Although, let's be clear, if you really cared about the budget, there was plenty of opportunities to address that with the bills you've signed into law. But they're like, but we do have to think about our re-election chances and we don't want people to get mad at us. And there's so many really morbid points of view when really there are people who are struggling and they need to be helped because that's the whole point of having a government, is it not? Isn't that why we have this social contract where we're like, yes, please tell us what to do and you protect the safety of the people who live here?

But that hasn't been happening for decades now. So I guess it just continues. You know, the social safety net in this country has been eroding for at least the last 30 to 40 years. And one of the things I find encouraging that's come out of the pandemic, which is, you know, it's hard to find what's encouraging. That's come out of the pandemic, which is, you know, it's hard to find what's encouraging. But this conversation that we're having about how about essential workers and what they're being paid. You know, you know, it's bad when Bloomberg magazine publishes a story that with the headline, how the American worker got flee Fleeced, and talks about how worker wages haven't kept pace with productivity. Noted socialist zine, Bloomberg. Is that Jacobin or what? Correct. Yeah, then you know things have gotten bad. You got to pay

attention. And yeah, they're just talking about how if the minimum wage had kept pace with productivity, it would be like $20 and 25 cents an hour. And we're nowhere near that. And if it went up, I think with CEO pay, it would be somewhere like in the $40 per hour range too, if you tied it to the exponential jumps in CEO pay. Yes, yes. The gap between the high earners and the low wage earners has just also become a chasm. It seems like workers, you know, workers when NAFTA was passed, you know, many American workers, certainly in the manufacturing industry, were rightly upset about it because a lot of those jobs went to Mexico. Indeed, in places like Juarez, Juarez, the backbone of its economy is manufacturing. manufacturing and these, you know, all these foreign, mainly American factories set up there. And, you know, they make the stuff that goes in our washing machines and our laptops, probably in the microphones we're using to record this podcast. And those workers,

they are earning less than $10 a day. Get this, not per hour, per day. You know, how do you survive on that? And here we are painting Mexico as, as the enemy. Um, whereas I'm more, the more I look into it, the more similarities I see between, um, how worker, how workers are losing out in the U S and how workers are, are losing out in Mexico. And it's like, you know, if they, they could, they could join forces could join forces because they are certainly, they can see themselves as allies because they're struggling with the same things. Absolutely. Losing government protection, union protection, poor wages that they can't live on. And there's tremendous violence that we see in Mexico, mainly, I mean, due to the drug trade. Mainly, I mean, due to the drug trade.

So one of the things I see in Juarez, poor Juarez, you know, because of its, it suffers because of its geography so close to the United States. This is a city that is, its purpose really, its economy is based on satisfying the demand, two primary American demands. The demand for cheap goods and the demand for illegal drugs. And it's created just this very toxic and dangerous environment in the city where, you know, it explains a lot of the violence there and why people are vulnerable to it, working these low-wage jobs. It leaves them largely unprotected. So I think about that when I think about, you know, how is it possible that unemployment is more, is worth more than your actual paycheck?

Yeah. And that's like all those things that have been exposed, you know, like I think many people with their eyes on any kind of activist space are interested in any kind of social justice equity. We've been talking about these things for a very, very long time. And now, like, yeah, to your point, I guess the other side of this sort of the pandemic that cuts in a way that is at least maybe making way for progress is, yeah, now more people are kind of like, oh, yeah, like the sentiment that sort of like, right, if the world is so bad and dangerous, yet some people have to continue to work, maybe that should actually pay in some way that is actually proportionate to how essential that need is for their labor. But I think that's where we hope to get more of that momentum to actually make these things laws because we can't count on any of these businesses themselves being like, you know what, we're just going to shrink our profit margins to do right by the worker because that's the antithesis of how businesses are run in this

country. But that does seem to be the supreme court going back to the supreme court uh their point of view seems to be that businesses have all the rights just give them all all the rights to make the important decisions in in the u.s uh and it's not we've been doing that for i mean yeah the case study is ongoing and the data is in front of us when the corporations are able to decide what's best for themselves. And I don't think it's going too well. So the Republicans haven't even started, just going back to them, they haven't even started talking to the Democrats because they're already fighting with each other about what they should do.

And the other thing that makes it tough is the White House is demanding that they strip funding for testing in this next bill and adding a payroll tax cut. Like it's all. OK, so strip the funding so he can completely obscure how bad the situation is in this country, because in his mind, you know, testing me. Well, then they're going to know how bad it is. And then the payroll tax cut is just your run of the mill. A shout out to the homies in the one percent. Right. Get you a little break on that payroll tax cut is just your run of the mill, hey, shout out to the homies in the 1%. Right. Let me get you a little break on that payroll tax.

That's right. Let's talk about another way that people are dealing with the hellish uncertainty that we currently exist in. And that is the emerging fringe religious slash political movement of QAnon. So we talked about how these movements can start off as laughable, and then as they evolve and gain momentum, the outcomes can be horrific. So the adherence to the QAnon conspiracy are, I mean, it's just spreading. Anecdotally, we've talked about people I know, but just also, you know, now it's acceptable for people in the halls of power in D.C. There's people running for office who aren't being, you know, laughed at. It's almost like it's the tea party movement where

it's like yeah yeah well that's a that's a perspective that people have and it happens to be one that is more sympathetic to my like really radically racist ideas so yeah come on in another thing is too there's even people in office who are like you know winking at q anon supporters for all who are already seated members of Congress, whether that's through retweets or going on someone's show. There's definitely like, I think there is a, they do have eyes on this too, as like maybe another group that can be, you know, converted into like, you know, your hardcore conservatives again. But it's just, it gets really, really dark. And for people who, you know, we talk conservatives again. But it's just, it gets really, really dark.

And for people who, you know, we talk about the conspiracy theory a lot, but just to reiterate, you know, that these people believe that there's an insider, like in DC, who is basically giving the followers little tidbits and hints about how the, yeah, how the deep state is planning to take down Donald Trump or white America, or there's so many other issues tied to this, or how like any potential COVID vaccine could be about mind control, that 5G has something to do with the coronavirus, that Black Lives Matter is a complete like illusion organization that was funded by George Soros. I mean, that's a, that's a belief held all over the political or the conservative idea

spectrum, but that's one that QAnon people especially are interested in. So it's just basically this really fucked up kaleidoscope that these people use to look at any given issue without seeing, you know, some other connection to the deep state or the suppression of, you know, the true patriots in this country. I mean, it's like a more militant verging on religious version of Trumpism. Trump is

the central figure. Q claims that Trump is secretly fighting this ring of pedophiles that is like Obama, the Clintons, all these famous people. Will Ferrell, Tim Heidecker are now implicated. The performance artist from The Artist is Present. All of these people who are somewhat critical of the president are implicated in this wild vast child eating like baby eating satanic conspiracy theory straight out of the 80s like this is you know if you ever watched any documentaries about like the 80s satanic panic or read about it this is basically that but tied to a worldview where donald trump is like the only uh right person in the government and it's also militant like they have killed people uh they had one of their followers showed up at Comet Pizza, the Comet Pizzeria, with an assault weapon. It's really scary stuff.

It all grows out of the Podesta email dump from WikiLeaks and reading into those emails. You look at the situation and there is such a thing where there seem to be powerful people in this world who are involved in sex trafficking and child abuse, which is interesting because there always sort of needs to be some element of truth to really be. It's not like out of fully thin air. There's always just there's just enough that keeps these people into it and the momentum builds. And I think that's why Twitter is intervening, because, yeah, we're seeing, you know, whether it was the guy with children in his car running away from the police begging the president to, like, save him, who was like very into these conspiracies or a woman who was on her way to, like, attack Joe Biden because of videos she had seen, it's becoming a problem. And they announced on Tuesday that they've removed thousands of

accounts associated with the conspiracy. And they said they're starting off with like, first, it was like about 7,000 accounts, but it's part of this larger, larger initiative on the social media platform to just scrub the content off. Because like we're saying, it bleeds into things like vaccines and like public health and these other, is this very, very dangerous, harmful ideas that people are taking on board and acting out in real life. And in addition to purging some of the accounts, they said they have like sort of a three main goals. One, quote, quote, no longer serve content and accounts associated with QAnon in trends and recommendations,

because you would see they would get trending a lot all the time. Uh, whether it was like Obama stuff, whoever, whether, you know, they said Hillary Clinton had already been executed, uh, and she had a body double walking around. Uh, the second thing is to work to ensure we're not highlighting this activity in search and conversations and three block urls associated with q anon from being shared on twitter and they say all in all they think 150 000 accounts will be affected uh when they fully start putting this uh protocol in place yeah um yeah it's really it's really uh you know that if i thought this was gonna work i'd be uh pleased i i just the you know this is just gonna lead to q anon coming up with a theory where jack dorsey from twitter is part of the conspiracy and is uh you know trying to protect the child smugglers like it's just that

that's just the way it's going to because all it takes is one photo of you with somebody who's tangentially connected to anything or one like or tweet or follower or you're following someone yeah these very tenuous connections but i guess again when again, when you're so, you know, invested in this being the reason to explain why the world is what it is, then, yeah, these people just go, you know, team into it. So just to give a case study of how like one of these theories just goes and sort of spider webs off into a million different directions. John Podesta had, webs off into a million different directions. John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, had emailed Marina Abramovich, the performance artist,

about a dinner that had some weird language in it because it was an email, and who knows why. But they used that email to suggest that she was tied into some weird satanic ritual. And then they found a example of her having a meal with Will Ferrell at one point and so them just being at the same dinner. So they then bring in the idea that will ferrell is a child eating uh baby killer and then they find a sketch that will ferrell did on the tim and eric show uh where he's like a used car salesman but he's selling child clowns just it's like absurd and creepy like all of the tim and eric stuff is and so then they claim that tim and eric are involved in this whole uh ritual satanic you know a web of conspiracy and it's just

like you can't do anything to stop that it's just just paying attention to it is going to cause it to grow. Not paying attention to it is going to cause it to grow. And I always bring up the Taiping Rebellion in response to this, the deadliest civil war ever in China. And it was all about a silly fringe religious belief where a guy thought he was Jesus's brother. And everybody laughed at it, and it ended up killing 20 million people so uh all right let's uh let's take one more break and we'll come back and talk about tucker carlson

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He just, it's sort of a desperate move, but I think he's just seeing the poll numbers move in the wrong direction so drastically that he's like, all right, I got to do something to get out there. I got to go back to the thing that was so bad the entire party begged me to stop doing. That is, the logic baffles me

because it's like you're going back into a process where eventually he gets loose with it and he starts soloing. He does his freestyle jazz and he's back to saying like, yo, do the hydroxychloroquine intravenous Lysol medicine show. Welcome. So that that began again two days ago and he stuck to the script pretty well. It seems like somebody got in his ear and was like, yo, just read the words. We'll spell them phonetically. Just read the words. Have them whisper it in my IFB, because I don't like to read.

I'll just mimic whatever they say. And he botched it by all other politician standards, but nailed it by the standards, the low, low, low, low, low bar that has been set for him as a leader. But he... Because it was riddled with more lies and dissent. Oh, yeah, totally.

Just so people know, it wasn't like he said anything. Off the rip, he called it China virus, began lying about when he closed the border. You know, he did his usual thing of things that he tries to lie about to explain why he's actually still doing a good job. He did that. And then some other just very pre-written comments. The words he's sticking to are still being written by Stephen Miller and, you know, the

racist white supremacists and ghouls in his administration. But it's not. something such as what he said when he was asked a question about accused child sex trafficker and longtime trump friend uh jis lane maxwell yeah um i'm just gonna play it for you because if you've seen you know his interviews over the past he's it's he's been having trouble like coming off like cool calm and collected uh he seems very frazzled all the time and this i mean the chris wallace one was the opposite of cool calm and collected he looked sweaty as fuck hot excited and loose uh if it's not collected okay so this is the this is just a simple question he made it through so many other questions until he's asked about uh galene maxwell um just lane maxwell is

in prison and a lot of people want to know if she's going to turn in powerful people and i know you've talked in the past about prince andrew and uh you've criticized bill clinton's behavior i'm wondering uh do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men how do you see that working out i don't know i haven't really been following it too much i just wish her well frankly wait okay so um before this he he he mariah carried jeff epstein he was like oh i don't know i don't know him i've never you know i i used to know him stop dealing with but then with galane maxwell he's like or gielaine or however we're supposed to say it now I mean that everyone that reporter said Ghislaine he did but he did not see the documentary where everyone else who had interacted with her called her Ghislaine uh that suddenly it's like oh you know

she's a you know known her for a while I guess they lived together so there was like, I'm guessing, a vague reference to Jeffrey Epstein. And then he wishes her. The whole commentary is very odd. And I think aside from just upfront saying like, yes, this accused sex trafficker, abuser, I wish them well. That is already disturbing. But then when you sort of look deeper and you know that they have a relationship and the question was asked in the context of like there could be some very powerful men that could be you know held to account based on the things gillian gillian or gielan maxwell may or may not know what's your thing and he's like yeah i wish you're the best it's like what i don't know. The whole thing is just very odd. It's unbelievable.

Is he claiming such ignorance of everything that's going on in that case that he is just going to be like, well, I didn't know. She just seemed like a very nice lady to me. I don't know because on one hand, he did admit, he was like, Jeffrey Epstein's a bad guy. He did say that. He's like, and that's why, like, 15, 20 years ago, I stopped talking to him.

I kept my distance from that man. But then when she's brought up, it's like they were together all the time. Yet you don't know him, but you know her and wish her well. and i i think you know this is just it goes to show like how dark and twisted these webs can get and also back to that q anon thing that it's the same sort of way like the sort of cycle of thoughts begin where you're like well he's known them he's in this photo what does he know he's on these flight logs there must be something there in the you And we all begin our amateur sleuthing or at least ideation around it. But yeah, I think after watching that documentary and hearing firsthand what her role is or role was in the Jeffrey Epstein stuff, I can't imagine. And the first thing you'd say was you wish them well,

even if you just take that very narrowly, regardless of what the implications are. Because some people speculate, is he trying to, you know, signal some kind of party, just keep your mouth shut. We can do work something out. Don't say something. Don't make it hot for me. I don't know.

But just in that very narrow context, it's very disturbing. Monica, have you been following this story at all, the Gehlen? I have not, no, no, but I have been following the Jeffrey Epstein case, and certainly the cases of many other powerful men involved in abuse of women. powerful men involved in abuse of women. And I mean, I listened to your discussion of this in the QAnon, is it? Yeah. Yeah, of QAnon.

And well, one, it gives me an appreciation, just an even greater appreciation for my profession because, I mean, this is the job. This is why we have professional solid journalism is to go in and take these questions and do the research, you go in and you turn to your reliable sources and data and documentation and combat this women and children um i think about this uh this cult the nexium cult um which i've been uh which i was looking into be um as part of the the podcast because one of um keith uh ranieri's business associates was the son of uh of a former Mexican president. And there was a lot of, you know, wealthy elite Mexicans who were associated with Ranieri.

And there is indeed, there was a leaked recording of the former president's son. His name is Emiliano Salinas. You know, acknowledging that his knowledge of that women were branded as part of this cult. And nothing happened to him. He wasn't ever charged or nothing happened. And I think this culture of impunity around power and wealth is is part of what is part of the problem. One of these unresolved problems that that we need to address as a as a country.

Yeah. And the comedy. Struggling to have a reckoning with, too. Like you just see even, you know, to your point of like the like the journalist uh julie brown i think she was the one who wrote the miami herald piece around jeffrey epstein like to hear all of the the roadblocks they ran into even in pursuit of the truth it makes it so much more harrowing yeah um correct yes and it used to to be I would feel very, very comfortable and very safe and backed up working as a journalist in this country, unlike my colleagues on the Mexican side who don't have that sense of security. journalists are targeted and assassinated because of their work. And I used to feel some level of confidence that I was protected from that fate being an American journalist. But in the last four years, that confidence has eroded. It's very chilling. Yeah. And that's, you know, I think the

point too, it's always meant to intimidate those who are trying to speak truth to power, at least share the information that will help people begin to think differently about what's going on. Well, speaking of chilling, Tucker Carlson has been chilling by going on vacation. So I do want to briefly talk about this because this is a story that I had like only taken a glancing look at. But our writer, J.M. McNabb, kind of did how he's involved in every aspect of the show, Blake Neff. We talked about this, I think, last week. Had anonymously written racist, sexist, and homophobic message board posts.

CNN kind of identified this anonymous poster as Tucker Carlson's um because he like had made it incredibly obvious um which isn't surprising i mean it's as jm wrote it's like finding out that a writer from seinfeld secretly posted comedic musings about the minutiae of modern life it's like yeah that's what you do for a living. That's exactly what, yeah. But, you know, he, so Tucker Carlson came on the air and was like, you know, he called Neff's actions wrong. And then immediately, like in the next sentence, started defending him. Didn't even like wait till later in the episode or till the next episode just uh started calling the people who criticized him uh ghouls uh and then that's our word for them and then he randomly announced that he was going on vacation uh which uh he said a long planned vacation which is code word for

in the Fox News world for letting things cool down because the host fucked up in a major way. I remember this happening a lot with Bill O'Reilly more recently it happened with Laura Ingram where they would say I'm going on a pre-planned

vacation starting that Tuesday. They announced it on Monday after the shit has hit the fan and then announced that they're going on a pre-planned vacation starting the next day. So just before he came back from his totally 100% real vacation, over the weekend, Fox News was hit with a lawsuit from former producer Jennifer Eckhart and frequent guest Kathy Areu, alleging that Fox cultivated and fostered sexual harassment and misconduct. Specifically, Carlson himself had propositioned Areu when she was seeking a full-time job at Fox News, mentioning to her at the Fox News Christmas party, which those words send a shiver down my spine.

Fox News has battled so tirelessly against the liberal war on Christmas, lest men not be able to celebrate Jesus's birthday by drunkenly hitting on women whose employment situation is dependent on their support. He then when she, you know, just kind of tried to avoid the conversation and, you know, turn him down as politely as possible. He ended her long run on Tucker Carlson tonight as he was coming back from his, uh, long planned original vacation, uh, he created a new controversy the location of his house in order to hurt his family. And he, yeah, it's very strange. And the New York Times was just like, he knows, first of all, we are not going to do that. The New York Times does not dox people intentionally. Second of all, he knew that heading into the episode he had

the the writers for his show had presumably reached out to fact check and they were like no what uh anyways he went live with that accusation while naming the reporter he claimed was going to dox him and his family, and that reporter was then doxed. So he actively declared war on a journalist, and that reporter's been doxed, and their life has been threatened by Tucker Carlson's fans. It's, you know, but that's reporter with was this reporter selected at random or or did this reporter have uh was there a reason why um i think they were writing something critical

of tucker carlson like there there's no shortage of things to write negative about Tucker Carlson in the past week. And so he, for some reason, latched onto some detail and claimed that it was evidence that the New York Times was going to dox him. And the New York Times was like, no, that's obviously not going to happen. What are you talking about? But anyways, so that created a nice sideshow. And then he also is like beefing with Sean Hannity because he criticized

Jeff Bezos for making more money in a single day than anyone has ever made. And he's also richer than anyone's ever been in Tucker Carlson. He like randomly will have politically valid points that he makes, but Sean Hannity was like, well, that's America, buster, when they were doing the handoff in between shows. And that, again, just created another little scandal for us to ignore the fact that this family man who stands for family values, uh,

was trying to use his position of power to, um, you know, uh, have a sexual relationship, presumably with, uh, a person who he was in no position to do that to.

Um, yeah, this is the, I mean, yeah, um, back to what we've been talking about the end i would hope for to see the at least a shift away from this like men acting with impunity because i'm here you need this from me therefore i have carte blanche to behave in any way i can it's and yeah the planned vacation thing is just really fancy speak for they're fucking up the advertising money right and that's the only way we can stop

the bleeding is to get their face like literally off the screen machismo exists everywhere oh yeah truly absolutely monica to your question on like what the exact details were of the reporter who got doxxed from the New York Times, the New York Times said, we don't release details of anything that we write in future editions of the paper. about it but i'm i'm assuming we will eventually get some sort of insight into what exactly the new york times is going to write and how uh tucker carlson responded and interpreted all that i'm i'm sure it's wildly irrational um but we'll we'll see uh since i don't think the new york times has ever maliciously doxed anyone in a story but uh i mean when would they print an address unless it was like hey there's this event going down in the city at this address like other than that i see no point that it's ever of use yeah very strange uh monica it has been such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist uh where can people find you follow you you, hear you? Yeah, thanks for having me on.

I survived the... You did. With your journalistic integrity intact. Correct, correct. Well, we'll see about that. But yes, yes, you can, well, absolutely listen, tune in to our podcast, Forgotten, the Women of Juarez. And we'll have a new episode out on July 27th.

So we're two more episodes away from the end. So we're getting to the really good stuff, the really important stuff. And you can follow me on my Twitter account, which is at M. Ortiz Uribe. me on my Twitter account, which is at M. Ortiz Uribe. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? There is a group of Latinx writers at the LA Times who are coming together and advocating for bringing more Hispanic, Latinx riders on board and be more representative of the region they cover. And I think that's pretty badass. Miles, where can people find you and follow you?

And what's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me, follow me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray and also you know the other uh podcast for 20 day fiance if you want to talk some reality nonsense about 90 day fiance uh let's see a tweet that i like is from james third james three from astronomy club uh and this it's james third at james third comedy is his handle. His tweet is, it's a quote. It says, I've noticed you'll say something sad and then you laugh. It's attributed to my therapist.

Oh, that's how we deal with things. Sometimes it is so true. Uh, first of all, shout out to everybody for, um, all the corrections on my old guard review, which was a fucking disaster.

First of all, so I said the writer was just some dude. He's actually the writer of the comic that the movie is based on. I'm an idiot. I'm the opposite of a journalist, I guess you could say. And also, most embarrassingly, I confused Kiki Lane and Kiki Palmer. Kiki Lane is the actress from If Beale Street Could Talk who was in this movie, and I kept calling her Kiki Palmer.

Before they called her Kiki's Delivery Service. Right. Shout out to Studio Ghibli. Yes, thank you guys for calling me out. A tweet I've been enjoying. Kurt Neal tweeted, I'm more of a Lin-Manuel Samantha. I loved that.

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notes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we going to ride out on today okay we're we had a track from darren's yesterday there's another track that i like because it's referencing a very specific sneaker the air max 97 and all gold and the track is called gold 97s and And I know what he's talking about. It's just off the strength of the title. I was very interested in the track. But he's just a master with these jazz samples.

There's like a really trippy flute sample that goes off and some strings. Again, more music to just have on the background, do something, change the vibe in your abode, if you will. So please enjoy that. I've been finding your music recommendations helpful background do something change the the vibe in your abode if you will so channel the vibe i've been finding your music recommendations helpful because to get hamilton out of my head for some reason i wake up every morning with a different song from hamilton stuck in my head and it's driving me mad and it's driving me mad wow. By the way, my original AK was from that Will Ferrell sketch about the devil.

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